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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 10:20:57 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 51m There is currently No Evidence to suggest that the Iranian Military is on “High Alert” or that they are moving their Ballistic Missiles to Launch Positions like some Accounts have been claiming.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 10:21:36 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1h The Conoco Gas Field and a U.S. Operations Base near the City of Deir ez-Zor in Northeastern Syria has reportedly been Attacked for the 2nd Time in the last 48 Hours; a U.S. Base at the Al-Omar Oilfield to the South is also claimed to have been Attacked tonight.
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Post by: DB on October 19, 2023, 10:24:44 pm
:bkmk:
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Post by: corbe on October 19, 2023, 10:32:12 pm
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Post by: Idiot on October 19, 2023, 10:39:36 pm
:bkmk:
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Post by: Elderberry on October 19, 2023, 10:58:17 pm
Israeli policy expert blasts Biden for handicapping Israel
WND 10/19/2023
Charges Blinken sent to blackmail Middle East democracy
A renowned commentator on Israel and Jewish affairs, Caroline Glick, has launched a warning to Israel that America, through the Joe Biden administration, is no longer a friend.
In fact, Secretary of State Antony Blinken was sent to Israel following the recent terror attacks by Hamas, which killed hundreds and hundreds of civilians, sometimes by burning families alive, other times by beheading babies, for a nefarious reason, she explains.
He was dispatched essentially to blackmail Israel into allowing "resupply" of Hamas provisions in Gaza, on the threat of America withholding military supplies needed by Israel.
Further, Joe Biden's recent visit there was staged to force a delay in Israel's response to the Hamas terror, as commanders were ordered to stand down until his trip was completed, she charges, describing Biden himself as acting as a "human shield" for Hamas.
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She issued a dire warning:
As a superpower, the United States is in a position to side with Israel and Hamas simultaneously. And that is clearly the Biden administration’s current policy. The administration’s goal, apparently, is to block Israel from winning and force it to fight to a draw—in the best-case scenario. This is perfect for Hamas, which would survive, and with its friends in the United States, the United Nations, Iran, Qatar and throughout the Arab and Western world, rebuild itself stronger than ever. For Israel, it would be a calamity of biblical proportions. Alone in the world, and treated infamously by its ostensible U.S. ally, Israel would emerge from the war with its regional position in tatters. The peace with Egypt and Jordan would likely not long survive. The Abraham Accords would be undone. And the very notion of normalization of ties with Saudi Arabia would be pushed down the memory hole. Iran would stand as the regional superpower, and within months could be expected to test a nuclear weapon. Israel’s future, in short, would be bleak."
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 11:03:01 pm
24 minutes ago Hundreds of demonstrators to rally in Time Square, demand Hamas release Israeli hostages By Patrick Reilly
Hundreds of demonstrators are expected to take over Times Square Thursday night and demand that Hamas release Israeli hostages held in Gaza.
Israeli authorities said that at least 203 hostages were being held in Gaza, the New York Times reported on Thursday.
Islamic Jihad has claimed it is holding 30 hostages.
The captives, which include women, children and Holocaust survivors, were seized when Hamas launched its unprecedented and devastating attack on Oct. 7.
More than 1,400 Israelis were killed in the attack and 4,200 others were wounded.
NYPost
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 11:04:31 pm
IDF has high confidence about 30 children, 10-20 elderly people make up Hamas hostages By Elizabeth Karpen
The Israel Defense Forces announced Thursday that out of the 203 hostages held captive by Hamas, Israel has high confidence that about 30 of them are children and 10-20 of them are elderly.
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000061809693.jpg?resize=2048,1365&quality=80&strip=all) A wall in Tel Aviv depicted the faces of those believed to be kidnapped, which includes citizens from about 40 different nations. AFP via Getty Images
The IDF informed 203 families their loved ones were taken, however, it's unclear how many living hostages are currently in Gaza.
In addition, there still are at least 100 people still considered missing.
NYPost
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 11:04:42 pm
Is it possible to move the last hour's posts from thread four here? @mystery-ak
It's easier if you just repost them here...
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 11:56:54 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 4m There have now been at least 7 Attacks on U.S. Forces in Iraq and Syria within the last 48 Hours not including the Interception of several Missiles and Drones launched from the Houthis in Yemen by a U.S. Navy Destroyer.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 12:01:17 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1h The Conoco Gas Field and a U.S. Operations Base near the City of Deir ez-Zor in Northeastern Syria has reportedly been Attacked for the 2nd Time in the last 48 Hours; a U.S. Base at the Al-Omar Oilfield to the South is also claimed to have been Attacked tonight.
**nononono* **nononono*
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Post by: libertybele on October 20, 2023, 12:34:03 am
With who? Iraq? Iran? Russia? Mexico? China? Or all of the above?
All of the above - I think we can add N. Korea to that list as well. Brandon has truly screwed things up royally; so glad at least he kept us energy independent! *****rollingeyes*****
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 12:44:53 am
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Chuck Callesto @ChuckCallesto
BREAKING REPORT: United States forces in Iraq taking on ROCKET fire..
DEVELOPING..
8:27 PM · Oct 19, 2023
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 12:58:00 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 5m U.S. Troops have been Attacked in Iraq and Syria over 7 Times in the last 48 Hours and the President of the United States just made absolutely Zero Mention of the Attacks or a Response in his Address to the Nation.
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Post by: libertybele on October 20, 2023, 01:22:46 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 5m U.S. Troops have been Attacked in Iraq and Syria over 7 Times in the last 48 Hours and the President of the United States just made absolutely Zero Mention of the Attacks or a Response in his Address to the Nation.
I truly fear for our nation. We have no one running this country who has our best interest.
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Post by: corbe on October 20, 2023, 01:35:03 am
I too feel terrible about our future prospects @libertybele but a lot of Vodka and a handful of Carters Liver Pills seem to keep the Wolfs at Bay, for me.
US officials confirm to @abc that @usnavy destroyer USS Carney shot down multiple Houthi missiles last night. They were NOT aimed at the ship, but headed in a northerly direction.
4:43 PM · Oct 19, 2023
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 02:24:07 am
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Bill Melugin @BillMelugin_
NEW: The White House admits they accidentally doxxed US Special Forces by posting an uncensored photo of them w/ Biden in Israel.
WH: “As soon as this was brought to our attention, we immediately deleted the photo. We regret the error and any issues this may have caused.”
3:58 PM · Oct 19, 2023
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Bill Melugin @BillMelugin_
This was the now deleted Instagram post from the White House, which was posted uncensored. @samosaur added the black squares in his post calling out this major OpSec blunder.
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Sam Shoemate @samosaur ·9h
The Whitehouse media team shared this picture last night (I added the black boxes) without blurring or censoring the faces of the “Delta Force” (CAG) operator’s faces. They deleted it an hour later after hundreds of thousands had already viewed it.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 02:25:49 am
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James Woods @RealJamesWoods
Under Joe Biden’s rule Americans are no longer safe anywhere in the world. And, of course, they are already unsafe in any major city at home.
Elections have consequences.
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Travel - State Dept @TravelGov ·4h
Worldwide Caution: Due to increased tensions in various locations around the world, the potential for terrorist attacks, demonstrations or violent actions against U.S. citizens and interests, the Department of State @StateDept advises U.S. citizens overseas to exercise increased caution. More at https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/worldwide-caution.html
Brandon has truly screwed things up royally; so glad at least he kept us energy independent! *****rollingeyes*****
*WORLD WAR III IS BETTER THAN ELECTING TRUMP!* (do not lose the faith my brothers) Unchecked border invasion, crazy inflation, out of control crime, Congress in chaos, billion dollar payoffs to terrorists, and on and on. If the Biden administration is on an intentional mission to destroy America, they would do nothing differently.
Those NeverTrumps who said they would rather die than elect Trump, may yet get that opportunity. Stand strong with Biden! To the Death!!
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 03:33:13 am
CBS News Updates:
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10:01 PM
President Biden and first lady speak to relatives of Muslim boy killed in alleged hate crime attack
President Biden and First lady Jill Biden on Thursday evening spoke to the relatives of the 6-year-old boy killed in an alleged hate crime attack near Chicago, Illinois, on Oct. 14.
The Bidens spoke to the uncle and father of Wadea Al-Fayoume after Mr. Biden's Oval Office address, the White House said. The boy's mother was injured in the stabbing attack, and the suspect, who allegedly targeted the pair for being Muslims, now faces a federal hate crime investigation.
"The President and First Lady expressed their deepest condolences to the Alfayoumi family as they mourn; their prayers that Wadea's mother, Hannan Shahin, makes a full recovery; and their commitment to keep speaking out against anti-Palestinian, anti-Arab, and anti-Muslim hate and violence," the White House said.
In his primetime address, Mr. Biden honored Wadea as a "proud American" from a "proud Palestinian American family."
Calling for the unequivocal denunciation of antisemitism and Islamophobia, Mr. Biden said, "All you, you're hurting. I want you to know I see you. You belong."
What would it take to remove this worthless POS from being POTUS? Along with his even bigger idiot sidekick Harris?
How many Americans will die with this fool at the helm?
Imagine four more years of Dumb and Dumber, and tell me, do you see this nation emerging out the other end in 2029? I don't!!!
I see the bad characters unifying more and more with the intent of ending the USA and its primary allies. One way or another.
The pendulum eventually swings the other way.
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Post by: jafo2010 on October 20, 2023, 05:51:12 am
The pendulum swings the other way, but NOT when a nation is led by a man that is dead from the neck up! Not sure WHO is really running the USA today, I suspect we are seeing the 3rd term of Obama, for we are certainly going out of our way for Iran, for the mussies of the world.
There will be no pendulum swung our way any time soon, and if they fix a 2nd election for Biden, four more years of Dumb and Dumber will all but destroy what remains of this nation.
I have never seen so many Americans living in total fear as I have witnessed in the last year.
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Post by: Sighlass on October 20, 2023, 07:23:46 am
:bkmk: Post 7 further reading.
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Post by: Hoodat on October 20, 2023, 08:50:15 am
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Post by: Elderberry on October 20, 2023, 12:53:45 pm
This is the drug Hamas terrorists took to help them slaughter Israelis
The Jerusalem Post By WALLA! 10/19/2023
Captagon pills were found in the pockets of Hamas terrorists.
Hamas terrorists who carried out a surprise attack on October 7 were found to be under the influence of Captagon, a synthetic amphetamine-type stimulant that has been clandestinely produced in southern Europe and trafficked through Turkey to the consumer markets on the Arabian Peninsula, as reported by Nir Dvori of Channel 12.
The pills were recovered from the pockets of many terrorists who lost their lives on Israeli soil.
This stimulant drug, also known as the "cocaine for the poor," allowed the terrorists to commit heinous acts with a sense of calmness and indifference. Simultaneously, it kept them highly alert for extended periods and suppressed their appetite. Captagon: Used by ISIS
Captagon gained notoriety in 2015 when it was discovered to be used by ISIS fighters to suppress fear prior to carrying out terrorist operations. As the influence of terrorist organizations like ISIS diminished, Lebanon and Syria took the reins and began producing and distributing the drug on a large scale.
Gaza, in particular, became a popular market for the drug, especially among addicted young individuals.
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Post by: mountaineer on October 20, 2023, 01:07:32 pm
Hamas’s newly discovered hostage-taking manual says to "kill the difficult ones" and use hostages as "human shields."
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Hamas’s Hostage-Taking Handbook Says to ‘Kill the Difficult Ones’ and Use Hostages as ‘Human Shields’ The document, which I obtained from an Israeli official, also suggests that Hamas did not plan to take hostages back to Gaza. By Graeme Wood October 19, 2023, 11:36 AM ET The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/hamas-hostage-taking-manual/675691/?taid=653152431b640e0001089568&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=true-anthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)
A hostage-taking manual that an official in the Israel Defense Forces told me was recovered in the aftermath of the Hamas attack suggests that the group’s hostage-taking on October 7 did not go according to plan. Right now, more than 200 hostages are thought to be in Hamas’s hands in Gaza. The manual suggests that the group at first intended not to spirit all of them into Gaza, but instead to take them hostage where they were found inside Israel, possibly for a protracted standoff.
The Atlantic obtained a copy of the manual from an IDF official, who vouched for its authenticity and who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the materials. Israeli President Isaac Herzog had earlier referred to the document in an interview on CNN, calling it “an instruction guide, how to go into civilian areas, into a kibbutz, a city, a moshav [agricultural co-op].” He said it described “exactly how to torture them, how to abduct them, how to kidnap them.” ...
This is why Israel should annihilate every last one of them.
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Post by: Lando Lincoln on October 20, 2023, 01:31:00 pm
This is the drug Hamas terrorists took to help them slaughter Israelis
The Jerusalem Post By WALLA! 10/19/2023
Captagon pills were found in the pockets of Hamas terrorists.
Hamas terrorists who carried out a surprise attack on October 7 were found to be under the influence of Captagon, a synthetic amphetamine-type stimulant that has been clandestinely produced in southern Europe and trafficked through Turkey to the consumer markets on the Arabian Peninsula, as reported by Nir Dvori of Channel 12.
The pills were recovered from the pockets of many terrorists who lost their lives on Israeli soil.
This stimulant drug, also known as the "cocaine for the poor," allowed the terrorists to commit heinous acts with a sense of calmness and indifference. Simultaneously, it kept them highly alert for extended periods and suppressed their appetite. Captagon: Used by ISIS
In the 80’s I had personal experience with Captagon. I was working endless hours in a small town in Trinidad. I was burned out and exhausted. The local pharmacist gave me Captagon. It was amazing but I knew I had to back off or have other problems. But, I was Superman when I took it.
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Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 20, 2023, 01:34:07 pm
The Nazis also took amphetamine for similiar affects I believe.
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Post by: Kamaji on October 20, 2023, 01:44:53 pm
The Nazis also took amphetamine for similiar affects I believe.
The U.S. military (and, presumably, other militaries) use modafinil, which has effects similar to methamphetamine, but without the rush and crash. Source: https://www.banyantreatmentcenter.com/2022/11/29/modafinil-military-use-mvir/#:~:text=Modafinil%20was%20introduced%20as%20an,like%20they%20were%20crashing%20afterward.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 02:05:37 pm
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant on Friday outlined three planned phases for the war against Hamas, detailing what will happen in Gaza if Hamas is destroyed.
The long-term plan is not for Israel to control "life in the Gaza Strip," Galland told lawmakers in a meeting in Tel Aviv.
“We are in the first phase, in which a military campaign is taking place with [airstrikes] and later with a [ground] maneuver with the purpose of destroying operatives and damaging infrastructure in order to defeat and destroy Hamas,” Gallant said, according to the Times of Israel.
The second phase of the war will be to "eliminate pockets of resistance" after Hamas is defeated.
“The third step will be the creation of a new security regime in the Gaza Strip, the removal of Israel’s responsibility for day-to-day life in the Gaza Strip, and the creation of a new security reality for the citizens of Israel and the residents of the [area surrounding Gaza],” Gallant said, according to the report.
Fox News
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 02:18:46 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 02:20:01 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 2h Israeli Artillery is currently Shelling Positions in Southern Lebanon following a reported Mortar Attack on the Mount Dov Radar Installation several minutes ago.
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Post by: libertybele on October 20, 2023, 02:20:05 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 02:37:21 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 9m Israel is evacuating Kiryat Shmona, a town of more than 20,000 people near Israel’s border with Lebanon, following repeated exchanges of fire with Hezbollah.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 02:38:03 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 50m A total of 758 civilians killed by Hamas since the start of the war have so far been identified, the Israel Police said on Friday.
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Post by: Kamaji on October 20, 2023, 02:59:47 pm
Good!
Citi fires banker over ‘revolting’ Israel remark: ‘No wonder why Hitler wanted to get rid of all of them’
By Shannon Thaler Published Oct. 19, 2023
Citibank has fired one of its staffers after she posted “revolting” commentary on Instagram that endorsed the mass murder of Jewish people during the Holocaust.
“No wonder why Hitler wanted to get rid of all of them,” Nozima Husainova wrote with a smiley-face emoji in an Instagram Story, which has since been deleted along with the 25-year-old’s Instagram and other social media accounts.
The post was a screenshot shared to X, formerly Twitter, late Wednesday by nonprofit watchdog StopAntisemitism, which also posted a photo of her Instagram profile, which boasted over 4,500 followers.
Husainova had written the explosive comment in response to a post about the Gaza hospital bombing that was initially blamed on Israel, but was later revealed to have been caused by the Islamic Jihad terror group after its operatives misfired a rocket.
The investment bank confirmed to The Post that Husainova was fired after the remark, which was earlier reported on by the Daily Mail.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 03:00:18 pm
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Disclose.tv @disclosetv
JUST IN - Biden asks Congress for an additional $61 billion to support Ukraine and $14 billion to boost Israel's military.
10:43 AM · Oct 20, 2023
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 03:18:07 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1m The Netherlands and Belgium have both urged their Citizens in Lebanon to Depart the Country as soon as possible due to the Escalating Security Situation.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 03:18:47 pm
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 03:21:01 pm
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Day 14 of the war: As the IDF prepares to enter Hamastan, Israel holds its breath Times of Israel, Oct 20, 2023
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But here, inside Israel, right now, for all our outrage and disgust at the misperception and misrepresentation of what has been playing out, we are preoccupied with the army’s imminent mission to send ground forces into Gaza to try to ensure Hamas can never harm us again.
Israelis have been evacuated from the south. They’re now being evacuated from parts of the north, as Hezbollah gradually intensifies confrontations there.
Rocket fire from Gaza is incessant — traumatizing for central Israel, which nonetheless has a little time to dash to safe rooms and bomb shelters, and the generally reliable protection of the Iron Dome defense system; potentially deadly for the south, where there is precious little time to rush to find safety. Among the few shoppers in Mahane Yehuda on Thursday, a goodly proportion were from the south, relishing the opportunity to venture out in relatively safe surroundings.
The country is quieter than I’ve ever known it. Right now, the only sound I can hear in my entire neighborhood is the tweeting of birds. Traffic-snarled Israel’s streets are emptier than they’ve been for decades. Shops are operating with skeleton staffs, closing early, not opening at all — too many staff called into the IDF. Every day brings further unwatchable documentation of the horrors Hamas perpetrated against our children, parents and grandparents. Every day brings more funerals.
Everybody here knows not only one or more of the 1,400 Israelis who were massacred or abducted by Hamas across southern Israel on and after October 7, but also one or more of the hundreds of thousands of soldiers in our standing army and our called-up reserves in an IDF about to venture into Hamastan — a hell of booby-trapped homes, underground terror tunnels, gunmen dressed as civilians and the devil knows what else.
We all know our people’s army will be doing exactly what Hamas — an Islamic extremist terrorist army sworn to destroy us — wants the IDF to do: walking, eyes-open into a trap. And we all know that Hamas was dreadfully underestimated by our political and military leadership ahead of October 7.
We hugely appreciate the solidarity and the practical support we’re getting from US President Joe Biden and his administration. His visit warmed our souls. He spoke like a grandfather who knows his family is in real trouble, conveying a personal empathy based on his own experiences of loss, and promising us: “The United States isn’t going anywhere either. We’re going to stand with you. We’ll walk beside you in those dark days, and we’ll walk beside you in the good days to come. And they will come.”
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 03:27:52 pm
CNBC Update:
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1 HOUR AGO
IDF provides update on hostages held by Hamas
The Israel Defense Forces on Friday provided an update on the approximately 200 hostages currently held by the Hamas militant group in the Gaza Strip.
The IDF said the majority of hostages are still alive. Among them are 20 children and between 10 and 20 people aged over 60, it said.
"As of today (Friday), there are 100-200 Israelis who are considered missing persons,” it added in a statement. “In comparison, on the first day of the war, there were 3000 people considered missing persons. This number has dramatically decreased as the IDF has confirmed their locations.”
The IDF also stressed the complexity of locating information about missing persons and said that it is in constant communication with the families of the hostages.
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1m The Netherlands and Belgium have both urged their Citizens in Lebanon to Depart the Country as soon as possible due to the Escalating Security Situation.
According to reports, the U.S., Canada, U.K., Germany and Saudi Arabia have also.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 03:37:04 pm
"As of today (Friday), there are 100-200 Israelis who are considered missing persons,” ... This number has dramatically decreased as the IDF has confirmed their locations.”
I can't help hoping Israel will limit the details they divulge.
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 20, 2023, 03:39:11 pm
Going to ask the question everybody is avoiding.
What happens if the Israeli Army is attacked by a WMD, chemical or biological weapon after they enter Gaza?
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 03:42:52 pm
What happens if the Israeli Army is attacked by a WMD, chemical or biological weapon after they enter Gaza?
Lots of sand turned to shiny shiny glass in certain Mid East areas? Ok, what will really happen is that Israel will be blamed and condemned.....you know, same old same old :shrug:
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Post by: Kamaji on October 20, 2023, 04:03:50 pm
Citi fires banker over ‘revolting’ Israel remark: ‘No wonder why Hitler wanted to get rid of all of them’
See also: Andy Ngô 🏳️🌈 @MrAndyNgo "Hitler should have eradicated all of you" Sarah Chowdhury, a lawyer who worked in the Illinois comptroller’s office @ILComptroller & was the president of the South Asian Bar Assoc. of Chicago @ChicagoSABA, has been removed from both positions after expressing extreme antisemitic views in support of Palestine. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1715384056316051745
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Post by: Kamaji on October 20, 2023, 04:22:01 pm
See also: Andy Ngô 🏳️🌈 @MrAndyNgo "Hitler should have eradicated all of you" Sarah Chowdhury, a lawyer who worked in the Illinois comptroller’s office @ILComptroller & was the president of the South Asian Bar Assoc. of Chicago @ChicagoSABA, has been removed from both positions after expressing extreme antisemitic views in support of Palestine. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1715384056316051745
All of these hateful people are flushing themselves out of the woodwork now. Thank God there is the will to impose consequences on them for their toxic hatred now.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 04:40:36 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 7m Israeli Forces have reportedly Targeted and Destroyed a Hezbollah Anti-Tank Site in Southern Lebanon.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 04:41:21 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 05:14:23 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 4m The 2 American Nationals, a Mother and her Daughter, who have been Released by Hamas have reportedly been turned over to the Red Cross where they will soon be Transported to Egypt from the Gaza Strip before their Trip back to Israel.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 05:17:31 pm
Per Trey... Qatar negotiated with Hamas for the release...
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 05:19:28 pm
I'm tempted to hope she tries that there in the Davis-Woodland-Winters area. She might learn quickly and painfully that most of Yolo County is very different from her UC Davis ivory tower.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 05:47:14 pm
Faytuks News Δ @Faytuks · 18m US and European governments have been putting pressure on Israel to delay its invasion of Gaza to buy time for secret talks underway via Qatar to release hostages, sources say - Bloomberg
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 05:49:40 pm
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Anthony Hughes OAN @CallMeAntwan
HAPPENING NOW: Rep. @RashidaTlaib and @CoriBush are addressing the group of protestors ONCE AGAIN, who have gathered at the National Mall.
Saying they do NOT agree with the United States' efforts to provide Israel with humanitarian aid and supplies.
"The majority of Americans don't agree with you Mr. President!"
1:18 PM · Oct 20, 2023
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 05:50:27 pm
Faytuks News Δ @Faytuks · 18m US and European governments have been putting pressure on Israel to delay its invasion of Gaza to buy time for secret talks underway via Qatar to release hostages, sources say - Bloomberg
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 05:57:44 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 7s Heavy-Gunfire as well as Artillery and Tank Shelling is continuing to be heard along the Border in Northern Israel; there are also reports of Flares and Air Defense Missiles being launched.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 06:01:00 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 06:27:31 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 12m At least 1 Israeli Soldier has been Killed and another 6 Injured following an Anti-Tank Guided Missile Attack on multiple Outposts on the Lebanese Border tonight.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 06:42:28 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 4m Judith and Nathalie Ra'anan have now arrived back in Israel and are reportedly on their way to a Military Base to meet with Family Members.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 06:47:15 pm
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Post by: Sighlass on October 20, 2023, 06:47:30 pm
Good news, thanks Myst.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 07:01:10 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 15m 2 Wounded Israeli Soldiers have been Airlifted to Rambam Hospital in Haifa with Moderate Shrapnel Injuries following Clashes with Hezbollah along the Border with Lebanon which is reported to have Killed at least 2 additional Soldiers.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 07:03:29 pm
What happens if the Israeli Army is attacked by a WMD, chemical or biological weapon after they enter Gaza?
This has been my concern since Day 1. Hamas was too well funded, trained, and coordinated, and unless Iran has gotten alot better at it there are bigger players here, which means this conflict may not be contained to Israel and the terrorists.
And that in my mind puts your scenario on the table of possibility.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 07:20:00 pm
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Post by: Sighlass on October 20, 2023, 07:39:21 pm
Multiple U.S. Defense Officials are now reporting that the Interceptions over the Red Sea almost 2 Nights Ago by the USS Carney (DDG-64) were much more Significant than had previously been stated
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15 Drones launched by the Houthis in Yemen all within a 9-Hour Period, in which the “Targets” were Detected following the Coast with Saudi Arabia in the Red Sea and were clearly Aimed at Israel.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 07:48:33 pm
Hostage negotiation expert warns not to trust Hamas' 'humanitarian' angle on hostage release: 'This was not a goodwill or good faith gesture' By Olivia Land
Viewers should be careful not to trust Hamas’ “humanitarian” angle on releasing the Raanans, former FBI agent and hostage team expert Christopher O’Leary told The Post.
“They are doing this for calculated reasons,” O’Leary insisted, noting that “Hamas does not have a humanitarian bone in their body.”
“This was not a goodwill or good faith gesture … they are playing a long game with the hostages,” he added.
“They may be doing it to build some credibility in negotiations, [because] right now they do not seem like a legitimate negotiator.
“It also could be a counternarrative to what Biden put out yesterday, going directly after Hamas and categorizing them as a terrorist organization.”
“Hamas is the quintessential terrorist organization,” O’Leary concluded.
NYPost
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Post by: mountaineer on October 20, 2023, 07:53:05 pm
Dave Rubin @RubinReport These are the guys Biden gave 100 million to yesterday…
An official document of the Palestinian Authority calls for incitement to murder Jews in the sermons that will take place in an hour (!!!) in mosques "O Abd Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him" https://twitter.com/GadiTaub1/status/1715312782848000114
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Post by: libertybele on October 20, 2023, 08:19:28 pm
Dave Rubin @RubinReport These are the guys Biden gave 100 million to yesterday…
An official document of the Palestinian Authority calls for incitement to murder Jews in the sermons that will take place in an hour (!!!) in mosques "O Abd Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him" https://twitter.com/GadiTaub1/status/1715312782848000114
Let's Go Brandon!! I'm sure Bibi enjoyed his visit with him. *****rollingeyes*****
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 08:26:04 pm
Israel war live updates: 10 Americans remain unaccounted for after Oct. 7 Hamas attack, Blinken says By Kaydi Pelletier, David Spector, Richard Pollina and Steven Nelson Updated Oct. 20, 2023, 4:10 p.m. ET
Secretary of State Antony Blinken is speaking now following the release of two American hostages by Hamas.
“There are still 10 additional Americans who remain unaccounted for in this conflict,” Blinken said in a speech Friday afternoon. “We know that some of them are being held hostage by Hamas, along with an estimated 200 other hostages held in Gaza.”
Hamas terrorists released an American mother and daughter Friday, after kidnapping the pair and an estimated 200 other hostages nearly two weeks ago.
People should be careful not to trust Hamas’ “humanitarian” angle on releasing the Judith Raanan and her teenage daughter Natalie, a former FBI agent and hostage team expert told The Post.
“They are doing this for calculated reasons,” Christopher O’Leary insisted.
“Hamas does not have a humanitarian bone in their body. … they are playing a long game with the hostages,” he said.
Most of the Israelis kidnapped by Hamas are still alive, according to multiple reports Friday sourcing Israeli Defense Forces. The IDF said more than 20 of the hostages are younger than 18, and that 10-20 of them are older than 60.
After nearly two weeks of war in Israel, at least 3,000 Palestinians and 1,400 Israelis have been killed, according to the latest reported death tolls.
NYPost
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 08:26:34 pm
Blinken: 'Very much appreciate' Qatar's assistance in hostage release By Caitlin Doornbos
Asked how the release of hostages is being secured, Blinken says: "I really can't go into any details about what we're doing or how we're doing it.
"And all I can say with regard to Qatar is, in this instance, we very much appreciate their assistance."
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 08:43:51 pm
:pondering: Those soldiers look happy to see them :whistle:
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 09:43:31 pm
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Two American hostages held by Hamas have been released and are back in Israel. The two women released, Natalie and Judith Raanan, are members of former NBC News Tel Aviv bureau chief Martin Fletcher’s family. Martin calls it “a miracle.”
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 09:46:04 pm
CNBC Update
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President Joe Biden said the first installment of U.S. humanitarian aid will arrive in Gaza in the next day or two.
“I believe you’ll see I got a commitment that the crossing will be open,” Biden told reporters at the White House, referencing the Rafah crossing.
“The highway had to be repaired,” he said, adding, “I believe in the next 24 to 48 hours you will see those first 20 trucks go in.”
— Amanda Macias
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 09:50:06 pm
CNBC Update
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5 HOURS AGO
Blinken pens letter to State Department employees acknowledging toll of Israel-Hamas conflict
Secretary of State Antony Blinken sent a letter to State Department employees acknowledging the toll the Israel-Hamas conflict has placed on the nation’s civil servants.
“I know that for many of you this time has not only been challenging professionally, but personally,” Blinken wrote in a letter obtained by NBC News.
“Some of our colleagues in the region, especially among our locally employed staff, have been directly affected by the violence, including by losing loved ones and friends,” Blinken wrote.
The letter comes the same week a State Department official resigned, citing U.S. provision of “lethal arms to Israel.”
You watch -- the DEMS will soon proclaim Brandon as 'peacekeeper'.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 09:55:04 pm
CNBC Update
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7 HOURS AGO
Yellen: Biden’s supplemental funding request ‘advances’ national interests
U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen called on the U.S. government to continue combatting global instability following Biden’s request to Congress for supplemental funding to financially support Israel and Ukraine.
“Whether the problem is Russia’s immoral invasion of Ukraine or horrendous terrorist attacks by Hamas in Israel, America’s leadership is irreplaceable,” Yellen said in a statement. She added that Biden’s request “maintains America’s global leadership and advances our core interests – including our national security.”
Yellen said the Hamas terror attacks in the Middle East “are a terrible reminder of the uncertainty we see around the globe and the challenges it raises in the global economy.”
She warned that if instability spreads across the region, “the risks we face will multiply.”
"And if we don’t lead on international economic issues, other countries will,” Yellen said. “We look to Congress, among others, to not let this happen.”
Hamas terrorists released an American mother and daughter Friday, after kidnapping the pair and an estimated 200 other hostages nearly two weeks ago.
People should be careful not to trust Hamas’ “humanitarian” angle on releasing the Judith Raanan and her teenage daughter Natalie, a former FBI agent and hostage team expert told The Post.
“They are doing this for calculated reasons,” Christopher O’Leary insisted.
They're setting the price at $50 million per hostage.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 10:15:18 pm
🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸 @mrddmia Let’s recap:
Biden funds Iran.
Iran funds Islamic terrorism against Israel.
Israel faces worst terrorist attacks imaginable.
Kidnapping, rape, torture, and murder of Israeli women, children, babies, the elderly, and the disabled.
Biden makes unnecessary Israel trip.
Obstructing Israel’s response.
Israeli security forces have to divert resources to protect him.
Instead of hunting down Islamic terrorists.
And rescuing nearly 200 hostages.
After Iran-funded Hamas terrorists killed 1,300+ Israelis and 31 Americans.
Biden gives “humanitarian assistance” to Hamas-run Gaza.
Freeing up resources for more Hamas terrorism.
And relieving pressure on Hamas to free hostages.
Biden makes America special forces divert from their mission.
For a photo op.
Biden White House posts pictures.
