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Title: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 01, 2017, 06:47:12 am
As we are now officially in 2017, it's time for a new thread.

I think we're all hoping we have fewer people to memorialize here this time around.  :0001:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 04, 2017, 02:48:58 pm
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George Kosana, sheriff in 'Night of the Living Dead,' dies at 81

George Kosana, who played the beefy Sheriff McClelland in the 1968 cult zombie film, Night of the Living Dead, has died. He was 81.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2017/01/03/george-kosana-sheriff-night-living-dead-dies-81/96133166/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on January 04, 2017, 09:16:53 pm
French maestro conductor Georges Prêtre dies at 92

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French maestro Georges Prêtre, who regularly conducted the renowned Vienna Symphony Orchestra, died Wednesday aged 92, the Austrian capital's Philharmonic society said.
More (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Arts-and-Ent/Music/2017/Jan-04/387883-french-maestro-conductor-georges-pretre-dies-at-92.ashx)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Pr%C3%AAtre)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 04, 2017, 10:50:48 pm
Former Navy SEAL Richard “Mack” Machowicz Passes Away After Long Battle with Cancer

We are saddened to hear that Richard “Mack” Machowicz has passed away after a long battle with cancer, which he was diagnosed with in 2015.

Richard “Mack” Machowicz was a fan favorite on the shows “Deadliest Warrior” and “Future Weapons.” Richard was the host of “Future Weapons” on Discovery. Before he began spending his time on television, he spent 10 years serving as a U.S. Navy SEAL.

More at the link: https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2017/01/03/former-navy-seal-richard-mack-machowicz-passes-away-long-battle-cancer/ (https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2017/01/03/former-navy-seal-richard-mack-machowicz-passes-away-long-battle-cancer/)

No date for his death in the article, but the article itself was dated Jan. 03, 2017.  With a hat tip to @geronl who posted the article originally in the Member's Lounge.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 05, 2017, 03:49:47 am
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Hockey hall of famer Milt Schmidt, 1951 NHL MVP, dies at 98
BOSTON — Milt Schmidt, the hockey hall of famer who led Boston to two Stanley Cup championships as the center of the "Kraut Line," served Canada in World War II and returned to the NHL to win its MVP award and two more titles as the Bruins general manager, died on Wednesday, the team said.

...

Schmidt's Boston teams won the Stanley Cup in 1939 and in '41. When he enlisted in the Royal Canadian Air Force two months after the Pearl Harbor attack along with "Kraut Line" mates Woody Dumart and Bobby Bauer, they were carried off the ice on the shoulders of the archrival Montreal Canadiens.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/hockey-hall-of-famer-milt-schmidt-1951-nhl-mvp-dies-at-98/ar-BBxU7CB?OCID=ansmsnnews11
(http://beckett-www.s3.amazonaws.com/news/news-content/uploads/2016/09/2016-17-OPC-677-Milt-Schmidt.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on January 05, 2017, 09:27:17 am
Unfortunately we live in the age of celebrity, and there are many old stars that are getting long in the tooth.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: geronl on January 05, 2017, 06:35:47 pm
Unfortunately we live in the age of celebrity, and there are many old stars that are getting long in the tooth.

A lot of the old stars dying in recent years that I thought were already dead tells me that Hollywood and the entertainment media really do not care much about them. You would think there'd be an occasional movie or TV special with them at the least.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on January 07, 2017, 01:12:05 pm
Carryover from 2016's obits:

Carrie Fisher’s urn is a giant Prozac pill
By Lindsey Kupfer and Natalie O'Neill
January 6, 2017 | 7:43pm

(https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/spl1417525_007.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1)

Story at New York Post (http://pagesix.com/2017/01/06/carrie-fishers-urn-is-a-giant-prozac-pill/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on January 08, 2017, 04:02:21 am
Nat Hentoff, journalist who wrote on jazz and civil liberties, dies at 91

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Nat Hentoff, a journalist, author, champion of jazz music and passionate defender of civil liberties in columns he wrote for The Washington Post and Village Voice, among other publications, died Saturday in New York. He was 91.

His son, Nick Hentoff, announced the death on Twitter, saying his father died while listening to jazz singer Billie Holiday.

Over a long and admired career — he was twice a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize — Mr. Hentoff was a writer and editor for the jazz magazine Down Beat, co-founded the publication Jazz Review, was immersed in efforts to bring jazz to television, briefly ran a record label, recorded major jazz musicians including Max Roach and Cecil Taylor, and wrote liner notes for John Coltrane’s landmark album “Giant Steps” (1960).

In 2003, he was one of the first nonmusicians to be recognized as a “jazz master” by the National Endowment for the Arts. Yet his interests were ranged far beyond the realm of jazz. He wrote for print publications ranging from the New Yorker magazine to the Wall Street Journal as well as Legal Times and the Washington Times. Late in his career, he was a fellow at the libertarian Cato Institute.

More (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/nat-hentoff-journalist-who-wrote-on-jazz-and-civil-liberties-dies-at-91/2017/01/08/2f67241a-d559-11e6-945a-76f69a399dd5_story.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Hentoff)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 08, 2017, 04:06:09 am
Mário Soares Dies at 92; Guided Portugal’s Shift to Democracy
http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/07/world/europe/mario-soares-dead-portugal.html

Sounds like he is an important figure in that country's history.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: andy58-in-nh on January 08, 2017, 04:14:14 pm
Columnist Nat Hentoff dies at 91
More (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/columnist-nat-hentoff-dies-at-91/2017/01/07/b738a1a2-d54f-11e6-9651-54a0154cf5b3_story.html?utm_term=.1546f4ebb5b3)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Hentoff)

One of the last great, honest liberals. He loved music, abhorred both censorship and intellectual dishonesty, and relished the role of an out-of-step outsider.

RIP: Nathan Irving Hentoff. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on January 08, 2017, 10:33:43 pm
South African pro golfer Wayne Westner commits suicide after holding wife hostage.
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Wayne Westner pulled trigger on himself in front of wife, police reveal
Matthew Savides | 2017-01-04 16:03:53.0

Former pro golfer Wayne Westner "forced his way" into his own home on the KwaZulu- Natal south coast and shot himself in front of his wife.

KwaZulu-Natal police confirmed that Westner‚ 55‚ died due to a gunshot wound to the right side of his head on Wednesday. Officers said it appeared that the couple were separated.  ...

Zwane said it was speculated that his wife was in the process of relocating to Johannesburg when Westner arrived at the estate and forced his way in. He said Westner was armed with a handgun and allegedly shot himself through the head in front of his wife.

Westner is best known for his 1996 World Cup of Golf win‚ where he teamed up with Ernie Els. He also won the SA Open twice‚ in 1988 and 1991, and more than a dozen professional events during his career.

At one stage he was 40th in the Official World Golf Rankings‚ reported the South Coast Herald. ...
Times Live (http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2017/01/04/Wayne-Westner-pulled-trigger-on-himself-in-front-of-wife-police-reveal1?platform=hootsuite)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on January 11, 2017, 06:44:49 pm
War correspondent Clare Hollingworth
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Clare Hollingworth, the veteran war correspondent who broke the news that World War II had started, has died in Hong Kong at the age of 105.

Hollingworth was born in rural Leicestershire in central England on Oct. 10, 1911. Although she grew up on a farm in the countryside, her childhood was still overshadowed by World War I, which began in 1914. As Dominique Rowe recently explored in an in-depth TIME.com profile (http://time.com/4520940/clare-hollingworth-war-correspondent-birthday-hong-kong/) of Hollingworth and her work, Hollingworth decided from a young age that she wanted to be a writer, but first spent time in Poland, arranging the evacuation of more than 3,500 political and Jewish refugees to Britain in the lead up to World War II.

When she left Poland in 1939, her expertise in that country proved to be essential to what would be the defining moment of her career, as Rowe reported:
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    Within a month of returning to England, she had secured a job as a war correspondent for the Telegraph, and almost immediately returned back to the Polish-German border in Katowice, where she stayed with a diplomat friend from the Foreign Office.

    Knowing that war may be imminent, and bolstered by the presence of a diplomatic flag, she borrowed her host’s car, and “motored off alone into Nazi Germany” to stock up on wine and aspirin. As she drove back along the border, a fabric partition separating the two countries flapped momentarily in the wind, exposing “scores, if not hundreds of tanks” in the valley below. And there was her first big scoop: the outbreak of World War II.

    Three days later, at 5 a.m. on Sept. 1, 1939, Hollingworth was awoken by the sound of tanks rolling past her window. She scrambled to call her editor, as well as the British and Polish Foreign Offices, each of whom met her news with disbelief. (At this point Poland thought it was still in negotiations with Germany.)
Hollingworth’s important role in her profession continued long after that groundbreaking scoop.  ...
Read more at TIME, via MSN (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/clare-hollingworth-journalist-who-broke-the-news-of-world-war-ii-dies-at-105/ar-BBy7nww).

(https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/clare-hollingworth-08.jpg?w=300&quality=85&w=517)
Clare in a jet, likely British RAF, during her time as Daily Telegraph defense correspondent, sometime between 1976 and 1981
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 13, 2017, 04:45:47 pm
Author William Peter Blatty, best known for The Exorcist, dies at 89

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Bill_Blatty_2009.jpg/220px-Bill_Blatty_2009.jpg)

The son of an impoverished Lebanese Catholic immigrant, Blatty graduated valedictorian of his high school class and graduated from Georgetown University and George Washington University with degrees in English literature. He spent most of his early years in various menial jobs, then spent a few years in the Air Force, where he became a public relations guru, a job he'd hold throughout most of the 1950s.

His literary breakthrough came with his book Which Way to Mecca, Jack?, a humorous memoir of his PR days. He also concocted the fictional Arabian Prince Xeer; in an appearance on You Bet Your Life, the ruse failed to fool Groucho Marx, but Blatty did win the $10,000 necessary to quit his day job and pursue writing full-time.

He wrote a number of screenplays in the 1960s, then returned to writing books in the 1970s. He remains best known for 1973's The Exorcist, for which he wrote the original book and the screenplay for the film adaptation. He eventually returned in the late 1980s to write the sequel Legion and direct the film version (renamed The Exorcist III). His other prominent work was Twinkle Twinkle Killer Kane! and its film version The Ninth Configuration.

Blatty continued to write up until his death.

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Peter_Blatty)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 13, 2017, 06:27:59 pm
Tommy Allsup, guitarist and bandmate of Buddy Holly, dies at 85

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Tommy_Allsup.jpg/220px-Tommy_Allsup.jpg)

Allsup was a member of Buddy Holly's backing band in 1959, shortly after he had left The Crickets. He was part of the party that was on the Winter Dance Party tour; Holly, the Big Bopper and Ritchie Valens chose to travel by plane from Iowa to Minnesota, while Dion and the Belmonts, along with Holly's bassist, Waylon Jennings, chose to go by bus. Allsup was also supposed to be on the plane, but with only three seats, Valens and Allsup flipped a coin for the seat. Valens won the toss, but lost his life.

Allsup never became a star himself but did leave a legacy of extensive session work with country musicians such as Merle Haggard, Willie Nelson, Roy Orbison and Bob Wills, along with some work with surf-rock group The Ventures.

Obituary from the Associated Press (https://www.yahoo.com/music/guitarist-avoided-buddy-holly-plane-crash-dies-85-013258987.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Allsup)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on January 14, 2017, 10:04:40 pm
Dick Gautier, Hymie the Robot on 'Get Smart,' Dies at 85

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Dick Gautier, who starred on Broadway in the original production of Bye, Bye Birdie and then famously played Hymie the Robot on the sitcom Get Smart, has died. He was 85...

Gautier, who started his career as a stand-up comic, received a Tony nomination for playing Conrad Birdie, the character based on Elvis Presley, in the memorable, original 1960 production of Bye, Bye Birdie, starring Dick Van Dyke...
More (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dick-gautier-dead-get-smart-actor-was-85-964369)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Gautier)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 15, 2017, 05:26:05 pm
Dick Gautier was married to Barbara Stuart, possibly better known to most as the girlfriend of Sgt. Carter, "Miss Bunny".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Stuart
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 15, 2017, 05:31:20 pm
Tommy Allsup, guitarist and bandmate of Buddy Holly, dies at 85

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Tommy_Allsup.jpg/220px-Tommy_Allsup.jpg)

Allsup was a member of Buddy Holly's backing band in 1959, shortly after he had left The Crickets. He was part of the party that was on the Winter Dance Party tour; Holly, the Big Bopper and Ritchie Valens chose to travel by plane from Iowa to Minnesota, while Dion and the Belmonts, along with Holly's bassist, Waylon Jennings, chose to go by bus. Allsup was also supposed to be on the plane, but with only three seats, Valens and Allsup flipped a coin for the seat. Valens won the toss, but lost his life.

Allsup never became a star himself but did leave a legacy of extensive session work with country musicians such as Merle Haggard, Willie Nelson, Roy Orbison and Bob Wills, along with some work with surf-rock group The Ventures.

Obituary from the Associated Press (https://www.yahoo.com/music/guitarist-avoided-buddy-holly-plane-crash-dies-85-013258987.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Allsup)

Sometimes, those fifties oldies are my favorite kind of music.  Yes, Tommy Allsup is a pivotal figure in that genre; I'm sure his achievements go far beyond being in the Crickets as the article alludes too.  I'm fairly sure he even toured still in the last 5 years. Places have rockabilly festivals and he'd be included in the performers. RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 15, 2017, 05:39:31 pm
@jmyrlefuller

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RMwl2p3L4gM/SkuTpLlDHYI/AAAAAAAAIM8/ypQDqJuMqzE/s320/Allsups+2+(1280x853).jpg)

The Allsup family got into the convenience store business.

Buddy Holly, just like in the movie, recorded some of his top hits in Clovis, New Mexico at the  Norman Petty studio.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_l7UtEA8hkTE/TUpkymZ9wTI/AAAAAAAAApQ/Zb7HiJntwHA/s400/buddy%2Bholly%2Bep%2Boh%2Bboy%2BRD.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp0xmtllMuk

That's a real fascinating history about Buddy Holly and the others involved, I'd have to brush up to get all of the details correct. <---- For example, Buddy Knox also recorded Party Doll I believe at that recording studio. There's a lot of history, "I fought the law" by the Bobby Fuller 4, well, Fuller was from El Paso... but I don't know if they recorded "I fought the law", the single there but they may have had some connections.

Bobby Fuller is another music star whose short life came to a tragic and perhaps mysterious end, I've read a few articles on it.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jul/16/the-short-life-and-mysterious-death-of-bobby-fuller-rocknroll-king-of-texas

Looks like "I fought the law" was written by Sonny Curtis, one of the Crickets in Buddy Holly's combo. Quite a lot of musical history in all of this.

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Aside from this, I enjoy going to retro-diners from time to time.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on January 15, 2017, 09:51:35 pm
Jimmy 'Superfly' Snuka, Wrestling Legend, Dead at 73

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Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka, the high-flying Fijian-born professional wrestler who rose to fame alongside icons Hulk Hogan, "Macho Man" Randy Savage and Andre the Giant in Vince McMahon's WWE (then the WWF), is dead at the age of 73.

His death comes less than a month after murder charges were dropped in the 1983 death of his then-girlfriend Nancy Argentino. WWE superstar and Snuka's daughter Tamina Snuka announced her father's death on Instagram.
More (http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/news/jimmy-superfly-snuka-wrestling-legend-dead-at-73-w461187)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Snuka)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 15, 2017, 10:57:21 pm
Pastor Eddie Long dies at 63

Long was the senior pastor of Atlanta-based New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, a megachurch in the Pentecostal vein that grew to over 25,000 parishoners during his time as pastor and amassed a net worth into the millions of dollars.

In 2010, Long, an outspoken opponent of homosexuality, was accused of having affairs with boys and young men in his care. Long denied the allegations the remainder of his life but settled the civil actions against him out of court.

Long died from an aggressive form of cancer.

Obituary from CNN (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/15/us/bishop-eddie-long-dead/index.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Long)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on January 16, 2017, 08:06:38 pm
NASA Verified account
‏@NASA

We are saddened by the loss of retired NASA astronaut Gene Cernan, the last man to walk on the moon. http://go.nasa.gov/2iEFt4w

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on January 16, 2017, 08:09:44 pm
Written about him last year:
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Astronaut Eugene Cernan’s regrets after being the last man to walk on the Moon
The 82-year-old, who was on the final Apollo mission in 1972, scratched his daughter's initials in the dust - and wishes he'd taken a photo
By Emily Retter
10 APR 2016Updated10:33, 11 APR 2016
Mirror (U.K.) (http://www.mirror.co.uk/science/astronaut-eugene-cernans-regrets-after-7729628)

If ever there was a pensioner who might regret not being part of the selfie generation, it would be Eugene Cernan.

The former NASA astronaut, 82, holds a prestigious title – the last man to have walked on the Moon .

Selfie moments do not come much more prized than that.

But 44 years ago, when his space boots pressed down into moon dust for the final time, and he lifted them on to the rungs of his lunar module’s ladder, he looked back at the prints he had left – but didn’t think to take a photo.

Nor did it cross his mind when he scratched his daughter Tracy’s initials into the greyish dust.

“I wish I’d had a camera,” says Gene. “And for the most nostalgic moment; the moment when I was going up the ladder and turned round and saw the Earth still there, still beautiful.  ...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GrouchoTex on January 16, 2017, 08:25:00 pm
@jmyrlefuller

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RMwl2p3L4gM/SkuTpLlDHYI/AAAAAAAAIM8/ypQDqJuMqzE/s320/Allsups+2+(1280x853).jpg)

The Allsup family got into the convenience store business.

Buddy Holly, just like in the movie, recorded some of his top hits in Clovis, New Mexico at the  Norman Petty studio.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_l7UtEA8hkTE/TUpkymZ9wTI/AAAAAAAAApQ/Zb7HiJntwHA/s400/buddy%2Bholly%2Bep%2Boh%2Bboy%2BRD.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp0xmtllMuk

That's a real fascinating history about Buddy Holly and the others involved, I'd have to brush up to get all of the details correct. <---- For example, Buddy Knox also recorded Party Doll I believe at that recording studio. There's a lot of history, "I fought the law" by the Bobby Fuller 4, well, Fuller was from El Paso... but I don't know if they recorded "I fought the law", the single there but they may have had some connections.

Bobby Fuller is another music star whose short life came to a tragic and perhaps mysterious end, I've read a few articles on it.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jul/16/the-short-life-and-mysterious-death-of-bobby-fuller-rocknroll-king-of-texas

Looks like "I fought the law" was written by Sonny Curtis, one of the Crickets in Buddy Holly's combo. Quite a lot of musical history in all of this.

---------

Aside from this, I enjoy going to retro-diners from time to time.

I have been to Allsups stores but did not know there was a connection.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 16, 2017, 09:06:22 pm
One of the last great, honest liberals. He loved music, abhorred both censorship and intellectual dishonesty, and relished the role of an out-of-step outsider.

RIP: Nathan Irving Hentoff.

He was a great jazz critic and a great, tireless champion of the First Amendment. And, as you said, one of the last
honest liberals. (I'd like to think he's hoisting a tall one with another one of the breed, the great Murray Kempton.)
Set his liberalism aside a moment and ponder this book, which we are much in need of re-reading:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51PQE3HJTKL._SX313_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on January 16, 2017, 10:06:30 pm
Gene Cernan, an early NASA astronaut who was the last man to set foot on the moon, died Monday, NASA announced in a tweet. He was 82.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/eugene-cernan-last-man-to-walk-on-the-moon-dead-at-82/ar-AAlVhOv?OCID=ansmsnnews11
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on January 16, 2017, 10:08:31 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roiZWgFHLDQ
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: kevindavis007 on January 16, 2017, 11:50:28 pm

Space Ping!


@Oceander
@Sanguine
@Cripplecreek
@Freya
@EC
@Joe Wooten
@r9etb
@Just_Victor
@montanajoe
@Ghost Bear
@Free Vulcan
@Idaho_Cowboy
@geronl
@Scutter   
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: kevindavis007 on January 16, 2017, 11:51:28 pm
Sad to say they are going to die off soon.. It would be a shame if we give up.  Bad enough Nixon and Fritz Mondale messed things up.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on January 16, 2017, 11:53:10 pm
The last time we went to the moon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajcs9dP2dgw
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on January 16, 2017, 11:58:49 pm
Sad on several fronts.  His passing most importantly. And the fact that we have two generations now that have never seen us walk on the moon. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on January 17, 2017, 12:01:29 am
Sad to say they are going to die off soon.. It would be a shame if we give up.  Bad enough Nixon and Fritz Mondale messed things up.

Jim McDivitt is 87. He retired from Rockwell in 95 so he's having a nice long retirement.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on January 17, 2017, 12:04:05 am
Sad on several fronts.  His passing most importantly. And the fact that we have two generations now that have never seen us walk on the moon.

Cernan was a great promoter of space exploration.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on January 17, 2017, 12:19:41 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t16-KVZ_AJ8

(http://i.imgur.com/NPeMV7N.gif)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 17, 2017, 01:35:37 am
I have been to Allsups stores but did not know there was a connection.

Just in the family, I don't know if it was Tommy's immediate family.

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Waylon, Waylon Jennings of course, was in the Crickets as well; he replaced someone from the original lineup but this is an anecdote he told of the crash:

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After a show in Clear Lake, Iowa, Holly decided to charter a small plane for his band (consisting of himself, Tommy Allsup (guitar) and Jennings.Ritchie Valens and Tommy Allsup flipped a coin for the last seat, Valens won and took Allsup’s seat. Since the Big Bopper was sick, he asked Jennings if he could take his seat on the plane. Jennings said that as long as Holly was okay with it, he was too. When Holly found out Jennings was not going to be on the plane, he jokingly told him, “I hope your ol’ bus freezes up!” Jennings responded back, “I hope your plane crashes!” Those words would haunt Jennings for decades.

http://www.historybyzim.com/2012/06/buddy-holly-waylon-jennings/

So, an unbelievably ironic incident. Of course, friends often rib each other by saying things like this imo.

It's worth reiterating, if one missed it the first time, Tommy Allsup survived because he LOST the coin toss on whom was going to ride on the plane.

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Tommy Allsup, Guitarist, Dies at 85; a Coin Toss Saved His Life
Tommy Allsup, a guitarist best known for losing a coin toss that kept him off the plane that later crashed and killed the rock ’n’ roll stars Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and the Big Bopper, died on Wednesday in Springfield, Mo. He was 85.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/arts/music/tommy-allsup-guitarist-dies-at-85-a-coin-toss-saved-his-life.html?_r=0

Feb. 3rd, the day the music died, anniversary in a few weeks. I should try to remember it here. For the Big Bopper and Richie Valens too.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Just_Victor on January 17, 2017, 01:40:53 am
Sad on several fronts.  His passing most importantly. And the fact that we have two generations now that have never seen us walk on the moon.

Gene Cernan was a solid Constitutional conservative, too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on January 17, 2017, 02:22:07 am
Gene Cernan was a solid Constitutional conservative, too.

Check out the moon dust he brought back into the LM with him. He looks whooped too.

(http://i.imgur.com/E4KzwQW.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 17, 2017, 04:09:12 pm
NASA Verified account
‏@NASA

We are saddened by the loss of retired NASA astronaut Gene Cernan, the last man to walk on the moon. http://go.nasa.gov/2iEFt4w

Listening to reports of his death on the radio this morning, I was reminded that Mr. Cernan wrote an autobiographical book about his experiences titled The Last Man on the Moon. (https://www.amazon.com/Last-Man-Moon-Astronaut-Americas/dp/0312263511/) The book was the basis for a documentary by the same name made in 2014, which Mr. Cernan participated in as a narrator. The documentary seems to be available for streaming from Netflix, for those interested.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 17, 2017, 04:11:26 pm
Listening to reports of his death on the radio this morning, I was reminded that Mr. Cernan wrote an autobiographical book about his experiences titled The Last Man on the Moon. (https://www.amazon.com/Last-Man-Moon-Astronaut-Americas/dp/0312263511/) The book was the basis for a documentary by the same name made in 2014, which Mr. Cernan participated in as a narrator. The documentary seems to be available for streaming from Netflix, for those interested.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on January 17, 2017, 04:16:07 pm
Sad on several fronts.  His passing most importantly. And the fact that we have two generations now that have never seen us walk on the moon.

They don't make men like that anymore.  it takes some real stones to allow your friends to strap you in the point of a rocket and then drive three miles away before they light the fuse!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on January 17, 2017, 04:18:21 pm
Listening to reports of his death on the radio this morning, I was reminded that Mr. Cernan wrote an autobiographical book about his experiences titled The Last Man on the Moon. (https://www.amazon.com/Last-Man-Moon-Astronaut-Americas/dp/0312263511/) The book was the basis for a documentary by the same name made in 2014, which Mr. Cernan participated in as a narrator. The documentary seems to be available for streaming from Netflix, for those interested.

Thanks.  Gonna check it out.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 17, 2017, 04:24:38 pm
Sad to say they are going to die off soon.. It would be a shame if we give up.  Bad enough Nixon and Fritz Mondale messed things up.
From the video @ cripplecreek posted: "I think the next generation should see this as a challenge. Let's see them leave footprints like these some day."

Sad to say...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 19, 2017, 11:00:16 pm
Miguel Ferrer, ‘NCIS: Los Angeles’ Actor, Dies at 61

Miguel Ferrer, the character and voice actor who appeared in shows including “NCIS: Los Angeles” and “Crossing Jordan,” and films such as “RoboCop” and “Iron Man 3,” died on Thursday of throat cancer. He was 61.

Ferrer was the son of top 1950s singer Rosemary Clooney and actor Jose Ferrer, and first cousin to George Clooney. He appeared on “NCIS: Los Angeles” for seven seasons.

Excerpted, more at the link: http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/miguel-ferrer-dead-dies-ncis-los-angeles-1201964233/ (http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/miguel-ferrer-dead-dies-ncis-los-angeles-1201964233/)

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 20, 2017, 03:39:58 am
Left-wing journalist Wayne Barrett dies at 71

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Wayne_Barrett_by_David_Shankbone.jpg/220px-Wayne_Barrett_by_David_Shankbone.jpg)

Barrett spent most of his career at the Village Voice, the alternative newspaper founded in New York City's Greenwich Village. A thorough journalist with a strong and admitted liberal lean (one that developed only during his Ivy League graduate school; he was largely a conservative Christian up through his college years), Barrett specialized in exposés of political and civic leaders, both Democrat and Republican. He devoted four full-length books to exposés of three public figures in particular: Ed Koch (whom Barrett would later admit to at least having some redeemable qualities), Donald Trump and two-time recipient Rudy Giuliani.

Barrett died of lung disease and had been diagnosed with cancer the previous year.

Obituary from the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/business/media/wayne-barrett-dead-village-voice-columnist.html?_r=0)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Barrett)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: corbe on January 20, 2017, 03:43:46 am

AP/ January 19, 2017, 9:52 PM

Wayne Barrett, NYC reporter who wrote book on Trump, dead at 71

NYC investigative reporter Wayne Barret in 2007.
  / CBS News 




Starting in the 1970s, there was no more dedicated muckraker than the gruff, relentless Barrett, a self-described “country boy from Lynchburg, Virginia” and graduate of Columbia University’s journalism school who evolved from founding a teen Republican group to becoming an impassioned leftist as an adult. Fellow journalists, many of whom tweeted tributes upon learning of his death, regarded him as a role model. Even some politicians, at times grudgingly, acknowledged his skills and integrity.

“I tell the young people still drawn to this duty that it is the most honorable one in America, and that I have never met a corrupt journalist,” Barrett wrote in his farewell column for the Voice, which laid him off at the end of 2010 after more than 30 years.

Bloomberg, the city’s mayor from 2002-2013, said in a statement that while no elected official always “saw eye-to-eye” with Barrett, he “respected his deep sense of moral purpose and encyclopedic knowledge of politics.”

“I had the chance to break bread with him on occasion, and behind the scathing pen he wielded was a good guy with a big heart who loved New York City,” Bloomberg said.

Barrett’s many scoops ranged from the criminal past of Giuliani’s father to the many votes missed by then-Sen. Alfonse D’Amato, who had accused the man who would defeat him for re-election in 1998, Democrat Charles Schumer, of similar lapses. Schumer would later say the revelation helped him win. D’Amato would call Barrett a “viper.”

“Mr. Barrett has become the unrivaled master of long, dense articles about the unsavory side of New York’s political culture,” The New York Times wrote of him in 2011. “He has passed decades digging through government archives, court transcripts, property records, police blotters and campaign filings, weaving tales of corruption and hypocrisy involving union leaders, neighborhood power brokers, real estate developers, mayors and governors.”

Few reporters knew Mr. Trump as well as did Barrett, whose death came on the eve of Mr. Trump’s swearing in as the country’s 45th president. He began covering the budding real-estate developer in the late 1970s and his expertise and the cache of records sitting in his basement drew dozens of reporters from around the world after Mr. Trump declared his candidacy in June 2015.

“The most remarkable thing is that the leading birther in the United States is succeeding this president (Obama), Barrett told “Democracy Now!” interviewer Amy Goodman shortly after Mr. Trump’s stunning defeat of Democrat Hillary Clinton. “It’s just - I mean, I just - I can’t imagine it.”

Barrett’s “Trump: The Deals and the Downfalls,” published in 1992, uncovered Mr. Trump’s ties to various unsavory characters involved with the construction of Trump Tower, investigated claims of bias against prospective black tenants in Trump buildings and prompted gaming officials in New Jersey to probe various Trump associations. Barrett also wrote books on Giuliani and another New York mayor, Edward I. Koch, co-authored with his Voice mentor, the late Jack Newfield.


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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wayne-barrett-dead-nyc-reporter-donald-trump/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wayne-barrett-dead-nyc-reporter-donald-trump/)

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: corbe on January 20, 2017, 03:45:24 am
   He's not even sworn in yet and his adversaries are starting to drop like flies. reminds me of the Clintons.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: montanajoe on January 20, 2017, 03:45:31 am
Vince Foster... :whistle:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on January 20, 2017, 07:07:04 pm
The book was the basis for a documentary by the same name made in 2014, which Mr. Cernan participated in as a narrator. The documentary seems to be available for streaming from Netflix, for those interested.

Had some time last night so I watched it on net flix.  I enjoyed it very much.  It made me sad. 1st because of his passing and 2nd because of what happened to the space program after the 1972 buget cuts. 
Couple of things I wish the producers would have covered more of was:  More on the reasoning behind the crew switch/swap on Apollo 17.  More on why Director of Flight Crew Operations Deke Slayton did so.  It looked like Gene Kranz  was pissed about it.  (The info is out there on the web..so I did look it up just to know) and WTF was Cernan doing when he screwed the pooch in that helecopter?

RIP Gene.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 22, 2017, 06:50:04 pm
Kansas City Royals Pitcher Yordano Ventura killed in car wreck in his native Dominican Republic.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/royals-pitcher-yordano-ventura-killed-in-car-crash/ar-AAm7eab?li=BBnb7Kz&OCID=ansmsnnews11

"Ventura’s death comes on the same day former Indians infielder Andy Marte was killed in a car crash in the Dominican. The accidents are unrelated. "

Andy Marte:

Former top MLB prospect Andy Marte died in car crash
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2017/01/22/former-top-mlb-prospect-andy-marte-died-car-crash/96921798/

Unrelated accidents, both in the Dominican Republic.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 22, 2017, 06:52:43 pm
Wayne Barrett:

Quote
Wayne Barrett, the legendary muckraker and teacher, has died; his beloved wife Fran telling media outlets due to interstitial lung disease. He was 71 years old.
https://www.longislandpress.com/2017/01/20/reflections-on-wayne-barrett-death-legendary-muckraker-inspiration/

Smoker?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on January 22, 2017, 07:16:32 pm
Kansas City Royals Pitcher Yordano Ventura killed in car wreck in his native Dominican Republic.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/royals-pitcher-yordano-ventura-killed-in-car-crash/ar-AAm7eab?li=BBnb7Kz&OCID=ansmsnnews11

"Ventura’s death comes on the same day former Indians infielder Andy Marte was killed in a car crash in the Dominican. The accidents are unrelated. "

Andy Marte:

Former top MLB prospect Andy Marte died in car crash
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2017/01/22/former-top-mlb-prospect-andy-marte-died-car-crash/96921798/

Unrelated accidents, both in the Dominican Republic.

@EasyAce
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 22, 2017, 09:36:03 pm
@EasyAce

@Machiavelli
Yordano Ventura, RIP: Maturity robbed (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,245013.0.html)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 23, 2017, 04:24:13 pm
Mott the Hoople bassist Peter Overend Watts dies, aged 69 (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jan/23/mott-the-hoople-bassist-peter-overend-watts-dies)

Mott the Hoople, "All the Way From Memphis" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubBpu3MHmtM)

Mott the Hoople, "The Golden Age of Rock and Roll" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzkkQL9NMgM)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 25, 2017, 12:51:50 am
Lee O'Denat, founder of WorldStarHipHop, dies at 43

O'Denat, better known by his single-letter mononym "Q," founded the black-oriented video site WorldStarHipHop. The site is notorious for its collection of hip-hop videos, softcore erotica, street fights and general misbehavior too risqué for most other video services.

O'Denat is believed to have died of a heart attack.

Obituary from TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/24/worldstarhiphop-founder-q-dead/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldStarHipHop)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: corbe on January 25, 2017, 06:48:50 pm
Mary Tyler Moore In Grave Condition

  1/25/2017 10:02 AM PST

EXCLUSIVE


Sources close to the family tell us her condition is so grim family members are coming to the hospital to say goodbye. The TV icon's long battled diabetes, and she underwent brain surgery in 2011.

One source tells us Mary has been on a respirator for more than a week.

We're told Moore is suffering from a number of health problems and recently it has become critical.

Mary starred in "The Dick Van Dyke Show" and had an incredible run with "The Mary Tyler Moore Show."


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http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/25/mary-tyler-moore-grave-condition/ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/25/mary-tyler-moore-grave-condition/)

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on January 25, 2017, 06:51:40 pm
She and Elisabeth Montgomery were my 1st crushes of the wholesome, girl next door types. 
I hope she had a good life.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 25, 2017, 06:56:24 pm
Butch Trucks, Allman Brothers Band Drummer and Co-Founder, Dead at 69 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/butch-trucks-allman-brothers-founding-member-dead-at-69-w462870)

RIP Mr. Trucks . . .

The Allman Brothers Band, "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed," live at S.U.N.Y. Stony Brook, 1971 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew9nVjQKZrk)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mrclose on January 25, 2017, 07:50:42 pm
I really loved the lady!
My prayers go out to her family. 8888crybaby

Quote
TV icon Mary Tyler Moore died on Wednesday after being hospitalized in Connecticut, her rep confirmed to The Huffington Post. She was 80.

“Today, beloved icon, Mary Tyler Moore, passed away at the age of 80 in the company of friends and her loving husband of over 33 years, Dr. S. Robert Levine. A groundbreaking actress, producer, and passionate advocate for the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, Mary will be remembered as a fearless visionary who turned the world on with her smile,” her rep Mara Buxbaum told The Huffington Post in a statement.

Moore, who was born in Brooklyn, New York, in 1936 and grew up in Los Angeles, rose to international fame starring on the 1960s sitcom “The Dick Van Dyke Show.” She later starred on the beloved 1970s sitcom “The Mary Tyler Moore Show,” which is considered to be the first show with a never-married, working woman as its central character. Moore played single, 30-year-old TV news producer Mary Richards.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mary-tyler-moore-dead-dies_us_5668663ae4b0f290e52179bd?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on January 25, 2017, 07:51:18 pm
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-38747061

Just a headline- no story yet.

Mods- not sure if this should be in obits or not
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: geronl on January 25, 2017, 07:52:13 pm
She's gonna make it after all.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 25, 2017, 07:54:40 pm
I'll eat a lobster in her honor.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on January 25, 2017, 07:57:25 pm
A remarkable woman and a great actress.  Although she was known for two sitcoms, my favorite performance was as the mother in Ordinary People.  She showed she really could do drama. 

Rest in peace, MTM.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 25, 2017, 07:59:03 pm
And, dammit, RIP Mary Tyler Moore . . .

Mary Tyler Moore Dies at 80 (http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/25/mary-tyler-moore-dies-at-80/)

The classic showdown with Carl Reiner's Alan Brady:

The Dick Van Dyke Show, from "Coast to Coast Big Mouth" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGEOjxtQtWc)

. . . and, the classic debut of her own show:

The Mary Tyler Moore Show, "Love is All Around" (or, "You got spunk! I hate spunk!") (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXOVACSSAHU)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 25, 2017, 08:02:26 pm
Alas, and dammit, she didn't make it, after all . . .

Mary Tyler Moore Dies at 80 (http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/25/mary-tyler-moore-dies-at-80/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on January 25, 2017, 08:06:40 pm
Alas, and dammit, she didn't make it, after all . . .

Mary Tyler Moore Dies at 80 (http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/25/mary-tyler-moore-dies-at-80/)

With her health issues she's lucky to have made it to 80.

I guess there's just Dick van Dyke now.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: corbe on January 25, 2017, 08:07:45 pm
   I sometimes miss the old days when Women were Women and Men were tripping all over the furniture (not drugs).

(https://i.imgflip.com/1ic5pb.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 25, 2017, 08:08:25 pm
With her health issues she's lucky to have made it to 80.

I guess there's just Dick van Dyke now.

And Carl Reiner . . .

The Dick Van Dyke Show, from "Coast to Coast Big Mouth" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGEOjxtQtWc)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on January 25, 2017, 08:11:45 pm
And Carl Reiner . . .

The Dick Van Dyke Show, from "Coast to Coast Big Mouth" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGEOjxtQtWc)

Dang just looked him up - he looks as good as his son, Meathead.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 25, 2017, 08:16:06 pm
Rose Marie is still alive and (presumably) well, too . . .

The Dick Van Dyke Show, "Dear Sally Rogers" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l0gjB-eLgk)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on January 25, 2017, 08:18:24 pm
Rose Marie is still alive and (presumably) well, too . . .

The Dick Van Dyke Show, "Dear Sally Rogers" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l0gjB-eLgk)

Your right, she's 93. From the sound of her voice I would've thought she was/is a heavy smoker.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Rivergirl on January 25, 2017, 08:25:59 pm
And shame on the msm for reporting on all the travails  of her life.
Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: starstruck on January 25, 2017, 08:38:33 pm
I really loved the lady!
My prayers go out to her family. 8888crybaby

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mary-tyler-moore-dead-dies_us_5668663ae4b0f290e52179bd?
Outlived by Lou Grant and Sue Ann Nivens. Go figure. RIP MTM.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: alicewonders on January 25, 2017, 08:44:50 pm
Beautiful, funny and classy lady!  RIP Mary Tyler Moore.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 25, 2017, 08:50:12 pm
Rest In Peace
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Millee on January 25, 2017, 09:00:33 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4XHXeiMRSk

Aaaaawww - bet they all had a hoot working on that show. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on January 25, 2017, 09:10:22 pm
Outlived by Lou Grant and Sue Ann Nivens. Go figure. RIP MTM.

Valerie Harper, Cloris Leachman, Gavin MacLeod and Georgette Engel are still living too.

Ted Knight went way too soon.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 25, 2017, 09:17:18 pm
One of the funniest bits ever, and perhaps, strangely appropriate, The Funeral of Chuckles the Clown:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92I04DkMEps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92I04DkMEps)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 25, 2017, 09:20:20 pm
Looks like 2017 is picking up where 2016 left off.   **nononono*
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: verga on January 25, 2017, 09:46:20 pm
Rest in Peace, she was a very forward thinking woman, and a heck of an actress. OooooooooH Robbbbbb.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 25, 2017, 09:52:31 pm
One of the funniest bits ever, and perhaps, strangely appropriate, The Funeral of Chuckles the Clown:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92I04DkMEps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92I04DkMEps)

Classic!! So was . . .

The Mary Tyler Moore Show, "Toulouse Latrec is One of My Favourite Artists" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYL4xCkC9j8)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 25, 2017, 09:58:34 pm
The Dick Van Dyke Show, "It May Look Like a Walnut" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb-FCsGSW8w)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on January 25, 2017, 10:02:11 pm
The Dick Van Dyke Show, "It May Look Like a Walnut" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb-FCsGSW8w)

One of my favorites also! 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on January 25, 2017, 10:07:23 pm
A pioneer and a beautiful lady.  SO funny!

I'll never forget her singing, "It's quarter to three, there's no one in the place, except you and me.  So set 'em up Joe..."
in Lou Grant's office.

Just hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_XquQO_kHg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_XquQO_kHg)

Found the youtube!  One of my favorite MTM scenes...... especially since she really was such a great singer and entertainer.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 25, 2017, 10:11:20 pm
(http://www.notesontheroad.com/images/stories/yings_links/Today_In/marytm.jpg)


RIP, Mary. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 25, 2017, 11:13:58 pm
And, dammit, RIP Mary Tyler Moore . . .

Mary Tyler Moore Dies at 80 (http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/25/mary-tyler-moore-dies-at-80/)

The classic showdown with Carl Reiner's Alan Brady:

The Dick Van Dyke Show, from "Coast to Coast Big Mouth" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGEOjxtQtWc)

. . . and, the classic debut of her own show:

The Mary Tyler Moore Show, "Love is All Around" (or, "You got spunk! I hate spunk!") (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXOVACSSAHU)
RIP, m'am, and thanks for the entertainment.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: uglybiker on January 26, 2017, 05:47:53 am
Butch Trucks, Drummer and Founding Member of The Allman Brothers Band, Dies at 69


The Allman Brothers Band co-founder Butch Trucks has passed away at the age of 69.

No cause of death has yet been revealed for Trucks, who played drums alongside Jai "Jaimoe" Johnny Johanson throughout the Allmans' 46-year on-and-off history. He died Tuesday evening (Jan. 24) in West Palm Beach, Fla.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/7669018/butch-trucks-dead-allman-brothers-band-drummer-founding-member
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on January 26, 2017, 09:44:40 am
Butch Trucks is a nice proper southern name. RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod2 on January 26, 2017, 04:24:02 pm
After a day or two, separate threads about the death of a prominent person generally are merged into the Obituaries thread. Thanks for your understanding.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 26, 2017, 05:27:15 pm
Butch Trucks, Drummer and Founding Member of The Allman Brothers Band, Dies at 69

Did you know: Butch Trucks was a nephew of the third man ever to throw two no-hitters in a single major league
season: Virgil (Fire) Trucks, who did it for the Detroit Tigers in 1952.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: dfwgator on January 26, 2017, 08:50:16 pm
Butch Trucks, Drummer and Founding Member of The Allman Brothers Band, Dies at 69


The Allman Brothers Band co-founder Butch Trucks has passed away at the age of 69.

No cause of death has yet been revealed for Trucks, who played drums alongside Jai "Jaimoe" Johnny Johanson throughout the Allmans' 46-year on-and-off history. He died Tuesday evening (Jan. 24) in West Palm Beach, Fla.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/7669018/butch-trucks-dead-allman-brothers-band-drummer-founding-member

Suicide
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4157864/Allman-Brothers-drummer-Butch-Trucks-shot-head.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on January 27, 2017, 08:11:21 am
LOS ANGELES  - Mike Connors, who starred as a hard-hitting private eye on the long-running television series “Mannix,” has died. He was 91. 8/15/1925 - 1/26/2017
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-connors-who-played-hard-hitting-private-eye-mannix-dies-at-91/
RIP Mannix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF9bhAfl0rI
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on January 27, 2017, 11:27:10 am
MSN (http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/mike-connors-%e2%80%98mannix%e2%80%99-star-dies-at-91/ar-AAmi9nv?li=BBnbfcL)
Mike Connors, best known for playing detective Joe Mannix on 1960s and ’70s show “Mannix,” died Thursday in Tarzana, Calif. He was 91.

He had been diagnosed a week ago with leukemia, according to his son-in-law Mike Condon.

“Mannix” ran for eight seasons from 1968 to 1975 and was the last series from Desilu Productions. Connors won a Golden Globe for his performance as a tough, athletic investigator, who in quintessential detective show style, insisted on doing things his own way and often got beat up in the process. He drove an impressive series of muscle cars including a Dodge Dart and Chevrolet Camaro.

Desilu president Lucille Ball convinced CBS not to cancel the show despite initial poor ratings, and the show caught on after being retooled into a somewhat more conventional detective series. Mannix’s secretary, played by Gail Fisher, was one of few African-American actresses on TV at the time.  ...

Born Kreker J. Ohanian in Fresno, Calif., Connors was of Armenian descent. He played basketball at UCLA where he was nicknamed “Touch,” and was credited in his first few films as Touch Connors. In the 1950s, Connors appeared in the John Wayne film “Island in the Sky” and in Cecil B. DeMille’s “The Ten Commandments.”

Connors is survived by his wife Mary Lou, daughter Dena and granddaughter Cooper.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on January 27, 2017, 03:46:43 pm
I loved Mannix!   RIP, Krekor Ohanian.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 27, 2017, 04:25:17 pm
I loved Mannix!   RIP, Krekor Ohanian.

I liked the show here and there myself, but my mother loved it. RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on January 27, 2017, 06:49:52 pm
I liked the show here and there myself, but my mother loved it. RIP.

Funny - I watched it with my Mom, who loved it too.

(We watched The FBI together too.  ^-^)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 27, 2017, 07:33:09 pm
Funny - I watched it with my Mom, who loved it too.

(We watched The FBI together too.  ^-^)

We were big on The FBI when my father was alive. Not to mention Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea,
McHale's Navy, and (my mother particularly) The Virginian, the 90-minute western series. And,
The Fugitive . . .
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 27, 2017, 07:34:49 pm
Funny - I watched it with my Mom, who loved it too.

(We watched The FBI together too.  ^-^)

Come to think of it, I always wondered if Mary Tyler Moore was a fan of The FBI, since she---like
Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. in The FBI's closing credits---drove a Mustang in her show's opening credits.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on January 27, 2017, 09:02:20 pm
MSN (http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/mike-connors-%e2%80%98mannix%e2%80%99-star-dies-at-91/ar-AAmi9nv?li=BBnbfcL)
Mike Connors, best known for playing detective Joe Mannix on 1960s and ’70s show “Mannix,” died Thursday in Tarzana, Calif. He was 91.

He had been diagnosed a week ago with leukemia, according to his son-in-law Mike Condon.

“Mannix” ran for eight seasons from 1968 to 1975 and was the last series from Desilu Productions. Connors won a Golden Globe for his performance as a tough, athletic investigator, who in quintessential detective show style, insisted on doing things his own way and often got beat up in the process. He drove an impressive series of muscle cars including a Dodge Dart and Chevrolet Camaro.


Okay,   He drove a Dodge Dart GTS and then a Dodge Challenger and a Plymouth Cuda.  No way Joe would be caught dead in a camaro.  Specially since Chrysler supplied the cars!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 27, 2017, 09:12:23 pm
Okay,   He drove a Dodge Dart GTS and then a Dodge Challenger and a Plymouth Cuda.  No way Joe would be caught dead in a camaro.  Specially since Chrysler supplied the cars!

It wasn't really a GTS. George Barris customized a GTS. The car still exists in a guys collection.....

(https://assets.hemmings.com/story_image/156121-500-0@2x.jpg?rev=2)

https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/mus/2009/12/Modified-for-Mannix---1968-Dodge-Dart-GTS/2530711.html

And if you can ever find the pilot, Mannix worked for some govt' outfit and had a George Barris customized Toro. I think he worked for the govt' in the first season too.

(http://www3.telus.net/toronado/UTMannixStunt.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on January 27, 2017, 09:19:21 pm
It wasn't really a GTS. George Barris customized a GTS. The car still exists in a guys collection.....

(https://assets.hemmings.com/story_image/156121-500-0@2x.jpg?rev=2)

https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/mus/2009/12/Modified-for-Mannix---1968-Dodge-Dart-GTS/2530711.html

And if you can ever find the pilot, Mannix worked for some govt' outfit and had a George Barris customized Toro. I think he worked for the govt' in the first season too.

(http://www3.telus.net/toronado/UTMannixStunt.jpg)

Cool.  I read in the last years of the show when Chrysler stopped building cuda verts the guys would get 1971 and 72 grilles and headlights and put them on the old 1969/70 Cuda to keep it fresh.  Or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: andy58-in-nh on January 27, 2017, 09:20:07 pm
Okay,   He drove a Dodge Dart GTS and then a Dodge Challenger and a Plymouth Cuda.  No way Joe would be caught dead in a camaro.  Specially since Chrysler supplied the cars!
I'd forgotten he was a Mopar Man. What I remembered was that he had this secretary Peggy (Gail Fisher) who was pretty easy on the eyes...

(http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images/reviews/190/1256553067_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 28, 2017, 12:14:14 am
Barbara Hale dies at 94

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Barbara_Hale_in_Jolson_Sings_Again_trailer.jpg/220px-Barbara_Hale_in_Jolson_Sings_Again_trailer.jpg)

After a film career that lasted over a decade, Hale landed her signature role, that of legal secretary Della Street on the Perry Mason TV series, in 1957. She held onto the role throughout the entire series' run, and in the TV movies as well. Typecast the rest of her life, her acting career was thereafter limited to bit parts and guest roles. She was married to Bill Williams until his death, a union that brought three children, one of whom, William Katt, went on to be a famous actor himself.

Her cause of death was listed as COPD.

Obituary from MeTV (http://www.metv.com/stories/rip-barbara-hale-of-perry-mason/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Hale)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on January 28, 2017, 01:37:05 am
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/a/T2eC16JHJHYE9nzpcwS3BQZ4fInrcg~~/s-l1600.jpg)

Used to own one just like this right down to the color.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on January 28, 2017, 01:43:08 am
Aw, man!  Another TV icon from my youth has gone.  I watched Perry Mason religiously as a young kid.  Thanks to Della Street, I became a legal secretary.  She was my inspiration.  Of course, no legal secretary I knew of was anything like her. But that's ok.  That  career was very good to me. 

Now that I'm retired, I still watch reruns of Perry Mason. It's rather fun, especially when I see the big honkin' cars that were popular during that era.  In those days, cars looked like cars, not boxes on wheels. 

Della Street was a classy lady, and I believe Barbara Hale was in real life, too.  Rest in peace,,Barbara Halel
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on January 28, 2017, 01:45:36 am
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/a/T2eC16JHJHYE9nzpcwS3BQZ4fInrcg~~/s-l1600.jpg)

Used to own one just like this right down to the color.

Man the lead sleds you could buy for $2000 dollars back then.    It is a damn shame. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 28, 2017, 01:46:37 am
Barbara Hale dies at 94

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Barbara_Hale_in_Jolson_Sings_Again_trailer.jpg/220px-Barbara_Hale_in_Jolson_Sings_Again_trailer.jpg)

After a film career that lasted over a decade, Hale landed her signature role, that of legal secretary Della Street on the Perry Mason TV series, in 1957. She held onto the role throughout the entire series' run, and in the TV movies as well. Typecast the rest of her life, her acting career was thereafter limited to bit parts and guest roles. She was married to Bill Williams until his death, a union that brought three children, one of whom, William Katt, went on to be a famous actor himself.

Her cause of death was listed as COPD.

Obituary from MeTV (http://www.metv.com/stories/rip-barbara-hale-of-perry-mason/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Hale)
I used to watch that show when I was young, and it almost convinced me to go into law. (I found something I liked even better, though.)
Anyhow, Sad she's gone, and may she RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 28, 2017, 02:01:43 am
John Hurt, Oscar-Nominated Star of 'The Elephant Man,' Dies at 77

John Hurt, the esteemed British actor known for his burry voice and weathered visage — one that was kept hidden for his most acclaimed role, that of the deformed John Merrick in David Lynch’s The Elephant Man — has died, according to reports from several British newspapers. He was 77.

The two-time Oscar nominee's six-decade career also included turns on the BBC’s Doctor Who and in A Man for All Seasons (1966), Midnight Express (1978) and three Harry Potter films.

He announced in June 2015 that he had been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.

More at the link: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/john-hurt-dead-elephant-man-809521 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/john-hurt-dead-elephant-man-809521)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: corbe on January 28, 2017, 02:40:01 am
 John Hurt dead at 77
By Joe Tacopino
January 27, 2017 | 8:22pm



Award winning actor John Hurt reportedly died on Friday after a battle with cancer.

The 77-year-old actor, who starred in films such as “Harry Potter” and “The Elephant Man,” passed away after suffering from pancreatic cancer, according to London’s Mirror newspaper.

Hurt contemplated his demise during an interview he did in 2015 while fighting the disease.

“I can’t say I worry about mortality, but it’s impossible to get to my age and not have a little contemplation of it,” Hurt said.

“We’re all just passing time, and occupy our chair very briefly.”


http://pagesix.com/2017/01/27/john-hurt-dead-at-77/ (http://pagesix.com/2017/01/27/john-hurt-dead-at-77/)

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 28, 2017, 02:40:02 am
John Hurt, Oscar-Nominated Star of 'The Elephant Man,' Dies at 77

John Hurt, the esteemed British actor known for his burry voice and weathered visage — one that was kept hidden for his most acclaimed role, that of the deformed John Merrick in David Lynch’s The Elephant Man — has died, according to reports from several British newspapers. He was 77.

The two-time Oscar nominee's six-decade career also included turns on the BBC’s Doctor Who and in A Man for All Seasons (1966), Midnight Express (1978) and three Harry Potter films.

He announced in June 2015 that he had been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.

More at the link: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/john-hurt-dead-elephant-man-809521 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/john-hurt-dead-elephant-man-809521)
He had a tremendous career.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on January 28, 2017, 03:53:34 am
He was great as Caligula in I Claudius.

And he scared the pants off me in Alien.

I don't know why he never got a knighthood.

RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 28, 2017, 04:06:11 am
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/a/T2eC16JHJHYE9nzpcwS3BQZ4fInrcg~~/s-l1600.jpg)

Used to own one just like this right down to the color.

LOL. Looks like you had Dodge Fever. I have a fetish for woodgrain applique on the dash so I was never a fan of those.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on January 28, 2017, 04:18:15 am
LOL. Looks like you had Dodge Fever. I have a fetish for woodgrain applique on the dash so I was never a fan of those.

Two things Frank!

1. The chicks loved it

2. It ran like a scalded cat!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 28, 2017, 04:22:07 am
Two things Frank!

1. The chicks loved it

2. It ran like a scalded cat!

That's cool, but in between getting laid you have to stare at the gauges going back and forth to work. I like a pleasant upscale experience for that. It gets me through the day.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on January 28, 2017, 04:30:17 am
That's cool, but in between getting laid you have to stare at the gauges going back and forth to work. I like a pleasant upscale experience for that. It gets me through the day.

LOL!  I was much younger then Frank and only had a blood supply large enough for one head at a time!

I might agree with you today!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 28, 2017, 05:06:21 am
LOL!  I was much younger then Frank and only had a blood supply large enough for one head at a time!

I might agree with you today!

LOL. I hear ya. My first real pick up car was a brand new '85 Delta 88 Royale Brougham coupe that was silver with a velor burgundy interior I ordered. Had power everything and a digital cassette player. Previous to that I drove $500 garbage.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 29, 2017, 01:30:40 am
Black Sabbath Keyboardist Geoff Nicholls.
http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2017/01/28/512175669/geoff-nicholls-longtime-keyboardist-for-black-sabbath-dies-aged-68

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/88868640/black-sabbath-keyboardist-geoff-nicholls-dies-aged-68

I'm sure Sabbath had a lot of different band members, I think they are originally a band from Birmingham, England.

RIP;

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 29, 2017, 01:31:45 am
On regular tv, you still have to have the right equipment I think but Mannix is shown on Icons and Heroes, the tv channel. Enjoyable drama.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 29, 2017, 01:41:41 am
On regular tv, you still have to have the right equipment I think but Mannix is shown on Icons and Heroes, the tv channel. Enjoyable drama.

Or, if someone's a huge fan with a little extra dough to spend, you can get the complete series on DVD
for $75.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 29, 2017, 01:53:48 am
He was great as Caligula in I Claudius.

And he scared the pants off me in Alien.

I don't know why he never got a knighthood.

RIP
It might please you to know he was Knighted in 2015.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on January 29, 2017, 02:04:57 am
LOL. I hear ya. My first real pick up car was a brand new '85 Delta 88 Royale Brougham coupe that was silver with a velor burgundy interior I ordered. Had power everything and a digital cassette player. Previous to that I drove $500 garbage.

@Frank Cannon   That was a pimpin machine.  But a real dog if you had run from a mad trick with that Corporate GM Motor with the funny E4ME Quadrajet.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 29, 2017, 05:58:42 am
@Frank Cannon   That was a pimpin machine.  But a real dog if you had run from a mad trick with that Corporate GM Motor with the funny E4ME Quadrajet.

That Olds was a slug. Those 307's put out so little power that I was almost T-boned a couple times. One of my buddies in the corporate office had a Crown Vic with the newly refined FI system on the 302's that would take my ass off the line every time. At least the Delta was nicer looking.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on January 29, 2017, 12:55:53 pm
It might please you to know he was Knighted in 2015.

It does. Thank you so much. @Smokin Joe
He really deserved it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 31, 2017, 07:10:19 pm
Asia Co-Founder, King Crimson Member John Wetton Dead at 67 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=26&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiyxqqviu3RAhUS9WMKHRRtAh0QFgh3MBk&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Fmusic%2Fnews%2Fasia-co-founder-king-crimson-member-john-wetton-dead-at-67-w464089&usg=AFQjCNHi4QXsa9U7TIvBo96gZQfJ272yZw&sig2=IUYalzuBTGEb2OZTV-_OwQ)

An excellent bassist/vocalist/songwriter, felled by colon cancer.

My two favourite performances by him:

King Crimson, "Starless" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfR6_V91fG8)

Asia, "Sole Survivor" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQqmUZDAZX0)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on January 31, 2017, 08:00:34 pm
Dang, Asia is one of my favorite bands from the 80s.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: dfwgator on January 31, 2017, 08:16:59 pm
 Hasn't been a good last few months for King Crimson fans, with Greg Lake passing just a few months ago.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on January 31, 2017, 09:06:30 pm
Dang, Asia is one of my favorite bands from the 80s.

I liked their first album. But I loved the King Crimson in which Wetton played. Crimson
in the early to mid 1970s had such an unstable lineup (you could win bets asking people to
guess the members who stayed for more than one full album) that, when the lineup featuring
Robert Fripp (guitar, mellotron), David Cross (violin, viola, mellotron), John Wetton (bass,
vocals), and Bill Bruford (drums) lasted two albums (officially, they were a trio down to
Fripp, Wetton, and Bruford for Red, but Cross appeared on the album--and co-composed
two thirds of the material---as did a number of Crimson alumni; at the time, it was thought the
band was going out in a blaze of glory with that jewel of an album---nobody knew Fripp would
reform the group with yet another lineup and an entirely new approach centered on interlocking
guitars by the 1980s), there were those clamoring to put it in the Guinness Book of World
Records
.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on January 31, 2017, 10:44:55 pm
Dang, Asia is one of my favorite bands from the 80s.

Loved em!. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on January 31, 2017, 11:12:51 pm
Quote

Local Firefighter Sara Thomas Loses Battle With Cancer

Posted Jan 31, 2017 4:02 PM CST
Updated Jan 31, 2017 4:32 PM CST
 
By KMIR News Staff

Sara Thomas, a 41-year-old CAL FIRE Firefighter passed away early this morning; January 31, 2017 after a long and courageous battle with cancer. Sara was surrounded by her loving family; including her husband Isaac and her twin daughter’s Olivia and Mirna at her Desert Hot Springs home when she passed. Sara was an amazing warrior, and she fought to the very end. She is survived by her husband, and daughters, and will be dearly missed by her family and friends.

Continued: http://www.kmir.com/story/34392690/local-firefighter-sara-thomas-loses-battle-with-cancer


Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on February 01, 2017, 12:07:05 am
Thank God it looks like we're finally reaching the end of the probate fight over my mom's estate with her estranged husband and the only thing he gets is a 10 year old Ford Taurus which is pretty good for us in a state that says he gets at least a 3rd of the total.

He snagged the car the morning after my mom died and my lawyer reported it stolen from the estate. Te idiot was given the choice of returning the car or signing off on the estate but because he's a drug addict he no longer has the car. Apparently he decided that he didn't want to explain why he can't produce the car and his lawyer knew he wasn't going to get paid.

This evening we got the call that our attorney had the signed paper in hand and all my sisters and I need to do is sign it ourselves.

I knew I would like our attorney (Ryan Phillips) from the minute I walked into his office and saw a floor to ceiling picture of Ronald Reagan laughing.

(http://i.imgur.com/IpP5Iki.png)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 01, 2017, 03:24:28 am
That whole "Lark's Tongue In Aspic" for me, is a landmark album, one that I have pursued through the years because it is so unique; Wetton sang vocals on that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larks%27_Tongues_in_Aspic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muS7v7p73y4&index=3&list=PL94gOvpr5yt2u3ORmaSuvFp6Hg3DV8V3k

And I appreciated "Starless and Bible Black" (The Night watch)  and then, the live album "USA".  Both with Wetton it, everyone knows the first album and the following "Wake of Poseidon" is okay but I really liked that lineup, on "Red" as well, which is hailed by many.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on February 01, 2017, 02:18:47 pm
That whole "Lark's Tongue In Aspic" for me, is a landmark album, one that I have pursued through the years because it is so unique; Wetton sang vocals on that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larks%27_Tongues_in_Aspic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muS7v7p73y4&index=3&list=PL94gOvpr5yt2u3ORmaSuvFp6Hg3DV8V3k

And I appreciated "Starless and Bible Black" (The Night watch)  and then, the live album "USA".  Both with Wetton it, everyone knows the first album and the following "Wake of Poseidon" is okay but I really liked that lineup, on "Red" as well, which is hailed by many.

I saw the meat of the Lark's Tongues in Aspic lineup live in New York in 1974 (Jaime Muir, the
percussionist, had left the band), before they made Red. They were a remarkable live band,
even if you wondered just how much in the way of nerves was involved in their carrying two
mellotrons with them for live performances. (For those who don't remember: Crimson in those years
depended on the instrument enough that at least two in the lineup---in the case of the Larks-
era band, it would be guitarist Robert Fripp plus violinist David Cross---played the instrument.)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 02, 2017, 03:15:36 am
I saw the meat of the Lark's Tongues in Aspic lineup live in New York in 1974 (Jaime Muir, the
percussionist, had left the band), before they made Red. They were a remarkable live band,
even if you wondered just how much in the way of nerves was involved in their carrying two
mellotrons with them for live performances. (For those who don't remember: Crimson in those years
depended on the instrument enough that at least two in the lineup---in the case of the Larks-
era band, it would be guitarist Robert Fripp plus violinist David Cross---played the instrument.)

Great story, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on February 05, 2017, 04:50:12 pm
Gervase de Peyer

Quote
We have been informed by close friends of the death of Gervase de Peyer, the foremost British clarinet player of his time. Gervase was 90.

A founder of the Melos Ensemble, with whom he recorded extensively, Gervase was principal clarinet of the London Symphony Orchestra from 1956 to 1973. He was also a founder of the Chamber Music Society of Lincoln Center and an influential teacher.
More (http://slippedisc.com/2017/02/sadness-a-clarinet-legend-has-died/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gervase_de_Peyer)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLVxj2YQuJ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39DlB4jv1w4

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 05, 2017, 06:45:11 pm
Bump to get this topic in my "New Replies" page....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on February 08, 2017, 02:42:32 am
Comic “Professor” Irwin Corey dies at 102

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Irwin_Corey_1963.JPG/200px-Irwin_Corey_1963.JPG)

Corey was a comic that was fairly popular through the mid-20th century. His best-known schtick was “The World's Foremost Authority,” a satire of university professors and scientific jargon; he would invariably begin each of his monologues with "However," followed by a string of buzzwords and digressions that ended up making his entire speech nonsense.

He appeared only occasionally on film and television; he might have been more popular had it not been for his open support of communism, which put him on a Hollywood blacklist, the effects of which Corey claimed cost him work well through the 1980s. He was still at least politically active as recently as 2016, when he endorsed Bernie Sanders.

Corey died in New York City of natural causes. He was predeceased by his wife of 70 years in 2011.

Obituary from the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/irwin-corey-comic-who-styled-himself-the-worlds-foremost-authority-dies-at-102/2017/02/07/b39560ae-ed36-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.d7b5a09d7ab6)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irwin_Corey)

Corey in 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxtN0xxzfsw
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on February 08, 2017, 02:53:03 am
Actor Richard Hatch, of Battlestar Galactica fame, dies at 71

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Richard_Hatch_1977.JPG/220px-Richard_Hatch_1977.JPG)

In his mid-20s, Hatch landed his first acting role on the brand-new soap opera All My Children. After a few recurring roles, at the ripe old age of 33 Hatch had emerged as a teen idol. It was then, in 1978, when he landed his most famous role, that of Commander Apollo on the cult sci-fi classic Battlestar Galactica.

His acting career slowly dwindled in the 1980s, and in the late 1990s, Hatch tried to pitch a revival/continuation of Battlestar Galactica, only to get rejected by rightsholder Universal Pictures, who decided to make a remake instead. Initially very bitter over the rejection, Hatch eventually befriended the producer of the new series, who gave him a recurring role, that of antihero demagogue Tom Zarek.

Hatch died of pancreatic cancer.

Obituary from New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/richard-hatch-battlestar-galactica-star-dead-71-article-1.2966680)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hatch_(actor))
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: montanajoe on February 08, 2017, 03:16:56 am
Comic “Professor” Irwin Corey dies at 102

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Irwin_Corey_1963.JPG/200px-Irwin_Corey_1963.JPG)

Corey was a comic that was fairly popular through the mid-20th century. His best-known schtick was “The World's Foremost Authority,” a satire of university professors and scientific jargon; he would invariably begin each of his monologues with "However," followed by a string of buzzwords and digressions that ended up making his entire speech nonsense.

He appeared only occasionally on film and television; he might have been more popular had it not been for his open support of communism, which put him on a Hollywood blacklist, the effects of which Corey claimed cost him work well through the 1980s. He was still at least politically active as recently as 2016, when he endorsed Bernie Sanders.

Corey died in New York City of natural causes. He was predeceased by his wife of 70 years in 2011.

Obituary from the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/irwin-corey-comic-who-styled-himself-the-worlds-foremost-authority-dies-at-102/2017/02/07/b39560ae-ed36-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.d7b5a09d7ab6)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irwin_Corey)

Corey in 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxtN0xxzfsw

He was indistinguishable from more than a few of the prof's I had as an undergraduate. For me his humor was to close to real life to be belly laugh funny but I always kinda liked him anyway RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on February 08, 2017, 09:49:33 am
Just finished watching the Galactica series reboot a couple of weeks ago. Hatch was great in both of them.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on February 08, 2017, 11:53:00 am
I remember Professor Corey on a number of shows, including a daytime talk show hosted by Mike Douglas.  I didn't realize Corey was still around.  Making it to 100 plus is an accomplishment.  Didn't know he was a supporter of communism.  Doesn't matter now.  May God rest his soul and give comfort to his family.  Corey was funny.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on February 11, 2017, 12:38:40 am
Little Caesar's founder and Detroit Tigers owner Mike Illitch dies . . .

Mike Ilitch, owner of Tigers and Red Wings, dies at age 87 (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18661440/mike-ilitch-owner-detroit-tigers-red-wings-dies-age-87)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: corbe on February 11, 2017, 01:23:33 am
Billionaire Little Caesars Pizza founder, sportsman Mike Ilitch has died at 87

(http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2014/02/24/Champions/~/media/E04212EF2C914BE7B279979F0A68E28C.ashx)

Danielle Salisbury | Danielle_Salisbury@mlive.com By  Danielle Salisbury | Danielle_Salisbury@mlive.com   
on February 10, 2017 at 7:15 PM, updated February 10, 2017 at 8:09 PM


 DETROIT, MI - Little Caesars Pizza founder Mike Ilitch, the billionaire sportsman and champion for Detroit, died Friday at an area hospital.

He was 87.

"My father was a once-in-a-generation entrepreneur, visionary and leader, setting the tone for our organization and our family," his son and Ilitch Holdings Inc. President and CEO Christopher Ilitch said in a statement. "He made such a positive impact in the world of sports, in business and in the community, and we will remember him for his unwavering commitment to his employees, his passion for Detroit, his generosity to others and his devotion to his family and friends."

Ilitch was a long-time owner of both the Detroit Red Wings and the Detroit Tigers.


<..snip..>
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2017/02/billionaire_little_caesars_piz.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2017/02/billionaire_little_caesars_piz.html)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on February 11, 2017, 02:06:40 am
Tragic news out of Detroit, as the owner of the Tigers and Red Wings--Mike Ilitch--has passed away at the elderly age of 87.

Ilitch bought the Red Wings in 1982, and the Tigers ten years later. The legendary owner gained his fortune via the Little Caesars Pizza chain.

Under his ownership, the Red Wings put together the most successful streak in NHL history--making the playoffs every year since 1993. Meanwhile, the Tigers managed to claw their way back from mediocrity and have won the American League twice since 2006.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/breaking-legendary-tigers-owner-mike-ilitch-passes-away/ar-AAmOR4d?OCID=ansmsnnews11
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 11, 2017, 05:24:53 am
My condolences.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on February 11, 2017, 10:18:40 pm
Chavo Guerrero Sr. dies of liver cancer (great professional wrestler)

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Chavo Guerrero Jr. announced today that his father, Chavo Guerrero Sr. -- or Chavo Classic as he was known as in WWE while accompanying his son to the ring -- died from liver cancer on February 11. He was 68.

"As believer in Christ Jesus, he is now in Paradise. Today is a Sad day in the Guerrero Family," wrote Guerrero Jr. in an Instagram post.

Guerrero Sr. had been diagnosed with liver cancer in early January.
More (http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Wrestling/2017/02/11/22703506.html)

Chavo Guerrero Sr. Has Passed Away At Age 68 (with several videos) (http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/chavo-guerrero-senior-classic-dies/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavo_Guerrero_Sr.)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on February 12, 2017, 05:36:03 pm
Basketball player Fab Melo dies at 26

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Fab_Melo_%28cropped%29.jpg/250px-Fab_Melo_%28cropped%29.jpg)

Melo, a native of Brazil, first rose to fame at Syracuse University, where he was a major factor in the Orange's NCAA tournament runs in 2011 and 2012. It soon emerged, however, that Melo, whose native language is Portugese, spoke almost no English, and that Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim had forged essays in Melo's name to keep him eligible.

Melo briefly played in the NBA, where he was a major bust, playing only 6 games and seeing only 6 minutes per game in those contests. He had returned to Brazil in 2014 to continue his playing career and died in his sleep of unknown causes February 12, 2017.

Obituary from ESPN (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18668751/former-syracuse-boston-celtics-center-fab-melo-dies-brazil)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fab_Melo)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on February 12, 2017, 06:12:02 pm
Jazz-pop singer Al Jarreau dies at 76

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Al_Jarreau_Molde.jpg/320px-Al_Jarreau_Molde.jpg)

Jarreau was a vocal rehabilitation specialist by trade who pursued music as a side hobby beginning in 1967. That side hobby turned into a career of its own in the 1970s and 1980s, with Jarreau charting several hits a year on Billboard's R&B charts and a few hits on the Hot 100 as well. He continued to perform until shortly before his death from what was attributed to exhaustion.

Death notice from TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/12/al-jarreau-dead-at-76/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jarreau)

Jarreau's "We're in This Love Together," his biggest hit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otVH5cv9z1A
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on February 12, 2017, 08:01:07 pm
Not familiar with college hoops, but it's sad to see such a young man pass at only 26.  RIP.

Al Jarreau I do remember.  Loved his voice.  We're In This Love Together was one of my favorite songs.  RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 13, 2017, 07:08:41 pm
Quentin Moses and others die in housefire in Georgia, he was a former NFL, UGA player.
http://onlineathens.com/local-news/2017-02-12/former-cedar-shoals-uga-football-player-quentin-moses-dies-trying-save-woman

Then, 

Football player, Jeremy Geathers, stuck and killed by a Limo in Las Vegas,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Geathers#Orlando_Predators

Quote
Geathers was the son of former NFL defensive lineman and two-time Super Bowl winner James 'Jumpy' Geathers and the cousin of current Indianapolis Colts safety Clayton Geathers.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4219794/Ex-Orlando-Predators-player-struck-killed-limo.html#ixzz4YasnQZls
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Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: verga on February 14, 2017, 03:10:38 pm
Jazz-pop singer Al Jarreau dies at 76

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Al_Jarreau_Molde.jpg/320px-Al_Jarreau_Molde.jpg)

Jarreau was a vocal rehabilitation specialist by trade who pursued music as a side hobby beginning in 1967. That side hobby turned into a career of its own in the 1970s and 1980s, with Jarreau charting several hits a year on Billboard's R&B charts and a few hits on the Hot 100 as well. He continued to perform until shortly before his death from what was attributed to exhaustion.

Death notice from TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/12/al-jarreau-dead-at-76/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jarreau)

Jarreau's "We're in This Love Together," his biggest hit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otVH5cv9z1A
I liked the theme from "Moonlighting " better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFiu0L7zJX8
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 14, 2017, 11:44:00 pm
This happened a while back, but I thought this man deserved recognition here.
Retired Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, Ia Drang battle commander, dies at 94



By BEN WRIGHT | Columbus Ledger-Enquirer | Published: February 11, 2017

COLUMBUS, Ga. (Tribune News Service) — Retired Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, the commander at the Battle of Ia Drang in 1965 that led him to co-author the book, “We Were Soldiers Once, and Young,” died Friday at his home in Auburn, Ala. He was 94.

More at the link...
http://www.stripes.com/news/us/retired-lt-gen-hal-moore-ia-drang-battle-commander-dies-at-94-1.453672 (http://www.stripes.com/news/us/retired-lt-gen-hal-moore-ia-drang-battle-commander-dies-at-94-1.453672)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on February 15, 2017, 01:05:34 am
This happened a while back, but I thought this man deserved recognition here.
Retired Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, Ia Drang battle commander, dies at 94



By BEN WRIGHT | Columbus Ledger-Enquirer | Published: February 11, 2017

COLUMBUS, Ga. (Tribune News Service) — Retired Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, the commander at the Battle of Ia Drang in 1965 that led him to co-author the book, “We Were Soldiers Once, and Young,” died Friday at his home in Auburn, Ala. He was 94.

More at the link...
http://www.stripes.com/news/us/retired-lt-gen-hal-moore-ia-drang-battle-commander-dies-at-94-1.453672 (http://www.stripes.com/news/us/retired-lt-gen-hal-moore-ia-drang-battle-commander-dies-at-94-1.453672)

RIP General Moore!  You have more than done your part!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: rangerrebew on February 15, 2017, 10:49:00 am
"We Were Soldiers" Legend Lieutenant General Hal Moore Dies
By Chevel Johnson
February 13, 2017

Retired Lt. Gen. Harold G. "Hal" Moore, the American hero known for saving most of his men in the first major battle between the U.S. and North Vietnamese armies, has died. He was 94.

Joseph Galloway, who with Moore co-authored the book "We Were Soldiers Once ... and Young," confirmed Saturday to The Associated Press that Moore died late Friday in his sleep at his home in Auburn, Alabama.

Galloway said Moore, his friend of 51 years, died two days shy of his 95th birthday.

http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2017/02/13/we_were_soldiers_legend_lieutenant_general_hal_moore_dies_110795.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on February 15, 2017, 02:17:30 pm
This happened a while back, but I thought this man deserved recognition here.
Retired Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, Ia Drang battle commander, dies at 94



By BEN WRIGHT | Columbus Ledger-Enquirer | Published: February 11, 2017

COLUMBUS, Ga. (Tribune News Service) — Retired Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, the commander at the Battle of Ia Drang in 1965 that led him to co-author the book, “We Were Soldiers Once, and Young,” died Friday at his home in Auburn, Ala. He was 94.

More at the link...
http://www.stripes.com/news/us/retired-lt-gen-hal-moore-ia-drang-battle-commander-dies-at-94-1.453672 (http://www.stripes.com/news/us/retired-lt-gen-hal-moore-ia-drang-battle-commander-dies-at-94-1.453672)

Wow.   Hadn't heard that.

Thanks for posting, Joe.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on February 15, 2017, 02:23:09 pm
RIP General Moore!  You have more than done your part!

Some other links to Gen Moore over in the Mil Forum

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,243513.0.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on February 16, 2017, 07:19:36 pm
David Burwell, who saw bike paths where trains once ran, dies at 69.

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"My dream ... is that one day you could go across this entire country — old or young, handicapped or able — on flat, wide, off-road paths. I want rail-trails to be America’s main street.”

David Burwell, the co-founder and first president of the Rails-to-Trails Conservancy, a Washington-based organization that has led nationwide efforts to convert thousands of miles of unused railroad corridors to trails and parklands, died Feb. 1 at his home in Bethesda, Md. He was 69.

He had complications from acute myeloid leukemia, said his wife, Irene Burwell.

Inspired in part by his mother, who helped create an 11-mile bike trail on Cape Cod, Mass., Mr. Burwell was instrumental in building a national movement to preserve green space and to provide options for alternative modes of transportation.

As thousands of miles of old railroad lines were abandoned each year, some communities across the country remade them as paths for bicycling and nature walks. The Rails-to-Trails Conservancy, which Mr. Burwell founded in 1986 with Peter Harnik, became the first group to coordinate national efforts to build such a network.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/david-burwell-who-saw-bike-paths-where-trains-once-ran-dies-at-69/2017/02/15/18dfef5e-f3a6-11e6-b9c9-e83fce42fb61_story.html?utm_term=.35218a520e00
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 16, 2017, 07:32:17 pm
David Burwell, who saw bike paths where trains once ran, dies at 69.

David Burwell, the co-founder and first president of the Rails-to-Trails Conservancy, a Washington-based organization that has led nationwide efforts to convert thousands of miles of unused railroad corridors to trails and parklands, died Feb. 1 at his home in Bethesda, Md. He was 69.

He had complications from acute myeloid leukemia, said his wife, Irene Burwell.

Inspired in part by his mother, who helped create an 11-mile bike trail on Cape Cod, Mass., Mr. Burwell was instrumental in building a national movement to preserve green space and to provide options for alternative modes of transportation.

As thousands of miles of old railroad lines were abandoned each year, some communities across the country remade them as paths for bicycling and nature walks. The Rails-to-Trails Conservancy, which Mr. Burwell founded in 1986 with Peter Harnik, became the first group to coordinate national efforts to build such a network.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/david-burwell-who-saw-bike-paths-where-trains-once-ran-dies-at-69/2017/02/15/18dfef5e-f3a6-11e6-b9c9-e83fce42fb61_story.html?utm_term=.35218a520e00

What a great idea!Clean air, level ground, no cars....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on February 16, 2017, 07:38:52 pm
We frequently make use of the "rails to trails" near us. Mr. M does his marathon training on it. When they finish the last 7-mile section, it is my understanding it will complete the longest trail in the U.S.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on February 16, 2017, 07:47:24 pm
David Burwell, who saw bike paths where trains once ran, dies at 69.

David Burwell, the co-founder and first president of the Rails-to-Trails Conservancy, a Washington-based organization that has led nationwide efforts to convert thousands of miles of unused railroad corridors to trails and parklands, died Feb. 1 at his home in Bethesda, Md. He was 69.

He had complications from acute myeloid leukemia, said his wife, Irene Burwell.

Inspired in part by his mother, who helped create an 11-mile bike trail on Cape Cod, Mass., Mr. Burwell was instrumental in building a national movement to preserve green space and to provide options for alternative modes of transportation.

As thousands of miles of old railroad lines were abandoned each year, some communities across the country remade them as paths for bicycling and nature walks. The Rails-to-Trails Conservancy, which Mr. Burwell founded in 1986 with Peter Harnik, became the first group to coordinate national efforts to build such a network.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/david-burwell-who-saw-bike-paths-where-trains-once-ran-dies-at-69/2017/02/15/18dfef5e-f3a6-11e6-b9c9-e83fce42fb61_story.html?utm_term=.35218a520e00

Rails to Trails was a FANTASTIC idea!  We have a very long bike trail near us, and it is a magnificent addition to our area.

RIP, Mr. Burwell.   69 is far too young to die!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on February 16, 2017, 08:15:30 pm
We frequently make use of the "rails to trails" near us. Mr. M does his marathon training on it. When they finish the last 7-mile section, it is my understand that it will complete the longest trail in the U.S.

Every few years we ride the KATY Trail in MO from Clinton to St Charles (Machens) or the up hill route St Charles to Clinton. At about 250 miles I think it is the longest rails to trails conversion (at Present).  Hope is that the last 69 miles to Kansas City will be completed before I die.  The great thing about Railroads are the grade was never more than 3%. 
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Katy_Trail_State_Park_Missouri.svg/850px-Katy_Trail_State_Park_Missouri.svg.png)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on February 16, 2017, 08:56:04 pm
@mountaineer


An uncle and I used to walk the Montour Trail in westers PA.  Back then there wasn't much to it.   Last I heard, one end  was being expanded to Washington, DC -- linking with one or more other trails.  The western end, I believe, extends into West Virginia. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on February 17, 2017, 12:59:40 pm
An uncle and I used to walk the Montour Trail in westers PA.  Back then there wasn't much to it.   Last I heard, one end  was being expanded to Washington, DC -- linking with one or more other trails.  The western end, I believe, extends into West Virginia.
Yes, once they finish the 7 miles between Wellsburg and Weirton, WV, the trail will go from well south of Wheeling to Weirton, to Pittsburgh, thence to Washington, DC. Montour trail is part of that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on February 17, 2017, 01:14:14 pm
One of those rail trails runs right next to my house. I've walked and ridden my bike down it countless times. Before I had my car, that path was the main way I got back and forth between towns.

During the winter, they convert it to a snowmobile trail.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on February 17, 2017, 06:40:43 pm
George 'The Animal' Steele, a WWE legend and Hall of Famer, dies at 79: From Madison Heights, Michigan, to Madison Square Garden, "The Animal" excited wrestling fans all over

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Hall of Fame wrestler George “The Animal” Steele has died, according WWE.

Steele, real name Jim Myers, had been battling health problems for years, including kidney failure. He had been moved into hospice care shortly before his death.

Portraying a green-tongued, bald-headed wildman, Steele was known for “eating” turnbuckles -- ripping them open with his teeth and throwing the shredded padding at opponents. He enjoyed his greatest fame near the end of his three-decade career as part of the 1980s WWE (then WWF) roster that included stars like Andre the Giant, “Rowdy” Roddy Piper, Hulk Hogan and “Macho Man” Randy Savage.
More (http://www.cbssports.com/general/news/george-the-animal-steele-a-wwe-legend-and-hall-of-famer-dies-at-79/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Steele)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0824552/)

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on February 18, 2017, 07:03:34 pm
'Russian Bear' Ivan Koloff dies (famous professional wrestler)

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The date January 18, 1971 and Ivan Koloff will forever be connected. That was the day that "The Russian Bear" did the unthinkable, defeating Bruno Sammartino for the WWWF World title. Sure, he only held the belt for another three weeks before dropping it to Pedro Morales, but it made Koloff, who died today at age 74, into a big name star...

What a strange world this is. Koloff's victory over Sammartino in the middle of the ring in Madison Square Garden, scoring the greatest wrestling upset of the era and ending Sammartino's nearly eight-year reign as WWWF world champion was game-changing. "Dead silence came down," said manager Captain Lou Albano, who was in Koloff's corner that night. "They couldn't believe it." ...
More (http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Wrestling/2017/02/18/22705083.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Koloff)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on February 18, 2017, 07:18:09 pm
Wow... bad week for professional wrestlers.   **nononono*
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on February 18, 2017, 07:31:36 pm
Norma McCorvey, Jane Roe of Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion, dies at 69

Norma McCorvey, who was 22, unwed, mired in addiction and poverty, and desperate for a way out of an unwanted pregnancy when she became Jane Roe, the pseudonymous plaintiff of the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade that established a constitutional right to an abortion, died Feb. 18 at an assisted-living facility in Katy, Tex. She was 69.

Her death was confirmed by Joshua Prager, a journalist working on a book about Roe v. Wade. The cause was a heart ailment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/norma-mccorvey-jane-roe-of-roe-v-wade-decision-legalizing-abortion-dies-at-69/2017/02/18/24b83108-396e-11e6-8f7c-d4c723a2becb_story.html?utm_term=.d59b68927ef6
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on February 18, 2017, 08:18:00 pm
Norma McCorvey, Jane Roe of Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion, dies at 69

Norma McCorvey, who was 22, unwed, mired in addiction and poverty, and desperate for a way out of an unwanted pregnancy when she became Jane Roe, the pseudonymous plaintiff of the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade that established a constitutional right to an abortion, died Feb. 18 at an assisted-living facility in Katy, Tex. She was 69.

Her death was confirmed by Joshua Prager, a journalist working on a book about Roe v. Wade. The cause was a heart ailment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/norma-mccorvey-jane-roe-of-roe-v-wade-decision-legalizing-abortion-dies-at-69/2017/02/18/24b83108-396e-11e6-8f7c-d4c723a2becb_story.html?utm_term=.d59b68927ef6

She never had an abortion, and hated that she was used to create such a heinous 'law.'

RIP, Norma.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: ABX on February 18, 2017, 08:20:16 pm
Quote
Norma McCorvey, whose legal challenge under the pseudonym “Jane Roe” led to the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark decision that legalized abortion but who later became an outspoken opponent of the procedure, died Saturday at age 69.....

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/18/norma-mccorvey-jane-roe-in-roe-v-wade-has-died-at-age-69/


Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: geronl on February 18, 2017, 09:50:50 pm
She was pivotal in unleashing the abortion holocaust that has slain tens of millions of humans.

I'm glad she repented and her soul can be saved, but she is not a hero
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: don-o on February 18, 2017, 10:12:08 pm
She was pivotal in unleashing the abortion holocaust that has slain tens of millions of humans.

I'm glad she repented and her soul can be saved, but she is not a hero

She was a tool. If not her, there would have been another.

Who said anything about "hero"? Rejoice that a blind sinner saw the light of truth. That is a good thing.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on February 18, 2017, 10:21:38 pm
Poor lady figured out too late that her "friends" really didn't care a thing about her and were only using her to advance an agenda!

Once she did figure that out she did everything in her power to undo her mistake and for that I have nothing but complete admiration!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on February 18, 2017, 10:27:45 pm
Every Pro-Life organization we belong to is mourning her passing:

Americans United for Life Mourns the Passing of Norma McCorvey “who became a Pro-Life Champion Addressing the Tragic Errors in Roe V. Wade, her namesake abortion case”


WASHINGTON, D.C. (02-18-17) –  Americans United for Life Acting President and Senior Counsel Clarke Forsythe expressed his condolences on Saturday on the passing of Norma McCorvey, who first became known as “Jane Roe” in the infamous abortion case Roe v. Wade.  “Norma McCorvey became a pro-life champion as she dedicated her life to overturning the Supreme Court’s disastrous decision in Roe v. Wade, the 1970 abortion case filed on her behalf to overturn the nation’s abortion laws,” said Forsythe. “She joined the efforts of millions of pro-life Americans, fighting to address the destruction caused by the fatally-flawed Supreme Court case begun in her name, and tragically she has died nearly 12 years to the day (Feb 22 2005) after the Supreme Court refused to hear her motion to reopen her original case.”

From legal perspectives across an ideological perspective, Roe has been harshly criticized. For example, James Simon, a liberal law professor, called Roe v. Wade “the most controversial decision of the modern Court era.” A 2005 book edited by another liberal law professor, Jack Balkin, went farther, calling Roe simply “America’s Most Controversial  Decision.”  After retiring, Justice Lewis Powell, who voted to approve Roe, referred to Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton as “the worst opinions I ever joined.”

“Since the days of Roe v. Wade, countless women have been harmed and infants lost to the devastation of abortion. The case was decided without a trial record, without medical evidence, without reliable medical data.  I and many others have been touched by Norma’s courage and humility as she spoke on behalf of life. She will be greatly missed, and Americans United for Life mourns her passing.”

Clarke Forsythe is Acting President & Senior Counsel at Americans United for Life (AUL) and author of Abuse of Discretion: The Inside Story of Roe v. Wade (Encounter Books 2013). For more information go to www.aul.org For interviews, e-mail: press@aul.org


http://www.aul.org/2017/02/americans-united-for-life-mourns-the-passing-of-norma-mccorvey-who-became-a-pro-life-champion-addressing-the-tragic-errors-in-roe-v-wade-her-namesake-abortion-case/ (http://www.aul.org/2017/02/americans-united-for-life-mourns-the-passing-of-norma-mccorvey-who-became-a-pro-life-champion-addressing-the-tragic-errors-in-roe-v-wade-her-namesake-abortion-case/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on February 18, 2017, 10:33:10 pm
Wonder how the Pro-Abortion crowd is taking it?   Maybe Jazzyhead can fill us in.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Rivergirl on February 18, 2017, 11:00:04 pm
An irony to contemplate.
Today the woman who enabled the USSC decide that a woman's right to privacy included the right to murder her unborn baby.
And today the Blink Sheik, father of the first WTC bombing in 93 died in prison.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on February 18, 2017, 11:09:49 pm
The man who really delivered the funk for James Brown is gone . . .

Clyde Stubblefield, James Brown's 'Funky Drummer,' Dead at 73 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/clyde-stubblefield-james-browns-funky-drummer-dead-at-73-w467805)

Kidney failure.

James Brown, "Cold Sweat" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bztE5IbQOo)

James Brown, "Funky Drummer" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoQ4AtsFWVM)

James Brown, "Get Up (I Feel Like Bein' A) Sex Machine" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFJXJ7cjzbc)

Rest in funk, Mr. S.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on February 18, 2017, 11:26:47 pm
She was pivotal in unleashing the abortion holocaust that has slain tens of millions of humans.

I'm glad she repented and her soul can be saved, but she is not a hero

She was not responsible.  She didn't even have an abortion - she placed the child for adoption.  She was used and when she understood how and for what she was used, she fought against the pro-abortion activists. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on February 18, 2017, 11:37:50 pm
She was not responsible.  She didn't even have an abortion - she placed the child for adoption.  She was used and when she understood how and for what she was used, she fought against the pro-abortion activists.

Exactly.  They used her maliciously, and as you say, she never had an abortion.

The pro-abortion left is as evil as any group of people in this country.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on February 18, 2017, 11:40:16 pm
An irony to contemplate.
Today the woman who enabled the USSC decide that a woman's right to privacy included the right to murder her unborn baby.
And today the Blink Sheik, father of the first WTC bombing in 93 died in prison.

She didn't 'enable' the USSC to do anything.

She was maliciously used to allow the evil left to enact that vile "law," never had an abortion, and went on to be a tremendous spokeswoman for the Right to Life.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod1 on February 18, 2017, 11:46:05 pm
Obituary threads merged.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 19, 2017, 05:25:00 am
She was a tool. If not her, there would have been another.

Who said anything about "hero"? Rejoice that a blind sinner saw the light of truth. That is a good thing.
Yes, all the way around.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on February 20, 2017, 05:28:51 pm
Richard Schickel, Influential Time Magazine Film Critic, Dies at 84

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Richard Schickel, the longtime film critic for Time magazine who also wrote 37 books, mostly on film, and directed a number of documentaries on film subjects, died on Saturday in Los Angeles of complications from a series of strokes, his family told the Los Angeles Times. He was 84.

“He was one of the fathers of American film criticism,” his daughter, writer Erika Schickel, told the Times. “He had a singular voice. When he wrote or spoke, he had an old-fashioned way of turning a phrase. He was blunt and succinct both on the page and in life.”

He wrote and/or directed more than 30 documentaries, mostly for television.
More (http://variety.com/2017/film/news/richard-schickel-dead-film-critic-time-1201992265/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Schickel)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on February 20, 2017, 11:31:36 pm
Fox News correspondent Brenda Buttner dies at 55

(http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/person/b/brenda-buttner/_jcr_content/image.img.png/150/150/1448384394688.png)

A social studies major at Harvard and a Rhodes scholar, Buttner first appeared on national TV for CNBC in 1990. She later moved to Fox News, where she served as a business correspondent and host of the weekend version of Bulls & Bears. She also edited the magazine Cycle World, a role that drew upon her hobby of motorcycling.

Buttner had been diagnosed with cancer last year.

Neil Cavuto's postmortem (http://video.foxnews.com/v/5330338617001/?#sp=show-clips)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenda_Buttner)

Official Fox News bio and archive (http://www.foxnews.com/person/b/brenda-buttner.html)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 20, 2017, 11:59:25 pm
Fox News correspondent Brenda Buttner dies at 55

(http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/person/b/brenda-buttner/_jcr_content/image.img.png/150/150/1448384394688.png)

A social studies major at Harvard and a Rhodes scholar, Buttner first appeared on national TV for CNBC in 1990. She later moved to Fox News, where she served as a business correspondent and host of the weekend version of Bulls & Bears. She also edited the magazine Cycle World, a role that drew upon her hobby of motorcycling.

Buttner had been diagnosed with cancer last year.

Neil Cavuto's postmortem (http://video.foxnews.com/v/5330338617001/?#sp=show-clips)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenda_Buttner)

Official Fox News bio and archive (http://www.foxnews.com/person/b/brenda-buttner.html)

I really liked her.  Was wondering where she was.  May God rest her soul.   8888crybaby
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: anubias on February 21, 2017, 04:02:01 am
I really liked her.  Was wondering where she was.  May God rest her soul.   8888crybaby

Just saw that she had passed away.  I too wondered where she had gone and missed her.  I had no idea she was sick with cancer.  Tears ran down my face as I watched Cavuto's tribute to her.  My whole family enjoyed watching her host Bulls and Bears. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 21, 2017, 04:03:12 am
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Horse Of The Year, Charismatic, Dead At 20

GEORGETOWN, Ky. - Dual classic winner and 1999 Horse of the Year Charismatic has died.

The 20-year-old stallion, who returned to the United States from the JBBA Shizunai Stallion Station in Japan on December 4, 2016, was pensioned at Old Friends, the Thoroughbred Retirement Center in Georgetown, KY.

The announcement of his sudden passing was made Sunday afternoon by Old Friends president Michael Blowen.

The stallion was discovered early Sunday morning. Attending veterinarian Dr. Bryan Waldridge was immediately called to the scene, but the cause of death is unknown. The results of a full necropsy are pending.

http://www.lex18.com/story/34542969/horse-of-the-year-charismatic-dead-at-20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpRqQfD_Zs8
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on February 21, 2017, 04:39:25 am
Guitarist Larry Coryell, Godfather Of Fusion, Dies At 73 (http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2017/02/20/516245069/guitarist-larry-coryell-godfather-of-fusion-dies-at-73)

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Larry Coryell, the jazz guitarist known as the "Godfather of Fusion," died Sunday night at a hotel in
New York City, according to his publicist. He was 73.

Coryell was still performing more than 50 years after his first recordings. He played at New York jazz club
Iridium on Friday and Saturday night, and had plans for a summer tour with his fusion group The Eleventh
House.

Coryell's recordings in the late 1960s, first with his band the Free Spirits, then with the Gary Burton Quartet
and finally as a bandleader, predicted the rise of jazz-rock fusion and contributed to the sonic evolution the
genre. It's no wonder that snippets of his work were sampled by renowned producers, including J Dilla and
DJ Shadow.

On the NPR program Billy Taylor's Jazz, Dr. Taylor described Coryell as such: "[Larry] plays all the styles, Latin,
jazz-rock, straight ahead jazz, European classical music. You name it, he's a master of it."

In 1970, after two records under his own name, Coryell recorded the groundbreaking fusion album Spaces.
The project featured fellow guitarist John McLaughlin, pianist Chick Corea on keyboards, bassist Miroslav
Vitouš on bass and drummer Billy Cobham.

The guitarist's '70s output totaled more than 20 albums as either a leader or co-leader. Coryell briefly worked
with McLaughlin in The Guitar Trio in 1979, but was replaced after a year by Al Di Meola due a drug addiction.

Despite a decline in critical attention, Coryell remained remarkably productive through the 1980s and beyond.
He performed on more than 100 albums, and was due to release an Eleventh House record in June of this year.

Coryell leaves behind his wife, Tracey, daughters Annie and Allegra, sons Murali and Julian, and six
grandchildren.

Larry Coryell, Jimmy Garrison, Elvin Jones, "Treats Style" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTjptaLqdEo)

Larry Coryell, Jimmy Garrison, Elvin Jones, "Stiff Neck" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNUHwllHDF4)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on February 21, 2017, 06:38:36 am
Loved Buttner on Bulls and Bears. RIP ma'am.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on February 22, 2017, 02:18:41 am
Stanislaw Skrowaczewski, Minnesota Orchestra's conductor laureate, dies at 93

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Minnesota Orchestra Conductor Laureate Stanislaw Skrowaczewski has died. He was 93.

Skrowaczewski came to Minnesota decades ago to lead what was then the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra, and he never left. He changed the face of classical music in Minnesota, and remained a towering presence in the classical music world until the end.
More (http://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/02/21/minn-orchestra-stanislaw-skrowaczewski-dies-at-93)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Skrowaczewski)

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 22, 2017, 04:49:37 am
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Junie Morrison, Parliament-Funkadelic and Ohio Players Member, Dead at 62
Multi-instrumentalist played pivotal roles in both groups, helping them reach notable chart peaks

Walter "Junie" Morrison, who played keyboards in Funkadelic and the Ohio Players, died on Saturday. His daughter, Akasha, reported the news via the artist's Facebook page. The details surrounding his death have not yet been made public. He was 62.

Parliament-Funkadelic legend on why he admires Flying Lotus and Thundercat, how hip-hop saved his career, and what's next

"It is with great sadness that the Ohio Players have lost on this earth another one of the original members of the band Walter 'Junie' Morrison," the group's James "Diamond" Williams wrote on Facebook. "When I got in the band in 1972 he was my roommate on the road and a brother-in-law, at one time being married to my wife's sister. The voice of granny in the funky worm, an incredibly talented individual ... RIP PLAYER 4 Life. We send our condolences to his family and his friends and fans."

Continued: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/junie-morrison-p-funk-and-ohio-players-member-dead-at-62-w467556



Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mystery-ak on February 23, 2017, 02:48:55 pm
BREAKING: Alan Colmes Dead at 66
by J.D. Durkin | 9:19 am, February 23rd, 2017

Longtime radio and cable news broadcaster Alan Colmes is dead at the age of 66.

Fox News moments ago reported on Colmes’ death with a segment narrated by Sean Hannity, who paired with Colmes for years on the venerable talk show Hannity & Colmes.

more
http://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-alan-colmes-dead-at-66/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 23, 2017, 02:54:16 pm
Alan Colmes, wow, that's something. One thing I will say for him, he certainly was able to represent the liberal side well debate-wise and had very good responses.  Rest In Peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on February 23, 2017, 02:59:37 pm
BREAKING: Alan Colmes Dead at 66
by J.D. Durkin | 9:19 am, February 23rd, 2017

Longtime radio and cable news broadcaster Alan Colmes is dead at the age of 66.

Fox News moments ago reported on Colmes’ death with a segment narrated by Sean Hannity, who paired with Colmes for years on the venerable talk show Hannity & Colmes.

more
http://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-alan-colmes-dead-at-66/

Colmes probably died from complications of Trump being elected.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: endicom on February 23, 2017, 03:01:10 pm
Townhall
Christine Rousselle
Feb. 23, 2017

Fox News broadcaster Alan Colmes passed away on Thursday at the age of 66. Colmes' death was announced on Fox.

More... https://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2017/02/23/alan-colmes-passes-away-at-age-66-n2289606


Apparently a good guy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on February 23, 2017, 03:04:05 pm


I spent many an hour as a teenager in Tower Records gazing at Ohio Players album artwork.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 23, 2017, 03:07:53 pm
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Colmes was married to Dr. Jocelyn Elise Crowley, a professor of public policy at Rutgers University, whose sister is Monica Crowley, the conservative radio commentator, pundit and television personality.[17]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Colmes
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bolobaby on February 23, 2017, 03:27:32 pm
Didn't agree with any of his politics, but he always approached the debate respectfully.

RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on February 23, 2017, 03:30:09 pm
This guy was a bore.

BTW, his last tweet a couple hours ago was a slam against someone....

Jason Chaffetz finds a new way to waste your taxpayer dollars http://colm.es/2moGf4T

https://twitter.com/AlanColmes?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on February 23, 2017, 03:33:05 pm
Must have just dropped dead, just tweeted a few hours ago.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on February 23, 2017, 03:39:41 pm
Stanislaw Skrowaczewski, Minnesota Orchestra's conductor laureate, dies at 93
More (http://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/02/21/minn-orchestra-stanislaw-skrowaczewski-dies-at-93)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Skrowaczewski)

Wow!  I sang with the Minnesota Orchestra under Skrowaczewski (Skro- va- chev- ski).  He had the weirdest conducting style I've ever seen.

I had no idea he was still alive.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on February 23, 2017, 03:40:39 pm
BREAKING: Alan Colmes Dead at 66
by J.D. Durkin | 9:19 am, February 23rd, 2017

Longtime radio and cable news broadcaster Alan Colmes is dead at the age of 66.

Fox News moments ago reported on Colmes’ death with a segment narrated by Sean Hannity, who paired with Colmes for years on the venerable talk show Hannity & Colmes.

more
http://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-alan-colmes-dead-at-66/

My husband just said that he always looked sick.

I wonder what he died from.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SirLinksALot on February 23, 2017, 03:47:15 pm
SOURCE: CBS NEWS

URL: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/alan-colmes-liberal-voice-at-fox-news-dead-at-66/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/alan-colmes-liberal-voice-at-fox-news-dead-at-66/)

NEW YORK -- Alan Colmes, the radio and television host and commentator best known as the amiable liberal foil to the hard-right Sean Hannity on the Fox News Channel, has died.

Fox spokeswoman Dana Klinghoffer confirmed his death Thursday. Fox also aired a statement from his family saying that he died Thursday morning after “a brief illness.” Colmes was 66 and is survived by his wife, Jocelyn Elise Crowley.

“He was a great guy, brilliant, hysterical, and moral,” the family statement said. “He was fiercely loyal, and the only thing he loved more than his work was his life with Jocelyn. He will be missed.”

Colmes was a New York City native who worked for years in radio and standup comedy before joining Fox in 1996. That same year he and the conservative Hannity began a 12-year run as co-hosts of the popular “Hannity & Colmes” program. Colmes also was an author, his books including “Thank the Liberals” and “Red, White & Liberal.”

Former Fox anchor Megyn Kelly, conservative commentator Ann Coulter and Fox personalities were among those who took to social media following news of Colmes’ death.


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Heartbroken my friend Alan Colmes has died. He lit up the FNC halls w/his kindness & humor. Incredibly positive force. Prayers 4 his family.

— Megyn Kelly (@megynkelly) February 23, 2017


Quote
WHAT? @AlanColmes passed away????? Noooooooooooo! Very sad. He was a good guy. Always surprised people that way. https://t.co/RL1AmwGpmx

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) February 23, 2017

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I can tell you tears r flowing @FoxBusiness @FoxNews right now. We are all devastated by the loss of kind soul @AlanColmes may god bless RIP

— Liz Claman (@LizClaman) February 23, 2017
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SirLinksALot on February 23, 2017, 03:49:21 pm
Conservative Pundit Monica Crowley is the sister-in-law of Alan Colmes.

She once said on her radio show that they never talk politics at the dinner table during Thanksgiving or Christmas.

Alan Colmes was one of the few liberal pundits that was at least watchable. He could make very informed points for his positions, but if you think about them further, those are easily refuted. The fact that he could give his opinions without sounding obnoxious is always a refreshing change from nasty lefties like say, Maxine Waters.

He was a really pleasant guy you could have a beer with. RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on February 23, 2017, 03:52:35 pm
It is, indeed, sad news.  He seemed to be a good man.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: anubias on February 23, 2017, 03:58:51 pm
My husband just said that he always looked sick.

I wonder what he died from.

He's looked ill for years, but it might have been due to dying his hair too dark.  Supposedly, it was a brief illness according to FOX.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frandia on February 23, 2017, 04:14:30 pm
Alan Colmes.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 23, 2017, 04:23:44 pm
I think the word for how Colmes appeared might have been "gaunt"; which many lean people tend to have. I doubt if he smoked. A short illness.

I mean, I don't like the liberal positions he would take, but at least they were somewhat civil on Fox versus having folks like Chris Matthews, etc. on.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod2 on February 23, 2017, 04:37:55 pm
Merged thread on Alan Colmes.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: CSM on February 23, 2017, 04:46:31 pm
Fox News Channel's Alan Colmes has passed away at age 66 after a brief illness.

Colmes leaves behind his wife, Jocelyn Crowley, who issued the following statement:

Alan Colmes passed away this morning after a brief illness. He was 66-years-old. He leaves his adoring and devoted wife, Jocelyn Elise Crowley. He was a great guy, brilliant, hysterical, and moral. He was fiercely loyal, and the only thing he loved more than his work was his life with Jocelyn. He will be missed. The family has asked for privacy during this very difficult time.
Bill Hemmer announced the sad news this morning on "America's Newsroom," which then aired a tribute package from Fox News Channel host Sean Hannity, his former co-host on "Hannity & Colmes."

In a statement this morning, Hannity called Alan Colmes "one of life's most decent, kind and wonderful people you'd ever want to meet."


http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/23/alan-colmes-dies-66
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on February 23, 2017, 05:07:21 pm
This is like the 23rd thread on this. Was he that important? Scalia didn't get this much play.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: CSM on February 23, 2017, 05:09:20 pm
This is like the 23rd thread on this. Was he that important? Scalia didn't get this much play.

Hmm, I didn't see any and that surprised me.  I even utilized a search function and did not achieve any success.

I do have to wonder if Alan is still an Atheist!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Victoria33 on February 23, 2017, 05:13:00 pm
@CSM

I heard Hannity speak this morning about Alan's passing.  He said it was expected and he and Alan talked about it.  So, this wasn't a sudden death, like a heart attack, as I first thought it must be. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on February 23, 2017, 05:13:22 pm
Didn't agree with any of his politics, but he always approached the debate respectfully.

RIP.


 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on February 23, 2017, 05:13:43 pm
I do have to wonder if Alan is still an Atheist!

Of course not. Didn't you hear? He's dead.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Victoria33 on February 23, 2017, 05:16:18 pm
Must have just dropped dead, just tweeted a few hours ago.
@Free Vulcan

No, I heard Hannity this morning about Alan's death and he said it was expected and he and Alan talked about it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mystery-ak on February 23, 2017, 05:19:16 pm
I merged several of the Alan Colmes threads
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Victoria33 on February 23, 2017, 05:25:17 pm
This guy was a bore.
@Frank Cannon

Frank, you are a callous person.  You seldom have a kind word for anyone.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on February 23, 2017, 05:30:03 pm
I guess I'm one of the few that never cared for Colmes. He always rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe he was better off screen, but he had perfected the smug smirky lib persona long before Obama and the Snowflakes came along.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on February 23, 2017, 05:53:29 pm
@Frank Cannon

Frank, you are a callous person.  You seldom have a kind word for anyone.

Is there a law I missed where I have to automatically like assholes after they die? I didn't like him yesterday and I still don't like him today even though his voting status just changed to mail in ballot.

There are 15 threads on this nobody who's stated goal was to destroy the country. How many threads are there on soldiers who died this month defending the country?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on February 23, 2017, 05:58:12 pm
I guess I'm one of the few that never cared for Colmes. He always rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe he was better off screen, but he had perfected the smug smirky lib persona long before Obama and the Snowflakes came along.

That inappropriate smile was pretty much the reason I liked his predecessor on CNN, Tom Braden, better.

May they both RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: CSM on February 23, 2017, 06:04:43 pm
Merged thread on Alan Colmes.

Ahhh, thank you for merging my thread into this one.  I appreciate the help.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: CSM on February 23, 2017, 06:06:10 pm
I guess I'm one of the few that never cared for Colmes. He always rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe he was better off screen, but he had perfected the smug smirky lib persona long before Obama and the Snowflakes came along.

I am with you.  I never liked him, but am biting my tongue...I'm sure that he is learning how very wrong he was right now!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on February 23, 2017, 06:12:14 pm
I guess I'm one of the few that never cared for Colmes. He always rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe he was better off screen, but he had perfected the smug smirky lib persona long before Obama and the Snowflakes came along.

Yep.   :nometalk:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 23, 2017, 06:17:27 pm
That inappropriate smile was pretty much the reason I liked his predecessor on CNN, Tom Braden, better.

May they both RIP.

Slightly off-topic but in mentioning Tom Braden, I didn't know this.

Quote
Tom Braden, a newspaper columnist whose 1975 book about his eight children, “Eight Is Enough,” inspired the ABC television series, died at his home in Denver on Friday. He was 92.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/arts/television/06braden.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Braden

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 23, 2017, 06:21:35 pm
Slightly off-topic but in mentioning Tom Braden, I didn't know this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Braden

I didn't like Braden either.  He was incredibly rude to Buchanan at times.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on February 23, 2017, 06:54:37 pm
Poor Alan Colmes. I remember listening to him back in the early 90s on WABC radio late night.
66 seems young.

Didn't always agree with him, but before he was syndicated he knew his NYC politics and told some funny jokes on air.

RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on February 24, 2017, 12:22:18 am
Poor Alan Colmes. I remember listening to him back in the early 90s on WABC radio late night.
66 seems young.

Didn't always agree with him, but before he was syndicated he knew his NYC politics and told some funny jokes on air.

RIP.

It is young to me.  I'm 64. 

There were times when Colmes would spout some liberal talking point and I would want to slap him.  But really,  he wasn't as bad as some.  I would have rather listened to Alan Colmes than the hand-wringing snowflakes screaming and shouting on TV these days.

Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on February 24, 2017, 12:59:11 pm
Bernie Custis, pro football's first black quarterback, dies at 88

Custis emerged as a star at Syracuse University, where he was roommates with future Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis. His three-year tenure at Syracuse earned the attention of the Cleveland Browns, who picked him in the eleventh round of the 1951 NFL Draft, technically making him the first black quarterback in the NFL; the Browns, however, already had a starting quarterback (eventual Hall of Famer Otto Graham) and offered Custis a position on defense instead, which he refused.

With the Browns retaining his U.S. rights, Custis emigrated to Canada and found a roster spot on the Hamilton Tiger-Cats' roster. Custis played the entire 1951 season as the TiCats' starting quarterback, to modest success; even so, the TiCats forced him to switch to running back in 1952, the position he played for the rest of his playing career.

Custis went on to have a long career coaching college and high-school-level football in Ontario, in addition to a teaching career.

Obituary from the Sporting News (http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/bernie-custis-first-black-pro-football-quarterback-dies-at-age-88/68g8j3edkitn1kwdvn1wdd9kn)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Custis)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on February 25, 2017, 02:39:48 pm
Infant who survived in 1920s sideshow incubator does at 96.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/02/24/infant-who-survived-in-1920s-sideshow-incubator-dies-at-96.html

Fascinating obit. Interesting how all those babies were on display in incubators at Coney Island.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on February 25, 2017, 02:49:25 pm
Infant who survived in 1920s sideshow incubator does at 96.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/02/24/infant-who-survived-in-1920s-sideshow-incubator-dies-at-96.html

Fascinating obit. Interesting how all those babies were on display in incubators at Coney Island.

Yes, it is, @Freya.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on February 26, 2017, 05:58:42 am
Infant who survived in 1920s sideshow incubator does at 96.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/02/24/infant-who-survived-in-1920s-sideshow-incubator-dies-at-96.html

Fascinating obit. Interesting how all those babies were on display in incubators at Coney Island.
Dr. Stephan Tarnier used the exhibits to promote the use of incubators in the US and thereby saved many lives.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/coney-island-sideshow-advanced-medicine-premature-babies/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on February 26, 2017, 03:35:20 pm
Bill Paxton RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on February 26, 2017, 03:37:33 pm
Bill Paxton RIP

Wow thats a surprise.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mystery-ak on February 26, 2017, 03:57:24 pm
http://people.com/movies/bill-paxton-dead-complications-surgery-age-61/?xid=socialflow_facebook_peoplemag
Emmy-Winning Actor Bill Paxton Dead at 61 Due to Complications from Surgery

By Stephanie Petit and Maria Mercedes Lara•@maria_mercedes

Posted on February 26, 2017 at 10:30am EST

Emmy-winning actor Bill Paxton died due to complications from surgery, PEOPLE confirms.

“It is with heavy hearts we share the news that Bill Paxton has passed away due to complications from surgery,” a family representative said in a statement. “A loving husband and father, Bill began his career in Hollywood working on films in the art department and went on to have an illustrious career spanning four decades as a beloved and prolific actor and filmmaker. Bill’s passion for the arts was felt by all who knew him, and his warmth and tireless energy were undeniable. We ask to please respect the family’s wish for privacy as they mourn the loss of their adored husband and father.”

more at link
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 26, 2017, 04:04:54 pm
Quote
Game Of Thrones star and 'Britain's tallest man' Neil Fingleton dies aged 36
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/26/game-thrones-star-britains-tallest-man-neil-fingleton-dies-aged/

Super tall people have to live with the realization that they will probably die young.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on February 26, 2017, 07:30:56 pm
'People's Court' Judge Wapner Dead at 97
  2/26/2017 11:06 AM PST
TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/26/joseph-wapner-dead-peoples-court/)

Joseph Wapner, the retired judge who literally changed television as the judge on "The People's Court," has died ... TMZ has learned.

Wapner became an instant sensation when the show debuted in September, 1981.  "The People's Court" was the first TV reality show, and it opened the door to many more, including a slew of TV court shows.

He was opinionated, passionate and irascible as he heard thousands of cases during his 12-year run.

The show became a touchpoint for pop culture.  It was parodied on "Saturday Night Live" and many other shows.  Dustin Hoffman's "3 minutes to Wapner" in "Rain Man" became an iconic expression.

Before becoming a TV judge, Wapner served as an L.A. County Superior Court judge for 20 years.

He was hospitalized last week with breathing problems and his condition worsened, to the point he was taken to his West L.A. home Friday under hospice care.  He died Sunday morning.

Judge Wapner was married to wife Mickey for 70 years.  He had 3 kids.

Joseph Wapner was 97.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on February 26, 2017, 07:58:49 pm
I couldn't picture him, so here he was:

(https://s17-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fimages.mentalfloss.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fstyles%2Finsert_main_wide_image%2Fpublic%2Funtitled5_0.png&sp=c8c8409551da92c5bda7a5564a6491d0)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on February 26, 2017, 09:58:50 pm
I couldn't picture him, so here he was:

(https://s17-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fimages.mentalfloss.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fstyles%2Finsert_main_wide_image%2Fpublic%2Funtitled5_0.png&sp=c8c8409551da92c5bda7a5564a6491d0)

Geez. What's Rusty the Bailiff going to do now?

(http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/10/37/55/2227053/5/920x920.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on February 26, 2017, 09:59:59 pm
Bill Paxton dead.

Game over man.

(Language)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsx2vdn7gpY
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 26, 2017, 10:30:28 pm
RIP Judge Wapner; I really enjoyed that show. From what I remember, Wapner was just pretty straight-forward, no extra bells and whistles, no great judicial wisdom but I guess it was a first of a kind program.

---------------

Judge Judy's neighbor jumped to his suicide in their highrise:

http://nypost.com/2017/02/25/judge-judy-neighbor-jumps-to-his-death/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on February 26, 2017, 10:44:36 pm
Judge Wapner's years on the People's Court were among the best.  I remember one case where a woman sued a guy who claimed to be a tree surgeon.  She hired him to trim some branches from a tree in her yard, and he literally hacked the tree into oblivion.  Of course, the guy was no tree surgeon.  Apparently, she picked him up in a bar, took him home, they did the deed and at some point, she hired him to do the job. Never bothered to check him out.  Turns out the guy had an extensive rap sheet for assorted fraud and forgery offenses. 

The normally unflappable Judge listened to this story and the expression on his face was priceless.  He was simply incredulous.  He tried to be as professional as possible, while the audience was cracking up.  In the end, he dismissed the case. 

Rest in peace, Judge Wapner. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on February 27, 2017, 04:11:20 pm
I liked watching the show with Judge Wapner and the woman they have now. Wasn't too fond of Judge Judy's husband. Mayor Koch was good, but I personally thought Wapner was better.

RIP, Judge Wapner.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on February 27, 2017, 04:17:43 pm
Doug Llewylyn and Bailiff Rusty Burrell, it's still easy to remember the co-stars.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on February 28, 2017, 08:15:37 pm
Ned Garver, 20-Game Winner for the 102-Loss Browns, Dies at 91

Quote
Ned Garver, the only pitcher in American League history to win at least 20 games in a season for a ball club that lost at least 100 times, achieving the feat for the 1951 St. Louis Browns, died on Sunday in Bryan, Ohio. He was 91.
More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/28/sports/baseball/ned-garver-dead-st-louis-browns-pitcher.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Garver)

Career statistics (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/garvene01.shtml)

@EasyAce
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: DCPatriot on February 28, 2017, 08:34:13 pm
Bill Paxton RIP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Bz-9z_YAY

Playing Russian Roulette as "Earl" in 2 Guns
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on February 28, 2017, 09:06:32 pm
Ned Garver, 20-Game Winner for the 102-Loss Browns, Dies at 91
Take a look at his 1951 teammates. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SLB/1951.shtml)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on February 28, 2017, 09:19:01 pm
Tom Shinness, musician.
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Friday, February 17, Tom Shinness peacefully lost his battle with cancer. We were hopeful in recent months that he was on the road to recovery. Recently, it became apparent that he was slipping away. Tom was full of smiles and jokes in his last days. He was surrounded by family, loved ones, beautiful music and was at peace.

Tom was born on December 1, 1960, in Marion Indiana to David Lester Shinness and Ruth Shinness-Brinduse. He was the youngest of four children; David Shinness, Roger Shinness, and Molly Eastabrook. He is survived by three daughters; Jasmine, Heather, and Ginger Shinness.

Tom spent his life pursuing his passion for music. Most people would say that there wasn't an instrument he couldn't play, but a few that he was most known for were the guitar, cello, and harp guitar. He spent the last twenty or so years living in Nashville Tennessee involved in the music scene there. Tom's passion for music was palpable and affected everyone who interacted with him. He was a welcome addition to any jam session. He created several of his solo albums. To say that he will be sorely missed is an understatement.

The memorial service will be held on Saturday, February 25 at 2:00 pm at Grace Center, 2420 Bethlehem Loop Road, Franklin, TN.
Cremation and Funeral Services of Nashville (http://nashvillecremationfuneral.com/tribute/details/248/Tom-Shinness/obituary.html#tribute-start)

Phil Keaggy posted on his own Facebook page:
Quote
I first want to say that Tom Shinness was a truly gifted musician. He loved music and as a multi instrumentalist and vocalist, music just poured out of him like living water!

We became friends in the mid 80s. He had told me that he had listened to my recordings with great enjoyment. We shared the stage even back then, playing together songs like The Wind and The Wheat, Find Me In These Fields and some of his songs as well.

We became friends and brothers and shared many of the same musical interests.

In 2007, he suggested we put my Master and The Musician album on tour with a band.I thought that was a big undertaking and I was unsure we could pull it off, but Tom’s faith and enthusiasm won me over and we together assembled a very good band with he and I and 5 more musicians—John Sferra, Rich Hordinski, Joel Jimenez and Bryan and Melissa Lautenbach. We did the whole album with all the parts played well by this gifted band of musicians! In fact, we also did a set of vocal songs too. I’m grateful there is a DVD of this concert.

In the years between 2004 and 2008 we recorded some songs in our respective home studios, which I desire to make available to our listeners and friends soon and have the proceeds go toward his loving daughters and the many medical expenses incurred during his illness. The CD will be called Brothers and Friends.
I visited Tom often over the past few months and we played together on Nov. 30, 2016—his last performance in public.
He was amazing—he gave of himself, his music with heart and joyous passion the whole evening!

I realize, so deeply, what a great loss his passing is to all of us who knew and loved this beautiful, musical man Of God!”

Please visit the included web site and purchase his CDs and downloads. You will be blessed! https://tomshinness.bandcamp.com

Thank you,
Phil Keaggy
Phil Keaggy with Tom Shinness on cello:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ-o55x6YUQ
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on March 01, 2017, 01:16:12 am
Take a look at his 1951 teammates. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SLB/1951.shtml)

And ponder this, too: At the end of that 1951 season, Yogi Berra, Allie Reynolds (he'd pitched two no-hitters
that season), and Ned Garver were in a three-way tie for first-place American League Most Valuable Player
Award votes. Yogi won the first of this three MVPs thanks to the voting further down, but it was the first time
such a three-way tie happened in the MVP voting. (Yogi was later quoted as saying he was sure Reynolds
would win the award because of the two no-nos . . . which he caught, of course.)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on March 05, 2017, 05:04:24 pm
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/singer-music-exec-tommy-page-46-dies-apparent-suicide-article-1.2989018

Singer and music exec Tommy Page, 46, dies in apparent suicide
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Sunday, March 5, 2017, 3:56 AM

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2989017.1488700363!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/page5n-1-web.jpg)

Tommy Page, a former pop star whose song “I’ll Be Your Everything” went to No. 1 in 1990 and who later became a record company executive, publisher of Billboard magazine and a vice president at Pandora, has died. He was 46.

...

Excerpt. More at link.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTki_oqDLqk
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on March 05, 2017, 05:05:23 pm
Sad that his life was such that he felt this was his best choice, but happy he succeeded in getting what he wanted.  RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Norm Lenhart on March 05, 2017, 05:38:11 pm
The music industry is in such a bad state, I'm surprised that they (execs) all havent jumped off the Capitol building yet.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: endicom on March 05, 2017, 06:00:23 pm
The music industry is in such a bad state...


Always has been.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on March 05, 2017, 06:02:50 pm

Always has been.

Back when I had a family member working for Polygram commute to London from NYC on the Concorde, it was doing alright.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 05, 2017, 06:03:10 pm
RIP but never heard of him.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on March 05, 2017, 06:10:57 pm
I basically stopped listening to top 40 pop music around that time.  Both the wife and I had never heard of the guy nor heard the song.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Norm Lenhart on March 05, 2017, 06:13:05 pm

Always has been.

I mean economically. They have been trying to keep their profit margins in a digital world and failing increasingly. Right now, they have a handful of name artists they pump cash into, have the back end in place, but arent able to make the sales numbers they used to, have any significant development path for upcoming artists, pay for multiple extravagant tours etc. Look at concert ticket prices. Astronomical.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Norm Lenhart on March 05, 2017, 06:16:37 pm
I basically stopped listening to top 40 pop music around that time.  Both the wife and I had never heard of the guy nor heard the song.

I just trawl through youtube now for cool new tunage. Plenty out there and none of it on the radio. I'm an 80s kid so there's plenty of Retro/synthwave and a lot of it better than was done when it was new. Katy Perry and Gaga can wear all the Barry/Hillary dresses they want. I won't help pay for them.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on March 05, 2017, 06:37:12 pm
How sad.Never heard of him. But how sad anyway.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on March 05, 2017, 07:10:50 pm
"Personal life and death

Page had three children with his partner, Charlie.[4][5] He died on March 3, 2017 of an apparent suicide.[6]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Page#Personal_life_and_death

Any hints here? (other sources say Page is survived by "his husband Charlie.)

How is the ____ thing working out, Tommy and Charlie?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on March 05, 2017, 07:34:36 pm
Never heard of him, or this song. Holy cow, that was terrible.

If he was killing himself for attention, the last result he wanted was for the world to collectively say "who?"
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on March 05, 2017, 08:29:57 pm
Dr. Thomas Starzl, Organ Transplantation Pioneer, Dies At Pittsburgh Home
March 5, 2017 11:17 AM

PITTSBURGH (KDKA (http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/03/05/thomas-starzl-obituary/)) — Dr. Thomas Starzl, who was a pioneer in organ transplantation, died at his Pittsburgh home Saturday.

He was 90 years old.

His family issued a statement that read, in part:
Quote
    “Thomas Starzl was many things to many people. He was a pioneer, a legend, a great human, and a great humanitarian. He was a force of nature that swept all those around him into his orbit, challenging those that surrounded him to strive to match his superhuman feats of focus, will and compassion. His work in neuroscience, metabolism, transplantation and immunology has brought life and hope to countless patients, and his teaching in these areas has spread that capacity for good to countless practitioners and researchers everywhere. With determination and irresistible resolve, Thomas Starzl advanced medicine through his intuition and uncanny insight into both the technical and human aspects of even the most challenging problems. Even more extraordinary was his ability to gift that capacity to those around him, allowing his students and colleagues to discover the right stuff within themselves. Nobody who spent time with Thomas Starzl could remain unaffected.”

Dr. Starzl performed the world’s first liver transplant in 1963 and the first successful liver transplant in 1967, and he made medical advancements that helped prevent organ rejection and performed baboon-to-human organ transplants.

He first joined the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine in 1981 and went on to work for the University of Pittsburgh and UPMC hospitals for many years.

In 1996, the University of Pittsburgh Transplantation Institute was renamed the Thomas E. Starzl Transplantation Institute in his honor, and Dr. Starzl held the title of director emeritus of the Institute and Distinguished Service Professor of Surgery at the University of Pittsburgh.
(https://cbspittsburgh.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/thomas-starzl.jpg?w=640&h=360&crop=1)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on March 05, 2017, 08:41:28 pm
Nice obituary , very interesting.

Great picture of the man with his dogs too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Silver Pines on March 05, 2017, 10:25:39 pm
I just trawl through youtube now for cool new tunage. Plenty out there and none of it on the radio. I'm an 80s kid so there's plenty of Retro/synthwave and a lot of it better than was done when it was new. Katy Perry and Gaga can wear all the Barry/Hillary dresses they want. I won't help pay for them.

@Norm Lenhart

Katy Perry can't sing.  Her voice is so bad, it's embarrassing. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Norm Lenhart on March 05, 2017, 10:35:42 pm
@Norm Lenhart

Katy Perry can't sing.  Her voice is so bad, it's embarrassing.
Indeed, but she can fill out a tight dress and heels spectacularly well and thats what matters on a stage today. Not talent.

I've heard worse, but you're right... she's not exactly a voice for the ages, even with absurd levels of autotune.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on March 05, 2017, 11:39:13 pm
Indeed, but she can fill out a tight dress and heels spectacularly well and thats what matters on a stage today. Not talent.

I've heard worse, but you're right... she's not exactly a voice for the ages, even with absurd levels of autotune.

She carries an auto tune very well. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on March 06, 2017, 12:04:33 am
She carries an auto tune very well.
See that just shows I know nothing about music, I thought it was the other way around. :whistle:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Silver Pines on March 06, 2017, 12:39:08 am
Indeed, but she can fill out a tight dress and heels spectacularly well and thats what matters on a stage today. Not talent.

I've heard worse, but you're right... she's not exactly a voice for the ages, even with absurd levels of autotune.

@Norm Lenhart

Even autotune can't cover up some of her straining.  Not on all songs, but on some of them...wow.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on March 06, 2017, 12:46:53 am
@Norm Lenhart

Katy Perry can't sing.  Her voice is so bad, it's embarrassing.

I don't know what she sounds like, but if she sounds anything like Beyonce it IS embarrassing.

However, that Adelle has a gorgeous voice.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on March 06, 2017, 01:00:30 am
Any hints here? (other sources say Page is survived by "his husband Charlie.)

How is the ____ thing working out, Tommy and Charlie?
Yeah, I had the same thought. I'm sure there's no connection, though.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Silver Pines on March 06, 2017, 01:20:50 am
I don't know what she sounds like, but if she sounds anything like Beyonce it IS embarrassing.

However, that Adelle has a gorgeous voice.

@Sanguine

I'd say she's worse than Beyonce.  Her voice is just weak...she strains, but she can't make it.

Adelle is great.  Gaga has a good voice, too...I have to give her that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on March 06, 2017, 04:41:00 am
Dr. Thomas Starzl, Organ Transplantation Pioneer, Dies At Pittsburgh Home
March 5, 2017 11:17 AM

PITTSBURGH (KDKA (http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/03/05/thomas-starzl-obituary/)) — Dr. Thomas Starzl, who was a pioneer in organ transplantation, died at his Pittsburgh home Saturday.

He was 90 years old.

His family issued a statement that read, in part:
Dr. Starzl performed the world’s first liver transplant in 1963 and the first successful liver transplant in 1967, and he made medical advancements that helped prevent organ rejection and performed baboon-to-human organ transplants.

He first joined the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine in 1981 and went on to work for the University of Pittsburgh and UPMC hospitals for many years.

In 1996, the University of Pittsburgh Transplantation Institute was renamed the Thomas E. Starzl Transplantation Institute in his honor, and Dr. Starzl held the title of director emeritus of the Institute and Distinguished Service Professor of Surgery at the University of Pittsburgh.
(https://cbspittsburgh.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/thomas-starzl.jpg?w=640&h=360&crop=1)

TTT.  A worthy Obit.  Rather than that of some nothing singer who killed himself.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on March 06, 2017, 12:14:23 pm
Dr. Starzl really put Pittsburgh medicine - and UPMC - on the map.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on March 06, 2017, 08:09:26 pm
Robert Osborne, TCM Host and Film Historian, Dies at 84

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Film historian Robert Osborne, the effervescent primetime host of Turner Classic Movies since the cabler’s inception in 1994, has died. He was 84.

TCM’s general manager Jennifer Dorian released a statement saying, “All of us at Turner Classic Movies are deeply saddened by the death of Robert Osborne. Robert was a beloved member of the Turner family for more than 23 years. He joined us as an expert on classic film and grew to be our cherished colleague and esteemed ambassador for TCM. Robert was embraced by devoted fans who saw him as a trusted expert and friend. His calming presence, gentlemanly style, encyclopedic knowledge of film history, fervent support for film preservation and highly personal interviewing style all combined to make him a truly world-class host. Robert’s contributions were fundamental in shaping TCM into what it is today and we owe him a debt of gratitude that can never be repaid. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and friends at this time.”

Osborne was an irrepressible advocate for the films of Hollywood’s golden era who wrote the Motion Picture Academy-sanctioned “50 Years of the Oscar: The Official History of the Academy Awards” in 1978 and a number of updates ending in 2008 with “80 Years of the Oscar.”
More (http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/robert-osborne-dead-dies-tcm-host-1202002748/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Osborne)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on March 06, 2017, 09:15:01 pm
I've watched a lot of TCM, and Robert Osborne knew his stuff.  Didn't know he was that old.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on March 06, 2017, 09:19:39 pm
I've watched a lot of TCM, and Robert Osborne knew his stuff.  Didn't know he was that old.

Watching a film with him hosting was like watching it with a friend. He'll be missed.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on March 06, 2017, 09:20:27 pm
Watching a film with him hosting was like watching it with a friend. He'll be missed.

Yep.

Wonder if they'll do a tribute to him.  I'll bet they do.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on March 06, 2017, 10:09:57 pm
Yep.

Wonder if they'll do a tribute to him.  I'll bet they do.

Yep.  I hope so too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 07, 2017, 12:23:51 am
Watching a film with him hosting was like watching it with a friend. He'll be missed.
I enjoyed his interviewing style, and tremendous knowledge of films, especially those we watched growing up. I'll miss his commentary as well.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 07, 2017, 12:36:31 am
Robert Osborne, TCM Host and Film Historian, Dies at 84
More (http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/robert-osborne-dead-dies-tcm-host-1202002748/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Osborne)

That suuuuuuuuuucks. Osborne was awesome at presenting the movies. He was a straight up Communist, but it never clouded his presentation. Ben Mankiewicz on the other hand is a straight up Communist who cannot stop from injecting his bias into everything. He also doesn't know shit.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on March 07, 2017, 01:19:17 am
Backup singer Valerie Carter dies at 64

Although she did record some solo work in the late 1970s and penned a few critically (if not commercially) popular songs, Carter was best established as a session vocalist; her longest association was with James Taylor, with whom she recorded several albums. Among other acts she sang for included Linda Ronstadt (it was Linda's sister Gretchen who gave Carter her break in the music business), Jackson Browne, Earth, Wind & Fire, Christopher Cross, Willie Nelson and Ringo Starr.

Beset by drug issues in the late 2000s, and by heart problems for much of her life, Carter died of a heart attack at her home in Florida.

Obituary from the Tampa Bay Times (http://www.tampabay.com/news/valerie-carter-recording-artist-and-backup-singer-of-st-petersburg-dead-at/2315426)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Carter)

I think Carter might be one of the backing vocalists on this piece, but I could be wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQnHAb_6sOs
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on March 07, 2017, 01:57:06 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e9_qtFqjrU
I remember this song from when I was a kid. This recording seems to be from many years later.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 07, 2017, 02:04:30 am
This is a morbid thread.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on March 07, 2017, 02:15:44 am
(https://mustbethistalltoride.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/happy-death-final.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on March 08, 2017, 02:11:11 am
'Outlaw' Ron Bass dead at 68

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"Outlaw" Ron Bass, who wrestled from 1971 to 1989, and had a prominent run in the WWF, has died in Florida. He had been hospitalized last week with an apparent burst appendix, and died on Tuesday.
More (http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Wrestling/2017/03/07/22708999.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Bass_(wrestler))
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 08, 2017, 02:32:09 am
The pro wrestlers never live long, unfortunately. RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on March 08, 2017, 04:59:53 pm
Lynne Stewart, Lawyer Imprisoned in Terrorism Case, Dies at 77

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/nyregion/lynne-stewart-dead-radical-leftist-lawyer.html?_r=0
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 08, 2017, 05:59:34 pm
Lynne Stewart, Lawyer Imprisoned in Terrorism Case, Dies at 77

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/nyregion/lynne-stewart-dead-radical-leftist-lawyer.html?_r=0

Not going to speak ill of the dead, so I have nothing to add here.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 08, 2017, 06:55:57 pm
Not going to speak ill of the dead, so I have nothing to add here.


She represented the blind sheikh right? Who just died himself?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 08, 2017, 07:02:34 pm

She represented the blind sheikh right? Who just died himself?

Yes.  She did time for passing information to and from him, and other terrorists.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on March 09, 2017, 01:08:08 am
Lou Duva, Boxing Promoter, Manager and Trainer, Dies at 94

Quote
Lou Duva, one of boxing’s most formidable figures as a promoter, manager and trainer in a ring career spanning seven decades, died on Wednesday in Paterson, N.J. He was 94.

His death, at St. Joseph’s Hospital, was confirmed by his son Dino, a spokesman, John Cirillo, said.

Duva had ties to more than a dozen world champions, among them the heavyweight Evander Holyfield, the middleweight Joey Giardello, the welterweights Meldrick Taylor and Mark Breland and the lightweight and welterweight Pernell Whitaker.

More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/08/sports/lou-duva-dead-boxing-promoter-manager.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Duva)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on March 10, 2017, 02:40:43 pm
Ex-Cub Bill Hands, 20-game winner in 1969, dies at 76

Quote
Former pitcher Bill Hands, a 20-game winner for the 1969 Cubs, died Thursday in an Orlando, Fla., hospital after a brief illness. He was 76.

Hands won 111 games over 11 big-league seasons, including a 92-86 record with a 3.18 ERA in seven seasons with the Cubs.

Signed by the Giants as an amateur free agent in 1959, Hands, whose nickname was "Froggy," was part of the one of the best trades in Cubs history, coming over after the 1965 season with catcher Randy Hundley for outfielder Don Landrum and reliever Lindy McDaniel.
More (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-bill-hands-cubs-obit-spt-0310-20170309-story.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hands)

Career stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/handsbi01.shtml)

@EasyAce

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on March 10, 2017, 04:23:10 pm
Ex-Cub Bill Hands, 20-game winner in 1969, dies at 76
More (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-bill-hands-cubs-obit-spt-0310-20170309-story.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hands)

Career stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/handsbi01.shtml)

@EasyAce

He was the subject of one of George F. Will's best lines: "What was wrong with Cub pitcher Bill Hands recording fourteen straight
strikeouts? He did it as a hitter."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on March 10, 2017, 08:23:25 pm
Bridges of Madison County author Robert James Waller dies, 77

Quote
Robert James Waller, the author of best-selling book The Bridges of Madison County, has died in Texas at the age of 77, his agency said.

Waller published seven books, but Bridges was his most famous, selling 12 million copies in 35 languages.

The romantic novel was adapted into a 1995 film starring Clint Eastwood and Meryl Streep, who was nominated for a Best Actress Oscar in the role.
More (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39226686)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_James_Waller)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on March 12, 2017, 01:03:49 pm
Joni Sledge, member of Sister Sledge, dies at 60

http://globalnews.ca/news/3304137/joni-sledge-member-of-sister-sledge-dies-at-60/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 12, 2017, 01:20:11 pm
Indeed, but she can fill out a tight dress and heels spectacularly well and thats what matters on a stage today. Not talent.



@Norm Lenhart

And for those who can't,there are always unemployed "background dancers" to excite and distract the mostly teen audiences/fans.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 12, 2017, 01:31:14 pm
I don't know what she sounds like, but if she sounds anything like Beyonce it IS embarrassing.

However, that Adelle has a gorgeous voice.

@Sanguine

"Gorgeous voice" isn't strong enough,plus she writes her own songs.

You might also take notice that when she performs,there is nobody on the stage but her and the musicians playing the music,and she is standing still behind a microphone,just belting it out effortlessly.  Not a backup dancer anywhere in sight,because not only doesn't she need them to keep the audience entertained,they would actually take away from the performance.

Look at/buy her performance that was filmed and recorded at the Royal Albert Hall in London.  Sold out performance with almost 6,000 people packing the joint from the stage to the rafters,and you could hear a mouse fart while she was singing,but the place would blow up with applause and cheers when she stopped. You can see some people in the crowd singing along to themselves and crying while she is singing. The only downside is when she is talking her accent is so thick you can't understand a damn thing she's saying unless you are English.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 12, 2017, 01:41:58 pm
@Sanguine


Adelle is great.  Gaga has a good voice, too...I have to give her that.

@CatherineofAragon

There is no business tougher to get ahead in than the music business,and probably no place  harder to break through than NYC,because of all the competition. GaGa understood she needed a "hook" to break free from the crowd,so she went weird to attract attention to her songwriting and singing.

And it worked. Now that she is known and her talent recognized,she is starting to slowly back away from the "meat dress/attention whore" phrase,and go more mainstream. The fact that Tony Bennett agreed to do a duet with her proves she has the vocal talent to last a very long time if she can manage to pull away from her early image.

She is also a very talented songwriter and arranger,and is VERY smart. She proved this when she didn't play to her old fan base by making her Super Bowl performance political.  She is in it for the long haul,and doesn't want to offend any potential fans.

BTW,she doesn't look very good with that bleached white hair,but if you have ever seen a photo of her with her natural black hair she is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 12, 2017, 01:44:28 pm
That suuuuuuuuuucks. Osborne was awesome at presenting the movies. He was a straight up Communist, but it never clouded his presentation. Ben Mankiewicz on the other hand is a straight up Communist who cannot stop from injecting his bias into everything. He also doesn't know shit.

@Frank Cannon

It is never a tragedy when a communist dies. It's a cause for celebration.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on March 12, 2017, 03:22:10 pm
@Sanguine

"Gorgeous voice" isn't strong enough,plus she writes her own songs.

You might also take notice that when she performs,there is nobody on the stage but her and the musicians playing the music,and she is standing still behind a microphone,just belting it out effortlessly.  Not a backup dancer anywhere in sight,because not only doesn't she need them to keep the audience entertained,they would actually take away from the performance.

Look at/buy her performance that was filmed and recorded at the Royal Albert Hall in London.  Sold out performance with almost 6,000 people packing the joint from the stage to the rafters,and you could hear a mouse fart while she was singing,but the place would blow up with applause and cheers when she stopped. You can see some people in the crowd singing along to themselves and crying while she is singing. The only downside is when she is talking her accent is so thick you can't understand a damn thing she's saying unless you are English.

I've never watched one of her performances.  I'll have to do that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on March 12, 2017, 05:51:12 pm
Joni Sledge, member of Sister Sledge, dies at 60

http://globalnews.ca/news/3304137/joni-sledge-member-of-sister-sledge-dies-at-60/

Sister Sledge, "He's the Greatest Dancer" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDwutKpVyas)

RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 12, 2017, 06:34:44 pm
Sister Sledge, "He's the Greatest Dancer" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDwutKpVyas)

RIP

Greatest Dancer, awesome song. We Are Family, just plain awful.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on March 12, 2017, 06:50:19 pm
Greatest Dancer, awesome song. We Are Family, just plain awful.

"We Are Family" wasn't bad. However, one season, the Pittsburgh Pirates adopted the song as part of their PR.  That season you couldn't go anywhere without hearing that song -- over and over and over.  After hearing it 10,000 times that season, just hearing the first few notes made me want to hurl.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 12, 2017, 07:22:04 pm
"We Are Family" wasn't bad. However, one season, the Pittsburgh Pirates adopted the song as part of their PR.  That season you couldn't go anywhere without hearing that song -- over and over and over.  After hearing it 10,000 times that season, just hearing the first few notes made me want to hurl.

That is exactly why I hate the song.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: montanajoe on March 14, 2017, 04:26:06 am
@Frank Cannon

It is never a tragedy when a communist dies. It's a cause for celebration.

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on March 14, 2017, 11:59:57 am
I saw in one of the obits for Robert Osborne that he left a long-time partner of the same sex, which really didn't surprise me. I also read that he spoke to Olivia DeHavilland every weekend. But no mention of his being a communist.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on March 14, 2017, 01:23:45 pm
I saw in one of the obits for Robert Osborne that he left a long-time partner of the same sex, which really didn't surprise me. I also read that he spoke to Olivia DeHavilland every weekend. But no mention of his being a communist.  :shrug:

Robert Osborne was a film expert and knew his stuff.   His politics never interfered with his commentary, so IMO, it's not really relevant to whether or not he will be missed.

He will.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on March 14, 2017, 01:33:15 pm
Robert Osborne was a film expert and knew his stuff.   His politics never interfered with his commentary, so IMO, it's not really relevant to whether or not he will be missed.

He will.
As a fan of old movies, I always enjoyed his commentary - very informative. To his great credit, he didn't force feed us his politics, sexual preference or anything else. He simply shared his great knowledge of and love for movies.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on March 14, 2017, 02:00:12 pm
As a fan of old movies, I always enjoyed his commentary - very informative. To his great credit, he didn't force feed us his politics, sexual preference or anything else. He simply shared his great knowledge of and love for movies.

Yep.

If more in Hollywood, or associated with Hollywood, would keep their feelings...... usually ignorant ones..... to themselves, this world would be a better place.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 14, 2017, 02:34:30 pm
Yep.

If more in Hollywood, or associated with Hollywood, would keep their feelings...... usually ignorant ones..... to themselves, this world would be a better place.

George Takei used to have what was considered one if the funniest pages on Bookface, but a few years ago he started a big Gay Rights/Marriage kick and ruined it.  I used to follow it, but had to cut it off when his posts started becoming truly filthy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on March 14, 2017, 11:41:50 pm
George Takei used to have what was considered one if the funniest pages on Bookface, but a few years ago he started a big Gay Rights/Marriage kick and ruined it.  I used to follow it, but had to cut it off when his posts started becoming truly filthy.

He was doing some funny Amazon product reviews, too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 15, 2017, 12:16:54 am
He was doing some funny Amazon product reviews, too.

He did!  His best work.  Might have been Brad's, but I don't care.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 15, 2017, 01:49:59 pm
I saw in one of the obits for Robert Osborne that he left a long-time partner of the same sex, which really didn't surprise me. I also read that he spoke to Olivia DeHavilland every weekend. But no mention of his being a communist.  :shrug:

@Frank Cannon   @mountaineer

 Frank Cannon wrote on March 06,2017, 03:09:26 PM

"That suuuuuuuuuucks. Osborne was awesome at presenting the movies. He was a straight up Communist, but it never clouded his presentation."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 15, 2017, 01:51:50 pm
Robert Osborne was a film expert and knew his stuff.   His politics never interfered with his commentary, so IMO, it's not really relevant to whether or not he will be missed.

He will.

@musiclady

Communists are dedicated to overthrowing our form of government and replacing it with a fascist Communist police state,and that is irrelevant?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 15, 2017, 01:54:05 pm
George Takei used to have what was considered one if the funniest pages on Bookface,.....

@Cyber Liberty

Bookface? Never heard of it. Did he ever write any books,or did he use a ghost writer to pad his limited acting career?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on March 18, 2017, 01:58:23 pm
Harmonica player James Cotton dies at 81

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/James_Cotton_One.jpg/320px-James_Cotton_One.jpg)

Cotton began his playing career working for blues legends Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters during the 1950s and early 1960s. He formed his own band in 1967, performing and recording with it through the 1990s. He earned a reputation as a frequent collaborator with both blues and rock and roll bands. He was rendered unable to sing after a throat cancer diagnosis in the 1990s but continued to perform with guest vocalists, many of them famous, until shortly before his death from pneumonia March 16.

Obituary from NPR (http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2017/03/16/520453907/james-cotton-legend-of-the-blues-harmonica-dies-at-81)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cotton)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 18, 2017, 03:38:23 pm
Harmonica player James Cotton dies at 81

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/James_Cotton_One.jpg/320px-James_Cotton_One.jpg)

Cotton began his playing career working for blues legends Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters during the 1950s and early 1960s. He formed his own band in 1967, performing and recording with it through the 1990s. He earned a reputation as a frequent collaborator with both blues and rock and roll bands. He was rendered unable to sing after a throat cancer diagnosis in the 1990s but continued to perform with guest vocalists, many of them famous, until shortly before his death from pneumonia March 16.

Obituary from NPR (http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2017/03/16/520453907/james-cotton-legend-of-the-blues-harmonica-dies-at-81)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cotton)

When you are 81,there is no such thing as a minor illness.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on March 18, 2017, 06:37:50 pm
Quote
Miloslav Vlk, a clandestine priest during communism, dies
By FRANCES D'EMILIO
Mar. 18, 2017 2:21 PM EDT
VATICAN CITY (AP) — Prague Cardinal Miloslav Vlk, who ministered clandestinely to Catholics for years while officially working as a window-washer during communist rule in Czechoslovakia, has died at age 84.

The Vatican said Pope Francis sent condolences Saturday praising the emeritus cardinal as a "generous pastor."

"I recall with admiration his tenacious fidelity to Christ, despite the deprivations and the persecutions against the church," the pope said in the message to Prague Cardinal Dominik Duka.

More: http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/ed1fd891bb854ea380f4b381bc3c818b/miloslav-vlk-clandestine-priest-during-communism-dies
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on March 18, 2017, 07:14:56 pm
He was doing some funny Amazon product reviews, too.

I loved reading his Amazon reviews, too. @bigheadfred

His reviews for cat products almost had me peeing in my pants.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on March 18, 2017, 10:17:41 pm
Chuck Berry has died at 90



Breaking



http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7728700/chuck-berry-dead
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mrclose on March 18, 2017, 10:24:46 pm
Quote
ST. CHARLES, MO (KTVI) – Police say that legendary rock n’ roll musician Chuck Berry has died at the age of 90-years-old.

First responders were called to a medical emergency on Buckner Road at about 12:40pm Saturday.

They found an unresponsive man inside the home.

They started administering lifesaving techniques. St. Charles Police say he could bot be revived. Berry was pronounced dead at 1:26pm.

http://fox2now.com/2017/03/18/legendary-rock-n-roll-musician-chuck-berry-dies-at-90/

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 18, 2017, 10:36:16 pm
Chuck Berry has died at 90



Breaking



http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7728700/chuck-berry-dead

There was probably no one else more responsible for making rock and roll the dominate music of the world than Chuck Berry. Personally,a total dipshit on his best days,and a pervert 100 percent of the time,but few could match him when it came to writing,playing,and singing catchy songs.

I even saw the Eagles open up with "Promised Land" for their encore live performance in the early 70's. First reserved seat concert I ever went to,and Linda Rhonstat opened for them and ended her set by singing "Desperado". The lady knew how to set a scene.

Then the Eagles came on and played every song in the 3 albums they had out at the time,and blew the roof off the joint when they came out for the encore and started playing "Promised Land" in Norfolk,Va. People were ripping seats up off the floor and throwing them against the wall to make room to dance.

If you didn't play Chuck Berry covers in the 60's and 70's,you weren't in a rock and roll band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCT-xMbxb8w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCT-xMbxb8w)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on March 18, 2017, 10:41:42 pm
He did!  His best work.  Might have been Brad's, but I don't care.

Someone sent me this one a while back.

https://www.amazon.com/AutoExec-Wheelmate-Steering-Attachable-Surface/dp/B00E1D1GY6/ref=cm_lmf_tit_7
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on March 18, 2017, 10:49:25 pm
He was from Missouri and that is where he passes on. Rest In Peace.  I had a greatest hits album by him. I think my favorite might be "Brown Eyed Handsome Man"; clearly Johnny B. Goode is a great song, a lot of airplay, I've heard it hundreds of times probably.  He may not get the recognition say Elvis gets but there may well have been no Rolling Stones or Beatles without Chuck Berry.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/09/43/44/0943445d85f6d856bf958153fb37ae20.jpg)

Promised Land too; his songs, he always had those intros, some would say they sounded to similar, it was his signature sound to me.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on March 18, 2017, 10:56:38 pm
There was probably no one else more responsible for making rock and roll the dominate music of the world than Chuck Berry. Personally,a total dipshit on his best days,and a pervert 100 percent of the time,but few could match him when it came to writing,playing,and singing catchy songs.

I even saw the Eagles open up with "Promised Land" for their encore live performance in the early 70's. First reserved seat concert I ever went to,and Linda Rhonstat opened for them and ended her set by singing "Desperado". The lady knew how to set a scene.

Then the Eagles came on and played every song in the 3 albums they had out at the time,and blew the roof off the joint when they came out for the encore and started playing "Promised Land" in Norfolk,Va. People were ripping seats up off the floor and throwing them against the wall to make room to dance.

If you didn't play Chuck Berry covers in the 60's and 70's,you weren't in a rock and roll band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCT-xMbxb8w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCT-xMbxb8w)

They played some Chuck Berry at my FIL's funeral. Big fan.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 18, 2017, 11:08:42 pm
He was doing some funny Amazon product reviews, too.
I had to stop following him when he started posting pictures of dicks.  All dicks, all the time. I'm odd that way.  Now, if it had been boobies....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: montanajoe on March 18, 2017, 11:32:07 pm
Damn

The "Legend' label gets thrown around a lot but he truly was a LEGEND. Hard to imagine R&R, R&B today without his influence...passing of a irreplaceable generation in my estimation..
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on March 19, 2017, 01:19:39 am
Forgive his sins, don't forget the music.

Chuck Berry, The Great Twenty Eight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz2egbIUrmo)

Chuck Berry, Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmm4tw9aVrk)

Chuck Berry with the Steve Miller Band, Live at the Fillmore Auditorium (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cLsR5hYzIo)

Chuck Berry, "Concerto in B Goode" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAnKqdlPWDo)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on March 19, 2017, 01:39:14 am
Re: Chuck Berry

The guy was performing right up until pretty much the day he died. He was working on his last album at the time; I don't know if he ever got to finish it.

But I did find a few good quotes from the guy, including this gem:

Quote
Global warming does not affect my life at all. I'm going to walk right along and drink plenty of cool water.

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/interviews/a2025/chuck-berry-quotes/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TheMom on March 19, 2017, 04:21:15 am
NYTexan, from FR, passed away this evening from a fatal heart attack.  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3536048/posts

He was wonderful friend that will be missed by all that knew him.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on March 19, 2017, 10:40:31 am
Thank you, @TheMom

He was a good man.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on March 19, 2017, 12:50:31 pm
NYTexan, from FR, passed away this evening from a fatal heart attack.  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3536048/posts

He was wonderful friend that will be missed by all that knew him.

R.I.P.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on March 19, 2017, 01:18:44 pm
A good man indeed!  May he Rest in Peace!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on March 19, 2017, 03:18:21 pm
Quote
Jimmy Breslin, iconic newspaperman, dead at 86

Jimmy Breslin, the surly, iconic Pulitzer Prize-winning New York newspaper columnist who covered the funeral of President John F. Kennedy from his grave digger’s perspective and corresponded with the “Son of Sam” killer, died on Sunday, multiple outlets reported. He was 86.

A cause of death was not immediately known. He's survived by his wife, Ronnie Eldridge.

Born in Queens, Breslin worked for nearly every newspaper with a New York zip code, including The New York Daily News, Newsday, The New York Herald Tribune and The New York Journal American....

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/19/jimmy-breslin-iconic-newspaperman-dead-at-86.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on March 19, 2017, 03:22:28 pm
you beat me to this obit @Sanguine

R.I.P. Jimmy Breslin. One of the last of the old time paper guys.

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Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on March 19, 2017, 03:53:21 pm
A cause of death was not immediately known.

At 86, does it matter?

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on March 19, 2017, 04:03:27 pm
At 86, does it matter?

Well, if he went out like my Grandad, yes.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on March 19, 2017, 04:33:10 pm
Well, if he went out like my Grandad, yes.

Went out to but a pack of smokes and never came home?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on March 19, 2017, 04:38:01 pm
Went out to but a pack of smokes and never came home?

Blew himself up.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 19, 2017, 04:47:49 pm
Blew himself up.

That's terrible!  I had an Uncle try that and he hurt other people, and lived.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on March 19, 2017, 04:53:36 pm
Oh, grandad didn't try, it was accidental. My uncle had a couple souvenirs from the war in a box in grandads shed - one was a grenade. Grandad, near as my Dad could ever figure, was doing some cleaning up, threw something heavy into the box and boom.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Zman516 on March 19, 2017, 05:06:43 pm
Would love to see Chuck' s remains driven to the graveyard in "a coffee-colored Cadillac" and buried with his favorite Gibson.  RIP, Mr. Berry.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 19, 2017, 06:09:37 pm
Forgive his sins, don't forget the music.



I know you haven't,but as a reminder for most people,buy or rent the Movie "Hail,Hail,Rock and Roll" if you want to see some special history as it happens.

BTW,don't waste your time clicking on the current videos on youtube claiming to be the full movie. I've tried 3,and they all seem to be 2 hour 30s second advertisements for other movies for rent.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on March 19, 2017, 06:19:26 pm
There was probably no one else more responsible for making rock and roll the dominate music of the world than Chuck Berry. Personally,a total dipshit on his best days,and a pervert 100 percent of the time,but few could match him when it came to writing,playing,and singing catchy songs.

I even saw the Eagles open up with "Promised Land" for their encore live performance in the early 70's. First reserved seat concert I ever went to,and Linda Rhonstat opened for them and ended her set by singing "Desperado". The lady knew how to set a scene.

Then the Eagles came on and played every song in the 3 albums they had out at the time,and blew the roof off the joint when they came out for the encore and started playing "Promised Land" in Norfolk,Va. People were ripping seats up off the floor and throwing them against the wall to make room to dance.

If you didn't play Chuck Berry covers in the 60's and 70's,you weren't in a rock and roll band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCT-xMbxb8w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCT-xMbxb8w)
@sneakypete
A good eulogy though in the end, I think most everyone can be called an expletive for how they act, I've read a few people say this. If he gave a crowd 10 songs after showing up an hour late... that is bad but I wouldn't emphasize it too much.  I heard that tale from someone.

I did happen to see that movie "Hail Hail Rock and Roll" but I don't really remember it.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on March 19, 2017, 06:31:55 pm
I know you haven't,but as a reminder for most people,buy or rent the Movie "Hail,Hail,Rock and Roll" if you want to see some special history as it happens.

Actually, I saw the film when it was released, my personal favourite moment having been  . . .

Eric Clapton with Chuck Berry, "Wee Wee Hours" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erdSbuOCR08)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on March 19, 2017, 06:46:53 pm
RIP Mr. B.

Chuck Berry with the Steve Miller Band, Live at the Fillmore Auditorium (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cLsR5hYzIo)

Chuck Berry, Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmm4tw9aVrk)

. . . and, the most off-the-wall thing he ever did, which is why I love it . . .

Chuck Berry, "Concerto in B Goode" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAnKqdlPWDo)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on March 19, 2017, 07:22:15 pm
I know you haven't,but as a reminder for most people,buy or rent the Movie "Hail,Hail,Rock and Roll" if you want to see some special history as it happens.

BTW,don't waste your time clicking on the current videos on youtube claiming to be the full movie. I've tried 3,and they all seem to be 2 hour 30s second advertisements for other movies for rent.

American Hot Wax was a bowdlerised take on the life of Alan Freed . . . but Chuck Berry's live performance in the concert
scene near the climax was a jewel . . . even exposing that he copped about half his stage moves from T-Bone Walker . . .

Chuck Berry, "Reelin' and Rockin'"/"Roll Over Beethoven" from American Hot Wax (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9TXT5Iw-Ew)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: andy58-in-nh on March 19, 2017, 07:41:21 pm
Anyone who grew up in the 60s and 70s and having finally picked up an electric guitar, tried at least one time to play this:

Johnny B. Goode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFo8-JqzSCM)

Only a small handful of others might claim to have had a greater influence on the direction of American popular music. RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod1 on March 19, 2017, 08:19:08 pm
Merged Chuck Berry thread into Obituaries thread.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on March 19, 2017, 11:43:23 pm
Remembering Lawrence Montaigne, 1931-2017

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StarTrek.com is saddened to report the passing of Lawrence Montaigne, the veteran actor who played the Romulan, Decius, in the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "Balance of Terror" in 1966 and returned a year later to portray Stonn, a Vulcan, in "Amok Time." The actor died on Friday, March 17, at the age of 86...

He was featured in such films as The Great Escape (with Steve McQueen and James Garner), [Tobruk] (with Rock Hudson and George Peppard) and The Power (with George Hamilton and Suzanne Pleshette), and later in Captain Sinbad and Damon & Pythias (both starring Guy Williams), The Mongols (starring Jack Palance and Anita Ekberg) and Escape To Witch Mountain (with Ray Milland and Donald Pleasance.) He starred in Pillar Of Fire (made in Israel), and in Moby Jackson and Rapina Al Quartiere Ovest (both made in Italy.) He worked, over the course of his career, in Italy, Germany, Yugoslavia, Israel, Spain and the U.S...
More (http://www.startrek.com/article/remembering-lawrence-montaigne-1931-2017)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Montaigne)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0598807/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 20, 2017, 12:10:00 am
Remembering Lawrence Montaigne, 1931-2017
More (http://www.startrek.com/article/remembering-lawrence-montaigne-1931-2017)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Montaigne)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0598807/)

@Machiavelli

Yikes! 86 is a good run. Especially for someone in the entertainment industry.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on March 20, 2017, 03:19:56 pm
David Rockerfeller passes away, 101 years old.
http://www.wect.com/story/34953228/billionaire-philanthropist-david-rockefeller-dies-at-age-101
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on March 20, 2017, 03:21:42 pm
Roger Pingeon, 1967 Tour De France winner passed away, last month, 1956 Tour De France winner,  Roger Walkowiak passed away.
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/features-goodbye-roger-pingeon#.WM76Ebj8pVI
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GrouchoTex on March 20, 2017, 05:43:27 pm
Forgive his sins, don't forget the music.

Chuck Berry, The Great Twenty Eight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz2egbIUrmo)

Chuck Berry, Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmm4tw9aVrk)

Chuck Berry with the Steve Miller Band, Live at the Fillmore Auditorium (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cLsR5hYzIo)

Chuck Berry, "Concerto in B Goode" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAnKqdlPWDo)

I love that great 28 CD.
It was all original Chess recordings, not the versions of the same he came out with later.
The Chess recordings were the original, and far superior.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GrouchoTex on March 20, 2017, 05:46:43 pm
Harmonica player James Cotton dies at 81

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/James_Cotton_One.jpg/320px-James_Cotton_One.jpg)

Cotton began his playing career working for blues legends Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters during the 1950s and early 1960s. He formed his own band in 1967, performing and recording with it through the 1990s. He earned a reputation as a frequent collaborator with both blues and rock and roll bands. He was rendered unable to sing after a throat cancer diagnosis in the 1990s but continued to perform with guest vocalists, many of them famous, until shortly before his death from pneumonia March 16.

Obituary from NPR (http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2017/03/16/520453907/james-cotton-legend-of-the-blues-harmonica-dies-at-81)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cotton)

I was fortunate enough to see him live.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on March 20, 2017, 06:03:13 pm
David Rockerfeller passes away, 101 years old.
http://www.wect.com/story/34953228/billionaire-philanthropist-david-rockefeller-dies-at-age-101
It is worthwhile to read the linked article about him.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on March 20, 2017, 06:10:03 pm
I love that great 28 CD.
It was all original Chess recordings, not the versions of the same he came out with later.
The Chess recordings were the original, and far superior.

I'm thinking of getting these two boxes:

(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0001/739/MI0001739632.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)

(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0000/875/MI0000875123.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on March 21, 2017, 05:45:56 am
Don Warden passed away, he was part of the Porter Waggoner Trio on Porter's show we'd see in Dallas. Warden went on to manage Dolly Parton who was also on the show. He was 87 years old.  Not sure if I ever saw him in Nashville with Dolly but I did see her at the Nashville airport.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/03/14/longtime-dolly-parton-manager-don-warden-dies-at-age-87.html

He plays the steel guitar; must be him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXnPVMGN4Vc

http://vimeo.com/208304324
Don Warden - Dollywood Porter Tribute

Boy, she looks good for being 72 or however many years she has, pardon me.

(http://f.tqn.com/y/countrymusic/1/S/Z/u/H/carrollcountyaccident.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/24/Just_Between_You_and_Me_%28Dolly_Parton_and_Porter_Wagoner_album_-_cover_art%29.jpg/220px-Just_Between_You_and_Me_%28Dolly_Parton_and_Porter_Wagoner_album_-_cover_art%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on March 21, 2017, 02:09:13 pm
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/martin-mcguinness-irish-rebel-turned-politician-dies-66-46269580
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on March 22, 2017, 12:27:52 am
Jerry Krause, GM who turned Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls into 6-time NBA champs, dies at 77
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18968449/jerry-krause-architect-chicago-bulls-dynasty-dies

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Krause)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on March 22, 2017, 12:29:51 am
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/martin-mcguinness-irish-rebel-turned-politician-dies-66-46269580

While it isn't customary or terribly tasteful - good. May he burn in Hell.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 22, 2017, 12:45:37 am
While it isn't customary or terribly tasteful - good. May he burn in Hell.

IRA, huh?  Yeah, may he.  Quite a bit of mayhem, he did.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on March 22, 2017, 01:29:16 am
I remember hearing about the troubles but I didn't know there were scenes like this back then.

(http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/main_image_essay_page/public/essay-image/IRA.1972.AFP_.jpg?itok=l1ZpuIpG)

From this article, some might find interesting: http://www.middleeasteye.net/essays/britain-s-greatest-terror-threat-again-950725172

Nail bombing horses, 1982: http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/seven-horses-of-the-queens-household-cavalry-lie-dead-1982/  (disturbing photo actually, should it bother anyone)

----------

See, with the internet, we can really be informed of so many more stories than how it was back then, keep up with sports stories. I'm not saying it's better nowadays, maybe it is to attain a variety of points of views on the news.

I listened to short wave radio growing up, namely the BBC, that's why I still often post from them, I recognize they have some biases, maybe a lot... but like the Daily Mail, if the story is there and mainly reporting the facts, that's not much of a problem.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on March 22, 2017, 09:58:06 am
Chuck Barris, Wacky Host and Creator of 'The Gong Show,' Dies at 87 (https://www.yahoo.com/music/chuck-barris-wacky-host-creator-gong-show-dies-050605615.html)

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Chuck Barris, the goofball host of The Gong Show who also was the manic mastermind behind two other
spontaneous game-show classics, The Dating Game and The Newlywed Game, has died. He was 87.

Barris, who in his book, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind: An Unauthorized Biography, claimed to have been an
assassin for the CIA - his implausible story became a fantastical 2002 movie directed by first-timer George Clooney and
written by Charlie Kaufman - died Tuesday of natural causes at his home in Palisades, N.Y., his family announced through
publicist Paul Shefrin.

The Philadelphia native also penned the 1962 pop song "Palisades Park," a tribute to the old amusement park in New Jersey
that was a hit for Freddy Cannon and figured high on Barris' list of career achievements . . .

For those who don't remember . . . or have been trying to forget . . . not necessarily in that order . . .

The Gong Show, "You Can't Say That" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP62rOq05I4)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on March 22, 2017, 10:19:53 am
It is worthwhile to read the linked article about him.

101 years is amazing.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on March 22, 2017, 10:54:37 am
 Chuck Barris was an odd duck, but the Gong Show was a hoot. 

Rest in peace, Chuck Barris.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 22, 2017, 11:40:53 am
Chuck Barris was an odd duck, but the Gong Show was a hoot. 

Rest in peace, Chuck Barris.

@Applewood

"The Newleywood Game" with Bob Eubanks may have been the funniest non-script show to ever appear on tv.  I had no idea it was a Chuck Barris show until today.

 I still remember one episode as clear as a bell. Chuck Eubanks had to have one of the best "straight men" to ever hold a microphone. Right up there with Groucho Marx.He could get people to say the damnedest things.

 This one episode the question to the women while their husbands waiting back stage was,"what was the last romantic gift your husband gave you?" Typical answers were "flowers","dinner at a nice restaurant",etc,etc,etc.

So.......,the husbands come back on stage and the first couple of husbands reply with the typical answers.

Then they get to the black guy. His answer is "Bob,I work in the warehouse for a wholesale martial aids manufacturer,so I got my wife a dildo about THIS (hands spread about a foot apart) long." Eubanks started laughing so hard he actually fell down. Meanwhile,the wife is beating the husband all about the head and shoulder with her answer card,screaming "YOU FOOL! MY MAMA'S WATCHING!" I think Eubanks had gotten back to his feet about then,but fell down again when that happened,but am unsure because I was laughing so hard I wet my pants a little,and tears were coming from my eyes.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on March 22, 2017, 12:51:22 pm
Chuck Barris, Wacky Host and Creator of 'The Gong Show,' Dies at 87 (https://www.yahoo.com/music/chuck-barris-wacky-host-creator-gong-show-dies-050605615.html)

For those who don't remember . . . or have been trying to forget . . . not necessarily in that order . . .

The Gong Show, "You Can't Say That" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP62rOq05I4)

Thanks for posting this, I just found out and was going to post. I loved the Gong Show and thebGong Show Movie
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on March 22, 2017, 01:37:08 pm
Chuck Barris was an odd duck, but the Gong Show was a hoot. 

Rest in peace, Chuck Barris.

He had kind of an Andy Kaufman vibe going on in the sense you never knew what was real with him. The Gong show was kind of pointless and bizarre but it sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuJHKVQ2kLA



Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on March 22, 2017, 01:38:52 pm
@sneakypete

Wonder if that couple is still married. 

Thanks for the laugh.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on March 22, 2017, 03:18:18 pm
I could have sworn Barris died several years ago! Sorry, Chuck, and rest in peace.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on March 22, 2017, 03:29:39 pm
I can't imagine anyone better to play Chuck Barris than Sam Rockwell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOu9n4ulmRk
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 22, 2017, 05:13:23 pm
@sneakypete

@Applewood

Wonder if that couple is still married. 

Thanks for the laugh.

I'm guessing they are if they are still alive. They looked to be in their 40's,and had that "settled in" look.

I honestly don't think I have ever seen anything funnier than that in my entire life,and it was totally unexpected. I actually lost my breath for a moment.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on March 22, 2017, 06:24:06 pm
Wasn't Chuck Barris a CIA assassin?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 22, 2017, 07:18:37 pm
Wasn't Chuck Barris a CIA assassin?

I think that's how he got the idea for The Gong Show.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on March 23, 2017, 12:48:45 am
Wasn't Chuck Barris a CIA assassin?
So he claimed.

I'm thinking he may have simply faked his death to do more missions for them.  :tongue2:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on March 23, 2017, 02:23:45 am
Ex-Mets, Yankees, Phillies manager Dallas Green dies at 82 (http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/03/ex-phillies_mets_yankees_manager_dallas_green_dies.html)

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Sad news from baseball's spring training.

Dallas Green, the ex-Phillies, Mets and Yankees skipper, passed way, per Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports.

Green was a major league pitcher from 1960-1967, winning 20 games and posting an ERA of 4.26 in eight seasons.

It was the next phase of Green's baseball life, managing and team building, that garnered him many more accolades.

Green was the manager of the 1980 World Series champion Phillies, navigating the franchise to its first world title. In three
years as Phillies skipper (1979-1981), Green owned a 169-130 in Philadelphia . . .

RIP Mr. Green. And I hope your beloved little granddaughter had a big hug and kiss for you upon your arrival. (The little girl
was killed in the attack that also wounded former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords . . . )
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on March 24, 2017, 07:54:32 am
Ex-Boston Drummer Sib Hashian Dead After Collapsing on Cruise Ship (https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-boston-drummer-sib-hashian-161854462.html)

Former Boston drummer Sib Hashian has died, TMZ reports. According to his son, Hashian was performing on stage at the Legends of Rock Cruise when he collapsed and died. He was 67 years old.

Hashian joined Boston in 1975. He played on the band’s 1976 self-titled debut, which includes “More Than a Feeling,” perhaps their best known song. Rolling Stone named Boston the 41st best debut album of all time, praising Hashian’s “climactic drum fills in the final fade-out” on “More Than a Feeling.” He also played on the follow-up (1978’s Don’t Look Back) and began recording on their third LP—1986’s Third Stage—before leaving the band.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on March 24, 2017, 08:45:55 am
Ex-Boston Drummer Sib Hashian Dead After Collapsing on Cruise Ship (https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-boston-drummer-sib-hashian-161854462.html)

Former Boston drummer Sib Hashian has died, TMZ reports. According to his son, Hashian was performing on stage at the Legends of Rock Cruise when he collapsed and died. He was 67 years old.

Hashian joined Boston in 1975. He played on the band’s 1976 self-titled debut, which includes “More Than a Feeling,” perhaps their best known song. Rolling Stone named Boston the 41st best debut album of all time, praising Hashian’s “climactic drum fills in the final fade-out” on “More Than a Feeling.” He also played on the follow-up (1978’s Don’t Look Back) and began recording on their third LP—1986’s Third Stage—before leaving the band.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on March 24, 2017, 02:39:08 pm
Weird. I was thinking about posting a Boston music thread last night. Their debut album was about the only thing we listened to in the summer of '76.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on March 24, 2017, 02:41:07 pm
Weird. I was thinking about posting a Boston music thread last night. Their debut album was about the only thing we listened to in the summer of '76.

It was among the very first albums I bought with my own money as a 13 year old.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: verga on March 24, 2017, 03:38:57 pm
It was among the very first albums I bought with my own money as a 13 year old.
@bigheadfred @Cripplecreek That album, Kansas, Left Overture, and Molly Hatchet, got me through 1976.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on March 24, 2017, 03:45:49 pm
@bigheadfred @Cripplecreek That album, Kansas, Left Overture, and Molly Hatchet, got me through 1976.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on March 24, 2017, 03:51:54 pm
@bigheadfred @Cripplecreek That album, Kansas, Left Overture, and Molly Hatchet, got me through 1976.

That reminds me, my sister bought me a shirt yesterday.

(http://i.imgur.com/OaqBHlX.png)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: verga on March 24, 2017, 04:46:31 pm
That reminds me, my sister bought me a shirt yesterday.

(http://i.imgur.com/OaqBHlX.png)
@ Cripplecreek  :bigsilly: :thumbsup3:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on March 24, 2017, 04:57:03 pm
Akron native Lola Albright, glamorous Hollywood actress, dies at age 92

Mark J. Price
Akron Beacon Journal
March 24, 2017

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Akron native Lola Albright, the former West High School student and WAKR receptionist who grew up to be a glamorous star in Hollywood, died Thursday morning in Toluca Lake, Calif. She was 92.

Albright was perhaps best-known for playing nightclub singer Edie Hart opposite Craig Stevens in the NBC television show Peter Gunn, which aired from 1958 to 1961. She was nominated for an Emmy in 1959 for the role...

The blue-eyed blonde shared the silver screen with some of the biggest names in show business. She appeared in nearly 40 movies, including Champion (1949) with Kirk Douglas, The Good Humor Man (1950) with her future husband Jack Carson, The Tender Trap (1955) with Frank Sinatra and Debbie Reynolds, Kid Galahad (1962) with Elvis Presley and Les Felins (1964) with Jane Fonda. She also appeared in dozens of TV shows before retiring from show business in the 1970s...
More (http://www.ohio.com/entertainment/movies/akron-native-lola-albright-glamorous-hollywood-actress-dies-at-age-92-1.755852)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lola_Albright)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0017030/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on March 26, 2017, 04:23:43 am
William Clay Matthews, patriarch of a family of pro football stars, dies at 88

Matthews, son of The Citadel's longtime athletic coach H.L. "Matty" Matthews, had a modest pro football career of his own, playing four seasons in the 1950s with the San Francisco 49ers; he was one of the few players who still played both offense and defense. Two of his sons, Clay Jr. and Bruce Matthews, both became bona fide stars in the league, with Bruce eventually reaching the Hall of Fame and Clay Jr. ranking third in NFL history in tackles. Those two sons also had sons of their own that reached the NFL, most prominently Clay III, currently a star linebacker for the Green Bay Packers, but also including Casey Matthews and offensive linemen Kevin, Jake and Mike Matthews. Clay Sr. was also grandfather to tight end Troy Niklas.

Death notice from the Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Clay-Matthews-Sr-football-family-patriarch-11025068.php)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clay_Matthews_Sr.)

Pro stats (http://www.nfl.com/player/claymatthews/2520367/profile)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on March 28, 2017, 03:50:07 am
Quote
Foundations singer Clem Curtis dies aged 76
Continued: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-39410011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuHhLiRkxNM

I have heard it, this is an English multi-racial group from the '60s and '70s (they also did "Build Me Up Buttercup" but he'd left the band by then), he is singing in the video.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on March 28, 2017, 03:08:25 pm
Christine Kaufmann, Austrian-born actress in ‘Town Without Pity,’ dies at 72

Quote
Christine Kaufmann, an Austrian-born actress who became the country’s first Golden Globe winner and was married to Hollywood star Tony Curtis in the 1960s, has died. She was 72...

She made her acting debut in 1952 and appeared in European films, including the Italian-made sword-and-sandal drama “The Last Days of Pompeii” (1959) opposite Steve Reeves. Her best-known film was “Town Without Pity” (1961), as a sexily precocious German girl raped by American soldiers occupying her town. Kirk Douglas portrayed the Army defense attorney...
More (https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/christine-kaufmann-austrian-born-actress-in-town-without-pity-dies-at-72/2017/03/28/cb39d218-13be-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Kaufmann)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on March 28, 2017, 09:31:05 pm
Quote
S.African anti-apartheid icon Ahmed Kathrada dead at 87
AFP Relax News•March 28, 2017

Leading South African anti-apartheid activist Ahmed Kathrada, one of Nelson Mandela's closest colleagues in the long struggle against white rule, died early Tuesday aged 87, his eponymous charity foundation said.

Kathrada was among those tried and jailed alongside Mandela in the Rivonia trial in 1964, which drew worldwide attention and highlighted the brutal legal system under the apartheid regime.

He died in hospital in Johannesburg after a short illness following brain surgery.

Kathrada spent 26 years and three months in prison, 18 of which were on Robben Island.

Continued: https://www.yahoo.com/news/african-anti-apartheid-icon-ahmed-kathrada-dead-87-054703647.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on March 28, 2017, 10:12:04 pm
In my youth I had a crush on Tony Curtis and was jealous when he married Christine Kaufmann.  She was a beautiful woman and a pretty good actress.  Town Without Pity  was a very good film. 

Rest in peace, Miss Kaufmann.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 29, 2017, 12:03:29 am

Leading South African anti-apartheid activist Ahmed Kathrada, one of Nelson Mandela's closest colleagues in the long struggle against white rule, died early Tuesday aged 87, his eponymous charity foundation said.

Kathrada was among those tried and jailed alongside Mandela in the Rivonia trial in 1964, which drew worldwide attention and highlighted the brutal legal system under the apartheid regime.


Yeah,it must have been brutal in that prison for him to have ended up dying so young. </S>
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on March 29, 2017, 12:04:57 am
In my youth I had a crush on Tony Curtis and was jealous when he married Christine Kaufmann.  She was a beautiful woman and a pretty good actress.  Town Without Pity  was a very good film. 

Rest in peace, Miss Kaufmann.

@Applewood

Yes,it was. Didn't Gene Pitney sing the title song? 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on March 29, 2017, 12:35:17 am
@Applewood

Yes,it was. Didn't Gene Pitney sing the title song?

Yes indeed. 

https://youtu.be/ZCRSB8o3CN4

Didn't know Pitney passed on -- heart attack at 66.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on March 29, 2017, 06:14:06 pm
Agustina Castro, Sister of Fidel and Raúl, Dies at 78
MARCH 27, 2017
NYT (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/27/world/americas/agustina-castro-dead-sister-of-fidel-castro.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fobituaries&action=click&contentCollection=obituaries&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront)


Agustina del Carmen Castro Ruz, the youngest sibling of Fidel and Raúl Castro, died on Sunday in Cuba. She was 78.

The cause was complications of an operation she recently had after fracturing a hip, her sister Juanita Castro said, adding that Agustina had been in poor health for more than a year.

Agustina Castro, the youngest of seven siblings, never served in the Cuban government and kept a low profile, in contrast to her two brothers, who have collectively run the country for nearly 60 years. Her sister Juanita is a prominent member of the Cuban-American activist community in South Florida.

Fidel Castro died in November at 90, a little over a decade after he stepped down as president of Cuba, citing severe illness. Raúl Castro, who succeeded him, turns 86 in June.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on March 31, 2017, 09:00:23 pm
Ruben Amaro Sr. dies at 81

Quote
Ruben Amaro Sr., who played a role in the Phillies greatest successes but was forever haunted by his part in the franchise's most infamous failure, died Friday in a Miami nursing home. He was 81...

A native of Mexico with roots in Cuba, Mr. Amaro was instrumental in helping the Phillies make inroads in Latin America, aiding in the signing of such talents as Julio Franco and Juan Samuel.

But he will be best remembered in Philadelphia as a Gold Glove-winning shortstop on Gene Mauch's ill-fated 1964 Phillies, the team that blew a lead of 6 1/2 games in the last two weeks of the season...
More (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Philadelphia-Phillies-Ruben-Amaro-Sr-dies-at-81.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rub%C3%A9n_Amaro_Sr.)

Career stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/amaroru01.shtml)

@EasyAce


Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on March 31, 2017, 09:05:35 pm
You can get the complete story of the 1964 Phillies and their aftermath in this book:

(http://www.psupress.org/images/covers/294wide/0-271-02333-3md_294.jpg)

RIP Mr. Amaro. You weren't even close to one of the big causes of The Phold . . .
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on April 01, 2017, 03:30:16 am
Quote
Gilbert Baker, LGBT rainbow flag creator, dies aged 65
Gilbert Baker, the San-Francisco-based artist who created the rainbow flag as a symbol for the gay community, has died aged 65, US media report.

The San Francisco Chronicle said Mr Baker died in his sleep at his home in New York on Thursday night.

He initially designed an eight-colour flag in 1978 for the city's gay freedom day, the precursor to the modern pride parade.

Continued: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39462530

I thought I heard they got the rainbow flag though from some other group originally, something like that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 01, 2017, 07:50:01 am
I thought I heard they got the rainbow flag though from some other group originally, something like that.
Nah. They stole it from this guy....
Genesis 9:13
Quote
I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on April 01, 2017, 04:17:18 pm
Nah. They stole it from this guy....
Genesis 9:13

I thought he stole the idea from The Rainbow Man Jesus freak from sports events in the 70's.

(http://nightflight.com/wp-content/uploads/RAINBOW-MAN-8-425x500.jpg)

The guy is doing life in prison now for flipping his wig. Parole eligble (again) this year.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on April 01, 2017, 07:50:16 pm
Acclaimed Russian poet Yevgeny Yevtushenko dies in Oklahoma

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Acclaimed Russian poet Yevgeny Yevtushenko, whose work focused on war atrocities and denounced anti-Semitism and tyrannical dictators, has died. He was 84...

Yevtushenko gained notoriety in the former Soviet Union while in his 20s, with poetry denouncing Josef Stalin. He gained international acclaim as a young revolutionary with "Babi Yar," the unflinching 1961 poem that told of the slaughter of nearly 34,000 Jews by the Nazis and denounced the anti-Semitism that had spread throughout the Soviet Union...

Until "Babi Yar" was published, the history of the massacre was shrouded in the fog of the Cold War...
More (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/acclaimed-russian-poet-yevgeny-yevtushenko-dies-oklahoma-46514260)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Yevtushenko)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on April 03, 2017, 04:21:17 pm
Richard Bolles Dies at 90; Wrote ‘What Color Is Your Parachute?’

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Richard N. Bolles, a former Harvard physics major, Episcopal minister and career counselor whose own twisting vocational path led to his writing “What Color Is Your Parachute?” — the most popular job-hunter’s manual of the 1970s and beyond — died on Friday in San Ramon, Calif. He was 90...

Mr. Bolles (pronounced bowls) originally self-published his manual in 1970 as a photocopied how-to booklet for unemployed Protestant ministers.

In 1972, he recast it to appeal to a wider audience and found an independent publisher in Berkeley, Calif., willing to print small batches so that it could be frequently updated. Since then, “Parachute” has sold more than 10 million copies worldwide and has never been out of print...

Richard Nelson Bolles was born on March 19, 1927, in Milwaukee, the first of three children of Donald Clinton Bolles, an editor for The Associated Press, and the former Frances Fifield, a homemaker.

His brother, Donald Jr., who followed his father into journalism, was killed in 1976 in Phoenix when a bomb detonated under his car. Don Bolles was then working as an investigative reporter for The Arizona Republic, and the killing was widely believed to be linked to a series of exposés he had been writing about corporate and organized crime in the state. The assassination resulted in the prosecution of one person but remained largely unsolved...

Full article (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/01/business/richard-bolles-dead-what-color-is-your-parachute.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nelson_Bolles)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 03, 2017, 07:17:00 pm
Acclaimed Russian poet Yevgeny Yevtushenko dies in Oklahoma
More (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/acclaimed-russian-poet-yevgeny-yevtushenko-dies-oklahoma-46514260)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Yevtushenko)

@Machiavelli

Quote
Yevtushenko gained notoriety in the former Soviet Union while in his 20s, with poetry denouncing Josef Stalin.

Nobody can ever accuse him of not having any stones,can they? How the HELL did he manage to live to be 84?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 03, 2017, 08:13:50 pm
Leonard Litwin, New York real estate and politician bankroller, dies at 102

In many ways, Litwin was the antithesis of one of his better-known New York City rivals, current President Donald Trump. Litwin was very quiet with his work in real estate, generally shunning publicity and only releasing information when required to by law. At the time of his death, he had a net worth estimated around US$1 billion, stemming mainly from several thousand luxury apartments on the upper East Side of Manhattan.

Litwin is somewhat better known in recent years for his notorious practice of political bribery: promising campaign contributions in exchange for getting favorable regulatory and tax breaks for his real estate projects. His shell company Glenwood Management donated more money to New York politicians than any other entity, totaling in the millions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of that going to current governor Andrew Cuomo. He was identified as a co-conspirator in the corruption trials of former state legislative leaders Sheldon Silver and Dean Skelos, both of whom were convicted, but avoided prosecution himself.

Obituary from the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/nyregion/leonard-litwin-dead-real-estate-developer-glenwood-new-york.html?_r=0)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Litwin)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 03, 2017, 08:17:19 pm
Leonard Litwin, New York real estate and politician bankroller, dies at 102

In many ways, Litwin was the antithesis of one of his better-known New York City rivals, current President Donald Trump. Litwin was very quiet with his work in real estate, generally shunning publicity and only releasing information when required to by law. At the time of his death, he had a net worth estimated around US$1 billion, stemming mainly from several thousand luxury apartments on the upper East Side of Manhattan.

Litwin is somewhat better known in recent years for his notorious practice of political bribery: promising campaign contributions in exchange for getting favorable regulatory and tax breaks for his real estate projects. His shell company Glenwood Management donated more money to New York politicians than any other entity, totaling in the millions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of that going to current governor Andrew Cuomo. He was identified as a co-conspirator in the corruption trials of former state legislative leaders Sheldon Silver and Dean Skelos, both of whom were convicted, but avoided prosecution himself.

Obituary from the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/nyregion/leonard-litwin-dead-real-estate-developer-glenwood-new-york.html?_r=0)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Litwin)

Ah, those New York (City) values....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on April 04, 2017, 01:58:41 pm
Lonnie Brooks, Bluesman, passes away.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lonnie-brooks-blues-legend-is-dead-at-83/

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 04, 2017, 02:12:36 pm
Lonnie Brooks, Bluesman, passes away.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lonnie-brooks-blues-legend-is-dead-at-83/

@TomSea

Unlike most of the people we see mentioned here,Mr Brooks spent his life doing something useful.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GrouchoTex on April 04, 2017, 05:30:11 pm
@TomSea

Unlike most of the people we see mentioned here,Mr Brooks spent his life doing something useful.

@TomSea
@sneakypete
I was fortunate enough to see him live a few decades back.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 05, 2017, 01:14:46 am
For you oldies fans, the lead singer of Rosie and the Originals ("Angel Baby") has passed away . . .

Quote
Celebrity
'Angel Baby' singer dies; classic hit covered by Lennon
(https://www.yahoo.com/music/angel-baby-singer-dead-71-213202198.html)

PHOENIX (AP) — The singer of the 1960s hit "Angel Baby," a song covered by artists such as John Lennon and Linda Ronstadt, has died.

Rose Hamlin, the 71-year-old lead singer of Rosie and the Originals, died in her sleep on March 30, according to a post by her daughter, Debbie Cray, on the late performer's website.

Hamlin was born Rosalie Hamlin on July 21, 1945, in Oregon. She was raised in Alaska before moving to California when she was a preteen.

Hamlin was 14 years old when she penned "Angel Baby," a song that Lennon would later call one of his all-time favorites.

Cray said Hamlin hadn't performed in years over concerns for her health, but she had taken up tending a "lovely garden," according to her post on the website.

Cray said in an interview with The Associated Press that her mother was a nature and animal lover who kept chickens and enjoyed fishing, planting trees and camping. She had a great sense of humor and loved playing pranks on people, Cray said.

"I think she really enjoyed just being Rosie the mom and grandma. I think after a while like that was just a separate life," Cray said of her mother's music career.

Hamlin wrote in her autobiography online that she penned "Angel Baby" about a teenage love and struggled for years to get credit for the song after a man was listed as its writer.

"We were musicians and not businesspeople. We got burned like so many of our peers in those days," Hamlin wrote.

Her son, John Sanders, said his mother told him about the difficulties of the music industry. "She really had to work a lot harder to get the same recognition," she said.

Hamlin also wrote about her pride in many of her accomplishments, like being in an exhibit at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, Ohio, about one-hit-wonders. Hamlin wrote that she was the first Latina to be on that list, and she also was the first Latina to appear on Dick Clark's "American Bandstand" show.

Hamlin lived in New Mexico at the time of her death. She left behind Cray, Sanders, and son Joey Tafolla, along with four grandchildren.

RIP Rosie . . .
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: montanajoe on April 05, 2017, 01:35:00 am
For you oldies fans, the lead singer of Rosie and the Originals ("Angel Baby") has passed away . . .

RIP Rosie . . .


Yep RIP..."Angel Baby" is one of the songs that I often get as an ear worm and just about the only one that I enjoy....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on April 05, 2017, 02:11:06 am
Angel Baby has an interesting story to it.

Read it for oneself, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Baby_(Rosie_and_the_Originals_song)

Although I have heard it now some dozens if not hundreds of times, John Lennon's version is awesome and he dedicates it to "Rosie, wherever she may be"... with Phil Spector's wall of sound, too bad Spector went off the deep end because he really could make music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Ws7d9A9Ys

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on April 05, 2017, 11:03:43 pm
Roy Sievers, Slugging Washington Senator in the ’50s, Dies at 90

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Roy Sievers, who won the American League’s first Rookie of the Year Award playing for the 1949 St. Louis Browns and became one of baseball’s leading power hitters of the 1950s with the original Washington Senators, died on Monday at his home in Spanish Lake, Mo. He was 90...

Playing in the outfield and at first base for 17 major league seasons, Sievers hit 318 home runs. His best season came in 1957, when he had a league-leading 42 homers and 114 runs batted in while hitting .301 for the last-place Senators. The right-handed-batting Sievers also hit home runs in six consecutive games at the Senators’ Griffith Stadium that summer, conquering its cavernous left field in matching an American League record that has since been broken...
More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/sports/baseball/roy-sievers-dead-slugger-with-washington-senators.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sievers)

Career stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sievero01.shtml)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 06, 2017, 02:27:58 am
Roy Sievers, Slugging Washington Senator in the ’50s, Dies at 90
More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/sports/baseball/roy-sievers-dead-slugger-with-washington-senators.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sievers)

Career stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sievero01.shtml)

A shame he got to spend most of his career with bad teams. When he was a Senator the first time
(he ended up for a very tiny spell on the expansion version at the end of his career), it was still
fair to say of their home city, "Washington--First in war, first in peace, and last in the American
League."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on April 06, 2017, 06:08:23 pm
Don Rickles has died at 90.

Variety (http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/don-rickles-dead-dies-comedian-insult-vegas-1202025068/):


Don Rickles, Legendary Insult Comic, Dies at 90
April 6, 2017 | 11:00AM PT

Abrasive comic Don Rickles, the honorary Rat Pack member and celebrity roast guest whose career spanned six decades, has died. He was 90.

Rickles died Thursday morning at his home in Los Angeles from kidney failure, his longtime publicist Paul Shefrin confirmed.

Though he appeared in films and on television, Rickles’ mainstay was always nightclub performances, appearing in Las Vegas and elsewhere into his late 80s. He also found late success as the voice of Mr. Potato Head in the “Toy Story” films, which were exceptional box office performers, and popped up frequently on latenight talkshows.

Rickles’ career had its ups and downs as comedic tastes changed, and his curmudgeonly persona was sometimes out of kilter with audience tastes, but he survived long after many of his contemporaries had disappeared into retirement. And when he was hot, he was a potent club headliner, insulting his audience with his two key signature phrases “dummy” and “hockey puck.”

His attempts at series TV did not succeed because of the astringency of Rickles’ personality. His serious side, however, was occasionally put to good use in guest starring roles in episodic TV and the occasional dramatic role in movies such as his first, “Run Silent, Run Deep,” and Martin Scorsese’s 1995 film “Casino.”

Donald Jay Rickles was born in Manhattan and studied acting at the Academy of Dramatic Arts in New York after serving in the Navy during WWII. He began appearing in nightclubs during the ’50s but didn’t really break through until his first appearance on “The Tonight Show With Johnny Carson” in 1965.

In the meantime, he worked in movies. After his debut in WWII submarine drama “Run Silent, Run Deep” (1958), he appeared in the Tony Curtis-Debbie Reynolds romantic comedy “The Rat Race” and various AIP beach movies with Annette Funicello and Frankie Avalon.   ...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 06, 2017, 06:10:39 pm
Don Rickles has died at 90.

Aww man that sucks.

Rickles had a good run and had even continued to work in recent years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZblPwNLH6hg
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on April 06, 2017, 06:20:22 pm
Don Rickles has died at 90.

Variety (http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/don-rickles-dead-dies-comedian-insult-vegas-1202025068/):


Don Rickles, Legendary Insult Comic, Dies at 90
April 6, 2017 | 11:00AM PT

Abrasive comic Don Rickles, the honorary Rat Pack member and celebrity roast guest whose career spanned six decades, has died. He was 90.

Rickles died Thursday morning at his home in Los Angeles from kidney failure, his longtime publicist Paul Shefrin confirmed.

Though he appeared in films and on television, Rickles’ mainstay was always nightclub performances, appearing in Las Vegas and elsewhere into his late 80s. He also found late success as the voice of Mr. Potato Head in the “Toy Story” films, which were exceptional box office performers, and popped up frequently on latenight talkshows.

Rickles’ career had its ups and downs as comedic tastes changed, and his curmudgeonly persona was sometimes out of kilter with audience tastes, but he survived long after many of his contemporaries had disappeared into retirement. And when he was hot, he was a potent club headliner, insulting his audience with his two key signature phrases “dummy” and “hockey puck.”

His attempts at series TV did not succeed because of the astringency of Rickles’ personality. His serious side, however, was occasionally put to good use in guest starring roles in episodic TV and the occasional dramatic role in movies such as his first, “Run Silent, Run Deep,” and Martin Scorsese’s 1995 film “Casino.”

Donald Jay Rickles was born in Manhattan and studied acting at the Academy of Dramatic Arts in New York after serving in the Navy during WWII. He began appearing in nightclubs during the ’50s but didn’t really break through until his first appearance on “The Tonight Show With Johnny Carson” in 1965.

In the meantime, he worked in movies. After his debut in WWII submarine drama “Run Silent, Run Deep” (1958), he appeared in the Tony Curtis-Debbie Reynolds romantic comedy “The Rat Race” and various AIP beach movies with Annette Funicello and Frankie Avalon.   ...

I heard Rickles at a recent event (can't remember the occasion), he was as entertaining as ever but it was clear his brand  of humor was no longer palatable to today's hypersensitive tastes.

I don't blame Rickles for that at all. He was just fine.

RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on April 06, 2017, 07:16:20 pm
One of the best.  Yes, Rickless was insulting, but it was harmless and he had talent.  Which is more than I can say for many of today's comedians.  Most of them think a string of four-letter words makes them funny.  It doesn't. 

Rest in peace, Mr. Rickles.  And thank you for all the years of laughter.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 06, 2017, 07:29:28 pm
One of the best.  Yes, Rickless was insulting, but it was harmless and he had talent.  Which is more than I can say for many of today's comedians.  Most of them think a string of four-letter words makes them funny.  It doesn't. 

Rest in peace, Mr. Rickles.  And thank you for all the years of laughter.

Goodbye, dummy!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 06, 2017, 08:02:38 pm
RIP Mr. Rickles.  You'll always be my favorite Hockey Puck.   8888crybaby
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 06, 2017, 08:17:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-KeTNU-ods
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 06, 2017, 09:58:19 pm
RIP Mr. RIckles, and thanks for the laughs!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on April 06, 2017, 10:08:03 pm
Aww man that sucks.

Rickles had a good run and had even continued to work in recent years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZblPwNLH6hg
I just recently watched some old Friars Club Roasts on one of the oldie stations and they left Rickles for last and with the most time, he was hilarious. Amazing that while the old greats could be as dirty as anyone, they unlike almost all of the so called comedians of today could bring tears to ours from laughing at sanitized jokes too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 06, 2017, 10:38:37 pm
I just recently watched some old Friars Club Roasts on one of the oldie stations and they left Rickles for last and with the most time, he was hilarious. Amazing that while the old greats could be as dirty as anyone, they unlike almost all of the so called comedians of today could bring tears to ours from laughing at sanitized jokes too.

Bob Newhart's stand up routine freaked me out.

He was my Church lady grandmother's favorite comedic actor on the Newhart show.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on April 06, 2017, 11:06:27 pm
Trans-Siberian Orchestra Founder Paul O'Neill Dead at 61

https://www.yahoo.com/music/trans-siberian-orchestra-founder-paul-152442298.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 06, 2017, 11:38:15 pm
I just recently watched some old Friars Club Roasts on one of the oldie stations and they left Rickles for last and with the most time, he was hilarious. Amazing that while the old greats could be as dirty as anyone, they unlike almost all of the so called comedians of today could bring tears to ours from laughing at sanitized jokes too.

The Merchant of Venom gets a taste of his own medicine . . .

Kraft Music Hall, The Friars Club Roasts Don Rickles (Johnny Carson, roastmaster) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYFPGYljeOk)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 07, 2017, 06:36:30 am
I just recently watched some old Friars Club Roasts on one of the oldie stations and they left Rickles for last and with the most time, he was hilarious. Amazing that while the old greats could be as dirty as anyone, they unlike almost all of the so called comedians of today could bring tears to ours from laughing at sanitized jokes too.

@GtHawk

My favorite comedians of all time were Buddy Hackett,and Johnathan Winters. If you ever get a chance to see a video of Hackett talking his way into a joke,you can see the 7 year old mischievous boy he used to be hiding behind his eyes and giggling. I think he was probably my favorite guest on the Carson show.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on April 07, 2017, 07:22:21 am
@GtHawk

My favorite comedians of all time were Buddy Hackett,and Johnathan Winters. If you ever get a chance to see a video of Hackett talking his way into a joke,you can see the 7 year old mischievous boy he used to be hiding behind his eyes and giggling. I think he was probably my favorite guest on the Carson show.
They run the old Carson shows on Antenna TV, one of the retro stations, so I make a point to catch those. The one thing I never payed attention to back in the 70's and 80's was how liberally biased Carson was, which really showed in his slams against Republican Presidents versus democrat.
@sneakypete
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 07, 2017, 01:30:08 pm
They run the old Carson shows on Antenna TV, one of the retro stations, so I make a point to catch those. The one thing I never payed attention to back in the 70's and 80's was how liberally biased Carson was, which really showed in his slams against Republican Presidents versus democrat.

You might consider that, during Johnny Carson's tenure at the helm of The Tonight Show, he spent more
years hosting the show during Republican presidencies than Democratic ones: he took the show over in
February 1962, during the Kennedy presidency, and ended in May 1992 during the last days of George H.W.
Bush. He had six years of Kennedy/Johnson, eight of Nixon/Ford, four of Jimmy Carter, eight of Ronald Reagan,
and three and a half of the first Bush. I can remember he was just as full of zingers toward Johnson and Carter
as toward anyone else sitting in the White House; it was a question of who was there at the time, and he did M.C.
Ronald Reagan's first inaugural in the bargain. (I had to read about some of his zaps on JFK since I didn't get
to see the show at that time.) And when he hosted Friar's Club roasts---before Dean Martin turned them into
a semi-weekly series---he often had Reagan among the roasters.

Carson himself had a few liberal attitudes but his former lawyer once said Carson was generally "anti-big---anti-
big government, anti-big money, anti-big bullies, anti-big blowhards." He punctured Republican and Democratic
blowhards with fairly equivalent brio, which might explain why, say, such a Republican as Alfonse D'Amato could
be a Carson target but such a Democrat as Daniel Patrick Moynihan (today, someone like Moynihan would probably be
excommunicated from the Democratic Party) wasn't.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on April 07, 2017, 06:14:06 pm
You might consider that, during Johnny Carson's tenure at the helm of The Tonight Show, he spent more
years hosting the show during Republican presidencies than Democratic ones: he took the show over in
February 1962, during the Kennedy presidency, and ended in May 1992 during the last days of George H.W.
Bush. He had six years of Kennedy/Johnson, eight of Nixon/Ford, four of Jimmy Carter, eight of Ronald Reagan,
and three and a half of the first Bush. I can remember he was just as full of zingers toward Johnson and Carter
as toward anyone else sitting in the White House; it was a question of who was there at the time, and he did M.C.
Ronald Reagan's first inaugural in the bargain. (I had to read about some of his zaps on JFK since I didn't get
to see the show at that time.) And when he hosted Friar's Club roasts---before Dean Martin turned them into
a semi-weekly series---he often had Reagan among the roasters.