Exposing their secret identities.
And putting their families in grave danger.
But no mean tweets. 6:08 PM · Oct 19, 2023 · 422.6K Views
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 10:15:28 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 45m The Lebanese Army announced earlier that they have Discovered at least 25 BM-21 “Grad” Multiple-Rocket Launchers in the South of the Country which are Aimed at Israel and that EOD Teams are currently attempting Dismantle them.
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Post by: jafo2010 on October 20, 2023, 10:17:45 pm
The Biden Idiocracy is clearly insane. Providing comfort to terrorists is something Wrecking Ball Joe is highly skilled at.
Too bad he is not equally concerned about USA citizens, USA veterans, etc. Everyone but Americans with this terrorist loving traitor!!!!
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 20, 2023, 10:19:20 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 45m The Lebanese Army announced earlier that they have Discovered at least 25 BM-21 “Grad” Multiple-Rocket Launchers in the South of the Country which are Aimed at Israel and that EOD Teams are currently attempting Dismantle them.
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 45m The Lebanese Army announced earlier that they have Discovered at least 25 BM-21 “Grad” Multiple-Rocket Launchers in the South of the Country which are Aimed at Israel and that EOD Teams are currently attempting Dismantle them.
I hope this turns out to be true!
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 10:41:12 pm
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Poll: 80% of Israelis say Netanyahu must take public responsibility for Oct. 7 failures Times of Israel, Oct 20, 2023
The vast majority of Israelis believe Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu should publicly accept responsibility for the staggering failures that led to Hamas’s devastating onslaught on October 7, according to an opinion poll by the Maariv newspaper published Friday.
Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi and Shin Bet head Ronen Bar have already taken such responsibility, as have Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich.
Eighty percent of Israelis said Netanyahu, who has not made any public statements accepting responsibility, should follow suit, including 69% of those who voted for the premier’s Likud party in last year’s election, according to the survey.
Only 8% of the general public think he should not.
What a $hit situation to find oneself and family in. I can't begin to imagine, but props to him for realizing the situation and being prepared to fight his way out. This and others appear to be an oft repeated situation..."safe room" is not so safe when the home is on fire. I'll bet there will be a lot of redesigning of "safe" rooms that take fire into consideration.
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Post by: Wingnut on October 20, 2023, 10:55:58 pm
What a $hit situation to find oneself and family in. I can't begin to imagine, but props to him for realizing the situation and being prepared to fight his way out. This and others appear to be an oft repeated situation..."safe room" is not so safe when the home is on fire. I'll bet there will be a lot of redesigning of "safe" rooms that take fire into consideration.
Step one is returning arms to their people...permanetly and putting locks on their doors.
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Post by: 240B on October 20, 2023, 10:56:26 pm
Harvard and all the wealthy elite Left in America are right there with them. GO TEAM!
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 10:59:02 pm
Biden speaks with American hostages after release from Hamas custody, pledges support: WH By Mark Suleymanov
US President Joe Biden spoke to two American hostages shortly after they were released on Friday, according to the White House.
"The President just completed a call with the two Americans released today after being taken hostage by Hamas during the horrific terrorist assault against Israel," the statement said. "He relayed that they will have the full support of the U.S. government as they recover from this terrible ordeal.
A picture of a smiling Biden speaking on the phone was shared to the official POTUS account on X.
"Jill and I will continue holding close in our hearts all the families of unaccounted for Americans," the post read.
Judith Raanan and her 17-year-old daughter, Natalie, were both let go from Hamas custody in Gaza and are reportedly en route to a military base in central Israel to reunite with their family, the office of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed on X.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 11:00:19 pm
Step one is returning arms to their people...permanetly and putting locks on their doors.
It remains to be seen if the Israeli people will go "long" on this or not. Fundamentally, firearms are the great equalizer and our Founding Fathers recognized that, thus securing our right to bear arms in the Constitution. Israel should have known better, but it appears her populace "forgot" that those vermin want only to exterminate them, not live with them. One can only hope (not a plan) that the Israelis have learned their lesson. Time will tell.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 11:02:15 pm
It remains to be seen if the Israeli people will go "long" on this or not. Fundamentally, firearms are the great equalizer and our Founding Fathers recognized that, thus securing our right to bear arms in the Constitution. Israel should have known better, but it appears her populace "forgot" that those vermin want only to exterminate them, not live with them. One can only hope (not a plan) that the Israelis have learned their lesson. Time will tell.
I know just what you mean. I understand what you wrote. Amazing how many of the Israelis who were killed were avid pro-Palestinian supporters. I do not know for sure, but it is logical that they were anti-gun as well.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 11:09:02 pm
Trey Yingst @TreyYingst Qatar’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs Spokesperson Dr. Majid Al-Ansari:
“We will continue our dialogue with both the Israelis and Hamas, and we hope these efforts will lead to the release of all civilian hostages from every nationality, with the ultimate aim of de-escalating the current crisis and restoring peace.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 11:18:38 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 2h Defense Minister @YoavGallant arrived near the Gaza border on Friday night to meet with @IDF officials.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 11:31:09 pm
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2023, 11:44:26 pm
"Lets check in on Washington DC. A massive crowd of pro-Palestinian protesters (men in the front!) gathered on the National Mall in for a mass Islamic prayer today." (Video)
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 11:46:29 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 16m · Palestinians in Northern Gaza are stating that there is an “Eeriness is in the Air” tonight with some claiming that they believe the Invasion may begin very soon.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 20, 2023, 11:50:38 pm
The Spokesman for the U.S. National Security Council, John Kirby was asked tonight if the United States is attempting to “Pressure” the Israeli Government into Delaying its Ground Invasion of Gaza in order to allow Negotiations around the Release of Hostages, to which he clearly stated, “We do not Interfere in Israel’s Military Activities.”
Which means "yes".
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 12:01:13 am
US Embassy in Jerusalem releases picture of released American hostages speaking with President Biden
(https://a57.foxnews.com/livenews.foxnews.com/images/2023/10/1440/810/7adcd0eaac5f4d757fa30e35322a3192.png?tl=1&ve=1) Two freed American hostages speaking with President Biden
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 12:01:54 am
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 12:09:13 am
I knew it!!!
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 17m U.S. President Biden was asked tonight if he wishes for Israel to Delay the Invasion of Gaza in order to allow for more Hostage Negotiations, to which he Replied, “Yes.”
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Post by: libertybele on October 21, 2023, 12:14:00 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 17m U.S. President Biden was asked tonight if he wishes for Israel to Delay the Invasion of Gaza in order to allow for more Hostage Negotiations, to which he Replied, “Yes.”
So, Bibi is waiting for Joe to give him the green light? This now will probably be a complete disaster.
I also think that Joe wants to be labeled as the one who negotiated peace between Israel and Hamas.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 12:23:05 am
Joe wants to be a war time POTUS especially going into an election year..
My thought as well.
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Post by: libertybele on October 21, 2023, 12:55:25 am
She does have the advantage of being Ambassador to the UN and has foreign policy experience -- I'm hoping Joe & Co. are at least taking into account what she's saying.
Nikki Haley warns Biden to 'be smart' following Hamas' release of 2 American hostages; 'don't fall for it'
Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley reiterated her support for Israel on Friday while also cautioning the Biden administration to "be smart" regarding Qatari mediation efforts that led to the release of two American hostages — a mother and daughter — by Hamas.
The hostages, identified as Judith and Natalie Raanan, were taken by Hamas from the Nahal Oz kibbutz in southern Israel near the Gaza Strip and released "on humanitarian grounds" following Qatari intervention.
"The second thing I'll say to the Biden administration is don't fall for it. This is you know, I have dealt with Qatar in terms of trying to get hostages or actually hostage bodies out of Gaza," Haley told "America Reports" co-anchor Sandra Smith on Friday. "This is what they do. They're trying to earn favor with the United States."
At least 11 more Americans remain unaccounted for.
Haley said Hamas is worried about a potential Israeli ground operation and that "they're going to throw two hostages out there for one to see if they can weaken us to keep Israel from going into Gaza," said Haley, who was wearing a sweater with the phrase, "She Who Dares Wins."
"Who Dares Wins" is the motto of the Sayeret Matkal, an elite Israeli paratrooper unit.
"This is a time to be smart. Go in smart," Haley said. "Don't let this weaken us. Don't fall for it. We've got 200 more hostages in there. And don't forget what happened on Oct. 7. They want everybody to forget. We can never forget. Israel needs to stay focused, determined, and America needs to have their back."...............
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 01:31:29 am
WH correcting Biden's comment..
OSINTdefender reposted Apex 🎃 @Apex_WW · 1h WH Communications Director Ben LaBolt: “The president was far away. He didn't hear the full question. The question sounded like ‘Would you like to see more hostages released?’ He wasn't commenting on anything else.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 01:44:04 am
Okay.......
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 44s Total Internet Outage in Northern Gaza.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 21, 2023, 01:45:17 am
The U.S. military (and, presumably, other militaries) use modafinil, which has effects similar to methamphetamine, but without the rush and crash. Source: https://www.banyantreatmentcenter.com/2022/11/29/modafinil-military-use-mvir/#:~:text=Modafinil%20was%20introduced%20as%20an,like%20they%20were%20crashing%20afterward.
People running covert 6 man recon missions behind enemy lines would sometimes take speed to keep them alert and give them enough energy to be able to escape being killed or captured. AFAIK,we all took it out on missions with us,but I can not testify to how often it was used because it depended on the conditions right at THAT instant in time.
Nobody really liked taking it,though. Speed can multiply the effects of the stress you are already under,so people tended to ONLY take it when they were exhausted and on the run.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 01:45:20 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 27s Isreali Airstrikes just now near the Al-Shifa Medical Complex in Northern Gaza.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 21, 2023, 01:52:39 am
Lots of sand turned to shiny shiny glass in certain Mid East areas? Ok, what will really happen is that Israel will be blamed and condemned.....you know, same old same old :shrug:
Following Hamas’s release of two hostages from Gaza, the US and several governments in Europe are quietly pushing Israel to hold off on launching a ground invasion of Gaza, fearing that the incursion will all but scuttle efforts to secure additional hostage releases for the foreseeable future, a senior diplomatic official tells The Times of Israel.
The Western governments currently pressuring Israel each have citizens among those unaccounted for and believe that the more time that passes, the harder it will be to secure the hostages’ release, the official says.
The governments recognize that a ground invasion is very likely and are not telling Israel not to launch one at all, rather hold off to try and see if additional diplomatic efforts can succeed, says the senior diplomatic official.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 21, 2023, 02:09:00 am
It ain't like the Muzzies have a surplus of followers with a triple digit IQ.
This MAY be my own prejudices "speaking",but from what I have seen and heard,MOST Muzzies seem to have borderline retarded IQ's.
Inbreeding,isolation with only relatives and neighbors to talk with,and the absolute death wish of Islam wrapping it all up in a big bow means things are going to be ugly for for the Muzzie children of today who grow up to be the cannon fodder as adults.
And I don't have the first clue about how to break that chain and reverse the mindset the religious zealots force upon them.
Hell,you KNOW they have radios that not only receive music,but also international news stories,but I am GUESSING that if you were a young Muslim and started going around telling your friends to stop attacking the Jews and TRY to live with them,you would be executed. Chances are so would your parents and siblings.
Islam is about nothing but the spilled blood of the non-believers,and a social system that seems to be taken right out of a prison manual.
For everyone BUT the leadership,of course.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 21, 2023, 02:12:29 am
How else can the leadership manage to get safe passage out of Israel after the Jews start handing them their asses,if they don't have Jewish women and children to hide behind?
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Post by: GtHawk on October 21, 2023, 02:36:07 am
It ain't like the Muzzies have a surplus of followers with a triple digit IQ.
This MAY be my own prejudices "speaking",but from what I have seen and heard,MOST Muzzies seem to have borderline retarded IQ's.
Inbreeding,isolation with only relatives and neighbors to talk with,and the absolute death wish of Islam wrapping it all up in a big bow means things are going to be ugly for for the Muzzie children of today who grow up to be the cannon fodder as adults.
And I don't have the first clue about how to break that chain and reverse the mindset the religious zealots force upon them.
Hell,you KNOW they have radios that not only receive music,but also international news stories,but I am GUESSING that if you were a young Muslim and started going around telling your friends to stop attacking the Jews and TRY to live with them,you would be executed. Chances are so would your parents and siblings.
Islam is about nothing but the spilled blood of the non-believers,and a social system that seems to be taken right out of a prison manual.
For everyone BUT the leadership,of course.
Bottom line, @sneakypete, You can't learn at your mother's knee what she is forbidden to learn herself. It doesn't make for the brightest downline.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 21, 2023, 02:59:30 am
You are correct. Maybe the Sayeret Matkal liked it, too. Tier one operators and all that.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: corbe on October 21, 2023, 03:21:43 am
The Israeli Air Force has come a long way since we gave them a couple of Messerschmitt Bf 109 in '48.
The Untold Story of U.S. Pilots Who Flew for Israel in 1948
A new documentary introduces the American volunteers who founded Israel’s first Air Force.
January 2015
The most famous face in the new documentary Above and Beyond belongs to performer Paul Reubens. Seated beside his mother, he remembers his dad, Milton Rubenfeld, a stunt pilot who flew for the Royal Air Force and the U.S. Army Air Force, and then – in 1948 – for Israel’s desperate four-aircraft air force in its war against five Arab armies. “He was swaggering and macho, like Indiana Jones,” Reubens says. “He felt like it was his destiny.”
Rubenfeld and a handful of other American pilots who volunteered to fly for Israel are the subjects of producer Nancy Spielberg and director Roberta Grossman’s absorbing and crisply edited new film. They’re also its stars, which might be why the movie never bothers to identify Reubens by his more familiar stage name: Pee Wee Herman.
The story of Rubenfeld and a handful of other pilots who left home to fly barely airworthy Nazi Messerschmitt Bf 109s—“Messer-shits,” as Gideon Lichtman, who flew some 30 IAF missions, quips—in early engagements against Egyptian and Iraqi forces is so compelling it’s a wonder it hasn’t inspired a movie before now. Lichtman and his compatriots are old men; two of the IAF volunteers interviewed, George Lichter and Colemen Goldstein, have died in the interval since it was shot. But they were young and rakish in the years after World War II, and that braggadocio is part of what makes the documentary so fun to watch, despite its somber subject. (The war is covered only from the Israeli side, incidentally.) Lichtman reveals that he would have died in a mysterious crash that claimed the life of Canadian fighter ace “Buzz” Beurling in Rome—where pilots in transit to Israel spent a lot of their time—had he not canceled plans to join Beurling that day on account of having brought a lady home with him the prior evening.
I never had the honor of being attached to the SAS,but I did know a couple of people whose word I absolutely trust that spent a tour with them,and they told me these guys were a good as good gets.
Providing,of course,that their political masters allow them to operate like they want,which is THE chief problem with every Special Operations unit on the planet. The damn politicians just can NOT resist sticking their noses in where they don't belong.
You want your Special Operations teams to operate at maximum efficiency and "produce the goods",you tell them what you want/need them to do,and then get the HELL out of their way and let them take over every aspect of the mission. Yeah,the team WILL be required to brief you on their plans once there is a target date,and the senior officers that lead the various units need to have a briefing and compare notes as to what can be done by them and what can't be done by them,but that is just SOP.
ANY officer that sticks his nose in where it doesn't belong and screws things up will end up in forced retirement if he has the time in to retire,or just out of uniform and on the loose if he doesn't.
After all,what is the purpose of having "pros on call" if you don't listen to them?
Not that this is a real problem. It isn't. ANY officer who isn't wearing stars on his collars understands he goes in for a mission briefing,is allowed to voice his concerns if he has any,and then he STFU. The unit commander either gives the go-ahead of he calls the mission off.
BTW,there has to be something seriously wrong with the mission if it is called off after the training and briefing.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: sneakypete on October 21, 2023, 03:45:35 am
The Israeli Air Force has come a long way since we gave them a couple of Messerschmitt Bf 109 in '48.
The Untold Story of U.S. Pilots Who Flew for Israel in 1948
A new documentary introduces the American volunteers who founded Israel’s first Air Force.
January 2015
The most famous face in the new documentary Above and Beyond belongs to performer Paul Reubens. Seated beside his mother, he remembers his dad, Milton Rubenfeld, a stunt pilot who flew for the Royal Air Force and the U.S. Army Air Force, and then – in 1948 – for Israel’s desperate four-aircraft air force in its war against five Arab armies. “He was swaggering and macho, like Indiana Jones,” Reubens says. “He felt like it was his destiny.”
I never had the honor of being attached to the SAS,but I did know a couple of people whose word I absolutely trust that spent a tour with them,and they told me these guys were a good as good gets.
Providing,of course,that their political masters allow them to operate like they want,which is THE chief problem with every Special Operations unit on the planet. The damn politicians just can NOT resist sticking their noses in where they don't belong.
You want your Special Operations teams to operate at maximum efficiency and "produce the goods",you tell them what you want/need them to do,and then get the HELL out of their way and let them take over every aspect of the mission. Yeah,the team WILL be required to brief you on their plans once there is a target date,and the senior officers that lead the various units need to have a briefing and compare notes as to what can be done by them and what can't be done by them,but that is just SOP.
ANY officer that sticks his nose in where it doesn't belong and screws things up will end up in forced retirement if he has the time in to retire,or just out of uniform and on the loose if he doesn't.
After all,what is the purpose of having "pros on call" if you don't listen to them?
Not that this is a real problem. It isn't. ANY officer who isn't wearing stars on his collars understands he goes in for a mission briefing,is allowed to voice his concerns if he has any,and then he STFU. The unit commander either gives the go-ahead of he calls the mission off.
BTW,there has to be something seriously wrong with the mission if it is called off after the training and briefing.
You call the Fire Department, get the best, and you don't tell them how to put out the fire. Just get out of the way.
One of the original SEAL Team 6 was a lifelong friend, and I did meet and talk with a former SAS guy over in Montana (I won't say where).
Interesting that the former was known in the community, had been the local Fire Chief twice (same department I was in, we were both in back when I was a fireman, he just went back there when he got out of the Navy on a full medical and I stayed out west doing geology. Any time I was back there for a visit, it was like I had just walked out of the room and walked back in, even though years went by in between.). The latter was known in his town, too, not that it was belabored. The locals got a kick out of watching him on rare occasion take down some fool guy who started something-- head and shoulders taller, and likely time and a half his weight, in all of about two seconds...and then buy the guy he'd just put down a beer. Word got out. Respect is respect, but I could see by the way the guy moved and assessed the room that he could handle whatever. We got along well, too, 'cause the oil patch is all about getting it done, making it work, and doing the job right, just a different line of work.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Sighlass on October 21, 2023, 05:04:29 am
:bkmk:
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: jafo2010 on October 21, 2023, 05:53:30 am
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mystery-ak ...I want to know how they got here
First off, I have said this multiple times. The USA has been bringing mostly mussies via the Diversified Visa Program(Greencard Lottery) since before 9/11.
One can check every year individually to see how many from what country. Iran usually leads the list of Greencard recipients. Each recipient brings their entire family. So figure at least 80% of roughly 250,000 each year come as Greencard recipients. That does not include the extended family members that come after they have established citizenship here in the USA.
And then there are the refugees that are brought in. Obama settled a rather large number of Somalis in one location in Minnesota, and thanks to that planning, we now have Ilhan Omar as a member of Congress. And if what I heard is true, she came here illegally, and should have been deported long before she ever became a citizen.
Last but not least, Biden announced the doors are wide open after taking office, and we have millions flooding into the USA each year ILLEGALLY!!!!!!!
All this sh*t is happening because the people you elect to Congress, and I include all of them, they are NOT doing their job. How many decades have we waited for these do nothings to enact legislation in regard to immigration and the illegal invasion into the USA.
Far as I am concerned, every illegal alien should be deported immediately. No courts for processing, just arrest them and deport them. I am so sick and tired of hearing about not enough judges. Screw that bullsh*t.
Someone wants to enter the USA as a refugee, they do it ONLY VIA THE EMBASSY in their country. Nothing done here. Close the border. Period. End this crap of all these people being scheduled to appear before a judge here. Total nonsense!
But this will not end or have a chance of ending until we have TERM LIMITS. Until we begin swapping out more of these Washington turds for life, nothing of consequence changes.
These dead heads in Congress, by NOT doing their job, are destroying the USA.
T E R M L I M I T S ! N O W!
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 12:35:26 pm
This is the drug Hamas terrorists took to help them slaughter Israelis
The Jerusalem Post By WALLA! 10/19/2023
Captagon pills were found in the pockets of Hamas terrorists.
Hamas terrorists who carried out a surprise attack on October 7 were found to be under the influence of Captagon, a synthetic amphetamine-type stimulant that has been clandestinely produced in southern Europe and trafficked through Turkey to the consumer markets on the Arabian Peninsula, as reported by Nir Dvori of Channel 12.
The pills were recovered from the pockets of many terrorists who lost their lives on Israeli soil.
This stimulant drug, also known as the "cocaine for the poor," allowed the terrorists to commit heinous acts with a sense of calmness and indifference. Simultaneously, it kept them highly alert for extended periods and suppressed their appetite. Captagon: Used by ISIS
Captagon gained notoriety in 2015 when it was discovered to be used by ISIS fighters to suppress fear prior to carrying out terrorist operations. As the influence of terrorist organizations like ISIS diminished, Lebanon and Syria took the reins and began producing and distributing the drug on a large scale.
Gaza, in particular, became a popular market for the drug, especially among addicted young individuals.
Is it possible for Israel to use this as a rallying cry for global unity against Hamas for supplying the drug, its leadership in particular --- a global jihad to kill them all? Could this have the potential to unify governments with Israel, including Arab? Killing the drug manufacturers and traffickers would be an added plus.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 01:17:32 pm
Nikki Haley warns Biden not to ‘fall for it’ after Hamas released hostages: ‘This is a time to be smart’
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 01:32:30 pm
Aid trucks enter Gaza after Rafah border crossing opens By Alexandria Sillo
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000062175077.jpg?resize=2048,1365&quality=80&strip=all) In this aerial view, a convoy of lorries carrying humanitarian aid enter the Gaza Strip from Egypt via the Rafah border crossing on October 21, 2023.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 01:32:55 pm
Palestinian death toll in Gaza rises to 4,385: Hamas-controlled ministry By Olivia Land
At least 4,385 people have been killed in the Gaza Strip since the start of the Israel-Hamas war two weeks ago, the Hamas-controlled health ministry said, according to the Times of Israel.
About 1,756 of the casualties are children, the ministry added.
The numbers do not differentiate between civilians and Hamas terrorists, the Times of Israel noted.
Israeli officials claim to have killed 1,500 terrorists since the conflict started on Oct. 7.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 01:33:35 pm
US, several European countries pressuring Israel to delay Gaza ground invasion: report By Richard Pollina
Following the release of the two American hostages held by Hamas terrorists, the US and several European countries have been quietly pressuring Israel to stall its looming ground invasion of the Gaza Strip — fearing other hostages will not be released, a senior diplomatic official told The Times of Israel.
The outlet reports that the governments are hoping more hostages can be rescued through diplomatic means before troops move into the enclave.
Israel has stood committed to their offensive to destroy Hamas’ military and territorial capabilities in Gaza since they massacred countless civilians around villages near the Gaza border earlier this month.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 01:34:08 pm
White House says Biden did not hear question about Israel delaying ground invasion of Gaza By Reuters
WASHINGTON – US President Joe Biden did not hear a question from a reporter who asked whether Israel should delay a potential ground invasion of Gaza until more hostages can get out, when he answered, “yes,” the White House said.
“The president was far away. He didn’t hear the full question. The question sounded like ‘Would you like to see more hostages released?’ He wasn’t commenting on anything else,” White House spokesperson Ben LaBolt said.
Biden was walking up the steps to board Air Force One when a reporter shouted the question over the sound of the plane’s engines. Biden stopped for a moment and said, “yes,” and then proceeded onto the plane
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 01:35:15 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 02:20:58 pm
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/391570604_6985820828121623_3001949483205747867_n.jpg?quality=80&strip=all) Judith and Natalie Raanan reunite with their loved ones.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 02:23:36 pm
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Jack Poso @JackPosobiec
Russia orders Air Force to load hypersonics
Houthis firing long-range missiles at Israel
US bases hit with drone attacks in Iraq and Syria
Iranian-backed militias across the Middle East mobilizing
Biden is marching us into Gallipoli
9:24 AM · Oct 21, 2023
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Jack Poso @JackPosobiec
Don't worry - I'm sure the current US military is completely ready for 2 global conflicts simultaneously. Right?
9:33 AM · Oct 21, 2023
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: catfish1957 on October 21, 2023, 02:25:26 pm
<bkmrk>
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: catfish1957 on October 21, 2023, 02:30:30 pm
From my perspective, that means there are a 100K terrorist openly and provocatively espouting their call to world war in England. yes, England my ancestral home.
My solution to this matter wouldn't be allowed for discussion, per posting guidelines.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Bigun on October 21, 2023, 02:34:40 pm
I never had the honor of being attached to the SAS,but I did know a couple of people whose word I absolutely trust that spent a tour with them,and they told me these guys were a good as good gets.
Providing,of course,that their political masters allow them to operate like they want,which is THE chief problem with every Special Operations unit on the planet. The damn politicians just can NOT resist sticking their noses in where they don't belong.
You want your Special Operations teams to operate at maximum efficiency and "produce the goods",you tell them what you want/need them to do,and then get the HELL out of their way and let them take over every aspect of the mission. Yeah,the team WILL be required to brief you on their plans once there is a target date,and the senior officers that lead the various units need to have a briefing and compare notes as to what can be done by them and what can't be done by them,but that is just SOP.
ANY officer that sticks his nose in where it doesn't belong and screws things up will end up in forced retirement if he has the time in to retire,or just out of uniform and on the loose if he doesn't.
After all,what is the purpose of having "pros on call" if you don't listen to them?
Not that this is a real problem. It isn't. ANY officer who isn't wearing stars on his collars understands he goes in for a mission briefing,is allowed to voice his concerns if he has any,and then he STFU. The unit commander either gives the go-ahead of he calls the mission off.
BTW,there has to be something seriously wrong with the mission if it is called off after the training and briefing.
Pick any six-month period after second quarter 1965 through third quarter 1970 and the Vietnam war would have been over with a clear victory for our side IF we could just have gotten the REMFs out of the way! @sneakypete@Smokin Joe
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: libertybele on October 21, 2023, 02:38:29 pm
From my perspective, that means there are a 100K terrorist openly and provocatively espouting their call to world war in England. yes, England my ancestral home.
My solution to this matter wouldn't be allowed for discussion, per posting guidelines.
I would lay odds that there are that many already here in the US, if not more.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Hoodat on October 21, 2023, 02:39:53 pm
Judith and Natalie Raanan reunite with their loved ones.
Has anyone briefed them yet to collect any intel they may have? Other hostages they have have been with? Locations? Leadership fractures among those who held them? Is there anyone competent in our government who is focused on rescuing other Americans held in Gaza?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Hoodat on October 21, 2023, 02:46:43 pm
I never had the honor of being attached to the SAS,but I did know a couple of people whose word I absolutely trust that spent a tour with them,and they told me these guys were a good as good gets.
Providing,of course,that their political masters allow them to operate like they want,which is THE chief problem with every Special Operations unit on the planet. The damn politicians just can NOT resist sticking their noses in where they don't belong.
You want your Special Operations teams to operate at maximum efficiency and "produce the goods",you tell them what you want/need them to do,and then get the HELL out of their way and let them take over every aspect of the mission.
This is what happens when politicians stick their noses in and try to micromanage your operations:
April, 1980 - Operation Eagle Claw. Eight Americans dead.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 02:54:44 pm
"Primary war zone"?
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender
Israeli Defense Officials have stated they are expecting a Massive Escalation of Rocket Attacks from Hezbollah in Southern Lebanon over the next Week and that they are preparing for the Deployment of additional Forces to the North with Lebanon possibly soon becoming the “Primary War Zone.”
White House says Biden did not hear question about Israel delaying ground invasion of Gaza By Reuters
WASHINGTON – US President Joe Biden did not hear a question from a reporter who asked whether Israel should delay a potential ground invasion of Gaza until more hostages can get out, when he answered, “yes,” the White House said.
“The president was far away. He didn’t hear the full question. The question sounded like ‘Would you like to see more hostages released?’ He wasn’t commenting on anything else,” White House spokesperson Ben LaBolt said.
Biden was walking up the steps to board Air Force One when a reporter shouted the question over the sound of the plane’s engines. Biden stopped for a moment and said, “yes,” and then proceeded onto the plane
We are so screwed. There is no one running the asylum.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 03:06:27 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender
Israeli Artillery has Opened-Fire on Southern Lebanon following an Attack by an Anti-Tank Guided Missile on the Town of Bar'am.
10:40 AM · Oct 21, 2023
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 03:08:23 pm
Of course there is. (https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/180227135934-obama.jpg?q=x_716,y_471,h_823,w_1463,c_crop/h_720,w_1280)
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 03:14:25 pm
5 minutes ago Hamas will not discuss fate of Israeli army captives until end of ‘aggression’ on Gaza By Olivia Land
Hamas will not discuss the fate of its Israeli military captives until Israel ends its “aggression” on the Gaza Strip, the group announced Saturday.
"Our stance with regards to Israeli army captives is clear: it's related to a (possible) exchange of prisoners, and we will not discuss it until Israel ends its aggression on Gaza and Palestinians," Hamas official Osama Hamdan told a televised press conference from Lebanon.
With Post wires
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: catfish1957 on October 21, 2023, 03:15:11 pm
Poland does not play patty-cake with murderous bloodthirsty Muslims. America, Sweden, England, the EU all LOVE the rapist criminal Islamists. Poland does not play that game. These people will all be dealt with.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 03:31:31 pm
Biden in Rehoboth Beach this weekend after high-stakes week responding to Israel crisis Oct. 20, 2023
Rehoboth Beach's favorite son, President Joe Biden, will be back in town Friday night.
He and wife Jill Biden will depart the Washington area around 7:30 p.m. and arrive at Dover Air Force Base around 8:15 p.m., according to the White House press office. They're scheduled to arrive in Rehoboth 20 minutes later, so presumably, they'll take the Marine One helicopter.
Biden has had a busy and high-pressure week, traveling to Israel to meet with victims of the Hamas terrorist attacks, addressing the nation from the Oval Office and asking Congress for over $100 billion to support Israel, Ukraine and other "key national security priorities."
From my perspective, that means there are a 100K terrorist openly and provocatively espouting their call to world war in England. yes, England my ancestral home.
My solution to this matter wouldn't be allowed for discussion, per posting guidelines.
This is one of my biggest fears, and they have been exported all over the world. Who knows how many are here and willing to spawn chaos, anarchy, and terrorism, with BLM and Antifa's help of course.
Add to that Rat unwillingness to prosecute or stop crime and watching US cities burn isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Free Vulcan on October 21, 2023, 03:49:21 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 04:11:24 pm
Sen. Marsha Blackburn @MarshaBlackburn · 16m The best way the USA can provide humanitarian aid to the Palestinian people is by eradicating Hamas terrorists.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Hoodat on October 21, 2023, 04:13:44 pm
Yael Bar tur @yaelbt This is Shlomo Ron. When Hamas terrorists invaded his home in Kibbutz Nahal Oz, this 85-year-old frail man had a plan.
He left his wife, daughters and grandson in the shelter, and went to sit in his living room, waiting for his death. He figured that when terrorists break in they will see him, execute the lonely old man, and move on. He was right.
He’s a hero who sacrificed himself for the people he loves. May be rest in peace.
Wow.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 04:19:31 pm
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Multiple Fires are burning on the Border with Lebanon as Israeli Force have launched Incendiary Shells towards Hezbollah Positions in Southern Lebanon.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 04:20:24 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 8s Hezbollah is claiming to have Targeted a IDF Humvee and a Merkava Mark lV Main Battle Tank using Anti-Tank Guided Missiles on the Border with Lebanon today.
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 3m A Israeli Soldier has been Airlifted to Rambam Health Care Campus in the Northern City of Haifa after suffering Serious Injuries from an Anti-Tank Guided Missile launched by Hezbollah on the Border with Lebanon.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: GtHawk on October 21, 2023, 04:20:39 pm
From my perspective, that means there are a 100K terrorist openly and provocatively espouting their call to world war in England. yes, England my ancestral home.
My solution to this matter wouldn't be allowed for discussion, per posting guidelines.
Pack em all up, whether England, USA, wherever, when they start waving terrorist flags and calling for terrorist acts and drop them in their displayed preference of country so that they can fight for them. In this case drop all their moslem @sses in Gaza.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 04:20:49 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 04:24:10 pm
Wish there was video
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 52m A Hamas Terrorist on a Motorcycle near the City of Khan Yunis tried to cross the Border from the Gaza Strip into Southern Israeli earlier and was Liquidated by the Air Force.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 04:26:12 pm
Biden in Rehoboth Beach this weekend after high-stakes week responding to Israel crisis Oct. 20, 2023
Rehoboth Beach's favorite son, President Joe Biden, will be back in town Friday night.
He and wife Jill Biden will depart the Washington area around 7:30 p.m. and arrive at Dover Air Force Base around 8:15 p.m., according to the White House press office. They're scheduled to arrive in Rehoboth 20 minutes later, so presumably, they'll take the Marine One helicopter.
Biden has had a busy and high-pressure week, traveling to Israel to meet with victims of the Hamas terrorist attacks, addressing the nation from the Oval Office and asking Congress for over $100 billion to support Israel, Ukraine and other "key national security priorities."
Exactly. Biden is 'on vacation' from life. He's gone, man. It makes no difference to anything if he is so-called 'at work' or not. He has no power. He makes no decisions. If they installed a stuffed Biden mannequin to sit behind the desk, nobody would notice unless they need something signed.
Then they will drag him out of the basement to pretend he is President for a few minutes.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 05:19:10 pm
KJP is sweating like a hooker in church, and John Kirby's eyes are about to pop out of his head, as they watch Biden try to answer a "surprise" question 🤣😭
KJP is sweating like a hooker in church, and John Kirby's eyes are about to pop out of his head, as they watch Biden try to answer a "surprise" question 🤣😭
He's absolutely pitiful. We need a leader, not a clown pumped up full of drugs who can't even navigate a press conference.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Free Vulcan on October 21, 2023, 05:51:34 pm
Don't worry folks, being our FedGov has been taken over by a coup, and the former President now Figurehead-In-Chief has been deposed, things are in...um...good hands by the FedGov Committee of Bureaucracy, secretly led by Obama I assume or China, or Iran, or whoever.
Go back to sleep, back to sleeeeep.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: libertybele on October 21, 2023, 05:52:43 pm
Don't worry folks, being our FedGov has been taken over by a coup, and the former President now Figurehead-In-Chief has been deposed, things are in...um...good hands by the FedGov Committee of Bureaucracy, secretly led by Obama I assume or China, or Iran, or whoever.
Go back to sleep, back to sleeeeep.
No doubt in my mind that O'Bammy has been running things. We are stretched thin militarily, economically (billions in aid to Ukraine along with munitions and now Israel), and have depleted our oil reserves -- there is no way we can sustain at the current scenario we find ourselves in.
I believe the plan is for the US to have to defend itself on several fronts -- Middle East, China/Taiwan, N. Korea and also an attack from within because our borders have been open for decades. We are prime for a takeover, and again, though it has been disputed in here; the UN will step in with troops to assist in taking our country down.
I pray that I am wrong...
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Post by: Free Vulcan on October 21, 2023, 06:18:15 pm
No doubt in my mind that O'Bammy has been running things. We are stretched thin militarily, economically (billions in aid to Ukraine along with munitions and now Israel), I pray that I am wrong...
Me too, but so far it seems to be playing out to the scenario you laid out. I believe things are in motion on a larger scale, you can't quite see it but sure can feel it.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 06:21:35 pm
Secretary of State Antony Blinken welcomes aid to Palestinians but says more is needed
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Saturday welcomed the first delivery of humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip since the Israel-Hamas war started on October 7.
“With this convoy, the international community is beginning to address the humanitarian crisis in Gaza that has left residents of Gaza without access to sufficient food, water, medical care, and safe shelter,” Blinken said in a statement.
“We urge all parties to keep the Rafah crossing open to enable the continued movement of aid that is imperative to the welfare of the people of Gaza” he added, emphasizing that Hamas "must not interfere with the provision of this life-saving assistance."
Blinken said the U.S, was still working with Israel and Egypt to arrange for dual U.S. citizens to be able to leave Gaza via the Rafah crossing. Many Palestinians with foreign passports are gathered at the crossing, but have not yet been allowed to cross.
The Associated Press contributed to this update. Posted by Chris Pandolfo
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 06:25:42 pm
74 percent of civilians killed Oct. 7 have been identified: police By Olivia Land
Israeli police have identified 74 percent of the civilians killed in Hamas’ Oct. 7 invasion of southern Israel, the Times of Israel reported.
The bodies of 1,033 people have been found, of which 765 are identified, the outlet explained.
Of the identified victims, 668 have been transferred to families for burial.
“The 765 victims represent 74% of civilians (non-soldiers) killed in the fighting whose bodies have been brought for identification,” the police said in a formal statement.
“Thousands of police have been working shifts 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and are taking part in the tough work of identification,” they added.
Some of the bodies are burned or otherwise so badly wounded that the identification process is extremely challenging, the Times of Israel said.
Around 300 soldiers killed in the ensuing war have also been identified by the IDF, the outlet reported.
The total death toll is said to be around 1,400.
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Post by: 240B on October 21, 2023, 06:27:16 pm
(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a4ogLVw_460s.jpg) Subhuman. Worse than animals.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 06:27:28 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 06:27:54 pm
West Bank death toll hits 84: health officials By Olivia Land
Eighty-four Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank by “Israeli occupation forces” the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Ramallah reported Saturday, per CNN.
At least 1,400 people have been injured, the officials added.
Unlike in Gaza, The Palestinian Health Ministry in the West Bank is not controlled by Hamas, as the terror group does not have a stronghold in the area.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 06:28:38 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 25m A Drone Attack is being reported against Al-Harir Air Base in the Erbil Region of Northwestern Iraq which Houses a number of U.S. Troops; this is likely the Second Attack on U.S. Forces in Iraq today by the “Islamic Resistance of Iraq.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 06:29:04 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 07:13:21 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 5m Hamas is claiming that it tried to Release another 2 Hostages from the Gaza Strip recently, but that the Israeli Government had Refused to receive them.
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 4m There is Zero Evidence of this, but I have a feeling if it is at all True it’s because the Conditions given by Hamas for their Release were Bullshit.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 07:14:04 pm
In the same light, then why would the United States of America?
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 07:51:30 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 23m Palestinians in the Gaza Strip have stated that the “Earth feels as though it is Shaking” with how Intense the Airstrikes have been over the last Hour.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 07:52:02 pm
:thud:
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 33m According to Egyptian Sources, the roughly 20 Humanitarian Aid Trucks which entered the Gaza Strip from the Rafa Border Crossing in Egypt earlier today were not Inspected for Weapons by Egyptian Security Forces like had been Agreed upon during Negotiations with Israel.
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Post by: Hoodat on October 21, 2023, 07:53:18 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 33m According to Egyptian Sources, the roughly 20 Humanitarian Aid Trucks which entered the Gaza Strip from the Rafa Border Crossing in Egypt earlier today were not Inspected for Weapons by Egyptian Security Forces like had been Agreed upon during Negotiations with Israel.
Of course not.
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Post by: libertybele on October 21, 2023, 07:54:30 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 08:01:14 pm
Israel will increase attacks on Gaza: Military
A spokesperson for Israel's military says it will increase attacks on the Gaza Strip beginning Saturday to prepare for the next stage of the war with Hamas.
Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari told reporters that its trying to create optimal conditions for a possible ground invasion
“We will deepen our attacks to minimize the dangers to our forces in the next stages of the war. We are going to increase the attacks, from today,” Hagari said.
Hagari also repeated calls for Gaza City residents to move south for their safety.
The Associated Press contributed to this report. Posted by Adam Sabes
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 08:02:52 pm
Qatari official 'optimistic' all hostages being held by Hamas will be freed soon By Brett Gubitosi
A senior Qatari official claimed he is "optimistic" that all hostages being held by the Hamas terrorist organized will be freed, according to the Times of Israel.
“The release took place within a framework that confirms the positive intention to release the hostages,” Majed Al-Ansari told the German newspaper Die Welt. “We are optimistic that the hostages, especially the civilians, will be released very soon.”
His statement comes after the release of two American hostages, Judith and Natalie Raanan.
Additionally, Hamas allegedly offered to release two more hostages for "humanitarian reasons" to Israel, but the nation declined to receive them.
With Post wires
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Post by: libertybele on October 21, 2023, 08:09:50 pm
A spokesperson for Israel's military says it will increase attacks on the Gaza Strip beginning Saturday to prepare for the next stage of the war with Hamas.
Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari told reporters that its trying to create optimal conditions for a possible ground invasion
“We will deepen our attacks to minimize the dangers to our forces in the next stages of the war. We are going to increase the attacks, from today,” Hagari said.
Hagari also repeated calls for Gaza City residents to move south for their safety.
The Associated Press contributed to this report. Posted by Adam Sabes
...hmm.... just go ahead and attack....announcements at this point I don't think are helpful. :shrug:
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Post by: PeteS in CA on October 21, 2023, 08:17:31 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 23m Palestinians in the Gaza Strip have stated that the “Earth feels as though it is Shaking” with how Intense the Airstrikes have been over the last Hour.
They aren't enjoying their Stupid Prize?
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Post by: sneakypete on October 21, 2023, 08:34:18 pm
Sen. Marsha Blackburn @MarshaBlackburn · 16m The best way the USA can provide humanitarian aid to the Palestinian people is by eradicating Hamas terrorists.
I disagree. This problem will NEVER go away until the Palestinians decide to take out their own trash.
We ain't their daddy,and we didn't take them to raise,so IF we are forced to go to war against Hammas,Palestinians are just going to have to suck it up when it comes to innocent Palestinians getting killed.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 21, 2023, 08:39:18 pm
I disagree. This problem will NEVER go away until the Palestinians decide to take out their own trash.
We ain't their daddy,and we didn't take them to raise,so IF we are forced to go to war against Hammas,Palestinians are just going to have to suck it up when it comes to innocent Palestinians getting killed.
We may not be their daddy, but there are plenty of them already here that presents a problem @sneakypete
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Post by: sneakypete on October 21, 2023, 08:41:46 pm
There is a LOT of doubt in my mind about that. Obomber IS smarter than Slow Joe,but what living creature isn't?
ALL Obomber is,is a figurehead with a political background who is getting paid to be the front man for an organization of globalist financiers.
I am not so sure about that -- O'Bammy vowed to transform America and did plenty of damage; Hillary was supposed to complete his plans, but obviously fell short on getting votes. Remember his silent army?? His small arms trade deal with the UN? His plans for UN hubs in DC --- he's far from done. Just my opinion @sneakypete
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 08:57:23 pm
I am not so sure about that -- O'Bammy vowed to transform America and did plenty of damage; Hillary was supposed to complete his plans, but obviously fell short on getting votes. Remember his silent army?? His small arms trade deal with the UN? His plans for UN hubs in DC --- he's far from done. Just my opinion @sneakypete
If it were just "economic" destruction...which is serious enough, but everything that's happening with either our complicity or authorization is a direct threat to our security as a Republic.
And not a bleeping "peep" from the GOP. Not worth spit as an opposition. Totally understand not controlling the megaphone, but geeeezzz, Louise.
Nope... this literally SCREAMS
"I HATE YOU F*'N WHITE COLONIALIST MF-ERS AND WITH ALLAH"S HELP WE WILL BURN YOU!" That's Barry all the way!
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 21, 2023, 09:00:52 pm
No doubt in my mind that O'Bammy has been running things. We are stretched thin militarily, economically (billions in aid to Ukraine along with munitions and now Israel), and have depleted our oil reserves -- there is no way we can sustain at the current scenario we find ourselves in.
I believe the plan is for the US to have to defend itself on several fronts -- Middle East, China/Taiwan, N. Korea and also an attack from within because our borders have been open for decades. We are prime for a takeover, and again, though it has been disputed in here; the UN will step in with troops to assist in taking our country down.
I pray that I am wrong...
Blue helmets make as good a target as do-rags.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 09:01:16 pm
Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 19m UPDATE: The death toll in Gaza now sits at 4,469 people, according to the Palestinian health ministry.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 09:01:28 pm
:pondering: News that would lower the crews morale, eh? Must be getting ready to tell the crew they won't be attacking Hamas and Hezbollah afterall :crying:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 10:26:48 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 10:27:23 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 53m U.S. President Biden was asked today yet again if he wishes for the Israeli Government to Delay the Invasion of the Gaza Strip in order to allow for Hostage Negotiations to continue, to which he Replied, “I will talk to the Israelis regarding the matter.”
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Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 21, 2023, 10:43:21 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 53m U.S. President Biden was asked today yet again if he wishes for the Israeli Government to Delay the Invasion of the Gaza Strip in order to allow for Hostage Negotiations to continue, to which he Replied, “I will talk to the Israelis regarding the matter.”
You can expect to get a more coherent and accurate answer from a Magic 8 Ball or Ouija Board.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 10:46:05 pm
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Biden and Aides Advise Israel to Avoid Widening War With Hezbollah Strike NY Times, Oct 20, 2023
President Biden and his top aides have been urging Israeli leaders against carrying out any major strike against Hezbollah, the powerful militia in Lebanon, that could draw it into the Israel-Hamas war, American and Israeli officials say.
The U.S. officials are concerned that some of the more hawkish members of Israel’s war cabinet have wanted to take on Hezbollah even as Israel begins a long conflict against Hamas after the Oct. 7 attacks. The Americans are conveying to the Israelis the difficulties of battling both Hamas in the south and a much more powerful Hezbollah force in the north.
U.S. officials believe Israel would struggle in a two-front war and that such a conflict could draw in both the United States and Iran, the militia’s main supporter.
The effort by top American officials to head off an Israeli offensive on Hezbollah, reported in detail here for the first time, reveals anxieties by the Biden administration over the war planning of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his aides, even as the two governments strive to present a strong united front in public.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 10:48:19 pm
Sen. Cruz:
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WATCH: Jack Lew, Biden’s nominee to be the Ambassador to Israel, REFUSES to say whether the billions flowed into Iran by the Biden administration funded Hamas’s war on Israel.
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Post by: Hoodat on October 21, 2023, 10:48:32 pm
Whatever Biden says, Israel needs to do the exact opposite.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 10:53:56 pm
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Mike @Doranimated
When asked why he agreed to allow aid into Gaza before the release of hostages, Israeli Def Min Galant said: “The Americans insisted, and we are in no position to refuse them. We depend on them for aircraft and military equipment. What should we have done? Should I refuse them?"
Whatever Biden says, Israel needs to do the exact opposite.
Israel needs to remind LIEden that when the US was attacked by A-Q and (decades earlier) Japan, Afghanistan and Japan paid for it 100X or 1000X or ######X. That is what Israel needs to do to Hamas & Gaza and to Hezbollah & southern Lebanon.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 10:57:44 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender
Chief Defense Correspondent for Channel 13 in Israel, “The IDF has Completed Preparations for a Ground Operation in Gaza. The Political Echelon still does not Approve.”
5:54 PM · Oct 21, 2023
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 10:59:19 pm
Israel needs to remind LIEden that when the US was attacked by A-Q and (decades earlier) Japan, Afghanistan and Japan paid for it 100X or 1000X or ######X. That is what Israel needs to do to Hamas & Gaza and to Hezbollah & southern Lebanon.
:thumbsup:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2023, 11:24:02 pm
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2023, 11:51:31 pm
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China deploys six warships to the Middle East over fears Israeli crisis could spark WW3. The Chinese military has deployed its 44th naval escort task force to the Middle East amid rising tensions in Israel.
Well, Brandon -- what are you going to do now??? 888mouth
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 12:14:41 am
Thousands of NYC protesters demand the eradication of Israel By Matthew Sedacca and Valentina Jaramillo
At least 5,000 anti-Israeli protesters filled the streets of Bay Ridge Saturday at a rally where they called for the eradication of the Jewish state and demanded the United States withdraw its support of its closest ally in the Middle East.
Around 2 p.m., demonstrators converged on 72nd Street and Fifth Avenue, packing the streets and sidewalk for the “Flood Brooklyn for Palestine” demonstration in one of the largest Arab and Middle Eastern communities in New York City.
“We are calling for full liberation of all of Palestine . . . to every single inch, from river to the sea,” shouted one protester, repeating a refrain used by Hamas terrorists and their anti-Israel backers.
“We are not like other groups simply calling for a cease-fire,” added the woman, wearing a T-shirt of one of the event’s organizers, the radical leftist group Within Our Life.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 12:24:49 am
Israel needs to remind LIEden that when the US was attacked by A-Q and (decades earlier) Japan, Afghanistan and Japan paid for it 100X or 1000X or ######X. That is what Israel needs to do to Hamas & Gaza and to Hezbollah & southern Lebanon.
Thousands of NYC protesters demand the eradication of Israel By Matthew Sedacca and Valentina Jaramillo
At least 5,000 anti-Israeli protesters filled the streets of Bay Ridge Saturday at a rally where they called for the eradication of the Jewish state and demanded the United States withdraw its support of its closest ally in the Middle East.
Around 2 p.m., demonstrators converged on 72nd Street and Fifth Avenue, packing the streets and sidewalk for the “Flood Brooklyn for Palestine” demonstration in one of the largest Arab and Middle Eastern communities in New York City.
“We are calling for full liberation of all of Palestine . . . to every single inch, from river to the sea,” shouted one protester, repeating a refrain used by Hamas terrorists and their anti-Israel backers.
“We are not like other groups simply calling for a cease-fire,” added the woman, wearing a T-shirt of one of the event’s organizers, the radical leftist group Within Our Life.
Hey if they're that committed, fly them on over to Gaza and let them put real actions to their words. I'm sure Hamas will be looking for replacements...no need to land the plane, just push the blood thirsty animals out the door while flying over. I know America will be better off without them.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 22, 2023, 01:11:24 am
Hey if they're that committed, fly them on over to Gaza and let them put real actions to their words. I'm sure Hamas will be looking for replacements...no need to land the plane, just push the blood thirsty animals out the door while flying over. I know America will be better off without them.
And SCOTUS. With DOJ and SCOTUS Democrats can rig elections at will, and flaunt any law or rule they want to. Just look at Joe and Hunter. Look at the streets of America today. Democrats laugh outloud at any mention of a "Law". It means nothing to them. And, they are correct in their assessment. And many of them are judges.
Democrats think of people who obey 'laws' as fools. And they are right.
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Post by: corbe on October 22, 2023, 02:22:25 am
And SCOTUS. With DOJ and SCOTUS Democrats can rig elections at will, and flaunt any law or rule they want to. Just look at Joe and Hunter. Look at the streets of America today. Democrats laugh outloud at any mention of a "Law". It means nothing to them. And, they are correct in their assessment. And many of them are judges.
Democrats think of people who obey 'laws' as fools. And they are right.
The only person that can fix the $hity election problems, in some States, is a Focused President. Trump had 4 years, 2 years of which his party controlled most everything, and the problems just seem to have exacerbated, like Trumps 4 years didn't make a difference :shrug: Why give him another 4 years, are you a masochist @240B
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Post by: LMAO on October 22, 2023, 02:26:30 am
Get yourself a big box of popcorn. This issue is going to greatly divide the Democrat Party. There are a lot of Democrats in Congress that support Israel, and it’s right to exist. That’s not true of their left-wing base. What happens when their base threatens to primary any pro Israel Democrats?
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Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 22, 2023, 12:24:58 pm
Get yourself a big box of popcorn. This issue is going to greatly divide the Democrat Party. There are a lot of Democrats in Congress that support Israel, and it’s right to exist. That’s not true of their left-wing base. What happens when their base threatens to primary any pro Israel Democrats?
They divide their party for r actual policy issues. The gop divides themselves over idiocy and personal egos.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 12:49:02 pm
Report: Israel Creates Special Unit to Hunt and Kill Every Participant in Hamas Terror Attack
Israel’s internal security service, the Shin Bet, has created a new unit, “Nili,” whose mission is to find and kill every single individual who participated in the Hamas terror attack on October 7, which saw over 1,400 Israelis murdered.
more https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/21/report-israel-creates-special-unit-to-kill-every-participant-in-hamas-terror-attack/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 12:53:24 pm
Israel increases number of hostages taken by Hamas to 212 by Lauren Sforza - 10/22/23 7:56 AM ET
The estimated number of hostages who are being held by militant group Hamas has increased to 212, according to an Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesperson.
IDF spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari confirmed at a Sunday morning press conference that 212 people were taken by Hamas fighters on Oct. 7, multiple news outlets reported. This is slightly up from the previous estimate of at least 203 people being held hostage by Hamas and comes just days after the militant group released two American hostages.
Israel entered its 16th day of fighting against Hamas, a militant group that the U.S. and other countries have designated as a terrorist organization, after its members infiltrated Israel in a surprise Oct. 7 attack, killing more than 1,400 Israelis.
Israel has since retaliated against the Gaza Strip, which Hamas rules. The Gaza Health Ministry said at least 4,385 Palestinians are dead as a result of the violence with another 13,561 people wounded. People across the world have taken to the streets to protest the loss of civilian life on both sides of the conflict and to call for a ceasefire.
The Biden administration has been unwavering of its support of Israel so far, vowing to back the nation in its effort against Hamas. President Biden also has also said efforts to secure other American hostages are underway after Hamas released Judith Raanan and her daughter, Natalie Raanan with the help of Qatar.
more https://thehill.com/policy/international/4269262-israel-increases-number-of-hostages-taken-by-hamas-to-212/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 12:55:20 pm
US to further increase military presence to bolster deterrence in Middle East by Lauren Sforza - 10/22/23 8:24 AM ET
The United States plans to ramp up its military presence in the Middle East as an act of deterrence amid the ongoing fighting in the region.
“Following detailed discussions with President Biden on recent escalations by Iran and its proxy forces across the Middle East Region, today I directed a series of additional steps to further strengthen the Department of Defense posture in the region,” Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin announced Saturday. “These steps will bolster regional deterrence efforts, increase force protection for U.S. forces in the region, and assist in the defense of Israel.”
Austin also said that he redirected the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower Strike Group to join the USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group, which is currently stationed in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea. He said this move with “further increase our force posture and strengthen our capabilities and ability to respond to a range of contingences.”
He also said the U.S. will deploy the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense battery in addition to Patriot battalions that will “increase force protection for U.S. forces.” He also said that he ordered more troops to prepare for deployment orders “as part of prudent contingency planning, to increase their readiness and ability to quickly respond as requited.”
The U.S. has vowed to back Israel in its war against militant group Hamas, which launched an unprecedented, deadly attack on Israel on Oct. 7 that prompted Israel to declare war on the group and launch a series of airstrikes targeting the group’s hotspots. The U.S. has designated Hamas as a terrorist organization.
more https://thehill.com/policy/international/4269282-us-to-further-increase-military-presence-to-bolster-deterrence-in-middle-east/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 01:02:19 pm
Senior Hamas rocket commander killed in Israeli strikes in Gaza, IDF spokesman says
IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari says Israeli air strikes killed yet another senior member of Hamas overnight Sunday.
Strikes in the Gaza strip killed dozens of Hamas targets throughout the night, Israel said, including the deputy commander of the group's rocket array. Hamas has fired thousands of rockets into Israel since the conflict began on October 7.
"We are increasing the attacks in the Gaza Strip in order to reduce the threats to our forces in preparation for the next phase of the war,” Hagari said.
“We will go to the next stage under the best conditions for the IDF and in accordance with the decision of the political echelon,” he added.
Hagari did not name the commander.
Posted by Anders Hagstrom Fox News
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 01:33:07 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 01:34:24 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 2m AH-64 “Apache” Attack Helicopters are currently Striking an Anti-Tank Guided Missile Nest inside of the Gaza Strip following the launch of a Missile at Israeli Troops near the Town of Kissufim several minutes ago.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 01:35:13 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 01:38:54 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 41m The President of France, Emmanuel Macron has Postponed his planned Visit to Israel for this Week until further notice due to a request from Isreali Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu; the reason for this request is Unknown.
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 33m Macron was expected to arrive in Tel Aviv on Tuesday where he would have met with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu as well as several other Government and Military Officials to discuss the War against Hamas and De-Escalation in the Region.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 01:40:19 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 31m Apparently Prime Minister Netanyahu’s Office is now Denying these Reports made by Israeli Media, claiming that his Trip for Tuesday has not been Postponed. Weird…
Quote Lahav Harkov @LahavHarkov · 42m Israeli Prime Minister's Office confirms that Macron will be visiting Israel on Tuesday.
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 22, 2023, 01:56:09 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 41m The President of France, Emmanuel Macron has Postponed his planned Visit to Israel for this Week until further notice due to a request from Isreali Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu; the reason for this request is Unknown.
DUH!!!
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 22, 2023, 01:59:08 pm
Ridiculous...isn't anyone able to keep their mouth shut??
Apparently not ---- and it's stunning.
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Post by: Kamaji on October 22, 2023, 02:41:57 pm
Israel vows to ‘wipe’ Iran, Hezbollah ‘off face of Earth’ if terror group joins Hamas in war: report
By Katherine Donlevy Published Oct. 22, 2023
Israel vowed Friday to launch a full-scale military attack against Iran if its terror group Hezbollah joins the ongoing war, according to a report.
Nir Barkat, Israel’s Minister of Economy, warned that it would “eliminate Hezbollah,” their proxy terror group in Lebanon, if it follows through on threats to throw its military support behind Hamas.
“The plan of Iran is to attack Israel on all fronts. If we find they intend to target Israel, we will not just retaliate to those fronts, but we will go to the head of the snake, which is Iran,” Barkat told the Daily Mail.
“The Ayatollahs in Iran are not going to sleep good at night, we are going to make sure they pay a heavy price if, God forbid, they open the northern front.”
Hezbollah has been exchanging fire with Israeli forces on the Lebanese border over the past two weeks in retaliation against the Israel Defense Force’s unrelenting bombing of the Gaza Strip.
Israel vows to ‘wipe’ Iran, Hezbollah ‘off face of Earth’ if terror group joins Hamas in war: report
By Katherine Donlevy Published Oct. 22, 2023
"The plan of Iran is to attack Israel on all fronts. If we find they intend to target Israel, we will not just retaliate to those fronts, but we will go to the head of the snake, which is Iran,” Barkat told the Daily Mail.
Godspeed ---- and don't wait for us.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 03:02:14 pm
World U.S. sending U.S. carrier strike group, additional air defense systems to Persian Gulf
By Faris Tanyos
October 21, 2023 / 11:54 PM / CBS News
As tensions heighten in the Middle East amid the escalating Israel-Hamas war, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced late Saturday that the U.S. will redeploy one of its strike groups to the Persian Gulf, as well as send additional air defense systems to the region.
Austin also said that he has placed additional U.S. forces on "prepare to deploy orders," but did not detail how many. Austin earlier this week ordered 2,000 troops to be prepared to deploy to the Middle East.
The latest decision followed "detailed discussions with President Biden on recent escalations by Iran and its proxy forces across the Middle East," Austin said in a statement.
The USS Dwight D. Eisenhower and its strike group — which last weekend Austin had announced was being deployed to the eastern Mediterranean Sea to join the USS Gerald R. Ford — will instead be heading to the Persian Gulf, Austin disclosed Saturday.
Austin also said he ordered a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) anti-missile battery, and Patriot missile defense system battalions, to the Persian Gulf as well.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 03:03:55 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 11m · The U.S. State Department has begun to Evacuate any Non-Essential Personnel and the Families of Staff at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, Iraq following a recent Increase in Attacks on American Troops and Nationals in the Middle East.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 03:04:28 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 11m · The U.S. State Department has begun to Evacuate any Non-Essential Personnel and the Families of Staff at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, Iraq following a recent Increase in Attacks on American Troops and Nationals in the Middle East.
I think every non-military American needs to get out the entire ME ASAP. Scorched earth knows no nationalities.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 03:08:42 pm
U.S. sending U.S. carrier strike group, additional air defense systems to Persian Gulf By Faris Tanyos October 21, 2023 / 11:54 PM / CBS News
As tensions heighten in the Middle East amid the escalating Israel-Hamas war, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced late Saturday that the U.S. will redeploy one of its strike groups to the Persian Gulf, as well as send additional air defense systems to the region.
Austin also said that he has placed additional U.S. forces on "prepare to deploy orders," but did not detail how many. Austin earlier this week ordered 2,000 troops to be prepared to deploy to the Middle East.
The allies gave residents of Dresden (or Tokyo) 24 hours warning? The purposes of Israel's bombing and missiles are to take out known Hamas leaders, Hamas installations, and Hamas' stocks of weapons and production facilities. Hamas intentionally places those in civilian areas and in parts of civilian buildings. Israel gave Gaza residents 24 hours warning, and exercises a degree of precision not possible over WW2 Dresden or Tokyo.
Not even slightly analogous.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 22, 2023, 03:26:04 pm
Michael Tracey @mtracey
It's just as well that the House is currently non-functional, because they're exercising the same amount of war-oversight powers as if they *were* functional: none
Biden deploys more US forces for a huge war in the Middle East, while the House GOP tweet cat emojis at one another
The allies gave residents of Dresden (or Tokyo) 24 hours warning? The purposes of Israel's bombing and missiles are to take out known Hamas leaders, Hamas installations, and Hamas' stocks of weapons and production facilities. Hamas intentionally places those in civilian areas and in parts of civilian buildings. Israel gave Gaza residents 24 hours warning, and exercises a degree of precision not possible over WW2 Dresden or Tokyo.
Not even slightly analogous.
Unless I've misunderstood his point, the former PM of Israel thinks it's analogous @PeteS in CA --- or is he is saying we've done worse?
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 03:45:25 pm
OSINTdefender reposted Israel Defense Forces @IDF · 11m A short while ago, an IDF tank accidentally fired and hit an Egyptian post adjacent to the border in the area of Kerem Shalom. The incident is being investigated and the details are under review.
The IDF expresses sorrow regarding the incident.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 03:48:25 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 03:53:02 pm
Hamas blocking Americans from leaving Gaza: Blinken By Ryan King Published Oct. 22, 2023, 11:04 a.m. ET
Hamas is preventing Americans and other foreign nationals from exiting the Gaza Strip, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Sunday.
“The ball is in the Hamas’ court in terms of letting people who want to leave — civilians from third countries including Americans,” Blinken told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
When pressed about whether Hamas was preventing Americans from leaving Gaza, the US’s top diplomat responded, “That’s correct.
“We have US personnel on the other side of the border in Egypt, consular personell” he said, declining to outright specify whether any US personnel is presently in Gaza.
Blinken declined to say whether Hamas had taken American hostages or if other terrorist groups in the Gaza Strip, such as Palestinian Islamic Jihad, had some of them.
President Biden spoke on the phone Saturday with freed Americans Judith Raanan, 59, and her 17-year-old daughter Natalie, who were recently released from captivity in Gaza.
Israel is expected to mount a ground invasion of Gaza imminently.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/22/blinken-says-hamas-preventing-americans-from-leaving-gaza/
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Post by: catfish1957 on October 22, 2023, 03:55:54 pm
Easy Peasy ...... In these goat f'ers minds....... the more human shields, the better
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 04:09:13 pm
US senators meet with families of hostages taken by Hamas, call for Hamas to 'be destroyed'
A bipartisan group of U.S. senators reemphasized their support for Israel's war agaisnt Hamas during a trip on Sunday.