Carson himself had a few liberal attitudes but his former lawyer once said Carson was generally "anti-big---anti-
big government, anti-big money, anti-big bullies, anti-big blowhards." He punctured Republican and Democratic
blowhards with fairly equivalent brio, which might explain why, say, such a Republican as Alfonse D'Amato could
be a Carson target but such a Democrat as Daniel Patrick Moynihan (today, someone like Moynihan would probably be
excommunicated from the Democratic Party) wasn't.
I take into consideration the type of jokes and attacks by Carson on Republican presidents versus Democrat ones, not the quantity of years of Republican versus Democrat. And if you ever caught shows where he and another uber liberal like his former writer Dick Cavett get together you would have no doubts whatsoever to Carson's political bent. Also watching the older shows you could see how tone deaf he was to his audience when he went after Reagan.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 07, 2017, 06:18:38 pm
I take into consideration the type of jokes and attacks by Carson on Republican presidents versus Democrat ones, not the quantity of years of Republican versus Democrat. And if you ever caught shows where he and another uber liberal like his former writer Dick Cavett get together you would have no doubts whatsoever to Carson's political bent. Also watching the older shows you could see how tone deaf he was to his audience when he went after Reagan.

Personally, if it were me I'd be going after the pols and presidents of both parties. I trust them
about as far as I could throw my house.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 07, 2017, 06:55:50 pm

... a Republican as Alfonse D'Amato could
be a Carson target but such a Democrat as Daniel Patrick Moynihan (today, someone like Moynihan would probably be
excommunicated from the Democratic Party) wasn't.

@EasyAce

He WAS excommunicated from the Dim Party. This happened right after the Clintroids left the WH,and Bubbette! needed a political job to keep the graft rolling in. Moynihan was pretty much forced to retire because she wanted his Senate seat. It was in NY,and there was absolutely no way in the universe for anyone but a Dim to win it.

They will do the same for Ms Howdy Doody once they find a nice,safe congressional seat for her to occupy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 07, 2017, 07:19:55 pm
@EasyAce

He WAS excommunicated from the Dim Party. This happened right after the Clintroids left the WH,and Bubbette! needed a political job to keep the graft rolling in. Moynihan was pretty much forced to retire because she wanted his Senate seat. It was in NY,and there was absolutely no way in the universe for anyone but a Dim to win it.

They will do the same for Ms Howdy Doody once they find a nice,safe congressional seat for her to occupy.

Really?  Since he passed just two years after leaving office I always thought he decided not to run because he knew it was time.  This is in contrast to others who consider Senator to be an Office for Life, like Ted Kennedy and John McCain.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 07, 2017, 10:03:38 pm
Really?  Since he passed just two years after leaving office I always thought he decided not to run because he knew it was time.  This is in contrast to others who consider Senator to be an Office for Life, like Ted Kennedy and John McCain.

Moynihan's death came about as a result of complications after he suffered a ruptured appendix.

@sneakypete
If the Clintons indeed wanted to force Moynihan out of the Senate, it was probably with revenge in mind:
Moynihan had actually opposed HillaryCare, for numerous reasons. He also condemned partial-birth
abortion: I think this is just too close to infanticide. A child has been born and it has exited the uterus.
What on Earth is this procedure?
(Earlier in his Senate years he charged assorted "pro-choice" groups
with "ruining the Democratic Party with your insistence on abortion.")

George F. Will dedicated his book supporting term limits, Restoration, to Moynihan with this epigraph:
Were there more like him in Washington, this book would not need to have been written.

My personal favourite memory of Moynihan was his first Senate campaign, when he ran against incumbent
Jim Buckley. At their first debate, Buckley spoke first and addressed him as "Professor Moynihan of Harvard."
(Which Moynihan had been, in between his work in the Nixon Administration and his service as U.S. ambas-
sador to the U.N.) "Ahhh," Moynihan interjected, "the mudslinging has begun." Buckley laughed louder than
the audience, which laughed loud enough.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 07, 2017, 10:42:40 pm
Moynihan's death came about as a result of complications after he suffered a ruptured appendix.

@sneakypete
If the Clintons indeed wanted to force Moynihan out of the Senate, it was probably with revenge in mind:
Moynihan had actually opposed HillaryCare, for numerous reasons. He also condemned partial-birth
abortion: I think this is just too close to infanticide. A child has been born and it has exited the uterus.
What on Earth is this procedure?
(Earlier in his Senate years he charged assorted "pro-choice" groups
with "ruining the Democratic Party with your insistence on abortion.")

George F. Will dedicated his book supporting term limits, Restoration, to Moynihan with this epigraph:
Were there more like him in Washington, this book would not need to have been written.

My personal favourite memory of Moynihan was his first Senate campaign, when he ran against incumbent
Jim Buckley. At their first debate, Buckley spoke first and addressed him as "Professor Moynihan of Harvard."
(Which Moynihan had been, in between his work in the Nixon Administration and his service as U.S. ambas-
sador to the U.N.) "Ahhh," Moynihan interjected, "the mudslinging has begun." Buckley laughed louder than
the audience, which laughed loud enough.

@EasyAce @Cyber Liberty

I don't know,but SUSPECT Moynihan had some petticoats hanging in his closet and Bubba and Bubbette's illegal possession of the 1000+ FBI "raw" background files on political figures played a major role in getting him to step down so she could step up. After all,he was old and had a distinguished career and retirement to protect,and really had nothing to gain by resisting them.

All I know for sure is they weren't what you would call bosom buddies one minute,and during that minute she decided she needed a US Senate seat from NY. The next minute he was resigning and giving a fund-raising party for her campaign for his then-empty Senate seat at his vacation home on the sea.

Sumptin smell. I can think of no set of legitimate circumstances where the Clintroids and the Moynihans would suddenly become bosom buds.   Dim or not,he had character and standards,and neither of he Clinton's even understand what the words mean.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on April 07, 2017, 10:53:01 pm
RIP Don Rickles. There are still some comedians around. Jeff Dunham makes me laugh.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 08, 2017, 01:41:23 am
RIP Don Rickles. There are still some comedians around. Jeff Dunham makes me laugh.

@bigheadfred

That's the guy with the Achmed,The Terrorist puppet,right?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 08, 2017, 01:45:13 am
@bigheadfred

That's the guy with the Achmed,The Terrorist puppet,right?

I KEEL you!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 08, 2017, 08:47:45 am
@bigheadfred

That's the guy with the Achmed,The Terrorist puppet,right?
Yeah. I enjoy his stuff, too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on April 08, 2017, 03:44:48 pm
Bob Cerv, Kansas City’s home-run champ, dies at age 91

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Bob Cerv, who holds the single-season record for home runs by a Major League Baseball player in Kansas City history, died Thursday in Blair, Neb. He was 91.

Cerv, who served during World War II, was friends with former President Harry Truman, played basketball and baseball at Nebraska and, as a member of the Yankees, roomed with Roger Maris and Mickey Mantle as they dueled for the home-run title in 1961...

In six seasons with the Yankees, Cerv was mostly a part-time outfielder/pinch hitter, but he played in two World Series (1955 and 1956), and the Yankees won the 1956 Series. Cerv was sold to the Kansas City A’s after that season.

“I was tickled to death because I could play every day,” Cerv told the Omaha World-Herald in 2015. “And I proved to them that I could play every day.”

Although he was 33, Cerv had his finest season in the majors in 1958 and was named to his only All-Star team during a season in which he hit .305 with 38 homers and 104 RBIs...
More (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/article143484029.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Cerv)

Career stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cervbo01.shtml)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 08, 2017, 05:35:21 pm
Bob Cerv was sold or traded to or from the Yankees three times in his career. Other than the Yankees selling
him to the A's and the A's trading him back, Cerv was an original Los Angeles Angel, when the Angels picked
him among those stocking the team in the first American League expansion draft. Then the Angels traded him
a month and a half into their first season . . . to (you guessed it) the Yankees, with pitcher Tex Clevenger, in
exchange for Ryne Duren, Johnny James, and Lee Thomas---who'd eventually build the 1993 Phillies' pennant
winner as general manager.

One of Cerv's best friends on the Yankees was his former A's teammate Roger Maris. The two shared an apart-
ment in Queens and acquired a third roommate during 1961---Mickey Mantle, after one too many Mantle
late night escapades apparently convinced Maris the Hall of Famer would be more likely to take care of him-
self if he roomed with Maris and Cerv. It worked until Mantle developed a nasty hip abscess following a
vitamin shot and was taken out for the season's final couple of weeks---and, out of the home run race in
which he and Maris gunned for Babe Ruth's single season record (Maris, of course, finally broke it)---and
missed the '61 World Series while he was at it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on April 09, 2017, 07:33:57 pm
Cerv was an original Los Angeles Angel, when the Angels picked him among those stocking the team in the first American League expansion draft.

@EasyAce

Yep. And also, the Angels had the very first pick in that very first MLB expansion draft. I bet you can name him without looking it up.  ^-^
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 09, 2017, 08:47:57 pm
@EasyAce

Yep. And also, the Angels had the very first pick in that very first MLB expansion draft. I bet you can name him without looking it up.  ^-^
@Machiavelli
I bet you're wrong---Eli (Vanna, I'd Like to Buy a Vowel) Grba.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: txradioguy on April 10, 2017, 07:32:39 pm
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Spike Dykes, who retired as Texas Tech’s winningest football coach and matched the victories with his legacy as a colorful character full of funny stories, died early Monday of an apparent heart attack. He was 79.

http://lubbockonline.com/news/sports-red-raiders/sports/2017-04-10/former-tech-coach-spike-dykes-dies-79

Loved it when he was beating Texas and those Aggies on Saturday when he was in Lubbock.

Hated it when he was the head coach at Lee High beating my MHS Bulldogs on the last Friday in November every year.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 11, 2017, 11:58:55 pm
RIP the founding guitarist of the J. Geils Band . . .

Guitarist known as J. Geils found dead in Massachusetts home (http://www.wcvb.com/article/guitarist-known-as-j-geils-found-dead-in-massachusetts-home/9263211)

The J. Geils Band, Blow Your Face Out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bDlvQD3S3k)

He was 71.

RIP and thanks for the great music . . .
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 12, 2017, 12:03:03 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-SgGHlZXQc
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 12, 2017, 12:06:17 am
The title track of the last genuinely great J. Geils Band album . . .

The J. Geils Band, Monkey Island (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVZLqe77IQU)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 12, 2017, 12:07:10 am
Saw The Jay Giles band at the FOX theater in Detroit back in the 80s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gdvgjLvi6c
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 12, 2017, 12:10:57 am
Saw The Jay Giles band at the FOX theater in Detroit back in the 80s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gdvgjLvi6c

I saw them at the Fillmore East, the final weekend---but, alas, not the final show. Still, those guys
blew the place apart.

This, I believe, was their set on the Fillmore East's final night:

The J. Geils Band, 27 June 1971, Fillmore East (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfHYrzUWPCg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 12, 2017, 12:17:28 am
I saw them at the Fillmore East, the final weekend---but, alas, not the final show. Still, those guys
blew the place apart.

This, I believe, was their set on the Fillmore East's final night:

The J. Geils Band, 27 June 1971, Fillmore East (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfHYrzUWPCg)

Peter Wolf is the one who really became famous as the face of the J Giles Band.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on April 12, 2017, 12:33:51 am
(http://i.imgflip.com/lx4nd.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 12, 2017, 12:47:17 am
Peter Wolf is the one who really became famous as the face of the J Giles Band.

The J. Geils Band had a few trademarks---Wolf and his between-song schpritzing; Magic Dick's virtouoso
harmonica playing; J. Geils's tasteful guitar work (he may have been the most underrated guitarist of his time);
Stephen Jo Bladd's tanks-gone-bonkers soul-style drumming . . .
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 12, 2017, 12:48:12 am
(http://i.imgflip.com/lx4nd.jpg)

Depends on how you define "outliving." He hasn't done anything substantial since about 1972; maybe
a rare little gem now and then since. Emphasis on "maybe."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on April 12, 2017, 12:49:51 am
RIP the founding guitarist of the J. Geils Band . . .

Guitarist known as J. Geils found dead in Massachusetts home (http://www.wcvb.com/article/guitarist-known-as-j-geils-found-dead-in-massachusetts-home/9263211)

The J. Geils Band, Blow Your Face Out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bDlvQD3S3k)

He was 71.

RIP and thanks for the great music . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvM8WV2V998
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 12, 2017, 01:02:32 am
Depends on how you define "outliving." He hasn't done anything substantial since about 1972; maybe
a rare little gem now and then since. Emphasis on "maybe."

@EasyAce

I disagree. Surviving his lifestyle is a pretty damn substantial accomplishment.

Keef is going to outlive us all.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 12, 2017, 01:05:15 am
@EasyAce

I disagree. Surviving his lifestyle is a pretty damn substantial accomplishment.

Keef is going to outlive us all.

@sneakypete
I was talking about his music. ;)

(For the record, I wouldn't recommend anyone else try to survive his lifestyle.)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: uglybiker on April 12, 2017, 05:41:13 am
@EasyAce

I disagree. Surviving his lifestyle is a pretty damn substantial accomplishment.

Keef is going to outlive us all.

I always heard the rumor that he didn't survive.
His well-pickled body just never got the message.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 12, 2017, 05:58:07 am
RIP the founding guitarist of the J. Geils Band . . .

Guitarist known as J. Geils found dead in Massachusetts home (http://www.wcvb.com/article/guitarist-known-as-j-geils-found-dead-in-massachusetts-home/9263211)



He was 71.

RIP and thanks for the great music . . .

Little known fact is that John Giels had one of the foremost European auto repair shops in the world. He specialized in Ferrari....

https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/hsx/2006/10/The-House-that-Rock-Built/1352278.html

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 12, 2017, 11:01:33 am
Dorothy Mengering, mother and occasional guest of David Letterman's, dies at 95

Born Dorothy Hofert, she lived a fairly typical middle-class mid-20th-century life, working as a floral assistant and secretary in Indiana, where she and her husband Harry Letterman had three children. (Harry died in 1973; ten years later, she married Hans Mengering.) In 1986, by the time middle child David Letterman had risen to fame for his late-night talk show, Dorothy began making appearances on the program, especially during holidays; originally doing so by phone, when Letterman moved to CBS, she began appearing on camera as "Dave's Mom."

Playing the role as a no-nonsense but loving mother eager to shoot down anything too absurd, Mengering earned a large number of fans, which she repeatedly attributed not to her own performance skills, but simply to the way that it allowed people to witness the love between a mother and her son.

Mengering died April 11 in her longtime home in Indiana. She is survived by David and daughter Gretchen Letterman, a newspaper columnist.

Obituary from the Chicago Sun-Times (http://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment/david-lettermans-mom-dorothy-mengering-dies-at-95/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Mengering)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on April 12, 2017, 11:35:34 am
The J. Geils Band had a few trademarks---Wolf and his between-song schpritzing; Magic Dick's virtouoso
harmonica playing; J. Geils's tasteful guitar work (he may have been the most underrated guitarist of his time);
Stephen Jo Bladd's tanks-gone-bonkers soul-style drumming . . .

Freeze Frame is one of my all time favorite albums. RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 12, 2017, 11:37:43 am
Freeze Frame is one of my all time favorite albums. RIP.

@Freya, this isn't the place for it - but, how are you doing?  I was getting concerned.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on April 12, 2017, 11:47:47 am
@Freya, this isn't the place for it - but, how are you doing?  I was getting concerned.

Not good. I'll bring it up later. Having a bad problem with my meds. The stupid doctor in the rehab decided to play god and messed up a lot of my meds and while my hip is better I'm a complete and total mess

I'm going to have to see my GP to try to fix it but I may end up back in a regular hospital to undo the damage he did. @Sanguine
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 12, 2017, 12:24:59 pm
Not good. I'll bring it up later. Having a bad problem with my meds. The stupid doctor in the rehab decided to play god and messed up a lot of my meds and while my hip is better I'm a complete and total mess

I'm going to have to see my GP to try to fix it but I may end up back in a regular hospital to undo the damage he did. @Sanguine
That isn't good. Keeping you in my prayers. :0001: Get better!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 12, 2017, 01:02:46 pm
Not good. I'll bring it up later. Having a bad problem with my meds. The stupid doctor in the rehab decided to play god and messed up a lot of my meds and while my hip is better I'm a complete and total mess

I'm going to have to see my GP to try to fix it but I may end up back in a regular hospital to undo the damage he did. @Sanguine

Yes, prayers, Freya.  Keep us informed.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 12, 2017, 01:10:58 pm
Not good. I'll bring it up later. Having a bad problem with my meds. The stupid doctor in the rehab decided to play god and messed up a lot of my meds and while my hip is better I'm a complete and total mess

I'm going to have to see my GP to try to fix it but I may end up back in a regular hospital to undo the damage he did. @Sanguine

That's infuriating!  Hospitalists should not be allowed to rock a boat they have nothing to do with!   22222frying pan
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: ABX on April 12, 2017, 05:26:48 pm
Comedian Charlie Murphy Dead At 57 (Eddie Murphy's brother, he wrote some of Eddie's best work).

According to his manager, Charlie died at a hospital in New York City. He had been going through chemotherapy treatment.

Some of Murphy's film credits include Are We There Yet, The Boondocks, and Black Jesus. Most recently, Charlie toured with comedians including Cedric the Entertainer, Eddie Griffin, George Lopez, and D.L. Hughley.

http://comicbook.com/popculturenow/2017/04/12/charlie-murphy-dead-at-57-eddie-murphy-brother/?=twd
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 12, 2017, 06:00:24 pm
Charlie Murphy was pretty funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2278XhCy4Bs
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 13, 2017, 01:15:33 am
Tom Modrak, former NFL general manager and scout, dies at 74

Modrak spent roughly 20 years as a scout in the Pittsburgh Steelers organization, his hometown team. In 1998, he accepted the position of general manager for the Philadelphia Eagles, where over the next four seasons, he helped orchestrate the team's turnaround from bottom-dweller to contender; he was ousted by the coach he hired, Andy Reid, just as the team hit its stride.

He spent the next decade as assistant general manager for the Buffalo Bills. Unlike his time with the Eagles, Modrak had much less success in Buffalo, making a number of draft blunders that contributed to the team's inability to rebuild. Reports in Buffalo blamed his failures on an unwillingness to assert himself in the face of bad decisions by other members of the staff.

He spent his last years overseeing BLESTO, the scouting agency where he began his career. He was forced to retire in December 2016 from a rare neurological disease, which led to his death April 11.

Obituary from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2017/04/12/Tom-Modrak-pittsburgh-Steelers-scout-eagles-dies-blesto/stories/201704120153?pgpageversion=pgevoke)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Modrak)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on April 13, 2017, 08:25:56 pm
Pittsburgh Steelers Chairman Dan Rooney Dies at 84

PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – Steelers nation has lost a legend, as chairman and former U.S. Ambassador to Ireland Dan Rooney has died at the age of 84.

More here:

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/04/13/pittsburgh-steelers-dan-rooney-dies/

And here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rooney

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on April 14, 2017, 12:47:11 am
Looks like Death isn't much of an athletic supporter these days.

HEY! I heard Chuck Norris was supposed to die 5 years ago but Death doesn't have the guts to tell him.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 14, 2017, 01:29:56 am
Looks like Death isn't much of an athletic supporter these days.

HEY! I heard Chuck Norris was supposed to die 5 years ago but Death doesn't have the guts to tell him.
My grandson did a google search for Chuck Norris. It came back with "You don't find Chuck Norris, he finds you!"
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on April 14, 2017, 06:32:17 pm
Toby Smith, founding member of Jamiroquai, dead at 46

 Toby Smith, the keyboardist and a founding member of the band Jamiroquai died on Tuesday.

He was 46.

Smith had been fighting a "voracious" illness for a long time, according to the band's Facebook page, but had "shown signs of beating it."

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/toby-smith-founding-member-jamiroquai-dead-46-article-1.3055392
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 14, 2017, 06:52:59 pm
Toby Smith, founding member of Jamiroquai, dead at 46

 Toby Smith, the keyboardist and a founding member of the band Jamiroquai died on Tuesday.

He was 46.

Smith had been fighting a "voracious" illness for a long time, according to the band's Facebook page, but had "shown signs of beating it."

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/toby-smith-founding-member-jamiroquai-dead-46-article-1.3055392

All I know of Jamiroquai was this crazy video from years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et9b7LWfnxQ
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on April 15, 2017, 06:22:11 pm
World's oldest person Emma Morano dies at 117

Obituary (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39610937)

That's it. The very last person with a documented birth in the 19th Century has gone.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on April 15, 2017, 06:42:12 pm
Rest in peace, Mrs. Morano.

I've noticed that many people who live long lives have poor eating habits, according to the experts.  My grandmother ate all the "wrong" foods and lived to be 90.   This lady ate 3 eggs a day and little to no fruit or vegetables.   Maybe this means we shouldn't be all that stringent with our diets and live a little.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on April 15, 2017, 07:19:15 pm
Clifton James, Sheriff in James Bond Films, Dies at 96

Quote
Clifton James, a veteran actor who appeared as Sheriff J.W. Pepper in two James Bond films, died Saturday morning at age 96...

James most famous role came on film. He appeared in two James Bond films opposite Roger Moore: “Live and Let Die” (1973) and “The Man with the Golden Gun” (1974). He portrayed the crowing Louisiana sheriff, J.W. Pepper (pictured). James would play similar Southern lawman in numerous other roles during his career, including “Silver Streak” and “Superman II”

Among his other film credits included “Cool Hand Luke,” “Eight Men Out” and “The Bonfire of the Vanities.” ...
More (http://variety.com/2017/film/news/clifton-james-dead-sheriff-in-james-bond-films-dies-at-96-1202031445/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifton_James)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0416378/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on April 15, 2017, 07:32:40 pm
That's it. The very last person with a documented birth in the 19th Century has gone.

Three of my four grandparents were born in the 19th century, 1881, 1894 and 1896. They departed in that order, too.

--A cowboy, acrobat, oilman born to immigrants from Sweden, worked in Bill Cody's Wild West Show

--A woman that earned a MS in biology and taught university in the 1920s

--A WWI veteran that moved his parents, his wife and his daughters from the East to the West, just in time for the 1929 stock market crash--which knocked him down economically from white collar to blue collar.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on April 15, 2017, 07:51:17 pm
Robert W. Taylor, a pioneer of the modern computer, dies at 85

April 15, 2017
Esmeralda Bermudez
Los Angeles Times
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Robert W. Taylor, one of the most important figures in the creation of the modern computer and the internet, has died. He was 85.

According to his son Kurt Taylor, the scientist died Thursday at his home in the San Francisco Bay Area town of Woodside. He suffered from Parkinson's disease and other ailments.

Taylor's name was not known to the public, but it was a byword in computer science and networking, where he was a key innovator who transformed the world of technology.

Taylor — an outspoken, uncompromising visionary — was a Pentagon researcher in the 1960s when he launched Arpanet, which evolved into what we know today as the internet.

After leaving the Pentagon, he moved to Xerox's legendary Palo Alto Research Center, where he oversaw the engineering team responsible for such inventions as the personal computer, Ethernet and the visual computer display.

More: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/robert-w-taylor-a-pioneer-of-the-modern-computer-dies-at-85/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 15, 2017, 08:31:24 pm
Robert W. Taylor, a pioneer of the modern computer, dies at 85

April 15, 2017
Esmeralda Bermudez
Los Angeles Times
Posted with permission from Tribune Content Agency
Republish
Reprint

Robert W. Taylor, one of the most important figures in the creation of the modern computer and the internet, has died. He was 85.

According to his son Kurt Taylor, the scientist died Thursday at his home in the San Francisco Bay Area town of Woodside. He suffered from Parkinson's disease and other ailments.

Taylor's name was not known to the public, but it was a byword in computer science and networking, where he was a key innovator who transformed the world of technology.

Taylor — an outspoken, uncompromising visionary — was a Pentagon researcher in the 1960s when he launched Arpanet, which evolved into what we know today as the internet.

After leaving the Pentagon, he moved to Xerox's legendary Palo Alto Research Center, where he oversaw the engineering team responsible for such inventions as the personal computer, Ethernet and the visual computer display.

More: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/robert-w-taylor-a-pioneer-of-the-modern-computer-dies-at-85/

The fellow who really did invent the Internet.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on April 15, 2017, 10:59:00 pm
The fellow who really did invent the Internet.

(http://hips.htvapps.com/htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/images/gore-1487333519.jpg)

I call BS.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 17, 2017, 01:13:57 am
RIP to Luther Perkins's successor in Johnny Cash's Tennessee Three . . .

Quote
Johnny Cash Guitarist Bob Wootton Dead at 75 (http://www.rollingstone.com/country/news/johnny-cash-guitarist-bob-wootton-dead-at-75-w476679)

For 30 years, guitarist Robert "Bob" Wootton was an integral part of Johnny Cash's band, playing guitar in the Man
in Black's backing group, the Tennessee Three, and performing on the majority of Cash LPs made after 1968. Wootton,
who released music with other members of the Tennessee Three, also worked as a stuntman and driver for additional musical
acts, including Smashing Pumpkins. Wootton died April 9th in Gallatin, Tennessee. He was 75 . . .

A few weeks after Perkins' death, Wootton, unable to reach Cash by phone, traveled to Fayetteville, Arkansas, to see Cash
perform. A rain storm left then-Cash band members, guitarist Carl Perkins and bassist Marshall Grant, unable to make the
gig, so Wootton’s girlfriend asked Cash's wife, June Carter Cash, if Wootton could sit in the singer and his drummer, where
he wowed the entertainer with his guitar-playing ability. Cash then invited him to sit in at a show two days later and joined
the tour on what was initially a probationary basis. He served in Cash's band until 1997, when the iconic performer retired
from touring.

Wootton first appeared with Cash on records on Johnny Cash at San Quentin.

RIP.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 17, 2017, 01:04:00 pm
RIP to Luther Perkins's successor in Johnny Cash's Tennessee Three . . .

Wootton first appeared with Cash on records on Johnny Cash at San Quentin.

RIP.

@EasyAce

That was one hell of a album,and a brilliant decision at the same time. Who could resist hearing a album recorded at one of the most famous prisons in history back then? IMHO,that album did a lot to pull more people into country music while making Johnny Cash acceptable to a non-country audience.

It doesn't make any difference how good you are if you can't get anyone to listen to you.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: txradioguy on April 17, 2017, 05:45:15 pm
Just got this from FReeper LuvW:

Quote
My [our] FRiend, Arrowhead1952 [John Schwausch] has passed away from complications after a fall from a 25' ladder 2 1/2 years ago.
 God rest his soul. He fought hard and now rests with his Lord.
 He will have a military service this summer in Killeen, Texas


 :patriot:


Rest in Peace my friend.  Take a knee...I've got it from here.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 17, 2017, 06:00:17 pm
@EasyAce

That was one hell of a album,and a brilliant decision at the same time. Who could resist hearing a album recorded at one of the most famous prisons in history back then? IMHO,that album did a lot to pull more people into country music while making Johnny Cash acceptable to a non-country audience.

It doesn't make any difference how good you are if you can't get anyone to listen to you.

The San Quentin set came about in the wake of the live album that really put Johnny Cash back on the crossover
map: Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison; that pair of shows was performed before Luther Perkins's tragic death. I think
both Cash and Columbia Records hoped they could catch lightning twice and brother did they catch it. Johnny Cash
at San Quentin
also had the one thing the Folsom Prison album, successful as it was, didn't have: a crossover
hit single, "A Boy Named Sue."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 17, 2017, 06:01:40 pm
Just got this from FReeper LuvW:


 :patriot:


Rest in Peace my friend.  Take a knee...I've got it from here.
Darn. Agreed, RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 17, 2017, 06:01:40 pm
Just got this from FReeper LuvW:


 :patriot:


Rest in Peace my friend.  Take a knee...I've got it from here.

Oh, wow.  I corresponded with him before his fall and his family afterwards.  They lived near me and he was in a facility I was familiar with. 

Prayers.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: verga on April 18, 2017, 02:36:45 pm
Just got this from FReeper LuvW:


 :patriot:


Rest in Peace my friend.  Take a knee...I've got it from here.
praying
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on April 19, 2017, 11:19:25 am
Ex-New England Patriot Aaron Hernandez kills himself in jail, just days after being acquitted of two murders.
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Ex-NFL star Aaron Hernandez dead after hanging self in cell
 Associated Press via Yahoo (https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-nfl-star-aaron-hernandez-dead-hanging-self-105521642--spt.html)

MILFORD, Mass. (AP) — Former NFL star Aaron Hernandez, acquitted of a double murder just days ago, died after hanging himself in his prison cell Wednesday morning, Massachusetts prisons officials said.

Hernandez, 27, was found by guards in his cell at the Souza-Baranowski Correctional Center in Shirley just after 3 a.m., Department of Correction spokesman Christopher Fallon said in a statement.

The former New England Patriots tight end was pronounced dead at UMass Memorial-HealthAlliance Hospital in Leominster about an hour later.

Hernandez was in a single cell in a general population housing unit in the maximum security state prison. He hanged himself using a bed sheet that he attached to a cell window, Fallon said.

Hernandez tried to block the cell door from the inside by jamming the door with various items, Fallon said.

Hernandez was moved to tears on Friday after he was acquitted of the 2012 fatal shootings of Daniel de Abreu and Safiro Furtado in Boston.

But he was still serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole for his conviction in the 2013 shooting of Odin Lloyd, who was dating his fiancee's sister.

Massachusetts State Police remain on the scene investigating the death.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on April 19, 2017, 11:22:21 am
There is some closure.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: txradioguy on April 19, 2017, 11:37:15 am
Former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez was found hanged by a bed sheet in his jail cell early Wednesday, according to the Massachusetts Department of Corrections.

Hernandez, 27, was later pronounced dead at a local hospital, according to a statement released by the DOC.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2017/04/19/aaron-hernandez-dead-after-being-found-hanged-in-prison-cell/100638226/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: driftdiver on April 19, 2017, 12:05:37 pm
Didn't see that coming.  Guess the fall from being a star was too great
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: geronl on April 19, 2017, 12:24:39 pm
Didn't see that coming.  Guess the fall from being a star was too great

wasn't he fighting for his life in court just days ago?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: driftdiver on April 19, 2017, 12:37:00 pm
wasn't he fighting for his life in court just days ago?

And he won that case.  However he had another murder pending
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: geronl on April 19, 2017, 12:47:47 pm
And he won that case.  However he had another murder pending

he was found guilty of murdering his wife a while back, but he probably could have been out in a decade or so since Massataxes is pretty lax
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: driftdiver on April 19, 2017, 12:49:57 pm
he was found guilty of murdering his wife a while back, but he probably could have been out in a decade or so since Massataxes is pretty lax

He has so many murders I can't keep em straight.   Seems the world is a better and safer place without him,
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: DCPatriot on April 19, 2017, 12:51:24 pm
he was found guilty of murdering his wife a while back, but he probably could have been out in a decade or so since Massataxes is pretty lax

Your knowledge of Hernandez' cases is rivaled only by your understanding of politics.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Odin_Lloyd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Odin_Lloyd)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on April 19, 2017, 02:23:19 pm
It's too bad.  Hernandez had it all, or he could have.  But he lost his way and made bad decisions.  Choices do have consequences. 

Just a shame he took the easy way out.  Even in prison he could still have been redeemed.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on April 19, 2017, 03:20:11 pm
Aaron Hernandez exhibited the slightest change in his final days
Dan Wetzel  Yahoo Sports
Apr 19, 2017, 10:36 AM
Quote
... Other than spot appearances by his forever-loyal fiancée, Shayanna Jenkins-Hernandez, one visit from his 4-year-old daughter and occasional trips to court by Shay’s friends, he was all, all alone.

He talked about it. And tried to laugh about it. At least he had the Department of Corrections, he’d crack. At least the court officers would stand by him, he’d say with a smile. They’d never leave him. At least he had his attorneys, he’d joke. At the beginning and end of every day of court he’d hug them, kiss them, act like he was a long lost brother, not billable hours they’d booked the night before.

Gallows humor in the face of a gruesome reality – he was isolated and all but forgotten. A hint of him dreaming of the old days – even as he knew he was 27 and sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. And no matter all that fantastical talk about winning a retrial in the Odin Lloyd case and winning that, nothing was ever going to change. He killed Odin Lloyd in 2013, just as the jury said. The evidence was overwhelming on that one. Hernandez, for all his wickedness, was never dumb.

Aaron Hernandez was found hanging from a bed sheet at 3:05 am Wednesday inside the Souza Baranowski Correctional Center. A man who once lived the big life in a 7,100-square foot, three-car garage mansion, stuffed his few belongings up against the cell door to buy himself a couple extra seconds to die.

The suicide came just five days after a jury found him not guilty in the deaths of Abreu and Furtado. It was a legal vindication but not much more. Hernandez was there that night, riding shotgun with his buddy, Alexander Bradley, as they pulled up on a carload of Cape Verdean immigrants they’d briefly encountered earlier in the night. Someone opened fire, killing two, wounding one and forever changing everything.  ...
More  (https://sports.yahoo.com/news/aaron-hernandez-exhibited-slightest-change-final-days-143616551.html).
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on April 19, 2017, 03:26:14 pm
Some people, no matter what they have, just can't give up that thrill of the thug life. I've seen it from the small scale of people I grew up with, to the big scale like this guy. Never ends well.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod1 on April 19, 2017, 08:17:29 pm
Merged Aaron Hernandez thread into Obituaries as he is, in fact, kaput.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on April 19, 2017, 08:29:54 pm
Oh, give me a break.
Quote
It Could Be Murder   ... Lawyer Claims
TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/19/aaron-hernandez-murder-suicide-lawyer-jose-baez/)

Aaron Hernandez may not have died as the result of suicide ... it could be murder orchestrated within the prison walls -- so claims the lawyer who represented him.

We've learned attorney Jose Baez -- who just got a not guilty verdict for Aaron last week in the double murder case -- has launched an investigation on behalf of Hernandez' family and they are not buying the suicide story.

We're told Baez believes this could be a murder either by inmates or the folks who run the prison.

Baez says the family is "devastated" and does not believe Aaron was in a frame of mind to take his life.

Baez told TMZ Sports just last week Aaron was in a good place and optimistic the separate murder conviction would be overturned.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 19, 2017, 08:37:45 pm
Oh, give me a break.

Isn't Baez the attention seeker who represented Casey Anthony?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 19, 2017, 08:44:48 pm
Isn't Baez the attention seeker who represented Casey Anthony?

Yup!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Caylee_Anthony
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2017, 10:08:46 pm
Oh, give me a break.

@mountaineer

Typical sleezebag lawyer looking for "shut up and go away" money out of the threat of a bogus lawsuit.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2017, 10:11:00 pm
Yup!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Caylee_Anthony

@Sanguine  @Cyber Liberty

She's been living with him since the verdict.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on April 19, 2017, 10:45:21 pm
Oh, give me a break.

Is Baez a frequent guest of Alex Jones on his podcast?  Sounds like another conspiracy loon Jones would love.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 19, 2017, 10:45:52 pm
@Sanguine  @Cyber Liberty

She's been living with him since the verdict.

Really?  I think she must have been on the "Cray-cray" end of the hot/crazy spectrum.   Must be great in the sack...or somethin.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 19, 2017, 11:42:42 pm
Really?  I think she must have been on the "Cray-cray" end of the hot/crazy spectrum.   Must be great in the sack...or somethin.
Crazy is relative. I recall having a rule in my single days to never bed a woman substantially crazier than I was. A little bit was one thing, but substantially was another.
It all depends on where he lands on the spectrum.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 19, 2017, 11:52:29 pm
Crazy is relative. I recall having a rule in my single days to never bed a woman substantially crazier than I was. A little bit was one thing, but substantially was another.
It all depends on where he lands on the spectrum.

I had that rule.  First thing you have to do is place your own level of cray-cray, to make sure she's not more.  Once you do that, you're golden.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on April 19, 2017, 11:54:53 pm
Aaron Hernandez’s Net Worth as of 2017: $8.2 Million

Lawyer is ticked cause he can't tap that well now. Coulda racked up huge fees with useless motions, appeals, etc....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 20, 2017, 12:48:55 am
@Sanguine  @Cyber Liberty

She's been living with him since the verdict.

Pretty crazy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2017, 12:51:44 am
Pretty crazy.

I know.  **nononono*
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 20, 2017, 09:02:35 am
Really?  I think she must have been on the "Cray-cray" end of the hot/crazy spectrum.   Must be great in the sack...or somethin.

@Cyber Liberty

A "hit and get it" is one thing if she never finds out your name or where you live or work,but she ain't the one that is nuts if YOU let her move in with you.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 20, 2017, 09:17:57 am
Crazy is relative. I recall having a rule in my single days to never bed a woman substantially crazier than I was. A little bit was one thing, but substantially was another.


@Smokin Joe

I learned the hard way to not even let them know my name until I had a clear understanding of which side of the line she fell on.

As a general observation,it occurred to me that the ones that were extremely hot were almost universally nuttier than a fruitcake. High maintenance, high stress,and emotional landmines. They decide they are too good for you while you live with them,so when you tell them to pack up their crap and get caught up with gone,they then turn clingy and want to follow you around and call you up drunk at 3 AM and call you names.

My ex is on husband number 6 now,and I know he is fading into the distance because she has started following me around again and suggesting we are friends by wanting to talk about the good times we had. We are NOT friends. Or at least she is not MY friend. I may give her that impression because I can't afford to let lose of the grip I have on my anger,but I literally would not connect with her again if she were the last woman left living in the world.  Twice was one times too many and I ain't falling into that well and living that nightmare again.

Give me an average-looking woman any time,thank you very much.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: verga on April 20, 2017, 10:35:19 am
Pretty crazy.
Cledus T. Judd - I'm Going Ugly Early Tonight (Lyrics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc4NqA17CQk
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 20, 2017, 12:19:48 pm
@Smokin Joe

I learned the hard way to not even let them know my name until I had a clear understanding of which side of the line she fell on.

As a general observation,it occurred to me that the ones that were extremely hot were almost universally nuttier than a fruitcake. High maintenance, high stress,and emotional landmines. They decide they are too good for you while you live with them,so when you tell them to pack up their crap and get caught up with gone,they then turn clingy and want to follow you around and call you up drunk at 3 AM and call you names.

My ex is on husband number 6 now,and I know he is fading into the distance because she has started following me around again and suggesting we are friends by wanting to talk about the good times we had. We are NOT friends. Or at least she is not MY friend. I may give her that impression because I can't afford to let lose of the grip I have on my anger,but I literally would not connect with her again if she were the last woman left living in the world.  Twice was one times too many and I ain't falling into that well and living that nightmare again.

Give me an average-looking woman any time,thank you very much.
Well, Pete, there is a reason the words "young" and "foolish" are often used together.  I know you aren't exactly a fan of religion, but most churches have a point (this said, not in the glandular tumescence of puberty, but from a much older perspective, retrospective, actually) when they want a couple to hold off until they know one another a mite better.
One way or another, I think a lot of us have been places we don't want to go back to.
An advantage of being older and wiser (wisdom being key, no matter what age you are) is that you can see beyond the moment and extrapolate the future, anticipating the results of taking a path and deciding whether you want to go there.
I'm a fan of the 'Ivory Girl', the not glamorous and carefully applied persona, but the scrubbed up clean type with basic good looks which light up from within with a genuine smile. Personality will take a '5' or '6' right to an '8' or '9' because the inner beauty shines through.
That superficial stuff is like the "...treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.  But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.  For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also" (Matt 6:19-21)
When I got older and hopefully wiser, I realized that was an allegory for relationships, too.
What's in your heart and hers matters more than the trimmings. Adversity can be overcome, poverty survived and conquered, other problems dealt with, provided the intangible things are in the right place, and you are both of the right mind.
Pretty fades with time, beauty matures and increases. Yeah, I have an ex I would not go back to. I have heard the siren's song of sanitized retrospective as well. No thanks. I don't blame you for not wanting to go there again. I learned the hard way, and could have saved myself a lot of grief if I had just listened.
It does seem the 'plain Janes' tend to have their stuff together on a more consistent basis, but maybe that's because they know that looks alone aren't going to get them by.
Then, too, it's got to be a head twister knowing the only thing you have to bring to the table is looks and those are fading more each day, trying to compete with every person out there who is a little younger or prettier and constantly being insecure because of that. That's a version of misery I'm glad I don't suffer. It's just as bad on the other side (give Dr. Hook, When you're in love with a beautiful woman) a listen, if you don't remember the song.

Instead, a lady who brings intelligence, personality, and skills to the table, who knows she is more than just an ornamental shell, who has substance, will be far better grounded, more secure, and a much better helpmate.
None of us is perfect, but the odds sure get better when you start with more.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on April 20, 2017, 12:35:21 pm
@Smokin Joe

I learned the hard way to not even let them know my name until I had a clear understanding of which side of the line she fell on.

As a general observation,it occurred to me that the ones that were extremely hot were almost universally nuttier than a fruitcake. High maintenance, high stress,and emotional landmines. They decide they are too good for you while you live with them,so when you tell them to pack up their crap and get caught up with gone,they then turn clingy and want to follow you around and call you up drunk at 3 AM and call you names.

My ex is on husband number 6 now,and I know he is fading into the distance because she has started following me around again and suggesting we are friends by wanting to talk about the good times we had. We are NOT friends. Or at least she is not MY friend. I may give her that impression because I can't afford to let lose of the grip I have on my anger,but I literally would not connect with her again if she were the last woman left living in the world.  Twice was one times too many and I ain't falling into that well and living that nightmare again.

Give me an average-looking woman any time,thank you very much.

I know a couple (same HS class) who are now working on marriage #6.   I'll never figure that out.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2017, 12:58:30 pm
@Smokin Joe

I learned the hard way to not even let them know my name until I had a clear understanding of which side of the line she fell on.

As a general observation,it occurred to me that the ones that were extremely hot were almost universally nuttier than a fruitcake. High maintenance, high stress,and emotional landmines. They decide they are too good for you while you live with them,so when you tell them to pack up their crap and get caught up with gone,they then turn clingy and want to follow you around and call you up drunk at 3 AM and call you names.

My ex is on husband number 6 now,and I know he is fading into the distance because she has started following me around again and suggesting we are friends by wanting to talk about the good times we had. We are NOT friends. Or at least she is not MY friend. I may give her that impression because I can't afford to let lose of the grip I have on my anger,but I literally would not connect with her again if she were the last woman left living in the world.  Twice was one times too many and I ain't falling into that well and living that nightmare again.

Give me an average-looking woman any time,thank you very much.

Sage advice.  I have a Bookface friend who made the mistake of allowing his hot cray-cray ex girlfriend back into his life, and because of her raging alcoholism, it was a living Hell for six months until he got rid of her again.  He had had his own issues with addiction prior to that, but with God's help he held steady.  Last time he went off it cost the life of his beloved kitty, and he's still torn up with guilt about that.  Not saying who he is, but many people here know him and would be surprised loss of a pet would have that effect on him.

Even bitter experience with a stalker doesn't protect us from making stupid decisions.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 20, 2017, 01:18:29 pm
I know a couple (same HS class) who are now working on marriage #6.   I'll never figure that out.

@Bigun

Immaturity that leads to the inability to face reality and admit to any personal blame. There is no such thing as a personal relationship where all the fault was on one side. To grow you have to have the ability to admit your own mistakes so you can learn from them and not make them in the future.

 Some people just never grow up and continue to live in a fantasy world where they never have to admit to fault.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 20, 2017, 01:21:16 pm

Even bitter experience with a stalker doesn't protect us from making stupid decisions.

@Cyber Liberty

The sad,and ironic truth,is that stupid decisions in the past is what has made us who we are today.

Which,I guess,by definition must mean I am pretty damn complete by now.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2017, 01:25:03 pm
@Cyber Liberty

The sad,and ironic truth,is that stupid decisions in the past is what has made us who we are today.

Which,I guess,by definition must mean I am pretty damn complete by now.

We stand on the shoulders of great men, Pete. :smokin:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 20, 2017, 01:38:29 pm
@Cyber Liberty

The sad,and ironic truth,is that stupid decisions in the past is what has made us who we are today.

Which,I guess,by definition must mean I am pretty damn complete by now.
If I'd known then what I know now....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: uglybiker on April 20, 2017, 02:27:43 pm
@Cyber Liberty

The sad,and ironic truth,is that stupid decisions in the past is what has made us who we are today.

Which,I guess,by definition must mean I am pretty damn complete by now.

To become old and wise, one must first be young and stupid.

I'm at least getting the hang of the getting older part..........
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on April 20, 2017, 02:32:11 pm
If I'd known then what I know now....

I wish that I knew what I know now
When I was younger.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 20, 2017, 02:33:21 pm
I wish that I knew what I know now
When I was younger.

We were all told.  But, we were bulletproof and knew everything.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on April 20, 2017, 02:36:09 pm
We were all told.  But, we were bulletproof and knew everything.

I try to keep that in mind when looking around me today.

Ronnie Lane's lyrics sum it up pretty well.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 20, 2017, 03:04:39 pm
I wish that I knew what I know now
When I was younger.

@sketer

You did. We all did. We just ignored it because we were young and foolish enough to think it didn't apply  to US. It was for other people who weren't as nice,as smart,and as sincere as we were. WE were "Special"and the laws of reality did not apply to US.

I wish I could claim the youthful innocence of most of you,but the truth is I grew up unloved and very cynical. I was raised by people who never bothered to adopt me,and their relatives even refused to allow their children to play with me when I was 4 and 5 years old. By the time I was 10,"cousins" were sidling up next to me and subtly whispering in my ear "You know you don't belong in this family,right?" By the time I was 13 I was noticing how much nicer and helpful my "mother and father" were to my older "brother" who was related. When he tured 16,my "father" co-signed for him to buy almost new Mercury. By the time I was 16,my "father" had sold 3 cars I had bought with my own money earned working in the summer as a deckhand on a shrimp boat,a mechanics helper in a garage,and working at a gas station doing minor repairs and oil/tire changes. When I asked where my cars were,he told he had sold them. When I asked how what right he had to sell MY cars that I had paid for myself out of money I had earned working,he said "My house,my yard,my cars,my money."

When I was a pre-teen and he would be fixing a car or something in the house,I would try to get him to teach me what he was doing and why it needed to be done,and the kindest thing he ever said to me was "Go away. You are too stupid to learn". Which was pretty ironic when you consider that I had taught myself to read and write before I started elementary school,I had a library card by the time I was 8,and I was the one they had to get to read letters and sales contracts for them.

I was also told by the time I was 8 that once I turned 18 I was out of the house and on my own because they had nothing for me. Which may have been a little brutal sounding,but it was the truth and a kindness in disguise. The fact is they HAD nothing. My older brother had diabetes and my mother had health problems,and my father worked and lived from week to week,just to make a living. When I was about 5 or 6 I watched him get on his knees in the bathtub one Sunday morning with a nutpick and a pair of pliers and pull 3 of his own teeth because he couldn't afford a dentist and he couldn't afford to miss a day's work even if he had been able to afford a dentist. He got up Monday morning and went to work,too. He worked until he was 62,and in all that time he only missed work 3 days. All 3 were when he was in his late 50's and fell off a roof while shingling it.

Anyhow,I grew up understanding reality from the time I was a small child,so I had and have no excuse for ignoring reality and falling for that crap. It caught me totally by surprise,and I have no excuses.

Some things are more powerful than reason.

Sadly,some people never seem to learn,and keep clinging to those illusions until the go into the ground.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on April 20, 2017, 03:10:03 pm
@Smokin Joe

My ex is on husband number 6 now,and I know he is fading into the distance because she has started following me around again and suggesting we are friends by wanting to talk about the good times we had. We are NOT friends. Or at least she is not MY friend. I may give her that impression because I can't afford to let lose of the grip I have on my anger,but I literally would not connect with her again if she were the last woman left living in the world.  Twice was one times too many and I ain't falling into that well and living that nightmare again.

Give me an average-looking woman any time,thank you very much.

My wife's older sister has been married and divorced 5 times. She is beautiful, and she WAS crazy for a long time.

Then she was diagnosed with bipolar after number 5, takes meds, and is a much calmer, more pleasant person to be related to.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 20, 2017, 03:24:57 pm


Then she was diagnosed with bipolar after number 5, takes meds, and is a much calmer, more pleasant person to be related to.

@truth_seeker

My ex doesn't have that excuse. I've see her IQ score. She just isn't very bright. I didn't care because she had such a nice personality nothing else mattered.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 20, 2017, 03:28:26 pm
@sketer

You did. We all did. We just ignored it because we were young and foolish enough to think it didn't apply  to US. It was for other people who weren't as nice,as smart,and as sincere as we were. WE were "Special"and the laws of reality did not apply to US.

I wish I could claim the youthful innocence of most of you,but the truth is I grew up unloved and very cynical. I was raised by people who never bothered to adopt me,and their relatives even refused to allow their children to play with me when I was 4 and 5 years old. By the time I was 10,"cousins" were sidling up next to me and subtly whispering in my ear "You know you don't belong in this family,right?" By the time I was 13 I was noticing how much nicer and helpful my "mother and father" were to my older "brother" who was related. When he tured 16,my "father" co-signed for him to buy almost new Mercury. By the time I was 16,my "father" had sold 3 cars I had bought with my own money earned working in the summer as a deckhand on a shrimp boat,a mechanics helper in a garage,and working at a gas station doing minor repairs and oil/tire changes. When I asked where my cars were,he told he had sold them. When I asked how what right he had to sell MY cars that I had paid for myself out of money I had earned working,he said "My house,my yard,my cars,my money."

When I was a pre-teen and he would be fixing a car or something in the house,I would try to get him to teach me what he was doing and why it needed to be done,and the kindest thing he ever said to me was "Go away. You are too stupid to learn". Which was pretty ironic when you consider that I had taught myself to read and write before I started elementary school,I had a library card by the time I was 8,and I was the one they had to get to read letters and sales contracts for them.

I was also told by the time I was 8 that once I turned 18 I was out of the house and on my own because they had nothing for me. Which may have been a little brutal sounding,but it was the truth and a kindness in disguise. The fact is they HAD nothing. My older brother had diabetes and my mother had health problems,and my father worked and lived from week to week,just to make a living. When I was about 5 or 6 I watched him get on his knees in the bathtub one Sunday morning with a nutpick and a pair of pliers and pull 3 of his own teeth because he couldn't afford a dentist and he couldn't afford to miss a day's work even if he had been able to afford a dentist. He got up Monday morning and went to work,too. He worked until he was 62,and in all that time he only missed work 3 days. All 3 were when he was in his late 50's and fell off a roof while shingling it.

Anyhow,I grew up understanding reality from the time I was a small child,so I had and have no excuse for ignoring reality and falling for that crap. It caught me totally by surprise,and I have no excuses.

Some things are more powerful than reason.

Sadly,some people never seem to learn,and keep clinging to those illusions until the go into the ground.

Pete, that makes my heart hurt.  God bless you.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on April 20, 2017, 05:47:51 pm
@sketer

You did. We all did. We just ignored it because we were young and foolish enough to think it didn't apply  to US. It was for other people who weren't as nice,as smart,and as sincere as we were. WE were "Special"and the laws of reality did not apply to US.

I wish I could claim the youthful innocence of most of you,but the truth is I grew up unloved and very cynical. I was raised by people who never bothered to adopt me,and their relatives even refused to allow their children to play with me when I was 4 and 5 years old. By the time I was 10,"cousins" were sidling up next to me and subtly whispering in my ear "You know you don't belong in this family,right?" By the time I was 13 I was noticing how much nicer and helpful my "mother and father" were to my older "brother" who was related. When he tured 16,my "father" co-signed for him to buy almost new Mercury. By the time I was 16,my "father" had sold 3 cars I had bought with my own money earned working in the summer as a deckhand on a shrimp boat,a mechanics helper in a garage,and working at a gas station doing minor repairs and oil/tire changes. When I asked where my cars were,he told he had sold them. When I asked how what right he had to sell MY cars that I had paid for myself out of money I had earned working,he said "My house,my yard,my cars,my money."

When I was a pre-teen and he would be fixing a car or something in the house,I would try to get him to teach me what he was doing and why it needed to be done,and the kindest thing he ever said to me was "Go away. You are too stupid to learn". Which was pretty ironic when you consider that I had taught myself to read and write before I started elementary school,I had a library card by the time I was 8,and I was the one they had to get to read letters and sales contracts for them.

I was also told by the time I was 8 that once I turned 18 I was out of the house and on my own because they had nothing for me. Which may have been a little brutal sounding,but it was the truth and a kindness in disguise. The fact is they HAD nothing. My older brother had diabetes and my mother had health problems,and my father worked and lived from week to week,just to make a living. When I was about 5 or 6 I watched him get on his knees in the bathtub one Sunday morning with a nutpick and a pair of pliers and pull 3 of his own teeth because he couldn't afford a dentist and he couldn't afford to miss a day's work even if he had been able to afford a dentist. He got up Monday morning and went to work,too. He worked until he was 62,and in all that time he only missed work 3 days. All 3 were when he was in his late 50's and fell off a roof while shingling it.

Anyhow,I grew up understanding reality from the time I was a small child,so I had and have no excuse for ignoring reality and falling for that crap. It caught me totally by surprise,and I have no excuses.

Some things are more powerful than reason.

Sadly,some people never seem to learn,and keep clinging to those illusions until the go into the ground.

Making an assumption here, but I can only imagine what you must think when you hear the phrase 'white privilege'.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2017, 05:54:47 pm
Pete, that makes my heart hurt.  God bless you.

Makes more than just my head hurt, @Sanguine.   **nononono*

@sneakypete, I would have never guessed it.  You're a good and tough fellow, I knew that, but that childhood sucks.  I'll remember this every time I think I got a short stick.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Restored on April 20, 2017, 07:14:02 pm
My college girlfriend recently married her high school sweetheart. I dated her for 2 years after he dumped her. Whether he knows he is her 4th husband is anyone's guess.

Have they posted an obit for Steve "Steven" Stephens, the Facebook killer?

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2017, 07:23:33 pm
My college girlfriend recently married her high school sweetheart. I dated her for 2 years after he dumped her. Whether he knows he is her 4th husband is anyone's guess.

Have they posted an obit for Steve "Steven" Stephens, the Facebook killer?

POS doesn't deserve one. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 20, 2017, 10:23:14 pm
Makes more than just my head hurt, @Sanguine.   **nononono*

@sneakypete, I would have never guessed it.  You're a good and tough fellow, I knew that, but that childhood sucks.  I'll remember this every time I think I got a short stick.

@Cyber Liberty

I don't want anyone to think I am ungrateful for their concern,because I am not and I do appreciate it,but I don't need or deserve any sympathy. I was not abused or neglected,and one advantage I had over most kids was I knew I would be on my own when I turned 18,so I had plenty of time to prepare for it.

There are many,MANY neglected and abused children who had life a LOT tougher than I did who deserve a lot more consideration than I do.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 20, 2017, 10:24:51 pm
POS doesn't deserve one.

@Cyber Liberty

Depends on how you see it,a celebration of his life,or a celebration of his death.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 20, 2017, 10:30:58 pm
Making an assumption here, but I can only imagine what you must think when you hear the phrase 'white privilege'.

@skeeter

I literally laugh out loud,even though I have mixed blood. I am 1/4 Tuscarora Indian. Other than my black eyes,I easily pass for white,though. And  no,there is ABSOLUTELY NO danger of my ever putting in for professional vic-tum Indian status,either. So people did bad stuff to your ancestors 200 years ago. BGD! Get over it,losers!

And there are and were many,MANY other white children who had it a hell of a lot worse than me. Especially the ones born a generation or more earlier.

In FACT,my mother and father had it a HELL of a lot worse. My father had 5 brothers and sisters younger than him,and he had to quit school in the 3rd grade after HIS father died and go to work as an apprentice at a local shipyard to help support his family and send his younger brothers and sisters to school. He basically went though life with a 2nd grade education.

My mother arguably had it worse. Both her parents died in the flue epidemic of 1918,leaving her and her 5 year old sister alone in the world. The local "shadow government"   (The local KKK) stepped in and found a place for them to live with a crippled Civil War veteran. He only had one leg and was old and needed help,and those two little girls had no where to live and no money,so they needed help,too. The Klan figured they could help each other,so they sent the girls to live with him to cook,sew,clean house,and keep him company.

My mother told me it wasn't long before the old man started "being mean to them",so 1 Friday night they showed up out in the yard on horseback with torches,and called the old man out into the yard and read the law to him. She said the leader told him something like "We understand you have not been sending those girls to school,and that you haven't been buying groceries suitable for two small children,and that you have been spending your pension on whisky and gambling instead. That ends NOW! If we ever hear of this happening again we will come back and tie you to that tree in the yard and beat you half to death with horse whips.",and left.

My  mother said the only man treated them just fine after that,but he died when she was 13,so she married a WW-1 Vet in his 30's in order to have a place for her and her sister to live. He got gassed during WW-1 and it turned him into a mean drunk,so she divorced him when she was older and able to be independent and took his daughter from a previous marriage with her. Actually went to court and got legal custody. I actually met and knew this man when I was a child. We would sometimes visit him.

Anyhow,she and my father got married sometime in the late 30's and remained married until she died in 1980.

And what today's PC history books are NOT telling people is lives like that were as common for white children prior to the 1950's as they were black children or any other children. Nobody GAVE them a damn thing but a hard time. What they got,they got by going out and working for it.

Nobody "GAVE" the white man a single damn thing but a attitude. He/we got to where he is by working hard and fighting for it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on April 20, 2017, 10:46:46 pm
@skeeter

I literally laugh out loud,even though I have mixed blood. I am 1/4 Tuscarora Indian. Other than my black eyes,I easily pass for white,though. And  no,there is ABSOLUTELY NO danger of my ever putting in for professional vic-tum Indian status,either. So people did bad stuff to your ancestors 200 years ago. BGD! Get over it,losers!

And there are and were many,MANY other white children who had it a hell of a lot worse than me. Especially the ones born a generation or more earlier. Nobody "GAVE" the white man a single damn thing but a attitude. He/we got to where he is by working hard and fighting for it.
Talked on Saturday with a favorite cousin-in-law. He is 1/2 California Hispanic son of career Air Force father-his name is Fernandez, and 1/2 Filipino son of a military wife.

Conservative and Catholic, he and I hold good political discussions.

During my youth race was less of a topic.  I grew up around a lot of Hispanic kids. Sports, classroom, town etc. Sure there were differences. But when we talk these days we share and enjoy our commonly held experiences.

My father was out of the Marine Corps, with severe Okinawa wound after 45 days combat, before his 20th birthday--having served over two years, and the war ended.

He always told me to prepare to leave home asap. I did at 18, while struggling to do college and life.

As soon as he saw me as self-sufficient (father, husband), he became my great friend.

But to him, it was never too early to become an adult male. His father was on his own from age 14, leaving the Dakota Territory to head to Wyoming and Montana.

Far too much work to do feeding and sheltering for idleness. Study seriously, or work. The only two alternatives. Period.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 20, 2017, 11:00:14 pm



But to him, it was never too early to become an adult male. His father was on his own from age 14, leaving the Dakota Territory to head to Wyoming and Montana.

Far too much work to do feeding and sheltering for idleness. Study seriously, or work. The only two alternatives. Period.

@truth_seeker

Amen! It was that way for me when I went to work as a deckhand on a shrimp boat the summer I was 13. I worked a man's job,got paid a man's share of the catch,and was treated like a man while ashore. If somebody gave you some lip,you knocked him on his ass to send a message,or you got used to living with having to take a lot of crap. Then again,some of the sons of the shrimpers and fishermen got afterschool jobs working in the packing house during the week,and 20 hours on Sat and Sun. You had to be careful grabbing a teen age boy that was used to spending all day tossing around 130 lb fishboxes. You might not like what you grab as much as you thought you were. Like I said,if you worked like a man you were paid and treated like a man,regardless of how old you were.

That's the kind of thing that makes you grow up self-confident and independent,and IMHO,something MUCH needed by most of today's "youts".
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on April 20, 2017, 11:09:16 pm
@truth_seeker

Amen! It was that way for me when I went to work as a deckhand on a shrimp boat the summer I was 13. I worked a man's job,got paid a man's share of the catch,and was treated like a man while ashore. If somebody gave you some lip,you knocked him on his ass to send a message,or you got used to living with having to take a lot of crap. Then again,some of the sons of the shrimpers and fishermen got afterschool jobs working in the packing house during the week,and 20 hours on Sat and Sun. You had to be careful grabbing a teen age boy that was used to spending all day tossing around 130 lb fishboxes. You might not like what you grab as much as you thought you were. Like I said,if you worked like a man you were paid and treated like a man,regardless of how old you were.

That's the kind of thing that makes you grow up self-confident and independent,and IMHO,something MUCH needed by most of today's "youts".
I got married while still 19 and was working on a trucking dock, unloading local trucks. My father was consistent. My next brother went straight from high school to the northern Sierras working as an apprentice carpenter when he was still 17.

Part of being a good father then, was making the sons tough enough to withstand the work of supporting their families.

Too many sissies, weaklings and crybabies these days.
 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on April 20, 2017, 11:16:21 pm
I got married while still 19 and was working on a trucking dock, unloading local trucks. My father was consistent. My next brother went straight from high school to the northern Sierras working as an apprentice carpenter when he was still 17.

Part of being a good father then, was making the sons tough enough to withstand the work of supporting their families.

Too many sissies, weaklings and crybabies these days.

Amen!!!  It is extremely important to instill a "work ethic" in our children; something that seems to be missing.  Lots of kids these days grow up feeling that they are owed a wage just for showing up to work and they seem to always have an excuse for being late!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 21, 2017, 12:06:38 am
Amen!!!  It is extremely important to instill a "work ethic" in our children; something that seems to be missing.  Lots of kids these days grow up feeling that they are owed a wage just for showing up to work and they seem to always have an excuse for being late!
I don't think they understand the importance of being on time. One of my 'odd jobs' was while I was waiting for an oil company to pick up a rig, and it started out as a week of temporary work in an Oilfield supply warehouse. When I came in the door, (they saw me coming) I was handed the first of many stacks of inventory cards and basically told to 'have at'. Well, it was a grand opportunity to learn the stock, something new, what was where, etc., so I did. I do my best at whatever I do, or I'm not satisfied. I set my standards higher than most bosses.

One of my co-workers was a bit OCD, which was great, because that made stuff a lot easier to find, and I finished up inside of the week.

The rig was slow getting put together because of the weather, and they kept me on, thrilled that I was always 5-10 minutes early. In fact, the boss (the owner's son), told me he was thinking about getting rid of the OCDish guy because he was always five to ten minutes late (the boss was out the door at 5 and didn't notice the guy working later). I knew that would be a mistake, and informed him that the guy was a great hand except for the time thing, and he even worked late to make up for it, staving off the sacking, and said I'd talk to him about it.
So, I told the guy (who had been griping about not getting a raise) just be here on time, whatever it takes, change your clocks, set your alarm early, whatever but be here 5 minutes early every day and make it a habit. If that gripe isn't in the way, they'll see what a hand you are. He did. I was there three months before the oil company got the rig up and running, and he had the raise when I'd been there for 6 weeks, well before I left on very good terms.
Sometimes punctuality is all it takes, one way or the other.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 21, 2017, 12:19:13 am
Amen!!!  It is extremely important to instill a "work ethic" in our children; something that seems to be missing.  Lots of kids these days grow up feeling that they are owed a wage just for showing up to work and they seem to always have an excuse for being late!

@libertybele

The thing that gives ME instant brain-freeze these days are all the "under 25" employees at businesses where I go,stopping what they are doing to answer their cell phones or view a text.

Right up to the time I retired the second time you got a non-emergency phone call at work you would either be fired or be given a week off without pay,and young workers today go ballistic if told they can't receive and send texts or phone calls while on the clock. My local friend with the garage had a new mechanic walk off the job because he was told he was there to work,not receive and send texts all day.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 21, 2017, 12:23:26 am

Sometimes punctuality is all it takes, one way or the other.

@Smokin Joe

If you ain't there on time,the parade doesn't get started.

I enlisted in the army for airborne unassigned on my 17th birthday,and IIRC,the very first thing pounded into my head was to "be where you are supposed to be on time,wearing the proper uniform,and equipped for the task assigned.",and they weren't playing. Either everybody is where they are supposed to be when they are supposed to be and equipped as they are supposed to be,or lives WILL be lost. Maybe even yours.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 21, 2017, 12:43:02 am
@Smokin Joe

If you ain't there on time,the parade doesn't get started.

I enlisted in the army for airborne unassigned on my 17th birthday,and IIRC,the very first thing pounded into my head was to "be where you are supposed to be on time,wearing the proper uniform,and equipped for the task assigned.",and they weren't playing. Either everybody is where they are supposed to be when they are supposed to be and equipped as they are supposed to be,or lives WILL be lost. Maybe even yours.
When I calculated out the per minute cost of rig time, onshore, it was roughly $70-$100/minute, depending on what service companies were on location.  I'd have office geologists on one side debating and company hands on the other side champing at the bit. Be there or don't bother coming back. I remember being told when I was just a ginsel, "The only excuse for being late is a death in the family--your own."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 21, 2017, 01:19:44 am
Cuba Gooding Sr., 'Everybody Plays the Fool' Singer & Dad to Oscar-Winning Actor, Dies at 72: Report (https://www.yahoo.com/music/cuba-gooding-sr-everybody-plays-fool-singer-dad-234825398.html)

The Main Ingredient, "Everybody Plays the Fool" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPeHHpXOOds)

The Main Ingredient, "Just Don't Want to Be Lonely" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xMMZfLTkXA)

RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 21, 2017, 01:30:28 am
Yes, RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on April 22, 2017, 11:10:45 pm
Quote
Cyclist Michele Scarponi dies after training accident
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Cyclist Michele Scarponi has passed away after a training accident near his home. Tim de Waele/Corbis via Getty Images
    Associated Press

MILAN -- Michele Scarponi, who won the Giro d'Italia in 2011, died after a collision with a van while training on Saturday. He was 37.

Scarponi was training in Italy near his home of Filottrano, near Ancona, when he was hit by a van at a crossroad, Team Astana said.

According to Italian media reports, the Astana cyclist died on the spot and was unable to be revived by emergency services which arrived promptly.

Team Astana called it "a tragedy too big to be written" in a statement.

"We left a great champion and a special guy, always smiling in every situation, he was a real mile stone and a landmark for everyone in the Astana Pro Team," it added.

Continued: http://www.espn.com/cycling/story/_/id/19216253/cyclist-michele-scarponi-dies-training-accident

RIP,

RIP to Cuba Gooding Sr. also.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on April 22, 2017, 11:38:12 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Holdsworth

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Allan Holdsworth (6 August 1946 – 15 April 2017)[1] was a British guitarist and composer. He released twelve studio albums as a solo artist and played a variety of musical styles spanning a period of more than four decades, but is best known for his work in jazz fusion.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/fans-pay-for-guitar-legend-allan-holdsworths-funeral-and-then-some/ar-BBA8yfV?OCID=ansmsnnews11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em3IShAvZX4
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 23, 2017, 01:12:49 am
Happy Days star Erin Moran dead at 56.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on April 23, 2017, 01:16:29 am
Happy Days star Erin Moran dead at 56.
One of those child stars who seemed to have a hard time being an adult. Sad.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mystery-ak on April 23, 2017, 01:58:55 am
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/happy-days-star-erin-moran-dead-at-age-56/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ErinMoranDead


BREAKING NEWS
‘Happy Days’ Star Erin Moran Dead At Age 56
Inside the heartbreaking details.
By Radar Staff
Posted on Apr 22, 2017 @ 21:41PM

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Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 23, 2017, 02:01:06 am
Happy Days star Erin Moran dead at 56.
Erin Moran, TV's Joanie Cunningham, dies at 56

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Moran first achieved fame as a child actress at the age of 6. In 1974, at the age of 14, she was cast in her signature role, that of Joanie Cunningham, in the hit TV show Happy Days. When she reached adulthood, her character was spun off to the ill-fated Joanie Loves Chachi.

Moran fell out of the entertainment industry after Happy Days ended its run, being relegated mostly to bit roles and, in the 2000s, reality TV guest appearances. She was part of a lawsuit against CBS over Happy Days royalties that netted her $65,000 as her share of the settlement.

She had fallen on hard times near the end of her life, living in a trailer park in Indiana, where she was found unresponsive.

Death notice from TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/22/happy-days-star-erin-moran-dead/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Moran)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 23, 2017, 02:02:25 am
The scenario sounds all too familiar. I would not be the least bit surprised if it turned out to be heroin.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on April 23, 2017, 02:53:31 am
The scenario sounds all too familiar. I would not be the least bit surprised if it turned out to be heroin.

Very sad...living in a trailer park after stardom.  As for the heroin, unfortunately, you're probably correct.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on April 23, 2017, 06:31:47 am
I heard she had fallen on some hard times, I remember reading she was siupposed to have a cameo on "Arrested Development 4" but it fell through.

56 is too young. RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on April 23, 2017, 06:36:44 am
The scenario sounds all too familiar. I would not be the least bit surprised if it turned out to be heroin.

A very talented cheftestant from "Hell's KItchen 16" ODed two days ago in Philly. Not releasing which drug caused the OD, but it made all the tabloids. He was 36.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on April 23, 2017, 04:23:39 pm
A very talented cheftestant from "Hell's KItchen 16" ODed two days ago in Philly. Not releasing which drug caused the OD, but it made all the tabloids. He was 36.

Addiction/overdose is becoming a very disturbing trend and its just not from street drugs but prescription drugs as well.  Something needs to be done.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 23, 2017, 04:58:10 pm
Addiction/overdose is becoming a very disturbing trend and its just not from street drugs but prescription drugs as well.  Something needs to be done.
It's a symptom. The disease is more spiritual than physical. You would think, after the sixties and seventies, people would have learned that Heroin was bad sh*t and avoid it. But it's a new generation, busy reinventing the wheel and making those same mistakes, often at the behest of the hippies who are seeking relevancy even now.
 

Funny how the Democrats of today, the Liberals and Communists who pushed the same sh*t in the sixties now have the same 'social problems' from back then, after dumping enough space budget to establish colonies on the Moon and Mars on the "problems right here at home".

By their fruits shall ye know them.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 23, 2017, 05:10:02 pm
The scenario sounds all too familiar. I would not be the least bit surprised if it turned out to be heroin.

Joanie Loves Smack
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 23, 2017, 05:28:52 pm
Addiction/overdose is becoming a very disturbing trend and its just not from street drugs but prescription drugs as well.  Something needs to be done.

The first thing the government will do, to that end, will be to go for the low-hanging fruit:  People who obtain Opioids legally.  They're easiest because presumably the DEA can simply punish Drs. who write the prescriptions and the drugs will stop flowing.

There's just the little matter of the fact these are the people who will suffer the most, but that's OK, it's government.  It's like gun control always taking guns from the most innocent first.  It's OK as long as bureaucrats feel good doing it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on April 23, 2017, 05:32:39 pm
As someone who took prescription pain meds for all of 10 minutes once when I tore cartilage in my knee, I have a hard time understanding this particular addiction.  The drugs I was prescribed made me feel like (expletive).  I don't even think they relieved the pain. I just think they made me not care.  Not a feeling I like. 

Pennsylvania is spending gobs of taxpayer money on this "crisis."  One of the local TV channels is running incessant news stories and advertisements on the subject.  It also appears that an increasing number of clinics have popped up, claiming to offer a cure for this addiction.  It's another reason not to watch tv.

Maybe I'm hard hearted, but I don't see a problem here that should be my concern. There are plenty of people out there in a lot worse pain. Why reach for some powerful drug every time you feel little more than a pinch?  Maybe it's because we now have a generation of delicate snowflakes who don't know how to tough it out. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on April 23, 2017, 06:26:57 pm
Very sad...living in a trailer park after stardom.  As for the heroin, unfortunately, you're probably correct.

An article I read said she was living in a trailer park with her husband.

Not jumping to conclusions without evidence, but was he part of her problem?  Could he not work and provide them a home?  Was he doing drugs?

Don't know if those questions will ever be answered, but I find this story tragic.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on April 23, 2017, 06:29:25 pm
Joanie Loves Smack

She was on the Booze Cruise too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on April 23, 2017, 06:31:29 pm
She was on the Booze Cruise too.

Apparently so was Cuba Gooding, Sr.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 23, 2017, 06:36:11 pm
Fame, and particularly early-life fame, doesn't seem to do anyone any good.  Some rise above, but many are not able to.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on April 23, 2017, 06:38:09 pm
I don't think she made great money at residuals or gigs, but it seems she should have had enough to not be living in a trailer park in small town Indiana. That tends to hint at a substance abuse problem.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on April 23, 2017, 07:21:42 pm
I agree, @Applewood . I'm a Pittsburgher living in WV, and both our states' news media incessantly yammer about the opioid crisis and "what is government going to do about it?!?!?!?"  but no one seems to consider the abusers' responsibility in all this.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on April 23, 2017, 07:25:24 pm
Addiction/overdose is becoming a very disturbing trend and its just not from street drugs but prescription drugs as well.  Something needs to be done.

President Trump, AG Sessions and the Homeland Security guy Kelly have all stated the Border Wall is in part to impede the importation of dangerous drugs to our children and family members.

My understanding is, Heroin is more easy to get and cheaper, than prescription pain meds (Opioids).

The prescription variety are predictable, the dosage and content are clear. Heroin is a roll of the dice. Unexpectedly strong stuff killed Janice Joplin and Jimi Hendrix.

They were of course foolish, but not intending to commit suicide. I believe few today, intend to OD and die.

Once in the grip of Opioids and Heroin, you just want more, your judgment is gone.  Unlike the two above, Prince apparently OD'd on prescription variety meds. 

Modern medicine is great for surgeries, but pretty awful when it comes to getting folks off pain med addictions. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on April 23, 2017, 07:31:01 pm
Free heroin is the way to go. Hand it out like candy. Manufactured here without impurities and dosage controlled.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 23, 2017, 07:32:48 pm
I good place to start understanding the Opioid issue would be to knock off the idea that everybody who takes them needs to get off them.  There are people with chronic conditions that don't respond to other medications.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 23, 2017, 07:33:22 pm
Very sad...living in a trailer park after stardom.  As for the heroin, unfortunately, you're probably correct.
@libertybele

Don't know for sure yet about heroin or other drugs, but the Indianapolis Star says Moran and her husband
first moved to Indianapolis to help care for his ailing mother. They'd also hit hard times before moving there,
when their home was foreclosed upon and they were forced to sell another couple of California properties.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on April 23, 2017, 07:48:49 pm
@libertybele

Don't know for sure yet about heroin or other drugs, but the Indianapolis Star says Moran and her husband
first moved to Indianapolis to help care for his ailing mother. They'd also hit hard times before moving there,
when their home was foreclosed upon and they were forced to sell another couple of California properties.

She was reportedly kicked out of her trailer park home in Indiana because of her hard-partying ways.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on April 23, 2017, 08:03:39 pm
I good place to start understanding the Opioid issue would be to knock off the idea that everybody who takes them needs to get off them.  There are people with chronic conditions that don't respond to other medications.
I have no idea, where you got the idea that "everybody who takes them needs to get off."

But people that no longer need them, get strung out on them, cut off by their doctors, and turn to deadly Heroin.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 23, 2017, 08:07:42 pm
I have no idea, where you got the idea that "everybody who takes them needs to get off."

But people that no longer need them, get strung out on them, cut off by their doctors, and turn to deadly Heroin.

Obviously I misinterpreted this line, and the gist of several that came before.

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Modern medicine is great for surgeries, but pretty awful when it comes to getting folks off pain med addictions. 

Every time I see people mention pain meds, it's in the same sentence as getting off them.  I guess I just read things incorrectly.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on April 23, 2017, 08:46:02 pm
Obviously I misinterpreted this line, and the gist of several that came before.

Every time I see people mention pain meds, it's in the same sentence as getting off them.  I guess I just read things incorrectly.
I had my own personal experience with legitimate pain meds. I decided to try getting off, BEFORE my Doctor or PA even hinted about it.

I find the side effects of the drugs, to be worse than the pain. So for several subsequent surgeries, I got off the drugs asap, as in 2 days or less.

So I restate, I do NOT think our medical professionals do a very good job, managing pain meds.

We have a family friend, and their son died from the Tylenol in his pain meds. Did he REALLY need those pills, for years?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 23, 2017, 09:03:44 pm
I good place to start understanding the Opioid issue would be to knock off the idea that everybody who takes them needs to get off them.  There are people with chronic conditions that don't respond to other medications.

@Cyber Liberty

True,but people need to wake up to the FACT that pain is your friend. It reminds you that you are injured so you don't do something stupid to make the injury worse. Yes,there are levels of pain that nobody can deal with. I call them the "I want my mama!" pain level. I've been there myself,and when you are there,you will take anything you can get your hands on. I have been there myself,but don't worry about recognizing it if you ever get there. You'll know.

BUT.....,pretty much anything below that level can be dealt with and the fewer downs you take for pain the longer you will live. People with chronic pain that take opioids on a daily basis may be managing their pain,but they are also weakening their heart and guaranteeing themselves a early death.  The ironic part about this is the more of them you take and the longer you take them,the less effective they are at easing pain,so you end up taking more to get less pain relief and to feed the monkey on your back. You have taken a bad problem,and made it worse.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 23, 2017, 09:05:28 pm
An article I read said she was living in a trailer park with her husband.  Not jumping to conclusions without evidence, but was he part of her problem?  Could he not work and provide them a home? 

Actually, her husband was the one working ... albeit at Walmart, but he was the one with a paying job.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: verga on April 23, 2017, 09:09:27 pm
I had my own personal experience with legitimate pain meds. I decided to try getting off, BEFORE my Doctor or PA even hinted about it.

I find the side effects of the drugs, to be worse than the pain. So for several subsequent surgeries, I got off the drugs asap, as in 2 days or less.

So I restate, I do NOT think our medical professionals do a very good job, managing pain meds.

We have a family friend, and their son died from the Tylenol in his pain meds. Did he REALLY need those pills, for years?
I had hip surgery this time last year. I have a prescription for pain meds. I will take maybe one every month or so, the rest of the time it is either Advil or "suck it up buttercup". I saw what my uncle went through 30 years ago for a shattered knee. Not happening to this bright eyed boy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 23, 2017, 09:09:28 pm
I have no idea, where you got the idea that "everybody who takes them needs to get off."

But people that no longer need them, get strung out on them, cut off by their doctors, and turn to deadly Heroin.

@truth_seeker

Heroin is no more deadly that most other drugs. What makes it so dangerous is varying purity. Even people who have been junkies for decades will step off the planet if they buy a batch that is pretty much uncut. This is why junkies in the Netherlands almost never OD,and why most of them hold jobs. The purity of the free heroin they get from the government is consistent,so they know how much to take and still be able to function. No "hot shots".
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 23, 2017, 09:09:58 pm
So I restate, I do NOT think our medical professionals do a very good job, managing pain meds.

We have a family friend, and their son died from the Tylenol in his pain meds. Did he REALLY need those pills, for years?

Tylenol's active ingredient, Acetaminophen, has been proven to destroy the liver.  Many reports from a few years ago suggested Tylenol should be taken off the market as it would not receive FDA approval based on what is known today.

But that "crusade" went nowhere.  Except ... I don't let Tylenol anywhere near anyone in my family.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on April 23, 2017, 09:16:13 pm
@truth_seeker

Heroin is no more deadly that most other drugs. What makes it so dangerous is varying purity. Even people who have been junkies for decades will step off the planet if they buy a batch that is pretty much uncut. This is why junkies in the Netherlands almost never OD,and why most of them hold jobs. The purity of the free heroin they get from the government is consistent,so they know how much to take and still be able to function. No "hot shots".
I understand the purity aspect. That is what I meant to convey re. Joplin and Hendrix. When I say "deadly" I simply mean the risk of extra strong strength.

The strongest drugs in my own background were marijuana, finished about 40 yrs. ago, and beer finished over 23 yrs. ago.

Caffeine is now my drug of choice.


Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 23, 2017, 09:23:48 pm
I don't think she made great money at residuals or gigs, but it seems she should have had enough to not be living in a trailer park in small town Indiana. That tends to hint at a substance abuse problem.
Or she got some seriously raw deals along the way.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 23, 2017, 09:30:53 pm
I had my own personal experience with legitimate pain meds. I decided to try getting off, BEFORE my Doctor or PA even hinted about it.

I find the side effects of the drugs, to be worse than the pain. So for several subsequent surgeries, I got off the drugs asap, as in 2 days or less.

So I restate, I do NOT think our medical professionals do a very good job, managing pain meds.

We have a family friend, and their son died from the Tylenol in his pain meds. Did he REALLY need those pills, for years?

Drs. could do better at managing pain.  Government getting involved, as they've been doing more and more, is arguably worse with their one-size-fits-all solutions.  There are people with legitimate reasons for taking some of these long term, and they are the easiest marks for crusaders to hit.

Just about every bad idea perpetrated on the American people started, at one point, with someone saying "there ought to be a law!" 

This argument is really for another thread.  This is Obits, where we pay some respect to those who just passed.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 23, 2017, 09:38:34 pm
@Cyber Liberty

True,but people need to wake up to the FACT that pain is your friend. It reminds you that you are injured so you don't do something stupid to make the injury worse. Yes,there are levels of pain that nobody can deal with. I call them the "I want my mama!" pain level. I've been there myself,and when you are there,you will take anything you can get your hands on. I have been there myself,but don't worry about recognizing it if you ever get there. You'll know.

BUT.....,pretty much anything below that level can be dealt with and the fewer downs you take for pain the longer you will live. People with chronic pain that take opioids on a daily basis may be managing their pain,but they are also weakening their heart and guaranteeing themselves a early death.  The ironic part about this is the more of them you take and the longer you take them,the less effective they are at easing pain,so you end up taking more to get less pain relief and to feed the monkey on your back. You have taken a bad problem,and made it worse.
I pretty much agree with all that. Least effective dose, and the basic question: "Can I handle this? Is this worse than when....?"
Practice makes you more resistant, imho, and someone who studied that would probably see endorphin production at higher levels in people who don't often use pain killers for relief of relatively minor pain.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on April 24, 2017, 12:25:58 am
@Cyber Liberty

True,but people need to wake up to the FACT that pain is your friend. It reminds you that you are injured so you don't do something stupid to make the injury worse. Yes,there are levels of pain that nobody can deal with. I call them the "I want my mama!" pain level. I've been there myself,and when you are there,you will take anything you can get your hands on. I have been there myself,but don't worry about recognizing it if you ever get there. You'll know.

BUT.....,pretty much anything below that level can be dealt with and the fewer downs you take for pain the longer you will live. People with chronic pain that take opioids on a daily basis may be managing their pain,but they are also weakening their heart and guaranteeing themselves a early death.  The ironic part about this is the more of them you take and the longer you take them,the less effective they are at easing pain,so you end up taking more to get less pain relief and to feed the monkey on your back. You have taken a bad problem,and made it worse.

I hear you. Yes, pain indicates something is wrong, but not all ailments can be fixed or diagnosed, nor can the medical profession always find what's causing the pain. I've always been one that has felt; don't treat the symptom, but find out what is causing the symptom and fix it. Irrectractable relentless pain where people will do anything to get some relief exists. Over time our bodies build up a resistance to some pain meds and I've seen people in so much pain that morphine, methadone and tramadol didn't touch it.  It's a horrible thing to watch. Pain management is a joke.  The doctors prescribe anything and everything and then send the patient on their way and if what the prescribe doesn't work, they'll be happy to Let the patient suffer and see the patient in 6-8 weeks and prescribe something different ... or refuse to prescribe anything else because they don't believe the patient or they've run out of options.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 24, 2017, 01:33:04 am

The strongest drugs in my own background were marijuana, finished about 40 yrs. ago, and beer finished over 23 yrs. ago.

Caffeine is now my drug of choice.

@truth_seeker

I did them ALL. Even the ones I didn't enjoy I did a second time to make sure. My pot smoking ended years ago when I came down with COPD from inhaling mold and mildew spoors while cutting away and replacing rotten wood and carpet in my house. Damn near died. I'd black out with no warning while trying to walk to the truck,and wake up some time later laying out in the yard. Guess when I quit smoking cigarettes,too.

Quit  drinking a couple of years before that,and now I have pretty much given up on coffee. I drink green tea. Lot less caffeine and easier on the system.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 24, 2017, 01:38:47 am
I pretty much agree with all that. Least effective dose, and the basic question: "Can I handle this? Is this worse than when....?"
Practice makes you more resistant, imho, and someone who studied that would probably see endorphin production at higher levels in people who don't often use pain killers for relief of relatively minor pain.

@Smokin Joe

I plead "Guilty" to the endorphin thing. Not saying I don't feel pain when I am injured,but I seem to be able to handle it better than most people. Can't take credit for that. It's something you are born with or not born with,but I honestly think MOST people can "teach" themselves to become adjusted to increasing levels of pain with less stress by simply accepting it's there and dealing with it.

Some people are hyper-sensitive to pain,and there's not much they can do to change that. Everybody has their own tolerance level,and none of us can tell someone else what they can deal with and what they can't deal with.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on April 24, 2017, 01:40:16 am
I think there are a helluva lot of people in the entertainment industry that don't have a happy life. Not what I consider a happy life. Even if they make the money.

RIP Erin.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 24, 2017, 01:54:23 am
@Smokin Joe

I plead "Guilty" to the endorphin thing. Not saying I don't feel pain when I am injured,but I seem to be able to handle it better than most people. Can't take credit for that. It's something you are born with or not born with,but I honestly think MOST people can "teach" themselves to become adjusted to increasing levels of pain with less stress by simply accepting it's there and dealing with it.
I do that. Okay, it hurts. Now what? Or I'm busy, get a minor injury, say 'ouch' and go on--after all, I'm busy. Later, it will ache, and I'll wonder how in the hell I did that? So I actually think focusing on it or not makes a difference, too, but either that is inborn or learned early (I think) and people may or may not be able to change focus as they get older.
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Some people are hyper-sensitive to pain,and there's not much they can do to change that. Everybody has their own tolerance level,and none of us can tell someone else what they can deal with and what they can't deal with.
Yep. I'm not belittling anyone for hurting, not everyone can handle the same amount or even the same type of pain. Some people hurt when they get cut, I rarely do. Other things I feel more. It's different for everyone, but I think we have the expectation that we are supposed to be completely pain free, and I just don't see that as realistic, especially as I get older. Besides, if it didn't hurt, I'd never have an excuse to be grumpy!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 24, 2017, 07:50:22 am
I think there are a helluva lot of people in the entertainment industry that don't have a happy life. Not what I consider a happy life. Even if they make the money.

RIP Erin.

@bigheadfred

How can they be  happy when they spend so much time convincing themselves they are someone else so they can play a role that they have forgotten who THEY are?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 24, 2017, 07:54:47 am
I do that. Okay, it hurts. Now what? Or I'm busy, get a minor injury, say 'ouch' and go on--after all, I'm busy. Later, it will ache, and I'll wonder how in the hell I did that? So I actually think focusing on it or not makes a difference, too, but either that is inborn or learned early (I think) and people may or may not be able to change focus as they get older.Yep. I'm not belittling anyone for hurting, not everyone can handle the same amount or even the same type of pain. Some people hurt when they get cut, I rarely do. Other things I feel more. It's different for everyone, but I think we have the expectation that we are supposed to be completely pain free, and I just don't see that as realistic, especially as I get older. Besides, if it didn't hurt, I'd never have an excuse to be grumpy!  :laugh:

@Smokin Joe

I agree.  I've been able to deal with and dismiss almost every injury or pain I have ever had. The exception that stands out like a lighthouse on a stormy beach is a kidney stone. That's a level of pain you have to experience to believe. If there is anything that hurts more than that,I don't even want to hear rumors about it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on April 24, 2017, 08:46:22 am
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Kate Walsh O’Beirne R.I.P.
by Ramesh Ponnuru April 23, 2017 3:05 PM

(http://c6.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/kate-obeirne-portrait-main.jpg)

Kate O’Beirne was part of National Review’s world before she joined the staff. When she became the magazine’s Washington editor in 1995 her resume already included stints at Senator Jim Buckley’s office, the Reagan administration, and the Heritage Foundation. She served NR in that position for eleven years and then became president of National Review Institute for six more.

 She brought a witty and well-informed conservatism to a national television audience as well through weekly appearances on CNN’s marquee political talk show “Capital Gang.” Conservatives were outnumbered there as on cable news generally at that time, but it never seemed that way as long as she was on.

 Both her “Bread and Circuses” column for NR and her television commentary were marked by a rare combination of a deep interest in conservative policy, psychological insight, and common sense. Many of those same qualities put her advice — on politics, editorials, careers, and personal matters — in high demand.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/446976/kate-walsh-obeirne-r-i-p
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 24, 2017, 01:21:08 pm

Kate Walsh O’Beirne R.I.P.


@TomSea

She died from cancer,and since there was mention of her being a chain-smoker and it was related to her death,I am assuming it was lung cancer.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on April 24, 2017, 01:28:00 pm
Interesting article on Fox News Entertainment about Erin Moran.....

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/24/erin-morans-final-days-fellow-former-child-stars-were-trying-to-help.html (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/24/erin-morans-final-days-fellow-former-child-stars-were-trying-to-help.html)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on April 24, 2017, 01:47:49 pm
When my late father worked in TV in St. Louis Erin came to town on a promotional tour. She and my sister had dinner together.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on April 24, 2017, 02:56:29 pm
Interesting article on Fox News Entertainment about Erin Moran.....

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/24/erin-morans-final-days-fellow-former-child-stars-were-trying-to-help.html (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/24/erin-morans-final-days-fellow-former-child-stars-were-trying-to-help.html)

Thank you for the link.  I did hear about Paul Petersen's support and advocacy group for former child actors, and I understand the group does good work. It's just too bad they couldn't save Erin Moran.  But all the resources and support in the world can't save a person if he or she doesn't want to be saved.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on April 24, 2017, 03:00:00 pm
Thank you for the link.  I did hear about Paul Petersen's support and advocacy group for former child actors, and I understand the group does good work. It's just too bad they couldn't save Erin Moran.  But all the resources and support in the world can't save a person if he or she doesn't want to be saved.

Yes........... it sounds like there were multiple people reaching out to her and trying to help.

But you are absolutely correct.  If she didn't want to be saved, there was nothing anyone else could do.

A very sad situation, in any case......
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Millee on April 24, 2017, 03:05:28 pm
When my late father worked in TV in St. Louis Erin came to town on a promotional tour. She and my sister had dinner together.

How many years ago was this?  What was she like then?

@mountaineer
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on April 24, 2017, 03:10:48 pm
It was when Happy Days was on TV (that was 1974-84), so that dinner was probably around 1977-78, when my sister still was in high school. She and Erin were around the same age. They got along well - as I recall, my sister said she was very nice and friendly.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on April 24, 2017, 03:12:31 pm
It was when Happy Days was on TV (that was 1974-84), so that dinner was probably around 1977-78, when my sister still was in high school. She and Erin were around the same age. They got along well - as I recall, my sister said she was very nice and friendly.

It sounds like her troubles started after then end of her two shows.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on April 24, 2017, 03:16:49 pm
From the Telegraph (U.K.): (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/happy-days-tragic-final-years-erin-joanie-moran/)
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...
In the wake of Moran’s death (Mail Online claimed she died of a suspected heroin overdose in her mother-in-law’s trailer, but an official autopsy is still pending), it was reported that many former child stars had reached out to the Happy Days star in recent weeks. Fonz actor Henry Winkler had too, in 2012, reportedly sought out a role for Moran on the Netflix reboot of Arrested Development, a comedy that also featured Scott Baio.

“Erin had friends and she knew it. Abandonment was not the issue. The perversity of human frailty is at the root of this loss, not failure,” wrote Paul Petersen, who runs the child-actor advocacy group A Minor Consideration, on Facebook. “We did our best with the resources available to us, but it was a very dark room. Some don’t find the light switch in time.”

Neighbours at the New Salisbury, Indiana trailer park she called home referred to Moran as a friendly, kind woman, who had become something of a recluse in recent months.  ...

In interviews over the years, Moran spoke of her affection for her Happy Days character, and how much she appreciated her time in the spotlight. But she also made occasional references to an underlying darkness that sometimes enveloped her, like her discomfort with Joanie Cunningham’s rapid sexualisation upon turning 15, instigated by Happy Days producers, or her depression in the wake of the sitcom’s end. She also told Sitcoms Online that she had experienced “mental and physical abuse” in her childhood, though insisted that the entertainment industry had largely treated her well.

For many actors, such close identification with just one role can become a curse, the ghost of a past that seemed to vanish as quickly as it materialised. But Moran had no such hostility, telling Pop Culture Addict that she was happy to be remembered for her sitcom role.

“When somebody accidentally calls me Joanie and they apologise, I say, ‘Don’t apologise. I wouldn’t be here otherwise.’ ”   ...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: DCPatriot on April 24, 2017, 03:20:10 pm
It didn't help Erin Moran that "Ritchie" went on to become on of Hollywood's top director's and the Fonz also continued for awhile on the Big Screen. 

I'm sure that didn't help her self-assessment with a half empty bottle of Jack next to her.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Restored on April 24, 2017, 03:23:12 pm
I make you look a little sideways at the whole Harry Potter crowd. That's a target rich environment.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 24, 2017, 03:33:32 pm
It didn't help Erin Moran that "Ritchie" went on to become on of Hollywood's top director's and the Fonz also continued for awhile on the Big Screen. 

I'm sure that didn't help her self-assessment with a half empty bottle of Jack next to her.
I think there's a real possibility that it might have just been a mental disorder, possibly made worse by menopause, and again if she was resorting to illicit drugs it would have obviously made it even worse.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on April 24, 2017, 03:57:26 pm
Thank you for the link.  I did hear about Paul Petersen's support and advocacy group for former child actors, and I understand the group does good work. It's just too bad they couldn't save Erin Moran.  But all the resources and support in the world can't save a person if he or she doesn't want to be saved.
The grip of addiction is very powerful. Many times an addict will profess they want help, but will nonetheless fail over and over to follow through when help is given.

Recovery resources are bountiful. They have been made to be highly profitable, by Obamacare.

But the olde fashioned way might work best, because it is NOT sugar coated.

http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/adult-rehabilitation

But if your loved one insists on only the Cadillac treatment, get your Obamacare substance treatment here

http://obamacarefacts.com/questions/does-obamacare-cover-drug-and-alcohol-treatment/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mystery-ak on April 24, 2017, 04:33:37 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/24/erin-morans-final-days-fellow-former-child-stars-were-trying-to-help.html
Erin Moran 'likely died' of complications of stage 4 cancer, autopsy reveals
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on April 24, 2017, 04:38:31 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/24/erin-morans-final-days-fellow-former-child-stars-were-trying-to-help.html
Erin Moran 'likely died' of complications of stage 4 cancer, autopsy reveals

Well, that certainly would explain a few things.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on April 24, 2017, 05:23:05 pm
Well, that certainly would explain a few things.

Certainly does, doesn't it? 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 24, 2017, 05:31:17 pm
Happy Days Star Erin Moran Died of Stage 4 Cancer, Authorities Reveal
People, Apr 24, 2017

According to a statement released by the Harrison County Coroner’s office on Monday obtained by WDRB News, a subsequent autopsy revealed that Moran “likely succumbed to complications of stage 4 cancer.”

“On Saturday the 22nd day of April, 2017, Erin Marie Moran-Fleischmann passed away at her residence located in New Salisbury Indiana. A joint investigation into Mrs. Moran’s death was conducted by the Harrison County Sheriff’s Department and the Harrison County Coroner’s Office,” reads the statement. “A subsequent autopsy revealed that Mrs. Moran likely succumbed to complications of stage 4 cancer.”

“Standard toxicology tests were performed and the results are pending however no illegal narcotics were found at the residence,” adds the statement.

http://people.com/tv/happy-days-star-erin-moran-died-stage-4-cancer/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 24, 2017, 05:54:48 pm
Well, that certainly would explain a few things.
Indeed. Still tragic, but thankfully for everyone no fault was at play. (And yes, I was wrong about the heroin part.)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on April 24, 2017, 05:57:33 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/24/erin-morans-final-days-fellow-former-child-stars-were-trying-to-help.html
Erin Moran 'likely died' of complications of stage 4 cancer, autopsy reveals

Very sad ... perhaps she didn't have the money to get treatment??
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 24, 2017, 06:03:43 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/24/erin-morans-final-days-fellow-former-child-stars-were-trying-to-help.html
Erin Moran 'likely died' of complications of stage 4 cancer, autopsy reveals

The memory of Erin is owed an apology by all the drug warriors on this thread who accused her, and everybody else who treats pain with Opiods, an apology. 

I don't expect one, either.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Millee on April 24, 2017, 06:09:20 pm
She probably couldn't afford OcommieCare. 

RIP, Erin.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on April 24, 2017, 06:34:58 pm
The memory of Erin is owed an apology by all the drug warriors on this thread who accused her, and everybody else who treats pain with Opiods, an apology. 

I don't expect one, either.
The discussion about opioids and abuse thereof, arose from the suggestion she was a druggie, and overdosed.

There are people with legitimate pain, which modern medicine treats with medications.

And there are drug addicts and abusers, that give the drugs a bad reputation. 

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 24, 2017, 06:36:06 pm
Very sad ... perhaps she didn't have the money to get treatment??

Or, she may have spent what money she did have for it. She and other Happy Days stars reached
a settlement with CBS (which owns Happy Days for syndication and DVD) that paid her and
the others involved a $65,000 lump sum and forced CBS to honour merchandising royalties to them,
which probably helped her huge financially but you can expect the cancer drained even those
resources.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 24, 2017, 06:46:08 pm
The discussion about opioids and abuse thereof, arose from the suggestion she was a druggie, and overdosed.

There are people with legitimate pain, which modern medicine treats with medications.

And there are drug addicts and abusers, that give the drugs a bad reputation.

 :beer:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on April 24, 2017, 06:49:59 pm
Sad that she was slandered as a druggie, when it was cancer. Way to piss on someone's grave.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 24, 2017, 06:54:54 pm
The discussion about opioids and abuse thereof, arose from the suggestion she was a druggie, and overdosed.

There are people with legitimate pain, which modern medicine treats with medications.

And there are drug addicts and abusers, that give the drugs a bad reputation.

It's also wise to observe that merely because many if not most druggies would like an end to the ridiculous War on Drugs, it
doesn't follow that many if not most who would like an end to the ridiculous War on Drugs are druggies.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 24, 2017, 07:05:18 pm
Sad that she was slandered as a druggie, when it was cancer. Way to piss on someone's grave.

Yeah I saw that as well.

She did have a history of drug issues but there was no indication that her death had anything to do with them.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Restored on April 24, 2017, 07:12:32 pm
"likely died of complications" is awfully vague. I guess the point is that she is dead.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 24, 2017, 07:46:39 pm
Thank you for the link.  I did hear about Paul Petersen's support and advocacy group for former child actors, and I understand the group does good work. It's just too bad they couldn't save Erin Moran.  But all the resources and support in the world can't save a person if he or she doesn't want to be saved.

@Applewood

All the saving in the world isn't going to help anybody with Stage 4 cancer.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 24, 2017, 07:53:10 pm
It didn't help Erin Moran that "Ritchie" went on to become on of Hollywood's top director's and the Fonz also continued for awhile on the Big Screen. 

I'm sure that didn't help her self-assessment with a half empty bottle of Jack next to her.