Led by Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., the Senators met with Israeli officials and were shown footage of Hamas' unprecedented October 7 assault on Isreal, which left at least 1,400 people dead. Each of them spoke in turn following their meetings with Israeli officials and the families of hostages taken by Hamas.
Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., said he had rarely seen a group of U.S. senators so "moved" and "inspired" than he did Sunday morning. He assured Israel that it has his full support in its war against Hamas terrorists.
He went on to offer his support for the Palestinian people, who he says are also victims of Hamas.
Each of the senators also offered a warning to Iran not to intervene in the conflict, either directly or through its terrorist proxies like Hezbollah. Posted by Anders Hagstrom Fox News
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 04:11:49 pm
Second convoy of aid has entered Gaza, Egyptian media says
A convoy of 17 trucks crossed the Egyptian border into Gaza carrying aid for civilians amid Israel's war against Hamas on Sunday, according to Egyptian state media.
The convoy would be the second aid package to arrive in Gaza since Israel imposed a blockade on the region. Israeli first announced last week that it would allow Egypt to deliver supplies.
The report comes as the U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees says it will run out of fuel in Gaza by Wednesday. It is unclear whether the 2nd convoy carried any fuel, as the first did not.
Israel has appeared poised for an invasion of Gaza for more than a week, but no order has come down to begin a ground operation.
The Associated Press contributed to this report Posted by Anders Hagstrom
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 04:13:41 pm
sraeli forces released footage of their first-ever use of the "Iron Sting" in an operation on Sunday.
The army used the weapons system in conjuction with the Israeli Air Force, describing it as a "innovative and accurate mortar bomb." The dense urban environments of Gaza and the West Bank ensure that the accuracy of Israel's air strikes is a top priority.
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Post by: Kamaji on October 22, 2023, 04:30:15 pm
Hamas blocking Americans from leaving Gaza: Blinken
By Ryan King Published Oct. 22, 2023
Hamas is preventing Americans and other foreign nationals from exiting the Gaza Strip, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Sunday.
“The ball is in the Hamas’ court in terms of letting people who want to leave — civilians from third countries including Americans,” Blinken told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
When pressed about whether Hamas was preventing Americans from leaving Gaza, the US’s top diplomat responded, “That’s correct.
“We have US personnel on the other side of the border in Egypt, consular personell” he said, declining to outright specify whether any US personnel is presently in Gaza.
Blinken declined to say whether Hamas had taken American hostages or if other terrorist groups in the Gaza Strip, such as Palestinian Islamic Jihad, had some of them.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 22, 2023, 04:38:20 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender
U.S. Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin stated during an Interview this morning that we are seeing the prospect of a Significant Escalation of Attacks against our Troops and People across the Middle East and that we will not hesitate to Respond if the Conflict in the Region continues to Expand.
10:00 AM · Oct 22, 2023
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 22, 2023, 04:45:59 pm
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POSOBIEC: “Hezbollah is not Hamas. That is a military, a non-state military force that can hit ships at sea with their anti-ship cruise missiles”
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 22, 2023, 04:58:35 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender
The U.S. State Department has Warned its Staff and other Government Personnel to avoid using Baghdad International Airport in Iraq until further notice due to the ongoing Attacks by Pro-Iranian Militias.
12:53 PM · Oct 22, 2023
Anyone starting to miss Saddam?
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Post by: Free Vulcan on October 22, 2023, 05:10:11 pm
Welcome to the consequences of our big deficit spending. When you throw around trillions, a few billions to these kinds of terrorists organizations just gets lost in the noise.
Problem is you can fund a pretty serious operation with billions if you're coming from a terrorist perspective.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 05:36:16 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 10m The Israeli Defense Force has announced that a Soldier was Killed earlier today and 3 other Injured during a Raid into the Gaza Strip which was conducted in order to Destroy Hamas Positions near the Border Fence and also to assist in the Collection of Bodies.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 05:36:56 pm
World U.S. sending U.S. carrier strike group, additional air defense systems to Persian Gulf
By Faris Tanyos
October 21, 2023 / 11:54 PM / CBS News
As tensions heighten in the Middle East amid the escalating Israel-Hamas war, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced late Saturday that the U.S. will redeploy one of its strike groups to the Persian Gulf, as well as send additional air defense systems to the region.
Austin also said that he has placed additional U.S. forces on "prepare to deploy orders," but did not detail how many. Austin earlier this week ordered 2,000 troops to be prepared to deploy to the Middle East.
The latest decision followed "detailed discussions with President Biden on recent escalations by Iran and its proxy forces across the Middle East," Austin said in a statement.
The USS Dwight D. Eisenhower and its strike group — which last weekend Austin had announced was being deployed to the eastern Mediterranean Sea to join the USS Gerald R. Ford — will instead be heading to the Persian Gulf, Austin disclosed Saturday.
I wonder who made that call? Maybe there is someone competent at the Pentagon after all. Park an aircraft carrier off the coast of Qatar and provide air cover for IDF bombers destroying Hamas HQ.
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Post by: Free Vulcan on October 22, 2023, 06:40:40 pm
Electing Hamas again and again to lead your government has consequences.
Exactly. Whether here or abroad, I'm tired of people who vote for their own destruction over and over then like little children wonder why it ended so badly.
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Post by: Hoodat on October 22, 2023, 06:41:58 pm
Hamas blocking Americans from leaving Gaza: Blinken By Ryan King Published Oct. 22, 2023, 11:04 a.m. ET
Hamas is preventing Americans and other foreign nationals from exiting the Gaza Strip, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Sunday.
“The ball is in the Hamas’ court in terms of letting people who want to leave — civilians from third countries including Americans,” Blinken told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
When pressed about whether Hamas was preventing Americans from leaving Gaza, the US’s top diplomat responded, “That’s correct.
OMG, THESE PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS !!!
You just let 20 truckloads of who-knows-what enter into Gaza. You couldn't have made sure that the Americans STANDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GATE pass through at the same time? What a friggin' fool!
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Post by: Hoodat on October 22, 2023, 06:43:24 pm
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Post by: corbe on October 22, 2023, 06:59:05 pm
And no one is searching those convoys for smuggled weapons, another biteme State Department f*ckup..
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 07:40:23 pm
Trey Yingst reposted Lucas Tomlinson @LucasFoxNews U.S. defense secretary Lloyd Austin predicts invading Gaza will be more difficult than the 9-month assault against ISIS in Mosul: “Urban combat is extremely difficult. It goes at a slow pace. This may be a bit more difficult because of the underground network of tunnels that Hamas has constructed over time, and the fact that they have had a long time to prepare for a fight. So I think you'll see a fight that's characterized by a lot of IEDs, a lot of booby traps, and just a really grinding activity going forward.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 07:41:13 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 07:44:23 pm
I bet discussing how to make Bibi stop the ground was...
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1h U.S. President Biden reportedly spoke by Phone tonight with Israeli Prime Minister, Netanyahu to discuss ongoing Developments in Israel, Gaza, and the surrounding Region.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 07:44:56 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 38m After being Inspected by Israeli Security Officials for Weapons and Contraband, 14 more Trucks carrying Humanitarian Aid have been allowed to cross the Rafah Border Checkpoint from Egypt into the Gaza Strip.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 07:45:27 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 07:46:17 pm
OSINTdefender reposted Secretary Antony Blinken @SecBlinken · 21h Spoke with Qatar’s Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs @MBA_AlThani_ today about the crisis in Israel and Gaza and thanked him for Qatar’s work to secure the return of two missing Americans as well as Qatar’s efforts to advance security and stability in the region.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 07:49:34 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 07:55:33 pm
Hamas caught firing rockets from next to UN facilities, schools - IDF By JERUSALEM POST STAFF OCTOBER 22, 2023 20:24
Hamas has placed its rocket launchers next to schools, UN facilities, mosques, and kindergartens, with the IDF publishing aerial footage showing the proximity of the launchers to civilian facilities on Sunday.
video https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-769653
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 08:05:15 pm
What a fool...playing right into Hamas's hand...I knew he would do this!
US frantically tries to stall Israeli invasion of Gaza to allow more hostage negotiations By Ronny Reyes Published Oct. 22, 2023, 1:25 p.m. ET
The Biden administration is frantically trying to stall Israel’s invasion of Gaza in hopes of furthering negotiations over the more than 200 hostages still held by Hamas, a report said Sunday.
The development came as Israel ramped up its bombardment in Gaza ahead of its planned all-out invasion and clashes along the Israel-Lebanon border grew — with Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warning Sunday that if the Lebanese terror group Hezbollah “decides to enter the war … it will be the mistake of its life.”
President Biden and other US officials remained in frantic talks to delay the Gaza invasion of Israel Defense Forces so that more hostages might be freed before the Palestinian territory dissolves further into a war zone, sources briefed on the talks told CNN.
“The [administration] pressed Israeli leadership to delay because of progress on the hostage front,” an official said after the release of two US citizens Friday.
Biden, asked Saturday if he was discussing plans to delay the Gaza invasion, told reporters, “I’m talking to the Israelis.”
America is currently serving as a key negotiator along with Qatar to ensure the release of 210 hostages, including 30 children, trapped in Gaza. Qatar, which delivers aid to Palestinians, has previously worked with the US to free hostages in Afghanistan and Iraq.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/22/us-frantically-tries-to-stall-israeli-invasion-of-gaza-to-allow-more-hostage-negotiations/
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Post by: Polly Ticks on October 22, 2023, 08:05:20 pm
:bkmk:
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Post by: sneakypete on October 22, 2023, 08:05:47 pm
Ok,fine,so why don't they take their asses BACK to Palestine,pick up a rifle,and go Jew-Hunting?
Could it be because they are cowards and want someone else to do their fighting and getting maimed for life/dying for them?
IF that is the case,and I STRONGLY suspect it is,the US needs to deport these cowardly bastards back to Palistine and put them on a "no entry list" to keep them from ever returning.
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Post by: catfish1957 on October 22, 2023, 08:05:55 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 08:13:19 pm
21 Israeli children orphaned, 200,000 displaced by war By David Spector
21 children from 13 different families have become orphans after Hamas launched their surprise October 7th Terrorist attack, which saw the single largest killing of Jews since the Holocaust, The Jerusalem Post reports.
Most of the children's parents were murdered, two of the orphans -- one of which is a four-year-old girl -- are currently held hostage by the terror group in Gaza.
"The fact that so many children are victims of the brutal attack by Hamas turns my stomach," said Israeli Minister of Welfare Yaakov Mergi.
Mergi went on to say he is speeding up the process of providing resources to the orphans and the families taking care of them.
"The Welfare Ministry is prepared to provide long-term and trauma-focused care to every boy and girl affected by this criminal attack," the welfare minister added.
Meanwhile, around 200,000 Israelis have been displaced from their homes since the outbreak of the war, The Times of Israel reports.
Half of the displaced individuals were ordered to flee their homes in the border areas with Lebanon in the north, and Gaza in the south, the rest left on their own
NYPost
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Post by: catfish1957 on October 22, 2023, 08:19:29 pm
21 Israeli children orphaned, 200,000 displaced by war By David Spector
21 children from 13 different families have become orphans after Hamas launched their surprise October 7th Terrorist attack, which saw the single largest killing of Jews since the Holocaust, The Jerusalem Post reports.
Most of the children's parents were murdered, two of the orphans -- one of which is a four-year-old girl -- are currently held hostage by the terror group in Gaza.
"The fact that so many children are victims of the brutal attack by Hamas turns my stomach," said Israeli Minister of Welfare Yaakov Mergi.
Mergi went on to say he is speeding up the process of providing resources to the orphans and the families taking care of them.
"The Welfare Ministry is prepared to provide long-term and trauma-focused care to every boy and girl affected by this criminal attack," the welfare minister added.
Meanwhile, around 200,000 Israelis have been displaced from their homes since the outbreak of the war, The Times of Israel reports.
Half of the displaced individuals were ordered to flee their homes in the border areas with Lebanon in the north, and Gaza in the south, the rest left on their own
NYPost
There really needs to be some serious counter demonstrations to let these POS muzzies know they are on the side of evil.
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Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 22, 2023, 08:51:13 pm
Exactly. Whether here or abroad, I'm tired of people who vote for their own destruction over and over then like little children wonder why it ended so badly.
Yeah, well, WE HAVE CONGRESS! :shrug: 22222frying pan **nononono*
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 09:15:25 pm
Hamas left explosive trap inside child's backpack, other boobytraps amid retreat from Oct. 7 attack
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Post by: catfish1957 on October 22, 2023, 09:22:53 pm
Must be Linzy's time of the month.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 09:25:34 pm
Lucas Tomlinson @LucasFoxNews In Tel Aviv, Sen. Blumenthal says Iran gave Hamas the ‘green light’ to launch its massacre on Israel. His message to Tehran: “If you're thinking about giving the green light to Hezbollah, as you did to Hamas—don’t.”
The White House has previously said there is ‘no direct evidence’ linking Iran to the attack. 3:29 PM · Oct 22, 2023 · 34.5K Views
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 09:26:26 pm
Lucas Tomlinson @LucasFoxNews · 28m Sen. Katie Britt in Tel Aviv after briefing from Israeli officials: “Kids having to watch their parents be murdered, parents having to watch their children be burned to death, women having to be raped, kids decapitated. It's disgusting. It's despicable—and it is pure evil.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 09:29:10 pm
Exactly. Whether here or abroad, I'm tired of people who vote for their own destruction over and over then like little children wonder why it ended so badly.
Name the opposition party in Gaza.
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 22, 2023, 10:47:23 pm
Exactly. Whether here or abroad, I'm tired of people who vote for their own destruction over and over then like little children wonder why it ended so badly.
Baby Boomers are dying out.
They're probably the last generation to have recited the Pledge of Allegiance in school each morning.
The USA we were born into has already vanished.
There are huge zip codes here that straddle the Capital Beltway Rt 495/Rt 95 where you can drive for twenty minutes and you will not see a single Caucasian.
It's the plain hard truth. And why there are no more white people driving cars, eat food or but appliances in television commercials.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 22, 2023, 10:49:39 pm
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We’re on the brink of World War III and this is how Joe Biden is spending the weekend:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 11:01:56 pm
OSINTdefender reposted Thomas van Linge @ThomasVLinge · 56m #Palestine 🇵🇸: heavy bombardments taking place on the #Gaza Strip tonight, with reports of death and wounded flooding into the local hospitals.
Multiple sources speak of the "most severe bombardments so far"
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 11:04:40 pm
Geez...just hope the Ayatollah isn't rubbing his hands with glee thinking "man aashiq zamani hastam kah yak bernama ba ham tarkeeb may shood" (I love when a plan comes together)
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 11:26:55 pm
Lucas Tomlinson @LucasFoxNews · 4m State Dept: “U.S. citizens who wish to depart Lebanon should leave now”
Monday is the 40th anniversary of the Beirut barracks bombing.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 22, 2023, 11:28:55 pm
Lucas Tomlinson @LucasFoxNews · 28m Sen. Katie Britt in Tel Aviv after briefing from Israeli officials: “Kids having to watch their parents be murdered, parents having to watch their children be burned to death, women having to be raped, kids decapitated. It's disgusting. It's despicable—and it is pure evil.”
That's just it.
Murder, immolation, rape, and decapitation are all optional.
What makes this so horrific is that Hamas went for the full option package, and not just military domination.
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Post by: GtHawk on October 23, 2023, 12:33:46 am
I just hope that this time if the Iranians or any other moslem races a speed or any other boat at an American ship they are dispatched with with extreme prejudice...do not pass go...do not collect 72 virgins...just burn in hell. I mean what's the downside to exterminating them, they'll hate us more than the already 200% they do now, they'll attack us? Take a age from the Daleks...EXTERMINATE! And if any of the terrorist wankers in America start shit up?
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Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 12:36:04 am
The Saddam v. Khomeini war ended 12 years before "W" took office.
Seems to me we half-assed backed Saddam, at least until he invaded Kuwait. He served as a buffer between Iran and the rest of the Middle East. Once he invaded Kuwait, Daddy Bush's mullah pals were none too happy, and the roots of the whole sh*tshow through 9/11 and up to the current mess were planted.
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Post by: 240B on October 23, 2023, 08:00:38 am
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Post by: 240B on October 23, 2023, 08:58:49 am
Breaking: Hamas claims Israel unleashed a dragon on Gaza and has so far burned 3,000,000 people there. The story has been confirmed by BBC. (https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/amAQrvy_460s.jpg)
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 23, 2023, 09:04:55 am
Maybe I am not remembering correctly, but hostilities between the two remained throughout the period up to W's time. Too tired too look it up.
Maybe a more accurate representation is that "W" took out the balance. That can not be disputed.
I thought it had something to do with his father GHWB and Desert Storm...Saddam's invasion of Kuwait.
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Post by: 240B on October 23, 2023, 09:37:51 am
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Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mountaineer on October 23, 2023, 11:19:46 am
We are witnessing a Holocaust denial-like phenomenon unfolding in real time. So tomorrow, Israel will screen for foreign journalists the raw, unedited footage of Hamas’ atrocities in the October 7 Massacre, as captured by its death squads’ body cams. https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1716124806666416555
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 01:12:37 pm
*** WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT *** Horror: IDF Screens Raw Footage of Hamas Terror Attack for Media
Joel B. Pollak 23 Oct 2023
GLILOT BASE, Israel — I wanted it to stop at 17 minutes in. But I had to watch. We had to bear witness.
This is what we saw.
A father and two sons, in their underwear, having just woken up, are trying to flee from their home.
The father picks up one boy and all three run to a shelter in the back yard.
A terrorist peers over the fence and lobs a grenade into the shelter. It bounces off the back wall and explodes.
The father’s body falls forward. A boy appears, covered in his father’s blood, looking at his father.
For a moment, you think the terrorists will shoot him.
Instead, the armed terrorists bring the boys inside, into the home.
One boy sits on a chair, the other on a couch, both still in their underwear, both covered in trickles of blood, theirs and their father’s. They wail: “Daddy! Daddy!” The boy on the couch says, “Itay, I think they are going to kill us.”
A terrorist — with a Palestinian flag patch on his flak jacket — opens the fridge and asks if they want water — “mayim,” in Hebrew. The one on the couch replies, in English, that he wants his mother — not “mayim,” but “mommy.” He repeats: “Mommy. Mommy.”
Then comes the worst moment of all.
more https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/23/warning-graphic-content-horror-idf-screens-raw-footage-of-hamas-terror-attack-for-media/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 01:14:24 pm
Jews, Arabs Unite in Israel Against Palestinian Hamas Terror
The war against Palestinian Hamas terrorists has united Jewish and Arab Israelis as never before, after years of worries that tensions between the two communities might destabilize Israeli society.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 01:15:54 pm
Israeli President: Hamas Terrorists Had Instructions to Manufacture Cyanide Weapons
Israel’s ceremonial president, Isaac Herzog, told Britain’s Sky News on Sunday that Hamas terrorists were found with USB drives that included instructions on how to manufacture cyanide for use against Israelis.
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Post by: Kamaji on October 23, 2023, 01:33:23 pm
BLM activist Shaun King ‘lying’ about claims he helped free American hostages in Gaza, family says: ‘We are not affiliated’
By Richard Pollina Published Oct. 23, 2023
The family of the two American hostages freed by Hamas terrorists has accused Black Lives Matter activist Shaun King of lying when he claimed he worked “frantically behind the scenes” to help secure their release.
Natalie Raanan, 17, and her mother, Judith Tai Raanan, 59, were freed by Hamas on Friday after spending nearly two weeks in captivity following the terror group’s bloody Oct. 7 attack on Israel.
After news broke that the mom and daughter were free, King, 44, appeared to take some credit for their safe return.
“Hamas has just freed the teenager Natalie Raanan and her mother. I’m grateful. As I said last week, Natalie and her family have been supporters of mine and protested police violence in America alongside us,” King wrote in an Instagram post on Friday.
“I am also thankful for the Qatari government for helping to negotiate this. Dozens of us worked frantically behind the scenes to help make this possible. I spoke to Natalie’s family this afternoon and they are anxiously awaiting more updates.”
However, members of the Raanan family are saying the activist fabricated his involvement and that he did nothing to help, according to reports.
“First and foremost, we make it clear that he is lying! Our family does not and did not have anything to do with him, neither directly nor indirectly. Not to him and not to anything he claims to represent,” Raanan family members wrote in a statement obtained by TMZ.
Maybe a more accurate representation is that "W" took out the balance. That can not be disputed.
Yup. Saddam kept Iran in check. By removing Saddam, W ploughed he field for the steady advance of Iran's power and influence in the Middle East -- and beyond.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 01:43:40 pm
Israel bombards Gaza, Lebanon as Netanyahu convenes war cabinet By Reuters Published Oct. 23, 2023, 2:59 a.m. ET
Israel bombarded Gaza with air strikes early on Monday and its aircraft struck southern Lebanon overnight, as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu convened a meeting of his top generals and his war cabinet to assess the escalating conflict.
Israel’s attacks concentrated on the Gaza Strip’s centre and north, Palestinian media reported.
A strike on a house near the Jabalia refugee camp, in northern Gaza, killed several Palestinians and wounded others, according to media reports.
In the Israeli-occupied West Bank, two Palestinians were killed at the Jalazone refugee camp near Ramallah, the Palestinian health ministry said on Monday.
Residents told Reuters that Israeli forces raided the camp and carried out widespread arrests, as they clashed with gunmen and some youths who threw stones. The Israeli army has not issued a statement about the incident.
Health authorities in Gaza said at least 4,600 people were killed in Israel’s two-week bombardment that began after a Hamas Oct. 7 rampage on southern Israeli communities in which 1,400 people were killed and 212 were taken into Gaza as hostages.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/23/israel-bombards-gaza-lebanon-as-netanyahu-convenes-war-cabinet/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 01:50:04 pm
We are witnessing a Holocaust denial-like phenomenon unfolding in real time. So tomorrow, Israel will screen for foreign journalists the raw, unedited footage of Hamas’ atrocities in the October 7 Massacre, as captured by its death squads’ body cams.
I think what we are witnessing is not a denial of the Holocaust, but its fading in influence ---- a function of time, with multiple generations distanced from the war and power of the atrocities. I'm not sure that power can be reignited.
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Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 23, 2023, 01:58:49 pm
We are witnessing a Holocaust denial-like phenomenon unfolding in real time. So tomorrow, Israel will screen for foreign journalists the raw, unedited footage of Hamas’ atrocities in the October 7 Massacre, as captured by its death squads’ body cams. https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1716124806666416555
Already saw enough, gore, blood, and charred bodies in HD quality, just last week. No thanks, I'll pass. I was never on Hamas side but I have to profess ignorance at the specifics of the Israel/Palestine strife since 1940's. Since seeing the footage I'm sort of more than ever on Israel's side. Seems like even if they kill every Hamas members this will almost certainly happen again at some point. And even worse.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 02:15:55 pm
No questions,and I will add that I wouldn't be surprised to see China make a move on the Russian gold and oil fields. After all,Russia is maxed out right now manpower and equipment wise,just from dealing with Ukraine. There is no way in hell they can fight a two-front war when the other opponent is China.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Free Vulcan on October 23, 2023, 03:34:03 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on October 23, 2023, 03:54:00 pm
I had a chance meeting with a survivor of that attack.
I was riding the subway home from hich school in the city. The guy was standing next to me. He was headed to a rehab center for help with his traumatic brain injury.
He said the weaponry that was used to secure the perimeter only rotated 180 degrees. So, once the suicide bombers were inside the perimeter, those guns were useless. That's how the suicide bombers were able to get so close to the barracks.
I had a chance meeting with a survivor of that attack.
I was riding the subway home from hich school in the city. The guy was standing next to me. He was headed to a rehab center for help with his traumatic brain injury.
He said the weaponry that was used to secure the perimeter only rotated 180 degrees. So, once the suicide bombers were inside the perimeter, those guns were useless. That's how the suicide bombers were able to get so close to the barracks.
The guns were useless anyway because, IIRC, they were not loaded.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 03:56:56 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on October 23, 2023, 03:59:26 pm
The line has already been crossed ... murdered and kidnapped Americans ... when does the carpet bombing of Tehran start?
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 04:05:29 pm
17 minutes ago Israel struck 320+ military targets in Gaza Strip from Sunday into Monday: IDF By Kaydi Pelletier
In a "real-time update" posted on its website Monday, the Israel Defense Forces said it struck more than 320 military targets in the Gaza Strip over a daylong period.
"The terror targets were struck based on IDF and ISA [Israel Security Authority] intelligence, and included tunnels containing Hamas terrorists, dozens of operational command centers (some of which concealed Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists) and more," said the news brief, published at 8:50 a.m. local time (1:50 a.m. ET).
"The IDF struck targets that posed a threat to forces in the area surrounding the Gaza Strip who are preparing for ground operations, including dozens of mortar shell and anti-tank missile launch posts.
"Overnight, an IDF tank thwarted a number of terrorist cells, including an anti-tank missile cell."
NYPost
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 04:12:53 pm
The guns were useless anyway because, IIRC, they were not loaded.
I had a Marine in my battery in the late 80's who had been there.
The guards had live ammo in their magazines, but they didn't have rounds chambered. It was even worse with the crew served weapons because the belts of ammo weren't even allowed to have been in the weapon at all, even unchambered. The guards armed with rifles essentially had to make two decisions -- the decision to chamber and the decision to fire -- based on the same criteria -- that they had to act "immediately" in self-defense. Well, by definition, you couldn't fire when that was the case because you first had to chamber the weapons. And by the time you did that, you'd missed the "immediate" window for opening fire.
Crew-served weapons had no chance at all, and the rifle fire alone likely would not have been enough even if those guys did have time.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 05:54:43 pm
Fox News reporter Trey Yingst visibly shaken as he shares gruesome details of Hamas terrorist’s Israel massacre confession By Alexandra Steigrad Published Oct. 23, 2023, 12:11 p.m. ET
Fox News war correspondent Trey Yingst said he had to censor the brutality uttered by a captured Hamas terrorist who admitted to doing “things humans do not do.”
Yingst obtained a video of what the terrorist told Israeli forces, but spared viewers the most disturbing details from his confession of the Oct. 7 massacre that killed more than 1,400 Israelis.
“I do need to warn our viewers, what I am about to describe is incredibly graphic, but it gives new details on what took place two weeks ago,” the visibly shaken reporter said during Saturday’s broadcast.
The terrorist told interrogators their “commanders said they could do whatever they felt like doing and that this was a suicide mission, telling them they should not plan on coming back,” according to the video, which was first reported on by Mediaite.
“He says commanders told them to step on the heads of civilians, to behead them and do whatever they felt like,” Yingst said. “He went on to talk about how Hamas and ISIS are being compared. The interrogator asked him about this comparison, and he agreed. He said, we burned, we slaughtered, and beheaded people.”
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/23/media/fox-news-war-reporter-limits-grisly-details-of-hamas-terrorists-confession-about-israel-massacre/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 06:09:21 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender Hamas is reportedly prepared to Release at least 50 Duel-Citizen Hostages to the International Red Cross in Southern Gaza following Negotiations between the Terror Organization and Qatar; according to the Red Cross, once they have Custody of the Hostages they will be Turned Over to Isreali Forces along the Border with the Gaza Strip in order to be Reunited with their Families.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 06:10:15 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 06:11:38 pm
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EndGameWW3 🇺🇸 @EndGameWW3 · 15m It's a tough call, Netanyahu sends his guys in and they get hammered that won't be good, if Netanyahu doesn't go in then he will be gone...
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Swan @BigPoppaSwan · 14m Netanyahu's hesitation contrasts Gallant and Gantz's confidence in the IDF. Indecision at the top can cost lives. Decide, Israel!
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 06:15:20 pm
I would have never guessed it is Netanyahu who is reluctant about going in...
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 06:18:59 pm
The question is one of if this does become a regional conflict, which side will China support (aside from China)? Will this lead to more direct conflict between the US and Chinese forces?
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Post by: DefiantMassRINO on October 23, 2023, 06:40:24 pm
China will support Iran.
North Korea, China, Russia, and Iran are informally allied in an counter-American axis.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 06:53:30 pm
w7voa Steve Herman @w7voa@journa.host
Hamas reportedly releases two elderly Israeli women.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 06:53:38 pm
Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 27m NEW: Two Israeli hostages released from Gaza, a well-placed Israeli source tells Fox News.
Another source briefed on the matter has confirmed to Fox News that they were released following Qatari mediation efforts.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 07:03:44 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 07:11:03 pm
2 more hostages released by Hamas: report By Kaydi Pelletier
Two more hostages have been released by Hamas, according to CNN, which cites two Israeli officials and other sources.
It reported the captives were freed after following mediation by Qatar and Egypt.
One CNN source said the hostages were Israeli citizens and another said they were released to the Red Cross.
The outlet reported the newly-released hostages are not yet in Israel, and that they are both women.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 07:12:06 pm
Hamas releases two more Israeli hostages: Nurit Cooper and Yocheved Lifshitz The terror organization released two women, Israel confirmed. By JERUSALEM POST STAFF, MAAYAN JAFFE-HOFFMAN, TOVAH LAZAROFF OCTOBER 23, 2023 17:32 Updated: OCTOBER 23, 2023 22:09
Two captives out of the 222 hostages Hamas abducted on October 7 were released from Gaza to Egypt on Monday night, Israel confirmed.
Nurit Cooper and Yocheved Lifshitz, both in their 80s from Kibbutz Nir Oz, were released to the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), which took them to the Rafah crossing where they were met by Israeli security officials.
Their husbands, also in their 80s, remain in captivity,
more https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-769795
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 07:13:07 pm
drip drip drip....Hamas will keep doing this to keep Israel/US from starting the ground war..
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 23, 2023, 07:24:09 pm
North Korea, China, Russia, and Iran are informally allied in an counter-American axis.
Yep. There is no other reason for China's ships to be there, except to exert hegemony.
'Accidentally' hit one of our carrier groups, and the S will HTF: WWIII. Escalation could happen in a matter of minutes, not days. We're off balance and poorly led for such a situation, and Biden is no FDR to hang another term of getting us into conflict. Our manufacturing is behind even the ghost of itself of the mid 30s, and there has been no ramp up like with Lend Lease. Too many eggs are in technological baskets the bugs have not been shaken out of, including the Ford.
Add in that it seems everyone seems to have forgotten the horror of nuclear war, and the Muslims really don't care (shaheed and all that), and this is worse by far than the Cuban Missile Crisis, and led by an administration perfused with anti-American people who have other loyalties.
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Post by: Kamaji on October 23, 2023, 07:33:02 pm
Yep. There is no other reason for China's ships to be there, except to exert hegemony.
'Accidentally' hit one of our carrier groups, and the S will HTF: WWIII. Escalation could happen in a matter of minutes, not days. We're off balance and poorly led for such a situation, and Biden is no FDR to hang another term of getting us into conflict. Our manufacturing is behind even the ghost of itself of the mid 30s, and there has been no ramp up like with Lend Lease. Too many eggs are in technological baskets the bugs have not been shaken out of, including the Ford.
Add in that it seems everyone seems to have forgotten the horror of nuclear war, and the Muslims really don't care (shaheed and all that), and this is worse by far than the Cuban Missile Crisis, and led by an administration perfused with anti-American people who have other loyalties.
They have no hegemony to exert in the Mediterranean. They're trying to assert relevance on the world stage, not hegemony.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 07:39:39 pm
drip drip drip....Hamas will keep doing this to keep Israel/US from starting the ground war..
The US has pulled back from a ground war ---- this and Israel's expanding efforts to convince the world this is attack is worse than the Holocaust have shifted Israel's focus and position.
16 days ago Israel owned the narrative of self-defense and war. Now the narrative is muddled by Israeli and international actions, apparently taking momentum with it.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 08:03:50 pm
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000062293805.jpg?quality=80&strip=all) Amiram Cooper (left), 85, and his wife, Nurit (Yitzhak) Cooper, 80, with Gali, their granddaughter in an undated Facebook photo. Nurit was released by Hamas on Monday, but it is believed that Amiram is still being held hostage.