@DCPatriot

You may be right,but I have never understood how or why anyone would establish their own sense of self-worth based on the accomplishments or successes of others.

I never really gave a damn what others were saying,thinking,or doing,unless they were saying,doing,and thinking it about me in  a way that might cause me harm.

I am my own person with my life to live,and so is everyone else. I would rather focus on what *I* want to accomplish than waste any of my time being jealous or resentful of what others do.

If you do good in life,"Good for you!". If you don't do well according to your own dreams and standards and this makes you unhappy,you have my sympathy.

Meanwhile,I have my own train to run.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 24, 2017, 07:55:26 pm
Very sad ... perhaps she didn't have the money to get treatment??

@libertybele

All the money in the world is of no help when you have Stage 4 cancer.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 24, 2017, 07:56:06 pm
The memory of Erin is owed an apology by all the drug warriors on this thread who accused her, and everybody else who treats pain with Opiods, an apology. 

I don't expect one, either.

@Cyber Liberty  :amen:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 24, 2017, 07:58:57 pm
It's also wise to observe that merely because many if not most druggies would like an end to the ridiculous War on Drugs, it
doesn't follow that many if not most who would like an end to the ridiculous War on Drugs are druggies.

@EasyAce

Some people,like me,are just "live and let live" types. I may not personally approve of what someone else does,but as long as they aren't doing it to me it's really none of my damn business.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Restored on April 24, 2017, 08:24:03 pm
The memory of Erin is owed an apology by all the drug warriors on this thread who accused her, and everybody else who treats pain with Opiods, an apology. 

I don't expect one, either.

Note, it doesn't say how she died so an overdose is possible. It sure beats dying of Stage 4 Cancer in my book and could be justified.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod2 on April 24, 2017, 08:28:00 pm
Separate Erin Moran thread merged into this one.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on April 24, 2017, 08:50:36 pm
It's also wise to observe that merely because many if not most druggies would like an end to the ridiculous War on Drugs, it
doesn't follow that many if not most who would like an end to the ridiculous War on Drugs are druggies.

I'm no druggie and have never been for the iodic "War" on drugs!  Fought many verbal battle over it in fact.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 24, 2017, 09:21:58 pm
I'm no druggie and have never been for the iodic "War" on drugs!  Fought many verbal battle over it in fact.

Likewise. Even if I've smoked marijuana exactly twice in my life. To some among the idiot brigades
smoking it twice in sixtysomething years makes you a hardcore druggie.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 24, 2017, 09:34:46 pm
The memory of Erin is owed an apology by all the drug warriors on this thread who accused her, and everybody else who treats pain with Opiods, an apology. 

I don't expect one, either.
As the one who brought it up, I have no qualms saying I am sorry.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 24, 2017, 09:42:30 pm
As the one who brought it up, I have no qualms saying I am sorry.

You've been the most decent about it.  You're OK in my book....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 24, 2017, 10:12:29 pm
As the one who brought it up, I have no qualms saying I am sorry.

@jmyrlefuller  888high58888
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on April 24, 2017, 11:49:30 pm
About the time last late August when I couldn't take the pain any longer I got me some oxycontin. Last resort. Made me groggy and didn't help stop the pain. I got a five day supply and have three days worth left. All that can be yours...if the price is right...

On a lighter note when the meds didn't help I figured I could save them up and then leave. Leaving became the thought for the day. Every day. It wasn't that I was felling sorry for myself. I was pissed off about it.

I want to note that everyone out there wants to feel good. They are going to do that whatever it takes. It doesn't have to be alcohol or drugs.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on April 25, 2017, 12:00:22 am


I want to note that everyone out there wants to feel good. They are going to do that whatever it takes. It doesn't have to be alcohol or drugs.

It's chocolate!!!!

And personally, I find a teddy bear works too. Or kittens and/or puppies
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 25, 2017, 12:08:06 am
It's chocolate!!!!

And personally, I find a teddy bear works too. Or kittens and/or puppies

(http://www.pbh2.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/cutest-kitten-gifs-massage.gif)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on April 25, 2017, 12:18:21 am
Likewise. Even if I've smoked marijuana exactly twice in my life. To some among the idiot brigades
smoking it twice in sixtysomething years makes you a hardcore druggie.

I only smoked pot twice in my life. Once for fifteen years and once for ten.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 25, 2017, 12:22:58 am
It's chocolate!!!!
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9d/6a/ec/9d6aec0f0ed78e891ad1fcc7e304cb96.jpg)

(http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/5th_series/pounds_front_small.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fe/67/91/fe67912d9aa4266f06901be8d37f90ce.jpg)

(http://www.lostwackys.com/images/original-series/1st/hostage.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 25, 2017, 12:56:20 am
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9d/6a/ec/9d6aec0f0ed78e891ad1fcc7e304cb96.jpg)

(http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/5th_series/pounds_front_small.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fe/67/91/fe67912d9aa4266f06901be8d37f90ce.jpg)

(http://www.lostwackys.com/images/original-series/1st/hostage.jpg)

@EasyAce

I had no idea you are a hater.

Or a communist. Only a communist would hate chocolate.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 25, 2017, 01:21:01 am
@EasyAce

I had no idea you are a hater.

Or a communist. Only a communist would hate chocolate.
@sneakypete

I'm not a chocolate hater, just a satire lover. And chocolate wasn't the only subject of that line:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/WackyPackGulp200.jpg)

(http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/2nd_series/whitebacks/awfulbits_white_front_small_smaller_images.jpg)

(http://www.lostwackys.com/images/original-series/1st/quacker-oats.jpg)

(http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/6th_series/blisterine_small_smaller_images.jpg)

And I thought only Communists hated satire.  :tongue2:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on April 25, 2017, 01:47:14 am
@EasyAce

I had no idea you are a hater.

Or a communist. Only a communist would hate chocolate.
My best friend in high schools Uncle was found in the hospital after being missing for two days, he had a really bad accident in the early morning hours in South Central L.A. When my friends mother asked him what the hell he was doing there at that hour he responded "If you've never tried the chocolate, don't knock it". :tongue2:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on April 25, 2017, 02:23:06 am
Back to the more seriousness of this topic,

Robert Pirsig who wrote Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance has passed away at 88 years old. I'm sure many of us have read that book, I have.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/apr/25/robert-pirsig-zen-and-the-art-of-motorcycle-maintenance-author-dies-aged-88

(https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Pirsig2005-800x430.png)

That was a very popular book.

Paperbacks really ruled in America once upon a time.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Restored on April 25, 2017, 02:29:01 am
I started college in 1976 as an English major. Zen was one of THE books.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on April 25, 2017, 03:15:39 am
It's chocolate!!!!

And personally, I find a teddy bear works too. Or kittens and/or puppies

Yesiree!!!  Chocolate, and the darker the better!!!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on April 25, 2017, 12:01:02 pm
I started college in 1976 as an English major. Zen was one of THE books.

I started college in 1980 also as an English major.

Ditto for Zen. I still have a paperback of it in my library.

(I loved being an English major)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 25, 2017, 05:08:10 pm
I started college in 1980 also as an English major.

Ditto for Zen. I still have a paperback of it in my library.

(I loved being an English major)

Mine fell apart finally!
(Fellow English major here . . .)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 25, 2017, 05:16:23 pm
I started college in 1980 also as an English major.

Ditto for Zen. I still have a paperback of it in my library.

(I loved being an English major)

It's also a bang-up book about fixing motorcycles.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on April 25, 2017, 09:39:34 pm
Fixing anything, really. The mindset is the same, whether you are fixing a bike, a tap, or a person.

Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on April 26, 2017, 10:55:44 am
Reportedly posted on Facebook:
Quote
Scott Baio
19 hrs ·

Open letter from Steve. (Erin Moran's Husband).

Erin and I met 4/22/1992 and parted ways 4/22/2017. We were planning to go to Thunder Over Louisville to celebrate.
She was feeling fine on our anniversary 11-23-2016. Maybe four or five days after we got back Erin woke up and had about a dime size blood stain on her pillowcase. She said I think i bit my tongue. A couple days go by and there's a bigger spot of blood. We get like 4 days into December, there's more blood. I get a flashlight and say let me look. It was not her tongue it was her tonsil on the left side. I thought it was tonsillitis.

So we went to an ENT who said they wanted to biopsy it. It came back squamous cell carcinoma. She started radiation and chemo. Five days a week radiation and chemo only on Thursdays. We did that the whole time. It got so bad so fast. By the
middle of February, Erin could no longer speak or eat or drink. She had a feeding tube implant and i feed her 6 to 8 times a day. She was still happy, she was active, she texted people on her phone all day. On the 21st she was having trouble breathing. She woke up on the 22nd, she was not 100%.

She needed Kleenex, so i went to the store and came back. She was there watching T.V in bed. I laid down next to her held her right hand in my left. I feel asleep woke up about a hour later still holding her hand and she was gone, she was just gone.. Norton Cancer Institute never said how bad it was.. The coroner told me it was really really bad. It had spread to her spleen, she had alot of fluid in her lungs and part of her brain was infected. The coroner said even if she was in the hospital being pumped full of antibiotics she still would not of made it. He said it was the best that she was with me and went in her sleep. So that's it.

PLEASE feel free to send the above to Any and ALL news outlets The press has been relentless. they knock on the door constantly. Thank you Harrison County Sheriff's I Called last night and they came out ran them off got up this morning
they were all back sheriffs ran them all off again. the last time two cop cars ran off the last ones right before it got dark. we will see what tomorrow brings....  PEACE my friends.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 26, 2017, 11:40:31 am
Reportedly posted on Facebook:

It's the real deal. And sad considering how fast she went when all was said and done.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 26, 2017, 11:46:52 am
It's the real deal. And sad considering how fast she went when all was said and done.

I dunno, Ace.  Fast is better when you get to that point.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 26, 2017, 11:50:53 am
I dunno, Ace.  Fast is better when you get to that point.

If it exploded inside her the way her husband describes, you're right.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on April 26, 2017, 12:45:25 pm
Reportedly posted on Facebook:

Thank you @mountaineer

56 is so young. Rest In Peace Erin.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on April 26, 2017, 01:17:17 pm
Reportedly posted on Facebook:

Oh, how sad....... 



I hate cancer.  It's evil.  EVIL.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on April 26, 2017, 03:00:43 pm
Silence Of The Lambs director Jonathan Demme dead at 73
The Oscar-winning director died from complications of his esophageal cancer
By Emmeline Saunders
    15:54, 26 APR 2017
Mirror (UK) (http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/silence-lambs-director-jonathan-demme-10299958)

Jonathan Demme, the director of huge films including Silence Of The Lambs, Philadelphia and Rachel Getting Married has passed away at the age of 73.

A source close to his family revealed to IndieWire that his cause of death esophageal cancer and complications from heart disease.

He had originally been treated for his cancer in 2010 but it returned in 2015.

We'll be bringing you the very latest updates, pictures and video on this breaking news story.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on April 26, 2017, 03:06:52 pm
Silence Of The Lambs director Jonathan Demme dead at 73
The Oscar-winning director died from complications of his esophageal cancer
By Emmeline Saunders
    15:54, 26 APR 2017
Mirror (UK) (http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/silence-lambs-director-jonathan-demme-10299958)

Jonathan Demme, the director of huge films including Silence Of The Lambs, Philadelphia and Rachel Getting Married has passed away at the age of 73.

A source close to his family revealed to IndieWire that his cause of death esophageal cancer and complications from heart disease.

He had originally been treated for his cancer in 2010 but it returned in 2015.

We'll be bringing you the very latest updates, pictures and video on this breaking news story.

Oh wow. That movie scared the you know what out of me.

RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 26, 2017, 05:52:02 pm
Oh, how sad....... 



I hate cancer.  It's evil.  EVIL.

@musiclady

The number 1 cause of death world-wide is birth.

Living causes dying.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 26, 2017, 05:56:25 pm
Oh wow. That movie scared the you know what out of me.

RIP

@Freya en

You should try reading the book and watching the other related films after reading those books.

I had never heard of the author,but when the paperback first came out I was at a K-Mart waiting to have the oil and filters changed in my new car,and discovered I didn't have a book with me to read while waiting,so I went inside the store to buy one.

The selection sucked unless you were a fan of romance novels,including cowboy romance novels. So I picked out the book that seemed to be the oddball book and bought it to read. The hair was standing up on the back of my neck by the end of the second chapter,but I couldn't put the damn thing down until I finished it.

The movie WAS very,very good,though.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 26, 2017, 06:02:18 pm
Oh, how sad....... 



I hate cancer.  It's evil.  EVIL.

My cousin's toddler had cancer and died a few years ago yet the cancer didn't kill her directly. She was so weak from the chemo and the cancer that she suffocated in her sleep simply because she turned her head to the right angle.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on April 26, 2017, 06:06:08 pm
@musiclady

The number 1 cause of death world-wide is birth.

Living causes dying.

As much as I understand that, I still think cancer is a stinky way to die.  The treatment is often worse than the disease, but if you want to stay alive a while longer, you need to deal with the horror of the treatment.

I hate cancer.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on April 26, 2017, 06:06:38 pm
@musiclady

The number 1 cause of death world-wide is birth.

Living causes dying.

No one gets out alive.  However, I prefer to go out at a very old age and very peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather...not as the 5 other screaming passengers in his car did when it went off the cliff.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on April 26, 2017, 06:09:18 pm
No one gets out alive.  However, I prefer to go out at a very old age and very peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather...not as the 5 other screaming passengers in his car did when it went off the cliff.

That may be an old joke, but it always brings a smile to one's face.

(A kind of sadistic smile, I guess....   :smokin:)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on April 26, 2017, 06:16:03 pm
My father died from esophageal cancer, five years after the initial surgery for it. One week short of age 70.

His death was actually from infections contracted in the hospital for the second surgery.

The surgery for esophageal cancer, is more invasive than open heart, since they go in from the front AND the back.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 26, 2017, 06:16:27 pm
As much as I understand that, I still think cancer is a stinky way to die.  The treatment is often worse than the disease, but if you want to stay alive a while longer, you need to deal with the horror of the treatment.

I hate cancer.

I want to correct that for those of you who may have to deal with this:  the treatment may not be very bad.  Not a fun way to spend a year, but not horrible either.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 26, 2017, 06:29:48 pm
I want to correct that for those of you who may have to deal with this:  the treatment may not be very bad.  Not a fun way to spend a year, but not horrible either.

True enough. My grandmother was diagnosed as terminal within 6 months by the local hospital but the VA gave her nearly 6 and a half more good and relatively pain free years. (not every story out of the VA is bad)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on April 26, 2017, 06:46:15 pm
I want to correct that for those of you who may have to deal with this:  the treatment may not be very bad.  Not a fun way to spend a year, but not horrible either.

Depends on what the treatments are and what the cancer is.  Chemo and palliative care has improved much since my younger sister died from melanoma in 1976, but with a son in law presently dealing with the treatment for late stage colon cancer, I'd say it still can be pretty awful.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 26, 2017, 06:47:59 pm
Depends on what the treatments are and what the cancer is.  Chemo and palliative care has improved much since my younger sister died from melanoma in 1976, but with a son in law presently dealing with the treatment for late stage colon cancer, I'd say it still can be pretty awful.

I'm speaking from personal experience.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on April 26, 2017, 07:04:43 pm
I'm speaking from personal experience.

I understand that situations and treatments are different, and that they've come very, very far in the last decades.

And I am very thankful that our son in law, now in experimental treatments because he has outlived the standard treatments, is still alive and able to teach and live a semi-normal life.  The longer he lives, the better off the world is.

I still hate cancer.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 26, 2017, 07:08:45 pm
I understand that situations and treatments are different, and that they've come very, very far in the last decades.

And I am very thankful that our son in law, now in experimental treatments because he has outlived the standard treatments, is still alive and able to teach and live a semi-normal life.  The longer he lives, the better off the world is.

I still hate cancer.  :shrug:

Now, on that last point I heartily agree!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on April 26, 2017, 07:10:23 pm
Now, on that last point I heartily agree!

I somehow knew you would.  ^-^

I'm also glad you're OK now....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on April 26, 2017, 08:22:16 pm
I'm speaking from personal experience.

Once upon a time, the only thing they could do for you if you had lung cancer and it was
too advanced to consider removing part or all of a lung was to pump your chest cavity
around the lungs with sulfa drugs. I saw my father go through it for ten months before
he died in 1966.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 26, 2017, 08:25:24 pm
Once upon a time, the only thing they could do for you if you had lung cancer and it was
too advanced to consider removing part or all of a lung was to pump your chest cavity
around the lungs with sulfa drugs. I saw my father go through it for ten months before
he died in 1966.

Sounds horrible.  And, not very effective.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on April 26, 2017, 09:57:37 pm
Jonathan Demme, Oscar-Winning Director, Is Dead at 73

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Jonathan Demme, the Oscar-winning filmmaker who observed emphatically American characters with a discerning eye, a social conscience and a rock ’n’ roll heart, achieving especially wide acclaim with “The Silence of the Lambs” and “Philadelphia,” died on Wednesday at his home in Manhattan.

He was 73.

His publicist, Leslee Dart, confirmed the death. Mr. Demme disclosed that he had cancer in 2015.

Mob wives, CB radio buffs and AIDS victims; Hannibal Lecter, Howard Hughes and Jimmy Carter: Mr. Demme (pronounced DEM-ee) plucked his subjects and stories largely from the stew of contemporary American subcultures and iconography. He created a body of work — including fiction films and documentaries, dramas and comedies, original scripts, adaptations and remakes — that resists easy characterization.
More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/movies/jonathan-demme-dead-movie-director-oscar-winner.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Demme)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001129/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 26, 2017, 11:11:06 pm
I want to correct that for those of you who may have to deal with this:  the treatment may not be very bad.  Not a fun way to spend a year, but not horrible either.

@Sanguine

And it STILL beats the hell out of dying.

Something is always better than nothing. A bit of wisdom I remind myself of more often than before,now that I am in my 7th decade of excellence.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 26, 2017, 11:39:30 pm
@Sanguine

And it STILL beats the hell out of dying.

Something is always better than nothing. A bit of wisdom I remind myself of more often than before,now that I am in my 7th decade of excellence.

That it does, Pete!  However, when it's my turn I'm happy to move on to the next plane of existence.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 26, 2017, 11:48:24 pm
That it does, Pete!  However, when it's my turn I'm happy to move on to the next plane of existence.

Just hope it isn't United airlines helping you move
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on April 26, 2017, 11:56:36 pm
Just hope it isn't United airlines helping you move

LOL.  No, I'm planning on going with a bigger line.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on April 27, 2017, 12:12:22 am
LOL.  No, I'm planning on going with a bigger line.

I don't know if I'm going with a bigger line. Prolly just stick with "Geronimo!!!"  :laugh:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 27, 2017, 09:11:47 pm
Michael Mantenuto dies at 35

Mantenuto was a college hockey player at the University of Maine. In 2004, he earned his only acting credit of note, that of USA Hockey "Miracle on Ice" team member Jack O'Callahan, in the film Miracle. After a few other bit parts, Mantenuto joined the U.S. military.

He was found dead in his car Thursday of a suspected suicide.

Obituary from Variety (http://variety.com/2017/film/news/michael-mantenuto-dead-disney-miracle-actor-1202401179/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Mantenuto)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1372838/)

Career hockey stats (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=56494)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: DCPatriot on April 27, 2017, 10:25:30 pm
@jmyrlefuller

Do you know who you look like?   Saw 'you' in Starship Troopers the other day.

You're Ace Levy  - Jake Busey

 :beer:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on April 29, 2017, 07:29:37 pm
Former Santa Clara, NBA forward Ken Sears dies at 83

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Ken Sears, an All-America basketball player for Santa Clara in the 1950s who later played eight seasons in the NBA, died Sunday in his hometown of Watsonville, the university announced Monday. He was 83.

Mr. Sears played from 1951 through ’55 for the Broncos under head coach Bob Feerick and started as a freshman on their Final Four team of 1952.

He was twice named the WCC Player of the Year, beating out USF’s Bill Russell for the honor in 1955.
More (http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Former-Santa-Clara-NBA-forward-Ken-Sears-dies-at-11095874.php)

Ken Sears dies; Santa Clara University player became NBA All-Star (http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/27/watsonvilles-ken-sears-former-nba-all-star-dies/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Sears)

NBA career stats (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/searske01.html)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on April 29, 2017, 07:38:02 pm
@Sanguine

And it STILL beats the hell out of dying.

Something is always better than nothing. A bit of wisdom I remind myself of more often than before,now that I am in my 7th decade of excellence.
h

Sometimes living is so bad that dying is preferable
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 29, 2017, 08:20:22 pm
h

Sometimes living is so bad that dying is preferable

I know you've had a rough patch recently, I hope that hasn't been crossing your mind.  You have a lot of friends here who would miss you terribly, and friends with you who would wonder if there was anything they could have done better. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on April 29, 2017, 08:34:31 pm
h

Sometimes living is so bad that dying is preferable

@Freya

Maybe,but living is a temporary thing,and dying is forever.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: montanajoe on May 01, 2017, 04:14:16 am
Sometimes living is so bad that dying is preferable

My fear, and what I'm facing is living after dementia set in.

As I have gotten older and with reflection I find I'm pretty satisfied with how I have lived..but for me dying is clearly preferable to years of dementia in diapers in a nursing home...YMMV.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 01, 2017, 04:26:00 am
My fear, and what I'm facing is living after dementia set in.

As I have gotten older and with reflection I find I'm pretty satisfied with how I have lived..but for me dying is clearly preferable to years of dementia in diapers in a nursing home...YMMV.
But you get to meet all those nice people all over again in the morning...

Seriously, I hear you.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 01, 2017, 05:57:28 am
My fear, and what I'm facing is living after dementia set in.

As I have gotten older and with reflection I find I'm pretty satisfied with how I have lived..but for me dying is clearly preferable to years of dementia in diapers in a nursing home...YMMV.

@montanajoe

A fear shared by every intelligent being.

The up side is IF that happens to you,me,or anyone else,we won't know anything about it,and we will be providing jobs for people that need them.

We all contribute on whatever level we can contribute,voluntarily or otherwise.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: montanajoe on May 01, 2017, 07:51:02 am
@montanajoe
.....
We all contribute on whatever level we can contribute,voluntarily or otherwise.

Kinda gives a whole new meaning to supply side economics :laugh:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 02, 2017, 01:03:33 am
Kinda gives a whole new meaning to supply side economics :laugh:

@montanajoe

Yeah,the airheads refer to it as "the Circle of Life".

I see it more as being in the shape of a colostomy bag,but by then you won't care. You might even say that for many folks their lives were bleep anyhow,so it's just a minor adjustment for them.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on May 02, 2017, 05:46:22 pm
Quote
Ray Perry, WWII tail gunner and father of U.S. energy chief Rick Perry, dies at 92
Written by Marc Ramirez, Dallas Morning News

Joseph "Ray" Perry, the 92-year-old father of U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry, has died.

The former World War II tail gunner served nearly 30 years as a Haskell County commissioner, the Houston Chronicle reported. For years, he and his wife operated a farm operation near rural Paint Creek, Texas, where they raised their children, including Rick, who would go on to become the state's longest-serving governor.

Continued: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2017/04/28/ray-perry-wwii-tail-gunner-father-us-energy-chief-rick-perry-dies-92
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on May 02, 2017, 06:18:35 pm
Rest in peace, Mr. Perry. 

Sad to see the heroes of the Greatest Generation are leaving us so quickly.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on May 04, 2017, 07:01:03 pm
RIP Don Gordon

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R.I.P., DON GORDON (November 13, 1926 – April 24, 2017), movie and TV character actor. He had recurring roles on THE BLUE ANGELS (1960-61), PEYTON PLACE (1966), and LUCAN (1977-78). He appeared with his friend Steve McQueen in BULLITT (1968), PAPILLON (1973) and THE TOWERING INFERNO (1974) and two episodes of WANTED: DEAD OR ALIVE.
More (http://westernboothill.blogspot.ca/2017/05/normal-0-false-false-false-en-us-x-none.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Gordon_(actor))

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0330150/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on May 04, 2017, 07:04:31 pm
From the obit add, I was guessing maybe Prince Phillip died again.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on May 04, 2017, 08:16:20 pm
Do you have Prince Phillip in a Can?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 04, 2017, 08:19:00 pm
Do you have Prince Phillip in a Can?
Might be in one of these, but they call it "the loo".

(http://toilets.xrefer.com/images/special-event-portable-toilet.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on May 05, 2017, 01:25:26 am
R.I.P. Saxa From The (English) Beat 1938-2017 (http://www.noise11.com/news/r-i-p-saxa-from-the-beat-1938-2017-20170505)

The original saxophonist for the English Beat (actually the Beat, but a U.S. band of the time known as the
Beat---and very different from the British sextet---compelled the name change for the U.S.) passed away
3 May at 87.

The English Beat, I Just Can't Stop It (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I58tsdmA5Co)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on May 07, 2017, 07:52:00 pm
Sam Mele, Major League Player, Manager and Scout, Dies at 95

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Growing up in Queens, where he played high school baseball, Sam Mele had no shortage of advice on the fine points of the game. His uncles Tony and Al Cuccinello were major league infielders, and Tony’s Brooklyn Dodgers teammate Al Lopez, who was their catcher and a future Hall of Fame manager, dropped by to give him a tip or two.

Mele became an outstanding baseball and basketball player at New York University, played for 10 seasons in the major leagues, mostly in the outfield, then managed the Minnesota Twins to the 1965 American League pennant.

He died on Monday at his home in Quincy, Mass., at 95, remembered for a baseball career spanning nearly half a century. His death was announced by his first major league team, the Boston Red Sox, with whom he had a long association.

Mele (pronounced MEE-lee) had been a coach for the original Washington Senators and their successors, the Twins, when he was named their manager in June 1961, the Twins’ first season in Minneapolis, succeeding Cookie Lavagetto.
More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/sports/baseball/sam-mele-dead-managed-twins-to-world-series.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Mele)

Manager stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/melesa01.shtml)

Player stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/melesa01.shtml)

@EasyAce
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on May 07, 2017, 08:39:39 pm
Sam Mele, Major League Player, Manager and Scout, Dies at 95
More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/sports/baseball/sam-mele-dead-managed-twins-to-world-series.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Mele)

Manager stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/melesa01.shtml)

Player stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/melesa01.shtml)

@EasyAce
@Machiavelli
1955: Sam Mele got one of the only two hits in Sandy Koufax's first major league win, against the Reds.
1965: Mele's Twins got their tails waxed by Koufax on two shutouts in the World Series.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 08, 2017, 12:10:32 am
Olympic gold medalist bobsledder Steven Holcomb found dead at 37

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Steven_Holcomb_at_2010_Winter_Olympics_2010-02-27.JPG)

Holcomb was a participant in the 2010 Winter Olympics, where he led the U.S. four-man bobsled team to its first gold medal in the sport since 1942. He then returned in 2014, earning a bronze medal for the U.S. two-man bobsled team.

Holcomb was training for the 2018 Olympics in Lake Placid where he was found dead. No cause of death was given.

Obituary from the Syracuse Post-Standard (http://www.newyorkupstate.com/lake-placid/2017/05/steven_holcomb_found_dead_in_lake_placid_bobsledder_won_3_olympic_medals.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Holcomb)

U.S. Olympic Committee bio (http://www.teamusa.org/Athletes/HO/Steven-Holcomb)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on May 08, 2017, 02:44:18 pm
Quote
Life well lived: Polio vaccine pioneer Dr. Julius Youngner dies at 96
May. 7, 2017 at 8:40 AM
TODAY

In this week’s Life Well Lived, we look back at the important research done by Dr. Julius Youngner as part of a team that developed the Salk polio vaccine in 1955. Youngner died April 27 at the age of 96.

http://www.today.com/news/life-well-lived-polio-vaccine-pioneer-dr-julius-youngner-dies-t111238

Not sure if this was listed.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Just_Victor on May 08, 2017, 07:59:30 pm
Not sure if this was listed.

My paternal grandfather died of polio in 1935, when my father was just shy of 2.  If only...

Of course part of that "if only" is that I might not exist...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on May 10, 2017, 12:10:36 pm
Richard Basciano, Times Square Pornography Magnate, Dies at 91

Richard Basciano, who fended off decades of legal challenges to preserve Show World as the last outpost of his vast New York pornographic empire, allowing him to reign for a time as the only surviving Times Square sultan of smut, died on Monday in Manhattan. He was 91.

His death was confirmed by his lawyer, Thomas A. Sprague.

A former boxer who pleaded no contest to a store coupon scam in his native Baltimore and who once peddled raunchy magazines in New York, Mr. Basciano made millions of dollars from the quarters that his customers deposited for peep shows and more interactive forms of entertainment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/06/nyregion/richard-basciano-dead-show-world-owner-in-times-square.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on May 10, 2017, 02:40:03 pm
Wife Of ESPN Broadcaster Chris Berman Dies In Crash

WOODBURY, Conn. (AP) – The wife of longtime ESPN broadcaster Chris Berman has died in a traffic crash in Connecticut.

State police say 67-year-old Katherine Ann Berman, of Cheshire, was one of two victims in the two-vehicle crash at about 2:15 p.m. Tuesday in Woodbury. The other victim was 87-year-old Edward Bertulis, of Waterbury.

ESPN President John Skipper said in a statement the death is a “devastating tragedy and difficult to comprehend” and pledged to give Chris Berman “the love and support he will surely need in this hour.”   .... More (http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/05/10/chris-berman-wife-dies/).
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on May 11, 2017, 02:42:16 am
Wife Of ESPN Broadcaster Chris Berman Dies In Crash

WOODBURY, Conn. (AP) – The wife of longtime ESPN broadcaster Chris Berman has died in a traffic crash in Connecticut.

State police say 67-year-old Katherine Ann Berman, of Cheshire, was one of two victims in the two-vehicle crash at about 2:15 p.m. Tuesday in Woodbury. The other victim was 87-year-old Edward Bertulis, of Waterbury.

ESPN President John Skipper said in a statement the death is a “devastating tragedy and difficult to comprehend” and pledged to give Chris Berman “the love and support he will surely need in this hour.”   .... More (http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/05/10/chris-berman-wife-dies/).

I just heard about this, what a shocker.

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2017/05/10/chris-berman's-wife-dies-car-accident/101510074/

My condolences.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on May 12, 2017, 04:44:48 pm
Medal of Honor recipient whose WWII heroism went 'beyond call of duty' dies

A Medal of Honor recipient and World War II veteran, who was hailed a hero for almost single-handedly holding off counter attacks by elite German troops, died on Tuesday in Washington State.

Wilburn K. Ross, who was originally from Kentucky, was 94.

Ross was awarded the Medal of Honor on April 23, 1945 for his actions that went “beyond the call of duty” near St. Jacques, France six months earlier, according to his Medal  of Honor citation.

The day of the attack, Ross, then a 22-year-old Army Private in Company G, 30th Infantry Regiment, 3d Infantry Division, placed his light machine gun 30 feet away from German troops to absorb an enemy counterattack. His company had lost 55 out of 88 men, but instead of retreating, the machine gunner stood his ground – even as bullets flew in his direction and a German soldier crawled toward him with a hand grenade.

[excerpted]
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/12/medal-honor-recipient-whose-wwii-heroism-went-beyond-call-duty-dies.html

Quote
RIP to a true hero.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 12, 2017, 05:04:33 pm
Yes, RIP.  :patriot:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on May 12, 2017, 05:07:51 pm
Rest in peace.   

I don't suppose the delicate snowflakes we have marching on college campuses over every little perceived offense would have the guts Mr. Ross had. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 12, 2017, 05:47:44 pm
RIP Mr. Ross.  :patriot:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 12, 2017, 06:13:23 pm
Rest in peace.   

I don't suppose the delicate snowflakes we have marching on college campuses over every little perceived offense would have the guts Mr. Ross had.

@Applewood

Some might surprise you,as well as themselves. I once knew a quiet and shy E-4 teletype operator in a signal company with the first name of "Stanley" of all things,and his personality seemed to fit his name. Quiet guy that was friendly with everyone and who never caused anyone any problems and never bitched about anything.

He just happened to be on duty in a communications center in a classified compound on the outskirts of Saigon on Tet of 1968. When the NVA started to overrun the compound Stanley decided he had no choice but to pick up a M-16 and go to war. When the day ended he had earned a Silver Star and 2 Purple Hearts. He also learned that he belonged in a line company,not a Signal Company. His true nature was as a combat leader,and even he didn't know it until that day.

The last time I saw him he was a VERY respected E-6 in a SF special projects operation,training new troops and leading small teams on classified missions.

Stanley was challenged unexpectedly,and rose to the challenge. In doing so,he found his true self as a natural warrior.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on May 12, 2017, 06:27:39 pm
@Applewood

Some might surprise you,as well as themselves. I once knew a quiet and shy E-4 teletype operator in a signal company with the first name of "Stanley" of all things,and his personality seemed to fit his name. Quiet guy that was friendly with everyone and who never caused anyone any problems and never bitched about anything.

He just happened to be on duty in a communications center in a classified compound on the outskirts of Saigon on Tet of 1968. When the NVA started to overrun the compound Stanley decided he had no choice but to pick up a M-16 and go to war. When the day ended he had earned a Silver Star and 2 Purple Hearts. He also learned that he belonged in a line company,not a Signal Company. His true nature was as a combat leader,and even he didn't know it until that day.

The last time I saw him he was a VERY respected E-6 in a SF special projects operation,training new troops and leading small teams on classified missions.

Stanley was challenged unexpectedly,and rose to the challenge. In doing so,he found his true self as a natural warrior.

I agree with you, Pete.  Our snowflakes are what they are because they've been coddled and never challenged.  Who knows what they will do when confronted by real life?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on May 12, 2017, 06:43:52 pm
Yale Lary, 1930-2017

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Pro Football Hall of Fame safety Yale Lary passed away in the early hours on Friday at the age of 86. The Texas A&M product was a fixture in the Detroit Lions secondary during an 11-year career (1952-53, 1956-1964) that was interrupted by his service in the U.S. Army.
More (http://www.profootballhof.com/yale-lary-1930-2017/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_Lary)

Career stats (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LaryYa00.htm)

Pro Football Hall of Fame page (http://www.profootballhof.com/players/yale-lary/)

@Bender2
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on May 12, 2017, 06:55:28 pm
I agree with you, Pete.  Our snowflakes are what they are because they've been coddled and never challenged.  Who knows what they will do when confronted by real life?

Or real death.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 12, 2017, 08:34:33 pm
I agree with you, Pete.  Our snowflakes are what they are because they've been coddled and never challenged.  Who knows what they will do when confronted by real life?

@Sanguine

And who knows what fields or careers they may have excelled in if not sheltered all their lives,and they had gone out into the world away from family and friends to experience "life in the raw"?

None of has any idea at all of the things we may be gifted at doing,or interested in to the point of expanding our horizons if we are never exposed to them?

I bet most people would be surprised at the high percentage of combat arms NCO's and Officers that retire from the military and go into teaching. If they hadn't been NCO's or Officers in the military,chances are they would have never been put in positions to formally teach anything,but they were forced to do it and then learned they loved teaching. Teaching is a key part of leadership,and nobody that spends a career in the military escapes unscathed by it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 12, 2017, 08:37:31 pm
Or real death.

@bigheadfred

Yeah,facing your own morality and learning to accept you are NOT a special little snowflake who is going to live forever is a big step. A big part of that is learning to accept that you are NOT "special" no matter what your mama has always taught you. You are nothing more than a bag of blood and air just like everyone else,and when the blood and air runs out so do you. It's a pretty big realization to become accustomed too accepting. So big some people never make it,and they spend their entire lives living in fear of dying instead of experiencing the joys of life and living it.

I would personally prefer to look back on a life of excitement,adventure,mystery,accomplishments,and pure joy as I lay dying,than a life  full of regrets because I feared dying so much it resulted in me being afraid to live it to it's fullest.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on May 12, 2017, 08:59:29 pm
@bigheadfred

Yeah,facing your own morality and learning to accept you are NOT a special little snowflake who is going to live forever is a big step. A big part of that is learning to accept that you are NOT "special" no matter what your mama has always taught you. You are nothing more than a bag of blood and air just like everyone else,and when the blood and air runs out so do you. It's a pretty big realization to become accustomed too accepting. So big some people never make it,and they spend their entire lives living in fear of dying instead of experiencing the joys of life and living it.

I would personally prefer to look back on a life of excitement,adventure,mystery,accomplishments,and pure joy as I lay dying,than a life  full of regrets because I feared dying so much it resulted in me being afraid to live it to it's fullest.

Me, too. I have to wonder about some of these kids. Playing violence themed video games. If put to it, they may be some of the most remorseless, merciless killers the world has ever seen. Turn it off and go into "game" mode. Desensitized to a degree.

I was handed something I didn't want. Been hell to try and overcome. Never really will. There is some regret there. From unfinished business.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 12, 2017, 09:07:44 pm
Me, too. I have to wonder about some of these kids. Playing violence themed video games. If put to it, they may be some of the most remorseless, merciless killers the world has ever seen. Turn it off and go into "game" mode. Desensitized to a degree.

I was handed something I didn't want. Been hell to try and overcome. Never really will. There is some regret there. From unfinished business.

We're all glad to see you make it through that, Fred.  I assume you're talking about that little deal you had to fight last year.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on May 12, 2017, 09:50:40 pm
We're all glad to see you make it through that, Fred.  I assume you're talking about that little deal you had to fight last year.

No, Cyber, that isn't it. It was from 20 years ago. Or 15. Or 6. Depends on how you look at it, I guess. I'll tell you if you want to. But then you all may never want to talk to me again.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 12, 2017, 10:09:46 pm
Me, too. I have to wonder about some of these kids. Playing violence themed video games. If put to it, they may be some of the most remorseless, merciless killers the world has ever seen. Turn it off and go into "game" mode. Desensitized to a degree.

I was handed something I didn't want. Been hell to try and overcome. Never really will. There is some regret there. From unfinished business.

@bigheadfred

Fred,you just never know. The odds of them totally panicking and collapsing in fear at dealing with the reality of actual combat and spilled blood  probably matches them turning stone psycho killer.

Unless of course they are doing something like flying a drone,a bomber,firing a missile,or any other "long distance killing that isn't really combat". Combat gets real when you can smell the blood and hear the screams. Not so sure those digitial demons will be able to deal with actually "being there". Most people seem to be able to deal with it and dismiss it as a sort of "then and now" phenomenon,but a very tiny fraction really get into the "teeth,hair,eyballs" thing. Most of those people don't last long because they are fearless. They are adrenaline junkies who just can't resist popping their heads up to look around at the wrong time. They don't get off on the killing so much as they get off on the danger and the adrenaline rush.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 12, 2017, 10:22:13 pm
No, Cyber, that isn't it. It was from 20 years ago. Or 15. Or 6. Depends on how you look at it, I guess. I'll tell you if you want to. But then you all may never want to talk to me again.

@bigheadfred

Fred,I ain't no shrink and I don't even play one on teebee,but MY best advice to you is to keep that stuff to yourself until you have reached the point where you can take a dispassionate view of it,and learn how to forgive yourself. This is something you obviously haven't done yet or you wouldn't be worried about people no longer talking to you if you reveal it.

Learn to accept that we all go through stages in life,and that as we mature and go about the business of living,we become different people than we used to be. Usually BETTER people than we used to be. I don't know you but I SUSPECT you are now a better or more moral man in some big respects than you were earlier. What you still need to learn and accept is that the man who did things you now find shameful no longer exists. The proof of this is that you now feel shamed by what THAT "you" did or said. You have grown since then and morphed into the man you are today. The man you are today recognizes his earlier mistakes,and has learned from them.

None of us are one-dimensional people even though we generally show only the public side of our personalities to the public. Like all humans,you have flaws and you have made mistakes. Accept your mistakes,recognize them for the mistakes they were,and also accept the fact they are in the past and you are no longer the same man you were when you made them.

Once you learn to forgive your former self,your life can become whole again. The past is in the past. It's done and there is nothing you can do or say to change it. Let it stay there where it belongs and work for a healthy and happy future.

My 2 cents,and worth every penny you paid for it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 12, 2017, 10:27:11 pm
@bigheadfred

Fred,I ain't no shrink and I don't even play one on teebee,but MY best advice to you is to keep that stuff to yourself until you have reached the point where you can take a dispassionate view of it,and learn how to forgive yourself. This is something you obviously haven't done yet or you wouldn't be worried about people no longer talking to you if you reveal it.

Learn to accept that we all go through stages in life,and that as we mature and go about the business of living,we become different people than we used to be. Usually BETTER people than we used to be. I don't know you but I SUSPECT you are now a better or more moral man in some big respects than you were earlier. What you still need to learn and accept is that the man who did things you now find shameful no longer exists. The proof of this is that you now feel shamed by what THAT "you" did or said. You have grown since then and morphed into the man you are today. The man you are today recognizes his earlier mistakes,and has learned from them.

None of us are one-dimensional people even though we generally show only the public side of our personalities to the public. Like all humans,you have flaws and you have made mistakes. Accept your mistakes,recognize them for the mistakes they were,and also accept the fact they are in the past and you are no longer the same man you were when you made them.

Once you learn to forgive your former self,your life can become whole again. The past is in the past. It's done and there is nothing you can do or say to change it. Let it stay there where it belongs and work for a healthy and happy future.

My 2 cents,and worth every penny you paid for it.
Stellar advice, there, Pete. Kudos.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 12, 2017, 10:31:39 pm
@bigheadfred

Fred,I ain't no shrink and I don't even play one on teebee,but MY best advice to you is to keep that stuff to yourself until you have reached the point where you can take a dispassionate view of it,and learn how to forgive yourself. This is something you obviously haven't done yet or you wouldn't be worried about people no longer talking to you if you reveal it.

My 2 cents,and worth every penny you paid for it.

@bigheadfred , you're an old friend whom I could never get mad at for any transgression, and you can PM me anything you want, any time.  Meanwhile, when it comes to what you say out here, Pete's a good guy to listen to.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on May 12, 2017, 10:34:56 pm
Do NOT mistake this. I don't need to forgive myself. And I will NEVER forgive THEM. It didn't have to be that way. It SHOULDN'T have been that way.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on May 12, 2017, 10:41:57 pm
@bigheadfred , you're an old friend whom I could never get mad at for any transgression, and you can PM me anything you want, any time.  Meanwhile, when it comes to what you say out here, Pete's a good guy to listen to.

I'll tell you. PM.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on May 12, 2017, 10:58:15 pm
I'll tell you. PM.

Fred, you and I talked about this a long time ago (TOS) and I didn't quit talking to you.  It's water under a big bridge.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 12, 2017, 11:11:03 pm
Do NOT mistake this. I don't need to forgive myself. And I will NEVER forgive THEM. It didn't have to be that way. It SHOULDN'T have been that way.
We all end up in situations like that. Their choice. It isn't fair that you get put in a situation, nor that you do what you must to survive it (and I don't know the details).

But at some point, let it go. The Creator has a way of settling scores and fixing things we can't imagine, and besides, that stuff will eat you from the inside out if you let it. Don't let it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on May 13, 2017, 12:10:34 am
We all end up in situations like that. Their choice. It isn't fair that you get put in a situation, nor that you do what you must to survive it (and I don't know the details).

But at some point, let it go. The Creator has a way of settling scores and fixing things we can't imagine, and besides, that stuff will eat you from the inside out if you let it. Don't let it.

It was that disease, Joe. That was eating me up inside. And last fall when I thought I was done, yeah, there was bitterness. I will send you the message I sent Cyber, if you want to know.

And the creator HAS exacted some karma.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 13, 2017, 12:11:26 am
Do NOT mistake this. I don't need to forgive myself. And I will NEVER forgive THEM. It didn't have to be that way. It SHOULDN'T have been that way.

@bigheadfred

Fred,ask yourself."Who does this hurt the most?

I suspect you will discover the answer is "Fred". You have to let that anger go for your own good.  If you really want to hurt them,living well and living happy is the best revenge in the world. If they hate you and are glad they caused you problems,seeing you drop your anger and become happy will have them eating their own livers.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 13, 2017, 12:17:50 am
It was that disease, Joe. That was eating me up inside. And last fall when I thought I was done, yeah, there was bitterness. I will send you the message I sent Cyber, if you want to know.

It's OK, go ahead, I read it.  Joe's a really good guy, I can vouch for him.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 13, 2017, 01:11:35 am
It was that disease, Joe. That was eating me up inside. And last fall when I thought I was done, yeah, there was bitterness. I will send you the message I sent Cyber, if you want to know.

And the creator HAS exacted some karma.
Please do. The better we understand one another around here, the better we can discuss things.
He does take care of business...most creatively at times.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on May 13, 2017, 01:41:58 am
@bigheadfred

Fred,I ain't no shrink and I don't even play one on teebee,but MY best advice to you is to keep that stuff to yourself until you have reached the point where you can take a dispassionate view of it,and learn how to forgive yourself. This is something you obviously haven't done yet or you wouldn't be worried about people no longer talking to you if you reveal it.

Learn to accept that we all go through stages in life,and that as we mature and go about the business of living,we become different people than we used to be. Usually BETTER people than we used to be. I don't know you but I SUSPECT you are now a better or more moral man in some big respects than you were earlier. What you still need to learn and accept is that the man who did things you now find shameful no longer exists. The proof of this is that you now feel shamed by what THAT "you" did or said. You have grown since then and morphed into the man you are today. The man you are today recognizes his earlier mistakes,and has learned from them.

None of us are one-dimensional people even though we generally show only the public side of our personalities to the public. Like all humans,you have flaws and you have made mistakes. Accept your mistakes,recognize them for the mistakes they were,and also accept the fact they are in the past and you are no longer the same man you were when you made them.

Once you learn to forgive your former self,your life can become whole again. The past is in the past. It's done and there is nothing you can do or say to change it. Let it stay there where it belongs and work for a healthy and happy future.

My 2 cents,and worth every penny you paid for it.
@sneakypete
 :amen:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 13, 2017, 11:35:32 am
It's OK, go ahead, I read it.  Joe's a really good guy, I can vouch for him.

I like everyone here.   I'm truly sorry for the pain on the above messages. They say pain helps us grow. I've had horrible things happen to me, things I wouldn't wish on any woman or anyone, and I've had a near death experience and it's all supposed to make you stronger but I call BS sometimes it just hurts like hell.

Bless everyone here and I hope you alll never experience those dark times again.

Amen.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 13, 2017, 02:01:55 pm
@bigheadfred

Fred,ask yourself."Who does this hurt the most?

I suspect you will discover the answer is "Fred". You have to let that anger go for your own good.  If you really want to hurt them,living well and living happy is the best revenge in the world. If they hate you and are glad they caused you problems,seeing you drop your anger and become happy will have them eating their own livers.
Outstanding advice.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on May 14, 2017, 10:52:15 pm
RIP former MLB umpire Steve Palermo, one of the good guys on and off the field. He showed guts
and soul by not letting his waist-down paralysis from a 1991 gunshot stop him from serving as an
umpire supervisor or managing to walk somehow with a cane and a leg brace. (He threw out the first
pitch of the 1991 World Series.)

Steve Palermo, shot in '91 trying to break up robbery, dies at 67 (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19383354/former-mlb-umpire-steve-palermo-passes-away-67)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 15, 2017, 11:15:22 am
Actor Powers Boothe dies at 68

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Powers-boothe-zumawirewestphotos963564.jpg)

The character actor died at 68 in his sleep May 14 of unknown causes.

Entertainment Weekly obit (http://ew.com/movies/2017/05/14/powers-boothe-dead/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_Boothe)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000959/)

Boothe's Emmy-award winning performance as Jim Jones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRfDE9bndfg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrEwCa8nSA
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on May 15, 2017, 11:21:34 am
Actor Powers Boothe dies at 68



CRAP!!!!!!!!!

Performance in Hatfields v. McCoys  was outstanding, Too bad Costner and Paxton got most of the recognition.

So many other performances too.  Sad Sad day.

Well Bye.....   Mr. Boothe.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on May 15, 2017, 02:55:13 pm
From the original Red Dawn (1984):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qc8jJ0TjSY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qc8jJ0TjSY)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on May 15, 2017, 03:04:43 pm
Boothe was scary as Jim Jones. 

Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: DCPatriot on May 15, 2017, 03:30:59 pm
CRAP!!!!!!!!!

Performance in Hatfields v. McCoys  was outstanding, Too bad Costner and Paxton got most of the recognition.

So many other performances too.  Sad Sad day.

Well Bye.....   Mr. Boothe.

I'll second that!    :beer:

Pretty good in DEADWOOD, too!   Anybody that that hold their own opposite Ian McShane in a scene....I'll drink to that, too!    :beer:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on May 15, 2017, 03:47:03 pm
Actor Powers Boothe dies at 68

Excellent write-up, @jmyrlefuller

I'm stealing it.  :laugh:

(http://i.imgur.com/5RQVtvf.gif)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 15, 2017, 05:34:37 pm
Excellent write-up, @jmyrlefuller

I'm stealing it.  :laugh:

(http://i.imgur.com/5RQVtvf.gif)
  :laugh: Well, I figured I'd just let his acting speak for itself.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 15, 2017, 05:48:26 pm
Former Paramount CEO Brad Grey Dies at 59

Grey began his career as a concert promoter and talent scout in his native Buffalo, New York under Harvey Weinstein in the early 1980s; in this capacity, he discovered Bob Saget. He then partnered with Bernie Brillstein and entered television. Among Grey's television productions, both with and without Brillstein, included It's Garry Shandling's Show, The Larry Sanders Show (Grey and Garry Shandling did have a contentious relationship that resulted in lawsuits between the two), the Bill Maher series Politically Incorrect and Real Time, HBO hits The Sopranos and Mr. Show with Bob and David, and NBC hits NewsRadio and Just Shoot Me!.

From 2005 until being ousted shortly before his death, Grey was head of Paramount Pictures, overseeing the company's numerous feature films. Although generally both critically and commercially successful, Grey was fired after a string of flops that cost the company nearly a half-billion dollars. His tenuous relationship with DreamWorks animation was typical; after striking a merger deal in 2005, the company broke off in 2008 and severed all remaining ties with Paramount in 2012.

Grey died at home of cancer May 14.

Obituary from Variety (http://variety.com/2017/film/news/brad-grey-dead-paramount-1202426862/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Grey)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0340522/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 15, 2017, 06:40:33 pm
Actor Powers Boothe dies at 68

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Powers-boothe-zumawirewestphotos963564.jpg)

The character actor died at 68 in his sleep May 14 of unknown causes.

Entertainment Weekly obit (http://ew.com/movies/2017/05/14/powers-boothe-dead/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_Boothe)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000959/)

Boothe's Emmy-award winning performance as Jim Jones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRfDE9bndfg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrEwCa8nSA

@jmyrlefuller

I heard on tv that he "died of natural causes".

I was surprised to hear he was only 68. He must have been one of those guys that always looked older than he really was.

Good actor,though,
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on May 15, 2017, 07:51:47 pm
@jmyrlefuller



Good actor,though,

(http://deadwoodchronicles.com/protect/images/DeadwoodS1/Ep05/Ep05-Al-Cy.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 15, 2017, 10:16:25 pm
Ladies, and gentlemen, finally one that should well, umm, someone new has entered Hades tonight.

Moors Murderer Ian Brady, who killed five children with Myra Hindley, has died aged 79.

A Mersey Care NHS Foundation Trust spokesman said: "We can confirm a 79-year-old patient in long term care at Ashworth High Secure Hospital has died after becoming physically unwell."

Brady was jailed for three murders in 1966 and later confessed to two more.

He had been held at Ashworth Hospital, a secure psychiatric unit in Merseyside, since 1985.

Notorious murderer who refused to show remorse

Brady had been on successive hunger strikes since 1999 arguing he should be allowed to die, but had been force-fed because he was considered mentally ill.

He campaigned for several years to be moved from Ashworth to a Scottish prison, where he would not be force-fed and be allowed to die if he wished.

Brady and Hindley, who died in prison in 2002, tortured and murdered five children in the 1960s in crimes that shocked the nation.

Four of the victims were buried on Saddleworth Moor, near Oldham, Greater Manchester.

Brady was jailed in 1966 for the killings of 12-year-old John Kilbride, Lesley Ann Downey, aged 10, and Edward Evans, 17.

Almost 20 years later, in 1985, he admitted the murders of Pauline Reade, 16, and Keith Bennett, who was 12.

Brady has never revealed where Keith Bennett's remains were buried, despite numerous appeals for him to do so.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-39929538

ping @EC
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 15, 2017, 10:17:33 pm
@jmyrlefuller

I heard on tv that he "died of natural causes".

I was surprised to hear he was only 68. He must have been one of those guys that always looked older than he really was.
68 is an awfully young age to die of "natural causes" without some underlying condition, hence why I listed it as "unknown."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 16, 2017, 12:23:04 am
(http://deadwoodchronicles.com/protect/images/DeadwoodS1/Ep05/Ep05-Al-Cy.jpg)

@catfish1957

Any of you who haven't seen Deadwood yet owe it to yourselves to correct that error right away.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on May 16, 2017, 12:29:29 am
@catfish1957

Any of you who haven't seen Deadwood yet owe it to yourselves to correct that error right away.

Amen.  If there was one show in TV history that wrongfully cancelled it was that one.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 16, 2017, 01:36:38 am
Amen.  If there was one show in TV history that wrongfully cancelled it was that one.

@catfish1957

It wasn't cancelled. The show was about real people and the life and times of Deadwood as statehood approached statehood. Once they told the story they had nothing more to say.

BTW,the financial records of that whorehouse/saloon/gambling hall are still available,and show that on ONE Friday night in the late 1800's they took in a little more than 5 grand. Ponder on that figure in 2017 dollars for a few moments.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on May 16, 2017, 01:52:58 am
@catfish1957

It wasn't cancelled. The show was about real people and the life and times of Deadwood as statehood approached statehood. Once they told the story they had nothing more to say.



I thought I read that a season four was planned but shelved.  End of Season 3 sure wasn't set like a series finale.  Let me check further.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on May 16, 2017, 01:55:06 am
@catfish1957

It wasn't cancelled. The show was about real people and the life and times of Deadwood as statehood approached statehood. Once they told the story they had nothing more to say.



More details of the cancellation.

http://movieweb.com/deadwood-season-4-dayton-callie/ (http://movieweb.com/deadwood-season-4-dayton-callie/)

And with no Cy Tolliver, there won't be any chance at all.  Irreplaceable, just like Sweargin
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 16, 2017, 02:17:38 am
More details of the cancellation.

http://movieweb.com/deadwood-season-4-dayton-callie/ (http://movieweb.com/deadwood-season-4-dayton-callie/)

And with no Cy Tolliver, there won't be any chance at all.  Irreplaceable, just like Sweargin

@catfish1957

I stand corrected. Thank you.

I guess season 4 was supposed to be the wrap up,explaining what happened to all the major characters.

BTW,if you liked Deadwood,you would also enjoy Lonesome Dove.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on May 16, 2017, 02:26:35 am
@catfish1957

I stand corrected. Thank you.

I guess season 4 was supposed to be the wrap up,explaining what happened to all the major characters.

BTW,if you liked Deadwood,you would also enjoy Lonesome Dove.


@sneakypete

...and cheap Ass HBO deciding to deep 6 a work of art for cost.

Lonesome Dove?

Love most any historical based movie/TV, and that one is a gem.  Add Duvall to it, and it is double gold.

Did you watch the prequel series?   Not near as good acting wise, but gave a good base to establish the characters.

And btw, if you are in to historical shows, I started a thread this morning about a show on now called Lost Kingdom.  2 Season so far., with season 1 through the BBC, and Netflix taking over for Season 2.  It's about 8th century Britain in King Alfred's era.  IMO well worth a look.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on May 16, 2017, 02:46:40 am
Actor Powers Boothe dies at 68

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Powers-boothe-zumawirewestphotos963564.jpg)

The character actor died at 68 in his sleep May 14 of unknown causes.

We all know how Powers died.....being too effen cool for school. Every roll he did was awesome.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2c/0a/39/2c0a394209284dc06a11f62454da69bf.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on May 16, 2017, 02:55:29 am
We all know how Powers died.....being too effen cool for school. Every roll he did was awesome.



Y'all don't come back now , ya hear?

Berenger, Costner, and Boothe.  Awesome.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/63/de/2e/63de2e8e04c9bf9cd18cdec4e9dc2226.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 18, 2017, 10:51:52 am
Chris Cornell, lead singer of Soundgarden, dies at 52

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAfpuiDZV_c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QU1nvuxaMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVXIK1xCRpY


Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 18, 2017, 11:40:35 am
Grunge singer-songwriter Chris Cornell, of Soundgarden and Audioslave fame, dies at 52

Cornell, originally from Seattle, was one of the earliest musicians to embrace grunge, the style of rock that would come to the forefront in the 1990s. He was a founding member of Soundgarden when it formed in 1984, initially as drummer before switching to vocals. The band's success became incrementally more successful as grunge entered the mainstream until, in 1994, their best-known album Superunknown was released. The band broke up in 1997, eventually reuniting in 2010.

Four years after the breakup, Cornell joined the remains of Rage Against the Machine, which renamed itself Audioslave upon his arrival. With Cornell as both lead singer and primary lyricist, Audioslave performed and recorded as a band until 2007. Cornell also performed as a solo artist throughout his career.

Cornell died suddenly while on tour with Soundgarden; no cause of death was stated. He had a history of drug and alcohol abuse.

Obituary from the Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/chris-cornell-dead-soundgarden-audioslave-aged-52-a7742046.html)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Cornell)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 18, 2017, 11:54:29 am
Cornell was probably the best of the singers to come out of the grunge era. Last I knew he was clean saying he had found salvation in God and his little girl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fMU7PCZe2M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c49F6578d78
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on May 18, 2017, 12:08:49 pm
A shame.  So young.  It's possible that Cornell was clean and sober, but he was at a prime age for heart disease.  Even if he had been off drugs for years, the damage to his heart might already have been done.  Anyway, I guess we won't know until after the autopsy. 

Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on May 18, 2017, 12:33:40 pm
Roger Ailes Dead - Drudge Report

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Statement from Elizabeth Ailes:

I am profoundly sad and heartbroken to report that my husband, Roger Ailes, passed away this morning. Roger was a loving husband to me, to his son Zachary, and a loyal friend to many. He was also a patriot, profoundly grateful to live in a country that gave him so much opportunity to work hard, to rise—and to give back. During a career that stretched over more than five decades, his work in entertainment, in politics, and in news affected the lives of many millions. And so even as we mourn his death, we celebrate his life...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on May 18, 2017, 12:35:08 pm
Roger Ailes Dead - Drudge Report

I imagine all the excitement of the past year got bit much for his ticker.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: txradioguy on May 18, 2017, 01:05:43 pm
I imagine all the excitement of the past year got bit much for his ticker.

He has a son that IIRC is 12 or 13...maybe a little older.  He must be really hurting right now.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 18, 2017, 01:23:11 pm
He has a son that IIRC is 12 or 13...maybe a little older.  He must be really hurting right now.
Yep, prayers for the family, especially the kid.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on May 18, 2017, 01:38:40 pm
A shame.  So young.  It's possible that Cornell was clean and sober, but he was at a prime age for heart disease.  Even if he had been off drugs for years, the damage to his heart might already have been done.  Anyway, I guess we won't know until after the autopsy. 

Rest in peace.

I've heard suicide is suspected. I hope not.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 18, 2017, 01:46:54 pm
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/soundgarden-singer-chris-cornell-dies-at-age-52-in-detroit/ar-BBBgiXT?OCID=ansmsnnews11

Detroit police spokesman Michael Woody told AP Thursday morning that he couldn’t release details about why police are investigating the death as a possible suicide, but noted there were “basic things observed at the scene.”

Cornell died at the MGM Grand Detroit hotel, Woody said. He said Cornell’s wife had called a family friend and asked him to check on Cornell; the friend forced open a hotel room door and found Cornell on the bathroom floor.


Sounds like suicide. The fact that his wife asked someone to check on him suggests that suicide was an ongoing concern.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 18, 2017, 01:56:09 pm
Video from last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgWDVhQzaXo

Studio version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbckIuT_YDc

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 18, 2017, 05:55:50 pm
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/soundgarden-singer-chris-cornell-dies-at-age-52-in-detroit/ar-BBBgiXT?OCID=ansmsnnews11

Detroit police spokesman Michael Woody told AP Thursday morning that he couldn’t release details about why police are investigating the death as a possible suicide, but noted there were “basic things observed at the scene.”

Cornell died at the MGM Grand Detroit hotel, Woody said. He said Cornell’s wife had called a family friend and asked him to check on Cornell; the friend forced open a hotel room door and found Cornell on the bathroom floor.


Sounds like suicide. The fact that his wife asked someone to check on him suggests that suicide was an ongoing concern.

I'm getting news alerts now that it was ruled a suicide. Not familiar with this band, but I wish him peace.

http://news.sky.com/story/soundgarden-singer-chris-cornell-killed-himself-10883262
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 18, 2017, 05:59:43 pm
I'm getting news alerts now that it was ruled a suicide. Not familiar with this band, but I wish him peace.

http://news.sky.com/story/soundgarden-singer-chris-cornell-killed-himself-10883262

Cornell was one of those guys who had actual talent.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on May 18, 2017, 07:07:43 pm
The Latest: Autopsy: Cornell Killed Himself by Hanging

https://www.usnews.com/news/entertainment/articles/2017-05-18/the-latest-police-chris-cornells-death-a-possible-suicide
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 18, 2017, 07:17:23 pm
The Latest: Autopsy: Cornell Killed Himself by Hanging

https://www.usnews.com/news/entertainment/articles/2017-05-18/the-latest-police-chris-cornells-death-a-possible-suicide

Its unfortunate but a lot of the greatest artistic talent seems to spring forth from emotional pain.

Its why I'm glad I chose photography as my artistic outlet. Its about what is visible rather than hidden.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 18, 2017, 07:22:31 pm
I did love Cornell's singing. He could really belt it out.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 18, 2017, 08:02:29 pm
Its unfortunate but a lot of the greatest artistic talent seems to spring forth from emotional pain.

Its why I'm glad I chose photography as my artistic outlet. Its about what is visible rather than hidden.

This is a beautiful and true statement. Lovely stated.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 18, 2017, 08:15:12 pm
This is a beautiful and true statement. Lovely stated.

It sure is, and @Cripplecreek's work is most excellent.  I consider myself fortunate because I have no artistic talent whatsoever, so I'm blissfully unaware of what it's like.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 18, 2017, 08:23:29 pm
It sure is, and @Cripplecreek's work is most excellent.  I consider myself fortunate because I have no artistic talent whatsoever, so I'm blissfully unaware of what it's like.   :shrug:

Churchill's "black dog" can be considered a gift or a curse. It truly does make you see the world differently, more creatively but the downside can destroy you. Modern meds can even everything out but they rob your personality. It's a double edged sword.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 18, 2017, 08:34:41 pm
Churchill's "black dog" can be considered a gift or a curse. It truly does make you see the world differently, more creatively but the downside can destroy you. Modern meds can even everything out but they rob your personality. It's a double edged sword.
Genius of any kind pays a price just for being.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on May 18, 2017, 11:43:54 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC5FdFlUcl0
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on May 18, 2017, 11:45:11 pm
Someone kills the pain.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: chae on May 18, 2017, 11:51:10 pm
I had tickets to see him play next Saturday.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 19, 2017, 01:41:57 am
Even though it's pure commie screed, love Cornell's soaring backup vocals to Vedder's lead in this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmWJ_nGzSME
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on May 19, 2017, 02:38:46 am
Even though it's pure commie screed, love Cornell's soaring backup vocals to Vedder's lead in this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmWJ_nGzSME

I like that song.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 19, 2017, 07:22:14 pm
Chris Cornell's final song.

In My Time Of Dying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg7qw31xeXk
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on May 19, 2017, 07:30:29 pm


In My Time Of Dying



Wow, thats the 3rd version of that song I've seen, and I don't think I have ever head one tune done so differently by three diff. acts (Add Dylan and Zep)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 19, 2017, 07:37:33 pm
Wow, thats the 3rd version of that song I've seen, and I don't think I have ever head one tune done so differently by three diff. acts (Add Dylan and Zep)

Cornell had obviously already made his decision.

In my time of dying, want nobody to mourn
All I want for you to do is take my body home

Well, well, well, so I can die easy
Well, well, well, so I can die easy

Jesus, gonna make up/out siviers
Jesus, gonna make up my dyin' bed
Meet me, Jesus, meet me
Oh meet me in the middle of the air
If my wings should fail me, Lord
Oh please meet me with another pair

Well, well, well, so I can die easy
Well, well, well, so I can die easy

Jesus, gonna make up
Somebody, somebody
Oh, oh Jesus gonna make up
Jesus gonna make you my dyin' bed

Oh, Saint Peter, at the gates of heaven
Won't you let me in
I never did no harm
I never did no wrong

Oh, Gabriel, let me blow your horn
Let me blow your horn
Oh, I never did, did no harm

I've only been this young once
I never thought I'd do anybody no wrong
No, not once

Oh, I did somebody some good
Somebody some good yeah
Oh, did somebody some good yeah
I must have did somebody some good yeah
Oh I believe I did

I see the smiling faces
I know I must have left some traces

And I see them in the streets
And I see them in the field
And I hear them shouting under my feet
And I know it's got to be real
Oh, Lord, deliver me
All the wrong I've done
You can deliver me, Lord
I only wanted to have some fun

Hear the angels marchin'
Hear the' marchin', hear them marchin'
Hear them marchin', the' marchin'

(Oh my Jesus)
It's got to be my Jesus
Oh, it's got to be, it's got to be my Jesus
it's got to be my oh
it's got to be my Jesus
Oh take me home
Come on, come on I can hear the answer, sing it
Oh, here they come
Here they come
Here they come
Bye-bye
Bye-bye
Bye-bye
Bye-bye
Bye-bye
Oh, feels pretty good, don't you?
Pretty good, I feel
(Oh, Georgina)

(Oh)
Oh, yeah
Oh, I see him
Come on
(Take it)

Oh, don't you make it my dyin', dyin', dyin'
Cough, "that's gonna be the one, isn't it?"
"Come have a listen, then"
Oh yes, thank you

Songwriters: BOB DYLAN
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 19, 2017, 07:59:57 pm
That's a common effect the Psychs have noted about suicidal people.  They always have a marked change in their disposition before they do it, and it's usually seen by others around them as a very positive change.  They've made the decision, and as a result they become more positive in their general outlook on life.

It's a paradox.

@Victoria33, do you have an opinion?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on May 19, 2017, 08:11:30 pm
That's a common effect the Psychs have noted about suicidal people.  They always have a marked change in their disposition before they do it, and it's usually seen by others around them as a very positive change.  They've made the decision, and as a result they become more positive in their general outlook on life.

It's a paradox.

@Victoria33, do you have an opinion?

They also tend to do it when the anti-depressants kick in because they begin to feel good enough to do something at that point.  If they can ride it out a little longer, they can get beyond the "too depressed to live, but feel good enough to kill myself" point.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 19, 2017, 08:39:35 pm
That's a common effect the Psychs have noted about suicidal people.  They always have a marked change in their disposition before they do it, and it's usually seen by others around them as a very positive change.  They've made the decision, and as a result they become more positive in their general outlook on life.

It's a paradox.
I think it may have something to do with regaining control.

To get to suicide, things usually must progress to the point of hopelessness. The idea of killing oneself, bringing an end to everything by one's own hand, is empowering if one believes that life on the whole is more bad than good. It brings this perverse sense of hope, that nonexistence is more pleasant than the current.

As the song goes:

"But suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please"
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 19, 2017, 09:22:37 pm
They also tend to do it when the anti-depressants kick in because they begin to feel good enough to do something at that point.  If they can ride it out a little longer, they can get beyond the "too depressed to live, but feel good enough to kill myself" point.


No the anti depressants give them the slight energy boost to make the desire real. Then the anti depressants ruin your personality. Or you go through one bought of depression and when he next one comes you can't go through it again, like Virginia Woolf, etc.

The only thing worse than anti depressants is ECT, IMHO. Ask Ernest Hemingway what he thought of that. Or Godel. I can keep going but I'm crying too hard now.

I. Pray and wish none of you Lovely people here or your families ever experience this first hand 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 19, 2017, 09:30:04 pm

No the anti depressants give them the slight energy boost to make the desire real. Then the anti depressants ruin your personality. Or you go through one bought of depression and when he next one comes you can't go through it again, like Virginia Woolf, etc.

The only thing worse than anti depressants is ECT, IMHO. Ask Ernest Hemingway what he thought of that. Or Godel. I can keep going but I'm crying too hard now.

I. Pray and wish none of you Lovely people here or your families ever experience this first hand

They still do Electroshock Therapy?  Sick.  And people bitch about waterboarding.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on May 19, 2017, 09:33:16 pm
I think it may have something to do with regaining control.

To get to suicide, things usually must progress to the point of hopelessness. The idea of killing oneself, bringing an end to everything by one's own hand, is empowering if one believes that life on the whole is more bad than good. It brings this perverse sense of hope, that nonexistence is more pleasant than the current.

As the song goes:

"But suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please"

Ironically, the theme song from M.A.S.H........
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on May 19, 2017, 09:33:27 pm

No the anti depressants give them the slight energy boost to make the desire real. Then the anti depressants ruin your personality. Or you go through one bought of depression and when he next one comes you can't go through it again, like Virginia Woolf, etc.

The only thing worse than anti depressants is ECT, IMHO. Ask Ernest Hemingway what he thought of that. Or Godel. I can keep going but I'm crying too hard now.

I. Pray and wish none of you Lovely people here or your families ever experience this first hand

The Black Dog - no, I wouldn't wish that on anybody.   And, I readily admit that antidepressants help some and don't help others. 

Bless you, Freya.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on May 19, 2017, 09:39:17 pm
Back in the 90s, I tool Prozac for a very brief period.  Lifted my mood,  but it also made me drowsy.  Falling asleep at the office was not an option.  I stopped. 

These days, pharmaceutical companies advertise heavily on tv.  Seems that nearly every anti-depressant can give you suicidal thoughts or actions.  So what good are these drugs?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 19, 2017, 09:44:18 pm
They still do Electroshock Therapy?  Sick.  And people bitch about waterboarding.

yes, though it's slightly changed since Ken Kesey wrote about it in the 50s. Bones don't break anymore, but they strap you down good and tight to make sure it doesn't happen and they put something in your mouth so you don't bite off your tongue.

You still loose your long and short term memory. If you are lucky it will come back in a year or so. If you are out of luck it doesn't come back plus your IQ goes down twenty to thirty points. Hopefullly you were a member of Mensa so that doesn't present too much of a problem,

If not you want to pet the rabbits, George. Not in the happy way.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mom MD on May 19, 2017, 09:52:21 pm
yes, though it's slightly changed since Ken Kesey wrote about it in the 50s. Bones don't break anymore, but they strap you down good and tight to make sure it doesn't happen and they put something in your mouth so you don't bite off your tongue.

You still loose your long and short term memory. If you are lucky it will come back in a year or so. If you are out of luck it doesn't come back plus your IQ goes down twenty to thirty points. Hopefullly you were a member of Mensa so that doesn't present too much of a problem,

If not you want to pet the rabbits, George. Not in the happy way.

Electroshock therapy is one of the most effective and quick treatments for severe depression.  Patients are given general anesthesia and paralytic agents to stop the muscle activity and soreness.  As done today it is a highly effective treatment for severe refractory depression and can save lives
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 19, 2017, 10:01:59 pm
I love you @Mom MD and I respect you and admire you,but I humbly will disagree with you on this one topic and ask we can still be friends here.

I've never seen it work for anyone. If it has worked for someone, hurray. I. Believe Carrie Fisher said it helped her.

It's just I've never seen it work for anyone. 

I hope you still like me.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mom MD on May 19, 2017, 10:10:47 pm
I love you @Mom MD and I respect you and admire you,but I humbly will disagree with you on this one topic and ask we can still be friends here.

I've never seen it work for anyone. If it has worked for someone, hurray. I. Believe Carrie Fisher said it helped her.

It's just I've never seen it work for anyone. 

I hope you still like me.

@Freya of course I like you!!!   Disagreement does not mean we do not like each other!!!
Besides you are a crazy cat lady just like me (I currently have 4)

I replied just because shock therapy has an understandably bad rap.  But done in current conditions and on a very select group of patients it can be lifesaving.  You have a sweet spirit and I will always consider you friend
 :beer: :seeya: :patriot:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 19, 2017, 10:14:39 pm
@Freya of course I like you!!!   Disagreement does not mean we do not like each other!!!
Besides you are a crazy cat lady just like me (I currently have 4)

I replied just because shock therapy has an understandably bad rap.  But done in current conditions and on a very select group of patients it can be lifesaving.  You have a sweet spirit and I will always consider you friend
 :beer: :seeya: :patriot:

Piker.   :tongue2:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mom MD on May 19, 2017, 10:19:18 pm
Piker.   :tongue2:

Right back atcha  I also have a 4 year old daughter and my grown daughters German shepherd and cat staying with me...

Watch who u r calling piker there youngster  :nono:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on May 19, 2017, 10:47:26 pm
They also tend to do it when the anti-depressants kick in because they begin to feel good enough to do something at that point.  If they can ride it out a little longer, they can get beyond the "too depressed to live, but feel good enough to kill myself" point.

This sucks. I liked his work. My wife told me today they think it may have been related to a medication he was taking.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on May 19, 2017, 10:48:25 pm
Electroshock therapy is one of the most effective and quick treatments for severe depression.  Patients are given general anesthesia and paralytic agents to stop the muscle activity and soreness.  As done today it is a highly effective treatment for severe refractory depression and can save lives

If it kills the brain, then no.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mom MD on May 19, 2017, 10:53:28 pm
If it kills the brain, then no.

It doesn't kill the brain   It induces a seizure and like any other seizure it can take up to 24 hours for mental status to return to normal.   This is not for everyone but in the most refractory cases it can provide relief where little else has worked
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 19, 2017, 11:08:11 pm

You still loose your long and short term memory. If you are lucky it will come back in a year or so. If you are out of luck it doesn't come back plus your IQ goes down twenty to thirty points. Hopefullly you were a member of Mensa so that doesn't present too much of a problem,


@Freya

The "good" (?) news is it is always the very bright people that have the breakdowns. Information overload on people with VERY active minds,but  who are so lacking in emotional self-confidence they just can't handle reality. The sensitive types that have been raised or conditioned to feel guilty because they are smarter and have more than others.  Guilt is a major killer for people with a conscience.

People who have been raised to be grateful for the gifts they were born with never have these problems. They understand they have nothing to feel guilty about because even though they were born intellectually gifted they had to work hard to maximize it and because of their "birth gift" and their hard work,they have made the world a better place for those less-gifted as well as for themselves by providing jobs,medical advancements,technological advancements,fairer governments,advancing philosophies,etc,etc,etc.

After all,it's only the people with good minds that have  minds to lose.

Intelligence really IS  a "gift that keeps on giving"
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 19, 2017, 11:25:39 pm
Right back atcha  I also have a 4 year old daughter and my grown daughters German shepherd and cat staying with me...

Watch who u r calling piker there youngster  :nono:

"Youngster?"  I have a 4-year-old grandson, so I will simply have to tell your that I love you, madly.   :smokin:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 19, 2017, 11:48:37 pm
@Freya

The "good" (?) news is it is always the very bright people that have the breakdowns. Information overload on people with VERY active minds,but  who are so lacking in emotional self-confidence they just can't handle reality. The sensitive types that have been raised or conditioned to feel guilty because they are smarter and have more than others.  Guilt is a major killer for people with a conscience.

People who have been raised to be grateful for the gifts they were born with never have these problems. They understand they have nothing to feel guilty about because even though they were born intellectually gifted they had to work hard to maximize it and because of their "birth gift" and their hard work,they have made the world a better place for those less-gifted as well as for themselves by providing jobs,medical advancements,technological advancements,fairer governments,advancing philosophies,etc,etc,etc.

After all,it's only the people with good minds that have  minds to lose.

Intelligence really IS  a "gift that keeps on giving"

Thank you @sneakypete

Truth be told, I've been crying for the last hour or so because of this thread. I'm pretty spent to take all your wisdom in right now. I'll view it fresh in the morning
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: austingirl on May 20, 2017, 12:22:33 am
Chris Cornell was my favorite singer.  I've been listening to his music the last two days. He was a poet and wrote very dark lyrics. His wife is saying that he may have taken one or two more Ativan than usual, was slurring his words when they last spoke. He went to rehab in 2003 and was supposedly clean. Why the benzos? They are contraindicated in those who had problems with alcohol. He had three children that he leaves behind.  **nononono*

"Like A Stone"


On a cob web afternoon,
 In a room full of emptiness
 By a freeway I confess
 I was lost in the pages of a book full of death;
 Reading how we'll die alone.
 And if we're good we'll lay to rest,
 Anywhere we want to go.

Whether with Soundgarten, Audioslave or solo, his voice was exquisite and "no one sings like you anymore." RIP, Chris.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on May 20, 2017, 02:29:02 am
Chris Cornell was my favorite singer.  I've been listening to his music the last two days. He was a poet and wrote very dark lyrics. His wife is saying that he may have taken one or two more Ativan than usual, was slurring his words when they last spoke. He went to rehab in 2003 and was supposedly clean. Why the benzos? They are contraindicated in those who had problems with alcohol. He had three children that he leaves behind.  **nononono*

"Like A Stone"


On a cob web afternoon,
 In a room full of emptiness
 By a freeway I confess
 I was lost in the pages of a book full of death;
 Reading how we'll die alone.
 And if we're good we'll lay to rest,
 Anywhere we want to go.

Whether with Soundgarten, Audioslave or solo, his voice was exquisite and "no one sings like you anymore." RIP, Chris.

We haven't seen you much lately, @austingirl.  Glad to see you now!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 20, 2017, 04:00:09 am
It doesn't kill the brain   It induces a seizure and like any other seizure it can take up to 24 hours for mental status to return to normal.   This is not for everyone but in the most refractory cases it can provide relief where little else has worked

I have a cousin who recently finished a round of electroshock therapy for depression.

We haven't been close because she's a militant lesbian and I think that may be a source of a lot of her problems. However having dealt with depression of my own for many years before beating it, my uncle has encouraged us to talk.

Like me she is an insomniac and is laying awake and being haunted by the sources of her pain. I embraced my insomnia and used it for positive creative time. I told her to find an interest outside the politics that upset her so much and throw herself into that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on May 20, 2017, 04:22:28 am
Well, I know someone from Seattle, they play a lot of grunge up there.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on May 20, 2017, 04:42:53 am
I love you @Mom MD and I respect you and admire you,but I humbly will disagree with you on this one topic and ask we can still be friends here.

I've never seen it work for anyone. If it has worked for someone, hurray. I. Believe Carrie Fisher said it helped her.

It's just I've never seen it work for anyone. 

I hope you still like me.

@Freya  @Mom MD

I had a good friend who was a psychiatrist (dual-boarded; also internal medicine) and I trust her word and judgment quite thoroughly.  She told me that even though ECT is a very violent and potentially damaging treatments, and as hesitant as she was to prescribe it, she had seen miraculous results at times.

She also thought that too often, broad-brush approaches are used in psychiatry these days, rather than using more targeted approaches.  She also suggested rTMS should be used more often.  It's too bad the USA (FDA) lags in approvals so far behind the modern world.

It's a dirty little secret that we still don't have answers in effectively treating everyone with depression.  But potential solutions are held up by our backwards system.  I'd love to see more work done with ketamine, for example, and other microdosing applications of psychoactives, as there's a lot of promise there, IMO.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: austingirl on May 20, 2017, 04:21:32 pm
We haven't seen you much lately, @austingirl.  Glad to see you now!

I took a break after the election. Glad to be back.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on May 20, 2017, 04:25:45 pm
I took a break after the election. Glad to be back.

So you're smarter than me.  :tongue2:

Welcome back!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: austingirl on May 20, 2017, 05:11:11 pm
So you're smarter than me.  :tongue2:

Welcome back!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 20, 2017, 09:25:24 pm
According to article in today's Rolling Stone Magazine, Chris Cornell's wife blames anxiety medicine for her husbands death.

  http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/chris-cornells-wife-issues-statement-w483179
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: austingirl on May 20, 2017, 11:48:43 pm
According to article in today's Rolling Stone Magazine, Chris Cornell's wife blames anxiety medicine for her husbands death.

  http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/chris-cornells-wife-issues-statement-w483179

That is why I asked why benzos in my post yesterday when he had a history of alcohol abuse. Why would he be anxious after a performance- I would think he would be exhausted. He was so talented and seemed very involved with his kids. Hard to understand why...so sad.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 20, 2017, 11:54:17 pm
That is why I asked why benzos in my post yesterday when he had a history of alcohol abuse. Why would he be anxious after a performance- I would think he would be exhausted. He was so talented and seemed very involved with his kids. Hard to understand why...so sad.

Putting yourself out in front of a large audience has different effects on different people.  I used to do speeches for people, and people asked me how I got over the butterflies in the stomach.  I lived for those butterflies, I got off on them.  Like that.  Doesn't surprise me at all that's when he had anxiety.

Suicides make me sad.  I am a huge fan of Keith Emerson's music, for example, and he ended up shooting himself in the head.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on May 21, 2017, 12:03:03 am
I took a break after the election. Glad to be back.
So you're smarter than me.  :tongue2:



What @EC said.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on May 21, 2017, 12:17:44 am
Putting yourself out in front of a large audience has different effects on different people.  I used to do speeches for people, and people asked me how I got over the butterflies in the stomach.  I lived for those butterflies, I got off on them.  Like that.  Doesn't surprise me at all that's when he had anxiety.

Suicides make me sad.  I am a huge fan of Keith Emerson's music, for example, and he ended up shooting himself in the head.
Emerson apparently was driven to deeper depression than he already suffered when nerve damage in his right
arm affected his ability to play keyboards profoundly enough (despite a couple of surgeries) that he couldn't bear
it any longer, partly because (his girl friend has spoken of this) he couldn't bear letting his listeners down and
partly because giving up what was so deep a part of him proved intolerable.

Who knows what really wields what kind of impact upon a musician impaired?

The converse might be Charles Mingus. Stricken though he was with ALS, Mingus continued composing and
arranging, possibly because he'd long adopted a method whereby he wouldn't write a part down for
his musicians, he'd sing what he had in mind to them and let them take it from there. (When he was
stricken, he would do those things with new ideas and his wife would transcribe them.) Who knew that
technique would come to be the only way he could make music for the last few years of his life?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 21, 2017, 12:29:24 am
Emerson apparently was driven to deeper depression than he already suffered when nerve damage in his right
arm affected his ability to play keyboards profoundly enough (despite a couple of surgeries) that he couldn't bear
it any longer, partly because (his girl friend has spoken of this) he couldn't bear letting his listeners down and
partly because giving up what was so deep a part of him proved intolerable.

Who knows what really wields what kind of impact upon a musician impaired?

The converse might be Charles Mingus. Stricken though he was with ALS, Mingus continued composing and
arranging, possibly because he'd long adopted a method whereby he wouldn't write a part down for
his musicians, he'd sing what he had in mind to them and let them take it from there. (When he was
stricken, he would do those things with new ideas and his wife would transcribe them.) Who knew that
technique would come to be the only way he could make music for the last few years of his life?

The Carpal damage and surgeries had robbed him of his gift.  I've heard the post-op recordings (See the "Three Fates Project" with the Keith Emerson Band) and they were just awful.  It made me so sad for him, and when I heard he killed himself I knew exactly why he did it.  Fans were writing him and asking him to please stop, it''s OK we know.  I never wrote, but I thought it, and his wife said that feedback is what he could not stand.

He was preparing for a farewell tour in Japan that he knew he could not execute.  I pray to God I am never faced with such a thing.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on May 21, 2017, 12:35:33 am
The Carpal damage and surgeries had robbed him of his gift.  I've heard the post-op recordings (See the "Three Fates Project" with the Keith Emerson Band) and they were just awful.  It made me so sad for him, and when I heard he killed himself I knew exactly why he did it.  Fans were writing him and asking him to please stop, it''s OK we know.  I never wrote, but I thought it, and his wife said that feedback is what he could not stand.

He was preparing for a farewell tour in Japan that he knew he could not execute.  I pray to God I am never faced with such a thing.

@Cyber Liberty

If you live long enough,you WILL face the equivalent. We ALL will. It is your punishment for not having more fun when you were younger.

Don't ask me how to explain why I'm still alive and moving under my own power. I damn sure made zero effort to take care of myself,yet here  I am,dealing with it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on May 21, 2017, 12:38:37 am
The Carpal damage and surgeries had robbed him of his gift.  I've heard the post-op recordings (See the "Three Fates Project" with the Keith Emerson Band) and they were just awful.  It made me so sad for him, and when I heard he killed himself I knew exactly why he did it.  Fans were writing him and asking him to please stop, it''s OK we know.  I never wrote, but I thought it, and his wife said that feedback is what he could not stand.

He was preparing for a farewell tour in Japan that he knew he could not execute.  I pray to God I am never faced with such a thing.
To this day, this is my favourite performance by Keith Emerson . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwl0Et7RdlM
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 21, 2017, 01:00:40 am
To this day, this is my favourite performance by Keith Emerson . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwl0Et7RdlM

He had all the talent, but just didn't like it much, especially the last third.

There's this tribute group in England, Noddy's Puncture, with a guy who's fantastic on the keyboard.  He was friends with Emerson, and learned a lot from him.  Check out the website and find some audio, he's really good.

https://www.google.com/search?q=noddy%27s+puncture&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on May 21, 2017, 01:04:04 am
He had all the talent, but just didn't like it much, especially the last third.
I had the original album on vinyl for many years. That clip may have been from a remaster but the remaster
wasn't so hot. The album should get a complete cleanup and remaster.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 21, 2017, 01:21:03 am
I had the original album on vinyl for many years. That clip may have been from a remaster but the remaster
wasn't so hot. The album should get a complete cleanup and remaster.

You should check out the Noddy's Puncture Facebook.  Emerson was teaching him (Tom?) technique.  There is a fellow in LA area Emerson was working with on the Classical side, can't recall the name, but he's on Emerson's page.  The two students are 10,000 miles apart.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on May 21, 2017, 01:26:08 am
You should check out the Noddy's Puncture Facebook.  Emerson was teaching him (Tom?) technique.  There is a fellow in LA area Emerson was working with on the Classical side, can't recall the name, but he's on Emerson's page.  The two students are 10,000 miles apart.
I'll check them out.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 21, 2017, 01:31:44 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H1mNSHvrek
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 22, 2017, 12:01:47 am
One final interesting factoid on Cornell.

Lots of rock bands have covered country singer's songs but how many realize that Johnny Cash did a cover of Cornell's "Rusty Cage"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBZs_Py-1_0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtbuUlSGXzc



Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 23, 2017, 01:24:38 pm
Sky News is reporting that Sir Roger Moore has died from cancer.

Rest In Peace, James Bond.

Breaking
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on May 23, 2017, 01:33:43 pm
Sky News is reporting that Sir Roger Moore has died from cancer.

Rest In Peace, James Bond.

Breaking

89 is a long run. RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on May 23, 2017, 01:38:45 pm
I liked the Saint and I thought he was the better Bond because he was a little goofy.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/23/article-2429701-1820596B00000578-609_634x476.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 23, 2017, 01:52:16 pm
Actor Roger Moore, the comedic James Bond, dies at 89

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Roger_Moore_3_Allan_Warren.jpg/170px-Roger_Moore_3_Allan_Warren.jpg)

Moore, born in London, had been acting throughout the 1940s and 1950s, mostly in obscurity, before joining the U.S. TV series Maverick as the English-accented cousin to the Maverick brothers (the end result of some convoluted casting to reduce the workload of its star, James Garner). His first long-term role was that of Simon Templar in an adaptation of The Saint, which ran for seven years; he continued to hold roles on shorter-lived TV series throughout the 1960s and early 1970s.

In 1973, after George Lazenby declined to continue in the role of James Bond and Sean Connery also retired from the role, Moore was cast as the star of the franchise. Moore would star in seven Bond films over the next twelve years, beginning with Live and Let Die and ending with A View to a Kill in 1985. Moore's portrayal of Bond was slightly more camp and comic compared to the mostly straight approach taken by his predecessors, which can largely be credited to the film writers, who took a more 1970s-oriented approach to the original Ian Fleming stories.

Moore was not above self-parody, appearing as an impostor of himself in The Cannonball Run.

He mostly retired from acting, other than a few bit parts in a mini-career renaissance in the 1990s and early 2000s, after his Bond tenure. A staunch political conservative, Moore fled the UK's tax laws and resided in Switzerland and then Monaco during the last years of his life; despite this, the British Crown knighted him in 1999. He was also, much like his signature character, a profound womanizer, married four times in his life and having affairs with numerous other women during his lifetime.

Moore died in Monaco May 23, with the cause of death identified as cancer; Moore also had diabetes and health problems in the last years of his life. He is the first actor to play Bond in the film series to die; his predecessors and successors all survive.

Obituary from the BBC (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40018422)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Moore)

IMDB entry (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000549/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on May 23, 2017, 01:58:43 pm
Wow. He certainly exemplified suave.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SirLinksALot on May 23, 2017, 02:20:21 pm
SOURCE: TIME

URL: http://time.com/4790347/roger-moore-dead/?xid=homepage (http://time.com/4790347/roger-moore-dead/?xid=homepage)

by Dan Stewart


(http://www.radiotimes.com/uploads/images/Original/121383.jpg)

Roger Moore, the actor best known for his stint playing James Bond in the 1970s and 80s, has died. He was 89 years old. In a statement, his family said Moore died after a “short but brave battle with cancer.”

Moore played the archetypal super-spy starting in the 1970s, when he took the lead role from Sean Connery in Live and Let Die. He ended his run in 1985 with A View to a Kill.

The actor also starred in British TV shows The Saint, and The Persuaders! In later life, he dedicated his time to philanthropy, becoming a UNICEF ambassador.



Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Just_Victor on May 23, 2017, 02:25:06 pm
I liked the Saint and I thought he was the better Bond because he was a little goofy.

[img  i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/23/article-2429701-1820596B00000578-609_634x476.jpg[/img]

I never like Moore as James Bond.  He never came across as the cold blooded killer that Bond was supposed to be.

RIP Roger.  Cancer sucks
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Idiot on May 23, 2017, 02:41:35 pm
SOURCE: TIME

URL: http://time.com/4790347/roger-moore-dead/?xid=homepage (http://time.com/4790347/roger-moore-dead/?xid=homepage)

by Dan Stewart


(http://www.radiotimes.com/uploads/images/Original/121383.jpg)

Roger Moore, the actor best known for his stint playing James Bond in the 1970s and 80s, has died. He was 89 years old. In a statement, his family said Moore died after a “short but brave battle with cancer.”

Moore played the archetypal super-spy starting in the 1970s, when he took the lead role from Sean Connery in Live and Let Die. He ended his run in 1985 with A View to a Kill.

The actor also starred in British TV shows The Saint, and The Persuaders! In later life, he dedicated his time to philanthropy, becoming a UNICEF ambassador.

May all his drinks be "shaken, not stirred."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on May 23, 2017, 02:42:11 pm
I never like Moore as James Bond.  He never came across as the cold blooded killer that Bond was supposed to be.

RIP Roger.  Cancer sucks

I agree with every word, @Just_Victor.  I couldn't have said it better.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SirLinksALot on May 23, 2017, 02:46:46 pm
He was not my favorite James Bond ( Sean Connery and Daniel Craig are, the latter had a dark, brooding side to him that matches the Ian Fleming character in the novels ), yet, I have to say that Moore was fun to watch. I will miss him.

In the real world, James Bond should have died as early as Goldfinger. These villains could have just shot him and that would have been the end of 007, but they have to device some esoteric torture machine and leave him alone to die and then give 007 the chance to escape with one of his clever gadgets !! SHEESH.

Rant aside Roger Moore remains a classy man who used his fame to good use. He was known for his generosity and philantropy. He also spoke Italian perfectly ( his former wife Luisa Mattioli is Italian ).
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 23, 2017, 03:09:19 pm
The James Bond I grew up on... was Bond for 20 years at least right?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SirLinksALot on May 23, 2017, 03:32:10 pm
1962-1967, 1971 and 1983 Sean Connery: Sean Connery went on to play James Bond four more times in From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball and You Only Live Twice, before temporarily retiring from the role. He then came back for Diamonds are Forever, then finally Never Say Never Again.

1967 David Niven : That was Casino Royale, a SPOOF

1969 George Lazenby: The under appreciated On Her Majesty's Secret Service

1972–1985 Roger Moore: ( 7 films, Live and Let Die, The Man with the Golden Gun, The Spy who Loved Me, Moonraker, For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, A View to a Kill )

1986–1994 Timothy Dalton: 2 films, The Living Daylights and License to Kill

1994–2004 Pierce Brosnan: ( 4 films, GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, The World Is Not Enough, Die Another Day )

2005-Present, Daniel Craig: (4 films, Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, Skyfall, Spectre )







Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on May 23, 2017, 04:04:22 pm
Sean Connery was the best Bond, in my opinion.  Poor Roger Moore had some big shoes to fill, and as a result, I suppose his performance as Bond  just had to pale by comparison to Connery's.  Too bad because I think Moore was a decent actor.

For that matter, I was less impressed with the other Bonds too, although Daniel Craig is very good.

Anyway, rest in peace, Mr. Moore.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 23, 2017, 04:30:17 pm
Peter Augustine Lawler, 1951-2017

We are very sorry to learn of the death of the distinguished scholar and writer Peter Augustine Lawler, a valued contributor to many journals, including THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

His essays for us, always worth reading and rereading, are collected here.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/peter-augustine-lawler-1951-2017/article/2008179
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 23, 2017, 04:30:50 pm
Sean Connery was the best Bond, in my opinion.  Poor Roger Moore had some big shoes to fill, and as a result, I suppose his performance as Bond  just had to pale by comparison to Connery's.  Too bad because I think Moore was a decent actor.

For that matter, I was less impressed with the other Bonds too, although Daniel Craig is very good.

Anyway, rest in peace, Mr. Moore.
I agree! RIP, Mr. Moore.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Just_Victor on May 23, 2017, 04:59:17 pm
Sean Connery was the best Bond, in my opinion.  Poor Roger Moore had some big shoes to fill, and as a result, I suppose his performance as Bond  just had to pale by comparison to Connery's.  Too bad because I think Moore was a decent actor.

For that matter, I was less impressed with the other Bonds too, although Daniel Craig is very good.

Anyway, rest in peace, Mr. Moore.

I was trying not to dis the man's grave.  He played the suave debonair man-whore very well.  But the movies were kinda campy, like the old 60s Batman series.  Prolly not Moore's fault.

Connery was good, but production values when Connery was Bond stank.  The movies with Daniel Craig are the best package (story, production, acting) IMHO.

Anyway, Moore has departed this life, and I'm saddened for the people who loved him.

Maybe we should start a Bond critique thread....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: txradioguy on May 23, 2017, 06:42:48 pm
RIP Cortez Kennedy 48...HOF defensive tackle for the Seahawks.

Found dead in his home in Florida.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 23, 2017, 06:50:40 pm
Pro Football Hall of Fame defensive tackle Cortez Kennedy dies at 48

96

The former University of Miami product played eleven seasons for the Seattle Seahawks as a defensive tackle. Recognized as one of the best at his position in league history, Kennedy made the Pro Bowl eight times in his career, was named an All-Pro five times, and was named Defensive Player of the Year in 1992 and a member of the All-Decade team of the 1990s. Kennedy was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2012.

Once dubbed the best player to ever wear the number 96 in the NFL (the number had only been made available to NFL players since the mid-1980s), the jersey was retired by the Seahawks organization.

Kennedy was found dead, alone, in his home. Foul play is not suspected.

Death notice from ESPN (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19444913/pro-football-hall-famer-cortez-kennedy-dies-age-48)

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortez_Kennedy)

NFL stats (http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=KEN365453)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on May 23, 2017, 07:52:33 pm
Austin singer-songwriter Jimmy LaFave dead at 61

AUSTIN (KXAN) — Just days after a farewell concert honoring the life and times of Austin’s own singer-songwriter Jimmy LaFave, the aggressive, incurable form of cancer he was diagnosed with in 2016 took him away.

LaFave died Sunday surrounded by loved ones in his home, his music label, Music Road Records announced Monday. Despite being often identified as being from Oklahoma due to musical ties to the state, LaFave had lived in Austin for nearly 30 years. He was born in Wills Point, Texas on July 12, 1955.

In 2005, LaFave told KXAN he liked playing in Austin because “I feel like I’m with my people. I like people in this part of the country and I think there’s a certain music that comes out of here that’s not affected by the East or West Coast. There’s a good purity to the music here.”

Excerpted, more at the link: http://kxan.com/2017/05/22/austin-singer-songwriter-jimmy-lafave-dead-at-61/ (http://kxan.com/2017/05/22/austin-singer-songwriter-jimmy-lafave-dead-at-61/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on May 23, 2017, 08:31:06 pm
Austin singer-songwriter Jimmy LaFave dead at 61

AUSTIN (KXAN) — Just days after a farewell concert honoring the life and times of Austin’s own singer-songwriter Jimmy LaFave, the aggressive, incurable form of cancer he was diagnosed with in 2016 took him away.

LaFave died Sunday surrounded by loved ones in his home, his music label, Music Road Records announced Monday. Despite being often identified as being from Oklahoma due to musical ties to the state, LaFave had lived in Austin for nearly 30 years. He was born in Wills Point, Texas on July 12, 1955.

In 2005, LaFave told KXAN he liked playing in Austin because “I feel like I’m with my people. I like people in this part of the country and I think there’s a certain music that comes out of here that’s not affected by the East or West Coast. There’s a good purity to the music here.”

Excerpted, more at the link: http://kxan.com/2017/05/22/austin-singer-songwriter-jimmy-lafave-dead-at-61/ (http://kxan.com/2017/05/22/austin-singer-songwriter-jimmy-lafave-dead-at-61/)

This seems appropriate:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFAVGedctWA

I think they were the same age too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on May 23, 2017, 08:59:28 pm
He was not my favorite James Bond ( Sean Connery and Daniel Craig are, the latter had a dark, brooding side to him that matches the Ian Fleming character in the novels ), yet, I have to say that Moore was fun to watch. I will miss him.

In the real world, James Bond should have died as early as Goldfinger. These villains could have just shot him and that would have been the end of 007, but they have to device some esoteric torture machine and leave him alone to die and then give 007 the chance to escape with one of his clever gadgets !! SHEESH.

Rant aside Roger Moore remains a classy man who used his fame to good use. He was known for his generosity and philantropy. He also spoke Italian perfectly ( his former wife Luisa Mattioli is Italian ).
I don't watch much modern movies or tv today, but I remember the "build a torture device for the heroes and leave" plot device for villains in many tv shows of the day. Mad Magazine did a great satire of "The Man From Uncle" where they had Napoleon Solo and some shapely babe about to be dumped into a gigantic vat of oatmeal. I still laugh when I think of Solo and the girl hanging from a hook above the oatmeal in that particular satire.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 23, 2017, 09:52:31 pm
A few days late, but...

Former Detroit Lions linebacker Wayne Walker dies at 80

55

One of the first professional football players to emerge from the state of Idaho, Walker played 15 seasons and 200 games in the NFL, all of them with the Detroit Lions. His best years were from 1963 to 1966, when he earned Pro-Bowl and All-Pro honors. Following his career, Walker served as a broadcaster, not only on football broadcasts but on baseball as well, being based in Oakland, California until his retirement in the 1990s. During his retirement, he returned to Idaho and continued some broadcasting.

Walker died May 19 of complications from Parkinson's disease.