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000062294312.jpg?quality=80&strip=all) Oded (left) and Yocheved Lifshitz, from Kibbutz Nahal Oz, in an undated photo. The couple reportedly spent years driving Palestinians from Gaza into Israel to receive life-saving medical treatment. Yocheved was released by Hamas into Egypt on Monday, while her husband is still reportedly being held in Gaza.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 08:05:48 pm
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16 days ago Israel owned the narrative of self defense and war. Now the narrative is muddled by Israeli and international actions, apparently taking momentum with it.
Bibi will be history in Israel if that happens....he should have NEVER listened to Biden...FJB
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 08:07:32 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 29m Several Bases operated by U.S. Forces in Eastern Syria have reportedly been Attacked by Drones within the last Hour; this is almost surely once again the Islamic Revolution in Iraq.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 23, 2023, 08:18:52 pm
Bibi will be history in Israel if that happens....he should have NEVER listened to Biden...FJB
It seems Bibi's taking the political hit --- based on many and long conversations with our friends in Israel. They are confused, to put it mildly --- they don't understand how this attack could unfold as it did or the hesitation now--- and are becoming concerned that they have become a paper tiger.
They're not (yet) pointing a finger at Biden.
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Post by: berdie on October 23, 2023, 08:24:13 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 10:15:48 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 58m Airstrikes now across the entire Gaza Strip with Explosions heard near Rafah to the South and the Beit Lahia Project in the North.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 10:16:30 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 27m Israeli Self-Propelled Artillery is currently Hammering the Northern Gaza Strip.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 10:17:37 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 36m The U.S. Department of Defense stated tonight that there is a High Possibility that Security Conditions for our Interests in the Middle East will continue to Deteriorate.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 10:18:18 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Fishrrman on October 23, 2023, 10:22:19 pm
berdie wrote: "Israel and Netanyahu's hands are tied. I'm furious as I'm sure they are. This will result in an "unofficial" win for Hamas. And further assaults by them"
Indeed. By not invading promptly, Israel may have already "lost". They may eventually inflict sufficient damage upon hamas. But it will not be "a win" for Israel, and what they gain will come at great cost.
A Fishrrman "hope it won't happen™" prediction: Israel is not going to invade Gaza. Even after amassing sufficient forces on the border.
I'd like to be proven wrong on this. But... ... by delaying the invasion (almost certainly due to demands by the biden administration), the Israelis have lost something very important to them: Their "moral right" to conduct a defensive military operation.
I'll explain. Had Israel gone into Gaza with their army within, say, 48-72 hours of the 10/7 attack, they would have been seen as executing "defensive" maneuvers in the wake of those attacks.
But by "holding back" -- as they've done -- they've now lost their moral claim that the attack they'll mount is "defensive". Rather, it will be "offensive", and painted that way by the world media that dislikes (or outright hates) the Jews. They will transmogrify from the victims into the aggressors.
But there's another reason as well. I've posted it before in recent threads, but no one responds to such posts: It's... "Jewish guilt".
Since the suffering they had to endure in the hands of the Germans, the Jews of Israel have had (for lack of a better term) "a halo of moral superiority". And they've acted accordingly.
This is evidenced by their historical reluctance, even in war zones, to attack where civilian deaths might be involved.
If they were to eschew such behavior, and attack en masse in Gaza in circumstances where civilians (aside: how many pali males can be considered "civilians" when they've been taught from youth to hate the Jews and handle weapons?) will be either targeted or close enough to the targets to become collateral damage, they would LOSE that "moral superiority" that they have embraced (even touted) through the years.
They're afraid to do that. They're held back. By... Jewish guilt: To refrain from inflicting upon others the same wrath that was exercised upon themselves.
That -- along with [either] requests or outright threats by the biden administration, along with "the guilt", will keep them from doing what needs to be done in Gaza.
Again, I'll be happy to be proven wrong on this prediction. And you can hold me to it.
But I call 'em as I see 'em. And that's how I'm calling this one.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 10:34:48 pm
Bullshit!
Lucas Tomlinson @LucasFoxNews · 2h “We’re not dictating terms to the Israel Defense Forces,” John Kirby tells @marthamaccallum
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Post by: sneakypete on October 23, 2023, 10:40:34 pm
That was a typo. It SHOULD have read that Blinken is ready to DO a line.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 10:44:34 pm
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000062300089.jpg?quality=90&strip=all) Yocheved Lifshitz and Nurit Cooper (also known as Nurit Yitzhak) who were held hostages by Palestinian Hamas terrorists, are seen being released.
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000062297468.jpg?resize=2048,1160&quality=90&strip=all) The women, said to be in their 80s, were kidnapped from the Kibbutz Nir Oz, with their husbands still in captivity under Hamas.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 10:48:37 pm
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But by "holding back" -- as they've done -- they've now lost their moral claim that the attack they'll mount is "defensive". Rather, it will be "offensive", and painted that way by the world media that dislikes (or outright hates) the Jews. They will transmogrify from the victims into the aggressors.
Totally agree...that is one reason why Israel released audio/tapes of the Hamas Oct7th attacks today...to refresh peoples outrage..not sure that worked...
FJB
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 10:53:39 pm
Biden is 'pushing Israel to DELAY the ground invasion into Gaza to give more time for talks for Hamas hostages to be released'
Biden trying to buy time to release more than 200 hostages held by Hamas Administration encouraged by release of two Americans on Friday Israel believed to be preparing for imminent ground invasion to destroy Hamas
By Emily Goodin, Senior U.S. Political Reporter
Published: 09:22 EDT, 23 October 2023 | Updated: 14:32 EDT, 23 October 2023
President Joe Biden is pressuring Israel to delay its ground invasion into Gaza in order to buy time to secure the release of more hostages.
Additionally, the Biden administration wants to buy time for more humanitarian aid to reach Palestinians and to prepare for possible attacks on U.S. interests in the region from Iran-backed groups, U.S. officials told The New York Times.
Israeli warplanes have been hitting targets across Gaza ahead of an expected ground invasion into the Hamas-led territory. Israeli officials want to eliminate Hamas - a goal the U.S. supports. Officials, however, worry such an invasion could lead to retaliation from Iran against American interests in the region.
White House spokesman John Kirby did not say the administration was pushing Israel to hold off its ground game but emphasized that America's focus is on the return of the hostages.
more https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12662085/Biden-Israel-DELAY-ground-invasion-Gaza-Hamas-hostages-released.html
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Post by: berdie on October 23, 2023, 10:58:01 pm
berdie wrote: "Israel and Netanyahu's hands are tied. I'm furious as I'm sure they are. This will result in an "unofficial" win for Hamas. And further assaults by them"
Indeed. By not invading promptly, Israel may have already "lost". They may eventually inflict sufficient damage upon hamas. But it will not be "a win" for Israel, and what they gain will come at great cost.
A Fishrrman "hope it won't happen™" prediction: Israel is not going to invade Gaza. Even after amassing sufficient forces on the border.
I'd like to be proven wrong on this. But... ... by delaying the invasion (almost certainly due to demands by the biden administration), the Israelis have lost something very important to them: Their "moral right" to conduct a defensive military operation.
I'll explain. Had Israel gone into Gaza with their army within, say, 48-72 hours of the 10/7 attack, they would have been seen as executing "defensive" maneuvers in the wake of those attacks.
But by "holding back" -- as they've done -- they've now lost their moral claim that the attack they'll mount is "defensive". Rather, it will be "offensive", and painted that way by the world media that dislikes (or outright hates) the Jews. They will transmogrify from the victims into the aggressors.
But there's another reason as well. I've posted it before in recent threads, but no one responds to such posts: It's... "Jewish guilt".
Since the suffering they had to endure in the hands of the Germans, the Jews of Israel have had (for lack of a better term) "a halo of moral superiority". And they've acted accordingly.
This is evidenced by their historical reluctance, even in war zones, to attack where civilian deaths might be involved.
If they were to eschew such behavior, and attack en masse in Gaza in circumstances where civilians (aside: how many pali males can be considered "civilians" when they've been taught from youth to hate the Jews and handle weapons?) will be either targeted or close enough to the targets to become collateral damage, they would LOSE that "moral superiority" that they have embraced (even touted) through the years.
They're afraid to do that. They're held back. By... Jewish guilt: To refrain from inflicting upon others the same wrath that was exercised upon themselves.
That -- along with [either] requests or outright threats by the biden administration, along with "the guilt", will keep them from doing what needs to be done in Gaza.
Again, I'll be happy to be proven wrong on this prediction. And you can hold me to it.
But I call 'em as I see 'em. And that's how I'm calling this one.
I can only disagree with Jewish guilt and halo of morality superiority. Although, I must say I identify with the Israeli moral superiority.
What I see is politics entering into this and destroying momentum. When you are locked into a land you need to defend, surrounded by antagonistic neighbors and risk the alienation of all allies what else can you do?
I agree, they should have gone in immediately. But perhaps the means to do so weren't there without huge casualties on the Israeli side. And I look back at other wars...the response wasn't that instantaneous either.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 11:04:09 pm
Totally agree...that is one reason why Israel released audio/tapes of the Hamas Oct7th attacks today...to refresh peoples outrage..not sure that worked...
FJB
I disagree that Israel is losing their window to respond. Yes, the tapes keep the atrocities fresh in the minds of a public bombarded by sympathy for terrorists in the media. That is good to help focus on the task at hand and the reason for it.
It took from August of 1990 to January of 1991 for the buildup in preparation to liberate Kuwait. While we would like to think Israel is immediately ready to conduct defensive operations, offense takes more planning and preparation, because attackers, especially when the attack is anticipated, are at a disadvantage.
No invasion of enemy held territory is conducted without a buildup of munitions and readying of troops, gathering of intelligence, and planning. (Think Anzio, Operation Torch, D-Day, the Tet Offensive, even the Blitzkreig across Europe. All have the same thing in common.)
The Israelis will be entering territory controlled by their enemy. Anything that can be done to lessen the defensive response needs to be done before that invasion. The hot-blooded quest for revenge is folly, the atrocities stand, and the response needs to be effective, not to sate the sanguineous passions of the civilized world, but to eliminate the threat.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 11:09:42 pm
U.S. officials predict 'significant escalation' against American troops amid Israel-Hamas war
Senior Pentagon officials predicted "significant escalation" of attacks against American troops in the Middle East during the Israel-Hamas war.
A senior defense official and a senior military official held a background briefing on Monday. Both officials referenced Iran as a malignant force.
"We see a prospect for much more significant escalation against U.S. forces and personnel in the near term," the defense official explained. "And let’s be clear about it: the road leads back to Iran."
The defense official also said that the Iranian government is currently equipping, funding and directing various Middle Eastern partners, including Lebanese Hezbollah militia groups.
"I think it’s fair to say when you see this uptick in activity in attacks by many of these groups, there’s Iranian fingerprints all over it," the defense official said.
Fox News Digital's Greg Wehner contributed to this report. Posted by Andrea Vacchiano
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 23, 2023, 11:16:37 pm
U.S. officials predict 'significant escalation' against American troops amid Israel-Hamas war
Senior Pentagon officials predicted "significant escalation" of attacks against American troops in the Middle East during the Israel-Hamas war.
A senior defense official and a senior military official held a background briefing on Monday. Both officials referenced Iran as a malignant force.
"We see a prospect for much more significant escalation against U.S. forces and personnel in the near term," the defense official explained. "And let’s be clear about it: the road leads back to Iran."
The defense official also said that the Iranian government is currently equipping, funding and directing various Middle Eastern partners, including Lebanese Hezbollah militia groups.
"I think it’s fair to say when you see this uptick in activity in attacks by many of these groups, there’s Iranian fingerprints all over it," the defense official said.
Fox News Digital's Greg Wehner contributed to this report. Posted by Andrea Vacchiano
Iran is the reason for China's presence. That's one of the major sources of oil imported by the Chinese. They will view Iran's health as a national interest. Just leave the oilfields out of it, and the Chinese have less excuse to attack anyone.
I see the possibility that Iran attacks Israel more directly, Israel strikes back, China strikes Israel, and the US gets sucked in to defend against the Chinese attack, inviting a direct Chinese response, not necessarily limited to the Middle East.
That's one way WWIII could very easily get rolling.
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Post by: Kamaji on October 23, 2023, 11:16:49 pm
I disagree that Israel is losing their window to respond. Yes, the tapes keep the atrocities fresh in the minds of a public bombarded by sympathy for terrorists in the media. That is good to help focus on the task at and and the reason for it.
It took from August of 1990 to January of 1991 for the buildup in preparation to liberate Kuwait. While we would like to think Israel is immediately ready to conduct defensive operations, offense takes more planning and preparation, because attackers, especially when the attack is anticipated, are at a disadvantage.
No invasion of enemy held territory is conducted without a buildup of munitions and readying of troops, gathering of intelligence, and planning. (Think Anzio, Operation Torch, D-Day, the Tet Offensive, even the Blitzkreig across Europe. All have the same thing in common.)
The Israelis will be entering territory controlled by their enemy. Anything that can be done to lessen the defensive response needs to be done before that invasion. The hot-blooded quest for revenge is folly, the atrocities stand, and the response needs to be effective, not to sate the sanguineous passions of the civilized world, but to eliminate the threat.
:thumbsup:
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Post by: Texas Yellow Rose on October 23, 2023, 11:26:17 pm
I disagree that Israel is losing their window to respond. Yes, the tapes keep the atrocities fresh in the minds of a public bombarded by sympathy for terrorists in the media. That is good to help focus on the task at and and the reason for it.
It took from August of 1990 to January of 1991 for the buildup in preparation to liberate Kuwait. While we would like to think Israel is immediately ready to conduct defensive operations, offense takes more planning and preparation, because attackers, especially when the attack is anticipated, are at a disadvantage.
No invasion of enemy held territory is conducted without a buildup of munitions and readying of troops, gathering of intelligence, and planning. (Think Anzio, Operation Torch, D-Day, the Tet Offensive, even the Blitzkreig across Europe. All have the same thing in common.)
The Israelis will be entering territory controlled by their enemy. Anything that can be done to lessen the defensive response needs to be done before that invasion. The hot-blooded quest for revenge is folly, the atrocities stand, and the response needs to be effective, not to sate the sanguineous passions of the civilized world, but to eliminate the threat.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 23, 2023, 11:33:18 pm
Why Israeli Officials Screened Footage of the Hamas Attack
“I killed 10 Jews with my own hands.” By Graeme Wood October 23, 2023, 10:29 AM ET
This afternoon, at a military base north of Tel Aviv, the Israel Defense Forces held a grisly matinee screening of 43 minutes of raw footage from Hamas’s October 7 attack. Members of the press were invited, but cameras were not allowed. Hamas had the opposite policy on cameras during the attack, which it documented gleefully with its fighters’ body cams and mobile phones. Some of the clips had been circulating already on social media in truncated or expurgated form, with the footage decorously stopped just before beheadings and moments of death. After having seen them both in raw and trimmed forms, I can endorse the decision to trim those clips. I certainly hope I never see any of the extra footage again.
It was, as IDF Major General Mickey Edelstein told the press afterward, “a very sad movie.” Men, women, and children are shot, blown up, hunted, tortured, burned, and generally murdered in any horrible manner you could predict, and some that you might not. The terrorists surround a Thai man they have shot in the gut, then bicker about what to do next. (About 30,000 Thais live in Israel, many of them farmworkers.) “Give me a knife!” one Hamas terrorist shouts. Instead he finds a garden hoe, and he swings at the man’s throat, taking thwack after thwack.
The audience gasped. I heard someone heave a little at another scene, this one showing a father and his young sons, surprised in their pajamas. A terrorist throws a grenade into their hiding place, and the father is killed. The boys are covered in blood, and one appears to have lost an eye. They go to their kitchen and cry for their mother. One of the boys howls, “Why am I alive?” and “Daddy, Daddy.” One says, “I think we are going to die.” The terrorist who killed their father comes in, and while they weep, he raids their fridge. “Water, water,” he says. The spokesman was unable to say whether the children survived.
more https://web.archive.org/web/20231023154942/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/why-israeli-officials-screened-footage-hamas-attack/675735/
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Post by: Free Vulcan on October 23, 2023, 11:34:53 pm
Iran is the reason for China's presence. That's one of the major sources of oil imported by the Chinese. They will view Iran's health as a national interest. Just leave the oilfields out of it, and the Chinese have less excuse to attack anyone.
I see the possibility that Iran attacks Israel more directly, Israel strikes back, China strikes Israel, and the US gets sucked in to defend against the Chinese attack, inviting a direct Chinese response, not necessarily limited to the Middle East.
That's one way WWIII could very easily get rolling.
That's another scary possibly is that no one is really pulling the strings, it just erupts like a bar brawl
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 23, 2023, 11:37:03 pm
That's another scary possibly is that no one is really pulling the strings, it just erupts like a bar brawl
All the elements are there, which is why this needs to be de-escalated and to let the Israelis and Hamas have it out.
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Post by: DB on October 24, 2023, 12:23:37 am
The delays could also be to allow time to get US assets in the area.
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 24, 2023, 01:07:08 am
Just remembered it's 4AM in Israel right now.
Sunrise in 3 hours. :pondering:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 01:15:46 am
U.S. Marine Corps General Advising IDF on Gaza Operation
By Zach Kessel
October 23, 2023 3:11 PM
President Joe Biden has reportedly sent a small number of high-level United States military officers to Israel, including James Glynn, a three-star Marine Corps lieutenant general. Glynn previously commanded the Marine Corps’s special operations unit and led Operation Inherent Resolve, the coalitional war against the Islamic State, from July 2017 to July 2018.
The news came after an interview secretary of state Antony Blinken gave to CBS on Sunday in which he said the U.S. government is assisting Israel in its preparation for an expected ground operation in Gaza. Israel has been preparing for such an offensive — which Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has acknowledged will be difficult — since Hamas launched an unprecedented large-scale attack on the Jewish state on October 7.
The U.S. military officers will not run the Gaza offensive but will provide advice based on experience combatting ISIS in Iraq, according to Axios, which first reported the deployment.
The Biden administration has urged Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to delay the ground invasion into Gaza in order to buy more time to secure the release of hostages and to keep humanitarian aid flowing into the strip, the New York Times reported.
more https://www.nationalreview.com/news/u-s-marine-corps-general-advising-idf-on-gaza-operation/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 01:16:36 am
No..I am just contemplating your post....are you expecting something to happen?
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Just remembered it's 4AM in Israel right now.
Sunrise in 3 hours.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 01:38:53 am
This is rich considering this is coming from the same people who arranged the Afghanistan withdrawal
OSINTdefender @sentdefender Senior Officials in the Biden Administration have stated that they are Worried that Israel does not have “Achievable Goals” for its Ground Invasion of Gaza and that the Israeli Defense Force does not yet have a War Plan to conduct these Operations; they further stated that some Members of the Administration are even Skeptical about the IDFs ability to Militarily Destroy the Hamas Organization.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 01:40:07 am
No..I am just contemplating your post....are you expecting something to happen?
Yeah...I'm feeling these sudden chills going ...geez I don't know if they're going UP or DOWN!
But feeling some apprehension after reading @Smokin Joe 's I believe pointing out China needing oil from Iran and wondering how far they would go...couldn't they buy it from Joe Biden? His friend Vladimir Putin?
Feel like a Tom Clancy or Robert Ludlum novel coming to life right now. Kind of scary...and so damned unnecessary.
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Post by: Hoodat on October 24, 2023, 01:50:03 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender Senior Officials in the Biden Administration have stated that they are Worried that Israel does not have “Achievable Goals” for its Ground Invasion of Gaza and that the Israeli Defense Force does not yet have a War Plan to conduct these Operations; they further stated that some Members of the Administration are even Skeptical about the IDFs ability to Militarily Destroy the Hamas Organization.
Idiots. Keep your f'n mouths shut. These people are worse than amateurs.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 01:53:21 am
Yeah...I'm feeling these sudden chills going ...geez I don't know if they're going UP or DOWN!
But feeling some apprehension after reading @Smokin Joe 's I believe pointing out China needing oil from Iran and wondering how far they would go...couldn't they buy it from Joe Biden? His friend Vladimir Putin?
Feel like a Tom Clancy or Robert Ludlum novel coming to life right now. Kind of scary...and so damned unnecessary.
I'll admit..I am scared..if it was any other Administration I would feel better...
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 24, 2023, 02:17:07 am
I'll admit..I am scared..if it was any other Administration I would feel better...
We have a tone deaf clown show populated by appointees who can hide from accusations of incompetence behind counter accusations of racism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, or whatever other modern ill they have constructed, running point on a sh*tshow that needs a deft hand to not erupt into global conflict while we are providing (hopefully) primarily moral support. Not to mention having been invaded by millions of military aged men, about whom we haven't a clue, as to location, intent, or affiliation.
What could possibly go wrong?
It is in God's hands. I absolutely believe He knows what He is doing.
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 24, 2023, 02:28:55 am
If I knew that I'd be pulling down six figures at some DOD think tank.
I can guess, of course, that Iran's theocracy is all behind "Death to the Jews" and "Death to the infidels!" (meaning, especially, Americans, but Christians in particular). Their hatred for all not their flavor of Muslim will be their downfall.
On the way to that, they have materially, financially, and otherwise supported terrorist groups which wage that war from the shadows while taking advantage of Western naivete to continue development of nuclear weapons and likely, in conjunction with the North Koreans, who may be acting as a Chinese proxy, delivery systems as well, even for the limited range needed in the Middle East and European theater.
Once they have that, there is really little to deter them from deploying those weapons except being sent to their 72 virgins a little earlier than they wanted.
It gets sticky when Israel would respond in kind to any such attack, with the Chinese in the area who can credibly claim that a major source of oil for China is a "national Interest" they must protect. I'm not really how sure how much they could deter any Iranian aggression, especially if the Iranians felt they could prevail in an exchange or a preemptive strike.
However, if such were to appear imminent, the use of conventional forces by Israel to prevent it would be seen as an act of aggression against Chinese 'National Interests', and they might become involved. If that were to happen, chances are very good that the US would get sucked into the fracas, one way or another.
The trick is to be there, but stay out of it directly, and let Israel maintain that it is doing whatever it is doing for defensive reasons, something most western governments will likely support. Finesse is called for to prevent an expanding conflict, and Iran is the wild card.
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Post by: 240B on October 24, 2023, 06:53:56 am
Released hostage Yocheved Lifshitz, 85, said Tuesday she “went through hell” during her abduction by rampaging Hamas terrorists, being moved though a “spiderweb” of muddy tunnels before starting more than two weeks as a captive in Gaza.
AFP reports Lifshitz was a resident of Nir Oz kibbutz, one of the Israeli communities near the Gaza Strip which Hamas militants brutally attacked on October 7.
Some 180 of the kibbutz’s 400 residents were killed or abducted in the raid which left mass rape, torture and the slaughter of civilians in its wake.
more https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/24/freed-israeli-says-she-went-though-hell-in-hamas-terrorist-attack-forcibly-moved-to-gaza-captivity-via-spiderweb-of-tunnels/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 01:06:10 pm
French President Macron Calls for International ‘Coalition’ to Combat Hamas
In a speech from Jerusalem, French President Emmanuel Macron called for an international “coalition” to combat terrorist groups like Hamas.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 01:28:37 pm
IDF makes direct appeal to Palestinians for information on hostages
The Israel Defense Forces said Tuesday it has dropped leaflets in the Gaza Strip making a direct appeal to Palestinians to provide Israel with information on captives held by Hamas.
“If you want a better future for you and your children, take action and provide us with solid and useful information as soon as possible regarding the hostages in your area,” the leaflet reads.
The Israelis are offering protection and even a monetary award to any Palestinian who comes forward with verifiable information leading to the rescue of an Israeli hostage.
“The Israeli army assures you that it will put forth maximum effort to provide you and your home with security, as well as a financial reward,” the leaflet says, guaranteeing "complete confidentiality."
The message contains a QR code, phone number and contact info on Telegram, WhatsApp and Signal for those with information to confidentially share it with the Israelis.
Fox News' Trey Yingst contributed to this update. Posted by Chris Pandolfo
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 01:29:40 pm
Obama says any Israeli military strategy that ignores human costs 'could ultimately backfire'
Former President Obama is warning that any strategy the Israeli military takes in its war against Hamas that ignores the danger to civilians "could ultimately backfire."
Obama made the remark in a lengthy statement posted on Medium, where he said "Israel has a right to defend its citizens against such wanton violence" perpetrated by the Palestinian terrorist group and that he fully supports "President Biden’s call for the United States to support our long-time ally in going after Hamas, dismantling its military capabilities, and facilitating the safe return of hundreds of hostages to their families."
"Still, the world is watching closely as events in the region unfold, and any Israeli military strategy that ignores the human costs could ultimately backfire," Obama said. "Already, thousands of Palestinians have been killed in the bombing of Gaza, many of them children. Hundreds of thousands have been forced from their homes.
"The Israeli government’s decision to cut off food, water and electricity to a captive civilian population threatens not only to worsen a growing humanitarian crisis; it could further harden Palestinian attitudes for generations, erode global support for Israel, play into the hands of Israel’s enemies, and undermine long term efforts to achieve peace and stability in the region," he added.
The comments come as Israel has built up its military presence along the Gaza border ahead of a possible ground invasion into the territory.
Fox News' Greg Norman contributed to this update. Posted by Chris Pandolfo
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Post by: 240B on October 24, 2023, 01:38:20 pm
Still better than electing Trump! I don't care if I die. If all of my friends and families all die. I would still NEVER VOTE FOR TRUMP! Reality, Death, it is all better than Trump!
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 01:44:21 pm
Israeli forces strikes over 400 terrorist targets in 24-hour By Richard Pollina
The IDF shared that they have struck over 400 terrorist targets over the past 24 hours.
The targets taken out by the IDF include "Hamas gunmen setting up to fire rockets in Israel's direction, an operational tunnel shaft allowing Israel to be infiltrated through the sea, and Hamas command centers and staging armaments in Mosques," the branch wrote on X.
"The IDF will continue operating in order to ensure the safety of innocent civilians."
Tuesday marked the 18th day of Israel's counteroffensive against Hamas since the attacks on Israel on Oct. 7. NYPost
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Post by: 240B on October 24, 2023, 02:06:11 pm
Reconquista!
It is unusual, but all I am getting from the EU, and Europe in general is "reconquista". Apparently they are now ready to 'take back' what always belonged to them from the beginning.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 02:24:32 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 02:31:46 pm
*hmmmm*
Lucas Tomlinson @LucasFoxNews · 41m Pentagon deputy spokeswoman asked if U.S. has told Israel to delay Gaza ground offensive: “It’s really up to them to decide when to move forward with any type of incursion. That’s not really our place to say,” she tells
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 02:33:01 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 02:34:57 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 24m At least 12 Explosions reported over the City of Tel Aviv as the Iron Dome attempts to Interpret a number of Rockets launched from Gaza.
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 27m This might be the Largest Rocket Attack from Gaza since the beginning few Days of the War.
Still better than electing Trump! I don't care if I die. If all of my friends and families all die. I would still NEVER VOTE FOR TRUMP! Reality, Death, it is all better than Trump!
LOL! As @Bigun said to me the other day..."You're so FOS, your eyes are brown!" happy77
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 02:37:43 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 02:56:07 pm
Female IDF combat squad claims to have killed 100 Hamas terrorists: ‘A strong squad’ By Isabel Keane Published Oct. 24, 2023, 8:46 a.m. ET
An Israel Defense Forces unit made up entirely of female troops eliminated nearly 100 Hamas terrorists, according to their commander — who cited it as proof there “are no more doubts about female combat soldiers.”
Israeli Caracal Battalion commander Lt.-Col. Or Ben-Yehuda praised the unit for their bravery in the southern Gaza Strip where they took down approximately 100 Hamas terrorists, The Jerusalem Post reported.
After the fighting broke out on Oct. 7, Ben-Yehuda received a message reporting an infiltration of heavily armed terrorists near Sufa and Nirim and told her soldiers: “We are going out to eliminate terrorists. Infiltration into Israel is happening, and it’s spreading.”
“Stay alert. We might cross paths. We are a strong squad,” she told her unit as they headed to Sufa.
Combat between the female battalion and the terrorists lasted nearly four hours and included large firefights. It took the IDF about 14 hours altogether to secure the base.
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000062317289.jpg?quality=75&strip=all) Israeli Caracal Battalion commander Lt.-Col. Or Ben-Yehuda praised her unit for their bravery in taking on Hamas.
The female soldiers under her command have made significant contributions to the war effort, Ben-Yehuda said.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/24/news/female-idf-squad-claims-to-have-killed-100-hamas-terrorists/
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 24, 2023, 03:27:18 pm
NONE of this crap going on around the world....UKRAINE, IRAN, HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH and all the assorted "WOKENESS" would have happened had the election in 2020 not been stolen in the middle of the night.
Educate yourselves.
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Post by: corbe on October 24, 2023, 03:35:47 pm
NONE of this crap going on around the world....UKRAINE, IRAN, HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH and all the assorted "WOKENESS" would have happened had the election in 2020 not been stolen in the middle of the night.
Educate yourselves.
Educate myself in WHAT @DCPatriot ~ ETS (Endless Trumper Speculation)
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Lando Lincoln on October 24, 2023, 03:52:12 pm
Female IDF combat squad claims to have killed 100 Hamas terrorists: ‘A strong squad’ By Isabel Keane Published Oct. 24, 2023, 8:46 a.m. ET
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000062317289.jpg?quality=75&strip=all) Israeli Caracal Battalion commander Lt.-Col. Or Ben-Yehuda praised her unit for their bravery in taking on Hamas.
The female soldiers under her command have made significant contributions to the war effort, Ben-Yehuda said.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/24/news/female-idf-squad-claims-to-have-killed-100-hamas-terrorists/
I can't imagine the horrors that would await them if they were captured in combat.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 03:56:26 pm
US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken calls on Hamas to stop using civilians as 'human shields' at UN By Samuel Chamberlain
US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken made the following remarks at the UN: "While Israel has the right -- indeed, the obligation -- to defend itself, the way it does so matters. We know Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people, and Palestinian civilians are not to blame for the carnage committed by Hamas. Palestinian civilians must be protected. That means Hamas must cease using them as human shields. It's hard to think of an act of greater cynicism."
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 03:57:38 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 44m · The U.S. Maritime Administration has now released a Warning to any Ships moving throughout the Red Sea to be on Alert for Airborne Missiles and Drones over the Region due to the ongoing War in Israel and possible future launches by the Houthis in Yemen.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 03:58:24 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 04:06:56 pm
US Secretary of State says civilian lives must be protected at UN By Samuel Chamberlain
US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken made the following remarks at the UN: "The United States has committed an additional $100 million in humanitarian assistance to Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, bringing the total aid that we've provided to the Palestinian people in the past two and a half years to more than $1.6 billion. That makes the United States the largest single-country donor by far to the Palestinian people."
"At the heart of our efforts to save innocent lives in this conflict, and in every conflict, for that matter, is our core belief that every civilian life is equally valuable. There is no hierarchy when it comes to protecting civilian lives. A civilian is a civilian is a civilian, no matter his or her nationality, ethnicity, age, gender, faith. That's why America mourns the loss of every single innocent life in this crisis, including innocent Israeli and Palestinian men, women children, elderly people, Muslims, Jews, Christians, people of all nationalities and faiths, including at least 35 UN staff members."
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 04:10:34 pm
*** WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT *** ‘This Is the Gate of Hell’: Israeli Forensic Team Shows Media Bodies of Hundreds of Hamas Terror Victims
SHURA MILITARY BASE, Ramle, Israel — “This is the gate of hell.” That is how Gilat Bahat, an officer in the Israeli Police, describes the effort to identify the victims of the October 7 attack by the Palestinian terror group Hamas.
more https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/24/warning-graphic-content-this-is-the-gate-of-hell-israeli-forensic-team-shows-media-bodies-of-hundreds-of-victims/
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Post by: GtHawk on October 24, 2023, 04:31:06 pm
Female IDF combat squad claims to have killed 100 Hamas terrorists: ‘A strong squad’ By Isabel Keane Published Oct. 24, 2023, 8:46 a.m. ET
An Israel Defense Forces unit made up entirely of female troops eliminated nearly 100 Hamas terrorists, according to their commander — who cited it as proof there “are no more doubts about female combat soldiers.”
Israeli Caracal Battalion commander Lt.-Col. Or Ben-Yehuda praised the unit for their bravery in the southern Gaza Strip where they took down approximately 100 Hamas terrorists, The Jerusalem Post reported.
After the fighting broke out on Oct. 7, Ben-Yehuda received a message reporting an infiltration of heavily armed terrorists near Sufa and Nirim and told her soldiers: “We are going out to eliminate terrorists. Infiltration into Israel is happening, and it’s spreading.”
“Stay alert. We might cross paths. We are a strong squad,” she told her unit as they headed to Sufa.
Combat between the female battalion and the terrorists lasted nearly four hours and included large firefights. It took the IDF about 14 hours altogether to secure the base.
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000062317289.jpg?quality=75&strip=all) Israeli Caracal Battalion commander Lt.-Col. Or Ben-Yehuda praised her unit for their bravery in taking on Hamas.
The female soldiers under her command have made significant contributions to the war effort, Ben-Yehuda said.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/24/news/female-idf-squad-claims-to-have-killed-100-hamas-terrorists/
And I'll bet you not a single one of these Israeli women has anything dangling twixt their thighs.......unlike in America.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 04:34:47 pm
Lucas Tomlinson @LucasFoxNews In Tel Aviv Sunday, Sen. Richard Blumenthal said Iran gave the ‘green light’ to Hamas to launch the Oct. 7 massacre.
Pentagon deputy spokesman asked by @BillHemmer for her reaction: “We're still doing our own analysis of that, but there is no question there is a clear thread between the two.”
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: GtHawk on October 24, 2023, 04:36:07 pm
US Secretary of State says civilian lives must be protected at UN By Samuel Chamberlain
US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken made the following remarks at the UN: "The United States has committed an additional $100 million in humanitarian assistance to Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, bringing the total aid that we've provided to the Palestinian people in the past two and a half years to more than $1.6 billion. That makes the United States the largest single-country donor by far to the Palestinian people."
"At the heart of our efforts to save innocent lives in this conflict, and in every conflict, for that matter, is our core belief that every civilian life is equally valuable. There is no hierarchy when it comes to protecting civilian lives. A civilian is a civilian is a civilian, no matter his or her nationality, ethnicity, age, gender, faith. That's why America mourns the loss of every single innocent life in this crisis, including innocent Israeli and Palestinian men, women children, elderly people, Muslims, Jews, Christians, people of all nationalities and faiths, including at least 35 UN staff members."
That's awesome how American taxpayers are the number one backer of Hamas's arms procurements.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 04:38:28 pm
UN Secretary-General appears to sympathize with Hamas, says terror attacks 'did not happen in a vacuum' By David Spector
Israeli officials are furious after UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres appeared to give credence Hamas' catastrophic surprise terrorist attack on their nation, which has resulted in over 1,400 deaths and 200 kidnappings -- including of elderly and children-- the burning and mutilation of babies, women's battered bodies being dragged through the streets, and over 5,000 wounded in their country.
“It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum,” Guterres said.
The UN Secretary-General went on to say “The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation, ” and that their land has been "devoured by settlements," The Times of Israel reports.
Guterres ended his remarks by saying "the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks by Hamas," before saying that the terror group's "appalling" actions can not "justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.”
Guterres remarks were met with widespread outcry by Israeli officials.
Israeli envoy to the UN Gilad Erdan said the Secretary-General's "shocking... horrible," remarks "constitute a justification for terrorism and murder."
Erdan went on to lambast the UN head saying he is " totally detached from the reality of our region.”
Foreign Minister Eli Cohen spoke out against the UN chief at a special Security Council session saying “Mr. Secretary General, in what world do you live?”
Cohen went on to play a recording of a Palestinian terrorist bragging of killing 10 Jews.
Cohen canceled a planned meeting with Guterres, and Israeli minister Benny Gantz said the UN head's comments constitute "dark times" and slammed him claiming he "condones terror."
This is a developing story
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Kamaji on October 24, 2023, 04:40:19 pm
US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken calls on Hamas to stop using civilians as 'human shields' at UN By Samuel Chamberlain
US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken made the following remarks at the UN: "While Israel has the right -- indeed, the obligation -- to defend itself, the way it does so matters. We know Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people, and Palestinian civilians are not to blame for the carnage committed by Hamas. Palestinian civilians must be protected. That means Hamas must cease using them as human shields. It's hard to think of an act of greater cynicism."
Actually, Hamas does represent them.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 05:04:01 pm
Israeli military takes out 3 Hamas deputy commanders in Gaza Strip
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 24, 2023, 05:13:03 pm
*** WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT *** ‘This Is the Gate of Hell’: Israeli Forensic Team Shows Media Bodies of Hundreds of Hamas Terror Victims
SHURA MILITARY BASE, Ramle, Israel — “This is the gate of hell.” That is how Gilat Bahat, an officer in the Israeli Police, describes the effort to identify the victims of the October 7 attack by the Palestinian terror group Hamas.
I don't understand this Israeli strategy.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Fishrrman on October 24, 2023, 05:17:47 pm
Well... have the Israelis invaded Gaza yet?
We've gone from "Six Day War" into "Sixteen Day Wait"
... with no invasion in sight. If they don't go in by the end of the week, my prediction is... they won't go in.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: DCPatriot on October 24, 2023, 05:21:07 pm
Maybe they realize the news cycle runs 24 hours...and they themselves are about to mangle people with artillery and want the general public to have a fresh image of what started all of this, October 7th. :shrug:
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 05:24:49 pm
Hamas Happily Filmed Their Slaughter of Innocents. So Israel Showed It All to Journalists. Guy Benson
Editor's Note: Extreme Content Warning, throughout this entire post.
That this heinous screening was even necessary is a testament to the virulence of the anti-Israel propaganda machine. Within hours of the October 7 massacre, 'pro-Palestine' forces were openly justifying and celebrating the Jew butchery. Such depravity has continued for weeks, with another anti-Semitic tactic being folded into the mix: Holocaust-denial-style 'questioning' of whether the horrors really even took place. The Israelis had made it up, some started to argue. The Israelis had exaggerated the specifics, others said, openly doubting whether women had been raped, and asserting that babies had not been beheaded. So widespread was this attempted white-washing -- an obvious effort to tamp down public sympathy for Israel, and to weaken support for the Jewish state's military response -- that many people now believe the baby decapitation detail is a 'debunked myth.' In fact, it's a gut-wrenching reality:
more https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2023/10/24/horror-show-israel-shows-journalists-raw-footage-of-hamas-filming-their-slaughter-n2630230
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 24, 2023, 05:25:50 pm
US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken made the following remarks at the UN: "While Israel has the right -- indeed, the obligation -- to defend itself, the way it does so matters.
We know Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people, and Palestinian civilians are not to blame for the carnage committed by Hamas. Palestinian civilians must be protected. That means Hamas must cease using them as human shields. It's hard to think of an act of greater cynicism."
Isn't there one of relatively equivalent cynicism?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 05:25:55 pm
Maybe they realize the news cycle runs 24 hours...and they themselves are about to mangle people with artillery and want the general public to have a fresh image of what started all of this, October 7th. :shrug:
Yep...after all it's been 16 days...what is the average attention span....?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 24, 2023, 05:37:46 pm
Hamas Happily Filmed Their Slaughter of Innocents. So Israel Showed It All to Journalists. Guy Benson
Editor's Note: Extreme Content Warning, throughout this entire post.
That this heinous screening was even necessary is a testament to the virulence of the anti-Israel propaganda machine. Within hours of the October 7 massacre, 'pro-Palestine' forces were openly justifying and celebrating the Jew butchery.
Maybe they realize the news cycle runs 24 hours...and they themselves are about to mangle people with artillery and want the general public to have a fresh image of what started all of this, October 7th. :shrug:
When does Israel turn its focus from victim to victor? @DCPatriot
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: DCPatriot on October 24, 2023, 05:48:01 pm
Given the state of anti-Semitism around the globe...reaching deep into our academia here at home, Israel has to be "Ethan Hawke" from Mission Impossible and cover for any possible surprise.
And that includes public persona.
I won't look at those pics or videos. I adore little children/babies too much and also the love that exudes from the new parents. Cannot imagine what those poor souls endured before they breathed their last.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 05:49:52 pm
I thought there was something like that. Fine, on an international front, but leave Gaza to the Israelis. Any other powers entering on an official overt (and not Spec Ops covert targeted objective) basis would be an excuse for Iran to step in, and drag their pals in with them.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 05:53:27 pm
I imagine all the protests around the world had something to do with releasing these videos.
I will be surprised if there is a ground war at all...I think this constant bombing is the *war*....I hope I am wrong.. :shrug:
FJB
Hmmm...my sixth sense says they're going in. But they're going to ensure their military on the ground can be more of a mop-up operation.
All I know is...they show me a video of them laughing while they behead a baby/toddler in front of their parents???
I don't give a damn if the Pope himself was being used a shield. He's as good as DEAD. Get on with it!!
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 06:30:15 pm
Nolte: Majority Aged 18-24 Say Hamas Massacre of Israeli Civilians ‘Justifed’
Polling shows that a majority of those aged 18-24 believe that Hamas’s massacre of 1,200 Israeli civilians in Israel was “justified.”
Buy guns, America…
In the immortal words of Keanu Reeves: Lots and lots of guns.
This Harvard Caps Harris Poll was taken before the death toll increased to 1,400.
Does anyone have any more questions about how something like the Holocaust could happen?
The poll asked, “Do you think the Hamas killing of 1200 Israeli civilians [in] Israel can be justified by the grievances of Palestinians or is it not justified?” And…
A slim majority of those aged 18-24 said it was “justified.” Only 49 percent said the massacre was “not justified.”
more https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/24/nolte-majority-aged-18-24-say-hamas-massacre-of-israeli-civilians-justifed/
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Kamaji on October 24, 2023, 06:31:29 pm
Nolte: Majority Aged 18-24 Say Hamas Massacre of Israeli Civilians ‘Justifed’
Polling shows that a majority of those aged 18-24 believe that Hamas’s massacre of 1,200 Israeli civilians in Israel was “justified.”
Buy guns, America…
In the immortal words of Keanu Reeves: Lots and lots of guns.
This Harvard Caps Harris Poll was taken before the death toll increased to 1,400.
Does anyone have any more questions about how something like the Holocaust could happen?
The poll asked, “Do you think the Hamas killing of 1200 Israeli civilians [in] Israel can be justified by the grievances of Palestinians or is it not justified?” And…
A slim majority of those aged 18-24 said it was “justified.” Only 49 percent said the massacre was “not justified.”
more https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/24/nolte-majority-aged-18-24-say-hamas-massacre-of-israeli-civilians-justifed/
And that, dear friends, is the very same road that Weimar Germany trod down in the 1920s and 1930s.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 24, 2023, 06:41:45 pm
Nolte: Majority Aged 18-24 Say Hamas Massacre of Israeli Civilians ‘Justifed’
Polling shows that a majority of those aged 18-24 believe that Hamas’s massacre of 1,200 Israeli civilians in Israel was “justified"
more https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/24/nolte-majority-aged-18-24-say-hamas-massacre-of-israeli-civilians-justifed/
FTA:
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Why?
The answer to this question is as frightening as the poll results.
These idiots believe Israel is the oppressor and Gaza is the oppressed. That’s not even true. Israel has nothing to do with running Gaza. But even if it were true, millions of American young people still believe that indiscriminate war crimes and atrocities are justified against an “oppressor.”
For many kids, Israel is Goliath and Palestine is David.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 06:48:48 pm
Israel Prepared To Stall Gaza Assault For Negotiations Over Hostage Release
Jake Smith Contributor October 24, 2023 12:27 PM ET
Israel is willing to delay its ground invasion of the Gaza Strip for a few days to permit negotiations on the release of hostages Hamas is currently holding, which could give the Israel Defense Force (IDF) extra time to formulate an assault plan.
Hamas kidnapped over 200 civilians during a mass terrorist attack against Israel that has killed over 1,400 Israelis since Oct. 7. Israel has launched airstrikes into Gaza and is prepping for a ground assault to root out the terror group completely, but is willing to temporarily hold off for discussions to take place on Hamas releasing a “big” number of hostages, according to Israeli officials who spoke to Axios.
“Both Israel and the Biden administration want to exhaust every effort to try and get hostages out of Gaza,” a high-level Israeli official told Axios. “If Hamas proposes a big package, of course we will be ready to do things in return.”
more https://dailycaller.com/2023/10/24/israel-gaza-hostage-release/
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 06:50:48 pm
Hamas terrorist brags to parents about massacring Israeli civilians in sickening audio: 'Your son killed Jews' By David Spector
Sickening audio of a Hamas terrorist calling his parents to brag after slaughtering 10 Israelis during the terror group's October 7 surprise attack, which killed the most Jews in one day since the Holocaust, was played at the UN by Israeli Foreign Minister Eli Cohen.
The terrorist claimed to be calling his father on a cellphone of a woman he just murdered, and told them to go to WhatsApp to see images of the massacre.
"Look how many I killed with my own hands! Your son killed Jews ... I killed 10 with my own hands!" the terrorist proclaimed ecstatically.
Israel Prepared To Stall Gaza Assault For Negotiations Over Hostage Release Jake Smith Contributor October 24, 2023 12:27 PM ET
Israel is willing to delay its ground invasion of the Gaza Strip for a few days to permit negotiations on the release of hostages Hamas is currently holding, which could give the Israel Defense Force (IDF) extra time to formulate an assault plan.
Keep in mind, Netanyahu has not once authorized a ground assault.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 24, 2023, 07:09:36 pm
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UN Secretary-General: Hamas attacks did not happen in a vacuum, but after occupation-BARF! Israel National News, Oct 24, 2023
UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres accused Israel of violating international law in its retaliation against the Hamas terrorist organization in the Gaza Strip and called for an immediate truce that would leave the terrorist organization in power after it massacred over 1,400 Israelis in the worst mass killing of Jews since the Holocaust.
"I am deeply concerned about the clear violations of international humanitarian law that we are witnessing in Gaza. Let me be clear: No party to an armed conflict is above international humanitarian law," Guterres said during a Security Council meeting on the Gaza conflict.
"I have condemned unequivocally the horrifying and unprecedented 7 October act of terror by Hamas in Israel," he continued. "Nothing can justify the deliberate killing, injuring, and kidnapping of civilians, or the launching of rockets against civilian targets. All hostages must be treated humanely and released immediately and without conditions."
However, he stated that "it is important to also recognize the attack by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum. The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. They have seen their lands steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence, their economies stifled, their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing."
Guterres called the aid convoys that have entered Gaza from Egypt through the Rafah Crossing in recent days "a drop of aid in an ocean of need. In addition, our UN fuel supplies in Gaza will run out in a matter of days. That would be another disaster."
"To ease epic suffering, make the delivery of aid easier and safer, and facilitate the release of hostages, I reiterate my appeal for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire," he said.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 08:10:37 pm
American troops attacked repeatedly in Middle East as war between Israel and Hamas continues
A Pentagon official announced on Tuesday that U.S. troops in the Middle East have been attacked 13 times in the last week.
The attacks were carried out with rockets and one-way drones. U.S. Department of Defense spokesman Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder explained that, between October 17 and 24, American troops in Iraq were attacked 10 times.
During the same time frame, U.S. troops in Syria were attacked three times.
At a Monday briefing, a senior defense official said that they expected to see a "significant escalation" of attacks against American troops due to the war.
"I think it’s fair to say when you see this uptick in activity in attacks by many of these groups, there’s Iranian fingerprints all over it," the defense official explained.
Fox News Digital's Greg Wehner and Liz Friden contributed to this report. Posted by Andrea Vacchiano
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 08:12:23 pm
Joe Biden: U.S. Committed to ‘Palestinian People’s Right’ to ‘Self-Determination’
The U.S. is committed to the Palestinian people’s right to “self-determination” and “dignity,” President Biden said on Tuesday, weeks after Palestinian terrorist group Hamas murdered an estimated 1,400 people in Israel.
And that, dear friends, is the very same road that Weimar Germany trod down in the 1920s and 1930s.
And we as a Americans have generated about a generation or 2 of rotten, selfish, gullible, self absorbed kids. Still a majority of them endorsing Jewish extermination is about the most unbelievable shocking poll I've seen in some time.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: GtHawk on October 24, 2023, 08:27:12 pm
Joe Biden: U.S. Committed to ‘Palestinian People’s Right’ to ‘Self-Determination’
The U.S. is committed to the Palestinian people’s right to “self-determination” and “dignity,” President Biden said on Tuesday, weeks after Palestinian terrorist group Hamas murdered an estimated 1,400 people in Israel.
Show of hands, please. Are these still "children"? Or... are they now... "targets"?
And this is why not a single Arab/moslem state will take them in, because the next day the Palis might just consider them the enemy because the only thing they know is hate.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 08:35:32 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 08:37:15 pm
Lucas Tomlinson @LucasFoxNews · 2h Isrseli PM Netanyahu addressing elite sapper unit: "We stand before the next stage, it is coming. We have only one mission – to smash Hamas. We will not stop until we complete it."
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 08:39:13 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 19m Arab and Muslim Americans and their allies are criticizing President @JoeBiden 's response to the Israel-Hamas war, asking him to do more to prevent a humanitarian crisis in Gaza or risk losing their support in the 2024 election.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 09:23:53 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 9m Initial Reports from the last hour that the U.S. Base near the Conoco Gas Fields in Northeastern Syria has been Attacked by Rockets once again.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 09:24:58 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mountaineer on October 24, 2023, 09:47:27 pm
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Arab and Muslim Americans and their allies are criticizing President Joe Biden's response to the Israel-Hamas war, asking him to do more to prevent a humanitarian crisis in Gaza or risk losing their support in the 2024 election.
Yeah, I don't think he cares. Specifically, no one in the DNC cares. Muslim votes are irrelevant.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Hoodat on October 24, 2023, 09:55:33 pm
"LGTBQs will no longer be thrown off tall buildings because they no longer have any tall buildings!"
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Fishrrman on October 24, 2023, 10:15:24 pm
From reply 606 above: "Israel Prepared To Stall Gaza Assault For Negotiations Over Hostage Release..."
They've lost this one. At least on the world stage.
If "negotiations" fail, and THEN they invade, they will now be seen as "the aggressors". How long will they receive US and European support when that happens?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 10:32:35 pm
Two dozen American service members injured to attacks on Iraq and Syria bases: CENTCOM
American officials say that 24 U.S. service members were injured by attacks in the Middle East last week.
A spokesperson for the United States Central Command (CENTCOM) told Fox News that the attacks were conducted with drones and rockets.
A drone attack at the al-Tanf garrison in Syria injured 20 American personnel on October 18. The same day, 4 other service members were wounded at the al-Asad base in Iraq.
According to the spokesperson, all affected service members have returned to duty. Some of the personnel may have follow-up appointments for additional treatment.
Fox News' Liz Friden contributed to this report. Posted by Andrea Vacchiano
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 11:19:18 pm
Inside Hamas’ fiendishly ‘calculated’ blueprint for hostage release — and who will be last on list By Olivia Land Published Oct. 24, 2023, 4:44 p.m. ET
Hamas is following a fiendishly “calculated” blueprint in its hostage release to try to curry global favor — and it likely doesn’t include freeing any Israeli soldiers without major quid pro quo, a top expert says.
The move by the Palestinian terrorists to release an American mother and daughter first last week was probably designed to pressure the Biden administration into urging Israel to delay its planned scorched-earth ground invasion of the Gaza Strip to buy time in the hostage crisis, said former FBI agent and hostage-team expert Christopher O’Leary to The Post on Tuesday.
Hamas’ release of another pair of women, two elderly Israelis, late Monday was also a “very calculated” move — this time to try and show the world that it is “a legitimate negotiator with some kind of humanitarian leaning,” O’Leary said – even though the terrorists brutalized women and children during their bloody invasion of Israel on Oct. 7.
After former hostage Yocheved Lifshitz, 85, was released Monday, she revealed that she and a few of her fellow captives were separated from the main group into a smaller room in Hamas’ infamous “spiderweb” of Gaza tunnels.
O’Leary said the move wasn’t surprising.
“Hamas has [probably] bucketed the victims into different groups: women and children, people with medical conditions, dual nationals like Americans, Israeli civilians and Israeli military,” he said.
“You don’t want soldiers mixed with civilians. Because the soldiers are going to be looking for an opportunity to break out or gather information, and they’re going to need more security on them,” he said.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/24/news/inside-hamas-fiendishly-calculated-blueprint-for-hostage-release-and-who-will-be-last-on-list/
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Post by: sneakypete on October 24, 2023, 11:26:00 pm
We have a tone deaf clown show populated by appointees who can hide from accusations of incompetence behind counter accusations of racism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, or whatever other modern ill they have constructed, running point on a sh*tshow that needs a deft hand to not erupt into global conflict while we are providing (hopefully) primarily moral support. Not to mention having been invaded by millions of military aged men, about whom we haven't a clue, as to location, intent, or affiliation.
What could possibly go wrong?
It is in God's hands. I absolutely believe He knows what He is doing.
Pay attention to this post because chances are you will never see me posting it again.
Hat's off to the French President for speaking out!
Given all the ragheads he has in France,plus a super-abundance of airhead leftist French globalists,it took some serious stones for him to make that announcement.
Hell,it has ME saying good things about the French!
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Post by: sneakypete on October 24, 2023, 11:34:09 pm
Still better than electing Trump! I don't care if I die. If all of my friends and families all die. I would still NEVER VOTE FOR TRUMP! Reality, Death, it is all better than Trump!
US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken calls on Hamas to stop using civilians as 'human shields' at UN By Samuel Chamberlain
US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken made the following remarks at the UN: "While Israel has the right -- indeed, the obligation -- to defend itself, the way it does so matters. We know Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people, and Palestinian civilians are not to blame for the carnage committed by Hamas. Palestinian civilians must be protected. That means Hamas must cease using them as human shields. It's hard to think of an act of greater cynicism."
At THIS late date,I have no sympathy for any American Jews still there. Anybody THAT freaking stupid pretty much deserves anything that happens to them.
Yeah,America has an obligation to protect American citizens,even ones in foreign countries,but if there isn't a "line drawn in the sand",there should be.
After all,we ain't their daddy.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 11:43:26 pm
By this late date,the videos should be mostly of bulldozers pushing Arab corpses into burial pits.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 11:45:55 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 11m The Israeli Defense Force has announced that Airstrikes have been carried out tonight against Military Infrastructure and Launch Sites in Western Syria after a Rocket Attack earlier tonight on the Golan Heights.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2023, 11:47:21 pm
I thought there was something like that. Fine, on an international front, but leave Gaza to the Israelis. Any other powers entering on an official overt (and not Spec Ops covert targeted objective) basis would be an excuse for Iran to step in, and drag their pals in with them.
Seems like I have been seeing tv shots and hearing about Arabs murdering innocent,unarmed Jews for the last 50 years,and it is still happening.
Frankly,I am at the point where I not only don't give a squat about other Arab nations joining in,and think it might even be a good thing,because it would give the sane world the excuse we need to wipe those bastards off the face of the planet.
Yeah,I know. Like with rats and roaches,you never get them all,but I am guessing the few that escape and go into hiding will turn VEWY,VEWY QUIET.
NOT going to happen,though,and we all know it.
What IS going to be happening is news stories like this being breaking news 50 years from now.
Islam IS A RELIGION OF WAR AND MURDER OF THE INNOCENTS,AND WILL NEVER END ON IT'S OWN BECAUSE NEW "SOLDIERS" ARE BEING BORN EVERY DAY.
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Post by: Hoodat on October 24, 2023, 11:51:26 pm
So what happened to sending the Eisenhower to the Persian Gulf? Six Coast Guard cutters to face Iran and Hamas? I bet the Saudis are pissed off about that.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 24, 2023, 11:53:36 pm
Nolte: Majority Aged 18-24 Say Hamas Massacre of Israeli Civilians ‘Justifed’
Polling shows that a majority of those aged 18-24 believe that Hamas’s massacre of 1,200 Israeli civilians in Israel was “justified.”
Buy guns, America…
In the immortal words of Keanu Reeves: Lots and lots of guns.
This Harvard Caps Harris Poll was taken before the death toll increased to 1,400.
Does anyone have any more questions about how something like the Holocaust could happen?
The poll asked, “Do you think the Hamas killing of 1200 Israeli civilians [in] Israel can be justified by the grievances of Palestinians or is it not justified?” And…
A slim majority of those aged 18-24 said it was “justified.” Only 49 percent said the massacre was “not justified.”
more https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/24/nolte-majority-aged-18-24-say-hamas-massacre-of-israeli-civilians-justifed/
I am NOT going to give these airheads a "pass" on supporting religious murders,but the truth is I doubt even 1 percent of those students has ever seen an actual murder in their life,and would change their minds rapidly if they just happened to be walking down a street some day in a Jewish neighborhood when some raghead started gunning down,women,children,elderly people soaking up the sun,etc,etc,etc.
Seeing it on tv is NOT going to do it,but seeing someone's brains blown out in "real life" is a whole "nother thang!"
Which means my post is basically useless because 99 percent of those airheads will only see someone murdered in a movie or in a video game.
No thought whatsoever is even given to the relatives on the people murdered,or the great harm this causes them. After all,they see innocent people murdered every day on tv and in movies,and your typical collage-age kid is NOT known for their wisdom.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 12:01:38 am
U.S. positioned F-16s, makes plans to send Iron Dome missile systems to Israel amid Hamas war
The Pentagon is in the planning stages of sending Iron Dome missile defense systems and has positioned F-16 fighter jets as the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) continues battling with Hamas terrorists.
A U.S. Department of Defense official confirmed the latest development to Fox News.
"The U.S. will be flowing additional Iron Dome support to Israel," the defense official said. "As a result, the Department of Defense is currently engaged in planning to support the provision of U.S. Iron Dome batteries to Israel."
"In addition to the capabilities that we've already announced, I can also confirm that the New Jersey Air National Guard's 119th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron arrived within U.S. Central Command’s area of responsibility today with additional F-16 fighting Falcon Squadron bolstering U.S. posture to deter further aggression in the region," a Pentagon official added.
Hamas terrorists have fired 3,000 rockets at Israel since October 7. According to the IDF, Israel's Iron Dome neutralized around 90% of the threats.
The system was first used in 2011. It can detect incoming projectiles from around 40 miles away.
Fox News Digital's Greg Wehner and Liz Friden contributed to this report. Posted by Andrea Vacchiano
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Post by: sneakypete on October 25, 2023, 12:03:54 am
And we as a Americans have generated about a generation or 2 of rotten, selfish, gullible, self absorbed kids. Still a majority of them endorsing Jewish extermination is about the most unbelievable shocking poll I've seen in some time.
What I do believe is this was a carefully selected group of kids from one of the exclusive leftist colleges that had been protected from reality their whole lives,and they voted for it because they were convinced it would make them feel better about themselves.
Sure,there IS a certain percentage that just hate Jews,but I truly believe they are a tiny minority. Most are just airheads,looking to "fit in with the cool kids".
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 12:04:22 am
Exclusive – Former U.K. Commander in Afghanistan: Israel Facing War on 7 Fronts, Arab States ‘Quietly’ Root for Jihadist Defeat
The Jewish state is facing a “hugely complicated” seven-front war against enemies within and beyond its borders — though “virtually all Arab countries” are “quietly cheering” for Israel, according to former commander of British forces in Afghanistan Colonel Richard Kemp, who blamed President Biden for “continuously appeasing” Iran, and called for “the strongest U.S. support for Israel in this conflict,” warning that further American “weakness” could encourage hostile nations to exploit the situation.
more https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/24/exclusive-former-commander-afghanistan-israel-facing-war-fronts-arab-states-quietly-root-jihadist-defeat/
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Post by: sneakypete on October 25, 2023, 12:05:39 am
Lucas Tomlinson @LucasFoxNews · 2h Isrseli PM Netanyahu addressing elite sapper unit: "We stand before the next stage, it is coming. We have only one mission – to smash Hamas. We will not stop until we complete it."
From reply 606 above: "Israel Prepared To Stall Gaza Assault For Negotiations Over Hostage Release..."
They've lost this one. At least on the world stage.
If "negotiations" fail, and THEN they invade, they will now be seen as "the aggressors". How long will they receive US and European support when that happens?
You really DO have to ask yourself "WTF WERE THESE IDIOTS THINKING?",don't you?
I could maybe understand it if this were the first time this had happened,but it's damn near a yearly event now.
AND.....,let's get real,here. It may be the Palestinians doing the murdering and dying,but we ALL know this wouldn't be possible without the cash and other aid they get from other Arab Nations.
Especially Saudi Arabia.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 25, 2023, 12:15:55 am
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Israel demands UN chief resign after he says Hamas attacks ‘did not occur in vacuum’ Times of Israel, Oct 24, 2023
Israeli officials railed at UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres Tuesday after he appeared to suggest the impetus for the Hamas terror group’s devastating October 7 attack on Israel was the Jewish state’s continued control of Palestinian territories, with the Israeli Ambassador to the UN demanding that he resign.
“It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum,” Guterres said at a UN Security Council meeting on the Israel-Hamas war, which erupted when the terror group ravaged Israeli border communities, killing some 1,400 people, the vast majority of them civilians.
“The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence; their economy stifled; their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing,” Guterres said.
Guterres added that “the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks by Hamas. And those appalling attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people,” an apparent reference to Israel’s ongoing campaign of airstrikes in the Gaza Strip that Hamas officials say has killed thousands.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 25, 2023, 12:28:09 am
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US military advisers invoke lessons of Iraq in urging Israelis to avoid all-out ground assault in Gaza CNN, Oct 24, 2023
American military officials are trying to steer Israel away from the type of brutal, urban combat the US engaged in against insurgents during the Iraq War, in an effort to keep the Israelis from getting bogged down in bloody, house-by-house fighting as they prepare for an assault on Gaza, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN.
In helping the Israel Defense Forces game out a number of different strategies to defeat Hamas, US military advisers on the ground in Israel are invoking lessons learned specifically from Fallujah in 2004, one of the bloodiest battles of the Iraq War.
Instead of launching a full-scale ground assault on Gaza, which could endanger hostages, civilians, and further inflame tensions in the region, US military advisers are urging Israelis to use a combination of precision airstrikes and targeted special operations raids.
They are also drawing on strategies developed during the battle by US-led coalition forces to retake the Iraqi city of Mosul from ISIS, which relied more heavily on special operations forces. Like Hamas, ISIS built tunnels throughout Mosul and used civilians as human shields, and the fight to retake the city was harder and more drawn-out than anticipated.
To help deliver this message, the Biden administration has sent a three-star Marine Corps general to counsel the IDF on planning its tactical assault. Gen. James Glynn, the former commander of Marine Forces Special Operations Command, has significant experience with urban warfare in Iraq, particularly in Fallujah, where he commanded troops during some of the bloodiest fighting there between US forces and insurgents, officials said.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 25, 2023, 12:47:53 am
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Netanyahu is tailoring a different World War II analogy to every foreign head of state who visits Israel. Today, he declares that just as the Allies supported the French Resistance, the world is uniting with Israel to fight the new Nazis
Is the info true? If so, there should be hell to pay.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 01:07:52 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender 5 Terrorists with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad are reported to have been Killed by an IAF Airstrike earlier tonight near the City of Jenin in the West Bank; the Terrorists are claimed to have Attacked a number of IDF Troops that were conducting a Raid near the City before they were Liquidated by an Israeli Combat Aircraft.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 01:08:18 am
OSINTdefender reposted Faytuks News Δ @Faytuks · 1h During the last 24 hours, #Israel|i airstrikes have been conducted in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria and the west bank.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 25, 2023, 01:09:41 am
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 01:10:37 am
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 1h A number of Palestinians were injured in an airstrike conducted by the @IDF in the Jenin refugee camp in the northern West Bank early Wednesday morning, according to #Palestinian reports.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 01:11:11 am
Unless Israel has continuous "Eyes in the Sky", the actual fighters that participated are long gone from the region...let alone Gaza Strip.