Obituary from NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000810053/article/wayne-walker-lions-lb-longtime-49ers-broadcaster-dies-at-80)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Walker)

NFL stats (http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=2528129)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 23, 2017, 10:07:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIHSxLYzc6Q
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on May 23, 2017, 10:18:17 pm
1962-1967, 1971 and 1983 Sean Connery: Sean Connery went on to play James Bond four more times in From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball and You Only Live Twice, before temporarily retiring from the role. He then came back for Diamonds are Forever, then finally Never Say Never Again.

1967 David Niven : That was Casino Royale, a SPOOF

1969 George Lazenby: The under appreciated On Her Majesty's Secret Service

1972–1985 Roger Moore: ( 7 films, Live and Let Die, The Man with the Golden Gun, The Spy who Loved Me, Moonraker, For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, A View to a Kill )

1986–1994 Timothy Dalton: 2 films, The Living Daylights and License to Kill

1994–2004 Pierce Brosnan: ( 4 films, GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, The World Is Not Enough, Die Another Day )

2005-Present, Daniel Craig: (4 films, Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, Skyfall, Spectre )
Actually, you missed the very first Jmes Bond actor and movie, albeit on TV, Barry Nelson in Casino Royale 1954.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47p90C3IXXA
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on May 23, 2017, 10:24:47 pm
Dina Merrill, Actress and Philanthropist, Dies at 93

Dina Merrill, the actress and heiress to two fortunes who wintered at her family’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., as a child before becoming a leading lady in movies, most often in upper-class roles, died on Monday at her home in East Hampton, N.Y. She was 93.

Her death was confirmed by her son, Stanley H. Rumbough, who said she had Lewy Body dementia.

An elegant presence in most of her 30 or so mid-20th-century movies, Ms. Merrill played the betrayed wife who loses both her husband, Laurence Harvey, and her mink coat to Elizabeth Taylor in “Butterfield 8” (1960); the chic fashion consultant who loses Glenn Ford to Shirley Jones in “The Courtship of Eddie’s Father” (1963); and the steadfast socialite wife of an assistant district attorney played by Burt Lancaster in “The Young Savages” (1961).

More: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/movies/dina-merrill-dead-actress-and-heiress.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 24, 2017, 10:18:01 am
@EC , I was just going to post this.

Beautiful woman, lead an extrodinary life. She was also in some funny movies and TV shows.

Every photo I saw of her she was Impeccably dressed, and oozed class.

R.I.P.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod1 on May 25, 2017, 12:23:44 pm
Merged separate Roger Moore thread into Obituaries thread.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on May 26, 2017, 03:41:05 pm
Jared Martin, Who Played Rodeo Cowboy Dusty Farlow on 'Dallas,' Dies at 75

Quote
Jared Martin, the Dallas actor who portrayed Dusty Farlow, the rodeo cowboy and Sue Ellen Ewing seducer who perished in a plane crash, only to have producers resurrect his character by popular demand, has died. He was 75.

Martin died Wednesday of pancreatic cancer at his home in Philadelphia, his son, Christian Martin, told The Hollywood Reporter.

Martin roomed with Brian De Palma when they both attended Columbia University in New York and appeared in the first and third features of the director's career: Murder a la Mod (1968) and The Wedding Party (1969).
More (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jared-martin-dead-dusty-farlow-dallas-was-75-1007947)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Martin)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0552474/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on May 26, 2017, 03:53:04 pm
Quote
NFL Hall of Famer Cortez Kennedy found dead at age 48
Published: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:00 a.m. CDT
By TIM BOOTH AP Sports Writer

Cortez Kennedy was a hulking force at defensive tackle, the cornerstone of a franchise that had little to cheer about for most of his playing career.

And yet what Kennedy accomplished as a player with the Seattle Seahawks — which was good enough for induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame — was secondary to the affable personality that made him a revered figure long after his career ended.

Police in Orlando, Florida, said the 48-year-old Kennedy was found dead Tuesday morning. Orlando Police Department public information officer Wanda Miglio said the circumstances surrounding his death are still unknown but that there is nothing suspicious about it. An investigation is being conducted.

“The full story lies in his loving, fun, positive and giving heart,” said New Orleans Saints general manager Mickey Loomis, who worked for the Seahawks during Kennedy’s playing career. “In my many years working in the NFL, no one better exemplified what it meant to be a great player on the field, and yet that paled in comparison to what Cortez meant to the people who knew him off the field.”

Continued: http://www.newtondailynews.com/2017/05/26/nfl-hall-of-famer-cortez-kennedy-found-dead-at-age-48/af0bieb/

Rest In Peace
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on May 26, 2017, 07:55:16 pm
Jacque Fresco, Futurist Who Envisioned a Society Without Money, Dies at 101

Jacque Fresco, a self-taught and passionate industrial designer who envisioned an alternative society where money would be eliminated and resources distributed equitably by computers, died on May 18 in Sebring, Fla. He was 101.

His death was confirmed by Roxanne Meadows, his partner, who said he had Parkinson’s syndrome and had recently broken a hip.

More: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/24/us/jacque-fresco-futurist-who-envisioned-a-society-without-money-dies-at-101.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 26, 2017, 11:06:14 pm
Give it another 20 years - Fresco may not be too far off the way things are going.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on May 26, 2017, 11:07:36 pm
Give it another 20 years - Fresco may not be too far off the way things are going.

The Singularity.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 27, 2017, 04:35:15 am
Zbigniew Brzezinski dies at 89

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Zbigniew_Brzezinski%2C_1977.jpg/220px-Zbigniew_Brzezinski%2C_1977.jpg)

Born in Poland, Brzezisnki moved to Canada as a child, then came to the United States when he attended Harvard University. A Soviet Union expert and sympathizer, Brzezinski rose in influence in the 1950s and found his way onto President Lyndon Johnson's staff, as well as the campaign of Hubert Humphrey in 1968.

He quickly built an alliance with Jimmy Carter in 1975, then became Carter's national security advisor when Carter won the Presidency. Eventually he soured on Soviet rule and backed dissident groups in Eastern Europe. In perhaps one of his greatest blunders, Brzezinski indirectly backed the mujaheddin in resisting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, which formed the basis of the modern Islamic terrorist movement. He also unsuccessfully backed the Shah of Iran before his government was toppled in the Iranian revolution, was a founding member of the Trilateral Commission, and re-established relations with Red China.

Brzezinski was also the father to current MSNBC morning host Mika Brzezinski.

Obituary from Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/26/zbigniew-brzezinski-dies-238879)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on May 28, 2017, 03:30:11 am
Gregg Allman, Influential Force Behind the Allman Brothers Band, Dies at 69

Gregg Allman, a founding member of the Allman Brothers Band, the incendiary group that inspired and gave shape to both the Southern rock and jam-band movements, died on Saturday at his home in Savannah, Ga. He was 69.

His death was announced in a statement on Mr. Allman’s official website. No cause was given, but the statement said he had “struggled with many health issues over the past several years.”

The band’s lead singer and keyboardist, Mr. Allman was one of the principal architects of a taut, improvisatory fusion of blues, jazz, country and rock that — streamlined by inheritors like Lynyrd Skynyrd and the Marshall Tucker Band — became the Southern rock of the 1970s.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/27/arts/music/gregg-allman-dead-allman-brothers-band.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: austingirl on May 28, 2017, 04:11:04 am
RIP Gregg Allman.  Midnight Rider and Whipping Post are faves.

I am still so very sad about Chris Cornell. His funeral was yesterday.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on May 28, 2017, 04:43:08 am
RIP Gregg Allman

Been bummed about this all day. Thanks for the music.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Old Warrior in Exile on May 28, 2017, 04:51:48 am
RIP Gregg Allman.  Midnight Rider and Whipping Post are faves.

I am still so very sad about Chris Cornell. His funeral was yesterday.

@austingirl;

They were two of my favorite troubadours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDIQ7Otf1mw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnV63_fyt04
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 28, 2017, 05:06:46 am
One of my earliest music memories was listening to the Allman Brothers on Dad's Kanazawa. Such a tight band and spectacular music. One of the best live acts ever. Always respected their knack for their ability to take southern and blue collar and put it together just right. My two favorites from Live at the Fillmore East:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr1dPUoLqMM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezPZxfS1jys
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 28, 2017, 05:36:58 am
Bummer. Thanks for the Music, and RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on May 28, 2017, 05:48:37 am
RIP the only man in baseball history to pitch a perfect game on Father's Day and become a Congressman and Senator
after his playing days . . .

Jim Bunning, Hall of Fame pitcher and former U.S. Senator, dead at 85 (https://sports.yahoo.com/news/jim-bunning-hall-fame-pitcher-former-u-s-senator-dead-85-182609538.html)

Bunning nailing the final out of that 1964 perfecto---while his wife and oldest daughter were in the stands:

(http://metsrewind.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/jim-bunning-760x400.jpg)

His wife and daughter decided to drive up to New York to surprise Dad for Father's Day.

Of course, the 1964 World’s Fair was right across the street, and I really think they came up for that.---Jim Bunning, remembering the game.

It made Bunning the first pitcher to throw no-hitters in each league and catcher Gus Triandos the first catcher to
catch no-hitters in each league. It was also the first perfect game thrown in the National League in the 20th
Century.

It also put Tracy Stallard, the Mets' starting pitcher, on the wrong side of history for the second time: he'd been
the Red Sox pitcher who served up Roger Maris's 61st home run in 1961.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on May 28, 2017, 02:18:01 pm
RIP Gregg Allman.  Midnight Rider and Whipping Post are faves.
Two of my favorites, as well. Great band.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on May 28, 2017, 03:55:21 pm
Two greats in their respective fields. 

Rest in peace, Gregg Allman and Jim Bunning.

My favorite from Gregg Allman:


https://youtu.be/R6E5eThIRn8

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: austingirl on May 28, 2017, 03:57:06 pm
@Old Warrior in Exile

Thanks for the tunes!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: austingirl on May 28, 2017, 03:59:52 pm
@mountaineer

They were great and I will continue to play their music.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on May 28, 2017, 04:39:19 pm
RIP Gregg Allman . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy3mIvcN9Z0
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: berdie on May 28, 2017, 09:57:24 pm
RIP Gregg. I loved the Allman Brothers. I had to go in for a heart procedure not long ago that required light anesthetic. I asked that they keep it really light so I could watch on the screen (yeah, I know I'm weird.) They were playing the Allmans in the OR. Not my request...just a happy coincidence that made the "experience" pretty darn good.

I hate that the artists that I am familiar with are leaving. I really doubt the newer artists, although some are good, will stand the test of time.   
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on May 29, 2017, 09:06:10 pm
Frank Deford, Giant of Sports Journalism, Dies at 78

Quote
Frank Deford, the charismatic sports writer widely regarded as one of the best of his generation who also presided over the ambitious and short-lived The National, one of the biggest busts in the annals of the newspaper industry, has died. He was 78.

Deford, who began his career at Sports Illustrated in 1962 and remained with the magazine for decades, died Sunday in Key West, Fla., his wife told The Washington Post.

A prolific and widely admired novelist as well, Deford wrote the 1981 book Everybody's All-American, about the downfall of a 1950s University of North Carolina star. It was made into the 1988 film directed by Taylor Hackford that starred Dennis Quaid and Jessica Lange.

Deford's passion, knowledge of sports and knack for storytelling led the Baltimore native to opportunities beyond the page. HBO brought him in to serve as a senior correspondent for Real Sports With Bryant Gumbel, and for 37 years through this month, he served as a regular commentator for NPR's Morning Edition. He won an Emmy Award and a Peabody.
More (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/frank-deford-legendary-sports-illustrated-writer-was-78-952387)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Deford)

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on May 29, 2017, 09:41:34 pm
Frank Deford, Giant of Sports Journalism, Dies at 78
More (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/frank-deford-legendary-sports-illustrated-writer-was-78-952387)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Deford)
@Machiavelli
I liked Deford's writing and his gutsy bid to make The National work. (I was a regular reader.) Not to mention
the way he remembered his little girl's battle against cystic fibrosis in Alex: The Life of a Child.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 09:49:22 pm
Kinda liked the Deford guy style of writing.  Nice send up by the hollywood reporter.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on May 29, 2017, 10:23:38 pm
I used to subscribe to SI a quarter of a century ago and hence read a lot of DeFord's columns. I'm sure DeFord, like most modern sportwriters, was a liberal, but he didn't seem to let it interfere with his sportwriting as much as current sportswriters.  I guess, because I've rarely read anything by him in the last twenty-five years.   He was a little full of himself, but not too obnoxious.
You have to remember that many liberal sportswriters, like DeFord,  slobbered all over Muhammad Ali even after he was spouting black Muslim nonsense including stuff about how interracial couples should be killed.  Ali may have or may not have recanted later in life, but at the time all those hip sportwriters couldn't kiss his a** enough. DeFord might have been one of them.
So when I hear the typical lib sportswriter go off on American society and white racists holding down the oppressed minorities, I remember their love for a black racist  who openly said things that they would have condemned a white guy for saying the same things.
In short, they're all mostly fantastic hypocrites.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on May 29, 2017, 11:14:31 pm
I used to subscribe to SI a quarter of a century ago and hence read a lot of DeFord's columns. I'm sure DeFord, like most modern sportwriters, was a liberal, but he didn't seem to let it interfere with his sportwriting as much as current sportswriters.  I guess, because I've rarely read anything by him in the last twenty-five years.   He was a little full of himself, but not too obnoxious.
You have to remember that many liberal sportswriters, like DeFord,  slobbered all over Muhammad Ali even after he was spouting black Muslim nonsense including stuff about how interracial couples should be killed.  Ali may have or may not have recanted later in life, but at the time all those hip sportwriters couldn't kiss his a** enough. DeFord might have been one of them.
So when I hear the typical lib sportswriter go off on American society and white racists holding down the oppressed minorities, I remember their love for a black racist  who openly said things that they would have condemned a white guy for saying the same things.
In short, they're all mostly fantastic hypocrites.
Ali actually might have wanted to leave the Black Muslims earlier than he finally did in the 1970s. He stayed
as long as he did no matter than he disagreed with a lot of their sociology because he feared meeting the same
end as Malcolm X. You can read the story in:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51MlODZYgYL._SX328_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

As for Frank Deford, this was one of my favourite pieces by him, an August 1983 profile of Howard Cosell:

"I've Won. I've Beat Them" (https://www.si.com/vault/1983/08/08/619506/ive-won-ive-beat-them)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 30, 2017, 02:47:13 pm
Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega dies at 83

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/Manuel_Noriega_mugshot_cropped.jpg/220px-Manuel_Noriega_mugshot_cropped.jpg)

An acquaintance of Omar Tarrijos, Noriega was trained in the United States and was a member of the mob that orchestrated a coup of the Panamanian government in 1968, which began Torrijos's 13-year reign over the country. After Torrijos was killed in a plane crash, Noriega emerged as his successor in what was effectively martial law over the country.

It was at this point that Noriega, who had previously been so friendly with the U.S. that he had served on the CIA payroll, turned sharply against the U.S. His reign included mass corruption, drug trafficking, assassinating a political opponent and election rigging (he manipulated vote totals when the President that Torrijos had ousted was likely to win easily had Noriega not interfered). When Noriega was caught rigging a second election in 1989, the U.S. invaded Panama.

In perhaps one of the most humorous and iconic cases of circumventing sanctuary law, Noriega attempted to take refuge in a Catholic nunciature, which, as a de facto embassy of the Vatican, American forces could not enter. In Operation Nifty Package, American troops surrounded the nunciature and blared rock music and other noise at the building, and after ten days the ambassador finally convinced Noriega to surrender.

Noriega was tried and convicted of numerous crimes in the U.S., Panama and France, spending the rest of his life in prison.

Obituary from the BBC (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-16966007)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Noriega)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on May 31, 2017, 08:02:02 pm
Molly Peters, Bond Girl, passes away at 75 years old. She was in Thunderball.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/former-bond-girl-molly-peters-dead-at-75/ar-BBBJxxO?OCID=ansmsnnews11

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4556336/Bond-girl-Molly-Peters-dies-age-75.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on June 01, 2017, 10:21:42 pm
Elena Verdugo, Emmy-Nominated Actress on 'Marcus Welby, M.D.,' Dies at 92

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Elena Verdugo, who portrayed the devoted office assistant and nurse Consuelo Lopez opposite Robert Young on the 1970s ABC drama Marcus Welby, M.D., has died. She was 92.

Verdugo died Tuesday in Los Angeles, a representative for actress Sharon Gless told The Hollywood Reporter. Early in her career, Gless had a recurring role as hospital worker Kathleen Faverty on Marcus Welby, M.D., and she and Verdugo had been extremely close ever since.
More (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/elena-verdugo-dead-marcus-welby-md-actress-was-92-974642)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Verdugo)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0893900/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on June 01, 2017, 11:36:20 pm
Elena Verdugo, Emmy-Nominated Actress on 'Marcus Welby, M.D.,' Dies at 92
More (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/elena-verdugo-dead-marcus-welby-md-actress-was-92-974642)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Verdugo)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0893900/)

Wow.  92!!

Maybe the greatest name in show biz.  ^-^
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 01, 2017, 11:39:29 pm
Wow.  92!!

Maybe the greatest name in show biz.  ^-^
@musiclady

Among us old-time radio buffs, Elena Verdugo is iconic for playing this title character:

Meet Millie (http://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/M%20Series/Meet%20Millie/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on June 01, 2017, 11:39:37 pm
Wow.  92!!

Maybe the greatest name in show biz.  ^-^

Let's be honest. She did work for a couple of Doctors. She had an inside track to the best care. That's why she made it to 92.

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/zweb-s3.uploads/visiontv/2014/08/MarcusWelbyMD_MAW_30800_0029_600.jpg)

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on June 02, 2017, 05:50:54 pm
Sad news: Eminent conductor collapses and dies (Sir Jeffrey Tate)

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The management agency for Sir Jeffrey Tate has confirmed his death, this afternoon, at the age of 74. The eminent British conductor suffered a heart attack while visiting the Accademia Carrara in Bergamo, Italy, and could not be revived.

Sir Jeffrey Tate, who was 74, was knighted six weeks ago for services to music.
More (http://slippedisc.com/2017/06/sad-news-eminent-conductor-collapses-and-dies/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Tate)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on June 02, 2017, 06:20:27 pm
@musiclady

Among us old-time radio buffs, Elena Verdugo is iconic for playing this title character:

Meet Millie (http://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/M%20Series/Meet%20Millie/)

I don't know a whole lot about radio other than Nelson Eddy broadcasts and "The Shadow."

But I DO know that our own @Frank Cannon was the voice of the Lone Ranger.....

Or something like that.  :dx1:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on June 02, 2017, 06:21:16 pm
Let's be honest. She did work for a couple of Doctors. She had an inside track to the best care. That's why she made it to 92.

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/zweb-s3.uploads/visiontv/2014/08/MarcusWelbyMD_MAW_30800_0029_600.jpg)

Nothing like having Jim Anderson giving you medical advice, right??

I mean he DOES know best.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 02, 2017, 10:27:12 pm
I don't know a whole lot about radio other than Nelson Eddy broadcasts and "The Shadow."

But I DO know that our own @Frank Cannon was the voice of the Lone Ranger.....

Or something like that.  :dx1:
Not even close . . .

Gunsmoke (http://www.archive.org/details/OTRR_Gunsmoke_Singles)
(The radio original leaves the television version eating a tumbleweed's dust!)

I'm that man---Matt Dillon, U.S. Marshal. The first man they look for and the last they want
to meet. It's a chancy job, and it makes a man watchful---and a little lonely
.
---William Conrad's usual introduction on a Gunsmoke radio show.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on June 03, 2017, 12:47:54 am
SiriusXM has Radio Classics and they play Gunsmoke episodes fairly frequently. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 03, 2017, 12:56:48 am
SiriusXM has Radio Classics and they play Gunsmoke episodes fairly frequently.
:thumbsup2:

I have a collection of over fifteen thousand old-time radio shows, including every surviving
Gunsmoke---414 shows.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on June 03, 2017, 02:57:36 am
Not even close . . .

Gunsmoke (http://www.archive.org/details/OTRR_Gunsmoke_Singles)
(The radio original leaves the television version eating a tumbleweed's dust!)

I'm that man---Matt Dillon, U.S. Marshal. The first man they look for and the last they want
to meet. It's a chancy job, and it makes a man watchful---and a little lonely
.
---William Conrad's usual introduction on a Gunsmoke radio show.

Ah....... I knew Conrad was the voice of one of those cowboy hero types.  I always thought it was funny because I couldn't imagine a portly fellow riding a horse.

Conrad also was the narrator for TV's The Fugitive.

Great voice that guy had......
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on June 03, 2017, 12:05:12 pm
Wetsuit pioneer Jack O'Neill dies at age 94
By Amy R. Connolly   |   June 3, 2017 at 7:00 AM
(http://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/upi/7181496485300/2017/1/da4e7c40bf2940e6e0c3a6c16c586aad/Wetsuit-pioneer-Jack-ONeill-dies-at-age-94.jpg)
Jack O'Neill, who pioneered a wetsuit that helped popularize cold-water surfing, died at age 94 of natural causes at his California home. Pictured: Ken Collins rides a wave in the first heat of the Mavericks Invitational surf contest at Half Moon Bay, Calif. on January 24, 2014. South African Grant "Twiggy" Baker won the competition. Photo by Terry Schmitt/UP | License Photo

June 3 (UPI) -- Jack O'Neill, who pioneered a wetsuit that helped popularize cold-water surfing and built a massive surfing enterprise, died at age 94 of natural causes at his California home.

O'Neill, noted for his eye patch, opened the possibility of surfing in Central and Northern California's cold waters with neoprene wetsuits after he started experimenting in the 1950s. Surfers at the time had been using sweaters covered in water sealant and other articles of clothing in the frigid waters.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/06/03/Wetsuit-pioneer-Jack-ONeill-dies-at-age-94/7181496485300/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on June 03, 2017, 02:56:50 pm
Wetsuit pioneer Jack O'Neill dies at age 94
By Amy R. Connolly   |   June 3, 2017 at 7:00 AM
(http://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/upi/7181496485300/2017/1/da4e7c40bf2940e6e0c3a6c16c586aad/Wetsuit-pioneer-Jack-ONeill-dies-at-age-94.jpg)
Jack O'Neill, who pioneered a wetsuit that helped popularize cold-water surfing, died at age 94 of natural causes at his California home. Pictured: Ken Collins rides a wave in the first heat of the Mavericks Invitational surf contest at Half Moon Bay, Calif. on January 24, 2014. South African Grant "Twiggy" Baker won the competition. Photo by Terry Schmitt/UP | License Photo

June 3 (UPI) -- Jack O'Neill, who pioneered a wetsuit that helped popularize cold-water surfing and built a massive surfing enterprise, died at age 94 of natural causes at his California home.

O'Neill, noted for his eye patch, opened the possibility of surfing in Central and Northern California's cold waters with neoprene wetsuits after he started experimenting in the 1950s. Surfers at the time had been using sweaters covered in water sealant and other articles of clothing in the frigid waters.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/06/03/Wetsuit-pioneer-Jack-ONeill-dies-at-age-94/7181496485300/

Inventor of the wetsuit and the board leash.

Used to see him back in the early 80's out on his longboard in front of his place on 38th ave in Soquel. Never said much and was always alone.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on June 03, 2017, 03:52:25 pm
SiriusXM has Radio Classics and they play Gunsmoke episodes fairly frequently.

You have to listen to the old Dragnets. My favorite.

@Sanguine
@EasyAce
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 03, 2017, 05:25:27 pm
You have to listen to the old Dragnets. My favorite.

@Sanguine
@EasyAce
@Freya
The entire radio run of Dragnet is in my collection. The only better crime dramas I ever heard
among my old-time radio collection were The Whistler and Broadway is My Beat.

I also have complete surviving sets of:

The Jack Benny Program
Fred Allen (almost two hundred of his shows have survived, including the classics Town Hall Tonight
and Texaco Star Theater)
Fibber McGee & Molly
Our Miss Brooks
The CBS Radio Workshop
Easy Aces (about three hundred of this classic serial comedy---the episodes Goodman Ace once shrewdly
sold to Frederick Ziv, who syndicated them so successfully the Aces made more money on that than they did
when they actually did the show live from 1930-43)
Vic & Sade
Burns & Allen
Lux Radio Theater
CBS World News Today (a treasure chest of World War II reporting)
Suspense
Quiet, Please
The Old Gold Comedy Theater (ran one season, hosted by silent screen legend Harold Lloyd)
Fort Laramie (not to be confused with the later television western Laramie; ran one season
and starred a pre-Perry Mason Raymond Burr)
The Six Shooter (ran one season but was probably the second most intelligent radio Western
of all---and starred James Stewart in the title role)
The Green Hornet
The Great Gildersleeve (inventor of the spin-off show, starred Harold Peary taking his Fibber
McGee & Molly
role out of town and as, arguably, broadcasting's first kind-of "bachelor father"
raising his orphaned niece and nephew while running their town's water department)
The Halls of Ivy (Ronald Colman and his wife Benita as a college president and first lady of a sort)
The Henry Morgan Show (Morgan was probably the edgiest radio comedian of them all)
The Bickersons (with and without their parent show Drene Time; the great-grandparents of
such paragons of domestic blitz as The Honeymooners, All in the Family, and Married . . .
with Children
)

. . . among others . . .
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on June 03, 2017, 08:51:50 pm
@Freya


..@EasyAce  @Freya 

 then great-grandparents of
such paragons of domestic blitz as The Honeymooners, All in the Family, and Married . . .
with Children
)

. . . among others . . .

I may be the only one on the planet that thinks this,but The Honeymooners sucked all the air right off the planet. Ralph was a arrogant fool that was a wife abuser and general all-around loser with not ONE redeeming quality,his wife Alice had a whine so severe she deserved Ralph,and WW-2 film reels of Dachau made it appear to be a warm and friendly place compared to Ralph's bare apartment.

Absolutely hated "I Love Lucy",too. Ricky should have strangled that bitch in her sleep. Who the hell would want to live with a woman with the personality of a spoiled 8 year old?

Amos and Andy was hilarious,though. De Kingfish was as pompous as Ralph,but a MUCH nicer guy. It might have happened,but I don't recall ever seeing and hearing any of the main characters on Amos and Andy screaming at each other or promising to kill ("send you to the moon!"),either.

I also have to admit that I just never "got" Gleason in anything else he ever did,either. Red Skelton was hilarious, Groucho Marx (think maybe the Russians lost the draw on who got what sets of "Reds" and "Marxes"?) took it a step or two further than that. Then there was Johnathan Winters who came along slightly later and he was a comedy monster.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 03, 2017, 09:28:58 pm
I may be the only one on the planet that thinks this,but The Honeymooners sucked all the air right off the planet. Ralph was a arrogant fool that was a wife abuser and general all-around loser with not ONE redeeming quality,his wife Alice had a whine so severe she deserved Ralph,and WW-2 film reels of Dachau made it appear to be a warm and friendly place compared to Ralph's bare apartment.

Absolutely hated "I Love Lucy",too. Ricky should have strangled that bitch in her sleep. Who the hell would want to live with a woman with the personality of a spoiled 8 year old?

Amos and Andy was hilarious,though. De Kingfish was as pompous as Ralph,but a MUCH nicer guy. It might have happened,but I don't recall ever seeing and hearing any of the main characters on Amos and Andy screaming at each other or promising to kill ("send you to the moon!"),either.

I also have to admit that I just never "got" Gleason in anything else he ever did,either. Red Skelton was hilarious, Groucho Marx (think maybe the Russians lost the draw on who got what sets of "Reds" and "Marxes"?) took it a step or two further than that. Then there was Johnathan Winters who came along slightly later and he was a comedy monster.

Ahhhh.  Jonathon Winters.  There were giants in those days.  One of the funniest people to have walked the Earth.  Pat Paulsen.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 03, 2017, 09:39:18 pm
I also have to admit that I just never "got" Gleason in anything else he ever did,either. Red Skelton was hilarious, Groucho Marx (think maybe the Russians lost the draw on who got what sets of "Reds" and "Marxes"?) took it a step or two further than that. Then there was Johnathan Winters who came along slightly later and he was a comedy monster.
Red Skelton was made for television; hell, his best bits were the silent "Freddie the Freeloader" sketches, just like Jackie Gleason's
best sketches were the silent "Poor Soul" sketches. His radio show, you just knew something was missing---unless you were in the
studio audience, you couldn't see him.

Which is a shame, because I once read (in John Dunning's On the Air: The Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio) that tickets for
the Skelton radio show were one of the hottest tickets in Hollywood not because of the radio show itself but because of Skelton's
after-show: he was too nervous to do a warmup before air time, as many radio comedians did (a lot of the warmups from Phil
Harris, before performing The Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show, have survived), so he'd do the show and then be so wired up
the kazoo from it that he kept his studio audience aboard and did an after-show for them. The after-show was considered so
hilarious---with Skelton going into visuals of his characters, as he'd do on television---that people were often turned away for
tickets. There were those who were lucky enough to be there who swore Skelton's after-show was twenty times as funny as the
actual on-air radio show.

Skelton had a wounding flaw: he absolutely couldn't bear to give credit to anyone, even those who created some of his most
memorably characters for him.

Red never gave credit to anyone. Noncredit never bothered me---I've given away credit so people could get
into the Writers Guild. It was not just Skelton's neglect of writers but his attacks on them. On talk shows he would
always say how useless they were. He never understood the philosophy behind a show.
---Sherwood Schwartz,
who wrote for Skelton in radio and on television.

It could have been worse, though. It could have been Eddie Cantor, who habitually re-wrote scripts to give himself
the biggest laugh-getters---even if they weren't suited for his character (and were liable to bomb on the air as a
result), and who refused to listen when his writers tried to tell him that his long-running gags about his five
unmarriageable daughters were deeply hurt by the gags, which went on long after the ladies did marry. (Not
to mention his long-running on-air devotion to wife Ida---all the while he was having a long-term affair with
comedienne Joan Davis.)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cripplecreek on June 03, 2017, 10:42:58 pm
Ahhhh.  Jonathon Winters.  There were giants in those days.  One of the funniest people to have walked the Earth.  Pat Paulsen.

Nobody could break a scene like Tim Conway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqE_WmagjY
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 03, 2017, 10:54:47 pm
Nobody could break a scene like Tim Conway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqE_WmagjY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfTyEtVIe84 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfTyEtVIe84)

Yep, and this, imho, was one of his best skits.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 03, 2017, 10:57:22 pm
There are giants these days.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on June 04, 2017, 06:25:29 am
Nobody could break a scene like Tim Conway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqE_WmagjY

@Cripplecreek

Ahhh,the Carol Burnette Show. Clearly one of the funniest comedies to ever exist anywhere. Maybe even THE best. Great writers and great comedians with perfect timing.

And that elephant scene has probably caused more people to wet their pants than anything shown on tv.  I laughed so hard I lost my breath for a instant.

Which reminds me of the last time I lost my breath laughing. Some DJ was playing a skit by Larry the Cable Guy on the radio,and I really wasn't paying that much attention. It was kinda "Background noise to drive to". Anyhow,it involved him taking his grandmother to Bass Sports to buy some sort of forgotten sporting gear. His granny is kind of eccentric,and insisted on wearing her nightgown to the shop. Like I said I wasn't paying that much attention to the set up,but when Larry got to the punch line and said  it was so hot in the place that his granny was arrested for suspicion of shoplifting Deer Lure,I lost my breath and control of my truck. That was totally unexpected. For those of you who don't know,deer lure is made from the urine of female deer in heat,and it is NOT perfume. Generally speaking,smelling it would gag a skunk.

It took me a long time to get it together enough to get back on the road,and even then I had to pull over for a few mintues to catch my breath again because I would get to remembering it and lose control again.

I tried to tell a couple of friends of mine about it a couple of days later,and still couldn't get it out after a half-dozen or more tries. I'm get started and lose all control again due to laughter. Since I have COPD,losing my breath is not a good thing.

I'm a big fan of Ron White,too. First time I ever heard of him was when a friend of mine called me long distance to tell me somebody had stolen my sense of humor and material.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 04, 2017, 06:49:30 am
Deer lure? That's funny, right there, I don't care who you are...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 04, 2017, 12:57:49 pm
We're huge Ron White fans, too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: andy58-in-nh on June 04, 2017, 01:44:10 pm
Nobody could break a scene like Tim Conway.
Tim Conway was always hysterical: a true master of timing, physical comedy, and improvisation. Along with Harvey Korman and Carol Burnett, their work together was truly legendary, and clearly still funny today; it is not dated in the least.

Those of us who were lucky enough to grow up during those days did not suffer from having only four or five TV channels (on a good day), because we got to see the likes of Jonathan Winters, Red Skelton, Jackie Mason, Bob Newhart, Don Rickles, Carl Reiner, Mel Brooks and Buddy Hackett.

The majority of today's comedians, stand-up and otherwise, aren't all that funny, in my view. I find them insulting, gross, scatalogical, and often, politically stupid. There are exceptions, Ron White, Dave Attell, and perhaps a small handful of others.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on June 04, 2017, 01:59:40 pm
Quote
Tim Conway was always hysterical: a true master of timing, physical comedy, and improvisation. Along with Harvey Korman and Carol Burnett, their work together was truly legendary, and clearly still funny today; it is not dated in the least.

Those of us who were lucky enough to grow up during those days did not suffer from having only four or five TV channels (on a good day), because we got to see the likes of Jonathan Winters, Red Skelton, Jackie Mason, Bob Newhart, Don Rickles, Carl Reiner, Mel Brooks and Buddy Hackett.

@andy58-in-nh

Buddy Hackett,another one of the giants in the comedy field. Somehow or another,a tiny little mischievous 8 year old boy managed to hide in the body of a fat Jewish man. Look closely and you can see that little boy in his eyes when he is talking.

I think Buddy Hackett may have been Johnny Carson's favorite guest comedian. You never knew what Hackett would say,or even if it could get aired without being bleeped,but you damn sure knew it would be hysterical. I can smile just seeing his name in print.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on June 04, 2017, 03:10:35 pm
We're huge Ron White fans, too.

RW in the first Blue Collar comedy tour had the funniest monologue I've ever heard. One of my favorite bits:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRmmIVnjqfQ
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 04, 2017, 04:41:18 pm
RIP one of the first men in baseball to come public and clean about struggles with mental illness:

Jimmy Piersall dies after monthslong illness (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19533479/former-major-leaguer-jim-piersall-dies-87)

His first autobiography, Fear Strikes Out, was made into a film starring Anthony Perkins as Piersall
and Karl Malden as his over-demanding father. Perkins made a credible Piersall on screen, but trust me
when I tell you the film barely did the book justice.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on June 04, 2017, 04:50:43 pm
RIP one of the first men in baseball to come public and clean about struggles with mental illness:

Jimmy Piersall dies after monthslong illness (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19533479/former-major-leaguer-jim-piersall-dies-87)

His first autobiography, Fear Strikes Out, was made into a film starring Anthony Perkins as Piersall
and Karl Malden as his over-demanding father. Perkins made a credible Piersall on screen, but trust me
when I tell you the film barely did the book justice.

I had a Jimmy Piersall baseball card, and my Mom threw it out.  :shrug:

I never read the book, but saw the film and knew the story.  He battled, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 04, 2017, 04:59:50 pm
I had a Jimmy Piersall baseball card, and my Mom threw it out.  :shrug:

I never read the book, but saw the film and knew the story.  He battled, that's for sure.
@musiclady
I found the book on the rack in a drugstore for a quarter. That was after I knew the story---not through the film,
but through a book Mickey Mantle put his name on called The Quality of Courage, which had a full chapter
on Piersall. (After his recovery, Piersall once pulled a home run Mantle hit back with a spectacular catch; Mantle
admitted he kicked about a ton of dirt out of the infield after that catch and quoted an unnamed sportswriter
as writing, "In seventeen years of covering this game I never saw a catch like that.")

I had a father somewhat similar to Piersall's, maybe not so harsh a personality overall but just as impossibly
demanding when it came to things he assumed I should know how to do but were things you needed to be
taught. (Among other things, my father assumed a strong boy could handle himself in a fight; it
never got programmed into his software that all the strength in the world was useless if you didn't know
what to do with it; you can take down a stronger guy than yourself if he doesn't know what he's doing
against you, and I didn't know, and my father was stubborn enough not to teach me, and he was also
fool enough to respond to any time I lost a fight---which was all the time because I didn't know what to
do with my strength or my fists and he wouldn't teach me---it would be nothing compared to the beatings
I got from him afterward.)

Let's just say I paid a price for not knowing things my father was foolish enough to believe a boy
was supposed to know by instinct, and that the price I paid for that became compounded with usurious
interest when my father died seven months after my tenth birthday.

Piersall spent part of 1963 as a New York Met. He hit his 100th career home run as a Met---and cracked
up the fans in the Polo Grounds (where the Mets played their first two seasons awaiting Shea Stadium's
completion) by backpedaling around the bases. Even the Phillies (off whom he hit the bomb) laughed.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on June 04, 2017, 05:06:56 pm
@musiclady
I found the book on the rack in a drugstore for a quarter. That was after I knew the story---not through the film,
but through a book Mickey Mantle put his name on called The Quality of Courage, which had a full chapter
on Piersall. (After his recovery, Piersall once pulled a home run Mantle hit back with a spectacular catch; Mantle
admitted he kicked about a ton of dirt out of the infield after that catch and quoted an unnamed sportswriter
as writing, "In seventeen years of covering this game I never saw a catch like that.")

I had a father somewhat similar to Piersall's, maybe not so harsh a personality overall but just as impossibly
demanding when it came to things he assumed I should know how to do but were things you needed to be
taught. (Among other things, my father assumed a strong boy could handle himself in a fight; it
never got programmed into his software that all the strength in the world was useless if you didn't know
what to do with it; you can take down a stronger guy than yourself if he doesn't know what he's doing
against you, and I didn't know, and my father was stubborn enough not to teach me, and he was also
fool enough to respond to any time I lost a fight---which was all the time because I didn't know what to
do with my strength or my fists and he wouldn't teach me---it would be nothing compared to the beatings
I got from him afterward.)

Let's just say I paid a price for not knowing things my father was foolish enough to believe a boy
was supposed to know by instinct, and that the price I paid for that became compounded with usurious
interest when my father died seven months after my tenth birthday.

Yes, I am blessed in that my father has lived long enough for us to come to terms and understand and forgive.  On both sides.  It leaves a missing piece when you don't have the chance to do that. 

However, it sounds like you have done a great job with what you had.  God bless you.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 04, 2017, 05:10:46 pm
I was #3 boy, so it was pretty much assumed I wouldn't amount to anything.  What I know I learned on my own.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 04, 2017, 05:12:12 pm
However, it sounds like you have done a great job with what you had.  God bless you.
@Sanguine
If only that were true. I ended up dealing with my own mental issues for too many years to follow.
Only ten years ago was I able to begin coming to complete terms and begin an earnest recovery.
And I'm not sure it's all that complete; I still have my moments, if not hours, of anguish. Particularly
since, as of 1998 (when my younger brother was killed), I'm the only surviving member of my
childhood household. As of August, I'll also have outlived both my parents and my younger brother.

I plod along in my quiet way; I'm not retired by any means, but I have worked since as a free lance
editor/writer (I was a professional journalist in small city/regional daily newspapers, daily news
radio, trade, and early Internet journalism, after a brief career as an Air Force intelligence analyst)
and blues musician/arranger/composer. I've found a peace in my work and in my life now that was
alien to me previously. But I thank you for your kind words, my friend.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Idiot on June 04, 2017, 05:13:06 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfTyEtVIe84 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfTyEtVIe84)

Yep, and this, imho, was one of his best skits.
 

I loved Tim Conway.  We made a special trip to see him in Branson several years back.  He replayed this very skit....  He told the crowd at the beginning of the show that he was only in Branson, because he had gambling debts from the horse track, or otherwise he wouldn't be there.  He was serious...and no one laughed.  It was odd...after that no one in the crowd really laughed at anything.  He performed for 45 min....it was just really sad and really not funny.  I've never been more disappointed.....   Since then I'll turn the channel if I see him on.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on June 04, 2017, 05:16:19 pm
@Sanguine
If only that were true. I ended up dealing with my own mental issues for too many years to follow.
Only ten years ago was I able to begin coming to complete terms and begin an earnest recovery.
And I'm not sure it's all that complete; I still have my moments, if not hours, of anguish. I plod
along in my quiet way; I'm not retired by any means, but I have worked since as a free lance
editor/writer (I was a professional journalist in small city/regional daily newspapers, daily news
radio, trade, and early Internet journalism, after a brief career as an Air Force intelligence
analyst) and blues musician/arranger/composer. I've found a peace in my work now that was
alien to me previously. But I thank you for your kind words, my friend.

Ace, I've been on this earth for quite a while, and one thing I've learned is that you can only work with what you have.  When you have had some time and acquired a bit of wisdom, you can work with that, but until then you have to work towards that wisdom.  Don't ever be ashamed at how long it took, or the effort that you had to put into it.  It takes as long as it takes, friend.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 04, 2017, 05:28:14 pm
Ace, I've been on this earth for quite a while, and one thing I've learned is that you can only work with what you have.  When you have had some time and acquired a bit of wisdom, you can work with that, but until then you have to work towards that wisdom.  Don't ever be ashamed at how long it took, or the effort that you had to put into it.  It takes as long as it takes, friend.
@Sanguine
You deserve a hug for that.

Or . . .
(http://clipart.pd4pic.com/images/cartoon-wine-clipart-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on June 04, 2017, 06:16:25 pm
@Sanguine
You deserve a hug for that.

Or . . .
(http://clipart.pd4pic.com/images/cartoon-wine-clipart-5.jpg)

Wine, please.   888high58888
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 04, 2017, 06:55:15 pm
Wine, please.   888high58888
@Sanguine
Deal!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on June 04, 2017, 08:12:54 pm
trust me when I tell you the film barely did the book justice.


Agreed, @EasyAce

I read the book several times and saw the movie several times.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on June 04, 2017, 08:23:42 pm
@musiclady
I found the book on the rack in a drugstore for a quarter. That was after I knew the story---not through the film,
but through a book Mickey Mantle put his name on called The Quality of Courage, which had a full chapter
on Piersall. (After his recovery, Piersall once pulled a home run Mantle hit back with a spectacular catch; Mantle
admitted he kicked about a ton of dirt out of the infield after that catch and quoted an unnamed sportswriter
as writing, "In seventeen years of covering this game I never saw a catch like that.")

I had a father somewhat similar to Piersall's, maybe not so harsh a personality overall but just as impossibly
demanding when it came to things he assumed I should know how to do but were things you needed to be
taught. (Among other things, my father assumed a strong boy could handle himself in a fight; it
never got programmed into his software that all the strength in the world was useless if you didn't know
what to do with it; you can take down a stronger guy than yourself if he doesn't know what he's doing
against you, and I didn't know, and my father was stubborn enough not to teach me, and he was also
fool enough to respond to any time I lost a fight---which was all the time because I didn't know what to
do with my strength or my fists and he wouldn't teach me---it would be nothing compared to the beatings
I got from him afterward.)

Let's just say I paid a price for not knowing things my father was foolish enough to believe a boy
was supposed to know by instinct, and that the price I paid for that became compounded with usurious
interest when my father died seven months after my tenth birthday.

Piersall spent part of 1963 as a New York Met. He hit his 100th career home run as a Met---and cracked
up the fans in the Polo Grounds (where the Mets played their first two seasons awaiting Shea Stadium's
completion) by backpedaling around the bases. Even the Phillies (off whom he hit the bomb) laughed.

Man, I'm sorry to hear about your rough childhood, @EasyAce .

The advice that @Sanguine gave you says it all.

You have done amazingly well with yourself, my friend!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on June 04, 2017, 08:38:11 pm
@
I had a father somewhat similar to Piersall's, maybe not so harsh a personality overall but just as impossibly
demanding when it came to things he assumed I should know how to do but were things you needed to be
taught. (Among other things, my father assumed a strong boy could handle himself in a fight; it
never got programmed into his software that all the strength in the world was useless if you didn't know
what to do with it; you can take down a stronger guy than yourself if he doesn't know what he's doing
against you, and I didn't know, and my father was stubborn enough not to teach me, and he was also
fool enough to respond to any time I lost a fight---which was all the time because I didn't know what to
do with my strength or my fists and he wouldn't teach me---it would be nothing compared to the beatings
I got from him afterward.)

Let's just say I paid a price for not knowing things my father was foolish enough to believe a boy
was supposed to know by instinct, and that the price I paid for that became compounded with usurious
interest when my father died seven months after my tenth birthday.

I'm so sorry, @EasyAce
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: andy58-in-nh on June 04, 2017, 08:45:23 pm
@EasyAce

Thank you for sharing those experiences - that could not have been well, easy

You have friends here. I'm quite certain many of us have had our own demons to fight. I know for damned certain that I have. Depression is a vicious beast, as I found out. I was diagnosed about a year ago. I haven't ever shared that here, but I am much, much better now... I needed help, and got it.

Best wishes -

AK
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on June 04, 2017, 08:47:09 pm
@Piersall spent part of 1963 as a New York Met. He hit his 100th career home run as a Met---and cracked
up the fans in the Polo Grounds (where the Mets played their first two seasons awaiting Shea Stadium's
completion) by backpedaling around the bases. Even the Phillies (off whom he hit the bomb) laughed.

@EasyAce

I remember that.

Do you also remember that stunt he pulled with the Senators during a spring training game?

Piersall was the third base runner and the bases were loaded. Chuck Hinton came up and hit a grand slammer.

Instead of heading on home, Piersall waited for the other three runners to catch up with him, and then led them home, finishing with a mad slide across the plate.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 04, 2017, 08:47:44 pm
@EasyAce

I remember that.

Do you also remember that stunt he pulled with the Senators during a spring training game?

Piersall was the third base runner and the bases were loaded. Chuck Hinton came up and hit a grand slammer.

Instead of heading on home, Piersall waited for the other three runners to catch up with him, and then led them home, finishing with a mad slide across the plate.
@Machiavelli
I didn't remember that one but that sounds classic!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 04, 2017, 08:48:44 pm
@musiclady
@Machiavelli
@andy58-in-nh

Thank you so much, my friends!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 04, 2017, 09:35:17 pm
@musiclady
I found the book on the rack in a drugstore for a quarter. That was after I knew the story---not through the film,
but through a book Mickey Mantle put his name on called The Quality of Courage, which had a full chapter
on Piersall. (After his recovery, Piersall once pulled a home run Mantle hit back with a spectacular catch; Mantle
admitted he kicked about a ton of dirt out of the infield after that catch and quoted an unnamed sportswriter
as writing, "In seventeen years of covering this game I never saw a catch like that.")

I had a father somewhat similar to Piersall's, maybe not so harsh a personality overall but just as impossibly
demanding when it came to things he assumed I should know how to do but were things you needed to be
taught. (Among other things, my father assumed a strong boy could handle himself in a fight; it
never got programmed into his software that all the strength in the world was useless if you didn't know
what to do with it; you can take down a stronger guy than yourself if he doesn't know what he's doing
against you, and I didn't know, and my father was stubborn enough not to teach me, and he was also
fool enough to respond to any time I lost a fight---which was all the time because I didn't know what to
do with my strength or my fists and he wouldn't teach me---it would be nothing compared to the beatings
I got from him afterward.)

Let's just say I paid a price for not knowing things my father was foolish enough to believe a boy
was supposed to know by instinct, and that the price I paid for that became compounded with usurious
interest when my father died seven months after my tenth birthday.

Piersall spent part of 1963 as a New York Met. He hit his 100th career home run as a Met---and cracked
up the fans in the Polo Grounds (where the Mets played their first two seasons awaiting Shea Stadium's
completion) by backpedaling around the bases. Even the Phillies (off whom he hit the bomb) laughed.
From reading down thread, it sounds like you have done well from a rough start. Keep at it my friend, you have accomplished much, and have my respect.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 05, 2017, 02:24:58 pm
From reading down thread, it sounds like you have done well from a rough start. Keep at it my friend, you have accomplished much, and have my respect.
@Smokin Joe
 :beer:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on June 05, 2017, 03:18:02 pm
@musiclady
I found the book on the rack in a drugstore for a quarter. That was after I knew the story---not through the film,
but through a book Mickey Mantle put his name on called The Quality of Courage, which had a full chapter
on Piersall. (After his recovery, Piersall once pulled a home run Mantle hit back with a spectacular catch; Mantle
admitted he kicked about a ton of dirt out of the infield after that catch and quoted an unnamed sportswriter
as writing, "In seventeen years of covering this game I never saw a catch like that.")

I had a father somewhat similar to Piersall's, maybe not so harsh a personality overall but just as impossibly
demanding when it came to things he assumed I should know how to do but were things you needed to be
taught. (Among other things, my father assumed a strong boy could handle himself in a fight; it
never got programmed into his software that all the strength in the world was useless if you didn't know
what to do with it; you can take down a stronger guy than yourself if he doesn't know what he's doing
against you, and I didn't know, and my father was stubborn enough not to teach me, and he was also
fool enough to respond to any time I lost a fight---which was all the time because I didn't know what to
do with my strength or my fists and he wouldn't teach me---it would be nothing compared to the beatings
I got from him afterward.)

Let's just say I paid a price for not knowing things my father was foolish enough to believe a boy
was supposed to know by instinct, and that the price I paid for that became compounded with usurious
interest when my father died seven months after my tenth birthday.

Piersall spent part of 1963 as a New York Met. He hit his 100th career home run as a Met---and cracked
up the fans in the Polo Grounds (where the Mets played their first two seasons awaiting Shea Stadium's
completion) by backpedaling around the bases. Even the Phillies (off whom he hit the bomb) laughed.
Fathers as depicted on tv fifty years were quite different than the ones in real life. I was (and mostly still am) inept with fixing things mechanically.
One time when I was about twelve or thirteen I attempted to fix my bicycle. The chain had fallen off or something similar. So my father walked by, and I asked him for some help or advice.  He looked at me for about ten or fifteen seconds, and then he told me nobody showed him anything, why should he show me.  Then he puffed on his pipe and walked away.
His theory was if you couldn't learn things on your own, tough. He wasn't going to help. So out of my three brothers and myself only one of us learned to do carpentry, something my father was a whiz at but didn't teach us about either.
Likewise, my mother never showed my three sisters how to cook.  As a result, none of them learned much on their own, and their husbands were much better cooks than they were.
But that still doesn't stop a person from learning on their own if they have the desire.
So would I rather have had a demanding father like Piersall's or one like my father who just wasn't much interested in anything you did and didn't want to help even when asked? (My father also had a terrible temper.) 
I don't know.  My siblings and myself managed to make it through life without screwing up too much....in fact, most of my siblings became very successful to the point of most of them being very well off.
So even without the ultra-demanding father, would Piersall have turned out different? Who knows? I know I had my own faults which had nothing to do with whatever my parents did or didn't do to me.  Nevertheless, I don't like to see children abused by parents.  As bad a temper as my father had, he never beat us.  Yelling and screaming was his preferred method of discipline. An occasional clout here and there, but nothing like the beatings you were subjected to by your father.
My view is if you can make it adulthood with the knowledge of what's right and what's wrong, everything that happens after that is on you.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 05, 2017, 05:26:43 pm
Fathers as depicted on tv fifty years were quite different than the ones in real life. I was (and mostly still am) inept with fixing things mechanically.
One time when I was about twelve or thirteen I attempted to fix my bicycle. The chain had fallen off or something similar. So my father walked by, and I asked him for some help or advice.  He looked at me for about ten or fifteen seconds, and then he told me nobody showed him anything, why should he show me.  Then he puffed on his pipe and walked away.
His theory was if you couldn't learn things on your own, tough. He wasn't going to help. So out of my three brothers and myself only one of us learned to do carpentry, something my father was a whiz at but didn't teach us about either.
Likewise, my mother never showed my three sisters how to cook.  As a result, none of them learned much on their own, and their husbands were much better cooks than they were.
But that still doesn't stop a person from learning on their own if they have the desire.
It doesn't stop a person, of course, but when the ones you depend on in your childhood show that kind of
disinterest, it may take you a long time before you feel confident enough to try to learn those things on
your own.

(p.s. I'm one of those men who learned to cook early enough; I learned a few tricks from my mother and
my grandmother and a favourite aunt, and I taught myself a few tricks on my own later on.)

So would I rather have had a demanding father like Piersall's or one like my father who just wasn't much interested in anything you did and didn't want to help even when asked? (My father also had a terrible temper.) 
I don't know.  My siblings and myself managed to make it through life without screwing up too much....in fact, most of my siblings became very successful to the point of most of them being very well off.
So even without the ultra-demanding father, would Piersall have turned out different? Who knows? I know I had my own faults which had nothing to do with whatever my parents did or didn't do to me.  Nevertheless, I don't like to see children abused by parents.  As bad a temper as my father had, he never beat us.  Yelling and screaming was his preferred method of discipline. An occasional clout here and there, but nothing like the beatings you were subjected to by your father.
My view is if you can make it adulthood with the knowledge of what's right and what's wrong, everything that happens after that is on you.
A parent who is demanding without teaching or encouraging is his or her own kind of abusive parent.

For me the tragedy was what I learned years later from the single most unimpeachable source I know: my father's younger
sister, one of my favourite aunts. She told me what I suspected but could never quite confirm: my parents wanted children
in the worst way possible only to learn the hard way that they had no patience for raising children, that they had no patience
for children being children. Aside from the fight issue, my parents didn't know the difference between real disobedience or
misbehaviour and children just being children. It was one thing to be spanked for disobeying or really misbehaving, but
it was something else entirely to be spanked for an honest human mistake. Because the flip side was that when they were
good, they were parents you wished every kid had. (My father in particular was generous beyond belief; he even got me
aboard an airplane for the first time when he told his bosses at his insurance firm he wouldn't make a trip to Virginia
unless he could take me. It was the best time I ever had with my father; he knocked his business off in two days and
we spent three happy days bumming around Richmond and Petersburg.)

The scar from a babyhood stomach surgery was nothing compared to the scars in my head and heart. But I managed to
make my way through it after several decades and no small heartbreak. And I enjoy life so much more now.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on June 05, 2017, 06:42:24 pm
@EasyAce

Thank you for sharing those experiences - that could not have been well, easy

You have friends here. I'm quite certain many of us have had our own demons to fight. I know for damned certain that I have. Depression is a vicious beast, as I found out. I was diagnosed about a year ago. I haven't ever shared that here, but I am much, much better now... I needed help, and got it.

Best wishes -

AK

@andy58-in-nh
@EasyAce

I’ve suffered from depression  since adolescence and I wouldn’t wish it on my own worst enemy. Bless you both for handling it so well. I can’t tell you how much I admire you both for surviving through it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 05, 2017, 06:43:44 pm
@andy58-in-nh
@EasyAce

I’ve suffered from depression  since adolescence and I wouldn’t wish it on my own worst enemy. Bless you both for handling it so well. I can’t tell you how much I admire you both for surviving through it.
Thank you, @Freya
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: andy58-in-nh on June 05, 2017, 07:02:01 pm
@andy58-in-nh
@EasyAce

I’ve suffered from depression  since adolescence and I wouldn’t wish it on my own worst enemy. Bless you both for handling it so well. I can’t tell you how much I admire you both for surviving through it.
Thank you. For me, the weird part was not being aware of what was happening to me - it felt normal. Only later did I realize that I had become acclimated to a state of mind that was not normal, but rather unhappy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on June 05, 2017, 08:12:51 pm
Fathers as depicted on tv fifty years were quite different than the ones in real life.

@goatprairie

No kidding. Mine had a lot in common with yours. My first bicycle came from the dump,and my father wouldn't even let me use his pliers or wrenches to fix the flat tires or replace the chain,and even refused to show me how to do it. He told me I was "too stupid to learn,so he wasn't going to waste his time" trying to teach me.

I learned. It wasn't easy,but I borrowed some tools from a neighbor and just kept screwing with it until I got it right. IIRC,I was in the 1st grade at the time.

When I was in the 5th grade and about 5'2" tall a freakishly tall kid (about 6'2") in the 7th grade decided he was going to impress the girls by picking on me in the school yard after school by doing stuff like throwing a basketball in my face as hard as he could throw it. When I went home crying to my father about it,he told me it was none of his business and I needed to learn how to man-up and take care of these things on my own. So a few days later I laid his ass out with a baseball bat after school one day,and stood over him and dared him to bleed harder because if he did I was going to beat him to death with the bat.

For some odd reason I never had any more trouble from him,or any other school bullies after that.

My father even sold the first two cars I bought with my own money that I earned working in the summers between school. The first car was a 38 Chyrsler that ran and drove that I bought for 20 bucks I earned digging septic tanks with a shovel when I was 12,and the other was a 40 Ford tudor I had bought with money I earned working as a deckhand on a shrimp boat when I was 13. He sold them both while I was away from home at school or work,and even refused to give me the money he got. "My house,my yard,my money" was the excuse I got. I was told about the time I was in the 1st grade that I needed to learn something in school because when I turned 18 I was out of the house. When I came back home from basic training after joining the army on my 17th birthday,they had already given or thrown all my clothes and other possessions away.

Sounds harsh,but the reality is unlike a lot of children I grew up without illusions about how fair the world is and the understanding that if I wanted something,I was going to have to work for it and earn it.

To be fair to my father,he grew up in the early part of the 20th Century,and he was in the 3rd grade when his father died,and he had to quit school and go to work in a shipyard as a laborer to help his mother support his 5 brothers and sisters. Then when he did get married,it was to a woman who had an adopted daughter from a earlier marrige,and he also got stuck with raising a nephew about 5 years old after his parents were killed in a car accident. A nephew who came down with juvenile diabetes when he was 13 and kept him broke paying doctors bills.  Then I had a reaction to the first Polio Vaccine when it first came out,and was bedridden with my own doctors bills for a couple of months,and even had to learn to walk again. Right after that my mother came down with type 1 diabetes,and that cost him,too.

 Needless to say,as a carpenter working in the 50's he had no medical insurance. He worked from the time he was in the 3rd grade until he was 62 and could retire on SS,and the only time I ever remember him missing a day of work was when he fell of a roof he was shingling when he was in his late 50's. I remember when I was 6 years old watching him get on his knees in a bathtub one Sunday morning with a pair of slip-joint pliers and a nutpick,and pull 3 of his own teeth because he couldn't afford to go to a dentist,and he couldn't afford to lose a days work to go to one even if he had the money for the dentist.

Unlike everyone else in his family,he didn't drink,he didn't gamble,and he didn't run around with other women. If he wasn't working,he was at home. When he got paid on Friday afternoon,he gave the money to my mother and she put together the budget and paid all the bills. When she died in 1980 he was lost. He had no idea what anything cost,and he didn't even know grocery meats were dated. I had to teach him how to shop.
 

Working hard was all he ever knew how to do. He could write his name,but that was about it. To him it must have seemed like I had every opportunity in the world to take care of myself, and needed to learn to do just that.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 05, 2017, 08:36:08 pm
British actor Peter Sallis, of Wallace and Gromit & Last of the Summer Wine fame, dies at 96

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Peter_Sallis.jpg/220px-Peter_Sallis.jpg)

Sallis, a London native, was best known for two long-running roles in which he played a Northern Englishman: Norman Clegg in the long-running sitcom Last of the Summer Wine, and Wallace, the human title character in the Wallace and Gromit animated series; both of which have been seen in the U.S. The rest of his acting career, which began largely on a lark during his time teaching in the Royal Air Force, consisted mostly of one-off and bit parts on British stage, film and television.

Diagnosed with macular degeneration near the end of his life, Sallis died of natural causes on June 2.

Obituary from the BBC (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40165443)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sallis)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXBmZLmfQZ4

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0758608/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 05, 2017, 08:59:52 pm
I'm really going to miss Peter Sallis, but at 96 he was due for some rest.  Take it in peace, Mr. Sallis.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on June 05, 2017, 09:00:57 pm
British actor Peter Sallis, of Wallace and Gromit & Last of the Summer Wine fame, dies at 96

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Peter_Sallis.jpg/220px-Peter_Sallis.jpg)

Sallis, a London native, was best known for two long-running roles in which he played a Northern Englishman: Norman Clegg in the long-running sitcom Last of the Summer Wine, and Wallace, the human title character in the Wallace and Gromit animated series; both of which have been seen in the U.S. The rest of his acting career, which began largely on a lark during his time teaching in the Royal Air Force, consisted mostly of one-off and bit parts on British stage, film and television.

Diagnosed with macular degeneration near the end of his life, Sallis died of natural causes on June 2.

Obituary from the BBC (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40165443)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sallis)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXBmZLmfQZ4

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0758608/)

I love Wallace and Grommet.RIP, Sir. And thanks for the cheese.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 05, 2017, 09:02:54 pm
I love Wallace and Grommet.RIP, Sir. And thanks for the cheese.

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Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on June 05, 2017, 10:11:46 pm
Just came to post that.

Wallace and Gromit were OK, but Last of the Summer Wine - that were special. I grew up in a small Yorkshire town like that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 05, 2017, 10:45:51 pm
Just came to post that.

Wallace and Gromit were OK, but Last of the Summer Wine - that were special. I grew up in a small Yorkshire town like that.

I really liked Summer Wine.  Always wondered if it was really like that in Yorkshire...such a beautiful countryside.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on June 05, 2017, 11:18:13 pm
I really liked Summer Wine.  Always wondered if it was really like that in Yorkshire...such a beautiful countryside.

Well - it rains about 290 days of the year, but other than that - aye. It's pretty much like they show. Mostly older folk - the young leave as there's not a lot of work - and highly matriarchal.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 05, 2017, 11:29:24 pm
Well - it rains about 290 days of the year, but other than that - aye. It's pretty much like they show. Mostly older folk - the young leave as there's not a lot of work - and highly matriarchal.

No wonder it always looks like it just rained.  Phoenix:  350 days per year of sunshine.  Imagine that.  Just try.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on June 05, 2017, 11:49:52 pm
I really liked Summer Wine.  Always wondered if it was really like that in Yorkshire...such a beautiful countryside.

I recall reading Summer Wine was Her Majesty's favorite TV show.

Yorkshire is beautiful. The moors are lovely.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on June 06, 2017, 12:02:51 am
Roger Smith, '77 Sunset Strip' Star and Husband of Ann-Margret, Dies at 84

Quote
Roger Smith, the suave leading man of television who starred on the popular 1950s-'60s ABC private eye series 77 Sunset Strip before a neuromuscular disease ended his acting career in his 30s, has died. He was 84.

Smith, who went on to manage the career of Ann-Margret, his wife of 50 years, died Sunday at Sherman Oaks Hospital, a representative for the actress told The Hollywood Reporter. No cause of death was announced...

In 1957, Columbia Pictures put Smith under contract. This led to a string of film appearances, including No Time to Be Young (1957), Operation Mad Ball (1957), Crash Landing (1958) and Auntie Mame (1958), in perhaps his most notable film role as the adult Patrick Dennis...
Full article (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/roger-smith-dead-77-sunset-888323)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Smith_(actor))

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0809783/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on June 06, 2017, 12:23:31 am
It doesn't stop a person, of course, but when the ones you depend on in your childhood show that kind of
disinterest, it may take you a long time before you feel confident enough to try to learn those things on
your own.

(p.s. I'm one of those men who learned to cook early enough; I learned a few tricks from my mother and
my grandmother and a favourite aunt, and I taught myself a few tricks on my own later on.)
A parent who is demanding without teaching or encouraging is his or her own kind of abusive parent.

For me the tragedy was what I learned years later from the single most unimpeachable source I know: my father's younger
sister, one of my favourite aunts. She told me what I suspected but could never quite confirm: my parents wanted children
in the worst way possible only to learn the hard way that they had no patience for raising children, that they had no patience
for children being children. Aside from the fight issue, my parents didn't know the difference between real disobedience or
misbehaviour and children just being children. It was one thing to be spanked for disobeying or really misbehaving, but
it was something else entirely to be spanked for an honest human mistake. Because the flip side was that when they were
good, they were parents you wished every kid had. (My father in particular was generous beyond belief; he even got me
aboard an airplane for the first time when he told his bosses at his insurance firm he wouldn't make a trip to Virginia
unless he could take me. It was the best time I ever had with my father; he knocked his business off in two days and
we spent three happy days bumming around Richmond and Petersburg.)

The scar from a babyhood stomach surgery was nothing compared to the scars in my head and heart. But I managed to
make my way through it after several decades and no small heartbreak. And I enjoy life so much more now.
Ha, ha...your spanking story brought back memories.  Maybe it was really true at the time....many or most parents believe that sparing the rod spoiled the child.
My parents even had a designated "licking stick" (one of those paddles and rubber ball things...without the rubber ball of course.)
When one of us transgressed some unwritten law,  usually we were all disciplined for what the one kid did or didn't do.  Many times I had no idea what the supposedly bad/awful  thing we had done was.  But we had to line up anyway and each get a swat or two on the behind (that paddle really hurt) for our crime...whatever it was.  My parents operated under the assumption that we were all guilty of something even if they could only prove one kid  did something. Protesting innocence availed us naught.
It was only when I got older that I realized it was one way for my father (he administered most of the lickings) to relieve his frustrations concerning his job and his tough time earning money when we were young. Not a lot of frills. When my father became enraged (which was frequent), the best thing to do was just stay out of his way.  Eventually he would calm down after screaming his lungs out for five or ten minutes.
When we got older and became young adults, none of us put up with his temper tantrums. When he would start yelling at my mother about something, WE!!! would tell him to shut up and quit upsetting everybody. Then he'd go in a corner and sulk.
My father was not an evil person and  did a lot of things for us.  I think the stress of life is something some people can handle well and some can't. My mother kept a lot of her frustrations in and I believe suffered a nervous breakdown.  Many families in those days were large with four or more kids (I had six siblings.)
As my parents aged and we all left the house, my parents became much more subdued and easier to be around.
But as you mentioned, many parents from those days were not mentally equipped to handle multiple kids.  It was their duty to have children (my parents were strict Catholics), so they had a lot of children.
But like I said, we all turned out mostly okay with nobody going to prison or going bankrupt.  But my sisters vowed to never treat their children like they were treated. All three despised my father and did not attend his funeral when he died four years ago.  All us four brothers did.
We realized that despite his faults, he was still our father and in his own way thought  he was doing what was best for us.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on June 06, 2017, 01:20:29 am
Quote
Stalin's grandson who rejected dictator's name dies at 75

    24 May 2017
Alexander Burdonsky, a talented Russian theatre director whose grandfather was Soviet leader Josef Stalin, has died of cancer aged 75.

Burdonsky was born Alexander Stalin but took his mother's maiden name to escape association with the Soviet dictator.

For several years he was head of the Central Russian Army Theatre in Moscow.

Last year another grandson of Stalin, Yevgeny Dzhugashvili, died aged 80. However, he was a staunch defender of his grandfather's legacy.

More: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40026823
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on June 06, 2017, 03:22:42 am
Roger Smith, '77 Sunset Strip' Star and Husband of Ann-Margret, Dies at 84

(http://cdn2.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2016/04/roger_smith_.jpg)

After a debilitating illness ended his days as an actor, he managed his wife's career. "Roger had tremendous confidence in me, much more than I did," she once said.

Roger Smith, the suave leading man of television who starred on the popular 1950s-'60s ABC private eye series 77 Sunset Strip before a neuromuscular disease ended his acting career in his 30s, has died. He was 84.

Smith, who went on to manage the career of Ann-Margret, his wife of 50 years, died Sunday at Sherman Oaks Hospital, a representative for the actress told The Hollywood Reporter. No cause of death was announced.

On 136 episodes of 77 Sunset Strip, Smith portrayed Jeff Spencer, one-half of a breezy detective pair who solved crimes and chased women while working out of their ultra-hip offices on the Sunset Strip. Efrem Zimbalist Jr. played his partner, Stu Bailey.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/roger-smith-dead-77-sunset-888323
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on June 06, 2017, 09:09:56 pm
@EasyAce  - I thought you might like to see a souvenir I have from the 1961 Cleveland Indians, bought at a game I went to as an 11 year old....

(https://storage.photofinale.com/storage/8.0/photo.aspx?photo=495515733&size=600&m=131412568100268280&x=X4F90X9IRHOVn8Aa4V4RiGcKFHtFOolS)


(I've spent the past two days hunting for it!  ^-^ )
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 07, 2017, 12:23:29 am
@EasyAce  - I thought you might like to see a souvenir I have from the 1961 Cleveland Indians, bought at a game I went to as an 11 year old....

(https://storage.photofinale.com/storage/8.0/photo.aspx?photo=495515733&size=600&m=131412568100268280&x=X4F90X9IRHOVn8Aa4V4RiGcKFHtFOolS)


(I've spent the past two days hunting for it!  ^-^ )
@musiclady

I remember seeing that pic! (You poor thing, the 1961 Indians . . . ;) )

This was the cover of the paperback edition I once had of Fear Strikes Out:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51758Y5jznL._SX297_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

. . . and this was Jim Piersall arriving home after backpedaling around the bases upon hitting his 100th
career home run, when he was a brief 1963 Met:

(http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo219/mlalli01/mets_piersalljpg620400.png)


Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on June 07, 2017, 01:47:46 am
Adnan Khashoggi: Saudi billionaire arms dealer dies aged 82

Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, a billionaire businessman known for his lavish lifestyle, has died in London at the age of 82.

His family said in statement that he died peacefully while being treated for Parkinson's disease.

Mr Khashoggi became one of the world's richest men in the 1970s and '80s by brokering international arms deals.

His parties were legendary, often lasting for days, but there was also controversy about his business.

A statement from the family on Tuesday said: "He lived his last days surrounded by his devoted family, children and grandchildren, with the same elegance, strength and dignity that characterised his remarkable life. He is survived by his wife Lamia.

"AK was a pioneer who achieved global recognition in a golden age through his extraordinary business achievements and renowned generosity. Our father understood the art of bringing people together better than anyone.

More: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40180931

I thought the old buzzard had died years ago.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 07, 2017, 01:58:44 am
Quote
Our father understood the art of bringing people together better than anyone
:silly:
And cutting them a deal on the stuff to kill each other with....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on June 07, 2017, 02:39:46 am
@musiclady

I remember seeing that pic! (You poor thing, the 1961 Indians . . . ;) )

This was the cover of the paperback edition I once had of Fear Strikes Out:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51758Y5jznL._SX297_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

. . . and this was Jim Piersall arriving home after backpedaling around the bases upon hitting his 100th
career home run, when he was a brief 1963 Met:

(http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo219/mlalli01/mets_piersalljpg620400.png)

Fantastic!  I really need to read Fear Strikes Out, and not just go by the movie.

As for the '61 Indians............ I've been a Cleveland fan my whole life.

I've dealt with more grief than a human being should ever have to endure.  :dx1:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 07, 2017, 02:45:26 am
Fantastic!  I really need to read Fear Strikes Out, and not just go by the movie.

As for the '61 Indians............ I've been a Cleveland fan my whole life.

I've dealt with more grief than a human being should ever have to endure.  :dx1:
I find it funny that the two NFL teams who get the most fans in these parts are the Denver Broncos and the Minnesota Vikings. The Broncos have lost 5 of 8 super bowls, the Vikings are perfect with 4 losses for 4 appearances. You can imagine the wailing, gnashing of teeth, and rending of garments I have witnessed.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 07, 2017, 02:54:19 am
I love Wallace and Grommet.RIP, Sir. And thanks for the cheese.

I love Wallace and Grommet.  I developed a taste for The Last of the Summer Wine. A truly unusual program, which really grew on me.  You never knew just what these three guys would get in to.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on June 07, 2017, 02:17:54 pm
I find it funny that the two NFL teams who get the most fans in these parts are the Denver Broncos and the Minnesota Vikings. The Broncos have lost 5 of 8 super bowls, the Vikings are perfect with 4 losses for 4 appearances. You can imagine the wailing, gnashing of teeth, and rending of garments I have witnessed.

 :laugh:

I know a lot about Vikings' fans.  I lived in MN for 6 years, and have loads of friends and family there.

Just imagine how my son feels..... when Art Modell stole the Browns from Cleveland and ripped the hearts out of the fans, our son chose the Vikings as his team.  A Browns and Vikings fan??  Not a happy place to be.   :dx1:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 07, 2017, 02:50:58 pm
I know a lot about Vikings' fans.  I lived in MN for 6 years, and have loads of friends and family there.

Just imagine how my son feels..... when Art Modell stole the Browns from Cleveland and ripped the hearts out of the fans, our son chose the Vikings as his team.  A Browns and Vikings fan??  Not a happy place to be.   :dx1:
Sounds like a glutton for punishment to me.  **nononono*--especially for something someone can't influence.

At least with national politics I get to have some influence on what goes on (12.5 parts per billion, more than the acceptable limits for lead in drinking water). :laugh:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on June 07, 2017, 05:43:41 pm
Sounds like a glutton for punishment to me.  **nononono*--especially for something someone can't influence.

At least with national politics I get to have some influence on what goes on (12.5 parts per billion, more than the acceptable limits for lead in drinking water). :laugh:

Well, he IS an ultra mountain marathon runner, so I suppose glutton for punishment is an apt descriptor, but in this case he was only a kid when he made that football choice, so I give him a break on it.  ^-^
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 08, 2017, 06:47:21 pm
Former NFL wide receiver James Hardy dies at 31

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/James_Hardy_2011_stadium_practice.jpg/220px-James_Hardy_2011_stadium_practice.jpg)

Once a highly touted collegiate prospect and converted basketball player, Hardy was drafted by the Buffalo Bills in 2008. He only lasted two seasons with the team, neither of which saw him with much playing time, in part because of injuries. An attempt to join the Baltimore Ravens in 2011 ended in failure.

Whereas his physical injuries hobbled his career in football, a rapidly declining mental state ruined his post-football career. He was declared insane in 2014 after a disturbing the peace incident, and was found dead June 7 in a river outside Fort Wayne, Indiana.

News report pertaining to Hardy's death (http://www.wpta21.com/story/35621291/coroner-identifies-man-found-in-maumee-river-as-former-nfl-player?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_ABC21_WPTA)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hardy_(American_football))

NFL stats (http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=HAR108650)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on June 08, 2017, 07:22:30 pm
Hardy arrested for attacking 3 police officers in Lost Angeles. But back on the street.

My guess is powerful, mind altering drugs. There is a reason they are called "mind altering."

They are.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on June 09, 2017, 12:30:36 am
Hardy arrested for attacking 3 police officers in Lost Angeles. But back on the street.

My guess is powerful, mind altering drugs. There is a reason they are called "mind altering."

They are.

@truth_seeker   He didn't look to be a big,muscular guy,so getting his melon thumped by linemen and defensive backs is just as likely as drugs to have created his mental state.

Or he could have just been born with a chemical inbalance.

The one thing we know for sure is he shouldn't have ended up this way.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 09, 2017, 12:35:29 am
The one thing we know for sure is he shouldn't have ended up this way.

I think we can agree on this. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Millee on June 09, 2017, 03:26:13 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4589002/Dirty-Rotten-Scoundrels-star-Glenne-Headly-dies-aged-63.html

Too young.   **nononono*
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: dfwgator on June 09, 2017, 03:33:53 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4589002/Dirty-Rotten-Scoundrels-star-Glenne-Headly-dies-aged-63.html

Too young.   **nononono*

Oh, man,  that's depressing,  she was cute in Dirty, Rotten Scoundrels.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on June 09, 2017, 05:00:43 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4589002/Dirty-Rotten-Scoundrels-star-Glenne-Headly-dies-aged-63.html

Too young.   **nononono*

I know her best from Mr Holland's Opus as Richard Dreyfus' wife.

Cause of death not known but was hospitalized for blood clots.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on June 09, 2017, 05:54:09 pm
Oh, man,  that's depressing,  she was cute in Dirty, Rotten Scoundrels.

She was. She was also great in Monk as Stottlemeyer's wife.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on June 10, 2017, 02:50:13 am
Hawaiian pizza inventor Sam Panopoulos dies aged 83

Sam Panopoulos, who has died aged 83, leaves a legacy that has delighted, confused and appalled diners worldwide. Often at the same time.

Panopoulos is the Canadian man who invented Hawaiian pizza, a dish so divisive it led to a presidential outburst this year.

He passed away in hospital suddenly on Thursday.


More: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40230407
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on June 10, 2017, 03:42:24 pm
Breaking- Adam West has died


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40235142

RIP Batman. ANd Mayor West From Family Guy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on June 10, 2017, 03:44:44 pm
Breaking story

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40235142

Mods, I also put it on the obit thread.

RIP BAtman
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on June 10, 2017, 04:23:26 pm
Breaking- Adam West has died


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40235142

RIP Batman. ANd Mayor West From Family Guy.

Awww.  I enjoyed Adam West.  Had a bit of a crush on him when I was a teenager and Batman was on TV.  Thought he was good looking.  Enjoyed his character on Family Guy too  (yes I know Christians should not watch it, but I'm an old lady and don't have too many vices left). 

Rest in peace, Mr. West.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on June 10, 2017, 04:26:32 pm
Awww.  I enjoyed Adam West.  Had a bit of a crush on him when I was a teenager and Batman was on TV.  Thought he was good looking.  Enjoyed his character on Family Guy too  (yes I know Christians should not watch it, but I'm an old lady and don't have too many vices left). 

Rest in peace, Mr. West.

To me, he will always be Batman. Not the other actors who did the role after him.

He was also Catman on Fairly Oddparents. I think he did a lot of cartoon voices in the last decade or so.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Oceander on June 10, 2017, 05:54:51 pm
RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: kevindavis007 on June 10, 2017, 07:15:39 pm
RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: 240B on June 10, 2017, 07:27:06 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLZQ3OLEJWE
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2017, 02:05:00 am
RIP, Mr. West. Thanks for the entertainment.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on June 11, 2017, 02:25:18 pm
Breaking- Adam West has died


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40235142

RIP Batman. ANd Mayor West From Family Guy.

Crap.

As a kid I remember my parents offering me a choice between a good whipping with a wooden stick or missing that night's episode of Batman as punishment. I chose the whipping.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Old Warrior in Exile on June 11, 2017, 03:34:43 pm
Breaking- Adam West has died


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40235142

RIP Batman. ANd Mayor West From Family Guy.

R.I.P.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/64/4a/ed/644aed5700ef032be0a4e20ea39f9ef9.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on June 11, 2017, 04:23:25 pm
Breaking- Adam West has died


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40235142

RIP Batman. ANd Mayor West From Family Guy.
Adam West, Straight-Faced Star of TV's 'Batman,' Dies at 88

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Adam West, the ardent actor who managed to keep his tongue in cheek while wearing the iconic cowl of the Caped Crusader on the classic 1960s series Batman, has died. He was 88.

West, who was at the pinnacle of pop culture after Batman debuted in January 1966, only to see his career fall victim to typecasting after the ABC show flamed out, died Friday night in Los Angeles after a short battle with leukemia, a family spokesperson said...

After struggling for years without a steady job, the good-natured actor reached a new level of fame when he accepted an offer to voice the mayor of Quahog — named Adam West; how’s that for a coincidence! — on Seth MacFarlane’s long-running Fox animated hit Family Guy...
More (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/adam-west-dead-batman-star-832264)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_West)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001842/)

 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on June 16, 2017, 03:35:00 pm
BBC news just reported that Helmut  Kohl died at the age of 87. Breaking
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: txradioguy on June 16, 2017, 03:52:01 pm
BBC news just reported that Helmut  Kohl died at the age of 87. Breaking

Just got notification via USA Today as well.

Ruhe in Frieden Herr Kohl

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 17, 2017, 02:25:31 am
Director John G. Avildsen dies at 81

Avildsen is best known for directing Rocky (as well as one of its sequels, Rocky V) and all three entries in The Karate Kid series. He died of pancreatic cancer June 16.

Obituary from the Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-me-john-avildsen-obituary-20170616-story.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Avildsen)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000814/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 17, 2017, 02:40:04 am
BBC news just reported that Helmut  Kohl died at the age of 87. Breaking
German chancellor Helmut Kohl dies at 87

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Helmut_Kohl_1989.jpg/220px-Helmut_Kohl_1989.jpg)

Kohl emerged as one of West Germany's most influential and longest-serving politicians, serving as chancellor of the country from 1982 to 1998. He is credited as the mastermind of the country's reunification with formerly Soviet-dominated East Germany as well as the formation of the European Union.

Kohl's political philosophy was known as "Christian democracy," which entailed a strong foreign focus with fiscal liberalism. He was a strong ally (albeit one made mostly for strategy) with the United States and remained a harsh critic of current chancellor Angela Merkel on almost all of her policies.

Obituary from the BBC (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11477991)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Kohl)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: kevindavis007 on June 17, 2017, 11:08:28 pm

Stephen Furst -- actor and filmmaker known for playing Flounder in 'Animal House' -- has died due to complications from diabetes ... TMZ has learned.
Stephen's son Nathan tells us ... his father died at his home in Ventura Country, CA early Friday morning surrounded by loving friends and family. He and his brother Griff said about their dad ... "He was a beloved husband, father and kind friend whose memory will always be a blessing."


Furst battled with diabetes for years, and later became a spokesperson for the American Diabetes Association.


Along with playing Kent 'Flounder' Dorfman in the 1978 comedy classic, he also had starring roles on "Babylon 5" and "St. Elsewhere." He directed a few episodes of 'Babylon 5' as well.


He was 63.
RIP


Source: http://www.tmz.com/2017/06/17/stephen-furst-flounder-animal-house-dead/

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: kevindavis007 on June 17, 2017, 11:13:13 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ribk3MTR3PA
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on June 18, 2017, 12:04:52 am
Ventura County, not Ventura Country

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Map_of_California_highlighting_Ventura_County.svg/419px-Map_of_California_highlighting_Ventura_County.svg.png)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on June 18, 2017, 12:14:15 am
Oh no! Loved him in that movie! I just saw him on a rerun of Scrubs the other night too.

RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 18, 2017, 12:54:51 am
Actor Stephen Furst, of Animal House fame, dies at 62

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Stephen_Furst_by_Gage_Skidmore_2.jpg/220px-Stephen_Furst_by_Gage_Skidmore_2.jpg)

Furst, who battled weight issues and hereditary type-2 diabetes throughout most of his life, was a prominent character actor and voice artist through his life. He first rose to fame as Kent "Flounder" Dorfman, one of the characters in National Lampoon's Animal House. He also had notable roles as Vir Cotto in the TV series Babylon 5 (a role that allegedly inspired North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un's haircut) and Dr. Elliot Axelrod on St. Elsewhere.

Furst later made a conscious effort to improve his health after being diagnosed with diabetes shortly after both his parents died at age 47. Although he lost his foot to the disease and eventually died from complications stemming from it, his efforts allowed him to live 15 years longer than his parents did.

Obituary from the Associated Press (https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/06/17/us/ap-us-obit-stephen-furst.html?mcubz=2&_r=1)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Furst)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0299122/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 18, 2017, 01:58:52 am
RIP Flounder . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtSPFXj_eZM
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on June 18, 2017, 10:49:07 am
RIP Flounder . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtSPFXj_eZM

Beat me to it! Flounder rip!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on June 18, 2017, 11:17:48 am
Animal House is one of my favorite movies.  I'll be watching it this afternoon in Mr. Furst's memory.   8888crybaby

Rest in peace. 

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on June 18, 2017, 02:48:10 pm
RIP Stephen Furst. Another one of the Babylon 5 guys gone by their early-60's if not before.

Richard Biggs - 44
Stephen Furst - 63
Andreas Katsulas - 60
Jerry Doyle - 60
Jeff Conaway - 61
Michael O'Hare - 60
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on June 19, 2017, 08:09:30 pm
So Carrie Fischer died of drugs it seems... they won't come out and say that but she did seem healthy other than that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on June 19, 2017, 09:07:37 pm
So Carrie Fischer died of drugs it seems... they won't come out and say that but she did seem healthy other than that.

Looks like.......
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on June 19, 2017, 09:18:48 pm
So Carrie Fischer died of drugs it seems... they won't come out and say that but she did seem healthy other than that.

Also read that Ms. Fisher also suffered from sleep apnea, which can be fatal.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 19, 2017, 10:09:41 pm
RIP Jose Jimenez . . .

Comedian Bill Dana, Who Played the Character Jose Jimenez, Dies at 92 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-dana-dead-jose-jimenez-903436)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on June 20, 2017, 12:00:55 am
Quote
UFC fighter Tim Hague dies at 33
Associated Press on MSN.com · 1 day ago

Hague, who was nicknamed 'The Thrashing Machine,' was critically injured when he was knocked out in a boxing match with Adam Braidwood on Friday.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mma/tim-hague-ufc-fighter-turned-boxer-dies-at-33/ar-BBCR2S2?li=BBnb7Kz&OCID=ansmsnnews11

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Hague

He fought Adam Braidwood in Edmonton,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Braidwood

Both appear to have been born in Canada.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 20, 2017, 12:05:34 am
RIP Jose Jimenez . . .

Comedian Bill Dana, Who Played the Character Jose Jimenez, Dies at 92 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-dana-dead-jose-jimenez-903436)

That makes me sad.  He's one I met in the 80's.  I owe a lot to Lew King.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 20, 2017, 01:35:28 am
RIP Jose Jimenez . . .

Comedian Bill Dana, Who Played the Character Jose Jimenez, Dies at 92 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-dana-dead-jose-jimenez-903436)
Wow. I remember him on radio back during the days of the Mercury program. RIP sir, and thanks for all the laughs in an era when America still had a sense of humor.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Rivergirl on June 23, 2017, 11:48:02 am
Not going to speak ill of the dead, so I have nothing to add here.

There are evil doers in this world and then there was Stewart.   May she rot in hell for eternity.  Terrorism's best friend.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on June 23, 2017, 01:18:28 pm
Not going to speak ill of the dead, so I have nothing to add here.

@Cyber Liberty

Why? If she was evil and did evil while alive,her death is a cause for celebration.

NONE of the evil she did or promoted while alive is now negated just because she is dead,and as a lawyer chances are that evil will still be active and inflicting injury on living people years or even decades from now.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on June 23, 2017, 07:34:53 pm
Televangelist Leroy Jenkins dead at 83

There was a time when everyone knew his name. The Rev. Leroy Jenkins was famous in Delaware, where he started the Healing Water Cathedral in the 1970s.

A televangelist and faith healer, Jenkins, 83, died from complications of pneumonia Wednesday morning in Florida, said his son, Danny Jenkins.

He always had a big presence, and loved being around people, Danny Jenkins said.

“He looked like Elvis, dressed like Liberace, ran for governor and said he had God-given powers,” said Lee Yoakum, spokesman for the city of Delaware, in an email. “Someone like that is going to leave a pretty colorful history — in any town — not just Delaware.”

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170622/televangelist-leroy-jenkins-dead-at-83
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on June 23, 2017, 08:39:19 pm
Televangelist Leroy Jenkins dead at 83
Never heard of him, and I thought I was familiar with most of 'em.
Quote
... Jenkins had legal troubles and he served time in prison on charges of conspiracy to commit arson and assault. He also filed for bankruptcy, was indicted for tax evasion and is accused of selling contaminated “miracle water.”  ...
Was that wrong?  :thud:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 23, 2017, 08:42:38 pm
Televangelist Leroy Jenkins dead at 83

There was a time when everyone knew his name. The Rev. Leroy Jenkins was famous in Delaware, where he started the Healing Water Cathedral in the 1970s.

A televangelist and faith healer, Jenkins, 83, died from complications of pneumonia Wednesday morning in Florida, said his son, Danny Jenkins.

He always had a big presence, and loved being around people, Danny Jenkins said.

“He looked like Elvis, dressed like Liberace, ran for governor and said he had God-given powers,” said Lee Yoakum, spokesman for the city of Delaware, in an email. “Someone like that is going to leave a pretty colorful history — in any town — not just Delaware.”

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170622/televangelist-leroy-jenkins-dead-at-83

Not to be confused with Leeroy Jenkins.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/leeroy-jenkins
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on June 23, 2017, 08:58:17 pm
Not to be confused with Leeroy Jenkins.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/leeroy-jenkins

The similarities are so close I can see how people could get them confused.

Leeroy Jenkins is the name of a World of Warcraft character that is known for screaming out his name before ignorantly charging headlong into battle, killing everyone in his party.


vs

A televangelist and faith healer, Jenkins looked like Elvis, dressed like Liberace, ran for governor and said he had God-given powers

 :whistle: :laugh:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on June 24, 2017, 12:21:34 am
Quote
Venus Ramey, war bond-selling, gun-toting Miss America of 1944, dies at 92

By Jon Herskovitz

Venus Ramey, who used her victory as Miss America in 1944 to sell war bonds and make appearances on the vaudeville stage, has died at the age of 92, a funeral home in her native Kentucky said on Sunday.

Ramey, at age 82 in 2007, thwarted an attempt to steal equipment at her Kentucky farm by balancing with a walking stick and shooting out the tires of the suspects' vehicle, local news reports at the time said.

After the incident, she appeared on national TV programs including "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno," where she quipped that she liked to start things with a bang.

Ramey left Kentucky for the U.S. capital in the 1940s to help with the war effort during World War Two and represented the District of Columbia when she was crowned Miss America. During her tenure, she worked with members of Congress to help enact women's rights legislation, the Miss America organization said.

Continued: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-ramey-idUSKBN19A05I

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/cc/8f/12/cc8f126e0441e5b95dc5b0e06e05d091.jpg)(http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/4273.jpg)

Here's a picture of her with some young girls who to me, appear to be Asian. I wonder what the story is behind this? I see, the book she has, has Chinese characters and some of the background looks Chinese. Not conclusive but probably.

 Lovely picture.
(http://asktran.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/59478ff41600002200116ce4.jpeg)
http://asktran.com/home/2017/06/19/venus-ramey-war-bond-selling-gun-toting-miss-america-of-1944-dead-at-92/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on June 24, 2017, 02:28:10 am
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/cc/8f/12/cc8f126e0441e5b95dc5b0e06e05d091.jpg)(http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/4273.jpg)

Here's a picture of her with some young girls who to me, appear to be Asian. I wonder what the story is behind this? I see, the book she has, has Chinese characters and some of the background looks Chinese. Not conclusive but probably.

 Lovely picture.
(http://asktran.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/59478ff41600002200116ce4.jpeg)
http://asktran.com/home/2017/06/19/venus-ramey-war-bond-selling-gun-toting-miss-america-of-1944-dead-at-92/

Now, that's a life thoroughly lived!  What a lady.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on June 27, 2017, 11:16:05 pm
RIP Anthony Young . . .

Anthony Young dies at 51; lost record 27 straight games (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19752843/anthony-young-holds-mlb-record-skid-dies-51)

Quote
Former pitcher Anthony Young, who still holds the major league record with 27 consecutive losses, died in Houston on Tuesday, the New York Mets announced.

He was 51 years old. His death comes on the anniversary of his 24th consecutive loss, which broke the record, on June 27, 1993 against the St. Louis Cardinals.

Former Mets pitcher Turk Wendell said in a statement that Young said earlier this year at the Mets' fantasy camp that he had been diagnosed with a brain tumor.

"Anthony was a true gentleman," Wendell said. "At this year's fantasy camp, he told us he had a brain tumor. That was Anthony. He never ran away from anything."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on June 28, 2017, 01:39:55 pm
Swedish actor Michael Nyqvist, of Dragon Tattoo and John Wick, dies at 56
The actor, who appeared as Mikael Blomkvist in the Swedish adaptations of the Stieg Larsson novels, has died of lung cancer
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jun/27/swedish-actor-michael-nyqvist-dies-56
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/721b785a9ff8031692d447ffb9efe666c17eec60/0_241_3502_2101/master/3502.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=3e88877ae2558bad08972bf37e733324)

Swedish actor Michael Nyqvist has died at the age of 56. He had been battling lung cancer.

The Stockholm-born actor was best known for his role as Mikael Blomkvist in the original Swedish Dragon Tattoo trilogy, which included The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Girl Who Played with Fire, and The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet’s Nest.

He later appeared in Hollywood action thrillers such as John Wick and Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol.

...

Excerpt.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on June 28, 2017, 01:49:43 pm
Paddington Bear author Michael Bond dies aged 91
Creator of marmalade-loving bear from Peru, whose last story was published in April, has died after a short illness
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jun/28/paddington-bear-author-michael-bond-dies-aged-91

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/1af3548e57bbce4dce4dd0a335bfad62e592b34e/0_1012_3727_2235/master/3727.jpg?w=1920&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=d4b0db5d6c6bdea35912cc4d7dd50da8)

Michael Bond, the creator of the beloved children’s character Paddington Bear, has died aged 91.

Bond, who published his first book, A Bear Called Paddington, about the marmalade-loving bear from deepest, darkest Peru, in 1958, died at home after a short illness.

The author, born in Newbury, Berkshire, in 1926, kept writing until his death. His most recent Paddington story, Paddington’s Finest Hour, was published in April.

...

Excerpt.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on June 28, 2017, 01:51:13 pm
@Suppressed , we posted at the same time.

RIP Paddington..

I'm going to miss you. Even though I was never blessed to have a Paddington Bear

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/28/europe/michael-bond-paddington-bear/index.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on June 28, 2017, 02:16:34 pm
Swedish actor Michael Nyqvist, of Dragon Tattoo and John Wick, dies at 56
The actor, who appeared as Mikael Blomkvist in the Swedish adaptations of the Stieg Larsson novels, has died of lung cancer
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jun/27/swedish-actor-michael-nyqvist-dies-56
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/721b785a9ff8031692d447ffb9efe666c17eec60/0_241_3502_2101/master/3502.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=3e88877ae2558bad08972bf37e733324)

Swedish actor Michael Nyqvist has died at the age of 56. He had been battling lung cancer.

The Stockholm-born actor was best known for his role as Mikael Blomkvist in the original Swedish Dragon Tattoo trilogy, which included The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Girl Who Played with Fire, and The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet’s Nest.

He later appeared in Hollywood action thrillers such as John Wick and Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol.

...

Excerpt.

No more Russian bad guys for Keanu to double tap...

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on July 03, 2017, 01:31:25 am
Smith Hart passes away

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Smith Hart, the oldest of the Hart brothers, and the self-described "black sheep" of the family has died after a lengthy battle with cancer. He was 68 years old...

[T]he wrestling world knows the stories of the Hart Family and Stampede Wrestling. From their sprawling mansion in Calgary, Stu promoted wrestling across the Canadian west and south into Montana and Idaho, while Helen managed the promotion. As the children aged, they got involved too, from selling programs to entertaining the revolving door of wrestlers at the home, to eventually refereeing and, in some cases, wrestling.

Smith Hart started as a referee and debuted as a wrestler. In comparison to the fame achieved by his younger brothers Bret and Owen, and to a lesser extent Bruce, Smith's wrestling career doesn't shine the same way -- but it did last, roughly 18 years off and on...
Full article (http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Wrestling/2017/06/02/22728339.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Hart)

Facebook obit (https://www.facebook.com/smith.hart.5/posts/1385411228208747)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on July 03, 2017, 02:48:48 pm
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Little Loca actress Stevie Ryan dies aged 33 in suspected suicide just hours after tweeting about grief at grandfather's death

By Ciara Farmer For Mailonline

Published: 07:00 EDT, 3 July 2017 | Updated: 09:31 EDT, 3 July 2017

American actress Stevie Ryan has died aged 33 following a suspected suicide.

A post shared on the LA coroner's office website confirmed that the Victorville-born star, who was famed for her viral videos, died on Saturday.

Shortly before her death, she posted a note on Twitter about the death of her grandfather as she penned: 'The man of my dreams will now only be in my dreams.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/03/12/41FD69A600000578-4661098-image-m-254_1499079753157.jpg)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4661098/Stevie-Ryan-dies-aged-33-suspected-suicide.html#ixzz4lmQmIUbg
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I'm not too aware of her but the story is stunning. Rest In Peace.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on July 03, 2017, 07:50:53 pm
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the Victorville-born star, who was famed for her viral videos
I'm not sure what makes one famed or a star, nor do I don't know what makes a video viral. I wasn't familiar with her, but am sorry she felt compelled to kill herself.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on July 03, 2017, 09:22:08 pm
I'm not sure what makes one famed or a star, nor do I don't know what makes a video viral. I wasn't familiar with her, but am sorry she felt compelled to kill herself.

I think everyone and most definitely myself felt a huge amount of grief at the loss of our grandparents.  OTOH, I think there are / were some other underlying psychological issues for her to do this.  Just my opinion.  Maybe a triggering event.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on July 03, 2017, 11:25:25 pm
Losing someone you are particularly close to can have a severe impact on one'side life.  I don't know if this lady received any grief counseling.  It would be a shame if she didn't.

I was very close to my father, and his death put me on a downward spiral.  At the time of his passing,  I had people telling me I had to be strong for my mother.  I took that to mean I couldn't grieve.  It wasn't till I went through counseling and really properly grieved for Dad that I was able to recover and move on. 

Don't know the lady, but I pray she has finally found peace.




Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on July 04, 2017, 12:40:43 am
I'm not sure what makes one famed or a star, nor do I don't know what makes a video viral. I wasn't familiar with her, but am sorry she felt compelled to kill herself.

That's what I was wondering. The pic of her grandfather - and I'm assuming that is was recent - he looked to be in his early 80's. Any day after 80 is a gift with loved ones, most people start to naturally prepare at that point, especially grandparents.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on July 06, 2017, 02:47:32 am
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MMA fighter Aaron Rajman killed by Florida home intruders
    9 hours ago
    From the section US & Canada

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Aaron Rajman made his professional MMA debut in 2014 and and had a 2-2 record
A mixed martial arts fighter has been killed by intruders in the US state of Florida, police say.

Aaron Rajman was fatally shot during Monday night's apparent home invasion in the coastal city of Boca Raton.

Palm Beach County sheriff's office says a fight broke out after a group of suspects entered the 25-year-old featherweight's home.

Mr Rajman died from gunshot wounds. The assailants, whose motive is currently unknown, fled in a vehicle.

Continued: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40511746

It doesn't sound like he fought much per his MMA career but a tragedy nonetheless. Sounds like there is more to this story.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on July 06, 2017, 10:48:59 am
Something drug-related, perhaps.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 06, 2017, 02:00:07 pm
Something drug-related, perhaps.  :shrug:

@mountaineer

He was a Orthodox Jew,so that seems unlikely.

My best GUESS is he invited some people he didn't know very well to his house,and one or more of them decided they wanted to prove how tough they were by beating a MMA fighter,and when things didn't go their way,one of them pulled out a gun.

Lots of young men are insecure,and I can't count the number of times I have seen that "You don't look so tough!" challenge backfire on people who thought they could get away with it because they had a couple of friends with them. I have actually hear morons screaming "Go ahead,shoot me! You don't have the balls,do you?" in bar parking lots.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on July 06, 2017, 04:01:46 pm
Oh, I wasn't aware of his being Orthodox, @sneakypete
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Orthodox MMA fighter shot dead in his Florida home
Jewish Week (http://jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/first-read-for-july-5/)


An Orthodox Jewish professional mixed martial arts fighter was shot and killed in his Florida home.

Aaron Rajman, 25, was killed Monday evening when several men entered his home in West Boca Raton, Florida. They reportedly argued with Rajman, shot him and then left, the Sun-Sentinel newspaper reported, citing the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office.

It is not known what they argued about.

Rajman won several MMA titles as an amateur; he turned professional in 2014 and held a 2-2 record at the time of his death. He is believed to be the only Orthodox Jewish MMA fighter, according to reports.

Rabbi Zalman Bukiet, director of the Chabad of West Boca Raton, told local television news station WPTV-Ch. 5: “This was a special young man who had a heart of gold. It’s a tragedy.”

Rajman reportedly studied Torah at the Chabad, and taught children at a local Jewish school, as well as self defense classes for children and Krav Maga techniques to local police.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on July 06, 2017, 05:57:19 pm
@sneakypete
@mountaineer

Jack Lambert, the great Steelers linebacker,  had a well deserved reputation for toughness.  But there was a downside to being a tough guy.  Lambert once complained that he couldn't stop in a bar without some drunken idiot trying to pick a fight with him.  All poor Jack wanted to do was have a beer.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 06, 2017, 06:03:48 pm
@sneakypete
@mountaineer

@Applewood

Jack Lambert, the great Steelers linebacker,  had a well deserved reputation for toughness.  But there was a downside to being a tough guy.  Lambert once complained that he couldn't stop in a bar without some drunken idiot trying to pick a fight with him.  All poor Jack wanted to do was have a beer.

Yup,I doubt there is a former bar hound alive who hasn't seen similar things. Some yahoo  will get drunk and want to try to prove what a tough man he is by beating on someone.  Usually someone smaller or who seems to be passive,but sometimes you see a fool shoot for the stars.

These are almost all people who haven't been in a fight since grade school,and it almost never ends well for them.

People who have been in a few dust-ups as adults generally don't get into fights they can avoid because they  have learned you can never tell how tough the other guy is until you give him your best shot,and see what happens. If you spin him around and he is smiling and laughing while thanking you and congratulating you for the good punch once he is facing you again,RUN!

And you really and truly can't pick these people out by looking at them.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 06, 2017, 06:20:59 pm
Yup,I doubt there is a former bar hound alive who hasn't seen similar things. Some yahoo  will get drunk and want to try to prove what a tough man he is by beating on someone.  Usually someone smaller or who seems to be passive,but sometimes you see a fool shoot for the stars.

These are almost all people who haven't been in a fight since grade school,and it almost never ends well for them.

People who have been in a few dust-ups as adults generally don't get into fights they can avoid because they  have learned you can never tell how tough the other guy is until you give him your best shot,and see what happens. If you spin him around and he is smiling and laughing while thanking you and congratulating you for the good punch once he is facing you again,RUN!

And you really and truly can't pick these people out by looking at them.
Truth. I watched a little guy (former SAS) take down two brothers damnear twice his size in a bar one night. Took all of a couple seconds, maybe (longer for them to actually hit the floor than for him to send them on the way).

Another little ol' fellow who had been wounded seven times in Italy in WWII took down a tough guy who was an easy 6'2 and 240 lbs, and it took him less time for him to put him out on the floor than it did to type this. The end joint of his middle finger had been shot off in the war, and he just laughed and gave him the 'stubby' and went back to his beer.
 
Mama said, "Never judge a book by its cover." Dad said, "Don't go looking for trouble." They were both right.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on July 06, 2017, 07:47:15 pm
Gene Conley, Dual-Sport Threat With World Series and N.B.A. Titles, Dies at 86

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All professional athletes dream of winning a championship. But only two have won championships in two major American professional sports. Gene Conley was one of them.

Conley, who died at 86 on Tuesday at his home in Foxborough, Mass., pitched for the World Series champion Milwaukee Braves in 1957. At 6 feet 8 inches — he was the tallest pitcher in the major leagues at the time — he also carved out a parallel career in professional basketball, playing during baseball’s off-season and winning three N.B.A. titles with the Boston Celtics, from 1958 to 1961.
More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/sports/baseball/gene-conley-dead-won-titles-in-baseball-and-basketball.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Conley)

MLB Stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/conlege01.shtml)

NBA Stats (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/conlege01.html)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on July 06, 2017, 08:00:43 pm
Gene Conley, Dual-Sport Threat With World Series and N.B.A. Titles, Dies at 86
More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/sports/baseball/gene-conley-dead-won-titles-in-baseball-and-basketball.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Conley)

MLB Stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/conlege01.shtml)

NBA Stats (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/conlege01.html)

Very successful 2 professional sports figures are rare..  In my generation, only Deion Sanders, and Bo Jackson come to mind.

Sanders was an excellent NFL, but was so-so in MLB.  Bo Jackson OTOH had 4 -20 hr years, and had one year he had 105 rbi's.  Too bad his hip shortened both careers.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on July 06, 2017, 08:01:42 pm
Gene Conley, Dual-Sport Threat With World Series and N.B.A. Titles, Dies at 86
More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/sports/baseball/gene-conley-dead-won-titles-in-baseball-and-basketball.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Conley)

MLB Stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/conlege01.shtml)

NBA Stats (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/conlege01.html)
@Machiavelli
He was also baseball's would-be pilgrim to Israel---during 1962, suffering a spell of depression, Conley and teammate Pumpsie Green
(the first black player on the Red Sox) wandered off the team bus and hit a couple of bars before realising the bus took off without
them. (They'd been stuck in a traffic jam.) Green managed to make his way to the airport to meet the team, but Conley decided to
take a trip to Israel, buying tickets and making it to the airport only to discover he'd forgotten his passport. It was headlines
and a hefty fine for Conley by Red Sox owner Tom Yawkey---who refunded the fine as promised when Conley returned to the team
and kept his nose clean the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on July 06, 2017, 08:40:09 pm
Yup,I doubt there is a former bar hound alive who hasn't seen similar things. Some yahoo  will get drunk and want to try to prove what a tough man he is by beating on someone.  Usually someone smaller or who seems to be passive,but sometimes you see a fool shoot for the stars.

These are almost all people who haven't been in a fight since grade school,and it almost never ends well for them.

People who have been in a few dust-ups as adults generally don't get into fights they can avoid because they  have learned you can never tell how tough the other guy is until you give him your best shot,and see what happens. If you spin him around and he is smiling and laughing while thanking you and congratulating you for the good punch once he is facing you again,RUN!

And you really and truly can't pick these people out by looking at them.

What I have repeatedly observed is that the guys who insist on telling you how bad assed they are aren't! And I have seen it proven enough times to convince me that it's true.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 06, 2017, 08:52:08 pm
What I have repeatedly observed is that the guys who insist on telling you how bad assed they are aren't! And I have seen it proven enough times to convince me that it's true.
I remain unimpressed by such territorial displays and posturing. It tends to be the calm and quiet ones who are dangerous.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on July 06, 2017, 09:06:33 pm
I remain unimpressed by such territorial displays and posturing. It tends to be the calm and quiet ones who are dangerous.  :laugh:

Let's just put it this way;  The real bad asses don't have to prove anything to anyone but they will if you force them to.

 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on July 06, 2017, 10:17:07 pm
It is true the biggest trash talkers are the last to fight. Fortunately I'm getting past that age, but I've always have had the attitude that if you insist on fighting you better know your stuff, because even if you can ultimately beat me, I'm going to do hurt you as bad and quick as possible whatever way I can to incapacitate you. Fighting to me is like guns, don't start it up if you aren't ready to use stopping force.

On that note, about 10 years ago I was part of a discussion with some younger guys who said they like to fight and all that. I told them point blank that me and most older guys would just as soon kill them than fight them. Very stunned looks on their faces, guess it just got real for them. But it's true, I have zero time for that crap and even less patience.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 06, 2017, 10:43:33 pm
It is true the biggest trash talkers are the last to fight. Fortunately I'm getting past that age, but I've always have had the attitude that if you insist on fighting you better know your stuff, because even if you can ultimately beat me, I'm going to do hurt you as bad and quick as possible whatever way I can to incapacitate you. Fighting to me is like guns, don't start it up if you aren't ready to use stopping force.

On that note, about 10 years ago I was part of a discussion with some younger guys who said they like to fight and all that. I told them point blank that me and most older guys would just as soon kill them than fight them. Very stunned looks on their faces, guess it just got real for them. But it's true, I have zero time for that crap and even less patience.

When you get to a certain age. a punch in the face can be deadly.  Considering that, it's wise to think of it as an assault with a deadly weapon, and react accordingly.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on July 06, 2017, 10:50:01 pm
When you get to a certain age. a punch in the face can be deadly.  Considering that, it's wise to think of it as an assault with a deadly weapon, and react accordingly.

1970, (EM) enlisted mens' club, Heilbronn Germany, Wharton Barracks. Drunk white cook arrives back from downtown, and mouths off to a small black soldier in the same battalion.

Next thing, the medics are on the way. Turned out the smaller guy, was Golden Gloves boxer, and punched him in his nose, and killed him with one blow.



Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on July 07, 2017, 12:35:24 am
The AB tied to get me to join their club one time. They are a fun bunch of guys but I declined. They insisted. I refused. After that they left me alone. I'm not a badass. Don't pretend to be. It is kinda funny how the world is small sometimes. A friend of a friend of my wife ran into her in the store the other day. He asked what my wife's last name was. Said that seemed familiar, that he knew a bigheadfred once. You know my husband. No, I lived in the same neighborhood. Never did talk to him. Everyone was kinda scared of him. My wife acts like she is proud of that. They are funny creatures.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 07, 2017, 01:11:45 am
The AB tied to get me to join their club one time. They are a fun bunch of guys but I declined. They insisted. I refused. After that they left me alone. I'm not a badass. Don't pretend to be. It is kinda funny how the world is small sometimes. A friend of a friend of my wife ran into her in the store the other day. He asked what my wife's last name was. Said that seemed familiar, that he knew a bigheadfred once. You know my husband. No, I lived in the same neighborhood. Never did talk to him. Everyone was kinda scared of him. My wife acts like she is proud of that. They are funny creatures.

I solved that by moving the crap outta my town.  Way outta.  I'm from the Midwest, I live in Phoenix.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on July 07, 2017, 01:13:37 am
I solved that by moving the crap outta my town.  Way outta.  I'm from the Midwest, I live in Phoenix.

I found that just hiding out in the house helps out a lot.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 07, 2017, 01:19:47 am
I found that just hiding out in the house helps out a lot.

It was cheaper to move....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on July 07, 2017, 01:29:54 am
It was cheaper to move....

Some things follow you around. This is merely a degree of separation thing. I like SE Idaho. If I had the money I would snowbird down to you. Doesn't look like that will ever happen. I'm going to have to work until I die now. Probably after that too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on July 07, 2017, 01:19:07 pm
'Grandaddy of techno' Pierre Henry dies at 89
1:53am Jul 7, 2017

http://www.9news.com.au/entertainment/2017/07/07/01/37/grandaddy-of-techno-pierre-henry-dies-at-89

French electronic composer Pierre Henry -- whose music inspired the theme tune of the American animated television series "Futurama" -- has died at the age of 89, his assistant said Thursday.

Known as the "grandfather of techno", Henry's "Psyche Rock" riff was used in the Oscar-winning Costa-Gavras film "Z" (1969) and later remixed by British DJ Fatboy Slim for the 2004 Lindsay Lohan film "Mean Girls".

[Excerpt.]


He also evidently composed the Futurama theme song.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on July 07, 2017, 01:38:08 pm
'Grandaddy of techno'

Geez that's awful.  IF that was my claim to fame, I'd hope people would just remember me as Pierre.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on July 07, 2017, 01:39:54 pm
@Suppressed

Christopher Tyng composed the theme song from "Futurama"

This man inspired him.  It's a neat little song.

https://youtu.be/pkO1u2hrwxA
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on July 07, 2017, 01:43:26 pm
@Suppressed

Christopher Tyng composed the theme song from "Futurama"

This man inspired him.  It's a neat little song.

https://youtu.be/pkO1u2hrwxA

Thanks for the correction, @Freya!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on July 07, 2017, 02:05:30 pm
Thanks for the correction, @Freya!

No worries. It's one of my all time favorite shows. That was an interesting obit.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on July 07, 2017, 10:23:16 pm
'Grandaddy of techno'

Geez that's awful.  IF that was my claim to fame, I'd hope people would just remember me as Pierre.

I'll wish him an RIP but remind one and all there are special places in hell for people who create things like . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpQ4I5DE0OI

Whomever in Spooky Tooth thought that would be a great idea should be sentenced to nothing but food,
water, and reruns of The Brady Bunch to watch!

(Yes, Spooky Tooth was a great band . . . once . . . )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHS4EJi7DUs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doCLmkmXsT0
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 07, 2017, 10:35:15 pm
'Grandaddy of techno'

Geez that's awful.  IF that was my claim to fame, I'd hope people would just remember me as Pierre.

@catfish1957

No kidding.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 07, 2017, 10:42:20 pm
I'll wish him an RIP but remind one and all there are special places in hell for people who create things like . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpQ4I5DE0OI

Whomever in Spooky Tooth thought that would be a great idea should be sentenced to nothing but food,
water, and reruns of The Brady Bunch to watch!

(Yes, Spooky Tooth was a great band . . . once . . . )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHS4EJi7DUs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doCLmkmXsT0

I loved Spooky Tooth (and Gary Wright), but who came up with the idea of doing the Lord's Prayer?  I did like I Am the Walrus.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on July 07, 2017, 11:05:02 pm
I loved Spooky Tooth (and Gary Wright), but who came up with the idea of doing the Lord's Prayer?

A little research just told me the Ceremony project was Gary Wright's brilliant idea. It was so brilliant
that Wright ended up leaving the group not long after the album was released and the laughter began.
Something similar happened to Jon Lord in Deep Purple: he pushed the band to deliver its Concerto for
Group and Orchestra
and the result was that, while he didn't quit Deep Purple over it, his influence
on the group's musical direction became slim and none from there.

I did like I Am the Walrus.

That was from The Last Puff. To this day nobody knows whether it was supposed to be the first solo
album for Spooky lead singer Mike Harrison, or whether the new lineup (Harrison, guitarist Luther Grosvenor,
drummer Mike Kellie, and three former members of the Grease Band: guitarist Henry McCulloch, bassist
Alan Spenner, and keyboardsman Chris Stainton) was actually supposed to be Spooky Tooth Mk II. The
album was billed "Spooky Tooth featuring Mike Harrison," and the lineup broke up not long after the
album was released.

The Spookies reunited in 1972 with Harrison, Wright, future Foreigner guitarist/mastermind Mick Jones,
bassist Chris Stewart, drummer Bryson Graham. They made one decent album (even if its title was still
better than half the music: You Broke My Heart, So I Busted Your Jaw), one horrible album
(Witness, which drove Mike Harrison out of the group again), and one waste of vinyl (The Mirror)
before finally calling it a career. The original lineup minus Gary Wright---Harrison, Grosvenor, bassist
Greg Ridley, and Kellie---tried one more time with 1999's Cross Purpose. They should have let
it be.

Mike Harrison does have one crown moment as a solo artist: he hooked up with the legendary Muscle
Shoals Rhythm Section for his second solo album, Smokestack Lightning. It's hard to listen
to it even now without wondering whether this was the direction in which Spooky Tooth should have
gone; it might have ensured their survival as a band.
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Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: rodamala on July 08, 2017, 04:22:53 am
A little research just told me the Ceremony project was Gary Wright's brilliant idea. It was so brilliant
that Wright ended up leaving the group not long after the album was released and the laughter began.
Something similar happened to Jon Lord in Deep Purple: he pushed the band to deliver its Concerto for
Group and Orchestra
and the result was that, while he didn't quit Deep Purple over it, his influence
on the group's musical direction became slim and none from there.

That was from The Last Puff. To this day nobody knows whether it was supposed to be the first solo
album for Spooky lead singer Mike Harrison, or whether the new lineup (Harrison, guitarist Luther Grosvenor,
drummer Mike Kellie, and three former members of the Grease Band: guitarist Henry McCulloch, bassist
Alan Spenner, and keyboardsman Chris Stainton) was actually supposed to be Spooky Tooth Mk II. The
album was billed "Spooky Tooth featuring Mike Harrison," and the lineup broke up not long after the
album was released.

The Spookies reunited in 1972 with Harrison, Wright, future Foreigner guitarist/mastermind Mick Jones,
bassist Chris Stewart, drummer Bryson Graham. They made one decent album (even if its title was still
better than half the music: You Broke My Heart, So I Busted Your Jaw), one horrible album
(Witness, which drove Mike Harrison out of the group again), and one waste of vinyl (The Mirror)
before finally calling it a career. The original lineup minus Gary Wright---Harrison, Grosvenor, bassist
Greg Ridley, and Kellie---tried one more time with 1999's Cross Purpose. They should have let
it be.

Mike Harrison does have one crown moment as a solo artist: he hooked up with the legendary Muscle
Shoals Rhythm Section for his second solo album, Smokestack Lightning. It's hard to listen
to it even now without wondering whether this was the direction in which Spooky Tooth should have
gone; it might have ensured their survival as a band.

@EasyAce

It's a few months ago at this point, but it musta been you that posted something somewhere about Spooky Tooth.  I had never listened to Spooky Tooth before, so that night I recall listening to some pretty good stuff...

This was my favorite video from what I saw that night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6KAYUXkXP4



Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: rodamala on July 08, 2017, 04:36:08 am
@EasyAce

Actually... I just remembered how it happened that I came across Spooky Tooth.  I was on a long cross country drive and heard the Spooky Tooth version of I am the Walrus and I was like "WHAT IS THIS???".

I then started looking for who all covered the song... and eventually got my answer.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 08, 2017, 03:02:38 pm
@EasyAce

Actually... I just remembered how it happened that I came across Spooky Tooth.  I was on a long cross country drive and heard the Spooky Tooth version of I am the Walrus and I was like "WHAT IS THIS???".

I then started looking for who all covered the song... and eventually got my answer.

I loved Spooky Tooth's version of Walrus.  A lot of soul in that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on July 08, 2017, 06:27:31 pm
I loved Spooky Tooth's version of Walrus.  A lot of soul in that.
Mike Harrison was a very underrated singer. There should have been more to his career . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GItlV8gZf2Y
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on July 09, 2017, 04:24:20 pm
Italian actress Elsa Martinelli dead aged 82

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Italian film star Elsa Martinelli has died today at the age of 82.

She passed away in Rome after a long and glamorous career as a star of the silver screen.

Elsa was best known for her roles in Le Rouge Et Le Noir in 1954 and for The Indian Fighter the following year, in which she starred opposite Kirk Douglas.
More (http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/italian-actress-elsa-martinelli-dead-10760645)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsa_Martinelli)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0553349/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on July 09, 2017, 05:28:09 pm
Italian actress Elsa Martinelli dead aged 82
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Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsa_Martinelli)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0553349/)
A local station broadcasts Hatari it seems once a week at least, can't say as I recall her from anything else. RIP :0006:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Just_Victor on July 10, 2017, 01:24:03 pm
Houston radio host Matt Patrick dies after battle with cancer

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http://www.khou.com/news/local/houston-radio-host-matt-patrick-dies-after-battle-with-stage-4-cancer/455388631
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on July 10, 2017, 02:16:42 pm
A local station broadcasts Hatari it seems once a week at least, can't say as I recall her from anything else. RIP :0006:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yl0cjXDNO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yl0cjXDNO0
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on July 10, 2017, 11:05:22 pm
‘The Walking Dead’ voice actor dies in skydiving accident

Voice actor Randy Schell, the man behind promos for AMC's hit series "The Walking Dead," was killed Saturday in a skydiving accident in Houston.

Schell, a licensed and experienced skydiver, collided with a second jumper in mid-air after both deployed their parachutes at Skydive Spaceland Houston, KHOU reported, leaving Schell's parachute collapsed. The second jumper was treated for a leg injury.

Both jumpers had reportedly completed a successful dive earlier in the day.

Though his face might not be instantly recognizable, Schell's distinct voice sure is, as he leaves behind a lengthy resume that includes voice work for hundreds of commercials.

Read more at: http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/%E2%80%98the-walking-dead%E2%80%99-voice-actor-dies-in-skydiving-accident/ar-BBE8zYk?OCID=ansmsnnews11
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on July 11, 2017, 12:08:02 am
I am not one for risky hobbies, but I'd venture he died what he loved doing.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on July 12, 2017, 06:55:48 am
I don't know much about this man but the write-up is fascinating:
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A reel pioneer: Remembering Jack Shaheen
Jack Shaheen exposed Hollywood's primitive Orientalism and inspired a whole generation of scholars to challenge it.

By
Khaled A Beydoun   @KhaledBeydoun

Khaled A Beydoun is an Associate Professor of Law at the University of Detroit Mercy.

It was June 2000 in Washington, DC - roughly one year before the 9/11 attacks, and the beginning of a decade of Arabs and Muslims being public enemy number one. Jack Shaheen was front and centre, analysing a montage of vile Hollywood depictions of Arabs and Muslims in front of an audience of hundreds at the annual American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee conference.

Beginning with films showcasing old caricatures of lecherous sheikhs and exoticised women in hijabs, and moving on to more recent cinematic representations of the aircraft hijacker and Muslim terrorist, Shaheen carefully dismantled every damaging trope, old and new, for a crowd on the cusp of facing an unprecedented onslaught of structural and societal Islamophobia.

I sat in the crowd, hanging on to Shaheen's every word, not yet knowing how immensely important this man's work would be in the days and years to come. He, the son of Lebanese immigrants, would go on to pioneer an entire field of study, and blaze a path for scores of scholars and activists to follow during the 9/11 decade and beyond.

When Jack Shaheen died on July 10, the news sent immediate shockwaves through the Arab and Muslim American communities. Well before 9/11, when the study of Arabs and Muslims in the media was yet to emerge as an important subject of study, Shaheen made it his life's work. He ultimately became a pioneering figure whose name today is synonymous with the intellectual protest against the long-standing character assassination of Arabs and Muslims by Hollywood and US television networks.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/07/reel-pioneer-remembering-jack-shaheen-170711082039573.html

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 12, 2017, 01:14:26 pm
I don't know much about this man but the write-up is fascinating:

Sorry, but I'm chuckling at your Avatar.  Road Runner?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 13, 2017, 04:46:59 pm
Chinese political prisoner Liu Xiaobo dies at 61

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Liu emerged in the 1980s as a prominent critic of the Chinese Communist Party. He spoke openly of his admiration of Western society and at one point mused it would take centuries of colonialism to transform Red China into a country that reached its full potential. He was sentenced to three years hard labor in the 1990s, and was arrested in 2008 when the Red Chinese authorities labeled him as a subversive. He was imprisoned in 2010 and spent the rest of his life in state custody.

Liu was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2010 for his efforts.

Obituary from the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/13/world/asia/liu-xiaobo-dead.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liu_Xiaobo)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on July 14, 2017, 12:08:10 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAYrh-x7UKo

Watch the stunning audition of the 'America's Got Talent' contestant who died in crash

Brooke Metz , USA TODAY Published 6:40 a.m. ET July 12, 2017 | Updated 4:45 p.m. ET July 12, 

Audition aired of 'America's Got Talent' contestant who died

On Tuesday night , "America's Got Talent" aired the audition of a contestant who died in a car accident in June. USA TODAY

America got the chance to hear 'America's Got Talent' contestant Brandon Rogers sing one last time Tuesday night.

Rogers, a 29-year-old family medicine doctor, died in a car accident last month.

"On June 11 one of our contestants, Brandon Rogers, tragically passed away in a car accident," an onscreen message read. "At the request of his family we would like to honor his memory by sharing his audition with you."

Read more at: https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2017/07/12/americas-got-talent-honors-contestant-who-died-car-crash/470819001/

And a Doctor to boot: https://www.instagram.com/p/BSRi7yQBLFw/

The Joe Pags show was saying the driver fell asleep at the wheel of the car and crashed into a tree, Brandon was a passenger. The other two in the car survived. Perhaps the driver was not even seriously injured.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 14, 2017, 05:33:17 pm
Chinese political prisoner Liu Xiaobo dies at 61

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Liu emerged in the 1980s as a prominent critic of the Chinese Communist Party. He spoke openly of his admiration of Western society and at one point mused it would take centuries of colonialism to transform Red China into a country that reached its full potential. He was sentenced to three years hard labor in the 1990s, and was arrested in 2008 when the Red Chinese authorities labeled him as a subversive. He was imprisoned in 2010 and spent the rest of his life in state custody.

Liu was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2010 for his efforts.

Obituary from the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/13/world/asia/liu-xiaobo-dead.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liu_Xiaobo)

@jmyrlefuller

No matter what anyone else says about him,no one can doubt his courage or dedication to his convictions.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 14, 2017, 09:25:25 pm
@jmyrlefuller

No matter what anyone else says about him,no one can doubt his courage or dedication to his convictions.
I agree. Considering the Nobel comes with a check, he likely never got the benefit of that, either. A man like this gets the award, he likely earned it in spades. That B.O. got it is a stain on the committee that won't go away in the next century.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 15, 2017, 03:07:41 pm
Mathematician Maryam Mirzakhani dies at 40

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Born and initially educated in Iran, Mirzakhani emigrated to the United States to study math at Harvard University in 1999. From the time of her graduation from Harvard in 2004, Mirzakhani emerged as one of the world's foremost mathematicians, focusing largely on geometry and related fields as a professor at Stanford University. Her work was awarded the Fields Medal, the most prestigious mathematical prize in the world, in 2014; she was the first woman to receive the award.

Mirzakhani was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2013 and died from complications of the disease.

Obituary from the BBC (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40617094)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryam_Mirzakhani)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 15, 2017, 04:39:26 pm
Mathematician Maryam Mirzakhani dies at 40

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Born and initially educated in Iran, Mirzakhani emigrated to the United States to study math at Harvard University in 1999. From the time of her graduation from Harvard in 2004, Mirzakhani emerged as one of the world's foremost mathematicians, focusing largely on geometry and related fields as a professor at Stanford University. Her work was awarded the Fields Medal, the most prestigious mathematical prize in the world, in 2014; she was the first woman to receive the award.

Mirzakhani was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2013 and died from complications of the disease.

Obituary from the BBC (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40617094)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryam_Mirzakhani)

@jmyrlefuller

That death is a loss to all of humanity.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on July 16, 2017, 09:57:20 pm
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George A. Romero, Father of the Zombie Film, Dies at 77

His low-budget body of work, which included 'Night of the Living Dead' and 'Dawn of the Dead,' creeped out audiences for decades. George A. Romero, the legendary writer-director from Pittsburgh who made the 1968 cult classic Night of the Living Dead for $114,000, thus spawning an unrelenting parade of zombie movies and TV shows, has died. He was 77.

Romero, who put out five other zombie movies after a copyright blunder cost him millions of dollars in profits on his wildly popular first one, died Sunday in his sleep after a battle with lung cancer according to a statement from Romero's producing partner Peter Grunwald to the L.A. Times. Romero's family confirmed his death to the Times as well.

Continued: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-a-romero-dead-night-living-dead-director-was-77-945346

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_A._Romero

Cast of "Night of the Living Dead", some movie, I can remember first seeing it.

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The cast, I can only place about 4 of these people.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 16, 2017, 10:20:29 pm
Romero dead?


Are you sure? (http://et-38d7.kxcdn.com/twitter-svg/1f9df.svg)

Seriously, thanks for the fun, and Rest in Peace.
Really.
Stay where they put you.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: montanajoe on July 17, 2017, 12:55:49 am
Romero dead?


Are you sure? (http://et-38d7.kxcdn.com/twitter-svg/1f9df.svg)

Seriously, thanks for the fun, and Rest in Peace.
Really.
Stay where they put you.
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Thats what is up on my century link..
 Geez that was such a movie memory for me think I saw it at Ft Ord
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on July 17, 2017, 02:15:27 am
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Martin Landau, film and TV icon, dead at 89
Published July 16, 2017
Fox News

Martin Landau, a celebrated actor with dozens of movie and TV credits to his name, including the “Mission: Impossible” television series, has died at age 89, Fox News has confirmed.

Landau died around 1:30 PT on Saturday following “unexpected complications” while he was hospitalized at UCLA Medical Center.



The prolific actor’s most notable credits included the “Mission: Impossible” television series, Alfred Hitchcock’s classic film “North by Northwest,” and his role in “Ed Wood,” for which he won an Oscar.

Landau got his start as a newspaper cartoonist at the New York Daily News, according to The Hollywood Reporter. He was 17 when he began at the news...

Continued: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/07/16/martin-landau-film-and-tv-icon-dead-at-89.html

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vvf0a-pCDM

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: montanajoe on July 17, 2017, 02:26:32 am
Was just going to post this. Never missed Mission Impossible on Sunday nights in the 60's he was my favorite character RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: berdie on July 17, 2017, 02:30:41 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_A._Romero

Cast of "Night of the Living Dead", some movie, I can remember first seeing it.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/14/02/fc/1402fcaf40f8a3d953a2fcbe5f83d0ed.jpg)

The cast, I can only place about 4 of these people.

That movie scared the socks off of me. And still does, as cheesy as it is. :laugh:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on July 17, 2017, 03:22:30 am
Was just going to post this. Never missed Mission Impossible on Sunday nights in the 60's he was my favorite character RIP

Absolutely...     His portrayal as Rollin Hand was his signature role.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 20, 2017, 06:56:47 pm
Chester Bennington, lead singer of Linkin Park, dies at 41

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Bennington, who reported being abused as a child and becoming addicted to drugs at an early age, first rose to fame in 1999, when he joined the rock band Linkin Park, a position he would hold for the rest of his life. Linkin Park would become a major sensation in the early 2000s.

In addition to Linkin Park, Bennington fronted the bands Dead by Sunrise and, from 2013 to 2015 after the firing of Paul Weiland, the Stone Temple Pilots; Bennington had long considered the latter position to be a lifelong goal of his.

Bennington committed suicide by hanging Thursday morning. His death comes on the birthday of close friend Chris Cornell, who similarly killed himself earlier this year; he is also the second Stone Temple Pilots frontman to commit suicide, after Weiland did so in 2015.

Death notice/obituary from TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/20/linkin-park-singer-chester-bennington-dead-commits-suicide/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_Bennington)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXYiU_JCYtU
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: txradioguy on July 20, 2017, 06:59:06 pm
R.I.P. Chester Bennington lead singer for Linkin Park...committed suicide...41 years old.


For those that don't know his groups music...you can hear part of their song "Somewhere I Belong" at the top of every hour every night during the Mark Levin Show and as he goes to commercial breaks.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: austingirl on July 20, 2017, 07:11:31 pm
Chester Bennington, lead singer of Linkin Park, dies at 41

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Bennington, who reported being abused as a child and becoming addicted to drugs at an early age, first rose to fame in 1999, when he joined the rock band Linkin Park, a position he would hold for the rest of his life. Linkin Park would become a major sensation in the early 2000s.

In addition to Linkin Park, Bennington fronted the bands Dead by Sunrise and, from 2013 to 2015 after the firing of Paul Weiland, the Stone Temple Pilots; Bennington had long considered the latter position to be a lifelong goal of his.

Bennington committed suicide by hanging Thursday morning. His death comes on the birthday of close friend Chris Cornell, who similarly killed himself earlier this year; he is also the second Stone Temple Pilots frontman to commit suicide, after Weiland did so in 2015.


Terrible!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on July 20, 2017, 07:36:05 pm
R.I.P. Chester Bennington lead singer for Linkin Park...committed suicide...41 years old.

Horrible that a life is so bad that living is a less desirable choice.  He went through a lot, and it shows that fame and riches aren't everything.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on July 20, 2017, 08:14:56 pm
Makes no sense. Many people would kill to be in these guy's places.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 20, 2017, 08:17:33 pm
Makes no sense. Many people would kill to be in these guy's places.
Fame and fortune carry their own level of misery and often create more problems than they solve. You still wake up and look yourself in the mirror, and if you don't like the person you see, all that other stuff won't make you happy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on July 20, 2017, 08:20:21 pm
Horrible that a life is so bad that living is a less desirable choice.  He went through a lot, and it shows that fame and riches aren't everything.

Seems there is a lot of short life spans in that Nirvanna era genre.  Strange.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on July 20, 2017, 08:23:56 pm
Chester Bennington, lead singer of Linkin Park, dies at 41

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Bennington, who reported being abused as a child and becoming addicted to drugs at an early age, first rose to fame in 1999, when he joined the rock band Linkin Park, a position he would hold for the rest of his life. Linkin Park would become a major sensation in the early 2000s.

In addition to Linkin Park, Bennington fronted the bands Dead by Sunrise and, from 2013 to 2015 after the firing of Paul Weiland, the Stone Temple Pilots; Bennington had long considered the latter position to be a lifelong goal of his.

Bennington committed suicide by hanging Thursday morning. His death comes on the birthday of close friend Chris Cornell, who similarly killed himself earlier this year; he is also the second Stone Temple Pilots frontman to commit suicide, after Weiland did so in 2015.

Death notice/obituary from TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/20/linkin-park-singer-chester-bennington-dead-commits-suicide/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_Bennington)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXYiU_JCYtU

He had 6 kids too. But I guess he valued his relationship with Cornell more.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on July 20, 2017, 08:25:08 pm
He had 6 kids too. But I guess he valued his relationship with Cornell more.

Yep. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on July 20, 2017, 09:19:17 pm
I have pretty close to zero sympathy or respect, for those that commit suicide.

My younger sister was diagnosed with Depression around 18 yrs. of age. She threatened suicide, but got meds and has slogged it out for 40 years.

Drugs and alcohol compound their problems immensely. Cannot tell if he was drinking/using when de decided to end it

I do therefore have empathy for depressives. It is partly genetic, and hereditary. And meds can treat it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on July 21, 2017, 01:29:07 am
And meds can treat it.

Meds quite often cannot treat it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on July 21, 2017, 01:31:00 am
Fame and fortune carry their own level of misery and often create more problems than they solve. You still wake up and look yourself in the mirror, and if you don't like the person you see, all that other stuff won't make you happy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dmQ3QWpy1Q
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on July 21, 2017, 01:40:19 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sgycukafqQ

[Verse 1]
In this farewell
There’s no blood, there’s no alibi
‘Cause I’ve drawn regret
From the truth of a thousand lies
So let mercy come and wash away

[Hook]
What I’ve done
I’ll face myself
To cross out what I’ve become
Erase myself
And let go of what I’ve done

[Verse 2]
Put to rest what you thought of me
While I clean this slate
With the hands of uncertainty
So let mercy come and wash away

[Hook]
What I’ve done
I’ll face myself
To cross out what I’ve become
Erase myself
And let go of what I’ve done

[Bridge]
For what I’ve done
I start again
And whatever pain may come
Today this ends
I’m forgiving what I’ve done

[Hook]
What I’ve done
I’ll face myself
To cross out what I’ve become
Erase myself
And let go of what I’ve done
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 21, 2017, 09:15:27 pm
Makes no sense. Many people would kill to be in these guy's places.

@Weird Tolkienish Figure

And many other people would become even more depressed if they were to get "into his shoes",only to discover wealth and fame is not the cure for low self-esteem. It might even make it worse because wealth and fame tend to isolate people from others.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 21, 2017, 09:17:07 pm
Fame and fortune carry their own level of misery and often create more problems than they solve. You still wake up and look yourself in the mirror, and if you don't like the person you see, all that other stuff won't make you happy.

@Smokin Joe

Money and fame has never hugged anybody or brightened their day like the smile of a child.

Granted,money is BIG if you are homeless and hungry,but vast wealth is vastly overrated.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 22, 2017, 02:33:12 am
Meds quite often cannot treat it.
Consider that "thoughts of suicide" are a side effect of virtually all antidepressant "meds" that the poster in question suggested. They might help, or they might make it worse. You never know until you take them.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on July 22, 2017, 06:08:25 pm
Actor John Heard of 'Home Alone' movies dies at 72
Associated Press
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Actor John Heard, whose many roles included the father in the "Home Alone" series and a corrupt detective in "The Sopranos," has died. He was 72.
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His death was confirmed by the Santa Clara County medical examiner's office on Saturday. TMZ reported that Heard, who lived in Southern California, was found at a Palo Alto hotel, where he was recovering from back surgery.

Heard played Peter McCallister, the father of Kevin, played by Macaulay Culkin, in "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2: Lost in New York." He said in later interviews that he sought a movie with kids in it so his son, age 5 at the time, could come to the set and have someone to play with.

After it became a big hit, he was reluctant to revisit the role, but his agent convinced him the money was too good to pass up. ...

He earned an Emmy nomination for a guest role as a corrupt police detective in "The Sopranos." Television also kept him busy. He acted in "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," ''Elementary," ''Prison Break," ''Modern Family" and "Entourage." One of his favorite jobs came in the original "Sharknado" television movie in 2013. ...
L.A. Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-john-heard-20170722-story.html)

I remember him from some roles in the "Law and Order" franchise. Good actor.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on July 22, 2017, 06:12:24 pm
@Weird Tolkienish Figure

And many other people would become even more depressed if they were to get "into his shoes",only to discover wealth and fame is not the cure for low self-esteem. It might even make it worse because wealth and fame tend to isolate people from others.

Rich or poor, depression is i think the worst affliction out there. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Thank you for understanding
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on July 22, 2017, 06:47:35 pm
Just saw a repeat of a Law & Order CI episode where Heard played the governor's brother-in-law.  His character brokered a shady deal involving the governor and when the deal was discovered,  the governor left Heard's character hang out to dry.   Good performance. 

Rest in peace, John Heard. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on July 25, 2017, 01:02:33 pm
Bobby Taylor passed away,  had a pivotal role with the Jackson 5, Motown artist.

http://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/death-bobby-taylor-motown-artist-championed-jackson-5

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on July 25, 2017, 02:23:39 pm
Must have been an up and coming artist; tragedy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wurQm7Ol64U

Excerpt:
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/country-singer-25-killed-in-utv-crash-after-playing-at-county-fair-she-was-such-a-beautiful-soul/ar-AAoK889?li=BBnbfcL&OCID=ansmsnnews11

Country Singer, 25, Killed in UTV Crash After Playing at County Fair: She Was 'Such a Beautiful Soul'

A 25-year-old country singer died in a UTV crash early on Sunday after performing at a Nebraska county fair with her band.

Fans mourned the death of Abby Nicole (née Abby Uecker) in the wake of her death at the Thayer County Fair in Deshler. The singer passed away at around 5:30 a.m. after authorities responded to a report of an injured woman about an hour earlier, News Channel Nebraska reports.

“I miss you soooo much Abby Nicole… you were ready to be the One Me we talked about,” one of Nicole’s bandmates, Chad Barnhill wrote in a moving Facebook post on Sunday.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 25, 2017, 02:32:25 pm
What's a UTV? I know what an ATV is, but I'm not familiar with UTV.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on July 25, 2017, 03:28:30 pm
What's a UTV? I know what an ATV is, but I'm not familiar with UTV.
This might help
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/browse/atvs-utvs/_/N-1118208
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 25, 2017, 03:38:34 pm
This might help
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/browse/atvs-utvs/_/N-1118208
Thanks, Gotcha, I just hadn't heard them called that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 25, 2017, 06:07:47 pm
Bobby Taylor passed away,  had a pivotal role with the Jackson 5, Motown artist.

http://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/death-bobby-taylor-motown-artist-championed-jackson-5
Fun fact: one of the members of Taylor's band the Vancouvers was none other than Tommy Chong (yes, THAT Tommy Chong).
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 25, 2017, 06:11:13 pm
Barbara Sinatra, Frank's widow, dies at 90

Barbara Blakeley, who before meeting Sinatra had been married to former Marx Brother Zeppo Marx, was the fourth and final wife of singer Frank Sinatra, whom she married in 1976. Upon his death in 1998, she inherited the vast majority of the late singer's fortune, including rights to his music catalog and several houses. In her own right, she served as a philanthropist and set up a center for abused children.

She was the subject of the film The Night We Called it a Day.

Obituary from Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/07/25/barbara-sinatra-wife-frank-sinatra-dead-at-90.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Sinatra)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 25, 2017, 09:27:54 pm
Bobby Taylor passed away,  had a pivotal role with the Jackson 5, Motown artist.

http://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/death-bobby-taylor-motown-artist-championed-jackson-5

@TomSea

I saw the name Taylor,and automatically assumed Johnny Taylor.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on July 27, 2017, 02:55:40 pm
http://www.avclub.com/article/rip-legendary-voice-actress-june-foray-258658

R.I.P. legendary voice actress June Foray
By William Hughes

June Foray, the voice of Rocky The Flying Squirrel, Granny from Looney Tunes, and literally hundreds of other beloved animated characters, has died. Heralded as “the first lady” and the “queen” of voice acting, Foray’s career in film and TV stretched for 71 years and more than 300 credits, embodying everyone from Magica De Spell to Dorothy from The Wizard Of Oz. As reported by Variety, Foray was 99.

...

Excerpt. Read more at link.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on July 27, 2017, 02:57:49 pm
http://www.avclub.com/article/rip-legendary-voice-actress-june-foray-258658

R.I.P. legendary voice actress June Foray
By William Hughes

June Foray, the voice of Rocky The Flying Squirrel, Granny from Looney Tunes, and literally hundreds of other beloved animated characters, has died. Heralded as “the first lady” and the “queen” of voice acting, Foray’s career in film and TV stretched for 71 years and more than 300 credits, embodying everyone from Magica De Spell to Dorothy from The Wizard Of Oz. As reported by Variety, Foray was 99.

...

Excerpt. Read more at link.

"And now here's something you'll REALLY like."

I would've never guessed Rocky was a lady.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on July 27, 2017, 03:08:37 pm
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  ... Foray voiced numerous animated characters during her 71-year-career, including Natasha Fatale from “The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show,” Granny from “Looney Tunes” and “Space Jam,” Cindy Lou Who from “How the Grinch Stole Christmas,” Lucifer the cat from “Cinderella,” Grandmother Fa from “Mulan,” and the doll “Talky Tina” on “The Twilight Zone.”

She also lent her voice to characters in “The Flintstones,” “The Dudley Do-Right Show,” “All-New Dennis the Menace,” “Duck Tales,” “Thumbelina,” and Disney’s Adventures of the Gummi Bears.
More, plus photos. (http://pix11.com/2017/07/27/june-foray-voice-of-rocky-the-squirrel-and-many-more-dead-at-99/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on July 27, 2017, 03:31:23 pm
"And now here's something you'll REALLY like."

I would've never guessed Rocky was a lady.
Hokey smoke!!!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on July 27, 2017, 05:52:17 pm
I still say Rocky & Bullwinkle was the greatest horrible-animation cartoon of all time.

Here's the great June Foray in her funniest cartoon role . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty3ASGtr4MA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWhDymEc5nA

The lady herself was very attractive, by the way . . .

(http://beyondthemarquee.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/june8x10-600x770.jpg)

(http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/wennpic/june-foray-premiere-happy-feet-two-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on July 27, 2017, 06:23:39 pm
I still say Rocky & Bullwinkle was the greatest horrible-animation cartoon of all time.

Here's the great June Foray in her funniest cartoon role . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty3ASGtr4MA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWhDymEc5nA

The lady herself was very attractive, by the way . . .

(http://beyondthemarquee.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/june8x10-600x770.jpg)

(http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/wennpic/june-foray-premiere-happy-feet-two-01.jpg)
Yes, horrible animation....great characters. Boris Badenov, Snidely Whiplash, Dudley Doright....and others I can't quite remember.
Of course, much of the topical dialogue went over my head as I wasn't even a teen when I started watching. But I do remember the Dudley Doright episode where Snidely was on trial for his crimes and was defended by Nell Fenwick. Nell, like a modern, liberal lawyer, blamed all of Snidely's crimes on society with Snidely grinning like crazy.  Many more hilarious episodes.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on July 27, 2017, 06:38:20 pm
Yes, horrible animation....great characters. Boris Badenov, Snidely Whiplash, Dudley Doright....and others I can't quite remember.
Of course, much of the topical dialogue went over my head as I wasn't even a teen when I started watching. But I do remember the Dudley Doright episode where Snidely was on trial for his crimes and was defended by Nell Fenwick. Nell, like a modern, liberal lawyer, blamed all of Snidely's crimes on society with Snidely grinning like crazy.  Many more hilarious episodes.
What did you expect from a girl who was in love with a horse? ;)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on July 27, 2017, 09:07:25 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/sosJy00.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAs07ZhCMio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1zqOHhtcLs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieOGZtGUjRQ
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on July 27, 2017, 09:37:19 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/sosJy00.jpg)
She voiced my favourite Smurf---Jokey!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9N4IqWmLSw
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 27, 2017, 11:28:46 pm
I still say Rocky & Bullwinkle was the greatest horrible-animation cartoon of all time.

 
The lady herself was very attractive, by the way . . .

 

@EasyAce

Yeah,but it was her voice as Natasha on the Bullwinkle and Rocky Show that really pulled pre-teen strings I didn't even know I had. She was the only reason I ever watched the show. She would say something in that heavy Russian accent,and I'd get a little dizzy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 27, 2017, 11:31:26 pm
What did you expect from a girl who was in love with a horse? ;)

@EasyAce

A video the typical Rocky and Bullwinkle viewer weren't old enough to watch?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on July 27, 2017, 11:40:28 pm
@EasyAce

A video the typical Rocky and Bullwinkle viewer weren't old enough to watch?
@sneakypete
LOL
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on July 28, 2017, 06:43:40 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqVOP1TS5k

Passes away. RIP.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/music/2017/07/27/bluer-than-blue-singer-michael-johnson-dies/518290001/

http://newsbake.com/entertainment-news/music-entertainment/breaking-country-music-legend-just-found-lifelss-home-will-missed/   This article tells more, saying he was largely a country music artist who had a crossover pop hit.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on July 28, 2017, 01:11:20 pm
Everything my parents told me was made clear by....the...Squirrel
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 28, 2017, 01:12:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqVOP1TS5k

Passes away. RIP.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/music/2017/07/27/bluer-than-blue-singer-michael-johnson-dies/518290001/

http://newsbake.com/entertainment-news/music-entertainment/breaking-country-music-legend-just-found-lifelss-home-will-missed/   This article tells more, saying he was largely a country music artist who had a crossover pop hit.
That's sad to hear. He was a pop artist first, really—he had quite a few soft rock hits, then he flipped to country in the early 80s like a lot of other soft-rockers.

My personal favorite of his:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-5lN0DGubI
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on July 28, 2017, 11:45:16 pm
Marty Sklar, pioneering imagineer who channeled Walt Disney, dies at 83

Quote
Marty Sklar had only just graduated from UCLA, and here he was shadowing Walt Disney, his demanding new boss.

The fledgling writer was unsure how to make himself useful, but he had a mind to scribble down some of the maxims Disney laced into conversation.

“Know your audience.” “Tell one story at a time.” “Wear your guests' shoes.”

Long after his mentor's death, Sklar recognized the treasure-trove of wisdom he had started compiling at Walt Disney's elbow in the late 1950s. He distilled it all into "Mickey's Ten Commandments," a widely circulated creed that remains a touchstone in the theme park industry.

The commandments were a cornerstone of Sklar's own 54-year career at Walt Disney Co., where he led the creative development of the Burbank company’s parks, attractions and resorts around the world, including its ventures in the cruise business, housing development and the redesign of Times Square in New York.

Sklar died Thursday in his Hollywood Hills home. No cause of death was given. He was 83.
More (http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-me-marty-sklar-obituary-20170727-story.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Sklar)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on July 29, 2017, 12:59:55 am
(http://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18670770_1629028657139822_8936899807942449598_n.png?oh=3646259d6223bf82d2361823286226a7&oe=59E18C81)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on July 29, 2017, 02:26:24 am
(http://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18670770_1629028657139822_8936899807942449598_n.png?oh=3646259d6223bf82d2361823286226a7&oe=59E18C81)
They didn't bury the rest of him, just the best of him ****drummer
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: montanajoe on July 29, 2017, 03:39:40 am
Geez I took my kids to the latest despicable me movie the other day and rather enjoyed it but it got me thinking what ever happened to the cartoon voices I remember as a kid. To be honest I'd never heard of her before today but RIP June Foray ....you made a lot of people happy...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on July 29, 2017, 10:32:39 am
http://www.avclub.com/article/rip-legendary-voice-actress-june-foray-258658

R.I.P. legendary voice actress June Foray
By William Hughes

June Foray, the voice of Rocky The Flying Squirrel, Granny from Looney Tunes, and literally hundreds of other beloved animated characters, has died. Heralded as “the first lady” and the “queen” of voice acting, Foray’s career in film and TV stretched for 71 years and more than 300 credits, embodying everyone from Magica De Spell to Dorothy from The Wizard Of Oz. As reported by Variety, Foray was 99.



...

Excerpt. Read more at link.

Oh no! Oh no! She was, the best female in the voice over business ever! I'm really really bummed about this. She was a legend.

RIP. And thank you, for all the marvelous voices. I'm really going to miss you.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on July 29, 2017, 10:35:54 am
@EasyAce

Yeah,but it was her voice as Natasha on the Bullwinkle and Rocky Show that really pulled pre-teen strings I didn't even know I had. She was the only reason I ever watched the show. She would say something in that heavy Russian accent,and I'd get a little dizzy.

She did Rocky and Natasha and scared me on the Twilight Zone as the talking doll,and the talking slot machine. She had some range. She also had me laughing when she was on Married with Children.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 29, 2017, 05:10:20 pm
Quote
She also had me laughing when she was on Married with Children.

@Freya

When was she on married with children? What character did she play? I loved that show,and don't  think I missed an episode.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on July 29, 2017, 05:34:32 pm


@Freya

When was she on married with children? What character did she play? I loved that show,and don't  think I missed an episode.

@sneakypete

The one with the puppets. Which I didn't like because, well, puppets freak me the hell out.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on July 29, 2017, 06:35:28 pm
@sneakypete

The one with the puppets. Which I didn't like because, well, puppets freak me the hell out.
Is this the one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syLO38IOuUA
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on July 29, 2017, 06:53:53 pm
Is this the one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syLO38IOuUA

Yes!!!!

She was Scary Mary. Great find!  :beer:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 29, 2017, 07:42:05 pm
Yes!!!!

She was Scary Mary. Great find!  :beer:

@EC @Freya @GtHawk

Thank you all! I would have sworn I had see every episode of the Bundy's,but I guess I didn't.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on July 29, 2017, 08:16:39 pm
@EC @Freya @GtHawk

Thank you all! I would have sworn I had see every episode of the Bundy's,but I guess I didn't.
I consider Married With Children one of the series that is  worth watching again :thumbsup2:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on July 29, 2017, 08:21:59 pm
I consider Married With Children one of the series that is  worth watching again :thumbsup2:

I hadn't seen it since it was first run. Everyone looked so young.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on July 29, 2017, 08:24:24 pm
I'll tell you all something if you won't laugh. When I was in high school I wanted to do voice work. My idols were Mel Blanc and June Foray.

I did amateur radio in HS and college. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on July 29, 2017, 11:59:32 pm
I'll tell you all something if you won't laugh. When I was in high school I wanted to do voice work. My idols were Mel Blanc and June Foray.

I did amateur radio in HS and college.
I'm not laughing, @Freya.

I got to do professional radio for a few years. Loved it!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 30, 2017, 12:53:25 am
I'll tell you all something if you won't laugh. When I was in high school I wanted to do voice work. My idols were Mel Blanc and June Foray.

I did amateur radio in HS and college.
if there were a way to get into that— and I firmly believe that I have the voice to do that sort of thing professionally— I would love to try something like that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 30, 2017, 01:37:36 am
if there were a way to get into that— and I firmly believe that I have the voice to do that sort of thing professionally— I would love to try something like that.

I have a face for radio, which is why I did it to work my way through college.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on July 30, 2017, 01:43:57 am
I'll tell you all something if you won't laugh. When I was in high school I wanted to do voice work. My idols were Mel Blanc and June Foray.

I did amateur radio in HS and college.
Why would anyone laugh, many of us when younger played around doing impressions, some were very good but very few make that transition to professional.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on July 30, 2017, 01:47:25 am
I have a face for radio, which is why I did it to work my way through college.

I could backtime like a pro.  Hated "stepping" on the lyrics!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 30, 2017, 02:31:29 am
I could backtime like a pro.  Hated "stepping" on the lyrics!

Oh, yeah.  Cold, cold ending, landing right on a network feed.  Like a boss!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on July 30, 2017, 02:57:27 am
Was it really not covered here yet? One of the Little Rascals passed away, leaving 5 remaining.

Our Gang/Little Rascals were discussed one time; and more expert-types insist the early show was a much better version.

Anyway, back to the subject, Leonard Landy passed away:

(http://images.opposingviews.com/ovi/catalog/downloads/preview/rndr_782x440/2017/07/landy-1501246633.jpg/rndr_782x440.jpg)

http://variety.com/2017/tv/obituaries-people-news/leonard-landy-died-dead-our-gang-little-rascals-1202508793/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on July 30, 2017, 04:41:12 pm
Oh no! Oh no! She was, the best female in the voice over business ever! I'm really really bummed about this. She was a legend.

RIP. And thank you, for all the marvelous voices. I'm really going to miss you.
@Freya
I found out that another voice actress died the same day: Patti Deutsch.  In addition to Match Game way back when, she worked on The Smurfs, Monsters, Inc., and The Emperor's New Groove.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on July 30, 2017, 04:43:48 pm
Oh, yeah.  Cold, cold ending, landing right on a network feed.  Like a boss!

LOL.  Cool as a cucumber!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 30, 2017, 04:59:22 pm
LOL.  Cool as a cucumber!

Picture ELO Don't Bring Me Down ending right on the open of an ABC news feed.  That cold.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on July 30, 2017, 05:18:28 pm
@TomSea

The Little Rascals probably mean nothing to the present generation.  June Foray's passing barely merited a short paragraph in my local paper. 

Rest in peace, Leonard Landy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on July 30, 2017, 05:35:55 pm
@Freya
I found out that another voice actress died the same day: Patti Deutsch.  In addition to Match Game way back when, she worked on The Smurfs, Monsters, Inc., and The Emperor's New Groove.
She was funny, I think I first saw her on Laugh In, which a retro channel Decades still runs twice a day during the week.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on July 30, 2017, 05:56:56 pm
@Freya
I found out that another voice actress died the same day: Patti Deutsch.  In addition to Match Game way back when, she worked on The Smurfs, Monsters, Inc., and The Emperor's New Groove.

I remember her on the Match Game. I think she was Smurfette?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on July 30, 2017, 06:32:20 pm
I remember her on the Match Game. I think she was Smurfette?
She was indeed Smurfette---which got her a chance to work with the late great June Foray,
who voiced Jokey Smurf!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on July 30, 2017, 07:50:41 pm
This was funny.  Some not so PC comments.  Out takes with June, Bill Conrad, Paul Freesand Bill Scot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUDzuGECfdQ
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on July 30, 2017, 08:00:12 pm
Lee May (baseball obituary)

Quote
One of the most feared hitters of his generation, Lee May is one of only 11 major leaguers to have 100-RBI seasons for three different teams. He also had 11 consecutive seasons (1968-1978) of at least 20 home runs and 80 RBIs. In an 18-year major-league career, the “Big Bopper of Birmingham” played for the Cincinnati Reds, Houston Astros, Baltimore Orioles, and Kansas City Royals. A three-time All-Star (1969, 1971, and 1972), he appeared in the postseason three times, including the 1970 World Series for the Reds and the 1979 Series for the Orioles. (The third was a Division Series in 1981 when he was with the Royals.)

May was a solid first baseman defensively (.994 career fielding percentage), but also struck out often (100 or more in ten seasons). What he was really known for, however, was his power. He slammed 354 home runs and drove in 1,244 runs the major leagues. He freely admitted, “I deliberately try to hit a home run every time up. That is what they pay me for.”1 Still, despite his power numbers, he lacks some recognition and, as sportswriter Jim Murray once wrote, “played in the undeserved obscurity of a bullpen catcher.”2

Lee Andrew May was born on March 23, 1943, in Birmingham, Alabama...

Lee May died on July 29, 2017.

More (https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/1e424faf)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_May)

Career stats (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mayle01.shtml)

@EasyAce

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on July 31, 2017, 03:29:43 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Oscar-nominated actor, director and playwright Sam Shepard dies, aged 73, surrounded by his family at home in Kentucky after battling ALS

    Sam Shepard passed away on July 30 at his home in Kentucky aged 73
    Shepard had been ill with ALS for sometime and was surrounded by his children and sisters at the time of his death
    He is the author of 44 plays as well as several books of short stories, essays and memoirs
    He received the Pulitzer Prize for Drama in 1979 for his play Buried Child
    Shepard was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor in 1983's The Right Stuff for his portrayal of pilot Chuck Yeager

By Regina F. Graham For Dailymail.com
Published: 11:12 EDT, 31 July 2017 | Updated: 11:23 EDT, 31 July 2017

Full story (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4746948/Playwright-Sam-Shepard-dies-aged-73.html)
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More at NYT (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/theater/sam-shepard-dead.html):
Quote
... One of the most important and influential early writers in the Off Broadway movement, Mr. Shepard captured and chronicled the darker sides of American family life in plays like “Buried Child,” which won the Pulitzer Prize for drama in 1979, and “Curse of the Starving Class” and “A Lie of the Mind.”

He was widely regarded as one of the most original voices of his generation, winning praise from critics for his searing portraits of spouses, siblings and lovers struggling with issues of identity, failure and the fleeting nature of the American dream. He was nominated for two other Pulitzers, for “True West” and “Fool for Love,” which both received Broadway productions.

Mr. Shepard was also an accomplished actor, nominated for an Academy Award for his supporting role in “The Right Stuff.” His most recent work was in the Netflix show “Bloodline,” where he appeared as the character of Robert Rayburn. He also appeared on New York stages, winning strong reviews for his performance in the Off Broadway production of Caryl Churchill’s “A Number” in 2004.  ...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on July 31, 2017, 03:42:54 pm
Jeanne Moreau: French screen icon and star of Jules et Jim, dies at 89
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40774985
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 31, 2017, 04:46:24 pm
@Freya
I found out that another voice actress died the same day: Patti Deutsch.  In addition to Match Game way back when, she worked on The Smurfs, Monsters, Inc., and The Emperor's New Groove.
Comedienne, voice actress and game show panelist Patti Deutsch dies at 73

As a member of the Ace Trucking Company comedy troupe, Deutsch got her big break on Tom Jones's variety show in 1969, then moved on to one season with Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In and several years as a regular panelist on the hit game shows Tattletales and the Match Game. She had a career renaissance in the late 1990s and into the 2000s as a voice actress.

Deutsch died of an unspecified form of cancer July 26.

Obituary from The Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/patti-deutsch-dead-laugh-match-game-comedienne-was-73-1025096)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patti_Deutsch)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0222095/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on July 31, 2017, 05:01:38 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Oscar-nominated actor, director and playwright Sam Shepard dies, aged 73, surrounded by his family at home in Kentucky after battling ALS

    Sam Shepard passed away on July 30 at his home in Kentucky aged 73
    Shepard had been ill with ALS for sometime and was surrounded by his children and sisters at the time of his death
    He is the author of 44 plays as well as several books of short stories, essays and memoirs
    He received the Pulitzer Prize for Drama in 1979 for his play Buried Child
    Shepard was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor in 1983's The Right Stuff for his portrayal of pilot Chuck Yeager

By Regina F. Graham For Dailymail.com
Published: 11:12 EDT, 31 July 2017 | Updated: 11:23 EDT, 31 July 2017

Full story (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4746948/Playwright-Sam-Shepard-dies-aged-73.html)
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More at NYT (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/theater/sam-shepard-dead.html):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgR-KadhgMI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4eE_eOUwyQ
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on July 31, 2017, 05:06:52 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Oscar-nominated actor, director and playwright Sam Shepard dies, aged 73, surrounded by his family at home in Kentucky after battling ALS

   
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Sam Shepard passed away on July 30 at his home in Kentucky aged 73
    Shepard had been ill with ALS for sometime and was surrounded by his children and sisters at the time of his death
    He is the author of 44 plays as well as several books of short stories, essays and memoirs
    He received the Pulitzer Prize for Drama in 1979 for his play Buried Child
    Shepard was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor in 1983's The Right Stuff for his portrayal of pilot Chuck Yeager

 
@mountaineer

Ok,that was a life well-lived,regardless of your standards.

Well done,Sam!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on July 31, 2017, 05:36:44 pm
Comedienne, voice actress and game show panelist Patti Deutsch dies at 73

As a member of the Ace Trucking Company comedy troupe, Deutsch got her big break on Tom Jones's variety show in 1969, then moved on to one season with Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In and several years as a regular panelist on the hit game shows Tattletales and the Match Game. She had a career renaissance in the late 1990s and into the 2000s as a voice actress.

Deutsch died of an unspecified form of cancer July 26.

Obituary from The Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/patti-deutsch-dead-laugh-match-game-comedienne-was-73-1025096)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patti_Deutsch)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0222095/)

She had nice "Upper Frontals"!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on August 02, 2017, 01:24:26 pm
Ara Parseghian, college football coaching legend, dies at 94

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Ara_Parseghian_%28cropped%29.jpg)

Parseghian had a brief stint as a running back in the NFL before turning his sights on coaching, beginning his career at his alma mater Miami of Ohio, then going to Northwestern University.

From 1964 to 1974, Parseghian served as head coach of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, where he compiled a record of 95-17-4, never having a losing season, and earned two national championships (1966 and 1973). Health problems forced him to abandon the post, and he spent much of the rest of his career as a broadcaster.

Parseghian is a member of the College Football Hall of Fame. He died from complications of a hip infection.

Obituary from ABC's affiliate in South Bend (http://www.abc57.com/news/ara-parseghian)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ara_Parseghian)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on August 02, 2017, 02:16:32 pm
Ara Parseghian, college football coaching legend, dies at 94

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Ara_Parseghian_%28cropped%29.jpg)

Parseghian had a brief stint as a running back in the NFL before turning his sights on coaching, beginning his career at his alma mater Miami of Ohio, then going to Northwestern University.

From 1964 to 1974, Parseghian served as head coach of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, where he compiled a record of 95-17-4, never having a losing season, and earned two national championships (1966 and 1973). Health problems forced him to abandon the post, and he spent much of the rest of his career as a broadcaster.

Parseghian is a member of the College Football Hall of Fame. He died from complications of a hip infection.

Obituary from ABC's affiliate in South Bend (http://www.abc57.com/news/ara-parseghian)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ara_Parseghian)
I remember when Parseghian took over ND and revived the program. His image was tarnished somewhat by the 1966 Mich. St game (game of the century) where he didn't go for a win in the last minutes and settled for a tie. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on August 02, 2017, 02:22:57 pm
I don't remember much about Ara Parseghian's coaching career, but I do remember once watching a football game with my Dad where Parseghian was the "color commentator."  Seemed that Parseghian couldn't stop praising every player on both teams.  No matter whether the player was exceptional or riding the bench, Parseghian had something complimentary to say about him  It was either something like "he's the greatest quarterback in the league" or if the player was lousy, "he loves dogs and children."  After about the 9,000 time Parseghian praised some bum on one of the teams, my normally unflappable father jumped out of his lounge chair, shouted some naughty words at the TV which I won't repeat here, and stormed out of the room. 

Anyway, may Ara Parseghian rest in peace. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 02, 2017, 03:24:45 pm
I remember when Parseghian took over ND and revived the program. His image was tarnished somewhat by the 1966 Mich. St game (game of the century) where he didn't go for a win in the last minutes and settled for a tie.
You wonder what Parseghian thought when Nebraska coach Tom Osborne went for the win instead of the tie
in the 1984 Orange Bowl by calling for a two-point conversion that was foiled when Miami tipped Turner Gill's
pass away in the end zone and the Cornhuskers lost both the game and the national championship.

The calls for Osborne's head in Nebraska (I was there, serving in the Air Force at Offutt Air Force Base at the
time) didn't let up for months. When someone on base finally asked me what I thought---and he even said, "Forget
my rank" (he was a lieutenant colonel and we were in uniform) and just be honest, I laid it out cold: "The guy
tried to win the game and these jerks want to crucify him? I'd recommend beating them senseless but
you can't beat people into the condition they're already in." I learned later that light colonel went around
repeating my comment and getting big laughs out of it while saying I had a huge point.

Between that and stories I heard such as the Oklahoma University president (I forget his name) who once
told Playboy (for their football preview) that goddammit he wanted a university his football team could
be proud of, or the Texas high school (I forget which now) whose football coach finally required police
protection because he couldn't shake a losing season after several consecutive winning ones, I got turned
off school football forever, and I was already getting sick of the NFL as it was.

RIP Mr. Parseghian. I still remember the 1973 Sugar Bowl triumph and the way Notre Dame made it stick
after Bob Thomas planted a 19-yard field goal to put the Irish up by a point with four minutes left in the
game.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on August 03, 2017, 03:26:52 pm
Jim Marrs, one of the top 2 JFK conspiracy theorists imho, has passed away.  I'd say the other major one was Mark Lane. The movie JFK may have been largely based on what these two said.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Jim-Marrs-JFK-conspiracy-theory-dead-at-73-11731000.php
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 03, 2017, 08:22:47 pm
Goldy McJohn, Original Steppenwolf Keyboardist, Dies at 72 (http://ultimateclassicrock.com/goldy-mcjohn-steppenwolf-dead/)

RIP sir . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nz6kCSetDM
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on August 03, 2017, 08:29:43 pm
The first album I ever bought (with babysitting money) was Steppenwolf Gold.  Still have it as a matter of fact.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Restored on August 03, 2017, 08:33:56 pm
Cornelius Fudge died.

We don't send people to Azkaban for blowing up their aunt.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40818839 (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40818839)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 03, 2017, 08:34:10 pm
The first album I ever bought (with babysitting money) was Steppenwolf Gold.  Still have it as a matter of fact.
My first Steppenwolf album was . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBxjv4K2DOE
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on August 03, 2017, 08:52:34 pm
John Kay had one of the greatest voices in rock. I wish Steppenwolf had recorded a lot more music.  I put their greatest hits on my MP3 player.
The last thing I heard about McJohn after he left Steppenwolf was that for a while he was working at a golf driving range. He was one of the guys in the cage picking up the balls.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on August 03, 2017, 09:04:38 pm
Cornelius Fudge died.

We don't send people to Azkaban for blowing up their aunt.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40818839 (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40818839)

Looks like he was a real, talented, and classically trained actor. Getting to be so rare today.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 03, 2017, 09:18:37 pm
John Kay had one of the greatest voices in rock. I wish Steppenwolf had recorded a lot more music.  I put their greatest hits on my MP3 player.
The last thing I heard about McJohn after he left Steppenwolf was that for a while he was working at a golf driving range. He was one of the guys in the cage picking up the balls.

 :pondering:

(http://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b3/8f/ea/b38feaa8320f4a8caa61f7e674f37428--golf-pictures-wire-mesh.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on August 04, 2017, 01:53:29 am
Cornelius Fudge died.

We don't send people to Azkaban for blowing up their aunt.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40818839 (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40818839)
Really enjoyed him in All Creatures Great And Small, RIP Siegfried.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on August 04, 2017, 01:53:18 pm
Daniel Licht, ‘Dexter,’ ‘Children of the Corn’ Composer, Dies at 60
Jon Burlingame     AUGUST 3, 2017 | 09:36PM PT
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/daniel-licht-composer-dexter-children-of-the-corn-composer-dead-1202515585/

Daniel Licht, composer for TV’s “Dexter,” died of cancer late Wednesday. He was 60.

Licht scored all eight seasons of “Dexter,” the Showtime serial-killer drama, from 2006 to 2013. Although he also wrote music for movies and other TV projects, it was his quirky music for “Dexter” – employing unusual sounds using bones, knives, scissors, duct tape, wine glasses, didgeridoo, Irish harp and other instruments – that became his best-known work.

...

Excerpt.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 04, 2017, 02:39:34 pm
Cornelius Fudge died.

We don't send people to Azkaban for blowing up their aunt.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40818839 (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40818839)

@Restored

It should also be noted that he served with Richard Burton as enlisted men in the RAF during WW-2. IMHO,this is and was no small thing.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on August 04, 2017, 02:42:24 pm
Daniel Licht, ‘Dexter,’ ‘Children of the Corn’ Composer, Dies at 60
Jon Burlingame     AUGUST 3, 2017 | 09:36PM PT
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/daniel-licht-composer-dexter-children-of-the-corn-composer-dead-1202515585/

Daniel Licht, composer for TV’s “Dexter,” died of cancer late Wednesday. He was 60.

Licht scored all eight seasons of “Dexter,” the Showtime serial-killer drama, from 2006 to 2013. Although he also wrote music for movies and other TV projects, it was his quirky music for “Dexter” – employing unusual sounds using bones, knives, scissors, duct tape, wine glasses, didgeridoo, Irish harp and other instruments – that became his best-known work.

...

Excerpt.
That's really strange....the wife and I recently finished watching the entire Dexter series. The theme song  ran in my head every morning after a previous evening's viewing.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 04, 2017, 02:43:04 pm
Looks like he was a real, talented, and classically trained actor. Getting to be so rare today.

@Free Vulcan

If you think that,you don't watch many BBC productions. The British take their acting VERY seriously. IF they hire a lead that is either handsome or beautiful,that is nothing more than a happy coincidence because their PRIME goal is to hire the best actors they can find,regardless of the status of the role. No airheads there with supporting actors carrying them. In fact,no second-string actors in sight anywhere.

Don't believe me? Just watch anything from the BBC on PBS and see for yourself.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on August 04, 2017, 02:46:27 pm
@Free Vulcan

If you think that,you don't watch many BBC productions. The British take their acting VERY seriously. IF they hire a lead that is either handsome or beautiful,that is nothing more than a happy coincidence because their PRIME goal is to hire the best actors they can find,regardless of the status of the role. No airheads there with supporting actors carrying them. In fact,no second-string actors in sight anywhere.

Don't believe me? Just watch anything from the BBC on PBS and see for yourself.
I was surprised recently to read about some young, prominent British actor who was a method actor.  I always remember reading about Laurence Olivier and Dustin Hoffman during the making of "The Marathon Man."
During one scene Hoffman was having trouble doing his lines and remarked out loud that he couldn't find his motivation.
Olivier supposedly retorted why didn't he try acting.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on August 04, 2017, 02:46:33 pm
@Free Vulcan

If you think that,you don't watch many BBC productions. The British take their acting VERY seriously. IF they hire a lead that is either handsome or beautiful,that is nothing more than a happy coincidence because their PRIME goal is to hire the best actors they can find,regardless of the status of the role. No airheads there with supporting actors carrying them. In fact,no second-string actors in sight anywhere.

Don't believe me? Just watch anything from the BBC on PBS and see for yourself.

I agree and I like watching people who look like people.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 04, 2017, 02:59:21 pm
I agree and I like watching people who look like people.

@Sanguine

Me,too. How believable are gritty dramas when all you see running around are super models with impeccable makeup and hair,faking karate kicks while wearing 6 inch heels,and beating the hell out of a half-dozen 300 lb thugs with weapons? That crap is more of a cartoon than a drama.

If you want to see genuine scary,check out "Alice" (Ruth Wilson) in the "Luther" series. She plays a murdering sociopath opposite Idris Elba,who is the homicide detective that first tried to arrest her for murder. Elba is a big,scary-looking guy that used to be a professional boxer,but it's Alice that is the scary one. Hell,she scared ME,and I KNEW it wasn't real and I was watching it on tv. Elba seemed to have no problem at all treating her as the scary one,either.

Ruth Wilson is something with bells on. Anything she is in is worth watching. Yeah,she is attractive,but no one will ever confuse her with being a model or great beauty. She IS one HELL of a talented actress,though.

One other thing I like about the British dramas is they never seem to play to any other stereotypes,either. ANY of the characters can die off at any time with no advance warning. 

In other words,it's kinda like real life.

BTW,if you get a chance,watch or buy the DVD's for the series "MI-5". Just might be the best dramatic series ever aired on tv.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on August 04, 2017, 03:01:35 pm
@Sanguine

Me,too. How believable are gritty dramas when all you see running around are super models with impeccable makeup and hair,faking karate kicks while wearing 6 inch heels,and beating the hell out of a half-dozen 300 lb thugs with weapons? That crap is more of a cartoon than a drama.

If you want to see genuine scary,check out "Alice" (Ruth Wilson) in the "Luther" series. She plays a murdering sociopath opposite Idris Elba,who is the homicide detective that first tried to arrest her for murder. Elba is a big,scary-looking guy that used to be a professional boxer,but it's Alice that is the scary one. Hell,she scared ME,and I KNEW it wasn't real and I was watching it on tv. Elba seemed to have no problem at all treating her as the scary one,either.

Ruth Wilson is something with bells on. Anything she is in is worth watching. Yeah,she is attractive,but no one will ever confuse her with being a model or great beauty. She IS one HELL of a talented actress,though.

One other thing I like about the British dramas is they never seem to play to any other stereotypes,either. ANY of the characters can die off at any time with no advance warning. 

In other words,it's kinda like real life.

BTW,if you get a chance,watch or buy the DVD's for the series "MI-5". Just might be the best dramatic series ever aired on tv.

I'd forgotten Luther.  That was good, but brutal.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 04, 2017, 10:38:35 pm
I'd forgotten Luther.  That was good, but brutal.

@Sanguine

But believable.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on August 05, 2017, 12:37:31 am
@Restored

It should also be noted that he served with Richard Burton as enlisted men in the RAF during WW-2. IMHO,this is and was no small thing.
No service in WWII was a small thing, but the war was over by the time he returned from flight school.

"Hardy won a place at Magdalen College, Oxford, but joined the RAF in 1944, going to the U.S. to train as a pilot. Before he could see action, the war was over and Hardy returned to Britain to finish his degree — not history, but English."

Really good article here 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4759116/Harry-Potter-actor-Robert-Hardy-dies-aged-91.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 05, 2017, 04:08:39 am
No service in WWII was a small thing, but the war was over by the time he returned from flight school.

"Hardy won a place at Magdalen College, Oxford, but joined the RAF in 1944, going to the U.S. to train as a pilot. Before he could see action, the war was over and Hardy returned to Britain to finish his degree — not history, but English."

Really good article here 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4759116/Harry-Potter-actor-Robert-Hardy-dies-aged-91.html


@GtHawk

Thanks! The article I read made it sound like he was enlisted working at an airbase in England. In fact it DID say he and Burton worked at the air base. Said nothing about him being a pilot or in pilot training.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on August 05, 2017, 04:35:16 am
@GtHawk

Thanks! The article I read made it sound like he was enlisted working at an airbase in England. In fact it DID say he and Burton worked at the air base. Said nothing about him being a pilot or in pilot training.
Happy to share it, I learned things about him I didn't know, even though I am pretty sure I had seen a biography of him before.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: berdie on August 07, 2017, 01:15:39 am
John Kay had one of the greatest voices in rock. I wish Steppenwolf had recorded a lot more music.  I put their greatest hits on my MP3 player.
The last thing I heard about McJohn after he left Steppenwolf was that for a while he was working at a golf driving range. He was one of the guys in the cage picking up the balls.

I sure don't doubt you @goatprairie .

I saw him several years ago on late night tv, His voice sounded good.
But it was a little strange seeing an old guy singing Born To Be Wild.  But it may have been appropriate. He looked like he had been rode  hard and put a way wet.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 07, 2017, 04:40:38 am
Darren Daulton, former Phillies All-Star catcher, dies at 55 (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20269993/darren-daulton-former-philadelphia-phillies-catcher-dies-55)
Cancer is a murderer as it is, glioblastoma a particularly brutal one.

RIP to one of the key men of the 1993 Philthy Phillies pennant winners---and one of the few
on the club who blamed no one but himself for his problems off the field and in retirement.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 07, 2017, 01:59:56 pm
Don Baylor, who won MVP with Angels and World Series with Twins, dies at 68 (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20272947/don-baylor-1979-american-league-mvp-angels-dies-age-68)
Multiple myeloma, a fourteen-year battle. He partnered with former Yankee pitcher/Mets and Yankees
pitching coach Mel Stottlemyre to promote research into the disease. Baylor also played in three straight
World Series---for the 1986 Red Sox, the 1987 Twins (who won that Series), and the 1988 Athletics (in
his final season as a player)---and won an American League MVP with the 1979 Angels. He later
became the first manager of the Colorado Rockies and subsequently managed the Cubs for a spell.

RIP to a class act.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on August 08, 2017, 01:42:26 pm
Ty Hardin, actor turned tax activist, dies at 87

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Ty_Hardin_1958.JPG/220px-Ty_Hardin_1958.JPG)

Hardin, a Korean War veteran and former college football player under Paul "Bear" Bryant, had a brief spell of success in Hollywood, including as the star of the Western TV series Bronco in the late 1950s. After a string of movies he made in Europe in the 1960s, his acting career largely ended.

A tax dispute with his then-home state of Arizona led to him founding a group later known as the Arizona Patriots, which began as a tax protest organization but was later infiltrated by antisemites, Laroucheans and other assorted radicals, as well as FBI undercover agents. The organization was raided in 1986 once it was clear the group was going to pull off terrorist attacks if left unchecked, at which point Hardin left the state of Arizona and lived a mostly quiet life afterward.

Obituary from the New York Post (http://pagesix.com/2017/08/08/ty-hardin-star-of-tv-western-bronco-dies-at-87/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Hardin)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0362249/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 08, 2017, 07:22:12 pm
Ty Hardin, actor turned tax activist, dies at 87

 

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A tax dispute with his then-home state of Arizona led to him founding a group later known as the Arizona Patriots, which began as a tax protest organization but was later infiltrated by antisemites, Laroucheans and other assorted radicals, as well as FBI undercover agents.


No need to mention FBI agents but once. They were there spying on each other.

There was a VERY good reason people in the south in the early 60's were fond of saying "If you need to speak to a FBI agent quickly,the quickest way is go to a KKK meeting".

The Kennedy Crime Family had the Feebs taking over the KKK,and were even supplying them with dynamite and ideas. Ok,so the Kluxxers of the late 50's to early 60's probably couldn't have found an idea after a week of looking,but it was the Feebs suggesting the bombings and other atrocities through their informers and undercover agents. Whole careers were made from that stuff.

Same thing with the OKC bombing. McVey and his pals practically living in a FBI dorm the whole time they were experimenting with explosions and planning the bombing,and chances are at least 50/50 that it was a undercover Feeb that whispered "bomb a federal building" into McVey's ear. Yeah,it WAS McVey's fault for listening and doing it,and the SOB only got a fraction of what he deserved to get for murdering all those innocent people,but when you go whispering suggestions in the ears of mentally damaged people,you deserve some of the blame for the things they do.



Obituary from the New York Post (http://pagesix.com/2017/08/08/ty-hardin-star-of-tv-western-bronco-dies-at-87/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Hardin)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0362249/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on August 08, 2017, 08:40:51 pm
Glenn Campbell has died.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/08/glen-campbell-dead/

I'm really bummed out about this. RIP, Rhinestone Cowboy
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: thackney on August 08, 2017, 09:10:17 pm
http://www.glencampbell.com/glentraviscampbell

It is with the heaviest of hearts that we announce the passing of our beloved husband, father, grandfather, and legendary singer and guitarist, Glen Travis Campbell, at the age of 81, following his long and courageous battle with Alzheimer's disease.

Glen is survived by his wife, Kim Campbell of Nashville, TN; their three children, Cal, Shannon and Ashley; his children from previous marriages, Debby, Kelli, Travis, Kane, and Dillon; ten grandchildren, great- and great-great-grandchildren; sisters Barbara, Sandra, and Jane; and brothers John Wallace “Shorty” and Gerald.

In lieu of flowers, donations can be made to the Glen Campbell Memorial Fund at BrightFocus Foundation through the CareLiving.org donation page.

A personal statement from Kim Campbell will follow.

The family appreciates your prayers and respect for their privacy at this time.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: thackney on August 08, 2017, 09:11:36 pm
He was a true rags to riches story, playing so many different styles of music. The 12th child and seventh son of a dirt poor sharecropper, his dad bought him a $5 guitar from Sears & Roebuck at the age of four.

His final recording won his sixth Grammy Award in 2014, "I'm Not Going to Miss You," This song is heart wrenching for me.

Glen Campbell - I'm Not Gonna Miss You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TsAh-zYFI

The video is full of scenes, of his wife and children growing up, which he acknowledges, he won't remember.

http://www.glencampbell.com/content/about

Quote
...His work during this period would have been enough to secure his place in rock history. Alongside musicians like Leon Russell and drummers Hal Blaine and Earl Palmer, he played on an astounding 586 sessions in 1963 alone. That's him creating unforgettable guitar parts on the Beach Boys' landmark Pet Sounds album, Frank Sinatra's "Strangers in the Night," the Righteous Brothers' "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" and the Monkees' "I'm a Believer," not to mention hits by Elvis Presley, Bobby Darin, Lou Rawls, Ricky Nelson, Merle Haggard and Bobby Vee. And you'll also find him among backing a who's who list of artists with the Crew as the house band on the legendary "T.A.M.I. Show."...

Hall of Fame Inductions
2005 - Country Music Hall Of Fame
2007 - Musician's Hall Of Fame

Grammy Awards
1967 - Best Country & Western Solo Vocal Performance, Male, "Gentle On My Mind"
1967 - Best Country & Western Recording, "Gentle On My Mind"
1967 - Best Vocal Performance, Male, "By The Time I Get To Phoenix"
1967 - Best Contemporary Male Solo Vocal Performance, "By The Time I Get To Phoenix"
1968 - Album of the Year, By The Time I Get To Phoenix
2000 - Grammy of Fame, Single, "Wichita Lineman"
2004 - Grammy Hall of Fame, Single, "By The Time I Get To Phoenix"
2008 - Grammy Hall of Fame, Single, "Gentle On My Mind"
2012 - Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award
2014 - Best Country Song, "I'm Not Gonna Miss You"

Academy Of Country Music
1967 - Single of the Year, "Gentle On My Mind"
1967 - Album of the Year, Gentle On My Mind
1967 - Top Male Vocalist
1968 - Album of the Year, Bobbie Gentry & Glen Campbell
1968 - Top Male Vocalist
1968 - TV Personality of the Year
1971 - TV Personality of the Year
1975 - Single of the Year, "Rhinestone Cowboy"
1975 - Song of the Year, "Rhinestone Cowboy"
1998 - Cliffie Stone Pioneer Award
2015 - Career Achievement Award

American Music Awards
1976 - Pop/Rock Single of the Year, "Rhinestone Cowboy"
1976 - Country Single of the Year, "Rhinestone Cowboy"
1977 - Country Album of the Year, Rhinestone Cowboy

Country Music Association Awards
1968 - Entertainer of the Year
1968 - Male Vocalist of the Year

GMA Dove Awards
1986 - Album By A Secular Artist, No More Night
1992 - Southern Gospel Recorded Song of the Year, "Where Shadows Never Fall"
2000 - Country Album of the Year, A Glen Campbell Christmas

Miscellaneous Awards
1974 - CMA of Great Britain's Entertainer of the Year
2008 - Q Legend Award
2012 - Country Radio Broadcasters, Inc. - Career Achievement Award
2014 - Hollywood Music In Media Awards - Lifetime Achievement Award
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Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Millee on August 08, 2017, 09:18:22 pm
He was my very first crush.  Have been a fan my entire life.  RIP, Mr. Campbell.   8888crybaby
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on August 08, 2017, 09:18:34 pm
Glenn Campbell has died.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/08/glen-campbell-dead/

I'm really bummed out about this. RIP, Rhinestone Cowboy

Sad for this to happen, knew it was coming. My wife just got pissed for me saying this, but I mentioned to her it was probably a relief for both Glen, and his family.

Neither one could have been enjoying these final times.

BEFORE GC made his chops as a C&W performer, he was a member of the wrecking crew in LA, along with Leon Russell, etc.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on August 08, 2017, 09:44:56 pm
Two great ones, that died in the last year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm3NoFsaKQ0
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: debrawiest on August 08, 2017, 09:50:16 pm
Sad news. He was a phenomenal guitarist. RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 08, 2017, 09:59:22 pm
Quite by accident my 1st Glen Campbell 45 I ever bought was "Wichita Lineman" 

I thought it was a football song.  Turns out it was a pretty good little song.  I kept it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on August 08, 2017, 10:13:24 pm
I envision Campbell in heaven making music with the angels. Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 08, 2017, 10:22:23 pm
I still think these are Glen Campbell's best . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NeHeNZkH7k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_baSK91-OB8

He was also part of this short-lived experiment, with fellow ex-Beach Boys traveler Gary Usher
and then-Beach Boy Bruce Johnston, making this striking record . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG3rS9M5lwo

RIP Mr. Campbell.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on August 08, 2017, 10:34:12 pm
Campbell was one of the greatest songwriters of any genre.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on August 08, 2017, 10:43:50 pm
I still think these are Glen Campbell's best . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NeHeNZkH7k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_baSK91-OB8

He was also part of this short-lived experiment, with fellow ex-Beach Boys traveler Gary Usher
and then-Beach Boy Bruce Johnston, making this striking record . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG3rS9M5lwo

RIP Mr. Campbell.

I think Phoenix and Whitata were written by JImmy Webb. Love that guy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 08, 2017, 10:44:44 pm
Glenn Campbell has died.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/08/glen-campbell-dead/

I'm really bummed out about this. RIP, Rhinestone Cowboy

@Freya

I am very sorry to hear that,but he has been in really bad shape the last few years,and there should be a limit to the suffering anyone has to go through.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 08, 2017, 10:45:09 pm

Session Men offline: Glen Campbell & The Wrecking Crew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9-FfwwXRDg&ab_channel=TheProductionCompanyUSA
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 08, 2017, 10:48:25 pm
Two great ones, that died in the last year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm3NoFsaKQ0

@truth_seeker

DAYUM! I had managed to forget Leon Russel had died,and now I'm bummed out again. IMHO,one of the greatest singers and songwriters ever. I am continually pissed off every time I hear some millennial dunghead credit Donnie Hathaway with "A Song for You". Leon Russel wrote and performed that song for the woman he married before Donnie Hathaway was a glean in the eye of one of his mama's customers.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 08, 2017, 10:49:49 pm
I think Phoenix and Whitata were written by JImmy Webb. Love that guy.
They were both written by Jimmy Webb. So was "Galveston," another big Campbell hit. From all accounts,
teaming Campbell with producer/arranger Al DeLory and with Webb's material kicked his career from nothing
special to never better starting in 1967-68.

I once had a promo single on Capitol. It was Al DeLory, playing piano and arranging an almost ethereal
re-cut of "Wichita Lineman." I used to like listening to that record in winter, because somehow I always
pictured the protagonist of the song out working an isolated rural line. It might have been the way
DeLory arranged the strings on both his instrumental cut and Campbell's hit, but it was a wintry feeling
that made you feel for the protagonist even if you were growing up near New York City, as I did. I used
to see the linemen working in my little suburb in winter and feel for those poor guys.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 08, 2017, 10:56:02 pm

Quote
I once had a promo single on Capitol. It was Al DeLory, playing piano and arranging an almost ethereal
re-cut of "Wichita Lineman." I used to like listening to that record in winter, because somehow I always
pictured the protagonist of the song out working an isolated rural line. It might have been the way
DeLory arranged the strings on both his instrumental cut and Campbell's hit, but it was a wintry feeling
that made you feel for the protagonist even if you were growing up near New York City, as I did
.

@EasyAce

It doesn't take much imagination for anyone who has ever driven through Kansas to imagine the nightmare it must be to be climbing poles in the winter in that part of the country. Cold,bleak,and the damn wind never stops blowing. Get out of town in low visibility like a snowstorm,and it must be like being sealed up in a fishbowl,and cut off from the rest of the world.

Whatever they get paid,it's not enough.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on August 08, 2017, 11:00:56 pm
@EasyAce

JImmy Webb wrote All I know. That song brings me to tears. It's beautiful
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 08, 2017, 11:03:58 pm
@truth_seeker

DAYUM! I had managed to forget Leon Russel had died,and now I'm bummed out again. IMHO,one of the greatest singers and songwriters ever. I am continually pissed off every time I hear some millennial dunghead credit Donnie Hathaway with "A Song for You". Leon Russel wrote and performed that song for the woman he married before Donnie Hathaway was a glean in the eye of one of his mama's customers.
Leon Russell wrote that song in 1970, a year after Donny Hathaway signed his Atlantic recording contract.
Hathaway covered "A Song for You" on his second album; it got a lot of air play on radio stations whose
forte was soul music. I missed that album when it was originally released, though I had Hathaway's first
and third (the live set) albums, but I got all five of his Atlantic albums in a small box package recently,
reissued by Rhino/Atlantic a couple of years ago. (Ray Charles eventually recorded a version of "A Song
for You" and won a Grammy for Best Male R&B Performance for his version in 1993.) It was after the last,
Extensions of a Man, that Hathaway's chronic clinical depression kicked over in earnest, eventually
leading him into his 1979 suicide.

Oy those millenials! ;)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 08, 2017, 11:04:47 pm
@EasyAce

JImmy Webb wrote All I know. That song brings me to tears. It's beautiful
@Freya
The songs we've been talking about are almost enough to forgive him for "MacArthur's Park!" ;)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 08, 2017, 11:08:06 pm
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@EasyAce

It doesn't take much imagination for anyone who has ever driven through Kansas to imagine the nightmare it must be to be climbing poles in the winter in that part of the country. Cold,bleak,and the damn wind never stops blowing. Get out of town in low visibility like a snowstorm,and it must be like being sealed up in a fishbowl,and cut off from the rest of the world.

Whatever they get paid,it's not enough.
When I was in the Air Force in Omaha, a master sergeant with a pilot's license befriended me and liked
me to join him flying every Saturday out of our base's Aero Club. We used to fly over Kansas on those
little jaunts, just relaxing, having an airborne smoke and coffee, even in winter. I'd look down at those
big snow-blanketed Kansas areas and wonder, if Omaha could get clobbered in the winter and a trip
from my apartment to the base would have been better done on a dogsled, I could only imagine what
those hearty Kansas folks thought. (On the other hand, flying over Leavenworth I had other thoughts
. . . )
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 08, 2017, 11:24:17 pm
Leon Russell wrote that song in 1970, a year after Donny Hathaway signed his Atlantic recording contract.
Hathaway covered "A Song for You" on his second album; it got a lot of air play on radio stations whose
forte was soul music. I missed that album when it was originally released, though I had Hathaway's first
and third (the live set) albums, but I got all five of his Atlantic albums in a small box package recently,
reissued by Rhino/Atlantic a couple of years ago. (Ray Charles eventually recorded a version of "A Song
for You" and won a Grammy for Best Male R&B Performance for his version in 1993.) It was after the last,
Extensions of a Man, that Hathaway's chronic clinical depression kicked over in earnest, eventually
leading him into his 1979 suicide.

Oy those millenials! ;)

@EasyAce

I stand corrected. I figured Hathaway was a puppy because everybody I saw on tv ranting about how good a songwriter he was for having written "A Song for You" were 20-something airheads,and because I had never heard of him.

People crediting him with that song still piss me off,though.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 08, 2017, 11:29:17 pm
@Freya
The songs we've been talking about are almost enough to forgive him for "MacArthur's Park!" ;)

I heard a long time ago he bet Richard Harris a Rolls-Royce that he could write a No. 1 song for him.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 08, 2017, 11:40:06 pm
@EasyAce

I stand corrected. I figured Hathaway was a puppy because everybody I saw on tv ranting about how good a songwriter he was for having written "A Song for You" were 20-something airheads,and because I had never heard of him.

People crediting him with that song still piss me off,though.
@sneakypete
It would have pissed Donny Hathaway off, too. Hathaway was meticulous about giving credit where
due with the material he played. Hathaway was a fine songwriter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Vzyz4AQek), but he'd have been
the first to make sure Leon Russell got the label credit for writing "A Song for You." It was a tragedy
that Hathaway's mental problems got in the way of his talent---he was a phenomenal arranger
and singer and had one of the jazziest sounding soul groups in the business performing with him
---because for a good while it seemed as though he would take R and B farther than anyone
artist since Ray Charles recorded for Atlantic.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 08, 2017, 11:41:36 pm
I heard a long time ago he bet Richard Harris a Rolls-Royce that he could write a No. 1 song for him.
I wonder which Rolls Royce Harris gave him . . .

(http://www.zig-d.co.uk/diecast/images/singles/e178_3r.jpg)

;)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 08, 2017, 11:42:47 pm
I wonder which Rolls Royce Harris gave him . . .

(http://www.zig-d.co.uk/diecast/images/singles/e178_3r.jpg)

;)

lol...  did it make #1...in the states anyway.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 09, 2017, 12:48:51 am
@sneakypete
Quote
It would have pissed Donny Hathaway off, too. Hathaway was meticulous about giving credit where
due with the material he played.


@EasyAce

Which is as it should be. Writing a song like "A Song for You" isn't some mindless thing like hitting a home run or scoring a touchdown. It is something pretty damn fine and unique in this world,and the people who are lucky enough to be able to do this should get the recognition they deserve.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on August 09, 2017, 01:33:24 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TsAh-zYFI&feature=share
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on August 09, 2017, 01:34:21 am
@Freya
The songs we've been talking about are almost enough to forgive him for "MacArthur's Park!" ;)
MacArthur Park...not MacArthur's Park.  Supposedly, Jimmy Webb went to Ireland to rehearse the song with Richard  Harris. No matter how many times they rehearsed it, Harris kept on saying "MacArthur's Park" instead of "MacArthur Park" which is the real name of the park.  It's also the name of the song on the record.
Webb finally gave up and allowed the song to go with Harris singing "MacArthur's Park."
By the way, it's one of my favorite songs although millions of people like you hate it...including my wife who threatens to brain me everytime I turn the volume up when it comes on the car radio.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on August 09, 2017, 01:40:47 am
MacArthur Park...not MacArthur's Park.  Supposedly, Jimmy Webb went to Ireland to rehearse the song with Richard  Harris. No matter how many times they rehearsed it, Harris kept on saying "MacArthur's Park" instead of "MacArthur Park" which is the real name of the park.  It's also the name of the song on the record.
Webb finally gave up and allowed the song to go with Harris singing "MacArthur's Park."
By the way, it's one of my favorite songs although millions of people like you hate it...including my wife who threatens to brain me everytime I turn the volume up when it comes on the car radio.

It's an incredibly complex song. Lots of chords. I'm learning how to play guitar and that's a song I don't think I'd want to tackle
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 09, 2017, 01:44:21 am
MacArthur Park...not MacArthur's Park.  Supposedly, Jimmy Webb went to Ireland to rehearse the song with Richard  Harris. No matter how many times they rehearsed it, Harris kept on saying "MacArthur's Park" instead of "MacArthur Park" which is the real name of the park.  It's also the name of the song on the record.
Webb finally gave up and allowed the song to go with Harris singing "MacArthur's Park."
By the way, it's one of my favorite songs although millions of people like you hate it...including my wife who threatens to brain me everytime I turn the volume up when it comes on the car radio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF_o7aSjl_E
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on August 09, 2017, 01:50:32 am
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73v1RqRPKGk
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on August 09, 2017, 01:55:07 am
It's an incredibly complex song. Lots of chords. I'm learning how to play guitar and that's a song I don't think I'd want to tackle
I used to have the piano sheet music. It's very fun to play, notwithstanding the fact that I really can't stand the song itself.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on August 09, 2017, 01:55:29 am
It's an incredibly complex song. Lots of chords. I'm learning how to play guitar and that's a song I don't think I'd want to tackle
I've been playing guitar for more than forty years.  The chords I see in the songbooks with the song are almost impossible. I won't even try even though I love the third ryhthmic part.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: debrawiest on August 09, 2017, 12:39:04 pm
Quite by accident my 1st Glen Campbell 45 I ever bought was "Wichita Lineman" 

I thought it was a football song.  Turns out it was a pretty good little song.  I kept it.

"And I need you more than want you.
And I want you for all time."

Haunting lyrics sung to perfection. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 09, 2017, 01:51:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TsAh-zYFI&feature=share

@mountaineer

Either I am stupid,or that is the stupidest damn song I have ever heard.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on August 09, 2017, 03:27:45 pm
Either I am stupid,or that is the stupidest damn song I have ever heard.
:shrug: Apparently it refers to his fading memory.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on August 09, 2017, 03:33:15 pm
:shrug: Apparently it refers to his fading memory.

I thought its meaning was quite clear.


And sad......
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 09, 2017, 04:46:55 pm
:shrug: Apparently it refers to his fading memory.

@mountaineer

Thanks,I didn't pick up on that,but even then it's still a stupid self-centered song that is him basically getting in his wife's face and saying she no longer matters.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 09, 2017, 04:50:58 pm
@mountaineer

Thanks,I didn't pick up on that,but even then it's still a stupid self-centered song that is him basically getting in his wife's face and saying she no longer matters.
This is what Julian Raymond, who co-wrote the song, says about its origin:

[Campbell] had a hard day of people asking him about Alzheimer's and how he felt about it. He didn't talk too
much about it, but came up to me and said, 'I don’t know what everybody's worried about. It's not like I’m going
to miss anyone, anyway.' The song by design is simple. I knew we couldn’t do something like "Wichita
Lineman" that had complicated key changes or bigger-range stuff.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 09, 2017, 05:08:34 pm
:shrug: Apparently it refers to his fading memory.

I thought its meaning was quite clear.



And sad......


The minute I saw the title and also knowing he had alzheimer's....  I knew exactlywhat he meant.  In fact it reminded me of the joke on the subject.
What's the best thing about living with alzheimer's? You get to meet new people everyday.

Any other interpretation of it is pure bunk and should be ridiculed.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 09, 2017, 05:14:54 pm
This is what Julian Raymond, who co-wrote the song, says about its origin:

[Campbell] had a hard day of people asking him about Alzheimer's and how he felt about it. He didn't talk too
much about it, but came up to me and said, 'I don’t know what everybody's worried about. It's not like I’m going
to miss anyone, anyway.' The song by design is simple. I knew we couldn’t do something like "Wichita
Lineman" that had complicated key changes or bigger-range stuff.


@EasyAce

Once again,the selfish "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!" attitude. Just because HE won't suffer doesn't mean those who love him won't suffer.

I may be/probably am wrong on this,but it is how I see it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on August 09, 2017, 05:33:44 pm
For what it's worth -- an interview of Alice Cooper regarding Glen Campbell.  Alice and Glen were good friends:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6q2hsdXenQ

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 09, 2017, 05:47:09 pm
@EasyAce

Once again,the selfish "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!" attitude. Just because HE won't suffer doesn't mean those who love him won't suffer.

I may be/probably am wrong on this,but it is how I see it.
My paternal grandmother spent the last decade of her life with Alzheimer's. (She died in 2002). Everything I saw,
everything I was told otherwise when I didn't talk to her, told me an Alzheimer's patient is trapped in a world where
he or she are both the center of that world and a lost soul in it. And they suffer accordingly, just as those who love
them suffer over it. It's not a "selfish" attitude, it's the attitude of a genuinely diseased mind robbing a person of
self and compelling that person to fight the robber, ever more futilely, even as the disease strips them of their
knowledge of those they've known and loved for decades to the point where they see even those people as perfect
strangers interfering in their lives. It's an insidious disease, for its victims and for those who love them alike.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on August 09, 2017, 05:51:24 pm
For what it's worth -- an interview of Alice Cooper regarding Glen Campbell.  Alice and Glen were good friends:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6q2hsdXenQ

Great piece. I had forgot - and Alice is right - Campbell was an insanely good guitar player. One of the best ever.

I've also come to respect Cooper and his music in later years. His songs are solid. Even the younglings like him.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 09, 2017, 05:58:46 pm
For what it's worth -- an interview of Alice Cooper regarding Glen Campbell.  Alice and Glen were good friends:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6q2hsdXenQ

I enjoyed that.

This is good too.  His last tour. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqRXOPJzgdY&ab_channel=CBSSundayMorning
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on August 09, 2017, 08:57:42 pm
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an Alzheimer's patient is trapped in a world where
he or she are both the center of that world and a lost soul in it. And they suffer accordingly, just as those who love
them suffer over it.
The sad thing is that we don't know how much - or whom - Alzheimers patients actually remember, because they can't express it. My grandmother and father had dementia (different varieties, as my grandmother died at 93 and my father at 69). Late in the process, my father remembered my mother and said, "I love you, sweetie." My grandmother spoke of things that had happened when she was a child. But the rest of us couldn't just ask what they remembered and get a coherent response. You're right, it's horrible. I feel sorry for Glen, because I know he suffered, but even more for his family.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on August 09, 2017, 09:11:08 pm
The sad thing is that we don't know how much - or whom - Alzheimers patients actually remember, because they can't express it. My grandmother and father had dementia (different varieties, as my grandmother died at 93 and my father at 69). Late in the process, my father remembered my mother and said, "I love you, sweetie." My grandmother spoke of things that had happened when she was a child. But the rest of us couldn't just ask what they remembered and get a coherent response. You're right, it's horrible. I feel sorry for Glen, because I know he suffered, but even more for his family.
I had a friend, a few years back. He had fairly rapidly advancing Alzheimer's. He was mostly a happy upbeat guy.