They utilized their maze of tunnel systems...many more than 22 ft below the surface and come up inside somebody's bedroom closet or the restroom at the petrol station.
The longer they take to respond, the more of them escape.
**** Watched an action movie ...not science fiction, where a drone camera can lock on a subject/target 'forever'. But I doubt it would work 22 ft below ground.
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 25, 2023, 01:24:38 am
h ttps://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1716974678319714792
We all talked about this last evening...far as I'm concerned, Israel should consider the hostages as already 'dead'.
If Hamas is smart they will gain maximum sympathy from the public if they keep them safe & sound.
Imagine when the dust clears, and the collateral damage is observed, they march the hostages out in relatively good health.
...but they're not. that. smart.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 01:34:53 am
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far as I'm concerned, Israel should consider the hostages as already 'dead'.
This is what Mike keeps telling me.
American military has long helped civilians and hostages to the detriment of their own safety....our enemies have not and have no remorse using civilians to their benefit like we are seeing in the ME..this is how they take advantage of us and all civilized people.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 01:40:47 am
9999hair out0000
Pelosi: We Need ‘Humanitarian Pause’ Between Israel, Hamas that Blinken Called for
On Tuesday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “All In,” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) stated that while a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas is a bad idea, “what Secretary Blinken said today at the United Nations, calling for a humanitarian pause in the military action so that we can try to find a more peaceful path, and especially right away, to get more hostages freed,” is the right way to go.
While discussing calls from some Democrats for a ceasefire, Pelosi said, “Well, first, let me just say that our priority right now is to get the hostages freed. I thought that what Secretary Blinken said today at the United Nations, calling for a humanitarian pause in the military action so that we can try to find a more peaceful path, and especially right away, to get more hostages freed, not just American, although, that’s our responsibility, but all the hostages freed — a ceasefire — I think the humanitarian pause is the appropriate way to go. Look, what Hamas did was barbaric in Israel. It was barbaric. It was outside the circle of civilized human behavior. And if it happened to your family, you would want justice. I’m not talking about revenge, I want — I’m saying justice. So, there has to be some other place we go instead of just saying, let’s have a ceasefire. We had a ceasefire in May, that was broken by Hamas on October 7. So, let’s remember that. But there may be a few votes in the caucus who may not support the package, but I think, by and large, it will be overwhelmingly supported.”
American military has long helped civilians and hostages to the detriment of their own safety....our enemies have not and have no remorse using civilians to their benefit like we are seeing in the ME..this is how they take advantage of us and all civilized people.
The internet makes the world so small.
Once videos of hostages' loved ones weeping/raging, it puts the American military at risk.
And EVERYBODY has a smartphone today.
...makes me better appreciate "Kill them all and let God sort it out".
Every Israeli War in my lifetime...in their lifetime was "short and sweet". Their military might and technology surprised even the USA and Soviet Union.
I would think their technology has advanced leaps and bounds since 1973.
NEVER AGAIN!! Words have meaning.
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Post by: 240B on October 25, 2023, 03:12:50 am
We've gone from "Six Day War" into "Sixteen Day Wait"
... with no invasion in sight. If they don't go in by the end of the week, my prediction is... they won't go in.
@Fishrrman I know what you are saying. I have felt the same thing. However ... Israel is taking Gaza down to dust, with bombings. Israel could not have done this six months before. Hamas gave Israel the green light to destroy them.
Now, Israel has a free hand to blow the place into oblivion. Even if Hamas survives, they will rule over a trash dump. Spy soldiers infiltrating. Everything is blown up, gone. When Israel said they will erase Hamas, they will. But it does not necessarily mean what you think it means. Why risk soldiers when the result is the same or better.
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Post by: DB on October 25, 2023, 03:25:35 am
I believe there are larger issues/players involved way beyond Gaza. Tread carefully.
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Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 25, 2023, 04:05:07 am
Wendy Patterson @wendyp4545 · Follow Breaking News: John Kerry outed as another Iranian spy. Kerry has informed Iran of over 200 Israeli covert military operations.
John Kerry should have been hung for treason 50 years ago.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: sneakypete on October 25, 2023, 04:40:46 am
Hamas/PLo/etc,etc,etc are nothing more than expendable pawns on a board that are being used for purposes they don't even understand.
However,do NOT feel sorry for them because they are butchering lunatics on their best day. Even the people behind the scenes that are "playing" them have no respect for them.
If you want to get serious about ending terrorism in the Muddle East as well as in Europe and the US, you are either going to have to forcibly deport immigrants from the Muddle East back to their homelands,or kill them.
There IS no in-between because the murder of innocents is all they know.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: sneakypete on October 25, 2023, 04:42:58 am
John Kerry should have been hung for treason 50 years ago.
True. But remember a spy who declares himself a spy is a good thing. Anything anybody told to Kerry must know that he will carry it to his masters. Anything about anything concerning Israel was just what Israel wanted him to say to Iran.
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Post by: 240B on October 25, 2023, 05:00:25 am
The Gaza terrorists were told they would get $10,000 and a new apartment. This is why they videoed themselves raping children and cutting the heads of infants. They wanted to be recorded, so they could get their reward.
But, the 'reward' never came. All 'apartments' in Gaza are now rubble. $10,000 will now buy a bag full of shit and dead relatives.
Allah hu Akbar! Allah wants you all dead ... that is the way it is going.
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Post by: 240B on October 25, 2023, 05:17:26 am
When you bet your life on Satan giving you a reward. I mean, come on man, he is Satan. He's not going to give you shit.
Death and Destruction, rape and murder is what you worship. It is hard to play the victim ... when it all comes back on you.
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Post by: Elderberry on October 25, 2023, 11:41:08 am
'Enjoy the murder. And also loot': Gaza citizens joined terrorists in Israel attack
WND 10/24/2023
'Just as cruel'
As professional terrorists in Hamas were staging a massacre of innocent Israeli civilians on Oct. 7, a "mob" of "ordinary Palestinians" joined in, delivering a horror that was "just as cruel," a new report confirms.
Videos, eyewitness accounts and the IDF reveal the Gaza residents who followed Hamas terrorists into Israel were mostly "young men with knives, overweight dads, and at least one elderly man on crutches," confirms an investigative report from the Washington Free Beacon.
Rabble "spontaneously" joined the terrorists for an additional wave of atrocities, the report said.
IDF spokesman Jonathan Conricus confirmed to the Washington Free Beacon that large numbers of Gazans who were not members of any terrorist group entered Israel and participated in the atrocities.
"They did what you say they did," he told the publication.
The actual extent of civilians' involvement in the murders of more than 1,000 Israelis isn't clear but the fact it happened has left Israelis living near Gaza convinced, "Coexistence is dead, and Gaza must be crushed," the report said.
"The second wave of Arabs who came into the country were just as cruel as the terrorists of the first wave," Eshkol Regional Council mayor Gadi Yarkoni told the publication. "We saw that it was not only Hamas who came to slaughter us. It was all the residents of Gaza, including people who worked in our kibbutzim."
'Enjoy the murder. And also loot': Gaza citizens joined terrorists in Israel attack
WND 10/24/2023
'Just as cruel'
As professional terrorists in Hamas were staging a massacre of innocent Israeli civilians on Oct. 7, a "mob" of "ordinary Palestinians" joined in, delivering a horror that was "just as cruel," a new report confirms.
Videos, eyewitness accounts and the IDF reveal the Gaza residents who followed Hamas terrorists into Israel were mostly "young men with knives, overweight dads, and at least one elderly man on crutches," confirms an investigative report from the Washington Free Beacon.
Rabble "spontaneously" joined the terrorists for an additional wave of atrocities, the report said.
IDF spokesman Jonathan Conricus confirmed to the Washington Free Beacon that large numbers of Gazans who were not members of any terrorist group entered Israel and participated in the atrocities.
"They did what you say they did," he told the publication.
The actual extent of civilians' involvement in the murders of more than 1,000 Israelis isn't clear but the fact it happened has left Israelis living near Gaza convinced, "Coexistence is dead, and Gaza must be crushed," the report said.
"The second wave of Arabs who came into the country were just as cruel as the terrorists of the first wave," Eshkol Regional Council mayor Gadi Yarkoni told the publication. "We saw that it was not only Hamas who came to slaughter us. It was all the residents of Gaza, including people who worked in our kibbutzim."
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 01:35:26 pm
US shifts tone on Israel-Hamas war as potential ground invasion looms by Alex Gangitano and Brett Samuels - 10/25/23 6:00 AM ET
The Biden administration’s tone has carefully shifted in recent days when it comes to Israel’s response in Gaza, with reports indicating it’s encouraging the delay of a ground invasion in the hopes more hostages could be freed and humanitarian assistance could be let in.
Concerns about a clear, deliverable military objective for Israel in eradicating Hamas have added complexity to what is already a delicate situation as American officials have warned Israeli leaders not to repeat the same mistakes the U.S. did after 9/11.
U.S. officials have also recently characterized Gaza’s future as “left to be defined.” President Biden has already warned an Israeli occupation of Gaza, which is controlled by Hamas, would be a “big mistake” while Israel, in turn, has said it does not plan to control “life in Gaza” but hasn’t indicated who would.
The crisis and all its complexities have plunged the Biden administration into a diplomatic and humanitarian quagmire in it wanting to unequivocally support Israel defending itself while remaining cognizant of a dire humanitarian crisis — all in the shadow of trying to prevent a larger conflict from potentially erupting across the Middle East.
more https://thehill.com/homenews/4272964-us-shifts-tone-on-israel-hamas-war-as-potential-ground-invasion-looms/
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Post by: Fishrrman on October 25, 2023, 01:42:06 pm
Fishrrman and Sergio Leone offer some advice to the Israelis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0aWrDcM988
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 01:50:51 pm
Blinken backs Israel at UNSC but says 'humanitarian pauses must be considered' to protect civilians
"Israel must take all possible precautions to avoid harm to civilians," he said. ByShannon K. Crawford October 24, 2023, 12:57 PM
Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Tuesday delivered a forceful defense of Israel's military actions but said that "humanitarian pauses must be considered" to protect civilians in Gaza -- the administration's strongest statement of a support for any type of halt in Israel's efforts to vanquish Hamas.
"First, we all recognize the right and indeed the imperative states to defend themselves against terrorism. That's why we must unequivocally condemn Hamas and its barbaric terrorist attack against Israel," the secretary began in remarks at the United Nations Security Council, repeating some of the atrocities committed during Hamas' terrorist attack on Israel on Oct. 7.
"Parents executed in front of their children. Children executed in front of their parents. And so many taken hostage in Gaza," he said. "We have to ask -- indeed, it must be asked -- where's the outrage? Where's the revulsion? Where's the rejection? Where's the explicit condemnation of these horrors?"
more https://abcnews.go.com/International/blinken-backs-israel-unsc-humanitarian-pauses-considered-protect/story?id=104253042
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 01:55:02 pm
Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 1m Israeli artillery units very active along the Gaza border today. Heard machine gun fire as well. It comes after Hamas militants tried again yesterday to infiltrate into southern Israel.
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Post by: Bigun on October 25, 2023, 01:55:02 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 02:00:18 pm
Turkey's Erdogan calls Hamas a 'liberation group'
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan referred to Hamas terrorists as a "liberation group" trying to protect the Palestinian people.
In an address to his ruling party’s legislators on Wednesday, Erdogan also said he has canceled plans to visit Israel as part of his country’s policy of normalizing its relations with the Jewish state, adding that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had “misused our goodwill.”
Erdogan sharpened his criticisms of Israel, describing the siege of Gaza as one of the "bloodiest, most disgusting and most savage attacks in history."
“We have no problem with the Israeli state, but we never have, and never will, accept the atrocities committed by Israel and the fact that it acts as an organization rather than a state,” he said.
The Turkish leader called for an immediate cease-fire, for humanitarian aid to be allowed into Gaza and for talks for the release of hostages to begin. He also suggested the establishment of an international peace conference for Israel and the Palestinians.
“All sides must pull their fingers off the trigger, a cease-fire must be declared,” he said.
The Associated Press contributed to this update. Posted by Chris Pandolfo
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 02:13:27 pm
Sick note found on body of Hamas terrorist calls for beheadings, removal of hearts By Yaron Steinbuch Published Oct. 25, 2023, 7:47 a.m. ET
A handwritten note found on the body of a Hamas terrorist encouraged the jihadists to remove the heads, hearts and livers of their Israeli victims, Israel’s military said.
Israel Defense Forces spokesman Brig. Gen. Daniel Hagari was shown the horrific missive by an aide for the first time during an interview with CBS News.
“You must sharpen the blades of your swords and be pure in your intentions before Allah. Know that the enemy is a disease that has no cure, except beheading and removing the hearts and livers. Attack them!” the note reads in Arabic, according to the Jerusalem Post.
The orders came from Hamas leadership, which declared the religious importance of killing Jews and provided inspiration from historical Muslim leaders who massacred men, sold women and children into slavery, and looted cities.
Hagari reacted to the note by stressing the need to vanquish the terror group.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/25/news/note-found-on-body-of-hamas-terrorist-calls-for-beheadings-removal-of-hearts/
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Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 25, 2023, 02:15:43 pm
Sick note found on body of Hamas terrorist calls for beheadings, removal of hearts By Yaron Steinbuch Published Oct. 25, 2023, 7:47 a.m. ET
A handwritten note found on the body of a Hamas terrorist encouraged the jihadists to remove the heads, hearts and livers of their Israeli victims, Israel’s military said.
Israel Defense Forces spokesman Brig. Gen. Daniel Hagari was shown the horrific missive by an aide for the first time during an interview with CBS News.
“You must sharpen the blades of your swords and be pure in your intentions before Allah. Know that the enemy is a disease that has no cure, except beheading and removing the hearts and livers. Attack them!” the note reads in Arabic, according to the Jerusalem Post.
The orders came from Hamas leadership, which declared the religious importance of killing Jews and provided inspiration from historical Muslim leaders who massacred men, sold women and children into slavery, and looted cities.
Hagari reacted to the note by stressing the need to vanquish the terror group.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/25/news/note-found-on-body-of-hamas-terrorist-calls-for-beheadings-removal-of-hearts/
Sick... gross and evil.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 02:19:52 pm
OSINTdefender reposted Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 26m Israeli artillery units very active along the Gaza border today. Heard machine gun fire as well. It comes after Hamas militants tried again yesterday to infiltrate into southern Israel.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 02:20:19 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 02:21:25 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 35m 4 Rocket Launches from Southern Lebanon were Detected roughly 10 minutes ago by the the Israeli Air Defense Array with all of the Rockets said to have fallen into Empty Fields in Northern Israel requiring No Activation from the Iron Dome.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 02:22:08 pm
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George Washington University students project messages in support of Hamas on school library By Melissa Koenig Published Oct. 25, 2023, 9:50 a.m. ET
A group of George Washington University students projected giant antisemitic pro-Hamas messages onto a library less than a mile from the White House.
Photos posted online by watchdog group StopAntisemitism show messages including “Glory to our martyrs” and “Divest from Zionist genocide now” projected onto the side of the Gelman Library for around two hours.
The messages, in giant letters, also included “Free Palestine from the river to the sea,” a rallying cry of Hamas widely interpreted as calling for the annihilation of Israel.
Others read, “GW, the blood of Palestinians is on your hands” and “Your tuition is funding genocide in Gaza,” as well as one accusing university president Ellen Granberg of being “complicit in genocide in Gaza.”
Campus police ultimately ticketed four students who were sitting outside the library with projection equipment, according to video posted to X.
“There’s a time and place for it,” the officer told them.
At that point, one student in a black mask starts arguing with the officer, claiming he and his friends are not violating any student policy or law.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan referred to Hamas terrorists as a "liberation group" trying to protect the Palestinian people.
In an address to his ruling party’s legislators on Wednesday, Erdogan also said he has canceled plans to visit Israel as part of his country’s policy of normalizing its relations with the Jewish state, adding that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had “misused our goodwill.”
Erdogan sharpened his criticisms of Israel, describing the siege of Gaza as one of the "bloodiest, most disgusting and most savage attacks in history."
“We have no problem with the Israeli state, but we never have, and never will, accept the atrocities committed by Israel and the fact that it acts as an organization rather than a state,” he said.
The Turkish leader called for an immediate cease-fire, for humanitarian aid to be allowed into Gaza and for talks for the release of hostages to begin. He also suggested the establishment of an international peace conference for Israel and the Palestinians.
“All sides must pull their fingers off the trigger, a cease-fire must be declared,” he said.
The Associated Press contributed to this update. Posted by Chris Pandolfo
Turkey is a country north of Israel and could well be the one described in in times that invades Israel as the final act. Many say it is Russia, but Turkey also fits the description.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 03:03:16 pm
IDF claims to have killed top Hamas commander responsible for 'numerous murderous attacks' By Nicholas McEntyre
Israeli forces claim it has killed a top Hamas commander who has been known to be the mastermind behind past deadly attacks.
Taysir Mubasher, the Commander of the North Khan Yunis Battalion, was "eliminated" by the Israeli Air Force soldiers, the IAF announced on X Wednesday.
Mubasher was the former commander of the Hamas Naval force and has had "extensive military and command experience as a coordinator of terrorist attacks."
He was considered to be close to Hamas senior members "with an emphasis" on Muhammad Deif, the leader of the terror group's military wing.
"Mubasher was responsible for a number of murderous attacks against IDF soldiers and citizens of the State of Israel over the years," the IAF said. Including an attack on a school in 2002 that killed five students.
The IDF said it is believed Mubasher had produced the explosives that killed an IDF soldier during an explosion at an outpost in 2004, along with an earlier attack in 2003.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 03:17:40 pm
Qatar hoping for 'breakthrough' soon on hostages held by Hamas: prime minister By Brett Gubitosi
The leader of Qatar, Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani, said he is hopeful that a "breakthrough" will happen soon in the release of hostages being held by the Hamas terrorist organization, according to CNN.
“If we will be able to get along between the two parties, I think we will see some breakthrough hopefully soon,” he told a news conference with his Turkish counterpart Hakan Fidan. “The negotiations are still ongoing,” Al Thani said.
Four hostages have been freed since the horrific attack on Oct. 7 at an Israeli music festival.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 03:20:52 pm
US military warned Israel against 'dangerous' invasion of Gaza - report By JERUSALEM POST STAFF OCTOBER 25, 2023 17:46
US military officials are trying to convince Israel against carrying out a ground invasion of the Gaza Strip in response to Hamas's October 7 massacre, CNN reported on Wednesday citing "several sources familiar with the matter."
As per the report, American officials advised the IDF against a counter-invasion, with the fear it could "endanger hostages, civilians, and further inflame tensions in the region."
Instead, the IDF was urged to deploy a "combination of precision airstrikes and targeted special operations raids" across the Strip.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 03:25:16 pm
Netanyahus staying in US billionaire's Jerusalem villa, Israeli report says
The Netanyahus had reportedly brought in their state-paid personal chef to Falic's Talpiot estate, a breach of regulations that do not allow for a state employee to work in a private home.
By JERUSALEM POST STAFF OCTOBER 25, 2023 16:41
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his wife Sara have been residing in a Jerusalem villa owned by American billionaire Simon Falic in the past week, Channel 13 reported on Wednesday, as hundreds of thousands of Israelis were internally displaced from their homes after Hamas's October 7 massacre.
Furthermore, the Netanyahus had reportedly brought in their state-paid personal chef to Falic's Talpiot estate, a breach of regulations that do not allow for a state employee to work in a private home.
It is not clear whether Falic and his family are currently residing in the home.
more https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-770114
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Post by: DefiantMassRINO on October 25, 2023, 03:26:04 pm
I'm hoping for a Bunker Buster Bomb to break through the headquarters of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 03:28:45 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 03:55:30 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 1m BREAKING: The IDF issued a warning to residents of Gaza border towns to seek shelter amid an impending "widespread attack."
Residents were told to bring food and water, mattresses, blankets, medicine and other necessary equipment into their shelters.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 03:56:26 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 14m BREAKING: Four more bodies of murdered Israelis were discovered in the vicinity of the ravaged kibbutz Be'eri, Israel's National Rescue Unit 360 announced on Wednesday evening.
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Post by: mountaineer on October 25, 2023, 04:07:47 pm
NBC News @NBCNews Clean drinking water is running out in Gaza, forcing people in the region to drink or cook with tainted water. That water is likely to be rife with bacteria that can lead to violent intestinal diseases, such as dysentery and cholera.
Ben Shapiro @benshapiro If only there was a government in Gaza for 20 years -- call it Hamas, just for the sake of argument -- that could have spent a dime on water supply rather than spending it all on rockets and tunnels
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 25, 2023, 04:40:59 pm
NBC News @NBCNews Clean drinking water is running out in Gaza, forcing people in the region to drink or cook with tainted water. That water is likely to be rife with bacteria that can lead to violent intestinal diseases, such as dysentery and cholera.
Ben Shapiro @benshapiro If only there was a government in Gaza for 20 years -- call it Hamas, just for the sake of argument -- that could have spent a dime on water supply rather than spending it all on rockets and tunnels
I'm your Huckleberry, Ben!!
"For the sake of argument...", isn't an Israeli airstrike or drone strike able to destroy a water supply infrastructure? /s
BTW...I'm 100% pro-Israel in dealing with HAMAS. Hamas wants safe passage for the 'leaders' and "their families" out of Gaza? NEVER! Their lots have been cast.
OH...and put it on TV.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 05:08:47 pm
Biden Admin will never admit this
‘All-Out Victory’: Hezbollah Chief Holds Terror Summit with Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad Leaders
Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of the Shiite terrorist organization Hezbollah, convened a summit featuring top leaders from Sunni terrorist organizations Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) on Wednesday, allegedly meant to plan future violence following Hamas’s mass murder of over 1,400 Israelis on October 7.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 05:10:48 pm
Don't Don't Don't
US defense official says 30 service members injured in drone and rocket attacks in last week
A U.S. defense official tells Fox News that 30 U.S. service members have been injured in drone and rocket attacks in the Middle East over the past week.
The full extent of the injuries was not immediately clear. The defense official said several service members suffered from traumatic brain injuries (TBIs) but have all returned to duty.
United States-led coalition forces have started live-fire exercises at military bases in Iraq and Syria, after more than a dozen attacks on American troops over the last week.
The Combined Joint Task Force — Operation Inherent Resolve (CJTF-OIR) said on Wednesday that ground operational exercises "to validate weapons systems and maintain crew proficiency and readiness" would happen in or near the al-Hasakah region in Syria and the Khalidiyah region in Iraq.
"On Oct. 25, 2023, Coalition service members will be conducting ground operational exercises in or near the al-Hasakah region in Syria to validate weapons systems and maintain crew proficiency and readiness," a notice from CJTF-OIR said. A separate but similar notice coalition forces will conduct "base defense and ground operational exercises in or near the Khalidiyah region in Iraq to validate weapons systems and maintain crew proficiency and readiness."
The exercises come as U.S. troops positioned in the Middle East have been attacked 14 times — 11 times in Iraq and three times in Syria — between Oct. 17-24. The attacks include a mix of one-way drones and rockets.
Fox News' Liz Friden and Lawrence Richard contributed to this update. Posted by Chris Pandolfo
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 05:12:04 pm
'Heartbreaking' teddy bear display calls attention to Israeli children held hostage by Hamas
Dozens of teddy bears with blindfolds were set up in a display near a fountain in Tel Aviv to call attention to the suffering of Israeli children held captive by Hamas terrorists.
Each of the brown and white stuffed animals featured a picture of one of the roughly 30 children, some as young as nine months old, who were among the 222 people held hostage in Gaza by Hamas fighters following the militant group's attack on Israel on Oct. 7, the Associated Press reported.
Photos of the display show some of the bears were marked with fake blood and some were tied together. Passerbys said they were left speechless.
“It’s just unbelievable. There’s like no words. Because, even with the blood on it you can see, and the blindfolds … it’s very symbolic for me of the captivity of innocent children,” Hilary Meyerov said. “It’s completely heartbreaking.”
An off-duty Israeli soldier stopped to take photos of the display.
“Bring them back. Bring them back,” said Avigail Ben-Yosef. “I’m sending love to all the families, they are waiting for these children, and to all the other hostages.”
The Associated Press contributed to this update. Posted by Chris Pandolfo
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 05:17:26 pm
Israel agrees to postpone Gaza ground invasion until US air-defense systems are in place: report By Jesse O’Neill
Israel had agreed Wednesday to a U.S. request to get air-defense systems in place to protect American forces serving in Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, ahead of an expected ground invasion of Gaza.
The Pentagon is rushing to send almost a dozen air-defense systems to the region and had convinced Israel to hold off its invasion of the disputed territory until they are in place, according to The Wall Street Journal.
Israel is also planning its invasion around efforts to supply humanitarian aide to Palestinians trapped in the narrow, densely-populated strip that's besieged with airstrikes during ongoing diplomatic efforts to free more than 200 hostages being held by Hamas, the WSJ reported.
Israel's concessions to its staunch ally came as U.S. officials reportedly said they believe troops in the region would be targeted by militants once the IDF escalates its war on the ground.
At least 13 attacks targeting Americans have been carried out in Iraq and Syria, using drones and missiles over the last two weeks. One U.S. contractor was killed and 22 troops reportedly suffered minor injuries. NYPost
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 05:18:13 pm
Like I said I will be surprised if/when Israel starts a ground war...
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Post by: 240B on October 25, 2023, 05:25:37 pm
Like I said I will be surprised if/when Israel starts a ground war...
It seems to be unnecessary. Once Israel pounds the terrorist fort into pebbles. Let Hamas do the clean up. Israel is pounding them into sand. Why change anything? All the sieges of ancient literature were months and years. We will just sit here and wait. Oh ... and lobbing bombs over for the terrorists to celebrate.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 05:29:53 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post Israel's government will set official days of mourning across the country, in commemoration of the October 7 massacre, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced on Wednesday night.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 05:30:00 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 05:57:33 pm
Okey dokey
@Osinttechnical · 26m Netanyahu confirms that there will be an Israeli ground invasion of the Gaza Strip with two goals:
1. Destroy Hamas
2. Rescue hostages
Says that the Chief of Staff and the war cabinet have scheduled a start time.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 05:58:15 pm
Don't tell Pops
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 29m Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu has announced that the Date for the Ground Invasion of the Gaza Strip has been set.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 05:58:58 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 06:08:33 pm
Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com · 2m Netanyahu wants to keep pounding Gaza with airstrikes for now, based on US military advice, @kann_news reports. Gaza invasion will come next, PM says in speech to the nation tonight.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 06:11:26 pm
'Israel has the right to respond to the slaughter of their people,' Biden says in WH speech; ending war 'has to be a two-state solution' By Kaydi Pelletier and Samuel Chamberlain
During a press conference Wednesday while hosting Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, President Biden spoke from the White House grounds about Israel, saying the nation has the "right" and "responsibility" to "respond to the slaughter of their people."
"The answer, the hurt, the sense of outrage that the Israeli people are feeling after the brutally inflicted devastation by Hamas is completely understandable," the president said shortly before 2 p.m.
"Israel has the right — and I would add, responsibility — to respond to the slaughter of their people. And we will ensure Israel has what it needs to defend itself against these terrorists. That's a guarantee.
"We also have to remember that Hamas does not represent the vast majority of the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip or anywhere else. Hamas is hiding behind Palestinian civilians, and it's despicable and, not surprisingly, cowardly as well. This also puts an added burden on Israel while they go after Hamas, but that does not lessen the need for to operate in line with the laws of war.
"There's no going back to the status quo as it stood on Oct. 6. That means ensuring Hamas can no longer terrorize Israel and use Palestinian civilians as human shields.
"When this crisis is over, there has to be a vision of what comes next. And in our view, it has to be a two-state solution. And means a concentrated effort for all the parties — Israelis, Palestinians, regional partners, global leaders — to put us on a path toward peace." NYPost
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Post by: 240B on October 25, 2023, 06:27:11 pm
The Gaza terrorists were told they would get $10,000 and a new apartment. This is why they videoed themselves raping children and cutting the heads of infants. They wanted to be recorded, so they could get their reward.
But, the 'reward' never came. All 'apartments' in Gaza are now rubble. $10,000 will now buy a bag full of shit and dead relatives.
Allah hu Akbar! Allah wants you all dead ... that is the way it is going.
Do not worry, my friend. Allah will save you ...Allah hu Akbar! hee hee ha Allah is going to kill you
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Post by: 240B on October 25, 2023, 07:02:37 pm
Reconquista!
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 07:31:56 pm
You are lying you POS
Biden: I 'did not demand' Gaza ground invasion be delayed to allow hostages out By Kaydi Pelletier and Samuel Chamberlain
"I continue to be alarmed about extremist settlers attacking Palestinians in the West Bank," Biden went on to say from the Rose Garden during a presser while hosting the prime minister of Australia.
"That's pouring gasoline on the fire," he said. "They're attacking Palestinians in places that they're entitled to be.
"It has to stop. They have to be held accountable and it has to stop now."
Regarding the approximately 200 hostages being held by Hamas, Biden said that he "did not demand" the Gaza ground invasion be delayed to allow hostages out.
"Obviously [the hostages] are in jeopardy," the president said. "The question is whether or not there's any way of getting them out. If you [can] get them out, we should get them out."
Biden also said he doesn't believe the Gaza casualty numbers being reported from Hamas-controlled Palestinian officials.
"I have no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people were killed," he said. "I have no confidence in the number that the Palestinians are using."
NYPost
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 07:33:05 pm
Another lie...they have been preparing this attack for 1-2 years
Biden: 'Instinct' tells me Hamas attacked Israel 'because of the progress we're making toward regional integration' By Kaydi Pelletier and Samuel Chamberlain
Biden said in a Wednesday speech from the Rose Garden that his "instinct" is Hamas staged its Oct. 7 war-igniting terrorist attack on Israelis 'because of the progress we're making towards regional integration for Israel."
"I'm convinced one of the reasons Hamas attacked when they did — I have no proof of this, it's my instinct that tells me — is because of the progress we're making toward regional integration for Israel," Biden said from the White House grounds.
"In the past few weeks, I've spoken with leaders throughout the region — including King Abdullah of Jordan, President Sisi of Egypt, President Abbas the Palestinian Authority, and just yesterday with the crown prince of Saudi Arabia — about making sure there's real hope in the region for a better future."
NYPost
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 07:37:25 pm
*** WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT *** Home Where Palestinian Hamas Terrorists Murdered Israeli Family in Kibbutz Be’eri
Joel B. Pollak 25 Oct 2023
TEL AVIV, Israel — The family home where Palestinian Hamas terrorists murdered innocent civilians in Kibbutz Be’eri still had food in the fridge when reporters visited on Sunday, Oct. 22, two weeks after the massacre of Oct. 7.
There are still photos of children on the door of the refrigerator; there are still stuffed animals on the floor of the children’s room.
And that same floor is covered in dried blood — the blood of innocent people, murdered for no reason except that they were Jews.
more w/video https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/25/warning-graphic-content-home-where-palestinian-hamas-terrorists-murdered-israeli-family-in-kibbutz-beeri/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 07:44:24 pm
Israeli PM Netanyahu promises ground invasion of Gaza to come to exact 'highest price' from Hamas
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in an address to his nation, promised that the delayed ground invasion of Gaza will come soon.
Netanyahu said that when the time comes, the Israeli military will "exact the highest price from these murderers" for the Oct. 7 terror attack in which at least 1,400 Israelis were killed. The unprecedented infiltration of Israel, the deadliest terror attack in the country's history, provoked a war that is now in its 19th day.
"We will never forget the 1,400 brothers and sisters who were slaughtered in cold blood and fought heroically to the death against these human animals, Netanyahu said, announcing there will be a national day of mourning for the victims.