But I was seriously injured, arm in a sling. Twice in one hour, he slugged me in that arm.....as if the sling was not there.

I was unable at the time, to deal with it, so I let him go. He died within a few months. I still feel bad, that I didn't know how to handle it.

My mother is 92.5 and in fairly good physical health. But she is uneven, mentally. Remembers the distant past, better than yesterday. She is stuck on a few items.

For example, at a big get-together around the table, she will repetitively inform guests about me: "...you know, he is my first." As if my guests don't all know that.

She is a cable news junkie. My sister explains to her that CNN, repeats every hour or so. But the old gal insists, no it is "new."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on August 09, 2017, 11:08:17 pm

The minute I saw the title and also knowing he had alzheimer's....  I knew exactlywhat he meant.  In fact it reminded me of the joke on the subject.
What's the best thing about living with alzheimer's? You get to meet new people everyday.

Any other interpretation of it is pure bunk and should be ridiculed.

Completely agree.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on August 09, 2017, 11:10:13 pm
My paternal grandmother spent the last decade of her life with Alzheimer's. (She died in 2002). Everything I saw,
everything I was told otherwise when I didn't talk to her, told me an Alzheimer's patient is trapped in a world where
he or she are both the center of that world and a lost soul in it. And they suffer accordingly, just as those who love
them suffer over it. It's not a "selfish" attitude, it's the attitude of a genuinely diseased mind robbing a person of
self and compelling that person to fight the robber, ever more futilely, even as the disease strips them of their
knowledge of those they've known and loved for decades to the point where they see even those people as perfect
strangers interfering in their lives. It's an insidious disease, for its victims and for those who love them alike.

Thank you for that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on August 09, 2017, 11:22:49 pm
@mountaineer

Thanks,I didn't pick up on that,but even then it's still a stupid self-centered song that is him basically getting in his wife's face and saying she no longer matters.

No.  Not the point of the song at all; with Alzheimer 'victim's' they don't remember people whom they are close to ... she mattered to him and he loved her deeply; the disease caused him to forget her; her face being the last face he remembered and because he doesn't remember, he'll never know what his wife is going through as she loses him to Alzheimer's.

Very sad.  Watch the video of his last days of touring.  I've watched it twice and I cried through the whole thing.  It will make you appreciate how tremendously, incredibly talented Campbell was and even though the disease had taken hold, his music was one part of the brain that was amazingly still functioning.  From my understanding, music utilizes a different part of the brain.  For Glen Campbell, that part of the brain was so developed because of his tremendous musical talent, that it was the very last part of the brain that was consumed by Alzheimer's.

Lyrics - I'm Not Gonna Miss You

I'm still here, but yet I'm gone
I don't play guitar or sing my songs
They never defined who I am
The man that loves you 'til the end

You're the last person I will love
You're the last face I will recall
And best of all, I'm not gonna miss you
Not gonna miss you

I'm never gonna hold you like I did
Or say I love you to the kids
You're never gonna see it in my eyes
It's not gonna hurt me when you cry

I'm never gonna know what you go through
All the things I say or do
All the hurt and all the pain
One thing selfishly remains

I'm not gonna miss you
I'm not gonna miss you

www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-6Vjzq8dAk
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on August 09, 2017, 11:30:49 pm
Session Men offline: Glen Campbell & The Wrecking Crew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9-FfwwXRDg&ab_channel=TheProductionCompanyUSA

It wasn't until I had watched the "I'll Be Me" documentary that I realized he was part of the "Wrecking Crew" ... he had tremendous natural born talent; and he played many instruments.  I was very moved by the documentary and hope it is the beginning in finding a cure for Alzheimer's.  It robs so many people of their lives and affects family members so adversely, so sad.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on August 09, 2017, 11:33:21 pm
No.  Not the point of the song at all; with Alzheimer 'victim's' they don't remember people whom they are close to ...

Correct. My sister looks after our mother, 92 yrs of age, and gradually slipping away..

She said within the last year, she has trouble remembering our father, husband of 49 years and father of her five children.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on August 09, 2017, 11:34:13 pm
Two great ones, that died in the last year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm3NoFsaKQ0

I usually don't get emotional over celebrities; but Leon and Glen were absolutely amazingly talented and both are legendary.  Their stories each different, but similar in the aspect that few really know how talented they really were; being a part of the "Wrecking Crew" is a story all in it's own.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on August 09, 2017, 11:38:57 pm
Sung in 2012 -- Alzheimer's had already set in.  He's still absolutely fantastic!!!!  It was incredible that his family helped him to continue to tour ... till he just couldn't!  Love it...  Yep ... I'm emotional over this one folks!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fufM9cICV_g
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on August 09, 2017, 11:43:10 pm
Try A Little Kidness!!  Guitar pickin' at its best!!  Amazing! 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAPCYoVEjv0
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on August 09, 2017, 11:52:59 pm
Gentle On My Mind -- Last Live Performance

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgTcAZyAzX4
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on August 09, 2017, 11:58:01 pm
Glen Campbell - Adios     RIP!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzQQoUx1oOU
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on August 10, 2017, 12:05:14 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khq8YkZPP64

I prefer the original.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 10, 2017, 12:05:38 am
Y'all should start a Glen Campbell thread over in the Music forum. Post up your favorite youtube videos and such  Then you could revisit it when you need a Rhinestone Cowboy fix!
Link to forum is:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/board,96.0.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on August 10, 2017, 12:20:44 am
Glen Campbell - Amazing Grace (with bagpipes)!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUAiWDRh5tU
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: corbe on August 10, 2017, 04:07:11 am

Glen Campbell album sales soar 13,000 percent after singer's death
 Reuters
5 hrs ago


Analytics company BuzzAngle Music said Campbell's digital album sales rose more than 13,000 percent on Tuesday after news of the musician's passing at the age of 81.

Most of the sales came for Campbell's greatest hits albums, but streaming and sales of his hit songs were also up more than 6,000 percent, BuzzAngle Music reported on Wednesday.

Campbell's death in Nashville, following a nationwide farewell tour in 2012 following his Alzheimer's announcement, brought emotional tributes from country music stars and fans alike.

<..snip..>

http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/glen-campbell-album-sales-soar-13000-percent-after-singers-death/ar-AApNjfT?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp (http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/glen-campbell-album-sales-soar-13000-percent-after-singers-death/ar-AApNjfT?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: anubias on August 10, 2017, 07:25:34 pm
My personal favorite that always brings back some sweet memories.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTbTHlTmDX8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTbTHlTmDX8)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on August 11, 2017, 02:54:15 am
Glenn Campbell has died.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/08/glen-campbell-dead/

I'm really bummed out about this. RIP, Rhinestone Cowboy

I was at the vet when I read it on Drudge. When the vet and her tech came back in the room, I told them that Glen Campbell had just passed. They looked at me blankly. "Who?"

Honestly! How do you go through life and not know who Glen Campbell is? She said that they were rockers and didn't listen to country stations. I explained to her that he wasn't limited to country stations. His music was Top 40. I named some of the songs he was well known for -- "Galveston" being one of them, and told them that he was in "True Grit." No light came on for them. I really kinda thought "Galveston" would trigger something they could recognize since the vet I visited was at Animal Alliance of GALVESTON County.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on August 11, 2017, 03:24:57 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TsAh-zYFI&feature=share

It stuns me when someone criticizes this song. I've only seen a handful of negative comments about it, so I understand that most people do get it. It's such a poignant and haunting lyric about such a devastatingly cruel disease. I remember feeling conflicted when Maureen Reagan passed. I was glad that her dad didn't have to experience the pain of losing her, and yet sad that he couldn't experience the pain of losing her. That's the tragic dichotomy of Alzheimer's.

One of my BFFs takes care of elderly folks, some of whom have dementia. One of her Alzheimer's patients sadly says of herself that she's just a blank sheet of paper. I'm sure in his moments of clarity before his mind completely succumbed to the disease, Glen knew exactly what was ahead of him.   
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on August 11, 2017, 03:39:44 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5cc7xNUA2w

My favorite version of this song.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on August 11, 2017, 06:55:37 am
I was at the vet when I read it on Drudge. When the vet and her tech came back in the room, I told them that Glen Campbell had just passed. They looked at me blankly. "Who?"

Honestly! How do you go through life and not know who Glen Campbell is? She said that they were rockers and didn't listen to country stations. I explained to her that he wasn't limited to country stations. His music was Top 40. I named some of the songs he was well known for -- "Galveston" being one of them, and told them that he was in "True Grit." No light came on for them. I really kinda thought "Galveston" would trigger something they could recognize since the vet I visited was at Animal Alliance of GALVESTON County.

Netflix just put up that Alzheimer's movie about Glen Campbell so I would assume if you are of the generation who only knows bs like the kardashians, you might be  familiar with that.

Galveston was used as the closing on one of the episodes of that HBO special they did on Robert Hurst. Again, I would think people would recognize him for that.

Unfortunately I think people are indeed getting dumber and dumber, and Mike Judge was correct a decade ago with his movie. We are culturally illiterate
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on August 11, 2017, 12:42:54 pm
It stuns me when someone criticizes this song.
I hope you didn't take any of my comments as criticism of the Campbell video. As one with family members who have had dementia, I certainly wouldn't do that. It's a sad song.

Also sad is that people in Galveston could be unfamiliar with him!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on August 11, 2017, 04:11:20 pm
I was at the vet when I read it on Drudge. When the vet and her tech came back in the room, I told them that Glen Campbell had just passed. They looked at me blankly. "Who?"

Honestly! How do you go through life and not know who Glen Campbell is? She said that they were rockers and didn't listen to country stations. I explained to her that he wasn't limited to country stations. His music was Top 40. I named some of the songs he was well known for -- "Galveston" being one of them, and told them that he was in "True Grit." No light came on for them. I really kinda thought "Galveston" would trigger something they could recognize since the vet I visited was at Animal Alliance of GALVESTON County.
How old did they look?  If they were at least in their late thirties or early forties, they haven't gotten out much.
But then again I'm nearing seventy, and I'd probably wouldn't recognize many famous, young entertainers today. Never listen to any of them.
However, when I was in my teens many of the people/entertainers I liked (such as Jack Benny, Bob Hope, Red Skelton, etal) were as much as fifty years or more older than I was.  We didn't care what age they were.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on August 11, 2017, 07:31:45 pm
Unfortunately I think people are indeed getting dumber and dumber...

I agree. And isn't it ironic that that's happening in such an era as this one where people have access to more information at their fingertips than any previous generation ever has. :shrug:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: dfwgator on August 11, 2017, 07:36:08 pm
I agree. And isn't it ironic that that's happening in such an era as this one where people have access to more information at their fingertips than any previous generation ever has. :shrug:

Because people think they don't have to learn anything, because if they actually do need to know something they can just "Google" it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on August 11, 2017, 07:39:56 pm
I hope you didn't take any of my comments as criticism of the Campbell video. As one with family members who have had dementia, I certainly wouldn't do that. It's a sad song.

Also sad is that people in Galveston could be unfamiliar with him!

Not at all did I consider you to be critical of Glen's song. I had seen someone on this thread say some rather ugly things but then I considered the source.

I remember viewing the song for the first time on YouTube the night he passed. Even, on YouTube -- where people say some of the most hideous, vile things behind their masks of anonymity -- about 98% of the commenters understood the song's message. I think it's a rather remarkable song.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on August 11, 2017, 08:10:13 pm
How old did they look?  If they were at least in their late thirties or early forties, they haven't gotten out much.
But then again I'm nearing seventy, and I'd probably wouldn't recognize many famous, young entertainers today. Never listen to any of them.
However, when I was in my teens many of the people/entertainers I liked (such as Jack Benny, Bob Hope, Red Skelton, etal) were as much as fifty years or more older than I was.  We didn't care what age they were.

The vet wasn't a spring chicken but wasn't as old as I am (this year I reached that 7th decade that you're nearing). The tech was quite young. She did know of Glen Campbell but only because of her parents. Both drew a blank when I sang a few notes of "Galveston." (Yes, I sang in the exam room. I'm eccentric that way.)

Like you, I don't have much knowledge of today's singers, except for the few whose work is present in many media venues. Before the groping trial, I knew who Taylor Swift was. The only song I know of hers is from that viral video of the policeman lip syncing it in his car, which I thought was just a hoot. Reminded me of myself and some of my own "performances" behind the wheel. Also, like you, I was well acquainted with the names of the entertainers you mentioned.

Policeman performing Taylor Swift song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XFBUM8dMqw
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: berdie on August 12, 2017, 05:17:10 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TsAh-zYFI&feature=share

The first time I heard that song I broke down in tears. He was still at the point that he knew what was happening @mountaineer
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: berdie on August 12, 2017, 05:29:38 am
Sung in 2012 -- Alzheimer's had already set in.  He's still absolutely fantastic!!!!  It was incredible that his family helped him to continue to tour ... till he just couldn't!  Love it...  Yep ... I'm emotional over this one folks!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fufM9cICV_g

I saw a concert on tv he did with his family as back up. His son was feeding him the lyrics. But Glenn, ever the performer, kept a smile on his face and his voice sounded true.

I'm emotional about it as well.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on August 12, 2017, 01:54:37 pm
Quote
World's oldest man, Auschwitz survivor Yisrael Kristal dies
    11 August 2017

The world's oldest man - the only member of his immediate family to survive the Holocaust - has died at the age of 113.

Polish-born Yisrael Kristal died on Friday, a month before he was due to turn 114, Israeli media reported.

Mr Kristal, who lived in Haifa, Israel, hit the headlines last year after deciding to celebrate his bar mitzvah a century late.

The original celebration had not taken place because World War One broke out.

Continued: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40904907
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 13, 2017, 03:14:07 am

The world's oldest man - the only member of his immediate family to survive the Holocaust - has died at the age of 113.

Polish-born Yisrael Kristal died on Friday, a month before he was due to turn 114, Israeli media reported.

Mr Kristal, who lived in Haifa, Israel, hit the headlines last year after deciding to celebrate his bar mitzvah a century late.

The original celebration had not taken place because World War One broke out.

Continued: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40904907


@TomSea

He WAS the Worlds Oldest Man yesterday.

Today it's someone else.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on August 13, 2017, 02:02:19 pm
Blanche Blackwell, mistress and muse of James Bond's creator, dies at 104
By Matt Schudel The Washington Post 17 hrs ago

Fascinating... http://www.roanoke.com/news/blanche-blackwell-mistress-and-muse-of-james-bond-s-creator/article_92d89725-1768-5ea9-8945-6c2381bb0a19.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 13, 2017, 03:16:29 pm
Blanche Blackwell, mistress and muse of James Bond's creator, dies at 104
By Matt Schudel The Washington Post 17 hrs ago

Fascinating... http://www.roanoke.com/news/blanche-blackwell-mistress-and-muse-of-james-bond-s-creator/article_92d89725-1768-5ea9-8945-6c2381bb0a19.html

@Suppressed

YIKES! I just did an image search of her to see what this great beauty looked like,and now I suspect that Flemming was either into cross-dressers,or maybe even male horses. She definitely had one of those long "horse faces" the English are sometimes known for.

It is more likely he was attracted to her for reasons other than her physical charms,though. They were already mature adults when they met,so it's even probable.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on August 13, 2017, 04:03:25 pm
@Suppressed

YIKES! I just did an image search of her to see what this great beauty looked like,and now I suspect that Flemming was either into cross-dressers,or maybe even male horses. She definitely had one of those long "horse faces" the English are sometimes known for.

It is more likely he was attracted to her for reasons other than her physical charms,though. They were already mature adults when they met,so it's even probable.

The first thing he asked her was whether she was a lesbian!  :laugh:

But she was very athletic, which he liked...a bit masculine. 
(http://www.matthewparker.co.uk/2014/image/IF-and-BB-on-beach.jpg) (http://spartacus-educational.com/WNblackwell.jpg)

Yes, there's more than looks to grab the heart!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on August 13, 2017, 05:08:43 pm
The first thing he asked her was whether she was a lesbian!  :laugh:

But she was very athletic, which he liked...a bit masculine. 
(http://www.matthewparker.co.uk/2014/image/IF-and-BB-on-beach.jpg) (http://spartacus-educational.com/WNblackwell.jpg)

Yes, there's more than looks to grab the heart!

Yes, indeed.  Just at Mr. Fleming.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 13, 2017, 06:42:37 pm
Yes, indeed.  Just at Mr. Fleming.

Not exactly a fine physical specimen was he!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EC on August 13, 2017, 07:09:37 pm
Not exactly a fine physical specimen was he!

Knew a hundred different ways to kill you with his bare hands .... he didn't need to look imposing.  ^-^
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 13, 2017, 08:08:15 pm
Knew a hundred different ways to kill you with his bare hands .... he didn't need to look imposing.  ^-^
Funny thing about spies. The best ones are the people you think were there, but can't describe, offhand. They are so inconspicuous as to stand out if you are really paying attention.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 13, 2017, 08:19:35 pm
Knew a hundred different ways to kill you with his bare hands .... he didn't need to look imposing.  ^-^

I suspect him "knowing" in his flabby years were a long distant memory of his doing years.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 13, 2017, 08:22:29 pm
I suspect him "knowing" in his flabby years were a long distant memory of his doing years.
How many ways would he need? You get just as dead if a flabby guy kills you as you do if the killer is ready for the Mr. Universe competition.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on August 13, 2017, 08:28:21 pm
How many ways would he need? You get just as dead if a flabby guy kills you as you do if the killer is ready for the Mr. Universe competition.

This thread took an odd turn.  Sometimes it's hard to see where that turn happened.  Not so in this case.

 :silly:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 13, 2017, 08:30:08 pm
How many ways would he need? You get just as dead if a flabby guy kills you as you do if the killer is ready for the Mr. Universe competition.

I suspect Stealth helps.   Hard to kill you if you can out run a fat old fart with a cigarette holder who looks like Truman Capote.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 13, 2017, 08:34:52 pm
I suspect Stealth helps.   Hard to kill you if you can out run a fat old fart with a cigarette holder who looks like Truman Capote.
Stealth. If he's just standing there, minding his own business and you don't suspect the flabby guy...game over.
Otherwise, that speeding bullet thing comes to mind...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 13, 2017, 08:42:39 pm
Stealth. If he's just standing there, minding his own business and you don't suspect the flabby guy...game over.
Otherwise, that speeding bullet thing comes to mind...

Stop.

This all 
This thread took an odd turn.  Sometimes it's hard to see where that turn happened.  Not so in this case.

 :silly:

Her fault!   I was just trying to show my feminine side and agree he was no Catch either.....


Besides...Chuck Norris could kick his ass.  Damn you @Sanguine
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on August 13, 2017, 08:44:26 pm
Stop.

This all 
Her fault!   I was just trying to show my feminine side and agree he was no Catch either.....


Besides...Chuck Norris could kick his ass.  Damn you @Sanguine

I appreciate the help, but some things you might want to keep to yourself....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 13, 2017, 10:36:56 pm
I appreciate the help, but some things you might want to keep to yourself....

You are on your own sister. :smokin:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on August 14, 2017, 02:56:27 pm
Joseph Bologna, 'My Favorite Year' Actor and Oscar-Nominated Screenwriter, Dies at 82

Quote
Joseph Bologna, an actor, playwright and screenwriter who was so memorable as the egotistical King Kaiser in the 1982 comedy classic My Favorite Year, has died. He was 82.

Bologna died Sunday morning at City of Hope hospital in Duarte, Calif. He was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer three years ago, said his wife of 52 years, actress and screenwriter Renee Taylor.

Bologna received an Oscar nomination for adapted screenplay, shared with his wife and David Zelag Goodman, for his work on Lovers and Other Strangers (1970). The couple had first written it for Broadway in a 1968 production directed by Charles Grodin.
More (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/joe-bologna-dead-my-favorite-year-actor-was-82-1029119)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Bologna)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004767/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on August 14, 2017, 04:25:51 pm
Lovers and Other Strangers is among my favorite movies.  Being part Italian myself, I got a kick out of the Italian parents, particularly the scenes where they each are in the confessional.  Brilliant. 

Rest in peace, Mr. Bologna.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on August 17, 2017, 01:44:49 am
Tom Hawkins, who played for Lakers, worked for Dodgers, passes at 80

Staff and news service reports
Orange County Register
August 16, 2017

Quote
Tom Hawkins, who played six seasons for the Lakers, worked as a broadcaster in L.A. and later served as a Dodgers executive, passed away at his home in Malibu on Wednesday. He was 80.

A 6-foot-5 forward, Hawkins starred at Chicago’s Parker (now Robeson) High School before playing at Notre Dame, where he became the first African-American student-athlete to earn All-America honors for the Fighting Irish.

Hawkins was the first Irish player to average in double figures for scoring and rebounding during each of his three seasons (freshmen were ineligible during his collegiate career). His 1,318 career rebounds remains the oldest standing program record.

Hawkins graduated with a sociology degree and was selected by the then-Minneapolis Lakers with the third pick in the first round of the 1959 NBA draft. “The Hawk” enjoyed a productive 10-year career in the league, and played one season in Minnesota, before moving with the team to Los Angeles.
More (http://www.ocregister.com/2017/08/16/tom-hawkins-who-played-for-lakers-worked-for-dodgers-passes-at-80/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hawkins_(basketball))

NBA career stats (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hawkito01.html)

(https://i.imgur.com/n2TX2ha.jpg)


Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on August 19, 2017, 04:39:00 pm
Bruce Forsyth, transcontinental MC, dies at 89

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Bruce_Forsyth1.jpg)

With a career spanning 75 years, Forsyth is recognized in Guinness World Records as having the longest career of any entertainer, which is probably disputable. While he had some brief work in the United States (perhaps most recognizably as the host of the 1986 game show Hot Streak!, which he took over from a blacklisted Gene Rayburn), Forsyth was far better known in his native Britain, where he hosted a number of game shows (including British versions of Card Sharks and The Price Is Right) and the dancing contest Strictly Come Dancing, the forerunner of America's Dancing with the Stars.

Forsyth died of complications due to old age on August 18.

Death notice from the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4077192/Sir-Bruce-Forsyth-dies.html)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0287028/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Forsyth)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 19, 2017, 04:52:47 pm
Bruce Forsyth, transcontinental MC, dies at 89

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Bruce_Forsyth1.jpg)

With a career spanning 75 years, Forsyth is recognized in Guinness World Records as having the longest career of any entertainer, which is probably disputable. While he had some brief work in the United States (perhaps most recognizably as the host of the 1986 game show Hot Streak!, which he took over from a blacklisted Gene Rayburn), Forsyth was far better known in his native Britain, where he hosted a number of game shows (including British versions of Card Sharks and The Price Is Right) and the dancing contest Strictly Come Dancing, the forerunner of America's Dancing with the Stars.

Forsyth died of complications due to old age on August 18.

Death notice from the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4077192/Sir-Bruce-Forsyth-dies.html)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0287028/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Forsyth)

I just read a couple of bios of Gene Rayburn, and I couldn't find anything about his being Blacklisted (he worked until shortly before his death).  What was that about?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on August 19, 2017, 05:40:45 pm
I just read a couple of bios of Gene Rayburn, and I couldn't find anything about his being Blacklisted (he worked until shortly before his death).  What was that about?
The story goes that around 1985, he'd just been fired from a little game show called Break the Bank in a huge fight with the producers, and was not exactly thrilled with another game show he'd done a year before that. About the same time, and I've never been able to confirm this, but a TV reporter allegedly leaked his age at the time (he was in his late 60s, something he didn't like admitting because he was afraid it would cost him work).

Between the behind-the-scenes fighting and what Rayburn blamed on age discrimination, he would only host a TV show one more time in his lifetime (an inconsequential cable game known as The Movie Masters that lasted only a few weeks), even though he was certainly interested in doing so. Rayburn was a liberal to be sure but the blacklisting wasn't because of Communism.

Thus, when Hot Streak went into production in early 1986, Reg Grundy (Australian producer) instead decided to hire Bruce Forsyth in what would be his first and only U.S. hosting gig. Grundy would continue to work with Forsyth on UK game shows.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 19, 2017, 05:51:52 pm
The story goes that around 1985, he'd just been fired from a little game show called Break the Bank in a huge fight with the producers, and was not exactly thrilled with another game show he'd done a year before that. About the same time, and I've never been able to confirm this, but a TV reporter allegedly leaked his age at the time (he was in his late 60s, something he didn't like admitting because he was afraid it would cost him work).

Between the behind-the-scenes fighting and what Rayburn blamed on age discrimination, he would only host a TV show one more time in his lifetime (an inconsequential cable game known as The Movie Masters that lasted only a few weeks), even though he was certainly interested in doing so. Rayburn was a liberal to be sure but the blacklisting wasn't because of Communism.

Yes, there were complaints about his personality, and it probably cost him some gigs.  He was not the out-ward friendly guy people thought he was.   Apparently he had a legendary feud going with Richard Dawson, but this is all normal stuff in that business.  And, he did work until shortly before his death, I guess he was considered pretty young when he died.  His last work wasn't game shows, it was walk-ons like Love boat and the like.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 19, 2017, 07:03:04 pm
Half forgotten fact about Gene Rayburn---he was the original second banana (and announcer, for Steve Allen) on The Tonight Show.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on August 19, 2017, 07:05:30 pm
Half forgotten fact about Gene Rayburn---he was the original second banana (and announcer, for Steve Allen) on The Tonight Show.

Occasionally watch Buzz TV which has old Match Game reruns.

amazing how much has changed in over 40 years.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 19, 2017, 07:31:33 pm
Occasionally watch Buzz TV which has old Match Game reruns.

amazing how much has changed in over 40 years.

It amazed me that he and Dawson really disliked each other.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 19, 2017, 08:05:27 pm
It amazed me that he and Dawson really disliked each other.
@Cyber Liberty
It wasn't really between Rayburn and Dawson . . . it was between Dawson and The Match Game's production
staff, after Mark Goodson (who produced The Match Game, then still with his longtime partner Bill Todman)
tapped Dawson to host the newly-created Family Feud in 1976, and that show became a runaway hit. The problem:
Dawson was also under contract as a Match Game panelist for both its daytime and nighttime versions, and
he was feeling burned out enough to ask to be let out of his Match Game contract. When his request was
refused, Dawson rebelled by becoming sullen on set, refusing to flirt or joke with the show's contestants, and
refusing to speak to the show's co-panelists, until his Match Game contract expired in 1978. Gene Rayburn
may have been dismayed by Dawson's act, but Dawson's real feud, if you will, was with the show's production
staff and with Goodson-Todman, though Family Feud's success didn't exactly mean Dawson and Goodson
would be mortal enemies, either.

The Goodson-Todman partnership ended only when Bill Todman succumbed to heart disease in 1979. I once saw
a funny story about Todman from the network radio years, when Goodson-Todman first teamed up to produce
game shows on radio. Todman was carrying an armload of small appliances up into the CBS building in New
York, to be prizes on a couple of the early Goodson-Todman radio games, when he stumbled on one step and the
appliances crashed to the steps below. CBS's Goodman Ace---a legend of radio comedy as a writer (and, on his
own Easy Aces, co-performer with wife Jane), then running a CBS workshop for comedy writing (Neil Simon
was one of his students), and eventually to become Perry Como's head writer on television (he once cracked it
was difficult to put any humour into "We now take you to exotic Brazil")---happened to see the accident and
hollered out, "Hey, Todman, you dropped your script!"
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 19, 2017, 08:09:30 pm
@Cyber Liberty
It wasn't really between Rayburn and Dawson . . . it was between Dawson and The Match Game's production
staff, after Mark Goodson (who produced The Match Game, then still with his longtime partner Bill Todman)
tapped Dawson to host the newly-created Family Feud in 1976, and that show became a runaway hit. The problem:
Dawson was also under contract as a Match Game panelist for both its daytime and nighttime versions, and
he was feeling burned out enough to ask to be let out of his Match Game contract. When his request was
refused, Dawson rebelled by becoming sullen on set, refusing to flirt or joke with the show's contestants, and
refusing to speak to the show's co-panelists, until his Match Game contract expired in 1978. Gene Rayburn
may have been dismayed by Dawson's act, but Dawson's real feud, if you will, was with the show's production
staff and with Goodson-Todman, though Family Feud's success didn't exactly mean Dawson and Goodson
would be mortal enemies, either.

The Goodson-Todman partnership ended only when Bill Todman succumbed to heart disease in 1979. I once saw
a funny story about Todman from the network radio years, when Goodson-Todman first teamed up to produce
game shows on radio. Todman was carrying an armload of small appliances up into the CBS building in New
York, to be prizes on a couple of the early Goodson-Todman radio games, when he stumbled on one step and the
appliances crashed to the steps below. CBS's Goodman Ace---a legend of radio comedy as a writer (and, on his
own Easy Aces, co-performer with wife Jane), then running a CBS workshop for comedy writing (Neil Simon
was one of his students), and eventually to become Perry Como's head writer on television (he once cracked it
was difficult to put any humour into "We now take you to exotic Brazil")---happened to see the accident and
hollered out, "Hey, Todman, you dropped your script!"

Interesting insight.  From the bios I read, Rayburn was a bit sullen himself.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 19, 2017, 08:20:20 pm
Interesting insight.  From the bios I read, Rayburn was a bit sullen himself.
He had his moments, but I don't remember him ever going as far as Richard Dawson did. Most
of my knowledge of Gene Rayburn is that, when he wasn't under any kind of professional
pressure, he was a very nice man who enjoyed when fans recognised him and did impressions
of his classic facial gestures.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 19, 2017, 08:31:23 pm
He had his moments, but I don't remember him ever going as far as Richard Dawson did. Most
of my knowledge of Gene Rayburn is that, when he wasn't under any kind of professional
pressure, he was a very nice man who enjoyed when fans recognised him and did impressions
of his classic facial gestures.

There was a difference.  From what you described, Dawson was doing it to effect some change in the behavior of others.  I was never a fan of emotional manipulation.  I suspected, from what I read about Rayburn, he was just a "loner" type of person, not much unlike myself.

As an aside, if Dawson really was handling three separate game shows, he probably WAS suffering burn-out.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on August 20, 2017, 01:12:43 am
Well, this conversation is going in odd places. Just to be clear: Rayburn died back in 1999.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on August 20, 2017, 01:27:43 am
Well, this conversation is going in odd places. Just to be clear: Rayburn died back in 1999.

Richard Dawson died in 2012.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 20, 2017, 01:41:09 am
I die every night.  Fred.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on August 20, 2017, 02:27:48 pm
Dick Gregory, 84, Dies; Found Humor in the Civil Rights Struggle

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Dick Gregory, the pioneering black satirist who transformed cool humor into a barbed force for civil rights in the 1960s, then veered from his craft for a life devoted to protest and fasting in the name of assorted social causes, health regimens and conspiracy theories, died Saturday in Washington. He was 84.

Mr. Gregory’s son, Christian Gregory, who announced his death on social media, said more details would be released in the coming days. Mr. Gregory had been admitted to a hospital on Aug. 12, his son said in an earlier Facebook post.

More (https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/19/arts/dick-gregory-dies-at-84.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Gregory)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on August 20, 2017, 03:00:13 pm
I remember when Gregory was a stand-up comedian and he was quite good.  Then he went all militant and wasn't so funny anymore.  Gregory became a major PITA.   He hated white people, many of whom helped him become successful as a comedian.

Oh well.  That's the past and no use dwelling on it.  Rest in peace, Mr. Gregory.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 20, 2017, 03:20:17 pm
He also saved the lives of people who were extremely obese.  There's that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 20, 2017, 03:52:03 pm
When I die, I'm leaving my body to science fiction.

I die every night.  Fred.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mystery-ak on August 20, 2017, 06:08:31 pm
Jerry Lewis, Nonpareil Genius of Comedy, Dies at 91


Jerry Lewis, Nonpareil Genius of Comedy, Dies at 91

10:43 AM PDT 8/20/2017 by Duane Byrge , Mike Barnes

    He dominated show business with Dean Martin in the 1950s, starred in 'The Bellboy' and 'The Nutty Professor,' hosted the Labor Day telethon for decades and received the Hersholt award.

Jerry Lewis, whose irrepressible zaniness and frantic creativity vaulted him to stardom as a comic movie star who wielded unparalleled green-light power at Paramount in the 1960s, died Sunday. He was 91.

Lewis, who teamed with Dean Martin in the 1950s as one of the most successful tandems in the history of show business, died at 9:15 a.m. at his home in Las Vegas, John Katsilometes of the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported, citing a statement from Lewis' family.

more
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jerry-lewis-dead-nutty-professor-bellboy-star-was-91-721408
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mystery-ak on August 20, 2017, 06:08:59 pm
Thanks for all the laughs Jerry...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on August 20, 2017, 06:19:10 pm
Jerry Lewis was a great comedian, God Bless and Rest In Peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 20, 2017, 06:23:50 pm
Jerry Lewis was a great comedian, God Bless and Rest In Peace.

Jerry Lewis, the brash slapstick comic who teamed with Dean Martin in the 1950s and later starred in “The Nutty Professor” and “The Bellboy” before launching the Muscular Dystrophy telethon, has died in Las Vegas. He was 91.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal columnist John Katsilometes reported that he died at his home at 9:15 a.m. and his agent confirmed the news.

Over the past 10 years of his life, the cranky icon’s reputation soured as he was forced to apologize for making a gay slur on camera during the 2007 telethon, continued to make racist and misogynistic jokes into his ’90s, and didn’t hesitate to share his right-wing political views.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/jerry-lewis-dies-dead-nutty-professor-1202533899/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Oceander on August 20, 2017, 06:27:32 pm
Godspeed
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on August 20, 2017, 06:29:45 pm
Jerry Lewis, Nonpareil Genius of Comedy, Dies at 91


Jerry Lewis, Nonpareil Genius of Comedy, Dies at 91

10:43 AM PDT 8/20/2017 by Duane Byrge , Mike Barnes

    He dominated show business with Dean Martin in the 1950s, starred in 'The Bellboy' and 'The Nutty Professor,' hosted the Labor Day telethon for decades and received the Hersholt award.

Jerry Lewis, whose irrepressible zaniness and frantic creativity vaulted him to stardom as a comic movie star who wielded unparalleled green-light power at Paramount in the 1960s, died Sunday. He was 91.

Lewis, who teamed with Dean Martin in the 1950s as one of the most successful tandems in the history of show business, died at 9:15 a.m. at his home in Las Vegas, John Katsilometes of the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported, citing a statement from Lewis' family.

more
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jerry-lewis-dead-nutty-professor-bellboy-star-was-91-721408
Quote
Thanks for the laughs Jerry.  RIP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neEe1itDC_k
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 20, 2017, 07:07:32 pm
Jerry Lewis, Nonpareil Genius of Comedy, Dies at 91


Jerry Lewis, Nonpareil Genius of Comedy, Dies at 91

10:43 AM PDT 8/20/2017 by Duane Byrge , Mike Barnes


more
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jerry-lewis-dead-nutty-professor-bellboy-star-was-91-721408

Always wondered what the deal was with his departure from the MDA thons.
http://entertainment.time.com/2012/08/16/why-did-jerry-lewis-leave-the-telethon/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on August 20, 2017, 07:18:10 pm
Jerry Lewis was a great comedian, God Bless and Rest In Peace.

I always thought he was funny and enjoyed his movies. RIP and thank you for the laughs.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on August 20, 2017, 07:46:39 pm
Always wondered what the deal was with his departure from the MDA thons.
http://entertainment.time.com/2012/08/16/why-did-jerry-lewis-leave-the-telethon/

I've always suspected it had to do with an 'insensitive, anti-gay' joke he made prior to his departure.

Jerry was too old school to get with the program on what appropriately could be joked about these days and whats too sacred to mention. God bless him.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on August 20, 2017, 07:48:25 pm
As a kid, I was crazy about Jerry Lewis. At some point in my adulthood, I began to understand that he had a very mean side. Still, I respect him for all he did for the MDA. May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: endicom on August 20, 2017, 07:49:12 pm
New York Times
Dave Kehr
Aug. 20, 2017

Jerry Lewis, the comedian and filmmaker who was adored by many, disdained by others, but unquestionably a defining figure of American entertainment in the 20th century, died on Sunday morning at his home in Las Vegas. He was 91.

His death was confirmed by his publicist, Candi Cazau.

Mr. Lewis knew success in movies, on television, in nightclubs, on the Broadway stage and in the university lecture hall. His career had its ups and downs, but when it was at its zenith there were few stars any bigger. And he got there remarkably quickly.

More... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/20/movies/jerry-lewis-dead-celebrated-comedian-and-filmmaker.html?smtyp=cur
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 20, 2017, 07:51:38 pm
I always thought he was funny and enjoyed his movies. RIP and thank you for the laughs.
@Freya
He and Dean Martin weren't half bad on radio, either . . .

The Martin & Lewis Show (http://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/M%20Series/Martin%20And%20Lewis/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on August 20, 2017, 07:51:58 pm
As a kid, I was crazy about Jerry Lewis. At some point in my adulthood, I began to understand that he had a very mean side. Still, I respect him for all he did for the MDA. May he rest in peace.

A few years back I stayed at the Fountainblue in Miami Beach. While there Scarface & Goldfinger never crossed my mind, all I could think about were scenes from The Bellboy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 20, 2017, 08:15:33 pm
"Disdained by others " in the opening sentance.  **nononono*  This is the 4th story I read in the last 30 min on his passing and all 4 had to include something like this in the opening. Sad way to remember such a great comedian who many of us grew up with on Saturday afternoon movies.

Yes he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way including Dean Martin but because he was such a demanding take-charge figure off camera. Be that as it may, I'm glad he was such amlarge part of my growing up.

RIP Jerry.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: endicom on August 20, 2017, 09:29:36 pm
"Disdained by others " in the opening sentance.  **nononono*  This is the 4th story I read in the last 30 min on his passing and all 4 had to include something like this in the opening.


It would have been better at half the length.

RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on August 21, 2017, 12:44:12 am
R.I.P. Mr. Lewis and thanks for all the laughs and your generosity and devotion in both time and talent to the MDA. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Restored on August 21, 2017, 12:52:24 am
Lewis could be an azzhole but his closest friends believe it was an act because he was SO good at being it. It wasn't small that many people wouldn't recognize it. It wasn't large so that people knew it was a gimmick. It was just the right size to make people believe it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 21, 2017, 01:15:45 am
R.I.P. Mr. Lewis and thanks for all the laughs and your generosity and devotion in both time and talent to the MDA.
^^^^ This!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 21, 2017, 10:20:43 am
R.I.P. Mr. Lewis and thanks for all the laughs and your generosity and devotion in both time and talent to the MDA.

@libertybele

I guess I am the only one here that always considered him to be whiny,irritating,male bitch? His voice was like fingernails on a blackboard to me.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on August 21, 2017, 10:52:14 am
@libertybele

I guess I am the only one here that always considered him to be whiny,irritating,male bitch? His voice was like fingernails on a blackboard to me.

Wasn't a huge fan myself, but I respected him for his work for the MDA.  Just too bad political correctness ultimately destroyed his efforts for that organization. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 21, 2017, 01:49:36 pm
Wasn't a huge fan myself, but I respected him for his work for the MDA.  Just too bad political correctness ultimately destroyed his efforts for that organization.

@Applewood

I admit to not watching those telathons since becoming old enough to escape the house when they were on,but how and why did they become PC?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 21, 2017, 02:12:09 pm
@Applewood

I admit to not watching those telathons since becoming old enough to escape the house when they were on,but how and why did they become PC?

I didn't like them either, but I can think of about 2.5 Billion reasons why they were important.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/21/jerry-lewis-telethons-raised-billions-for-muscular-dystrophy-many-cheered-when-he-went-off-the-air/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 21, 2017, 02:15:58 pm
@Applewood

I admit to not watching those telathons since becoming old enough to escape the house when they were on,but how and why did they become PC?
@sneakypete
The telethons didn't really become PC (they had as many critics as admirers, with the critics thinking Lewis merely
exploited those for whom he raised those billions and barely understood the people for whom he was doing it and
his admirers reminding critics that if not him, who?), but some remarks Lewis made ticked off the MDA enough to
maneuver him away from the telethon a few years ago, though the organisation didn't distance themselves from
him entirely.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 21, 2017, 02:52:31 pm
@sneakypete
The telethons didn't really become PC (they had as many critics as admirers, with the critics thinking Lewis merely
exploited those for whom he raised those billions and barely understood the people for whom he was doing it and
his admirers reminding critics that if not him, who?), but some remarks Lewis made ticked off the MDA enough to
maneuver him away from the telethon a few years ago, though the organisation didn't distance themselves from
him entirely.

@EasyAce

Thanks,but let's face it,Lewis was a geezer a long time before a few years ago,and chances are he didn't really realize what he was saying. He had been dealing with the public and PR for so many decades you know he knew better on his good days.  You can dismiss what old people say if you just don't agree with them as well as "diss" them,but you pretty much have to cut senile people a little slack. We are all going to get "there" if we live long enough.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 21, 2017, 04:26:06 pm
@EasyAce

Thanks,but let's face it,Lewis was a geezer a long time before a few years ago,and chances are he didn't really realize what he was saying. He had been dealing with the public and PR for so many decades you know he knew better on his good days.  You can dismiss what old people say if you just don't agree with them as well as "diss" them,but you pretty much have to cut senile people a little slack. We are all going to get "there" if we live long enough.
Part of that is the whole assemblage of moving target social expectations placed on people. My grandfather would have been killed today for some of the common references of his day, and those were not derogatory, only descriptive. When culture decides that what was okay yesterday is a hanging offense tomorrow, it gets tough to keep up, even for a relative youngster.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on August 21, 2017, 05:18:18 pm
@EasyAce

Thanks,but let's face it,Lewis was a geezer a long time before a few years ago,and chances are he didn't really realize what he was saying. He had been dealing with the public and PR for so many decades you know he knew better on his good days.  You can dismiss what old people say if you just don't agree with them as well as "diss" them,but you pretty much have to cut senile people a little slack. We are all going to get "there" if we live long enough.
I suspect a lot of it was that, by somewhere as the 60s turned to the 70s Lewis had been passed by
in terms of comedy, with many of the passers having been influenced directly by his old improvisational
style, in hand with an apparent stubborn inability to move his comedy forward in places other than
the annual telethons.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 21, 2017, 06:20:54 pm
Part of that is the whole assemblage of moving target social expectations placed on people. My grandfather would have been killed today for some of the common references of his day, and those were not derogatory, only descriptive. When culture decides that what was okay yesterday is a hanging offense tomorrow, it gets tough to keep up, even for a relative youngster.
@Smokin Joe

True. I hadn't even thought about that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on August 21, 2017, 06:53:48 pm
Science fiction author Brian Aldiss dies aged 92

Quote
Brian Aldiss, the “grand old man” of science fiction whose writing has shaped the genre since he was first published in the 1950s, has died at the age of 92.

Aldiss’s agent, Curtis Brown, and his son, Tim Aldiss, have announced that the author, artist, poet and memoirist died at home in Oxford in the early hours of 19 August. “Brian had celebrated his birthday with close friends and family and spoken to many close to him,” wrote Tim on Twitter as he announced the death of “our beloved father and grandfather”.

Aldiss was the author of science fiction classics including Non-Stop, Hothouse and Greybeard, as well as the Helliconia trilogy, which his agent said bridged “the gap between classic science fiction and contemporary literature”. His numerous short stories include Super-Toys Last All Summer Long, which was adapted into the Steven Spielberg film AI ...

More (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/aug/21/science-fiction-author-brian-aldiss-dies-aged-92)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Aldiss)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on August 21, 2017, 09:42:35 pm
@EasyAce

Thanks,but let's face it,Lewis was a geezer a long time before a few years ago,and chances are he didn't really realize what he was saying. He had been dealing with the public and PR for so many decades you know he knew better on his good days.  You can dismiss what old people say if you just don't agree with them as well as "diss" them,but you pretty much have to cut senile people a little slack. We are all going to get "there" if we live long enough.
In the not too distant future, if certain people have their way, it will be against the law to make fun of anybody who is not a white, Christian male.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on August 21, 2017, 10:43:27 pm
In the not too distant future, if certain people have their way, it will be against the law to make fun of anybody who is not a white, Christian male.

@goatprairie

Huh? I thought that was already a federal law?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on August 21, 2017, 11:45:03 pm
In the not too distant future, if certain people have their way, it will be against the law to make fun of anybody who is not a white, Christian male.

Naw, blonds are fair game too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 21, 2017, 11:46:35 pm
Naw, blonds are fair game too.

Swell.  I'm male, white, straight AND blond.  :nometalk:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on August 21, 2017, 11:52:41 pm
Swell.  I'm male, white, straight AND blond.  :nometalk:

You're blonde.  Blond is feminine.   Or, something.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 22, 2017, 12:04:45 am
You're blonde.  Blond is feminine.   Or, something.

Double swell.  Do you remember what Clint Eastwood was called in "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly?"  "Blondie."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on August 22, 2017, 12:08:15 am
Double swell.  Do you remember what Clint Eastwood was called in "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly?"  "Blondie."

I never saw that movie.  I'm familiar with it, just never actually watched it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on August 22, 2017, 12:26:11 am
I have no future, either, @Cyber Liberty.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 22, 2017, 12:46:32 am
I was going to go back and quote a few posts made before this.
But I didn't want to waste my time.... and your time and energy.  That being said, I did want to say this on the subject. Only my hairdresser knows for sure.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 22, 2017, 12:47:39 am
I have no future, either, @Cyber Liberty.
All you need is a red shirt...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/Redshirt_characters_from_Star_Trek.jpg/250px-Redshirt_characters_from_Star_Trek.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on August 22, 2017, 12:48:55 am
All you need is a red shirt...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/Redshirt_characters_from_Star_Trek.jpg/250px-Redshirt_characters_from_Star_Trek.jpg)

He has a red S.  The shirt does not matter.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 22, 2017, 01:06:00 am
He has a red S.  The shirt does not matter.
I ain't touching that.  **nononono*
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on August 22, 2017, 01:39:15 am
GARBANZO!!!!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Millee on August 24, 2017, 07:21:00 pm
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/comic-actor-jay-thomas-dead-69-article-1.3439508

 “Ray Donovan” actor Jay Thomas has lost his battle with cancer. He was 69.

The sad news comes from his agent and longtime friend Don Buchwald.

“Jay was one of a kind, never at a loss for words and filled with so much fun and wonderfully whacky thoughts and behavior,” wrote Buchwald, who repped Thomas for 35 years. Thomas’ wife Sally and his sons Sam, Max and J.T. were by his side when he passed.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on August 24, 2017, 09:11:22 pm
Rest in peace, Mr. Thomas.  Loved ya in Cheers.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on August 27, 2017, 01:23:59 pm
Tobe Hooper, Texas Chain Saw Massacre director, dies at 74


Horror film director Tobe Hooper, who set the movie world abuzz with The Texas Chain Saw Massacre in 1974, has died in California, US media say.

He died in Sherman Oaks at the age of 74, the Los Angeles county coroner was quoted as saying by Variety and Movie Web, without giving further details.

His tale of a family of cannibals with oversized kitchen utensils, laced with dark humour, became cult viewing.
Hooper also directed Poltergeist, and the Salem's Lot TV miniseries.


Excerpt.  Read more at:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41065552

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobe_Hooper


Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: debrawiest on August 28, 2017, 04:13:00 pm
Tobe Hooper, Texas Chain Saw Massacre director, dies at 74




Hooper also directed Poltergeist, and the Salem's Lot TV miniseries.


Excerpt.  Read more at:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41065552

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobe_Hooper

I remember watching Salem's Lot in high school. Scared the heck out of me.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on August 28, 2017, 04:57:27 pm
I remember watching Salem's Lot in high school. Scared the heck out of me.
I remember my mother and two of my sisters covering their eyes during the scene where David Soul went down into the vampire cellar. I admit I had to bite my tongue from laughing at them.
I will say "Salem's Lot" was well done.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: verga on August 28, 2017, 08:50:52 pm
I remember watching Salem's Lot in high school. Scared the heck out of me.
@debrawiest The movie was good, but the book scared the CR@P out of me. I sat in my bedroom holding a crucifix. The most scared I have ever been with out someone shooting at me.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 01, 2017, 05:20:00 pm
Shelley Berman, comedian, dies at 92
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Shelley_berman_1960s.jpg/225px-Shelley_berman_1960s.jpg)

Berman's entertainment career was slow to emerge, beginning his career as a part-time actor and writer before, at the age of 32, getting his break as a comic in Chicago, where he crafted the persona of a beleaguered observer of the eccentricities of life. His most famous routine was that of the one-sided conversation, in which he would carry on with someone on an imaginary phone and leave the unseen character's answer implied. When Bob Newhart went on to great success with the same routine not long after, Berman accused him of plagiarism; Newhart noted that Berman was just one of many influences, some of whom included comedians whom Berman had encountered in his early years.

Berman, while he never emerged as a headlining star, enjoyed a healthy and long-running acting career with roles in film, television and stage spanning six decades. He only ended his acting career after a diagnosis of Alzheimer's disease in 2014, which ultimately led to his death.

Obituary from the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/obituaries/shelley-berman-dead-comedian.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_Berman)

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Millee on September 01, 2017, 05:26:48 pm
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/richard-anderson-dead-six-million-855240

 He played Oscar Goldman on 'The Bionic Woman' spinoff as well after working in such films as 'Paths of Glory,' 'Seven Days in May' and 'Seconds.'

Richard Anderson, who portrayed Oscar Goldman, the head of a secret scientific government organization, on the 1970s series The Six Million Dollar Man and its spinoff, The Bionic Woman, died Thursday. He was 91.

(http://cdn5.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2016/01/richard_anderson_six_million_dollar_man_still.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on September 01, 2017, 07:11:02 pm
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/richard-anderson-dead-six-million-855240

 He played Oscar Goldman on 'The Bionic Woman' spinoff as well after working in such films as 'Paths of Glory,' 'Seven Days in May' and 'Seconds.'

Richard Anderson, who portrayed Oscar Goldman, the head of a secret scientific government organization, on the 1970s series The Six Million Dollar Man and its spinoff, The Bionic Woman, died Thursday. He was 91.

(http://cdn5.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2016/01/richard_anderson_six_million_dollar_man_still.jpg)
@Millee
Richard Anderson also had a key role in one of television's greatest moments: part two of the finale for
The Fugitive, playing Len Taft, the brother-in-law of Richard Kimble, whose name was used by (it
turned out) the city planning commissioner to bail out the one-armed man and continue keeping the
secret that the commissioner had witnessed the murder of Kimble's wife and knew Kimble hadn't
committed the crime.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on September 02, 2017, 07:52:34 pm
Richard Anderson was in EVERYTHING.  The Fugitive was my favorite show so I remember him well in that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on September 03, 2017, 02:39:52 pm
Walter Becker of Steely Dan - 67 years old.

No link.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on September 03, 2017, 02:45:40 pm
Here's one now:

Walter Becker, Steely Dan Co-Founder, Dead at 67 

Walter Becker, guitarist, bassist and co-founder of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame-inducted band Steely Dan, died Sunday at the age of 67.

Becker's official site announced the death; no cause of death or other details were provided.

Becker missed Steely Dan's Classic East and West concerts in July as he recovered from an unspecified ailment. "Walter's recovering from a procedure and hopefully he'll be fine very soon," his band mate Donald Fagen told Billboard. Becker's doctor advised the guitarist not to leave his Maui home for the performances.

MORE AT:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/walter-becker-steely-dan-co-founder-dead-at-67-w500956

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on September 03, 2017, 02:46:19 pm
Walter Becker of Steely Dan - 67 years old.

No link.

huh

Must not have wanted to be a victim like this:


“Donald Fagen dead 2017” : Steely Dan lead singer killed by internet death hoax

News of musician Donald Fagen’s death spread quickly earlier this week causing concern among fans across the world. However the September 2017 report has now been confirmed as a complete hoax and just the latest in a string of fake celebrity death reports. Thankfully, Steely Dan lead singer is alive and well.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on September 03, 2017, 02:49:23 pm
Richard Anderson was in EVERYTHING.  The Fugitive was my favorite show so I remember him well in that.

You're right.  Anderson had a prolific career.  What I particularly remember him from is the last season of Perry Mason.  He played the police lieutenant, Steve Drumm. The original lieutenant, Tragg, was played by Ray Collins, who had passed away.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on September 03, 2017, 03:04:27 pm
Louise Hay died.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/obituaries/louise-hay-dead-widely-read-self-help-author.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 03, 2017, 05:08:29 pm
Louise Hay died.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/obituaries/louise-hay-dead-widely-read-self-help-author.html

Tough lady.  Practiced what she preached, too.  Reading that article, one gets the feeling a lesser person would have shut the lights out on themselves at a very early age, but she overcame and lived to a ripe 90.  An example for us all.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on September 03, 2017, 05:12:29 pm
Walter Becker of Steely Dan - 67 years old.

No link.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/03/548290182/steely-dans-walter-becker-dies-at-67?utm_source=npr_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20170903&utm_campaign=breakingnews&utm_term=nprnews
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on September 03, 2017, 05:13:20 pm
Tough lady.  Practiced what she preached, too.  Reading that article, one gets the feeling a lesser person would have shut the lights out on themselves at a very early age, but she overcame and lived to a ripe 90.  An example for us all.

Yes. Well said, cat friend.
@Cyber Liberty  88888walking kitty 888catlicking
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on September 03, 2017, 05:50:46 pm
Here's one now:

Walter Becker, Steely Dan Co-Founder, Dead at 67 

Walter Becker, guitarist, bassist and co-founder of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame-inducted band Steely Dan, died Sunday at the age of 67.

Becker's official site announced the death; no cause of death or other details were provided.

Becker missed Steely Dan's Classic East and West concerts in July as he recovered from an unspecified ailment. "Walter's recovering from a procedure and hopefully he'll be fine very soon," his band mate Donald Fagen told Billboard. Becker's doctor advised the guitarist not to leave his Maui home for the performances.

MORE AT:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/walter-becker-steely-dan-co-founder-dead-at-67-w500956
Steely Dan is the greatest musical group ever to have been named after a dildo.

And I'll even forgive them for stealing the bass riff of a jazz classic . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWeXOm49kE0

. . . for their . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv-tjDsdduc

RIP Mr. Becker.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: edpc on September 03, 2017, 10:30:42 pm
Walter Becker, guitarist and bass player for Steely Dan, has died. He was 67.

Becker had been in ill health recently, and did not perform with his Steely Dan bandmate Donald Fagen at the Classic East and Classic West festivals this summer. According to Billboard, at the beginning of August, Fagen told reporters on a conference call, "Walter's recovering from a procedure and hopefully he'll be fine very soon." He did not elaborate.

Becker met Donald Fagen as a student at New York's Bard College and they played together in a number of groups, one of which included fellow student Chevy Chase. Becker and Fagen later performed with Jay and the Americans, and composed the soundtrack to a 1971 Richard Pryor film.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/steely-dans-walter-becker-dead-67-192105616--abc-news-topstories.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 03, 2017, 11:35:07 pm
I tried to like Steely Dan, but their music always sounded to me very pretentious northeast Ivy League, and very off putting. RIP Mr. Becker.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: edpc on September 04, 2017, 12:00:26 am
Donald Fagen and Walter Becker isolating portions of the track and discussing the making of Peg.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=waIBA6_0GQc
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on September 04, 2017, 01:41:29 am
I tried to like Steely Dan, but their music always sounded to me very pretentious northeast Ivy League, and very off putting. RIP Mr. Becker.
There always was a smarter-than-thou strain in Becker and Fagen, but when they kept it in check
they made some remarkable music---even if about half their audience had no clue that they
were often being satirical in their lyrics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDppP3MD9N8
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 04, 2017, 02:23:57 am
I liked that song a lot.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: berdie on September 04, 2017, 02:32:09 am
I tried to like Steely Dan, but their music always sounded to me very pretentious northeast Ivy League, and very off putting. RIP Mr. Becker.

I went to see them twice because my brother loves them. The first time they wandered around like the Grateful Dead and I swore I would never go back.

The second time, last year, was a freebie. They were a little more fan friendly. It was a good concert.

RIP Walter.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on September 04, 2017, 03:55:44 am
Shelley Berman, comedian, dies at 92
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Shelley_berman_1960s.jpg/225px-Shelley_berman_1960s.jpg)

Berman's entertainment career was slow to emerge, beginning his career as a part-time actor and writer before, at the age of 32, getting his break as a comic in Chicago, where he crafted the persona of a beleaguered observer of the eccentricities of life. His most famous routine was that of the one-sided conversation, in which he would carry on with someone on an imaginary phone and leave the unseen character's answer implied. When Bob Newhart went on to great success with the same routine not long after, Berman accused him of plagiarism; Newhart noted that Berman was just one of many influences, some of whom included comedians whom Berman had encountered in his early years.

Berman, while he never emerged as a headlining star, enjoyed a healthy and long-running acting career with roles in film, television and stage spanning six decades. He only ended his acting career after a diagnosis of Alzheimer's disease in 2014, which ultimately led to his death.

Obituary from the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/obituaries/shelley-berman-dead-comedian.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_Berman)
Shown slightly out of context in a 1963 television documentary, an incident in which Berman hit the ceiling over
a ringing telephone backstage while he performed at a Miami hotel---a telephone problem he thought had been
fixed earlier in the engagement---made him look so temperamental that within a couple of years his
career as a comedian dried up. (He admitted once to being "a perfectionistic son of a bitch," at least until his
young son died at 12 of a brain tumour.)

But until that, Berman was a comic genius:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbqwpqzc_dY&t=21s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOLuzkzJg3Y
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on September 04, 2017, 03:12:43 pm
Sugar Ramos passes away aged 75 in Mexico City

Quote
Former world featherweight champion Sugar Ramos, real name Ultiminio Ramos, has died at the age of 75 after a long fight from cancer.

One of the first victims of the professional boxing ban in Cuba, Ramos moved to Mexico – where he later became an idol – to escape the communist regime of Fidel Castro in 1961. Two years later he challenged Davey Moore for the WBA and WBC featherweight titles, and it is the tragic outcome of that bout that became Ramos’ unwanted claim to fame.
More (http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/sugar-ramos-passes-away-aged-75-in-mexico-city/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Ramos)

BoxRec (http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/012683)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on September 04, 2017, 03:50:04 pm
Shown slightly out of context in a 1963 television documentary, an incident in which Berman hit the ceiling over
a ringing telephone backstage while he performed at a Miami hotel---a telephone problem he thought had been
fixed earlier in the engagement---made him look so temperamental that within a couple of years his
career as a comedian dried up. (He admitted once to being "a perfectionistic son of a bitch," at least until his
young son died at 12 of a brain tumour.)

But until that, Berman was a comic genius:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbqwpqzc_dY&t=21s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOLuzkzJg3Y
Yes, I remember Berman from his appearances on the Ed Sullivan show. I'm afraid I was just a little too young to understand a lot of his humor.  My parents laughed though.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on September 05, 2017, 10:53:04 pm
David Hlubek of Molly Hatchet. Its been a bad week for 70s bands.

http://bestclassicbands.com/dave-hlubek-obituary-9-3-17/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: edpc on September 05, 2017, 11:21:21 pm
There always was a smarter-than-thou strain in Becker and Fagen, but when they kept it in check
they made some remarkable music---even if about half their audience had no clue that they
were often being satirical in their lyrics.

They went to great lengths to get the 'right' sound from everything, even using multiple types of microphones to get what they wanted from vocals to instruments.  IMO, one of their best from a musical, lyrical, and production standpoint is Deacon Blues.  Listen to it on a quality set of speakers or headphones.  It's almost perfect.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 05, 2017, 11:28:43 pm
RIP Dave. Was never a big MH listener, but this one was legendary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTZHHQplIX8
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on September 05, 2017, 11:36:20 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTR13MV4fqc

Turns out old Dave and I came from the same town. And it wasn't in the south.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on September 06, 2017, 12:03:34 am
Loved Molly Hatchet.  And, Frank Frazetta.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on September 06, 2017, 12:17:38 am
Loved Molly Hatchet.  And, Frank Frazetta.

The two are forever linked.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 06, 2017, 01:11:31 am
Jack Keil, creator and voice of McGruff the Crime Dog, dies at 94

Obituary from the Associated Press (http://wivb.com/2017/09/05/voice-of-mcgruff-the-crime-dog-is-dead-at-94/)

McGruff on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGruff_the_Crime_Dog)

A couple of Keil's McGruff PSA's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wxdY0J3YyI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ4MtfTQOQ8
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 06, 2017, 01:21:27 am
"Take a BITE outta crime!"
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on September 06, 2017, 01:29:16 am
They went to great lengths to get the 'right' sound from everything, even using multiple types of microphones to get what they wanted from vocals to instruments.  IMO, one of their best from a musical, lyrical, and production standpoint is Deacon Blues.  Listen to it on a quality set of speakers or headphones.  It's almost perfect.
@edpc
That's still my favourite song on Aja.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on September 06, 2017, 03:46:23 am
David Hlubek of Molly Hatchet. Its been a bad week for 70s bands.

http://bestclassicbands.com/dave-hlubek-obituary-9-3-17/
8888crybaby
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on September 06, 2017, 05:54:11 am
Can Co-Founder Holger Czukay Dead at 79
Bassist, sampling pioneer found at seminal krautrock outfit's original studio, Inner Space (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/can-co-founder-holger-czukay-dead-at-79-w501368)

RIP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnomsXLIhdg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsl28RkPso8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHCNgT-QCDE
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on September 07, 2017, 04:13:53 pm
Gene Michael, Whose Yankee Teams Won 4 World Series, Dies at 79

Quote
Gene Michael, a Yankee for nearly a half-century, rising from sure-handed shortstop to general manager and building teams that won four World Series championships, died on Thursday. He was 79.

The Yankees reported his death on its website, saying the cause was a heart attack. It did not say where he died.

For much of Michael’s time with the Yankees, George Steinbrenner ran a revolving door that sent players, coaches, managers and front-office personnel spinning in and out of Yankee Stadium. Michael was fired a couple of times, then hired back.

More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/sports/baseball/gene-michael-dead-yankees.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Michael)

Player stats (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/michage01.shtml)

Managerial stats (https://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/michage01.shtml)

@EasyAce
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on September 08, 2017, 01:28:13 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTR13MV4fqc

Turns out old Dave and I came from the same town. And it wasn't in the south.

@skeeter

Don't let it worry you. That was your parents fault,not yours. I'm sure  they are very,very sorry.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on September 08, 2017, 01:30:49 pm
@skeeter

Don't let it worry you. That was your parents fault,not yours. I'm sure  they are very,very sorry.

Are you kidding? EVERYONE wants to be from San Jose.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on September 08, 2017, 01:32:57 pm
Are you kidding? EVERYONE wants to be from San Jose.

Including the TOS server (1/2 the time)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on September 08, 2017, 01:38:48 pm
Including the TOS server (1/2 the time)

Hosting the most expensive yet least reliable server on the planet is just one of San Jose's attractions, ranks just below the Quetzalcoatl sculpture.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on September 08, 2017, 01:43:54 pm
Hosting the most expensive yet least reliable server on the planet is just one of San Jose's attractions, ranks just below the Quetzalcoatl sculpture.

Actually, I think San Jose is the location where John Robinson takes their (ahem) server for repairs every quarter.  Can you imagine the bucks that repairmen  makes? :silly:

Tie wraps and bailing wire must be getting expensive now days.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 08, 2017, 02:12:38 pm
Hosting the most expensive yet least reliable server on the planet is just one of San Jose's attractions, ranks just below the Quetzalcoatl sculpture.

And WAY below the Winchester Mystery House.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on September 08, 2017, 08:32:41 pm
Troy Gentry, county music star dies in NJ helicopter crash

http://nj1015.com/country-music-star-troy-gentry-dies-in-nj-helicopter-crash/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_10595138
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: txradioguy on September 08, 2017, 08:34:01 pm
RIP Troy Gentry of the country duo Montgomery-Gentry.

Died in a helicopter crash today.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on September 08, 2017, 08:39:34 pm
Are you kidding? EVERYONE wants to be from San Jose.

Do you know the way to San Jose?

I've been away so long. I may go wrong and lose my way....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on September 08, 2017, 08:42:08 pm
Troy Gentry, county music star dies in NJ helicopter crash

http://nj1015.com/country-music-star-troy-gentry-dies-in-nj-helicopter-crash/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_10595138

Whoa!

I've heard them a few times (with other acts) long, long ago.  I hope Eddie Montgomery wasn't on board.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on September 08, 2017, 08:42:13 pm
Do you know the way to San Jose?

I've been away so long. I may go wrong and lose my way....

Yes and I also know the way out.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on September 08, 2017, 08:43:22 pm
Troy Gentry, county music star dies in NJ helicopter crash

http://nj1015.com/country-music-star-troy-gentry-dies-in-nj-helicopter-crash/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_10595138

They had a great run in the early 2000s. I know because my kids went through a country music phase about that time. RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on September 08, 2017, 08:44:48 pm
They had a great run in the early 2000s. I know because my kids went through a country music phase about that time. RIP

Yeah, my first thought was, "So young..." and then realized, "Oh, yeah, nearly 20 years ago...I wasn't old then, either..."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: txradioguy on September 08, 2017, 08:53:04 pm
It appears that country singer Don Williams has died as well today at 78 after a brief illness.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 08, 2017, 09:00:46 pm
It appears that country singer Don Williams has died as well today at 78 after a brief illness.
http://wkrn.com/2017/09/08/country-singer-songwriter-don-williams-dies/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 08, 2017, 10:04:16 pm
It appears that country singer Don Williams has died as well today at 78 after a brief illness.

A true country legend.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on September 08, 2017, 10:38:07 pm
Dang... bad day for country singers.  **nononono*
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on September 08, 2017, 10:41:08 pm
Dang... bad day for country singers.  **nononono*

Bad month or so for country, rock and pop. Particularly for the old timers. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on September 08, 2017, 11:26:35 pm
A true country legend.

I knew him before he became one.  Long time ago he worked as a shift electrician in the Cities Service (now Valero) refinery at Three RiversTexas.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: endicom on September 08, 2017, 11:33:56 pm
Jerry Pournelle, today.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: edpc on September 09, 2017, 12:53:00 am
See the late Gregg Allman immortalized in portrait created from his own blood

The late Gregg Allman’s final studio album, Southern Blood, is set for release September 8 — and the deluxe package and first run of the vinyl will include something extra special. Allman and his daughter Layla Brooklyn commissioned a portrait from award-winning surrealist Vincent Castiglia…painted with Allman’s actual blood, and the blood of his children.

Yahoo Music is excited to exclusively premiere a time-lapse video of Castiglia painting the portrait, which shows both his extraordinary skill and his care for the subject.

https://www.yahoo.com/music/see-late-gregg-allman-immortalized-portrait-created-blood-160951026.html

The portrait is good, but blood?  He was known to have Hepatitis C.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on September 09, 2017, 12:56:42 am
Jerry Pournelle, today.

That sucketh big time.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on September 09, 2017, 01:47:16 am
See the late Gregg Allman immortalized in portrait created from his own blood

The late Gregg Allman’s final studio album, Southern Blood, is set for release September 8 — and the deluxe package and first run of the vinyl will include something extra special. Allman and his daughter Layla Brooklyn commissioned a portrait from award-winning surrealist Vincent Castiglia…painted with Allman’s actual blood, and the blood of his children.

Yahoo Music is excited to exclusively premiere a time-lapse video of Castiglia painting the portrait, which shows both his extraordinary skill and his care for the subject.

https://www.yahoo.com/music/see-late-gregg-allman-immortalized-portrait-created-blood-160951026.html

The portrait is good, but blood?  He was known to have Hepatitis C.

That is bizarre. Dunno how I feel about it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on September 09, 2017, 01:49:08 am
Everyone close to my age is dieing. I need to start hanging with a younger crowd.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on September 09, 2017, 01:53:10 am
Everyone close to my age is dieing. I need to start hanging with a younger crowd.

Learn how to skank. It helps.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: edpc on September 09, 2017, 02:03:09 am
Everyone close to my age is dieing.

Second careers as machinists?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on September 09, 2017, 02:10:15 am
Second careers as machinists?

 :silly:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on September 09, 2017, 02:16:19 am
Jerry Pournelle, today.

Apparently he passed in his sleep overnight. Not many details yet.

The original announcement on Instapundit. (https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/275067/)

Obituary at SF Site News (https://www.sfsite.com/news/2017/09/08/obituary-jerry-pournelle/)

Obituary at SFWA.org (http://www.sfwa.org/2017/09/memoriam-jerry-pournelle/)

Obituary at Next Big Future (https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/09/science-fiction-author-jerry-pournelle-has-died.html)

The announcement at Chaos Manor (https://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/dreamers/)

His last post at Chaos Manor. (https://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/dreamers/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on September 09, 2017, 02:36:43 am
Reminds me of the colorful but tragic past of the wooly mammoths, @Wingnut. They were a dyeing breed.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on September 09, 2017, 02:52:51 am
Jerry Pournelle, today.

NOOOO!

Dang!

http://www.sfwa.org/2017/09/memoriam-jerry-pournelle/

84 years young
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on September 09, 2017, 06:48:05 am
Jerry Pournelle, today.

This saddens me so much.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2017, 01:36:59 pm
Are you kidding? EVERYONE wants to be from San Jose.

@skeeter

I have a half-brother that has lived in the same house in San Jose ever since he was born. He'd like to live somewhere else,but seems to be afraid of making a change to the unknown.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2017, 01:39:58 pm
Bad month or so for country, rock and pop. Particularly for the old timers.

@Applewood

EVERY month is a bad month for old-timers.

Don't ask me how I know this.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2017, 01:41:50 pm
Jerry Pournelle, today.

@endicom

THAT one hurt.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2017, 01:45:06 pm
Everyone close to my age is dieing. I need to start hanging with a younger crowd.

@Wingnut

Ain't it the truth? My mama used to tell me the kids I was hanging with were a bad influence on me,and sure enough,it's becoming true.

Of course their mamas were telling them that *I* was a bad influence on them,which was obviously a lie.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on September 09, 2017, 01:50:26 pm
@Applewood

EVERY month is a bad month for old-timers.

Don't ask me how I know this.

And somehow Keith Richards and David Crosby live on
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on September 09, 2017, 02:13:17 pm
And somehow Keith Richards and David Crosby live on

It's the massive quantities of drugs they have ingested over the years.  Acrually, they are both dead, but the drugs have kept them so well preserved, some guy behind the stage can animate them to make it appear they are moving/singing/playing.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on September 09, 2017, 02:21:45 pm
It's the massive quantities of drugs they have ingested over the years.  Acrually, they are both dead, but the drugs have kept them so well preserved, some guy behind the stage can animate them to make it appear they are moving/singing/playing.
I remember many years ago seeing a picture of Richards shortly after he had "recovered" from a heroin bout.  He literally looked like he had died and been dug up....zombie-like.
That was about forty years ago. How he's managed to keep on breathing after all these years is beyond me.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on September 09, 2017, 02:26:57 pm
I remember many years ago seeing a picture of Richards shortly after he had "recovered" from a heroin bout.  He literally looked like he had died and been dug up....zombie-like.
That was about forty years ago. How he's managed to keep on breathing after all these years is beyond me.

One of my favorite Dave Barry columns:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/950247/Stones-may-still-be-rolling-in-the-2060s.html

"Keith is not a health nut. His idea of taking care of his body is to occasionally play an entire song without smoking a cigarette. He has very deep facial creases: You expect at any moment to see a prairie dog poke its head out of his face, blink at the lights, then duck down again. Keith would not notice this. I'm pretty sure the Stones have a guy on a walkie-talkie somewhere, transmitting to Keith's earpiece, reminding him to blink.

The other Stones look healthier than Keith, but then so does the late Chairman Mao. This is not a pretty-boy band. If they've had any plastic surgery, it was apparently done at Home Depot."

 :silly:

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2017, 02:38:30 pm
I remember many years ago seeing a picture of Richards shortly after he had "recovered" from a heroin bout.  He literally looked like he had died and been dug up....zombie-like.
That was about forty years ago. How he's managed to keep on breathing after all these years is beyond me.

@Applewood @goatprairie

The most recent report I have read on the adventures of Keef is that he had fallen out of a tree while drunk and trying to cut a coconut when they were prepping for a tour somewhere "in the islands".

On the day the world ends,it will only be populated by roaches and Keef.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on September 09, 2017, 02:49:14 pm
Joe DeNucci, boxer and long-serving politician, dies at 78

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Joe DeNucci, a former world class middleweight boxing contender who became a politician and the longest-serving state auditor in Massachusetts history, has died at age 78.

DeNucci, who had suffered from Alzheimer’s disease, died Friday at his home in Newton, where his death was confirmed by the Andrew J. Magni & Son Funeral Home.

In his boxing days he fought quality opponents including Emile Griffith, a world champion in multiple weight classes, before turning to the equally rough-and-tumble world of state politics. As a Democrat, he served as a state representative and later held the office of state auditor for 24 years.
More (https://www.boston.com/news/obituaries/2017/09/08/joe-denucci-boxer-and-long-serving-politician-dies-at-78)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._Joseph_DeNucci)

Boxing record (http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/11410)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on September 09, 2017, 06:57:08 pm
@Wingnut

Ain't it the truth? My mama used to tell me the kids I was hanging with were a bad influence on me,and sure enough,it's becoming true.

Of course their mamas were telling them that *I* was a bad influence on them,which was obviously a lie.

I know.  How could they even think that!    :silly: :silly:
@sneakypete
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: montanajoe on September 10, 2017, 03:21:26 am
Don Williams...RIP

I remember hearing an interview with him when asked why he never was on other singer's songs...he said "I'm not good enough for that"...


I think it was the choice of material, as a master storyteller seems to me he realized rightly that it would be impossible to do it any other way... 

http://www.rollingstone.com/country/lists/don-williams-10-essential-songs-w502068
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on September 10, 2017, 08:36:33 pm
By Yours Truly
http://throneberryfields.com/2017/09/10/gene-michael-rip-the-big-stick/

(http://throneberryfields.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/00ONeillMichael.jpg)
Paul O’Neill (far left) and Gene Michael (next to O’Neill) with, from left, head trainer Gene Monahan, Joe Torre, Tino
Martinez, David Cone, Mariano Rivera, and Jorge Posada, when O’Neill—for whom Michael dealt to begin building
the Yankees’ 1996-2000 dynasty —was presented his Monument Park plaque.


You could say the Yankees’ fabled Core Five dynasty wouldn’t have happened if Gene Michael—the
Yankee general manager who was inadvertently allowed to build it, and who died of a heart attack
7 September at 79—hadn’t had something in common with Phil Rizzuto, other than being Yankee
shortstops a couple of generations apart.

They also shared a phobia about creepy, crawly creatures. Michael’s got him into George Steinbrenner’s
sights early and often, when Steinbrenner was a newly-minted Yankee owner and Michael his slick
field/slack hit shortstop in 1973.

As the Yankees began pre-game practise in Texas, Steinbrenner was astonished to see Michael running
onto the field as if he had a tax auditor on his trail, flinging his glove up frantically, with a hot dog falling
from one of the fingers. Like Rizzuto in his playing days, Michael’s teammates took to making him pay
through the proverbial nose for his phobia. Except that Steinbrenner was now the Boss, and he wanted
Michael disciplined to within an inch of the skinny shortstop’s life.

Manager Ralph Houk, stifling his laughter, was forced to tell Michael he wasn’t just in Steinbrenner’s
dog house, he was in the Boss’s dog pound. But Steinbrenner keeping a close eye on the veteran
nicknamed the Stick turned into something else, when he realised Michael had a rare baseball intelligence
that belied his puny playing statistics.

In due course, that intelligence would lead Michael as general manager to make the trade and the four
draft signings that seeded the Yankees’ return to greatness from the mid-1990s through the early
Aughts.

When Michael called it a career as a player in 1976, Steinbrenner made him a scout, then coach, then
minor league manager, then major league manager. Oops. Succeeding Dick Howser after 1980, and a
season as GM in which he seemed to spend more than half his time buffering between Howser and the
Boss, Michael spent one full season and part of another season in what was then the baseball job most
likely to be considered a violation of its holder’s Eighth Amendment rights.

“When you become his manager,” Michael once cracked, “it’s like your IQ drops by fifty percent. All of
a sudden you don’t know anything.”

Steinbrenner invited Michael back to the front office after canning him as manager. Michael demurred,
saying he still thought he was a good manager. “Sure you are,” Steinbrenner agreed. “But why would
you want to stay as manager and be second-guessed by me, when you can come up into the front
office and be one of the second-guessers?”

Michael eventually got another crack at being the Yankees’ general manager, and the timing couldn’t
have been more bizarre. Steinbrenner went into drydock on the orders of then-commissioner Fay
Vincent, after he’d recklessly and foolishly been caught paying off small-time con Howard Spira to
dig up any kind of dirt diggable on outfielder and future Hall of Famer Dave Winfield.

Most tellingly, Michael—who thought nothing of standing up to Steinbrenner’s illogic and seat-of-his-
pants rantings, ravings, and reductionisms no matter which job he held in the Yankee circus—proved
both an astute trader and a master of knowing which trade not to make. Doing both helped return
the Yankees from the Twilight Zone to the next best thing to their 1950s dominance.

First, Michael went against the front office consensus about Roberto Kelly. The front office saw Kelly
as their center fielder of the future as the 1990s began. They loved his power/speed combination and
couldn’t figure out why he hadn’t become the superstar he was supposed to be in his first four Yankee
years.

Michael saw the flaw that answered that question and would keep Kelly from becoming that superstar:
he was an undisciplined hitter who was likely to remain that way. And he also had a taker in Cincinnati,
where then-manager Lou Piniella—formerly a Yankee teammate of Michael’s and twice a Yankee revolving-
door manager—was exhausted of fencing with his talented right fielder Paul O’Neill.

Piniella wanted to turn the disciplined but severely self-critical O’Neill into a pull-hitting 40-bomb a year
man, and his insistence upon it turned O’Neill into a wreck. After Piniella left the Reds to manage the
Mariners, Michael and Reds GM Jim Bowden made the deal. Yankee personnel who fumed over it (and
Steinbrenner, even suspended, wasn’t one of them) were reminded politely that the Yankees had a
better center fielder in waiting, Bernie Williams.

“When I got to New York, he told me they wanted me to play the way I played,” O’Neill remembered
in a New York Post commentary upon Michael’s death, “and even though Yankee Stadium was a pull-
hitter’s stadium I could hit the way I did. He gave me the biggest opportunity of my life.”

O’Neill became the Yankees’ right field fixture and one of the team’s spiritual leaders for the final nine
years of his career. Michael waved away periodic criticism of Williams, concurrently, including orders
from Steinbrenner to trade him. Somehow, Michael kept Steinbrenner at bay just long enough to
move veteran outfielder Mel Hall after he saw Hall bully the resilient and sensitive Williams mercilessly
and once too often.

Williams and O’Neill became outfield fixtures while Michael drafted Derek Jeter, Andy Pettitte, Jorge
Posada, and Mariano Rivera. Married to fellow Yankee farm product Williams, they became the Core
Five who—with a little help from such friends as O’Neill, Tino Martinez, Scott Brosius, David Cone,
and Roger Clemens—drove the Yankees back to greatness, to four World Series rings in five seasons,
and to a refreshed rivalry with the Red Sox in the American League East.

The bad news was that Michael wouldn’t be in the GM’s seat to see the beginning of that Yankee
resurrection. As had happened after the 1981 strike, Michael was fired as GM after the 1994 strike
was resolved in early 1995. Why? The Yankees slumped after both were resolved, and somebody
had to take the fall, especially with Michael haggling with the Boss over a new contract.

Bob Watson and then Brian Cashman succeeded Michael, but those 1996 and 1998-2000 World Series
winners were Michael’s teams. “I always had a great regard for his baseball knowledge, and secondly,
how he handled the stress working for George that many years,” said Joe Torre, who managed those
winners en route the Hall of Fame himself. “He kept the thing afloat when George was away; he did
more than that because he built a heck of an organization.”

“He was a mentor to many people in this office,” Cashman said upon Michael’s death. “He would take
the time and pass the baton. He did it with me and plenty others. If you were interested, he would
give his time and expertise to try and train you. He was a remarkable individual who was impactful.”

Divorced and remarried with four children, Michael knew a few things about balance, including between
statistics and sight. “Numbers are important,” he once said, “only to the degree you can blend them
with what a scout has seen with his own eyes.”

“He knew the game of baseball like few others did,” said Yankee owner Hal Steinbrenner, “and was
always willing and excited to talk about it with anyone in earshot.” Count me among those who’d
have loved to be within earshot whenever the Stick decided to swing about the game he loved.
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Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 11, 2017, 05:01:08 pm
Don Ohlmeyer, television executive for NBC and ABC, dies at 72

Ohlmeyer began his career at ABC in the late 1960s, working under Roone Arledge. An innovator throughout his career, the success of his ideas varied widely. Monday Night Football and The Superstars went on to become major institutions. His attempt to air a football game without announcers was not.

By the 1990s, Ohlmeyer had lost much of his creative touch. After a feud with Norm MacDonald in 1998 (as the story goes, Ohlmeyer was close friends with O.J. Simpson and, after MacDonald asserted he was guilty, fired him from Saturday Night Live and refused to run ads for his upcoming movie Dirty Work on NBC), he was forced into retirement. He was lured back to ABC in 2000 to try to revive Monday Night Football, but many of his oddball suggestions (using nicknames like "Fins" and "Skins" to identify teams in on-screen graphics, and hiring Dennis Miller as a color analyst) backfired and, admitting he had made a grave mistake, he was gone after one year.

Ohlmeyer spent the last years of his career as a professor at Pepperdine University, and spent a year as ESPN's ombudsman. A chronic alcoholic and smoker for most of his life, he died of an unspecified form of cancer September 10.

Obituary from the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/10/sports/don-ohlmeyer-dead-television-abc-nbc.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Ohlmeyer)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on September 11, 2017, 06:39:20 pm
Don Ohlmeyer, television executive for NBC and ABC, dies at 72

Ohlmeyer began his career at ABC in the late 1960s, working under Roone Arledge. An innovator throughout his career, the success of his ideas varied widely. Monday Night Football and The Superstars went on to become major institutions. His attempt to air a football game without announcers was not.

By the 1990s, Ohlmeyer had lost much of his creative touch. After a feud with Norm MacDonald in 1998 (as the story goes, Ohlmeyer was close friends with O.J. Simpson and, after MacDonald asserted he was guilty, fired him from Saturday Night Live and refused to run ads for his upcoming movie Dirty Work on NBC), he was forced into retirement. He was lured back to ABC in 2000 to try to revive Monday Night Football, but many of his oddball suggestions (using nicknames like "Fins" and "Skins" to identify teams in on-screen graphics, and hiring Dennis Miller as a color analyst) backfired and, admitting he had made a grave mistake, he was gone after one year.

Ohlmeyer spent the last years of his career as a professor at Pepperdine University, and spent a year as ESPN's ombudsman. A chronic alcoholic and smoker for most of his life, he died of an unspecified form of cancer September 10.

Obituary from the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/10/sports/don-ohlmeyer-dead-television-abc-nbc.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Ohlmeyer)
I remember the announcer-less football games with subtitles.  It was an experiment that failed.  I guess a number of people had wondered how the games would seem if they didn't have the gabbing announcers and color men.
Another thought is the idea that when you go to a game in person, there are no play by play announcers (unless you're also listening to a radio), and they were trying to recreate the feeling.
Nevertheless,  watching a game on tv is not quite the same as being there.  I guess people really do like  talkers during the game as they're watching it on tv. The sensation I had was that it was weird without the yakkers.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on September 12, 2017, 04:02:36 am
RIP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjrVXONBVE
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on September 12, 2017, 04:10:40 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T37UqfkmuY8
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on September 12, 2017, 04:17:24 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iSf8wxEttk
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on September 12, 2017, 04:25:46 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-S-PaMWhwI
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on September 12, 2017, 04:34:26 am
This sucks.
One of my favorite bands...
I don't think there's any coming back from this one.  **nononono*

Fade to black.
RIP Indeed.

 :amen:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Wingnut on September 12, 2017, 04:36:58 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoPg1EG2AKk
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 08:31:57 pm
This sucks.
One of my favorite bands...
I don't think there's any coming back from this one.  **nononono*

Fade to black.
RIP Indeed.
We survived that plane crash (as did Waylon), we'll get through this, too. Still, RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 09:57:52 pm
Oh, you read me wrong @Smokin Joe ... I know we'll go on. Heck it don't even matter in the big scheme.

I meant Montgomery Gentry is done... I don't think that will go any further... And that's too bad.

But yeah... RIP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr-BYVeCv6U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr-BYVeCv6U)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on September 13, 2017, 08:58:29 am
This was all over my phone as alerts earlier yesterday.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/edith-windsor-whose-same-sex-marriage-fight-led-to-landmark-ruling-dies-at-88/ar-AArPKIM?OCID=ansmsnnews11

Just adding it here as a FYI
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on September 13, 2017, 02:13:44 pm
Her wife?  Sorry, but I can't get used to this he's my wife, she's my husband thing.  Bed partner might be more appropriate. 

Since I have nothing good to say about Miss Windsor, I won't say anything else.  She's in God's hands now.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: endicom on September 13, 2017, 07:35:42 pm
Pete Domenici - 85

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/13/pete-domenici-former-new-mexico-gop-senator-dead-at-85.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: MajorClay on September 13, 2017, 11:01:25 pm
RIP Pete
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on September 13, 2017, 11:28:33 pm
Frank Vincent, ‘Sopranos’ and ‘Goodfellas’ Actor, Dies at 78

Frank Vincent, known for portraying Phil Leotard on “The Sopranos,” has died, his “Sopranos” co-star Vincent Pastore announced on Facebook. He was 78.

TMZ reports that he died due to complications of heart surgery after a heart attack. John Gallagher, who directed Vincent in “Street Hunter,” “The Deli,” and “Animal Room,” also posted the news on Facebook.

Vincent began acting in 1976 when he co-starred in the low-budget crime film “The Death Collector” alongside Joe Pesci. Vincent then acted in Martin Scorsese’s “Raging Bull,” which sparked the first of many collaborations between Vincent, Pesci, and Robert De Niro, including “Goodfellas” and “Casino.”‘

More at:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrity/frank-vincent-%E2%80%98sopranos%E2%80%99-and-%E2%80%98goodfellas%E2%80%99-actor-dies-at-78/ar-AArTarY?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Vincent



Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on September 13, 2017, 11:49:14 pm
RIP Pete

@MajorClay

Since it seems like I'm always the last one to hear,you had me scared for a minute,there.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on September 13, 2017, 11:56:28 pm
@MajorClay

Since it seems like I'm always the last one to hear,you had me scared for a minute,there.

LOL, someone here would have let you know, Pete!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on September 14, 2017, 04:35:08 pm
Pete Domenici - 85

Didn't realize he was that old.  Time flies.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on September 14, 2017, 06:41:34 pm
Didn't Frank Vincent's character in Sopranos have an SUV roll over his head?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on September 14, 2017, 06:51:07 pm
Didn't Frank Vincent's character in Sopranos have an SUV roll over his head?

Whadya Gonna Do?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on September 14, 2017, 08:08:58 pm
Otto Wanz passes away at 74 years old

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Otto Wanz, the most famous wrestler in Germany and Austria during the 70s and 80s, passed away Thursday morning from what was described as a short but heavy illness. He was 74.

Wanz, a powerhouse at 6-foot-2 and 380 pounds, would be best known in the United States for his run as AWA Champion in 1982. Wanz had been champion of his own Catch Wrestling Association, but was largely unknown outside of Germany and Austria. He defeated Nick Bockwinkel for the title on August 29th, 1982, in St. Paul in a match that caused lingering hard feelings between Bockwinkel and longtime manager Bobby Heenan, because Bockwinkel never told Heenan that the title was changing hands ahead of time.
More (http://www.f4wonline.com/other-wrestling/otto-wanz-passes-away-74-years-old-242836)

Another article: Former AWA World champion Otto Wanz dies (http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Wrestling/2017/09/14/22752384.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Wanz)

Videos (https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Otto+Wanz%22&source=lnms&tbm=vid)

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on September 16, 2017, 12:07:43 am
Character actor Harry Dean Stanton dies at age 91

http://wtop.com/movies/2017/09/character-actor-harry-dean-stanton-dies-at-age-91/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on September 16, 2017, 12:46:26 am
Character actor Harry Dean Stanton dies at age 91

http://wtop.com/movies/2017/09/character-actor-harry-dean-stanton-dies-at-age-91/
One of my favorite character actors. He was in a zillion tv shows and many movies. Love to watch old westerns like Gunsmoke and see these guys as they started out their careers. 
Stanton made it pretty far going beyond many character actors and even co-starring in a number films with the likes of Jack Nicholson (i.e. Missouri Breaks) and other major stars.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on September 16, 2017, 02:30:40 am
Character actor Harry Dean Stanton dies at age 91

http://wtop.com/movies/2017/09/character-actor-harry-dean-stanton-dies-at-age-91/

Actual conversation I just had with my wife:

Me: "Harry Dean Stanton has passed away."

Her: "You're kidding! He wasn't that old!"

Me: "He was 91."

Her: "You're kidding! He was that old?"

That being said...

Harry Dean Stanton was a great character actor, and he will be missed.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 18, 2017, 12:35:08 am
Bobby "The Brain" Heenan dies at 72

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Andre_and_Bobby_Heenan.jpg/640px-Andre_and_Bobby_Heenan.jpg)

Heenan was involved in the professional wrestling business from childhood, beginning as a concession salesboy and coat boy, then working his way up through the regional circuits and into the American Wrestling Association. In 1984, Heenan, like most of the AWA's talent, was raided by Vince McMahon as part of his World Wrestling Federation's rise to national fame. Heenan spent nine years with what is now WWE, mostly as a manager, where he became one of the company's most notorious villains. He was forced into retirement because of neck problems in 1993, at which point his longtime broadcast partner, Gorilla Monsoon, literally threw him out of the arena in a stunt.

He came out of retirement to join World Championship Wrestling in 1994. His time in WCW was less memorable. His career was permanently dented by a throat cancer diagnosis in 2002; the cancer recurred in his mouth in 2007, which required his jaw to be reconstructed and hampered his ability to speak.

WWE obituary (http://www.wwe.com/article/bobby-heenan-passes-away)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Heenan)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on September 18, 2017, 01:16:15 am
Bobby "The Brain" Heenan dies at 72

No!  8888crybaby
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on September 18, 2017, 03:19:18 am
'I was just doing my job': Soviet officer who averted nuclear war dies at age 77
Published time: 17 Sep, 2017 19:01
https://www.rt.com/news/403625-nuclear-soviet-officer-died/

[...]

On September 7, Schumacher, who kept in touch with Petrov in the intervening years, phoned him to wish him a happy birthday, but instead learned from Petrov’s son, Dmitry, that the retired officer had died on May 19 in his home in a small town near Moscow.

[...]

On September 26, 1983, [Soviet lieutenant colonel] Stanislav Petrov was on duty in charge of an early warning radar system in a bunker near Moscow, when just past midnight he saw the radar screen showing a single missile inbound from the United States and headed toward the Soviet Union.

[...]

Taught that in case of a real attack the US would have gone on an all-out offensive, Petrov told his bosses the alarm must have been caused by a system malfunction.

“I’ll admit it, I was scared. I knew the level of responsibility at my fingertips,” he said.

 It was later revealed that what the Soviet satellites took for missiles launch was sunlight reflected from clouds.

[...]

Excerpt. Cross-posted here: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,281554.0.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 18, 2017, 03:28:41 am
Literally a guy who saved the world and didn't lionize himself for doing it. Refreshing.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on September 20, 2017, 02:43:31 pm
Jake LaMotta dead: 'Raging Bull' boxing legend dies aged 95

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Jake LaMotta – the legendary boxer depicted by Robert DeNiro in Raging Bull – has died, aged 95...

He liked to fight on the inside and was famous for stalking his opponents, who often had bigger punches, but less grit and determination. He is regarded as having one of the best chins in the history of the sport.

In an era of premium middleweights, LaMotta had some epic encounters. Most notable among these were six hair-raising fights with his great rival Sugar Ray Robinson...
More (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/jake-lamotta-dead-family-members-report-passing-raging-bull-boxing-legend-aged-96-1640095)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_LaMotta)

BoxRec (http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/9030)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0483766/)

Article with pictures and videos (http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/20/jake-lamotta-dead-96-raging-bull-dies/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on September 20, 2017, 02:48:01 pm
Wow!  Didn't know Jake LaMotta was still around.   One of the greats in boxing.   

Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 21, 2017, 02:14:04 am
I'm Gonna Git You Sucka Star Bernie Casey Dies at 78

http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrity/im-gonna-git-you-sucka-star-bernie-casey-dies-at-78/ar-AAsh80N

(http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAshfpq.img?h=685&w=728&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=1018&y=466)

Bernie Casey, best known for his scene-stealing role in Revenge of the Nerds and as the star of I’m Gonna Git You Sucka, has died at the age of 78.

The actor’s rep confirmed to PEOPLE that he died peacefully in a Los Angeles hospital Tuesday, surrounded by loved ones. He had suffered a recent illness and spent the past few days in a hospital.

In his youth, Casey was a record-breaking track and field athlete at Bowling Green University, earning All-American honors and a trip to the finals at the 1960 U.S. Olympic Trials. He was later drafted by the San Francisco 49ers as a top 10 pick, and played in the NFL as a wide-receiver for eight seasons, earning trips to the Pro Bowl.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Oceander on September 21, 2017, 02:16:12 am
I'm Gonna Git You Sucka Star Bernie Casey Dies at 78

http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrity/im-gonna-git-you-sucka-star-bernie-casey-dies-at-78/ar-AAsh80N

(http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAshfpq.img?h=685&w=728&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=1018&y=466)

Bernie Casey, best known for his scene-stealing role in Revenge of the Nerds and as the star of I’m Gonna Git You Sucka, has died at the age of 78.

The actor’s rep confirmed to PEOPLE that he died peacefully in a Los Angeles hospital Tuesday, surrounded by loved ones. He had suffered a recent illness and spent the past few days in a hospital.

In his youth, Casey was a record-breaking track and field athlete at Bowling Green University, earning All-American honors and a trip to the finals at the 1960 U.S. Olympic Trials. He was later drafted by the San Francisco 49ers as a top 10 pick, and played in the NFL as a wide-receiver for eight seasons, earning trips to the Pro Bowl.

Rest In Peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on September 21, 2017, 03:41:39 pm
I'm Gonna Git You Sucka Star Bernie Casey Dies at 78

http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrity/im-gonna-git-you-sucka-star-bernie-casey-dies-at-78/ar-AAsh80N

(http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAshfpq.img?h=685&w=728&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=1018&y=466)

Bernie Casey, best known for his scene-stealing role in Revenge of the Nerds and as the star of I’m Gonna Git You Sucka, has died at the age of 78.

The actor’s rep confirmed to PEOPLE that he died peacefully in a Los Angeles hospital Tuesday, surrounded by loved ones. He had suffered a recent illness and spent the past few days in a hospital.

In his youth, Casey was a record-breaking track and field athlete at Bowling Green University, earning All-American honors and a trip to the finals at the 1960 U.S. Olympic Trials. He was later drafted by the San Francisco 49ers as a top 10 pick, and played in the NFL as a wide-receiver for eight seasons, earning trips to the Pro Bowl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alUFKzUuudI
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 24, 2017, 12:48:37 pm
Charles Bradley, "screaming eagle of soul," dies at 68

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Charles_Bradley_-_The_Menahan_Street_Band_%28Jazz_Fest_Wien_2011%29_27.jpg/320px-Charles_Bradley_-_The_Menahan_Street_Band_%28Jazz_Fest_Wien_2011%29_27.jpg)

Bradley, a working-class man who spent most of his young adulthood working odd jobs and cooking for a living, assumed the persona of Black Velvet, a James Brown tribute act, around the time he turned 50.

Daptone Records, a soul revival record label that also discovered the late Sharon Jones who died late last year, discovered Bradley's Black Velvet act and signed him to a record deal. Bradley would often improvise lyrics on his later performances. Daptone would release three albums of Bradley's performances between 2011 and 2014.

Bradley was diagnosed with stomach cancer in August 2016.

Obituary from CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/24/entertainment/charles-bradley-soul-singer-dead/index.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bradley_(singer))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBdTVmSVq14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi49yirJiEA
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on September 28, 2017, 03:34:40 am
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/09/28/hugh-hefner-playboy-founder-dead-at-91.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on September 28, 2017, 03:57:51 am
Hugh Hefner, iconic founder of Playboy, has died at age 91 (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/27/hugh-hefner-iconic-founder-of-playboy-has-died-at-age-91.html)

I write for Playboy to communicate my views to my seventeen-year-old son.---William F. Buckley, Jr.

Hey, anyone who could have put on as great a jazz festival as the 1959 Playboy Jazz Festival in Chicago
couldn't have been all that bad . . . here's one of the artists who played there, played here in Hefner's
memory . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWSjRW4iu9E
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on September 30, 2017, 11:21:49 pm
Monty Hall, host of Let's Make a Deal, dead at 96 (http://www.wpxi.com/news/national/monty-halllets-make-a-deal-host-and-co-creator-dead-at-96/617377652).
____________________________________
Quote
... Sharon Hall says her father died Saturday morning of heart failure at his home in Beverly Hills, California.

Hall co-created “Let’s Make a Deal,” which debuted on NBC in 1963 and became a TV staple for decades.  ...

His daughter says Hall, who was born in Canada, enjoyed his fame and never turned down an autograph or a chance to use his name to help others.

She estimates he raised nearly $1 billion for charity over his lifetime.
link (http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/09/30/monty-hall-obituary/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on September 30, 2017, 11:33:42 pm
Monty Hall, host of Let's Make a Deal, dead at 96 (http://www.wpxi.com/news/national/monty-halllets-make-a-deal-host-and-co-creator-dead-at-96/617377652).
____________________________________link (http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/09/30/monty-hall-obituary/)
What I find truly impressive is that he was married to the same person for seventy years. On September 28, 1947, Hall married a distant cousin, Marilyn Doreen Plottel (May 17, 1927 – June 5, 2017) You have to wonder if his wife's passing in June was a contributing factor to his passing. RIP Monty, I'm sure you made a heck of a deal!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on September 30, 2017, 11:49:12 pm
Monty Hall, host of Let's Make a Deal, dead at 96 (http://www.wpxi.com/news/national/monty-halllets-make-a-deal-host-and-co-creator-dead-at-96/617377652).
____________________________________link (http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/09/30/monty-hall-obituary/)

Wow, I did not know he was still alive.

Obscure fact: his name was the basis for a role-playing game term. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game_terms#M_2)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on October 01, 2017, 12:01:47 am
What I find truly impressive is that he was married to the same person for seventy years. On September 28, 1947, Hall married a distant cousin, Marilyn Doreen Plottel (May 17, 1927 – June 5, 2017) You have to wonder if his wife's passing in June was a contributing factor to his passing. RIP Monty, I'm sure you made a heck of a deal!

Now he is reunited with his wife in heaven. 