The prime minister also promised there will be an investigation into the security failures that led to Hamas catching Israel off-guard on the Jewish holiday of Simchat Torah.
"This failure will be investigated to the end. Everyone has to respond to that and give answers, including me, but all of this is after the war," Netanyahu said. Posted by Chris Pandolfo Fox News
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 07:45:13 pm
Israel-Hamas war: International Criminal Court urged to investigate war crimes in October 7 massacre
The International Criminal Court (ICC) has been asked to investigate Hamas for war crimes with respect to the southern Israel massacres on October 7.
The International Legal Forum (ILF), an Israel-based NGO, filed the complaint on Wednesday. According to the ILF, it is the first formal complaint about the October 7 massacres to the International Criminal Court.
In a statement, the ILF asked the Chief Prosecutor to "initiate an urgent investigation" into war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity committed by Hamas.
"Specific crimes alleged, include, but are not limited to: intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population, mass murder and summary executions, taking of hostages, torture, rape, use of human shields, pillaging and mutilation," the statement read.
"In addition to seeking the arrest warrants for the leadership of Hamas, the complaint also seeks arrest warrants against Mahmoud Abbas, in his capacity as President of the Palestinian Authority, as well as Ayatollah Khamenei of Iran and Maj. Gen. Hossein Salami, Chief of the Iran Revolutionary Guards Corps, arising out of their legal culpability and direct involvement in the atrocities committed on October 7th, 2023, and continuing thereafter." Posted by Andrea Vacchiano Fox News
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 07:58:01 pm
President Biden: 'No confidence' in Hamas-led health ministry casualty reports
President Biden on Wednesday told reporters he has "no confidence" in the Palestinian death toll reported by the Hamas-led health ministry in Gaza.
The Hamas-controlled Gaza health ministry claims that more than 6,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli airstrikes since the start of the Israel-Hamas war on Oct. 7, including 2,700 children.
"I have no notion whether Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed," Biden said when asked about the reported death toll. "I'm sure innocents have been killed and it's a price of waging a war."
The president said Israel should be "incredibly careful to be sure that they're focusing on going after the folks that are propagating this war against Israel, and it's against our interests when that doesn't happen. But I have no confidence in the number that the Palestinians are using."
The Hamas-run Health Ministry claimed Wednesday that at least 6,546 Palestinians have been killed and 17,439 others wounded. In the occupied West Bank, authorities claim more than 100 Palestinians have been killed and 1,650 wounded in violence and Israeli raids since Oct. 7. Posted by Chris Pandolfo
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 08:00:17 pm
On Fox now
Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com · 1h Gaza rocket barrage targets central Israel; impact reported in Rishon Lezion south of Tel Aviv; no reports of injuries for now (@N12News )
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 08:00:42 pm
Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com · 1h IDF eliminated 5 Hezbollah terror squads on Lebanon border today; several anti-tank missiles fired into Israel (via @kann_news )
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Post by: 240B on October 25, 2023, 08:06:15 pm
If you gave all that they claim to want. If you gave up so-called 'Palestine' to the Arab terrorists. It would make no difference. Their war is a war against civilization. They would still keep killing. It is a war against us, and all that we are.
When you see Harvard and Yale ripping down posters of dead Jews. They cannot seem to see that they are next on the list ... Islamists will kill them, like they wipe their ass
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 08:34:10 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 08:35:15 pm
LOL
OSINTdefender @sentdefender As a Rocket Attack was underway against U.S. Forces in Northeastern Syria, President Biden was stating during an Interview regarding recent Attacks on U.S. Troops by Iranian Militias, “My Warning to the Ayatollah was that if they continue to move against those Troops, we will Respond. And he should be Prepared.” 1:24 PM · Oct 25, 2023 · 569.8K Views
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 08:37:16 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 08:38:45 pm
Poster for three-year-old Israeli girls kidnapped by Hamas vandalized with Hitler mustaches in London By Alex Oliveira
Posters in London showing Israeli children kidnapped by Hamas were vandalized with illustrations of mustaches reminiscent of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler's.
One of the posters showed Emma and Yuli Cunio, three-year-old sisters who were snatched from Kibbutz Nir Oz during Hamas' bloody October 7 sneak attack on Israel and remain hostages of the terrorist group.
A pair of narrow mustaches synonymous with the architect of the Holocaust were inked on the faces of the smiling twin girls, and crude black unibrows were scrawled across their foreheads, according to the Telegraph.
The girls were abducted along with their parents, their aunt, and a five-year-old cousin.
Similarly vandalized was a poster for 17-year-old Tomer Eliaz Arava, who is believed to have been killed at Nahal Oz Kibbutz during the attack.
Hamas reportedly forced Arava to go door-to-door in his kibbutz and tell his neighbors it was safe to come out so they could be easier ambushed.
Police are investigating the vandalism as a hate crime.
Similar "kidnapped" posters have been posted across the globe to spread awareness about the victims of Hamas' attack, and in many cities people have been caught defacing them or tearing them from walls.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 25, 2023, 08:50:57 pm
Israel-Hamas war: International Criminal Court urged to investigate war crimes in October 7 massacre
The International Criminal Court (ICC) has been asked to investigate Hamas for war crimes with respect to the southern Israel massacres on October 7.
The International Legal Forum (ILF), an Israel-based NGO, filed the complaint on Wednesday. According to the ILF, it is the first formal complaint about the October 7 massacres to the International Criminal Court.
In a statement, the ILF asked the Chief Prosecutor to "initiate an urgent investigation" into war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity committed by Hamas.
Sincere question: what's the difference between terrorism and war?
Thanks in advance.
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Post by: GtHawk on October 25, 2023, 09:09:20 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender As a Rocket Attack was underway against U.S. Forces in Northeastern Syria, President Biden was stating during an Interview regarding recent Attacks on U.S. Troops by Iranian Militias, “My Warning to the Ayatollah was that if they continue to move against those Troops, we will Respond. And he should be Prepared.” 1:24 PM · Oct 25, 2023 · 569.8K Views
Seeing as this is the great foreign policy expert Plugs Brandon making the warning, I expect that what he will lob at the Ayatollah is some more taxpayer billions.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 09:14:30 pm
Seeing as this is the great foreign policy expert Plugs Brandon making the warning, I expect that what he will lob at the Ayatollah is some more taxpayer billions.
Americans have already been killed...on Oct 7th
How many Us service members have to be killed for Pops to act?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: libertybele on October 25, 2023, 09:15:47 pm
If you gave all that they claim to want. If you gave up so-called 'Palestine' to the Arab terrorists. It would make no difference. Their war is a war against civilization. They would still keep killing. It is a war against us, and all that we are.
When you see Harvard and Yale ripping down posters of dead Jews. They cannot seem to see that they are next on the list ... Islamists will kill them, like they wipe their ass
Islam is and always WILL be at war with any country or individual that isn't a follower of Islam.
Anybody that believes anything else is true instead of this isn't smart enough to qualify as a fool.
Islam is a religion of conquest to establish a religious police state,period.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mountaineer on October 25, 2023, 10:16:36 pm
Logan Ratick @Logan_Ratick House passes resolution reaffirming U.S. support for Israel & condemning Hamas terror attacks. 412-10-6 Nays: Bush, Bowman, Carson, Al Green, Lee, Massie, Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, Ramirez, Tlaib Present: Casar, Castro, Chuy Garcia, Jayapal, Pressley, Velazquez 15/16 are Democrats 5:34 PM · Oct 25, 2023
@Logan_Ratick The lone Republican to vote no, Massie, released this statement before his vote:
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Thomas Massie @RepThomasMassie I condemn the barbaric attack on Israel and I affirm Israel’s right to defend itself. However, I will not be voting for House Resolution 771 today because:
1) It calls for sanctions on a sovereign country. Sanctions are a prelude to war and hurt the citizens of the country more than the government of the country that’s being sanctioned. And ultimately, sanctions create laws that will be used to prosecute American citizens (who engage in trade), not citizens of the sanctioned country. In short, sanctions do not achieve their stated purposes but do breed resentment of our country abroad.
2) It asserts the necessity of foreign aid commitments which I have voted against. Our country is going bankrupt and we can’t afford to borrow money to send overseas, yet this resolution states that we should.
3) It contains an open-ended promise of military support that is so broad that it could be interpreted to commit US soldiers to the conflict. US troops should not be engaged in this conflict.
4) It tends to broaden the conflict to other countries when it would be better to keep the war contained geographically.
Here’s a link to the text of the resolution, which contains some statements I do support and some statements I cannot support.
https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20231023/HRes%20771%20as%20introduced.pdf 4:01 PM · Oct 25, 2023
Hamas is a sovereign country? :shrug:
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 10:52:07 pm
Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com · 5m Senior Israeli officials see chance for major deal to release Gaza hostages; focus is on children, women & elderly captives; deadline for deal nearing, IDF will launch ground offensive in any case, they say.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 10:52:40 pm
Trey Yingst reposted Jacqui Heinrich @JacquiHeinrich · 3h notable via @Liz_Friden -
Fox News confirms Saudi Arabia intercepted a cruise missile that was on its way to Israel last week during a barrage fired by the Iranian-backed Houthi's in Yemen.
It's the first known time Saudi military actions prevented attack on Israel.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 25, 2023, 11:06:38 pm
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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram
Schumer to meet with families of hostages held by Hamas tomorrow at the Capitol
6:28 PM · Oct 25, 2023
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 11:25:46 pm
Trey Yingst reposted Liz Friden @Liz_Friden · 1h JUST IN: 21 U.S. service members were injured from the Iranian proxy attacks at Al Assad Airbase, Iraq and Al-Tanf Garrison, Syria last week according to Pentagon Press Secretary Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder. All members returned to duty. The Pentagon classified them as “minor injuries.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 25, 2023, 11:26:11 pm
Trey Yingst reposted Liz Friden @Liz_Friden · 1h JUST IN: 21 U.S. service members were injured from the Iranian proxy attacks at Al Assad Airbase, Iraq and Al-Tanf Garrison, Syria last week according to Pentagon Press Secretary Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder. All members returned to duty. The Pentagon classified them as “minor injuries.”
Sadly,none will get awarded the Purple Heart they all deserve because it didn't happen during a declared enemy action.
Something needs to be done about this.
Maybe not an actual "Purple Heart" because they are long established as being awarded for wounds received in combat with a declared enemy.
However,I am sure there are bright people in the Pentagon who can come up with a name that immediately recognizes the "new award" as one given for receiving wounds in a combat action/theater.
This is especially important when these "minor wounds of youth" come back to haunt you 30 or so years down the road,and you might have trouble getting treated as a service-connected wounded veteran.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 26, 2023, 12:06:53 am
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Announcing the ground invasion of Gaza is imminent, Netanyahu proclaims: “We shall realize the prophecy of Isaiah”. This is one of the messianic Old Testament prophecies cited by Evangelical Christian preachers who see Israel as a precursor to Armageddon. (Video)
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 12:34:20 am
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 1h A security team at Cooper College in the United States locked #Jewish students in the library for their safety against a pro-#Palestinian group that tried to break down the door against them.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 12:41:09 am
Over half of Hamas' hostages hold foreign nationality -- 54 hail from Thailand alone By Alex Oliveira
Over half of the estimated 220 Israeli hostages captured by Hamas are also citizens of other countries, Israeli officials announced Wednesday.
At least 138 of the of the hostages had foreign passports, including 12 Americans, 12 Germans, 15 Argentinians, and six from both France and Russia, according to Reuters.
Many of those people are believed to have dual nationality with Israel, except 54 Thais, five Nepalese, and single hostages from China, Sri Lanka, and two from both Tanzania and the Philippines.
Thailand is one of Israel's largest sources for foreign laborers -- about 30,000 are employed in the country's agricultural sector. At least 24 Thais have been confirmed killed in Hamas' October 7 surprise attack on Israel, while 21 remain unaccounted for.
Foreign victims identified as dead or missing in Hamas' massacre totaled 328 people from 40 different countries, Israel said. At least 1,400 people in total were killed by the terror group.
Besides Thailand, foreign nations that experienced high death tolls included the United States with at least 34 dead and five still missing, Ukraine with 25 dead and two still missing, France with 23 dead and one missing, and 23 Russians dead and four missing.
China lost five citizens and one remains missing, and Nepal lost five while five more remain missing.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 26, 2023, 03:19:45 am
"For the sake of argument...", isn't an Israeli airstrike or drone strike able to destroy a water supply infrastructure? /s
BTW...I'm 100% pro-Israel in dealing with HAMAS. Hamas wants safe passage for the 'leaders' and "their families" out of Gaza? NEVER! Their lots have been cast.
OH...and put it on TV.
Just reaping the benefits of digging up water pipes and making rockets out of them!
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Post by: Free Vulcan on October 26, 2023, 04:08:49 am
The Biden admin hasn't exactly been best of friends with Israel, and very chummy with Hamas, yet we are rushing headlong into this without any caution.
I am very much not trusting anything that's going on here.
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 26, 2023, 04:14:36 am
The Biden admin hasn't exactly been best of friends with Israel, and very chummy with Hamas, yet we are rushing headlong into this without any caution.
I am very much not trusting anything that's going on here.
You are not alone.
I trust this administration to screw up in epic fashion, but little else, and never good.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 26, 2023, 04:29:38 am
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender
The Israeli Defense Force is reported to have carried out a Significant Ground Operation this morning in the Gaza Strip involving a number of Armored Vehicles with Mounted-Infantry and Tanks; this Operation is claimed to have been much Larger and Penetrated Deeper into Gaza than previous Raids with the Goal being the Destruction of Forward-Positions used by Hamas and the Strengthening of Defenses near the Border Fence.
12:20 AM · Oct 26, 2023
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 26, 2023, 04:34:17 am
The Biden admin hasn't exactly been best of friends with Israel, and very chummy with Hamas, yet we are rushing headlong into this without any caution.
I am very much not trusting anything that's going on here.
Trust we'll be the last to know. **nononono*
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 26, 2023, 04:41:39 am
Macron announces France will send navy ship to 'support Gaza hospitals' A French plane will also deliver medical equipment, the president said after meeting with his Egyptian counterpart Abdel Fattah el-Sissi on the latest leg of a crisis tour across the region following the outbreak of the Israel-Hamas war. Le Monde, Oct 25, 2023
Macron announces France will send navy ship to 'support Gaza hospitals' A French plane will also deliver medical equipment, the president said after meeting with his Egyptian counterpart Abdel Fattah el-Sissi on the latest leg of a crisis tour across the region following the outbreak of the Israel-Hamas war. Le Monde, Oct 25, 2023
Logan Ratick @Logan_Ratick House passes resolution reaffirming U.S. support for Israel & condemning Hamas terror attacks. 412-10-6 Nays: Bush, Bowman, Carson, Al Green, Lee, Massie, Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, Ramirez, Tlaib Present: Casar, Castro, Chuy Garcia, Jayapal, Pressley, Velazquez 15/16 are Democrats 5:34 PM · Oct 25, 2023
@Logan_Ratick The lone Republican to vote no, Massie, released this statement before his vote:Hamas is a sovereign country? :shrug:
Did numbnuts ever vote for sanctions against Russia, Iran?
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 01:07:42 pm
WATCH: Israeli Forces Enter Gaza, Return; Preparing for Broader Invasion
Joel B. Pollak26 Oct 20236 2:51
An Israel Defense Forces (IDF) strike team entered Gaza overnight Wednesday into Thursday to attack anti-tank defenses in preparation for a ground invasion that has long been anticipated, the IDF said.
more https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2023/10/26/watch-israeli-forces-enter-gaza-return-preparing-for-broader-invasion/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 01:29:26 pm
This was a target rich environment ...they should have been taken out!
Leaders with Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad met Wednesday to discuss their ongoing war against Israel.
Hezbollah official Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, Hamas deputy chief Saleh al-Arouri and Islamic Jihad chief Ziad al-Nakhala spoke Wednesday about the conflict.
"An assessment was made of the international positions being taken and what the parties of the Axis of Resistance must do [...] to realize a real victory for the resistance in Gaza and Palestinian and to halt the brutal aggression," a communiqué from Hezbollah said.
more https://www.foxnews.com/world/hamas-leaders-meet-hezbollah-islamic-jihad-plot-victory-against-israel
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 01:34:06 pm
Several U.S. troops report brain injury from attacks in Iraq and Syria
More than 20 service members have reported minor injuries so far as a result of the Iran-backed attacks on U.S. positions in Iraq and Syria, according to a Defense Department official.
By Lara Seligman
10/25/2023 12:34 PM EDT
Updated: 10/25/2023 01:08 PM EDT
Several American troops stationed in the Middle East have reported symptoms of traumatic brain injury following rocket and drone attacks launched by Iran proxies over the past week, according to two U.S. officials with knowledge of the incidents.
“There have been a few reports of TBIs as well as some minor injuries from service members,” said one of the U.S. officials, using the acronym for “traumatic brain injuries.”
However, the injured service members have all been returned to duty, added the official, who like others interviewed for this story was granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.
more https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/25/several-u-s-troops-report-brain-injury-from-attacks-in-iraq-and-syria-00123485
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 01:36:07 pm
@Logan_Ratick The lone Republican to vote no, Massie, released this statement before his vote:
Hamas is a sovereign country? :shrug:
Not Hamas -- Iran. From the resolution:
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(10) urges full enforcement of United States sanctions against Iran to prevent Iran’s funding of terrorist groups, including Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad;
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: sneakypete on October 26, 2023, 01:41:19 pm
Several U.S. troops report brain injury from attacks in Iraq and Syria
More than 20 service members have reported minor injuries so far as a result of the Iran-backed attacks on U.S. positions in Iraq and Syria, according to a Defense Department official.
By Lara Seligman
10/25/2023 12:34 PM EDT
Updated: 10/25/2023 01:08 PM EDT
Several American troops stationed in the Middle East have reported symptoms of traumatic brain injury following rocket and drone attacks launched by Iran proxies over the past week, according to two U.S. officials with knowledge of the incidents.
“There have been a few reports of TBIs as well as some minor injuries from service members,” said one of the U.S. officials, using the acronym for “traumatic brain injuries.”
However, the injured service members have all been returned to duty, added the official, who like others interviewed for this story was granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.
more https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/25/several-u-s-troops-report-brain-injury-from-attacks-in-iraq-and-syria-00123485
Then WTH are they speaking about it,and WTH aren't they being held pending court-martials at this time?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mountaineer on October 26, 2023, 01:43:53 pm
This guy has appeared in numerous propaganda videos for Hamas, most notably representing an injured Gaza resident (multiple times). https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1717148719420764170
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Post by: Polly Ticks on October 26, 2023, 01:46:25 pm
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Post by: mountaineer on October 26, 2023, 01:52:16 pm
Another crisis actor: A "Palestinian" "victim" of the Israeli military operation against Hamas is texting queen Rania of Jordan or the Director General of the UN to make sure they know he is dead. https://twitter.com/eldadbeck/status/1717499895454539845
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 01:53:07 pm
Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com · 3h Israeli forces operate inside Gaza every night to create new security zone; IDF is clearing explosives, removing obstacles as 1st step to set up buffer zone across entire frontier; Gaza residents will no longer be able to reach border area. @WallaNews
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 02:29:04 pm
Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com · 23m Israel will use new "sponge bombs" to seal off Hamas terror tunnels in Gaza, @Telegraph reports; this "secret weapon" produces foam that quickly expands & hardens, report says.
Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com · 54m Israeli Defense Ministry grants permit for operational test of laser-based air defense system in current war, @ynetalerts reports; no details on planned test date.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 02:34:32 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 17m The French Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced today that the number of French Nationals that have been Killed since the Hamas Surprise Attack on October 7th in Southern Israel has now Increased to 35.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 02:35:51 pm
We knew this was coming
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 25m Hamas is claiming that 50 of the 220-250 Hostages being held by the them and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad have been Killed by Israeli Airstrikes since October 7th.
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 21m I honestly doubt if any of this is actually True that all of those 50 Hostages were Killed by Israeli Airstrikes,
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 02:36:22 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 44m The Russian Deputy Foreign Minister, Mikhail Bogdanov is reported to have met with Senior Political Leaders of Hamas today in Qatar in order to discuss the possible Release of additional Hostages being held in the Gaza Strip.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 02:37:17 pm
Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 1h Lots of machine gun fire along the Gaza border. Also heavy Israeli shelling from the ground and sea.
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Post by: DefiantMassRINO on October 26, 2023, 02:55:22 pm
Napalm and Daisy Cutters could also suck the oxygen out of the tunnels ... suffocate the S.O.B's ... possibly pipe carbon monoxide into the tunnels.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 03:26:40 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 04:19:07 pm
Hamas Delegation Visits Moscow, Discusses Release of Hostages in Gaza - Agencies
By Reuters | Oct. 26, 2023, at 10:04 a.m.
MOSCOW (Reuters) -A delegation from Hamas visited Moscow on Thursday for talks on the release of foreign hostages including Russian citizens that the militant group is currently holding in Gaza, Russian news agencies reported, citing the foreign ministry.
Senior Hamas member Abu Marzouk was among those attending the talks, TASS reported.
"Contacts were held with him in continuation of the Russian line on the immediate release of foreign hostages in the Gaza Strip. Issues related to ensuring the evacuation of Russian and other foreign citizens from the territory of the Palestinian enclave were also discussed," TASS said.
Russia has ties to all key players in the Middle East, including Israel, Iran, the Palestinian Authority and Hamas, the militant Islamist group that controls Gaza.
Moscow has repeatedly blamed the current crisis on the failure of U.S. diplomacy, and called for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas and the resumption of talks aimed at finding a peace settlement.
more https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-10-26/hamas-delegation-is-visiting-moscow-russian-foreign-ministry
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 04:48:34 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 04:49:13 pm
Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com · 1h IDF trains specialized infantry forces to serve as Air Force liaison on the ground inside Gaza; these forces will rapidly relay targets/needs to fighter jets for speedy destruction of enemy forces & assets.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 04:49:35 pm
Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com · 6h Israeli forces operate inside Gaza every night to create new security zone; IDF is clearing explosives, removing obstacles as 1st step to set up buffer zone across entire frontier; Gaza residents will no longer be able to reach border area.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 04:50:26 pm
Joe Truzman @JoeTruzman Based on precise IDF and ISA intelligence, IDF fighter jets struck three senior Hamas operatives in its Daraj Tuffah Battalion. The terrorists had participated in previous attacks against Israel.
The terrorists targeted were:
- Batallion Commander, Rifaat Abbas - Batallion Deputy Commander, Ibrahim Jadba - Combat Support Commander, Tarek Maarouf 11:42 AM · Oct 26, 2023 · 18.3K Views
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Post by: 240B on October 26, 2023, 05:17:42 pm
AT LEAST WE GOT RID OF TRUMP!!! Death destruction Armageddon! ALL BETTER THAN TRUMP! bleep TRUMP IF I DIE!! bleep Trump if my children die! Trump could have prevented all of this ... my ass ... TRUMP CAN GO TO HELL!
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 06:17:06 pm
Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com · 33m Fuel used for Hamas terror tunnels expected to run out in days (@kann_news ); defense sources: Israel willing to allow fuel into Gaza as part of major deal to release hostages (@Doron_Kadosh )
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 06:18:43 pm
Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com · 8h 2. Israel’s defense industries freeze projects for foreign clients to supply IDF, by activating emergency clauses in contracts; many countries in Europe are also sending back to Israel newly acquired weapons
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Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com · 8h 3. Defense Ministry leases 4 cargo planes on top of Air Force transport planes to ship arms 24/7; it's the largest airlift of weapons in Israel’s history, as IDF prepares for potential regional war on multiple fronts.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 06:19:58 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 06:20:56 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 33m Spokesman for the Israeli Defense Force, Brigadier General Daniel Hagari has just stated that a Raid by the Ground Forces of the IDF is currently ongoing in the Northern Gaza Strip.
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 31m He further stated that additional Raids will take place tonight and over the upcoming days in preparation for the Ground Operation.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 06:21:13 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 38m Initial Reports of an Attack by Pro-Iranian Militias against U.S. Forces at Erbil International Airport in Northern Iraq.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 06:22:20 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 44m Imagine Releasing over 6,000 Terrorists only for the 250 Hostages to be given to the Bosses of the Terrorists you just Released.
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 43m They are Out of their Minds if they think Israel would ever even consider this Ridiculous Proposal.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 06:23:38 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 06:39:19 pm
Muslims warn Democrats they'll lose their votes over Israel support: 'Going to have a problem'
Some Muslims in Michigan feel "betrayed" by how Democrats have responded to the Israel-Hamas war, and are warning party leaders they might not back the party in 2024, the Associated Press reported.
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and other Democrats in the state angered some Arab Americans for attending a pro-Israel rally days after the coordinated terror attack from Hamas earlier this month, but not attending a pro-Palestinian rally in Dearborn, the following day. Dearborn is one of the largest Muslim and Arab-American communities in the country.
At that rally, Whitmer and party leaders in the state were reportedly called out and booed for not attending.
Some Arab Americans told the AP this gesture, along with President Biden's support of Israel, could cost Democrats in the next election.
"There is going to be an effort to not support the people who have not supported us. The people that we voted for such a long time — people that we’ve helped, we’ve donated to and we’ve worked on their campaigns," 22-year-old Palestinian American Adam Abusalah said.
Democratic state Rep. Alabas Farhat said that in 2024, the party would have to answer for the way they've treated Arab Americans and Palestinians in this conflict.
"In 2024, Democrats are going to have a problem with Arab Americans. For too long, they’ve isolated Arab American voices within the party. They’ve isolated the perspectives of Arab Americans. And on this specific issue, they’ve denied even recognizing the human rights of Palestinians," Farhat, whose district contains most of Dearborn, told the AP.
Fox News' Kristine Parks contributed to this report Posted by Anders Hagstrom
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 06:40:29 pm
New York City Jews warned to stay away from 'Flood Brooklyn for Gaza' protest: Report
Jews in New York City are reportedly being encouraged to stay away from an upcoming "Flood Brooklyn for Gaza" protest, according to local outlet Col Live.
Rabbi Chanina Sperlin of the Crown Heights Jewish Community Council told the outelt that the NYPD has assured him that local Jews "will be protected." The NYPD did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Fox News Digital.
“Jews should definitely avoid the area,” a police source reportedly told the outlet. "There’s no intel at this time in which direction the protest will head. Locals should definitely stay away from Eastern Parkway in that area."
Jewish community leaders remain confident in police's ability to manage the protest, however.
Rabbi Yaacov Behrman of Jewish Future Alliance told Col that the NYPD did an "excellent job" of managing a pro-Palestinian rally last week that featured some 5,000 attendees. Nevertheless, Behrman said residents shoudl "stay vigilant and avoid that area unless absolutely necessary."
The Brooklyn protest comes as pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas demonstrations have popped up across the U.S., Europe and the globe. University students across America have shouted pro-Hamas slogans, leading to widespread fear among Jewish students. Posted by Anders Hagstrom
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 07:22:38 pm
Pentagon deploys 900 additional troops from US to Middle East By Caitlin Doornbos
Approximately 900 troops stationed in the US are now deploying to the Middle East in response to the Hamas-Israel conflict and the continued attacks by Iran-backed terrorist groups on American forces in Iraq and Syria, Pentagon spokesman Air Force Gen. Patrick Ryder said Thursday.
The troops had previously been placed on "prepare to deploy" orders. They include a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense battery from Fort Bliss, Texas, Patriot batteries from Fort Sill, Okla., Patriot and Avenger batteries from Fort Liberty, N.C. and "associated air-defense headquarters elements" from Fort Bliss and Fort Cavazos, Texas.
Ryder did not say where in the Middle East the troops will be deployed, but said they will not be sent into Israel.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 26, 2023, 07:55:02 pm
Don't don't don't...I mean it!
US troops targeted again by Iran-backed terrorist groups By Caitlin Doornbos
An Iran-backed terrorist group launched another attack on US forces stationed in Iraq on Thursday, continuing a recent spate of rocket and drone attacks on American troops since the Israel-Hamas conflict broke out on Oct. 7, Pentagon spokesman Air Force Gen. Patrick Ryder said.
The Thursday attack, which Ryder described as "unsuccessful," occurred at Erbil Air Base. The spokesman said there were "no significant injuries or damage" sustained in the attack.
"I would tell you that between Oct. 17 and 26, US and coalition forces have been attacked at least 12 separate times in Iraq (and) four separate times in Syria by a mix of one-way attack drones and rockets," Ryder said. "Again, we will continue to revise those numbers as new information comes in."
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 26, 2023, 08:03:36 pm
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Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 26, 2023, 08:05:53 pm
Muslims warn Democrats they'll lose their votes over Israel support: 'Going to have a problem'
Some Muslims in Michigan feel "betrayed" by how Democrats have responded to the Israel-Hamas war, and are warning party leaders they might not back the party in 2024, the Associated Press reported.
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and other Democrats in the state angered some Arab Americans for attending a pro-Israel rally days after the coordinated terror attack from Hamas earlier this month, but not attending a pro-Palestinian rally in Dearborn, the following day. Dearborn is one of the largest Muslim and Arab-American communities in the country.
At that rally, Whitmer and party leaders in the state were reportedly called out and booed for not attending.
Some Arab Americans told the AP this gesture, along with President Biden's support of Israel, could cost Democrats in the next election.
"There is going to be an effort to not support the people who have not supported us. The people that we voted for such a long time — people that we’ve helped, we’ve donated to and we’ve worked on their campaigns," 22-year-old Palestinian American Adam Abusalah said.
Democratic state Rep. Alabas Farhat said that in 2024, the party would have to answer for the way they've treated Arab Americans and Palestinians in this conflict.
"In 2024, Democrats are going to have a problem with Arab Americans. For too long, they’ve isolated Arab American voices within the party. They’ve isolated the perspectives of Arab Americans. And on this specific issue, they’ve denied even recognizing the human rights of Palestinians," Farhat, whose district contains most of Dearborn, told the AP.
Fox News' Kristine Parks contributed to this report Posted by Anders Hagstrom
How?
Do they expect Republicans to be any more sympathetic with terrorist groups?
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 26, 2023, 09:05:39 pm
US troops targeted again by Iran-backed terrorist groups By Caitlin Doornbos
An Iran-backed terrorist group launched another attack on US forces stationed in Iraq on Thursday, continuing a recent spate of rocket and drone attacks on American troops since the Israel-Hamas conflict broke out on Oct. 7, Pentagon spokesman Air Force Gen. Patrick Ryder said.
The Thursday attack, which Ryder described as "unsuccessful," occurred at Erbil Air Base. The spokesman said there were "no significant injuries or damage" sustained in the attack.
"I would tell you that between Oct. 17 and 26, US and coalition forces have been attacked at least 12 separate times in Iraq (and) four separate times in Syria by a mix of one-way attack drones and rockets," Ryder said. "Again, we will continue to revise those numbers as new information comes in."
When this latest Gaza war ends, can we finally cut the Middle East loose?
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 26, 2023, 09:08:00 pm
When this latest Gaza war ends, can we finally cut the Middle East loose?
That may depend to some extent on how efficient Israel is at handling their problem.
However the geopolitical boogeyman remains, of the natural resources in the region, and an administration that inexorably and increasingly is keeping us from utilizing our own.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 26, 2023, 09:51:58 pm
That may depend to some extent on how efficient Israel is at handling their problem.
I don't want any more American blood spilled in the sand trap of the Middle East. Even now. We don't understand it and we don't belong there. Let Israel do what it's capable of doing on its own and then settle down at a negotiating table with its regional neighbors and finalize their borders.
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However the geopolitical boogeyman remains, of the natural resources in the region, and an administration that inexorably and increasingly is keeping us from utilizing our own.
Nope. Enough with this bs mantra we've been sold for decades. We've been energy independent and we know how to do it again. Many need to get over basking in their hatred of all things Orange and switch to strategic thinking instead ---- if they're still capable of it.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 26, 2023, 10:27:39 pm
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Nikki Haley says the US must give Israel whatever it wants militarily, diplomatically, and financially -- "no questions asked" (Video)