Rest in peace, Mr. Hall.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on October 01, 2017, 12:43:43 am
You have to wonder if his wife's passing in June was a contributing factor to his passing. RIP Monty, I'm sure you made a heck of a deal!
You can bet your house on it.

When Yogi Berra's wife, Carmen, died in 2014, six weeks after their 65th anniversary, I knew
it was just a matter of time before Yogi joined her. Which he did, sixteen months later. He
was once asked his greatest accomplishment and, pointing to the door through which she
had just passed, he said, "Getting her to marry me. Who would have thought?"
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on October 01, 2017, 01:46:18 am
Wow, I did not know he was still alive.

Obscure fact: his name was the basis for a role-playing game term. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game_terms#M_2)

@Ghost Bear

Your post lays out exactly what went through my mind when I read the news!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on October 01, 2017, 02:07:23 am
Monty Hall's classic guest shot on The Odd Couple . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP8STgPlNQE
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on October 01, 2017, 06:28:06 am
Monty Hall's classic guest shot on The Odd Couple . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP8STgPlNQE
"The yes's have it 2 to 1."  Classic :silly:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: driftdiver on October 02, 2017, 07:19:41 pm
http://www.fox13news.com/news/tom-petty-found-in-full-cardiac-arrest-unconscious-tmz-reports

Tom Petty was rushed to the hospital Sunday night after he was found unconscious, not breathing and in full cardiac arrest, according to TMZ.

EMTs rushed to his Malibu home and were able to get a pulse SUnday night, TMZ reported. He was then rushed to the UCLA Santa Monica Hospital and TMZ said he was put on life support.

His condition is currently unknown but was critical since the moment he was found.

Petty gained fame in 1978 with the band Tom Petty and the Hearbreakers with the song "Breakdown". The 66-year-old and his band were taking a break from the "40th Anniversary Tour".

The band last played September 25th in Los Angeles and had two dates scheduled for early November in New York
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on October 02, 2017, 07:24:23 pm
66 years old.  **nononono*
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on October 02, 2017, 07:27:59 pm
That's too young. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 02, 2017, 07:45:15 pm
Tom Petty dies at 66

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Tom_Petty_2012_JazzFest.jpg/160px-Tom_Petty_2012_JazzFest.jpg)

Petty was lead singer of The Heartbreakers, which had consistent success on the rock and top-40 charts from 1978 to 1994. Other bands in which Petty performed included Mudcrutch, which had originally formed in the early 1970s but reunited in 2008 to greater success; and the Traveling Wilburys, a supergroup that included Petty, Jeff Lynne, George Harrison, Bob Dylan and Roy Orbison.

Petty was found unresponsive in his car October 2, in what was later determined to be total cardiac arrest, and was ruled brain dead at the hospital, where he would be taken off life support.

Death notice from TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/10/02/tom-petty-found-unconscious-full-cardiac-arrest/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Petty)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 02, 2017, 07:49:59 pm
What an awful news day this is.   **nononono*
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: txradioguy on October 02, 2017, 07:51:25 pm
Another FReeper has passed....RIP....Leona Marie House aka Bentfeather/Soaringfeather
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on October 02, 2017, 08:29:31 pm
Tom Petty?  Geez!  Only about 2 years older than I.  Great body of work. 

Rest in peace, man.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on October 02, 2017, 08:30:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJj6GwfCWu8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBsC598bja4

RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on October 02, 2017, 09:07:57 pm
I guess I'm totally unfamiliar with who Tom Petty is. I was thinking he had something to do with car racing.  :shrug:

Anyway, the older I get, the younger 66 sounds. Prayers for his loved ones.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on October 02, 2017, 09:18:17 pm
I guess I'm totally unfamiliar with who Tom Petty is. I was thinking he had something to do with car racing.  :shrug:

Anyway, the older I get, the younger 66 sounds. Prayers for his loved ones.

I had to look him up to find out about him.  I'm not a rocker so I had no idea before. 66 is WAY too young.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on October 02, 2017, 09:23:31 pm
I guess I'm totally unfamiliar with who Tom Petty is. I was thinking he had something to do with car racing.  :shrug:

Anyway, the older I get, the younger 66 sounds. Prayers for his loved ones.

I liked his music. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GrouchoTex on October 02, 2017, 09:30:52 pm
Tom Petty dies at 66

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Tom_Petty_2012_JazzFest.jpg/160px-Tom_Petty_2012_JazzFest.jpg)

Petty was lead singer of The Heartbreakers, which had consistent success on the rock and top-40 charts from 1978 to 1994. Other bands in which Petty performed included Mudcrutch, which had originally formed in the early 1970s but reunited in 2008 to greater success; and the Traveling Wilburys, a supergroup that included Petty, Jeff Lynne, George Harrison, Bob Dylan and Roy Orbison.

Petty was found unresponsive in his car October 2, in what was later determined to be total cardiac arrest, and was ruled brain dead at the hospital, where he would be taken off life support.

Death notice from TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/10/02/tom-petty-found-unconscious-full-cardiac-arrest/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Petty)

I always liked the song "Southern Accent"

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on October 02, 2017, 09:41:09 pm
I guess I'm totally unfamiliar with who Tom Petty is. I was thinking he had something to do with car racing.  :shrug:
He answered a higher calling---music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8s9dmuAKvU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIhb-kNvL6M
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GrouchoTex on October 02, 2017, 09:51:29 pm
LAPD says they haven't heard that Petty had died.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/tom-petty-on-life-support-after-cardiac-arrest-according-to-reports/ar-AAsPaul?li=BBnbfcL
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on October 02, 2017, 09:51:54 pm
I always liked the song "Southern Accent"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jBi8XfKzk0
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: txradioguy on October 02, 2017, 09:53:25 pm
LAPD says they haven't heard that Petty had died.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/tom-petty-on-life-support-after-cardiac-arrest-according-to-reports/ar-AAsPaul?li=BBnbfcL

Tom Petty to the media saying he's died:

"Don't Do Me Like That"
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on October 02, 2017, 10:03:06 pm
LAPD says they haven't heard that Petty had died.

http://www.msn.com/ene-us/music/celebrity/tom-petty-on-life-support-after-cardiac-arrest-according-to-reports/ar-AAsPaul?li=BBnbfcL

Thanks. CBS and ABC are also casting doubts on the story that Petty died. 

By the way - life support could mean he is on a respirator.  I was hooked up to that after my cardiac arrest and I survived.  Apparently, the respirator is SOP after a cardiac arrest -- at least it was back when I had mine. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 02, 2017, 11:00:23 pm
I liked his music.
Yep. Me, too. RIP, and thanks.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on October 03, 2017, 01:16:38 am
Thanks. CBS and ABC are also casting doubts on the story that Petty died. 

By the way - life support could mean he is on a respirator.  I was hooked up to that after my cardiac arrest and I survived.  Apparently, the respirator is SOP after a cardiac arrest -- at least it was back when I had mine.

@Applewood

There is another news report that says he is in the hospital,still living and being treated. Didn't read more than the headline,though.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on October 03, 2017, 02:21:21 am
Latest I've heard---he's off life support, but possibly brain dead.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on October 03, 2017, 02:28:59 am
Latest I've heard---he's off life support, but possibly brain dead.

That's too bad. Well then, he's in God's hands now.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on October 03, 2017, 03:08:04 am
Latest I've heard---he's off life support, but possibly brain dead.

@EasyAce

I guess that means he will keep voting Dim. Maybe even for hundreds of years.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on October 03, 2017, 04:39:15 am
According to Billboard, his manager just confirmed Petty's death, early this evening.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Major Confusion on October 03, 2017, 05:02:19 am
Tom Petty?  Geez!  Only about 2 years older than I.  Great body of work. 

Rest in peace, man.

The Traveling Wiburys are getting back together one singer at a time.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on October 03, 2017, 05:12:55 am
The Traveling Wiburys are getting back together one singer at a time.

Truly a  great group in my view. Only Dylan and Jeff Lynne left to go.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on October 03, 2017, 06:04:38 am
I had to look him up to find out about him.  I'm not a rocker so I had no idea before. 66 is WAY too young.

Whew! I'm glad I'm not the only one. :seeya: I did visit YouTube and listened to 4 of his songs. That was enough for me. I'm simply not able to discern his appeal. Nevertheless, I am saddened for his loved ones.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on October 03, 2017, 11:19:50 am
The Traveling Wiburys are getting back together one singer at a time.

Bob Dylan and Jeff Lynne are the only remaining alive.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on October 03, 2017, 12:06:46 pm
Bob Dylan and Jeff Lynne are the only remaining alive.

@catfish1957

IMHO,Dylan is a over-rated media creation,and Jeff Lynne is not appreciated enough for his contributions.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on October 03, 2017, 12:10:04 pm
My favorite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtLpZWNyM0I

Rest in Peace, Tom.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on October 03, 2017, 12:18:59 pm
Several news sources have confirmed that Tom Petty has died.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/03/tom-petty-dead-at-66-musicians-celebrities-react.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/entertainment/tom-petty-obit/index.html

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/03/tom-petty-dead-at-66-musicians-celebrities-react.html

From Full Moon Fever:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTXb-ga1fo
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on October 03, 2017, 12:21:36 pm
'Refugee' was one of his best; IMHO atypical of most of his songs.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFnOfpIJL0M
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: DCPatriot on October 03, 2017, 12:41:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqhdRs4jyA&feature=channel
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on October 03, 2017, 08:13:37 pm
Have always been a huge Petty fan.  Have every album / CD as it was produced, even back to the mid '70's.

My favorite is this ditty (though somewhat obscure) .....a video was made for it.

And as a musician, I can honestly say it is probably his most complex work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0JvF9vpqx8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0JvF9vpqx8)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on October 03, 2017, 08:17:21 pm
@catfish1957

IMHO,Dylan is a over-rated media creation,and Jeff Lynne is not appreciated enough for his contributions.

After the Rock and Roll  & Hall of Fame travesty of not letting Rush in. until '13 , in the next most overlooked bands are ELO & the Moody Blues
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on October 03, 2017, 09:39:19 pm
My favorite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtLpZWNyM0I

Rest in Peace, Tom.
j

My. Favorite song too. Freefalling was number two.

And I loved him on "King of the Hill"


So very bummed. RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: NavyCanDo on October 03, 2017, 10:30:19 pm
I remember standing in a 2 hour line to buy tickets to Paul McCartney who was playing at Seattle's King Dome.  I quickly learned that most of the people in that long long line that stretched around the block were there to buy Tom Petty tickets. The  hanging of the gaurd right becore my eyes.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod2 on October 03, 2017, 10:42:39 pm
Merged a Petty thread into Obituaries thread.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on October 03, 2017, 11:15:16 pm
After the Rock and Roll  & Hall of Fame travesty of not letting Rush in. until '13 , in the next most overlooked bands are ELO & the Moody Blues

@catfish1957

Amen,amen,AMEN!

They are letting rap groups in,who don't even play music,never mind rock and roll,and keeping ELO and the Moody Blues out?

SOMBODIE should have stopped taking acid about a decade earlier.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on October 03, 2017, 11:18:58 pm
After the Rock and Roll  & Hall of Fame travesty of not letting Rush in. until '13 , in the next most overlooked bands are ELO & the Moody Blues

@catfish1957

BTW,last I heard,they were still refusing to let the Marshall Tucker Band in,too. Toy and Tommy laid down some of the sweetest tracks ever heard,yet they are still out and Run DMC is in?????
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on October 03, 2017, 11:33:07 pm
@catfish1957

BTW,last I heard,they were still refusing to let the Marshall Tucker Band in,too. Toy and Tommy laid down some of the sweetest tracks ever heard,yet they are still out and Run DMC is in?????

That does make you wonder.  No Marshall Tucker?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 04, 2017, 12:27:38 am
That does make you wonder.  No Marshall Tucker?

No ELP either.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on October 04, 2017, 12:27:55 am
'Goodfellas' actor Charles Low, Robert De Niro's buddy, dead at 89

A real estate developer whose friendship with Robert De Niro led him to an acting career that included a notable appearance in "Goodfellas" has died. Charles Low was 89.

Low died Sept. 18 at a nursing home in New Jersey.

Low and De Niro developed a friendship after the actor became a tenant in a building Low owned in New York City. Low went on to act in several films, including "Scent of a Woman," ''The King of Comedy" and "Once Upon a Time in America," and also appeared on the HBO series "The Sopranos."

Low's most notable role came in "Goodfellas," where he played wig salesman Morris "Morrie" Kessler. The character was killed by a screwdriver plunged into the back of his head.

Low's family says his funeral was held Sept. 20 in Elmont, New York.



http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/03/goodfellas-actor-charles-low-robert-de-niros-buddy-dead-at-89.html

Also see:

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/10/chuck_low_goodfellas_dead_at_89.html

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: austingirl on October 04, 2017, 12:53:34 am
@catfish1957

Amen,amen,AMEN!

They are letting rap groups in,who don't even play music,never mind rock and roll,and keeping ELO and the Moody Blues out?

SOMBODIE should have stopped taking acid about a decade earlier.

It is sacrilegious to admit rappers into the ROCK and ROLL Hall of Fame.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: austingirl on October 04, 2017, 12:54:28 am
RIP, Tom Petty and thanks for the music. I hope you are running down your dream in heaven.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on October 04, 2017, 01:42:23 am
Fan of his early stuff. Great writing and arrangement, he always had an amazing ability to set a mood, edgy but laid back at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-x1KoPlJTI&index=23&list=PLoX5VdQlt9OcYhDaGtpWBCD7klOJGg6Y9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4nPa35CZPI

One of my favorite rock duets ever laid to vinyl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UD0c58nNCQ


Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: DemolitionMan on October 04, 2017, 01:59:14 am
Dedicated To Tom


www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMVjToYOjbM
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: debrawiest on October 04, 2017, 12:29:37 pm


One of my favorite rock duets ever laid to vinyl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UD0c58nNCQ

There's nothing to improve upon in this song. It just plain rocks.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on October 04, 2017, 03:57:38 pm
Solly Hemus, last Cardinals player-manager, dies at 94

Quote
Former Cardinals player and manager Solly Hemus, the last big-league manager alive who had managed in the 1950s and the last Cardinals player-manager in 1959, died at age 94 on Monday in Houston. He had been in ill health.

Solomon Joseph Hemus, a 5-foot-9, hard-nosed infielder, had a lifetime batting mark of .273 in an 11-season career with the Cardinals and Philadelphia Phillies from 1949-59.

Cardinals Hall of Famer Red Schoendienst, who played second next to Hemus at shortstop for several seasons in here in the early 1950s, recalled Hemus as a “tough player, a winning-type player. If he needed to get hit by a pitch, he’d stick right in there. He’d try to get on base for the guys behind him.
More (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/cardinal-beat/solly-hemus-last-cardinals-player-manager-dies-at/article_6da38995-39a7-5632-965c-2290e5e4ec5c.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solly_Hemus)

Player record (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hemusso01.shtml)

Managerial record (https://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/hemusso01.shtml)

@EasyAce

I remember reading about Hemus in Jim Brosnan's The Long Season. Hemus sounded like a real dick, and possibly racist.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on October 04, 2017, 06:37:24 pm
Solly Hemus, last Cardinals player-manager, dies at 94
More (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/cardinal-beat/solly-hemus-last-cardinals-player-manager-dies-at/article_6da38995-39a7-5632-965c-2290e5e4ec5c.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solly_Hemus)

Player record (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hemusso01.shtml)

Managerial record (https://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/hemusso01.shtml)

@EasyAce

I remember reading about Hemus in Jim Brosnan's The Long Season. Hemus sounded like a real dick, and possibly racist.
@Machiavelli
Hemus was a real dick and a definite racist. He's the damn fool who told Curt Flood and Bob Gibson
they'd never make it. It was after Hemus was succeeded by Johnny Keane that the Cardinals actively
began changing their racial culture with things like compelling hotels in spring training to allow black
and white and Hispanic players to stay in the same hotel and even room together if they chose.
(Keane, among other things, had managed Bob Gibson in the minors and knew both his ability and
his personality well.)

Johnny Keane probably deserved better than he ended up getting, too. For those who don't know
the story, it goes like this:

After ending his playing career in 1963 as a player-coach, Yogi Berra was installed as the manager
of the Yankees. The motivation: desperation to cut into the popularity of the crosstown, comically
inept Mets, managed by former Yankee skipper Casey Stengel, and outdrawing the Yankees in the
dilapidated Polo Grounds (Shea Stadium would open for 1964), and there was no more popular
Yankee who might fit the bill than Yogi. The wick to the powder keg: general manager Roy Hamey
retired unexpectedly after the 1963 World Series, stepping down to become a part-time scout,
and manager Ralph Houk was named to succeed him. Not to mention that the Baltimore Orioles
had feelers out about whether Berra might like to manage them, which probably helped the
Yankees make up their minds.

It also turned out that co-owners Dan Topping and Del Webb were hoping to make the team more
attractive to prospective buyers with those moves—the pair decided to get out at long last. Except
that the Yankees struggled to stay on top through the first half of 1964 . . . and a number of
disgruntled players found themselves a convenient outlet for their displeasure. Houk turned out to
be keeping his door open to anyone wanted to kvetch about Berra, who’d gone from teammate to
boss practically overnight, and who was struggling to establish his authority while his field strategies
(and, his seeming over-reliance on a rookie sinkerballer named Pete Mikkelsen out of the bullpen)
raised a few eyebrows and hackles.

By the time of the CBS sale it looked like there would be no Yankee pennant for only the third time
since 1949. The sale itself proved controversial: American League president Joe Cronin (himself a
Hall of Fame shortstop) tried to ram it through by way of a telephone/telegraph vote—against league
rules, which required a vote at an official, formal, in-person meeting unless the vote was known to
be unanimous in the making.

Two owners—Charlie Finley of the Kansas City Athletics, Arthur Allyn of the Chicago White Sox—
were opposed to the sale. Eight teams needed to approve the deal. Baltimore owner Joe Iglehart
was considered the swing vote . . .and Iglehart had one whale of a conflict of interest: he not only
owned the Orioles, he chaired CBS’s Financial Board and owned considerable enough CBS stock.
He ended up voting to approve the sale and unloading his Oriole ownership posthaste.

Which was nothing compared to the devious double switch the Yankees cooked up for Yogi Berra.
The Yankees were still struggling at the time of the CBS deal, and Houk decided he was going to
dump Berra at season’s end no matter how it ended. He even had a potential successor lined up,
unofficially: St. Louis Cardinals manager Johnny Keane.

The Cardinals, too, were struggling in 1964, despite the deal soon to become infamy in Chicago
lore: the swap of Cardinals pitcher Ernie Broglio to the Cubs for young outfielder Lou Brock, despite
warnings (mostly from Lew Burdette, another pitcher the Cubs acquired from the Cardinals earlier)
that Broglio’s arm was just about shot. The Cardinals had already dumped general manager Bing
Devine, and now they were thought to be flirting with Leo Durocher, then a Dodgers coach, as a
successor to Keane at season’s end.

What happened next upended just about everyone:

1) The infamous Philadelphia Phillies collapse (they had the pennant just about in the bank vault,
six games ahead of the pack, when they hit that notorious ten-game losing streak near September’s
end) opened the door for the Cardinals to end up the pennant winners on the regular season’s final
day—after they’d lost the first two of three in a season-ending set with the Mets, of all people.

2) With the aid of late-season callup Mel Stottlemyre (who went 9-3 with a 2.06 ERA down the stretch
 including a five-game winning streak) and veteran pickup Pedro Ramos (a journeyman starter who’d
save seven key games in September to shore up the Yankee pen), the Yankees moved into first place
to stay 17 September and managed to hold off serious challenges from two teams who almost killed
the CBS deal: the White Sox and the Orioles.

3) The Cardinals won the World Series in seven whacky games, crowned when Keane famously let Bob
Gibson finish what he started in Game Seven despite the Yankees threatening to tie it seven all in the
ninth inning in Busch Stadium (the former Sportsman’s Park). “I had a commitment to his heart,”
Keane said after the game.

4) The next day came the double switch:

a) Cardinals owner Gussie Busch called a press conference to announce Keane’s re-hiring, and Keane
responded by handing Busch his letter of resignation—Keane had been only too well aware of the
backchannel machinations at mid-season and was particularly miffed over Devine’s firing, Devine
having been a Keane mentor.

b) Berra went to the Yankee offices thinking he’d been called to start making plans for the 1965 season
and came out with his head in a guillotine’s catch basket. Bless his soul, Yogi had no clue to the wheeling
and dealing that preceded it, including the prospect of Keane, the man who’d just defeated him in the
World Series, becoming his successor, which is exactly what happened.

What nobody in the Yankee hierarchy ever explained satisfactorily was how the hell, if Berra was such a
horrible manager, the Yankees managed to win that pennant by winning thirty out of forty-three games,
including one eleven-game winning streak and fifteen of their final nineteen games.

The aftermath:

—Bing Devine ended 1964 getting himself hired by the Mets to succeed George Weiss, the former Yankee
general manager who’d become president of the newborn Mets for 1962. Devine would finish what Weiss
started, building the groundwork for shoring up the Mets’ farm system, reaching for more younger talent,
pitching in particular, and thus planting the seed that would become the 1969 Miracle Mets. The irony:
Devine also proved the master builder of the Cardinals’ 1964, 1967, and 1968 pennant winners (and two
World Series champions), even returning to the Cardinals after the 1967 World Series triumph when Stan
Musial decided he wasn’t comfortable being the team’s general manager.

---Red Schoendienst, once a Cardinals mainstay at second base and now a coach, was named the Cardinals'
new manager. He'd win pennants in 1967 and 1968 and a World Series in 1967.

—Yogi Berra also moved to the crosstown Mets, reuniting with former manager Stengel as first base coach.
Berra would hold that job until he was named the Mets’ manager following the unexpected death (his second
heart attack) of Gil Hodges in spring 1972. Berra would manage the Mets to an unlikely pennant in 1973—
they opened September last in the NL East, won the division at the last minute, just about, then took the
League Championship Series from the Cincinnati Reds before losing the Series in seven to Oakland—but be
fired in 1975 when the team’s 1970s collapse continued in earnest.

—Johnny Keane learned the hard way he’d taken on a white elephant in 1965. Mickey Mantle’s long-trouble-
some legs and hip finally caught up to him in earnest. (He probably should have retired after 1964; biographer
Jane Leavy isn’t the only one to point out the Yankees needed his box office appeal.) Whitey Ford’s hip and
then elbow became more bothersome. Jim Bouton developed arm trouble in 1965 that would reduce him
to journeyman relief work. (And, to writing Ball Four in due course.) Joe Pepitone, who broke in with
big promise in 1962, proved to be the shakiest Yankee with a morass of personal troubles that probably
tied to his Brooklyn boyhood as the son of a violently abusive father. The parched farm produced promising
minor leaguers who proved journeyman major leaguers at best; the best of the post-1964 Yankee products
proved to be Roy White, and he proved a long reliable but barely higher than journeyman player.
Unconscionably, too, the Yankees kept the true seriousness of a wrist injury (it turned out to be fractured,
sapping the man’s long ball power at last) from Roger Maris.

Also, Keane practised a typically National League style of run-and-gun, station-to-station baseball that didn’t
mesh with the Yankees’ having been built as always “to going for the big inning,” as Pepitone would phrase it.
(Bouton would call it “sacrificing a season to win a game.”) The Yankees finished 1965 in sixth place and
opened 1966 going 4-16. Keane was fired in favour of Ralph Houk, who’d had it with front office work; Houk
would manage the 1966 Yankees all the way to last place—a slot in the standings the franchise hadn’t seen
since 1912.

Keane accepted a scouting job with the Angels after the season—shortly before his unexpected death of a
heart attack. At age 55, and looking about twenty years older.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on October 04, 2017, 06:44:08 pm
@Machiavelli
He was a real dick and a definite racist. He's the damn fool who told Curt Flood and Bob Gibson
they'd never make it. It was after Hemus was succeeded by Johnny Keane that the Cardinals actively
began changing their racial culture with things like compelling hotels in spring training to allow black
and white and Hispanic players to stay in the same hotel and even room together if they chose.

St. Louis is still a confused city......
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 07, 2017, 12:23:05 am
Comedian Ralphie May dies at 45

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Ralphie_may.jpeg/443px-Ralphie_may.jpeg)

May, who suffered from morbid obesity for his entire adult life (partially because of an automobile accident as a teen), rose to fame in the early 2000s in the TV show Last Comic Standing. He went on to host a half-dozen stand-up TV specials, four for Comedy Central and two for Netflix.

May died from a heart attack coinciding with a bout with pneumonia. He is survived by an ex-wife and two young children, April June May and August May (no, that is not a joke).

Obituary from Variety (https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/comedian-ralphie-may-dies-at-45/ar-AAsZOz9?OCID=ansmsnnews11)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralphie_May)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RxDjs-W9Os
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on October 07, 2017, 02:08:01 am
Comedian Ralphie May dies at 45



@jmyrlefuller

I freely admit I didn't follow his career,but didn't he lose a BUNCH of weight after winning that tv show comedy contest?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 07, 2017, 02:23:32 am
@jmyrlefuller

I freely admit I didn't follow his career,but didn't he lose a BUNCH of weight after winning that tv show comedy contest?
Yes. He was still very big afterward (350 pounds) but he was HUGE beforehand (at one point he was up around 800 pounds).
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on October 07, 2017, 11:21:05 pm
Jim Landis, White Sox Gold Glove center fielder, dies at 83

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Jim Landis, who starred for the 1959 Go-Go White Sox and is considered one of the best defensive center fielders in major-league history, died Saturday in his hometown of Napa, Calif. He was 83.

Landis, who also played for the Kansas City Athletics, Cleveland Indians, Houston Astros, Detroit Tigers and Boston Red Sox during an 11-year career, retired in 1967 with a .989 career fielding percentage.

A recent ESPN ranking of the Top 50 players in White Sox history rated Landis at No. 27. In 2000, he was one of 27 players named by the White Sox to their All-Century Team. During his eight seasons with the Sox, Landis won five consecutive Gold Gloves and in 1962 was an AL All-Star. In 1963, he led the American League with a .993 fielding percentage.

More (https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/jim-landis-white-sox-gold-glove-center-fielder-dies-at-83/)

Wikipedia (https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/jim-landis-white-sox-gold-glove-center-fielder-dies-at-83/)

Career stats (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/landiji01.shtml)

@EasyAce
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on October 09, 2017, 12:47:07 pm
Gators fans tribute to Tom Petty.  Simply awesome!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNmf_zHIGQE
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on October 09, 2017, 04:38:46 pm
Pittsburgh music legend Jimmy Beaumont of the Skyliners dies at 76

The lead singer of the doo-wop group the Skyliners, who co-wrote the iconic ballad "Since I Don't Have You," has died. Jimmy Beaumont was 76.

Beaumont's family says he died in his sleep Saturday at his home in McKeesport, Pennsylvania.

Joe Rock would eventually manage the Skyliners. He was helping promote Beaumont's former group, the Crescents, when Rock wrote some lyrics lamenting his girlfriend's impending departure for flight attendants' school out of state. That was 1958, and Beaumont was 18.

Beaumont, of Pittsburgh, set the lyrics to music, and a hit was born.

The song has been covered by Barbra Streisand, Patti LaBelle, Art Garfunkel, Don McLean and even Guns N' Roses.

ttps://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/pittsburgh-music-legend-jimmy-beaumont-of-the-skyliners-dies-at-76/ar-AAt6Lf8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnTc7ZeR6p8



Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on October 09, 2017, 06:04:35 pm
NFL Legend Y.A. Tittle Dies at Age 90

Hall of Fame quarterback Y.A. Tittle died Sunday at age 90, LSU announced.

Before making the jump to pro football, Tittle played two seasons in Baton Rouge. After his time with the Tigers, Tittle played for the Baltimore Colts to start his 17-year pro career.

Tittle played in Baltimore for three years, before going to San Francisco for 10 seasons. While with the 49ers, Tittle had his first of three All-Pro seasons. He also earned his first of seven Pro Bowl nods.

When Tittle left San Francisco, he went to New York to play for the Giants for the last four seasons of his career.

He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1971.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/10/09/hall-fame-quarterback-ya-tittle-dies

Also see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y._A._Tittle



Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: dfwgator on October 09, 2017, 06:07:35 pm
Gators fans tribute to Tom Petty.  Simply awesome!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNmf_zHIGQE


Too bad the Gators' offense backed down afterwards.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on October 09, 2017, 06:15:34 pm
Pittsburgh music legend Jimmy Beaumont of the Skyliners dies at 76

The lead singer of the doo-wop group the Skyliners, who co-wrote the iconic ballad "Since I Don't Have You," has died. Jimmy Beaumont was 76.

Beaumont's family says he died in his sleep Saturday at his home in McKeesport, Pennsylvania.

Joe Rock would eventually manage the Skyliners. He was helping promote Beaumont's former group, the Crescents, when Rock wrote some lyrics lamenting his girlfriend's impending departure for flight attendants' school out of state. That was 1958, and Beaumont was 18.

Beaumont, of Pittsburgh, set the lyrics to music, and a hit was born.

The song has been covered by Barbra Streisand, Patti LaBelle, Art Garfunkel, Don McLean and even Guns N' Roses.

ttps://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/pittsburgh-music-legend-jimmy-beaumont-of-the-skyliners-dies-at-76/ar-AAt6Lf8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnTc7ZeR6p8
RIP. And thank you for the great followup to "Since I Don't Have You," which you also co-wrote . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koDc-zCxFpY

Trivia: "Since I Don't Have You" went higher on the black music chart of the time than on the pop chart:
it went number three R&B and number 12 pop. The Skyliners are sometimes considered to be the first doo-wop
group to show you didn't have to be black to sing credible R&B. They may also have been the first doo-wop
hitmakers whose ensemble included a woman (Janet Vogel, who did the falsetto voice) who wasn't the lead
voice.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on October 09, 2017, 07:45:18 pm
Thanks @EasyAce I knew you would remember the Skyliners, but wasn't sure anyone else would. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on October 09, 2017, 08:09:52 pm
Thanks @EasyAce I knew you would remember the Skyliners, but wasn't sure anyone else would.
They had me as a kid, the first time I heard "Since I Don't Have You" and "This I Swear."

I once had an album on Buddah called The Great Groups, a mini-anthology of the great
R&B vocal groups of the 1950s. The Skyliners were the only white group represented on the set,
which also included the Dells' underrated "Dreams of Contentment." The liner notes drove the
point home: "The Skyliners, from Pittsburgh, didn't borrow material from their black brothers
but learned the feeling."

Tragically, Janet Vogel, their magnificent female falsetto, was the first of the Skyliners to die---
she committed suicide in 1980 at age 37, on the same day she was to receive an award
recognising the group's achievements with her fellow Skyliners. She got into her car with
a pile of Skyliners memorabilia, opened the windows but not the garage door, and died of
carbon monoxide poisoning. The story is that her marriage was, shall we say, tumultuous---
she was married to a former Marine turned Pittsburgh cop whom their children have
described as overbearing and abusively controlling, and who disapproved violently of her
musical activities when the Skyliners re-formed in 1968.

Between that and her possibly have been bipolar, while also being driven to drug addiction in
the bargain, it may have been a small miracle that she lived as long as she did. (Her son, Gavin
Rapp, once found a note in a dresser drawer his mother wrote saying, "Please help me. I can't
live like this. I can't take this.) Apparently, too, her husband clashed with the Skyliners themselves
over assorted issues including money.

Which was a tragic finish for the woman who probably did the most to secure the Skyliners
their audition with Calico Records: told the label had finished auditions for the day when
they arrived late in the evening, Vogel broke to tears and begged the new label's heads to
listen to the group, who'd just written "Since I Don't Have You." (Beaumont wrote the music
to their manager Joe Rock's lyric, which was based on the man's girl friend leaving him to attend---
of all things---flight attendant school.) That did the trick, and the rest became history. It
was Rock who convinced the group to change their name from the Crescents: he shared
a love of jazz saxophonist Charlie Barnet's big band of the 1940s, and "Skyliner" was
Barent's theme song.

The only member of the Skyliners' original hitmaking lineup who is still alive is bass voice
Jackie Taylor.

Here's a Skyliners cut on which Janet Vogel actually took the lead . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcX4GyvMBXY
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on October 09, 2017, 09:59:26 pm
Donald Malarkey, WWII paratrooper portrayed in HBO's 'Band of Brothers,' dead at 96

Donald Malarkey, a World War II paratrooper who was awarded the Bronze Star after parachuting behind enemy lines at Normandy to destroy German artillery on D-Day, has died. He was 96.

Malarkey was one of several members of "Easy Company" to be widely portrayed in the HBO miniseries, "Band of Brothers." He died Sept. 30 in Salem, Oregon of age-related causes, his son-in-law John Hill said Sunday.

Malarkey fought fight across France, the Netherlands and Belgium and with Easy Company fought off Nazi advances while surrounded at Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge in December 1944.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/01/donald-malarkey-wwii-paratrooper-portrayed-in-hbo-miniseries-dead-at-96.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 09, 2017, 10:04:30 pm
Thanks @EasyAce for that info. I remember the group, too, mostly from If I Don't Have You. I was hoping with the Boy Bands that doo-wop would see a resurgence. Just not the same...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 09, 2017, 10:05:31 pm
Donald Malarkey, WWII paratrooper portrayed in HBO's 'Band of Brothers,' dead at 96

Donald Malarkey, a World War II paratrooper who was awarded the Bronze Star after parachuting behind enemy lines at Normandy to destroy German artillery on D-Day, has died. He was 96.

Malarkey was one of several members of "Easy Company" to be widely portrayed in the HBO miniseries, "Band of Brothers." He died Sept. 30 in Salem, Oregon of age-related causes, his son-in-law John Hill said Sunday.

Malarkey fought fight across France, the Netherlands and Belgium and with Easy Company fought off Nazi advances while surrounded at Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge in December 1944.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/01/donald-malarkey-wwii-paratrooper-portrayed-in-hbo-miniseries-dead-at-96.html
RIP, sir!   :patriot:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on October 09, 2017, 11:27:00 pm
RIP, sir!   :patriot:

AMEN!   :patriot:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on October 09, 2017, 11:30:15 pm
RIP, sir!   :patriot:


 :amen:  Enjoy the reunion!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 09, 2017, 11:42:14 pm

 :amen:  Enjoy the reunion!
That was my thought, too!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on October 10, 2017, 02:17:34 pm
Donald Malarkey, WWII paratrooper portrayed in HBO's 'Band of Brothers,' dead at 96

Donald Malarkey, a World War II paratrooper who was awarded the Bronze Star after parachuting behind enemy lines at Normandy to destroy German artillery on D-Day, has died. He was 96.

Malarkey was one of several members of "Easy Company" to be widely portrayed in the HBO miniseries, "Band of Brothers." He died Sept. 30 in Salem, Oregon of age-related causes, his son-in-law John Hill said Sunday.

Malarkey fought fight across France, the Netherlands and Belgium and with Easy Company fought off Nazi advances while surrounded at Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge in December 1944.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/01/donald-malarkey-wwii-paratrooper-portrayed-in-hbo-miniseries-dead-at-96.html
I sometimes wondered if this exchange was factual...RIP Trooper, God speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogq3S6jW76s
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on October 16, 2017, 12:06:58 am
RIchard Wilbur, poet laureate and Pulitzer Prize winner, dead at 96

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/15/obituaries/richard-wilbur-poet-laureate-and-pulitzer-winner-dies-at-96.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on October 17, 2017, 01:33:28 am
‘‘Trailer Park Boys’ actor John Dunsworth has died at the age of 71
 By Alexander Quon
Online Producer/Reporter    Global News
https://globalnews.ca/news/3806747/actor-john-dunsworth-has-died-at-the-age-of-71/

Actor John F. Dunsworth, best known for his portrayal of Jim Lahey in the comedy series Trailer Park Boys, has died at the age of 71.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on October 17, 2017, 02:19:16 am
‘‘Trailer Park Boys’ actor John Dunsworth has died at the age of 71
 By Alexander Quon
Online Producer/Reporter    Global News
https://globalnews.ca/news/3806747/actor-john-dunsworth-has-died-at-the-age-of-71/

Actor John F. Dunsworth, best known for his portrayal of Jim Lahey in the comedy series Trailer Park Boys, has died at the age of 71.

Oh s**t!!!!  Rest In Peace, Mr. Lahey. I can't imagine the show without you,
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on October 17, 2017, 03:17:23 pm
Roy Dotrice, Nimble British Actor Familiar on Both Sides of Atlantic, Dies at 94

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Roy Dotrice, a British stage, film and television actor who began performing as a prisoner of war in Germany and worked in Britain and America for six decades, notably in one-man shows portraying Abe Lincoln, the diarist John Aubrey and other historical figures, died on Monday at his home in London. He was 94...

While he kept a home in London, Mr. Dotrice lived in Los Angeles and worked mostly in the United States after 1980. He appeared in New York stage productions of Ibsen’s “An Enemy of the People” (1985) and Harold Pinter’s “The Homecoming” (1991). On film, he portrayed Mozart’s father in Milos Forman’s “Amadeus” (1984) and a skating coach in Paul M. Glaser’s “The Cutting Edge” (1992).

On television, he played Charles Dickens in Masterpiece Theater’s 13-part “Dickens of London” (1976); a British monarch in the mini-series “Shaka Zulu” (1986); the father of the beast on the CBS crime series “Beauty and the Beast” (1987-90); and a priest on the CBS dramatic series “Picket Fences” (1993-96). In recent years he recorded many audiobooks, creating voices for hundreds of characters in the saga adapted for “Game of Thrones.” ...
More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/16/obituaries/roy-dotrice-dead-veteran-actor-and-tony-winner.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Dotrice)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0234541/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on October 17, 2017, 03:41:47 pm
Roy Dotrice, Nimble British Actor Familiar on Both Sides of Atlantic, Dies at 94
More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/16/obituaries/roy-dotrice-dead-veteran-actor-and-tony-winner.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Dotrice)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0234541/)

@Machiavelli

Seems to me the man lived a full and successful life doing the things he loved doing. Good for him! We should all be so lucky.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on October 18, 2017, 10:50:03 am
Harriette Thompson, Oldest Woman to Finish a Marathon, Dies at 94
The concert pianist and late-in-life runner also set a half-marathon record in June.
By Sarah Lorge Butler Monday, October 16, 2017, 3:56 pm

Harriette Thompson, the irrepressible nonagenarian who in 2015 became the oldest woman to finish a marathon, died Monday in Charlotte, North Carolina. She was 94.

Thompson, a mother of five and a grandmother of 10, was injured in a fall on October 6, according to the Charlotte Observer. Her son, Brenneman Thompson, who ran alongside her during marathons, told the Observer she had been in hospice.

A two-time cancer survivor, Thompson was a regular at the San Diego Rock ’n’ Roll Marathon, running with Team in Training for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society. She started running the marathon in San Diego in 1999, and ran the race every year through 2015, except for 2003, when she was undergoing treatment for cancer. She raised more than $115,000 for cancer research through her efforts.    ...

More at Runners World (https://www.runnersworld.com/older-runners/harriette-thompson-oldest-woman-to-finish-a-marathon-dies-at-94)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on October 18, 2017, 11:13:09 am
Age 90+ + Falls= disaster.

Too bad science can't develop some kind of fall sensing bubble for at risk seniors.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on October 18, 2017, 11:49:39 am
You know, if I live to be 94 and I'm that mobile- wow.

Personally I don't think I'd live that long.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on October 18, 2017, 01:50:40 pm
You know, if I live to be 94 and I'm that mobile- wow.

Personally I don't think I'd live that long.

@Freya

Living that  long and being able to run Marathons isn't as  remarkable as living that long and not getting lost along with way because he forgot where she is and what she was doing.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 18, 2017, 02:50:13 pm
Gord Downie, lead singer of The Tragically Hip, dies at 53

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Gord_Howie_2013.jpg/220px-Gord_Howie_2013.jpg)

Downie was the lead singer of The Tragically Hip, a band that only achieved minor success in the United States but became icons in their home country of Canada. The Hip's heyday came in the 1990s, when they charted a string of hits on Canada's pop and rock charts.

Downie had been diagnosed with terminal glioblastoma in 2016, and the band's farewell tour following the diagnosis earned widespread national attention, including the Hip's final concert being televised live across Canada.

Obituary from the CBC (http://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/gord-downie-obit-1.4359906)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gord_Downie)

The Hip's biggest U.S. hit, "Courage (for Hugh MacLennan)"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhpezwGtDEg
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on October 23, 2017, 03:17:48 pm
Stan Kowalski: Wrestler, veteran, patriot, fundraiser ... friend to many

Quote
With the death of Stan "The Big K" or "Krusher" Kowalski on October 20, the world lost more than just a father, a World War II veteran, a tireless fundraiser, and a professional wrestler. It also lost a great friend.
More (http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Wrestling/2017/10/21/22760005.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Kowalski)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on October 23, 2017, 03:41:45 pm
Stan Kowalski: Wrestler, veteran, patriot, fundraiser ... friend to many
More (http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Wrestling/2017/10/21/22760005.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Kowalski)

Not to be confused with Walter "Killer" Kowalski, who died in 2008.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on October 23, 2017, 05:48:16 pm
AC/DC producer and Easybeats musician George Young dead at 70
OCTOBER 23 2017 - 5:33PM
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/acdc-musician-george-young-dead-at-70-20171023-gz6f8n.html

AC/DC producer and The Easybeats' star George Young has died at the age of 70.

AC/DC said in a statement the band would not exist without Young's "help and guidance".
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on October 23, 2017, 06:16:20 pm
I wouldn't trade one lick of this, the all-time TGIF rock and roll song . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ9BCrFgRvs

. . . or a lot of what the Easybeats did, for AC/DC's entire lame catalog.

RIP, Mr. Young. It's a shame your excellent taste didn't rub off on your kid brothers.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on October 24, 2017, 08:29:48 pm
Robert Guillaume, Star of ‘Benson,’ Dies at 89
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/robert-guillaume-dead-dies-benson-1202598171/

Emmy Award-winning actor Robert Guillaume, best known as the title character in the TV sitcom “Benson,” died Tuesday. He was 89.

His wife Donna Brown Guillaume told the Associated Press he died at their Los Angeles home of complications of prostate cancer.

[...]
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on October 24, 2017, 08:32:16 pm
Robert Guillaume, Star of ‘Benson,’ Dies at 89
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/robert-guillaume-dead-dies-benson-1202598171/

Emmy Award-winning actor Robert Guillaume, best known as the title character in the TV sitcom “Benson,” died Tuesday. He was 89.

His wife Donna Brown Guillaume told the Associated Press he died at their Los Angeles home of complications of prostate cancer.

[...]

He was a cool dude.  RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: edpc on October 24, 2017, 08:39:53 pm
Benson: grumble, grumble, grumble......

Kraus: I hear you!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on October 24, 2017, 08:49:09 pm
 9999hair out0000
He was a cool dude.  RIP.

Loved him on "soap"
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on October 24, 2017, 11:02:57 pm
Robert Guillaume had a heckuva singing voice. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0F3yYjcJU8&feature=youtu.be

Rest in peace.



Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on October 24, 2017, 11:09:29 pm
Robert Guillaume had a heckuva singing voice. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0F3yYjcJU8&feature=youtu.be

Rest in peace.

Yes, he did.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: debrawiest on October 24, 2017, 11:16:36 pm
Robert Guillaume had a heckuva singing voice. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0F3yYjcJU8&feature=youtu.be

Rest in peace.

Oh my. That was exhilarating! RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on October 24, 2017, 11:31:51 pm
Wow! I had forgotten how well he sang!

What year was that?

Classy guy. RIP.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on October 25, 2017, 12:28:12 am
9999hair out0000
Loved him on "soap"
@Freya

 :amen:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on October 25, 2017, 12:35:50 am
Wow! I had forgotten how well he sang!

What year was that?

Classy guy. RIP.

1990
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on October 25, 2017, 12:45:30 am
1990

Thanks! Absolutely outstanding!

He obviously took care of his voice.

He was 62 when that was recorded.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: verga on October 25, 2017, 01:40:49 am
Robert Guillaume had a heckuva singing voice. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0F3yYjcJU8&feature=youtu.be

Rest in peace.
Spectacular
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 25, 2017, 02:48:07 pm
Fats Domino dies at 89

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Fats_Domino_%281962%29.jpg/220px-Fats_Domino_%281962%29.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/President_George_W._Bush_shakes_the_hand_of_legendary_Fats_Domino%2C_wearing_a_National_Medal_of_Arts.jpg)

Antoine Domino, who spoke French as his native tongue, was born in Louisiana. In 1949, his record "The Fat Man" became a seminal song in the development of rock-and-roll; the record sold a million copies. Domino's heyday came in the mid-1950s as rock and roll entered the mainstream, with a cover of the 1940 song "Blueberry Hill" and his own compositions "Ain't That a Shame" and "I'm Walkin'" being some of his most enduring hits. Although he stopped charting hits when the British Invasion hit in 1964, Domino continued to tour extensively until about 1980, when he decided to retire to Louisiana.

Domino was erroneously believed dead when he decided to wait out Hurricane Katrina to tend to his ailing wife; he and his family in fact survived when he was rescued by helicopter. He suffered from various health issues in his last decade of life and died October 24.

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fats_Domino)

Obituary from NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/music/fats-domino-new-orleans-rock-pioneer-piano-prodigy-dies-89-n814186)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoNC1BF_nmo
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on October 25, 2017, 02:50:10 pm
Fats Domino dies at 89

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/President_George_W._Bush_shakes_the_hand_of_legendary_Fats_Domino%2C_wearing_a_National_Medal_of_Arts.jpg)

Developing...

No!  One of my all-time favorites.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on October 25, 2017, 02:50:33 pm
Fats Domino dies at 89

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/President_George_W._Bush_shakes_the_hand_of_legendary_Fats_Domino%2C_wearing_a_National_Medal_of_Arts.jpg)

Developing...

Ain't that a shame :( I hope there's a blueberry hill in heaven
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on October 25, 2017, 02:55:09 pm
No!  One of my all-time favorites.

Same here.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on October 25, 2017, 03:02:56 pm
Another of the greats from the 50s gone. 

Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on October 25, 2017, 03:36:17 pm
RIP Mr. Domino . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY3YhsEo1ck
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on October 25, 2017, 04:09:44 pm
Bad day for the greats of '28.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on October 25, 2017, 07:10:23 pm
One of my all time favorites and sweet memories from childhood.  My Dad (R.I.P.) used to play this when I was a kid ... "Blueberry Hill" came out the year I was born!!!  (Now ya'll know).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKQZy2PJtq8



Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on October 25, 2017, 07:12:15 pm
"Ain't that a Shame" !!!  .... What a great honky-tonk piano player!  Sing it Fats.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbCgz2RKIow
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on October 25, 2017, 07:16:27 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_--JV9gqbrg
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 25, 2017, 07:48:04 pm
Rats.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on October 25, 2017, 08:08:57 pm
Fats Domino dies at 89


Obituary from NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/music/fats-domino-new-orleans-rock-pioneer-piano-prodigy-dies-89-n814186)

 

@jmyrlefuller

That one hurts. IMHO,the Fat Man never really received the credit he deserves for making "that new-fangled rock and roll racket!" popular.

I never heard one single negative word about him personally,either.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on October 26, 2017, 05:50:57 am
@jmyrlefuller

That one hurts. IMHO,the Fat Man never really received the credit he deserves for making "that new-fangled rock and roll racket!" popular.

I never heard one single negative word about him personally,either.

He was one of the very best of the early crowd. Always Mr. Suave and Smooth.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 26, 2017, 07:05:28 am
He was one of the very best of the early crowd. Always Mr. Suave and Smooth.
He had class.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on October 26, 2017, 02:18:43 pm
 Wow. Another icon of my youth gone...... RIP Fats.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on October 26, 2017, 08:03:49 pm
Suzan Farmer
Hammer horror film actor who went on to take a variety of roles in popular television series, including Coronation Street, The Saint and Blake’s 7
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/oct/24/suzan-farmer-obituary

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/34a6fb9d9b66359d5e90ed5832233084239b9b5b/151_62_1575_945/master/1575.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=94a325ff3fd6ce8e9dba2d0cd7958483)
Suzan Farmer in The Saint, 1965. Photograph: ITV/Rex/Shutterstock

Suzan Farmer, who has died aged 75 of cancer, was a vocally precise actor with beguiling eyes who starred in a number of films for Hammer, the British company that specialised in memorable gothic horror.

In particular she was the heroine of Terence Fisher’s Dracula: Prince of Darkness (1966), the second of Hammer’s productions with Christopher Lee as the evil count. The target of the vampire’s lust, she bravely resisted him with the help of her screen husband Francis Matthews, before shooting the ice off a frozen moat and plunging Dracula into the freezing water below at the film’s climax. Farmer also provided, in post-production, the screams supposedly uttered by her co-star Barbara Shelley.

[...]
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on October 27, 2017, 12:41:57 am
Suzan Farmer
Hammer horror film actor who went on to take a variety of roles in popular television series, including Coronation Street, The Saint and Blake’s 7
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/oct/24/suzan-farmer-obituary

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/34a6fb9d9b66359d5e90ed5832233084239b9b5b/151_62_1575_945/master/1575.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=94a325ff3fd6ce8e9dba2d0cd7958483)
Suzan Farmer in The Saint, 1965. Photograph: ITV/Rex/Shutterstock

Suzan Farmer, who has died aged 75 of cancer, was a vocally precise actor with beguiling eyes who starred in a number of films for Hammer, the British company that specialised in memorable gothic horror.

In particular she was the heroine of Terence Fisher’s Dracula: Prince of Darkness (1966), the second of Hammer’s productions with Christopher Lee as the evil count. The target of the vampire’s lust, she bravely resisted him with the help of her screen husband Francis Matthews, before shooting the ice off a frozen moat and plunging Dracula into the freezing water below at the film’s climax. Farmer also provided, in post-production, the screams supposedly uttered by her co-star Barbara Shelley.

[...]
Interestingly enough, I just watched that flick a few days ago. One of the curious facts about the movie is that Dracula never utters a word of dialogue. Christopher Lee read the script before filming, and Dracula had dialogue.  Lee felt the dialogue wasn't worth it, so he never said anything as the count.  Just a lot of snarling.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 07, 2017, 09:43:53 pm
Major League Baseball pitcher Roy Halladay dies at 40

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Roy_Halladay_pitches_allison_full.jpg/382px-Roy_Halladay_pitches_allison_full.jpg)

Halladay spent 16 seasons in Major League Baseball, 12 of those with the Toronto Blue Jays and the rest with the Philadelphia Phillies. Halladay was one of the most respected pitchers of his time, appearing in eight All-Star Games and winning two Cy Young Awards (2003 and 2010, leading all of Major League Baseball in wins those years). Halladay was one of a select few pitchers in MLB history to throw a perfect game (May 29, 2010), one of two no-hitters he threw that year alone (the other being in the playoffs October 6).

Halladay's plane crashed into the Gulf of Mexico November 7.


News story from Rogers Sportsnet (Canada) (http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/former-blue-jays-pitcher-roy-halladay-dead-plane-crash/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Halladay)

Career statistics (https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=hallad001har)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: DCPatriot on November 07, 2017, 09:45:17 pm
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2017/11/7/16620412/roy-halladay-dead-plane-crash-florida-phillies-blue-jays (http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2017/11/7/16620412/roy-halladay-dead-plane-crash-florida-phillies-blue-jays)


Roy Halladay, former Phillies and Blue Jays pitcher, dies in Florida plane crash

The Pasco County Sheriff’s Office confirmed the sad news.
by Whitney McIntosh@WhitneyM02 Nov 7, 2017, 4:28pm EST

(http://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ndR3x0RNCfLuUGpST3sSX6Cb7UY=/0x0:3000x1998/920x613/filters:focal(981x406:1461x886)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/57507527/180911114.0.jpg)

Roy Halladay, who pitched in the major leagues for the Phillies and Blue Jays for 16 seasons from 1998 to 2013, was killed in a plane crash in Pasco County, Fla., on Tuesday afternoon.

The Pasco Country sheriff’s office confirmed the news in a press conference, saying that their “hearts and prayers go out to the family”, and that Halladay was a personal friend. That he “meant a lot to the sheriff’s office” and that they will be working with the family to provide any assistance they can.

Prior to the press conference, speculation about whether the victim of the crash was Halladay was tied to the tail number of the plane, which matched that of the plane he owned. He was an avid flyer, and less than a month ago was featured on Icon Aircraft’s website as the first person to receive a Model Year 2018 A5 plane.

more at above link....

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 09, 2017, 11:27:07 pm
LOS ANGELES — A spokeswoman for the family of actor John Hillerman says the co-star of TV’s “Magnum, P.I.” has died. Hillerman was 84.

Spokeswoman Lori De Waal said Hillerman died Thursday at his home in Houston. She said the cause of death has yet to be determined.

Hillerman played stuffy Jonathan Higgins to Tom Selleck’s free-wheeling private detective Thomas Magnum in the hit 1980s series set in Hawaii.

http://pix11.com/2017/11/09/magnum-p-i-actor-john-hillerman-dies-at-84/
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on November 09, 2017, 11:46:51 pm
LOS ANGELES — A spokeswoman for the family of actor John Hillerman says the co-star of TV’s “Magnum, P.I.” has died. Hillerman was 84.

Spokeswoman Lori De Waal said Hillerman died Thursday at his home in Houston. She said the cause of death has yet to be determined.j

Hillerman played stuffy Jonathan Higgins to Tom Selleck’s free-wheeling private detective Thomas Magnum in the hit 1980s series set in Hawaii.

http://pix11.com/2017/11/09/magnum-p-i-actor-john-hillerman-dies-at-84/

RIP
I loved him on "Ellery Queen" , he played Simon Brimmer
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on November 09, 2017, 11:59:44 pm
LOS ANGELES — A spokeswoman for the family of actor John Hillerman says the co-star of TV’s “Magnum, P.I.” has died. Hillerman was 84.

Spokeswoman Lori De Waal said Hillerman died Thursday at his home in Houston. She said the cause of death has yet to be determined.

Hillerman played stuffy Jonathan Higgins to Tom Selleck’s free-wheeling private detective Thomas Magnum in the hit 1980s series set in Hawaii.

http://pix11.com/2017/11/09/magnum-p-i-actor-john-hillerman-dies-at-84/

Rest in peace.  Loved Magnum PI.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: edpc on November 10, 2017, 12:06:51 am
LOS ANGELES — A spokeswoman for the family of actor John Hillerman says the co-star of TV’s “Magnum, P.I.” has died. Hillerman was 84.

Spokeswoman Lori De Waal said Hillerman died Thursday at his home in Houston. She said the cause of death has yet to be determined.

Hillerman played stuffy Jonathan Higgins to Tom Selleck’s free-wheeling private detective Thomas Magnum in the hit 1980s series set in Hawaii.

http://pix11.com/2017/11/09/magnum-p-i-actor-john-hillerman-dies-at-84/


He was the OG of the OMG!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N-hErL98ea0
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: debrawiest on November 10, 2017, 04:36:09 pm
Rest in peace.  Loved Magnum PI.

Ahhhhh.  Magnum PI. 

RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 10, 2017, 08:47:22 pm
The character Higgins was a great counterpoint to Selleck's character. Wonderfully done! Farewell, sir, thanks, and RIP!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on November 11, 2017, 04:49:43 pm
Chuck Mosley of Faith No More, R.I.P.

Thought he’d cleaned up.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on November 12, 2017, 02:05:23 am
Overwatch legend Dennis "INTERNETHULK" Hawelka dies at 30
The Overwatch community is in mourning.
Nicole Carpenter  Overwatch Staff Reporter
https://dotesports.com/overwatch/internethulk-passes-away-18591
(https://i.imgur.com/hsGEPkO.jpg)
Photo via Blizzard Entertainment

Former Team Liquid Overwatch coach Dennis "INTERNETHULK" Hawelka has passed away at the age of 30.

Hawelka's passing was confirmed on Twitter by Team Liquid owners Steve Arhancet and Victor Goossens. "We are in touch with his family, and are supporting them in every way we can while we all try to grasp the loss," the owners wrote. "We humbly ask everyone to respect his family's privacy during this difficult time."

Details of his death are currently unknown.

[...]

Friendly Memorial Tournament: https://go.twitch.tv/GOSUTV_OW
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on November 12, 2017, 11:21:41 pm
Gossip columnist Liz Smith dead at age 94

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/liz-smith-daily-news-gossip-columnist-dead-94-article-1.3628352

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/liz-smith-syndicated-gossip-columnist-dies-94-51103366

I can't imagine NYC papers without her. RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on November 14, 2017, 04:06:12 pm
Boston Red Sox great Bobby Doerr dies at 99 (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/red-sox-great-bobby-doerr-dies-99-122729860--mlb.html)

He was baseball's oldest living former major leaguer before his death; he was one of the
four Red Sox who were the subject of the late David Halberstam's lyrical ballad, The
Teammates
, about their lifelong friendship, and the last surviving member of the
foursome. (Ted Williams, Dominic DiMaggio, and Johnny Pesky were the others; the book
hooked around their journey to visit the dying Williams one more time, a trip Doerr
couldn't make because he was tending his MS-stricken wife full-time.)

He was a nine-time All Star whose record for most 100+ RBI seasons (six) stood until
fellow Hall of Famer Joe Morgan broke it with eight.

I'm writing an essay about Doerr which I'll publish later today.

RIP, Mr. Doerr. Give a tip of the beak to Messers. Williams, Pesky, and DiMaggio, and
may your reunion with your beloved Monica be as sweet as your lives on earth
together seem to have been.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on November 14, 2017, 05:17:38 pm
Boston Red Sox great Bobby Doerr dies at 99 (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/red-sox-great-bobby-doerr-dies-99-122729860--mlb.html)

Oh, wow...I hadn't realized he was still around!  Thanks for posting, @EasyAce.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 18, 2017, 03:02:06 pm
Malcolm Young, founder of AC/DC, dies at 64

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Malcolm_Young_at_ACDC_Monster_of_Rock_Tour.jpg)

Young was the rhythm guitarist for AC/DC, a group he established in 1973, and the older brother of lead guitarist and public face Angus Young. He remained with the band, keeping it alive after original lead singer Bon Scott died in 1980, and seamlessly transitioned the band from its hard-rock punk days under Scott to the stadium rock phenomenon it would become under Brian Johnson. Young's drinking problems eventually caught up with him around 2010, when he started experiencing symptoms of dementia; he was eventually forced to leave the band permanently in 2014 because of his worsening state.

Malcolm Young's death comes less than a month after his older brother George Young died of unrelated causes.

Obituary from News Corp (http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/acdc-cofounder-and-guitarist-malcolm-young-dead-at-64/news-story/9b92f92e9c9b336e4ec9b983c1d932c2)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Young)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on November 18, 2017, 03:15:32 pm
Bummer.  AC/DC was  one of my favorite bands years ago. 

Rest in peace, Mr. Young.i
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on November 18, 2017, 03:32:07 pm
Oh, wow...I hadn't realized he was still around!  Thanks for posting, @EasyAce.
Doerr's death now leaves Red Schoendienst as baseball's oldest living Hall of Famer.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on November 18, 2017, 03:38:44 pm
Doerr's death now leaves Red Schoendienst as baseball's oldest living Hall of Famer.
I saw Schoendienst hit a home run against the Dodgers at Milwaukee County Stadium in June 1960. It was his only homer of the season. I was ten years old, and my dad let me go right up to the railing with the family camera. I took about five or six pictures of Don Drysdale pitching to Eddie Matthews.
They turned out perfect.  And they're all lost. One of my biggest regrets about things I've lost...maybe the biggest.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on November 18, 2017, 03:47:31 pm
Bummer.  AC/DC was  one of my favorite bands years ago. 

Rest in peace, Mr. Young.i

Sick too.  First Tom Petty a short time ago, now this.

And I'll go into a major funk if any member of Rush passes.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on November 18, 2017, 04:12:55 pm
Sick too.  First Tom Petty a short time ago, now this.

And I'll go into a major funk if any member of Rush passes.

Me too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: edpc on November 18, 2017, 04:49:21 pm
@catfish1957
@Freya


What......John Rutsey doesn’t count?  He died in 2008.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 18, 2017, 04:59:49 pm
@catfish1957
@Freya


What......John Rutsey doesn’t count?  He died in 2008.

He left Rush in '74.  He was their Peter Best.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on November 18, 2017, 05:08:17 pm
He left Rush in '74.  He was their Peter Best.
Not quite. He left the band himself, over music differences and health issues. (He was a diabetic.)
For years, too, he maintained a friendship with Rush guitarist Alex Lifeson; they worked out in the
same gym together. Pete Best was a whole 'nother smoke . . .
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 18, 2017, 05:22:55 pm
Not quite. He left the band himself, over music differences and health issues. (He was a diabetic.)
For years, too, he maintained a friendship with Rush guitarist Alex Lifeson; they worked out in the
same gym together. Pete Best was a whole 'nother smoke . . .

I agree my analogy was imperfect.  Rush would probably break up completely today if anybody left.  They're a pretty tight-knit bunch.  Eh? 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on November 18, 2017, 05:47:13 pm
I agree my analogy was imperfect.  Rush would probably break up completely today if anybody left.  They're a pretty tight-knit bunch.  Eh?
They must have been to spend almost a century together.

You could say likewise for ZZ Top.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on November 19, 2017, 05:01:40 pm
Mel Tillis has passed away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JXG0e-Yh2M
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 19, 2017, 05:09:09 pm
Commentator Robert E. Raiford dies at 89

Raiford was one of the last radio commentators of his era, serving as a broadcaster for over 70 years, beginning as a teenager in 1944 and culminating with a stroke in 2015. A serious newsman up through the 1960s, a drunken prank led to him losing his job with CBS Radio and he wound up back in Charlotte, North Carolina, where he had spent much of his early career.

His talk show on a local Charlotte TV station was noticed by local shock jocks John Boy and Billy, who felt the self-admitted curmudgeonly liberal with a strong distaste for political correctness would be a perfect fit as the show's newsman. When the show went national, Raiford's commentaries likewise were included.

Obituary from the Charlotte Observer (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article185187083.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_D._Raiford)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 19, 2017, 05:17:29 pm
Mel Tillis has passed away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JXG0e-Yh2M

Mel Tillis, Country Music Hall of Famer, dies at 85

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Mel_Tillis.jpg/220px-Mel_Tillis.jpg)

Tillis was left with a stammer as a result of a bout with malaria as a child, but it never affected his singing voice. He held a number of blue-collar jobs early in his life before moving to Nashville in 1957 and breaking into the music industry. He enjoyed success both as a songwriter and as a singer, with his greatest heyday being in the 1970s, when he had a string of chart-topping country hits. He parlayed this success into mainstream popularity with an acting career and frequent appearances on the game show Hollywood Squares.

Like most other country singers, Tillis's career (although it had already begun to fade in the late 1980s) was sidelined in 1991 when a new brand of country rose to popularity. While his career faded, his daughter Pam would go on to become a country star in the new style herself. (Ironically, Pam would be inducted into the Grand Ole Opry before her father did, and Pam herself nominated Mel to the Opry in 2007.) He continued to record up until the early 2010s, recording a hit comedy album as recently as 2010.

Tillis died from complications from a January 2016 surgery that never healed properly.

Obituary from The Tennessean (http://www.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/music/2017/11/19/mel-tillis-dead-country-music-hall-famer/852933001/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Tillis)

Discography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Tillis_discography)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muNDdYMKVMc
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on November 19, 2017, 05:25:28 pm
Not quite. He left the band himself, over music differences and health issues. (He was a diabetic.)
For years, too, he maintained a friendship with Rush guitarist Alex Lifeson; they worked out in the
same gym together. Pete Best was a whole 'nother smoke . . .

Well, the best to the late Mr. Rutsey, but Rush without the often acknowledged greatest Rock Drummer of all time?

Would not be near the same legacy that Rush has garnished.
(http://andrewolson.com/Neil_Peart/drums/images/img25.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on November 19, 2017, 06:00:26 pm
We can say goodbye to Keith Partridge, as well.

Geez...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on November 19, 2017, 06:01:18 pm
Mel Tillis, Country Music Hall of Famer, dies at 85

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Mel_Tillis.jpg/220px-Mel_Tillis.jpg)

Tillis was left with a stammer as a result of a bout with malaria as a child, but it never affected his singing voice. He held a number of blue-collar jobs early in his life before moving to Nashville in 1957 and breaking into the music industry. He enjoyed success both as a songwriter and as a singer, with his greatest heyday being in the 1970s, when he had a string of chart-topping country hits. He parlayed this success into mainstream popularity with an acting career and frequent appearances on the game show Hollywood Squares.

Like most other country singers, Tillis's career (although it had already begun to fade in the late 1980s) was sidelined in 1991 when a new brand of country rose to popularity. While his career faded, his daughter Pam would go on to become a country star in the new style herself. (Ironically, Pam would be inducted into the Grand Ole Opry before her father did, and Pam herself nominated Mel to the Opry in 2007.) He continued to record up until the early 2010s, recording a hit comedy album as recently as 2010.

Tillis died from complications from a January 2016 surgery that never healed properly.

Obituary from The Tennessean (http://www.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/music/2017/11/19/mel-tillis-dead-country-music-hall-famer/852933001/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Tillis)

Discography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Tillis_discography)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muNDdYMKVMc

 8888crybaby

I was just watching a video of the "Old Dogs" last night. Just a casual chat session with Mel Tillis, Jerry Reed, Waylon Jennings, Jimmy Dean and Bobby Bare. Now Bare is the only one still alive. They're all leaving us.  **nononono* Thank God for YouTube.
 


Country Legends Cavalcade - Glen Campbell, Johnny Cash, Buck Owens, Mel Tillis, Merle Haggard, Jerry Reed, Freddie Hart & More
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO7cbxwi3cU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO7cbxwi3cU)
Queue up to 38:34 for a fun session with the whole gang.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2017, 06:04:43 pm
We can say goodbye to Keith Partridge, as well.

Geez...

May as well, as long as he can remember what it means.  He appears to have that one foot keeping him out of the grave on a banana peel.  My MIL died from Dementia, and my own Dad is being slowly stolen from us as well.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on November 19, 2017, 06:06:05 pm
May as well, as long as he can remember what it means.  He appears to have that one foot keeping him out of the grave on a banana peel.  My MIL died from Dementia, and my own Dad is being slowly stolen from us as well.

David Cassidy died today.

His is another one of those deaths that make you aware of the passage of time.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2017, 06:23:41 pm
David Cassidy died today.

His is another one of those deaths that make you aware of the passage of time.

Los of stories on Google about it's being imminent, but the only entry that says for sure he's left us is Wiki.  Wouldn't be surprised of it's happened already, though.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on November 19, 2017, 06:25:53 pm
Los of stories on Google about it's being imminent, but the only entry that says for sure he's left us is Wiki.  Wouldn't be surprised of it's happened already, though.

I saw it trending on FB but its no longer there.

Maybe someone jumped the gun.

C'mon get happy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on November 19, 2017, 07:20:47 pm
David Cassidy died today.

His is another one of those deaths that make you aware of the passage of time.

So far, Cassidy is still alive and in ICU.  But organ failure indicates his condition is grave.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on November 19, 2017, 07:23:19 pm
Growing up, I remember seeing Mel Tillis on numerous talk and variety shows -- Mike Douglas Show, in particular.  His stutter didn't affect his musical talent. 

Rest in peace, Mr. Tillis.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on November 19, 2017, 07:25:48 pm
Last story I have regarding David Cassidy:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/david-cassidy-moved-icu-condition-worsens-article
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on November 19, 2017, 09:26:52 pm
Earle Hyman, Russell Huxtable on ‘Cosby Show,’ dead at 91

Earle Hyman, best known as Russell Huxtable on “The Cosby Show” died Friday.

He was 91.

Hyman died at the Lillian Booth Actors Home in Englewood, N.J., according to the Hollywood Reporter.

The longtime actor played Cliff Huxtable’s (Bill Cosby) father on 40 episodes over the show’s nine-season run, earning him a 1986 Emmy nomination for Outstanding Guest Performer in a Comedy Series.

Excerpt.  Read more at:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/earle-hyman-russell-huxtable-cosby-show-dead-91-article-1.3644200

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on November 19, 2017, 09:30:55 pm
Is it me, or does there seem to be an unbelievable amount of celebrities passing this year?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on November 19, 2017, 09:45:52 pm
Is it me, or does there seem to be an unbelievable amount of celebrities passing this year?

What I'm noticing is how many of those leaving us are young.  Now, I think those in their 60s are young because that's my age bracket.  But so many are dying even younger. 

What was that about the average life expectancy is increasing?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on November 19, 2017, 10:03:02 pm
Is it me, or does there seem to be an unbelievable amount of celebrities passing this year?

It seems to me that a bunch of rockers and actors in my general age category are dying, probably due to complications from drug and alcohol abuse when they were young and foolish back in the 60's and 70's.

(Or perhaps old and foolish much more recently.......)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on November 19, 2017, 10:03:50 pm
What I'm noticing is how many of those leaving us are young.  Now, I think those in their 60s are young because that's my age bracket.  But so many are dying even younger. 

What was that about the average life expectancy is increasing?

Apparently only if one takes care of one's body.  (And mind and soul).
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on November 19, 2017, 11:02:21 pm
Is it me, or does there seem to be an unbelievable amount of celebrities passing this year?

Maybe, but to me it still doesn't seem to have matched how many passed in 2016. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 19, 2017, 11:03:06 pm
Apparently only if one takes care of one's body.  (And mind and soul).
@musiclady  @Applewood

I guess it never occurred to either of you that they may have had more fun before they were 40 than most people would have if they lived to be 200 BECAUSE they took chances?

Life is for living,not enduring.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: dfwgator on November 19, 2017, 11:07:14 pm
Is it me, or does there seem to be an unbelievable amount of celebrities passing this year?

Because of the promulgation of television in the 1960s, the number of celebrities ballooned over that time, now they are hitting their 70s and 80s, so it stands to reason why the number of celebrity deaths are much higher than before.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 19, 2017, 11:13:12 pm
Because of the promulgation of television in the 1960s, the number of celebrities ballooned over that time, now they are hitting their 70s and 80s, so it stands to reason why the number of celebrity deaths are much higher than before.

@dfwgator

Plus so many of US are hitting those numbers ourselves that we pay more attention to the deaths now than we used to. After all,how often do you remember seeing people in their teens or 20's reading obits?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on November 19, 2017, 11:19:44 pm
@musiclady  @Applewood

I guess it never occurred to either of you that they may have had more fun before they were 40 than most people would have if they lived to be 200 BECAUSE they took chances?

Life is for living,not enduring.

Well, I can tell you that I have lived well and had great fun my entire life, taking care of myself, and I'm still feeling great at nearly 70.

On top of that, I can actually remember all the fun I had, and never did anything stupid because I wasn't in control of my faculties.

It's not a wise choice to destroy your present and your future in the name of "fun."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2017, 11:23:50 pm
I blew up a crap ton of anthills.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on November 19, 2017, 11:31:20 pm
@dfwgator

Plus so many of US are hitting those numbers ourselves that we pay more attention to the deaths now than we used to. After all,how often do you remember seeing people in their teens or 20's reading obits?
Turning 70 or more:

Elton John, Eric Clapton, Alice Cooper, Stevie Nicks, Bonnie Raitt, Ringo Starr, Paul Williams, Joe Walsh,  and many more well known performers.

What do they have in common? Long term sobriety. (Or it would have likely killed them long ago.)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on November 19, 2017, 11:39:31 pm
@dfwgator

Plus so many of US are hitting those numbers ourselves that we pay more attention to the deaths now than we used to. After all,how often do you remember seeing people in their teens or 20's reading obits?

I remember when Gary Cooper, Clark Gable, Nelson Eddy and Jeanette MacDonald (and many others) died, and I was just a kid.

Lots of stars died early then too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on November 19, 2017, 11:47:50 pm
Last story I have regarding David Cassidy:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/david-cassidy-moved-icu-condition-worsens-article


My generations Justin Bieber
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on November 20, 2017, 12:04:20 am
@musiclady  @Applewood

I guess it never occurred to either of you that they may have had more fun before they were 40 than most people would have if they lived to be 200 BECAUSE they took chances?

Life is for living,not enduring.

Yeah, but some of these people did a little too much living, too fast and it seems their bodies couldn't take it. 

But who knows why all that fast living and risk taking kills some people so young, while others seem to go on and on?  Look at Willie Nelson.  That guy should have been dead a long time ago, but he's in his 80s and still touring.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2017, 12:58:24 am
Well, I can tell you that I have lived well and had great fun my entire life, taking care of myself, and I'm still feeling great at nearly 70.

On top of that, I can actually remember all the fun I had, and never did anything stupid because I wasn't in control of my faculties.

It's not a wise choice to destroy your present and your future in the name of "fun."

@musiclady

I am now in my 7th decade of excellence,and have lived damn near my entire life wide-open. Enlisted in the army as "airborne unassigned" on my 17th birthday,volunteered for VN,volunteered for SOG/recon missions into Laos and Cambodia,and volunteered to extend my tour another 6 months.

If I ever wanted to do anything,I pretty much did it without giving any thought as to consequences,and as a result have led a life with a lot of adventures,some of which I enjoyed more than others. Still,I took the chance and always ended up learning something in the process.

I made some mistakes,some of them painful,but the only ones I regret at all are the mistakes I made that may have inadvertently caused harm or grief to others by accident. Not all the time,mind you. Some of those SOB's deserved everything that happened to them,and I take joy at having been able to dish it out to them.

When I lay dying,I won't be listing regrets over roads  untraveled in my mind,and genuinely feel sorry for those who lived their lives wearing red and marching in straight lines so they could be cogs in the machine and never have to take any chances. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on November 20, 2017, 01:17:13 am
Yeah, but some of these people did a little too much living, too fast and it seems their bodies couldn't take it. 

But who knows why all that fast living and risk taking kills some people so young, while others seem to go on and on?  Look at Willie Nelson.  That guy should have been dead a long time ago, but he's in his 80s and still touring.

I honestly believe that pot is helping Willie to obtain his longevity ...just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: corbe on November 20, 2017, 01:23:33 am
   That's some deep $hit @sneakypete, thanks for sharing

    Your morsel below I find myself using when answering my family's questions about my current lifestyle.

    Don't remember when, for me, it became about Quality NOT Quantity but no regrets, I'm happy and I'm not hurting anyone other than myself and possibly @Frank Cannon with my stupid Polls, Life is Good.
@musiclady  @Applewood

I guess it never occurred to either of you that they may have had more fun before they were 40 than most people would have if they lived to be 200 BECAUSE they took chances?

Life is for living,not enduring.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on November 20, 2017, 01:40:03 am
@musiclady

I am now in my 7th decade of excellence,and have lived damn near my entire life wide-open. Enlisted in the army as "airborne unassigned" on my 17th birthday,volunteered for VN,volunteered for SOG/recon missions into Laos and Cambodia,and volunteered to extend my tour another 6 months.

If I ever wanted to do anything,I pretty much did it without giving any thought as to consequences,and as a result have led a life with a lot of adventures,some of which I enjoyed more than others. Still,I took the chance and always ended up learning something in the process.

I made some mistakes,some of them painful,but the only ones I regret at all are the mistakes I made that may have inadvertently caused harm or grief to others by accident. Not all the time,mind you. Some of those SOB's deserved everything that happened to them,and I take joy at having been able to dish it out to them.

When I lay dying,I won't be listing regrets over roads  untraveled in my mind,and genuinely feel sorry for those who lived their lives wearing red and marching in straight lines so they could be cogs in the machine and never have to take any chances.

Your mistake is in thinking that people who don't do drugs, live lascivious lives or get drunk a lot live boring lives.

Not so.   Not even close.

I too have lived a life of adventure, and have taken chances........... and remember every moment of it.

No regrets.  No agonizing over life not lived well.

And definitely not wishing that, like Jack Cassidy, I burned myself to death in a drunken stupor.

Don't feel sorry for those of us who choose different kinds of adventure........... especially those of us who are still healthy enough to keep having them when our wild and reckless peers are dropping like flies.  ^-^
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on November 20, 2017, 01:53:15 am
@musiclady  @Applewood

I guess it never occurred to either of you that they may have had more fun before they were 40 than most people would have if they lived to be 200 BECAUSE they took chances?

Life is for living,not enduring.

I guess it never occurred to a lot of people that there are those who can and do enjoy life (or as you refer to it, "have fun") by making intelligent choices about their lives. I'm always befuddled when people equate drinking (or drugging) with fun. Since I'm not sure what you are saying by your post, maybe we are talking past each other, but one thing I know for sure: One can live a life rich and full without having to alter their mind with a substance. It's also a good demonstration to kids who are watching adults (and they always are) for cues on how to function as an adult. If they can witness that substances aren't required in order to enjoy life, they can believe that sobriety is a valid choice when others try to tempt them with alcohol or drugs.

Good judgment isn't only limited to substances, either. Kids observe how adults comport themselves, whether they keep their word to others, whether they're kind or critical, whether they're moral, whether they're responsible, etc. Kids are always receiving messages from the adults around them even if they're not totally aware of it. If we could just manage to raise a good generation of kids into highly functioning adults, maybe there would be hope for this nation. Instead, we become less functional with every passing generation.

I wised up a little later than I would have preferred but I was still quite young. Never, for a single moment -- not even a nano-second -- did I have the sense that I was enduring life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og8dVo2WY1U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og8dVo2WY1U)

@musiclady

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on November 20, 2017, 01:56:37 am
I honestly believe that pot is helping Willie to obtain his longevity ...just my humble opinion.

Based on...???
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on November 20, 2017, 02:08:46 am
Projection. Look around you. There are more old drunks running around than there are old preachers. How many people,other than Cassidy,do you know of that burned up in a drunken stupor,most likely from a lit cigarette?
You ever heard of Steve Marriott?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on November 20, 2017, 02:12:29 am
You ever heard of Steve Marriott?

Yes, what a voice!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on November 20, 2017, 02:13:24 am
@sneakypete says:
Quote
Projection. Look around you. There are more old drunks running around than there are old preachers.

Prove it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: berdie on November 20, 2017, 02:18:15 am
Yeah, but some of these people did a little too much living, too fast and it seems their bodies couldn't take it. 

But who knows why all that fast living and risk taking kills some people so young, while others seem to go on and on?  Look at Willie Nelson.  That guy should have been dead a long time ago, but he's in his 80s and still touring.

Or Keith Richards...who chuckles every time someone goes down...and he's still standing.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on November 20, 2017, 02:18:39 am
Also dead in a house fire where alcohol may have been involved: Beverly Wills, actress and
daughter of comedienne Joan Davis. Two years after Davis died, Wills, her two children, and
her grandmother (Davis's mother) died in a house fire.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on November 20, 2017, 02:22:36 am
@sneakypete says:
Prove it.

You have a lifetime??   ^-^
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on November 20, 2017, 02:24:42 am
You have a lifetime??   ^-^

You're right! What was I thinking?! :thud:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on November 20, 2017, 02:25:30 am
You're right! What was I thinking?! :thud:

 888high58888
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2017, 02:32:58 am
You ever heard of Steve Marriott?

@EasyAce

Don't think so. Is he the 2nd guy you know that burnt up?

How many suicides do  you know of?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on November 20, 2017, 02:35:23 am
@EasyAce

Don't think so. Is he the 2nd guy you know that burnt up?

How many suicides do  you know of?
I mentioned also what happened to comedienne Joan Davis's daughter, grandchildren, and mother in a
house fire almost two years after Davis died.

Don't get me started on suicides . . .
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on November 20, 2017, 02:36:03 am
You ever heard of Steve Marriott?

Absolutely!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4a8AfR8kuI
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2017, 02:43:44 am
You have a lifetime??   ^-^


@musiclady @AllThatJazzZ

Something happened. It was "AllThatJazz" that wrote "prove it",not me.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 20, 2017, 02:47:51 am
@musiclady


The leading cause of death is life.

You are coming up with some great quotes tonight @sneakypete  I like the one above and "life is for living, not enduring".

Keep 'em coming.   ^-^
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod2 on November 20, 2017, 03:01:43 am
Enough. If you're not posting information about notable recent deaths, take your discussion elsewhere. Stay on topic.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod2 on November 20, 2017, 03:08:58 am
Perhaps I should have written bigger.
Get off the topic of insulting one another. Now.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on November 20, 2017, 03:17:28 am
Perhaps I should have written bigger.
Get off the topic of insulting one another. Now.

When I started my typing my reply, you hadn't yet posted. Sorry.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 20, 2017, 03:49:41 am
@dfwgator

Plus so many of US are hitting those numbers ourselves that we pay more attention to the deaths now than we used to. After all,how often do you remember seeing people in their teens or 20's reading obits?
We did, just to see who made it through last week...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: montanajoe on November 20, 2017, 04:02:12 am
Geez I sometimes wonder why I come here ...every thread is the same few folks same thing... I hate you you hate me.. :shrug:

BTW Mel Tillis died today..

His concerts were great...outstanding band backing him up and the self depreciating hu...mmmm..hu..mmmm..or...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on November 20, 2017, 04:03:11 am
Absolutely!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4a8AfR8kuI
I liked him way better when he was the front man for . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtU62SEzXq4
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on November 20, 2017, 04:10:42 am
I liked him way better when he was the front man for . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtU62SEzXq4

Wow ... I heard that song a long, long, long time ago and had no idea it was him!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2017, 04:43:43 am
We did, just to see who made it through last week...

@Smokin Joe

I didn't. I don't think I even watched 15 minutes of television in 15  years on purpose. I would sometimes be at someone's house that had the tv on,but if they were engrossed in watching it I would leave and go somewhere else. I don't think tv was as good back in the 60's as it is now,but that wasn't even why I didn't watch it. I just had things to do that interested me more.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on November 20, 2017, 05:01:52 am
I liked him way better when he was the front man for . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtU62SEzXq4

His daughter; Mollie Mariott

www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3hM-hP18WQ

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on November 20, 2017, 05:29:20 am
His daughter; Mollie Mariott

www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3hM-hP18WQ
I like that!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 20, 2017, 05:56:18 am
@Smokin Joe

I didn't. I don't think I even watched 15 minutes of television in 15  years on purpose. I would sometimes be at someone's house that had the tv on,but if they were engrossed in watching it I would leave and go somewhere else. I don't think tv was as good back in the 60's as it is now,but that wasn't even why I didn't watch it. I just had things to do that interested me more.
I was referring to the people we knew, especially the ones our age. County paper came out once a week. The obituaries were where we found out who had done something termianlly stupid, unlucky, or just passed on.

I didn't watch much of the three channels of TV we could get (black and white), most of that news, and most of that lies, and paid little attention to movies, as the nearest theater was 25 miles away. We had plenty else to do.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on November 20, 2017, 06:01:09 am
Ladies and gentlemen,

I want to announce that Charles Manson has died.

Breaking story .


https://news.sky.com/story/former-cult-leader-charles-manson-dies-aged-83-11135217

May the families of Sharon Tate, Abigail Folger, The La Bianca's , Jay Sebring, Steve Parent, and Wojiech Frykowski finally know peace
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on November 20, 2017, 06:10:14 am
Posted in obits.

Thought people might not see it.

https://news.sky.com/story/former-cult-leader-charles-manson-dies-aged-83-11135217

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2017, 06:11:08 am
Ladies and gentlemen,

I want to announce that Charles Manson has died.

Breaking story .


https://news.sky.com/story/former-cult-leader-charles-manson-dies-aged-83-11135217

May the families of Sharon Tate, Abigail Folger, The La Bianca's , Jay Sebring, Steve Parent, and Wojiech Frykowski finally know peace

Just  saw that.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on November 20, 2017, 06:11:33 am
Ladies and gentlemen,

I want to announce that Charles Manson has died.

Breaking story .


https://news.sky.com/story/former-cult-leader-charles-manson-dies-aged-83-11135217

May the families of Sharon Tate, Abigail Folger, The La Bianca's , Jay Sebring, Steve Parent, and Wojiech Frykowski finally know peace
I have never wished a man dead, but I have read a great many obituaries with a great deal of pleasure.---Clarence Darrow.

May Manson's victims' families know peace at last, may his victims rest in peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on November 20, 2017, 06:12:08 am
Just  saw that.

I made another thread, mods can merge if they want.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2017, 06:20:10 am
Posted in obits.

Thought people might not see it.

https://news.sky.com/story/former-cult-leader-charles-manson-dies-aged-83-11135217

Well, bye Charlie.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 20, 2017, 06:27:24 am
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/54/90/ce/5490ceaa00a4ea3150af47949ef36281--condolence-messages-condolences-quotes.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: NavyCanDo on November 20, 2017, 12:30:01 pm
Hope his long serious illness was a painful one. Like kidney stones the size of golf balls being passed each day.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on November 20, 2017, 12:44:28 pm
I have never wished a man dead, but I have read a great many obituaries with a great deal of pleasure.---Clarence Darrow.

May Manson's victims' families know peace at last, may his victims rest in peace.

I'll repeat that.  Wasn't sure what to say.  May God have some mercy on his soul.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on November 20, 2017, 12:45:55 pm
What is pathetic is that most young people probably never heard of Charles Manson and if they did, they would not be as shocked and appalled by him as we older folks still are after all these years.  Daily murders in Chicago, the almost endless mass shootings and terrorists blowing up public facilities -- al have desensitized the young.  Violent Hollywood movies and TV contribute to that apathy.  Gruesome violence has almost become normal to the younger generation.    They might even think the Tate-LaBianca murders are tame by comparison to the violence of today.

I could wish Manson rest in peace and pray for his soul, but I just can't.  He's in God's hands now and I'll let Him judge Manson as He sees fit.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on November 20, 2017, 12:52:48 pm
I was thinking it might be a good thing if Manson's brain could be analyzed now that he's dead.  Maybe we could get some insight into what was behind his murderous rampage and his looney tunes behavior. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: 240B on November 20, 2017, 12:57:29 pm
Manson died years ago. His body was just a husk, a frame, with no life inside.
The guy had no idea who or what he was, or even what death is. It was too good for him, IMO.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 20, 2017, 01:13:59 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD7JIIAUwAAZh0q.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: verga on November 20, 2017, 01:16:00 pm
I guess it never occurred to a lot of people that there are those who can and do enjoy life (or as you refer to it, "have fun") by making intelligent choices about their lives. I'm always befuddled when people equate drinking (or drugging) with fun. Since I'm not sure what you are saying by your post, maybe we are talking past each other, but one thing I know for sure: One can live a life rich and full without having to alter their mind with a substance. It's also a good demonstration to kids who are watching adults (and they always are) for cues on how to function as an adult. If they can witness that substances aren't required in order to enjoy life, they can believe that sobriety is a valid choice when others try to tempt them with alcohol or drugs.

Good judgment isn't only limited to substances, either. Kids observe how adults comport themselves, whether they keep their word to others, whether they're kind or critical, whether they're moral, whether they're responsible, etc. Kids are always receiving messages from the adults around them even if they're not totally aware of it. If we could just manage to raise a good generation of kids into highly functioning adults, maybe there would be hope for this nation. Instead, we become less functional with every passing generation.

I wised up a little later than I would have preferred but I was still quite young. Never, for a single moment -- not even a nano-second -- did I have the sense that I was enduring life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og8dVo2WY1U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og8dVo2WY1U)

@musiclady
@AllThatJazzZ  :amen:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on November 20, 2017, 01:18:24 pm
Jana Novotna, former Wimbledon tennis champion, dies aged 49

Jana Novotna, who has died of cancer at 49, will forever be remembered for a moment of tears in defeat on Centre Court at Wimbledon, as much as the 100 titles she won in a long and lauded tennis career.

The Czech player, who was inducted into the sport’s hall of fame in 2005, struggled to contain her emotions after losing to Steffi Graf in the 1993 final at the All England Club, and the image of the Duchess of Kent consoling her during the trophy presentation is among the most enduring of the championships.

She was in sight of victory, leading 4-1 in the third set, when the German took five games in a row and went on to win 7-6 (6), 1-6, 6-4. When Novotna began crying after being presented with the loser’s plate, the Duchess of Kent put an arm around her and whispered: “Don’t worry, you’ll win this one day.”
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She lost to Martina Hingis in the final four years later but won the title in 1998  ...  The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/nov/20/jana-novotna-dies-aged-49-former-wimbledon-tennis-champion)
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/2fd6c12139710df68f7e77dac13739054c041c11/53_34_1730_1038/master/1730.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=723e041e55d1ce1a0f287e616a98d966)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 20, 2017, 01:54:42 pm
Because of the promulgation of television in the 1960s, the number of celebrities ballooned over that time, now they are hitting their 70s and 80s, so it stands to reason why the number of celebrity deaths are much higher than before.
Also remember: 1946, the first year of the Baby Boomers, was 71 years ago now. The mean life expectancy in this country is around 75. We have a boatload of old people reaching their natural expiration dates.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2017, 02:21:06 pm
I was thinking it might be a good thing if Manson's brain could be analyzed now that he's dead.  Maybe we could get some insight into what was behind his murderous rampage and his looney tunes behavior.

@Applewood

It would be a waste of time. The man spent 40+ years in solitary confinement. ANYBODY would be nuts after that. I am GUESSING the ability to read brain waves didn't exist back when he was first convicted,so it was never going to happen.

I am probably wrong,but I THINK I read somewhere that there is a program now to test the physical and chemical characteristics of the brains of serial killers,but the program would be pretty limited because most of them have appeals in the works,and they aren't stupid enough to participate in any program that might help prove their guilt.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2017, 02:32:14 pm
I was thinking it might be a good thing if Manson's brain could be analyzed now that he's dead.  Maybe we could get some insight into what was behind his murderous rampage and his looney tunes behavior. 
@Applewood

It would be a waste of time. The man spent 40+ years in solitary confinement. ANYBODY would be nuts after that. I am GUESSING the ability to read brain waves didn't exist back when he was first convicted,so it was never going to happen.

I am probably wrong,but I THINK I read somewhere that there is a program now to test the physical and chemical characteristics of the brains of serial killers,but the program would be pretty limited because most of them have appeals in the works,and they aren't stupid enough to participate in any program that might help prove their guilt.

I think it's a bad idea.  Liberals are always looking for some way to pin behavior on some immutable characteristic, as a way of shifting blame away from the individual who is a monster.  They may as well waste their time reading the bumps on his head or something.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2017, 02:32:17 pm
Also remember: 1946, the first year of the Baby Boomers, was 71 years ago now. The mean life expectancy in this country is around 75. We have a boatload of old people reaching their natural expiration dates.

@jmyrlefuller

Good point about 1946. Most people,even in cities,didn't have tv's OR tv stations until the early 50's. I grew up in a medium-sized city surrounded by other medium-sized cities with no "country" to speak of between the borders,and we were the first family in our neighborhood that got a tv. IIRC,this was in 1953,and CBS was the only channel being broadcast.

Therefore,there WERE no aged stars to speak of dying off for people to notice before the 1950's. Yeah,there may have been a few Broadway or movie stars dying,but not many because there wasn't as many of them to start with.

Plus,for whatever reasons,people seem to think they "know" the tv stars that appear in their homes at least once a week,while the movie starts that only "show up" once or twice a year on the movie screen was treated like someone they had just heard of.

Probably  by the time the current 20-something generation is in their 70's,nobody will even care when movie and tv stars die off because of the different perspective.

I still think music fans will take the deaths of musicians as personal losses,though.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on November 20, 2017, 02:36:05 pm
I think it's a bad idea.  Liberals are always looking for some way to pin behavior on some immutable characteristic, as a way of shifting blame away from the individual who is a monster.  They may as well waste their time reading the bumps on his head or something.

Agreed.  As science becomes a religion, we look for physical causes of spiritual disorder. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2017, 02:38:12 pm
Agreed.  As science becomes a religion, we look for physical causes of spiritual disorder.

Besides, what would they do if it turns out ol' Charlie had the "Gay Gene?"   :whistle:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2017, 02:44:46 pm
Plus,for whatever reasons,people seem to think they "know" the tv stars that appear in their homes at least once a week,while the movie starts that only "show up" once or twice a year on the movie screen was treated like someone they had just heard of.

That's pretty insightful

Probably  by the time the current 20-something generation is in their 70's,nobody will even care when movie and tv stars die off because of the different perspective.

I still think music fans will take the deaths of musicians as personal losses,though.

I think that's true, because of the familiarity you mentioned.  People hear these recording artists as many as several times per day.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on November 20, 2017, 03:04:40 pm
Ladies and gentlemen,

I want to announce that Charles Manson has died.

Breaking story .


https://news.sky.com/story/former-cult-leader-charles-manson-dies-aged-83-11135217

May the families of Sharon Tate, Abigail Folger, The La Bianca's , Jay Sebring, Steve Parent, and Wojiech Frykowski finally know peace

Amen!

I'll never understand why this monster wasn't removed from earth as soon as the guilty verdict was pronounced.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2017, 03:18:36 pm
Amen!

I'll never understand why this monster wasn't removed from earth as soon as the guilty verdict was pronounced.

The Supreme Court decided it would be mean.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2017, 03:32:14 pm
The Supreme Court decided it would be mean.

Yep!  We need to stop executing vermin and start performing retroactive abortions on them instead!  THAT would be perfectly fine!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2017, 03:40:53 pm


I think that's true, because of the familiarity you mentioned.  People hear these recording artists as many as several times per day.

@Cyber Liberty

Not only that,but music moves us all on an emotional level that nothing visual even approaches. All,generally,in 3 minutes or less.

It's just the way most of us seem to be wired.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod2 on November 20, 2017, 03:41:19 pm
No more religious discussion on this thread, please. I mean it, or posts will be deleted.

Can't say I didn't warn you.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: verga on November 20, 2017, 04:28:38 pm
I know this is unChristian, but, Good Riddance!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on November 20, 2017, 04:44:25 pm

My wife's father grew up in Los Angeles' Italian American neighborhood along with the La Bianca family, and knew them.

The reaction of my wife, to Manson's death: He should have been dead, decades ago.

wiki quote from Bernadine Dohrn--wife of Obama's guru Bill Ayers--

"Bernardine Dohrn, a leader of the Weather Underground reportedly said about the Tate murders: "Dig it, first they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they even shoved a fork into a victim's stomach. Wild!"[68]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on November 20, 2017, 05:45:54 pm
Not soon enough by decades, may moonbeam, bird and their liberal accessories in California government rot in hell for denying the will of the People of California.

Be happy Chuck your finally going home to your master (http://i42.tinypic.com/2bcw1g.jpg)


Moonbeam don't despair, he is waiting for you too!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 20, 2017, 06:52:55 pm
Della Reese dies at 86

Reese was a prominent gospel singer who crossed over into the mainstream with her early 1960s hit "Don't You Know." She also had an acting career as Tess, a guardian angel, on the long-running TV series Touched by an Angel.

Reese died following a long battle with diabetes.

Developing...
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2017, 07:01:55 pm
Yep!  We need to stop executing vermin and start performing retroactive abortions on them instead!  THAT would be perfectly fine!

Hmmmmm.....  :pondering:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Restored on November 20, 2017, 07:12:17 pm

Reese died following a long battle with diabetes.

Developing...

I heard she lost her pinky toe.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on November 20, 2017, 07:38:41 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKc_rfX_Kn8
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: MOD4 on November 20, 2017, 09:20:40 pm
Merged Manson thread (although I had mixed emotions about putting that POS in with these good people.  It's good they're burying Manson in an unmarked grave in an undisclosed location).
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on November 20, 2017, 09:23:35 pm
My favorite Della Reese song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqfHHqEFKXs

Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on November 21, 2017, 12:09:50 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuzS5wP5-MA
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 21, 2017, 12:29:21 am
Della Reese dies at 86

Reese was a prominent gospel singer who crossed over into the mainstream with her early 1960s hit "Don't You Know." She also had an acting career as Tess, a guardian angel, on the long-running TV series Touched by an Angel.

Reese died following a long battle with diabetes.

Developing...

I had no idea she was acting,but I do know she had a powerful voice.

She didn't die of diabetes. She died of being 86,weak,and worn out.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 21, 2017, 12:30:52 am
Merged Manson thread (although I had mixed emotions about putting that POS in with these good people.  It's good they're burying Manson in an unmarked grave in an undisclosed location).

@MOD4

Might be better to bury him at a prominent public site. It's called "bait".
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 21, 2017, 01:05:43 am
@MOD4

Might be better to bury him at a prominent public site. It's called "bait".

And have another Jim Morrison fiasco grave?  LOL.  Glad California did something right, for once.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 21, 2017, 01:37:11 am
I had no idea she was acting,but I do know she had a powerful voice.

She didn't die of diabetes. She died of being 86,weak,and worn out.
She had that role on TV, and then there was this scene from the movie Harlem Nights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waern7sj7Sk

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 21, 2017, 03:05:52 am
She had that role on TV, and then there was this scene from the movie Harlem Nights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waern7sj7Sk

I basically didn't watch tv from 1964 to around the mid-70's,so I missed most of that stuff.

Finally bought a tv in 76 or so to make my ex quit bitching. Worse mistake I ever made. I had no idea the crazy bitch was a fan of I Love Lucy,and was surprised to find out we were role-playing. She did fine as the dingbat,but I was a lousy "Ricky". Lucy even made my head hurt when I was in elementary school. No way was I going to continue living with her clone as an adult.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on November 21, 2017, 04:15:05 am
Finally bought a tv in 76 or so to make my ex quit bitching. Worse mistake I ever made. I had no idea the crazy bitch was a fan of I Love Lucy,and was surprised to find out we were role-playing. She did fine as the dingbat,but I was a lousy "Ricky". Lucy even made my head hurt when I was in elementary school. No way was I going to continue living with her clone as an adult.
So you're trying to say, "Lucy, you still got some splainin' to do" . . . ;)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on November 21, 2017, 06:15:49 am
So you're trying to say, "Lucy, you still got some splainin' to do" . . . ;)

@EasyAce

Thankfullly,she has been doing all her "splan-in" to others for years now. Last time I talked with her she was having problems with husband number 6 (ok,she was smoking hot,and can still wear the same clothes she was wearing 40 years ago. She obviously has some sort of pact with de debbil.)

I told her to not worry about because I was certain it was all his fault,and walked away,leaving her looking a little confused. Ok,a little more confused than normal.

She is probably not as bad as I am making her out to be,but the sad,sad truth is she isn't very bright,and she LOVES drama. Living with her is like being in a live soap opera. I know. I tried 3 times before I had enough. There just ain't no living in peace with her.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on November 22, 2017, 02:15:11 am
David Cassidy has died



Rest In Peace Keith Partridge

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/21/entertainment/david-cassidy-dies/index.html
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on November 22, 2017, 02:18:47 am
My father had early onset dementia and died at 69. How sad for the Cassidy family to lose him to that horrible condition at only 67 years of age.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on November 22, 2017, 02:21:22 am
My father had early onset dementia and died at 69. How sad for the Cassidy family to lose him to that horrible condition at only 67 years of age.

Yes, his father died young too, if I recall, but horribly
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: WingNot on November 22, 2017, 02:49:50 am
Yes, his father died young too, if I recall, but horribly

He was burnt to a crisp after a night a heavy drinking when a fire started in his home while he was passed out drunk.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 22, 2017, 02:52:54 am
He was burnt to a crisp after a night a heavy drinking when a fire started in his home while he was passed out drunk.

I think he was smoking at the time, which is what caused the fire.  I really liked Jack.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on November 22, 2017, 03:56:56 am
I think he was smoking at the time, which is what caused the fire.  I really liked Jack.

I was a kid when I saw Jack doing guest stars on Columbo. He scared me.  Good actor.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on November 22, 2017, 04:04:29 am
David Cassidy has died



Rest In Peace Keith Partridge

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/21/entertainment/david-cassidy-dies/index.html

I am really sorry to hear that.

FAR too young..........
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: libertybele on November 22, 2017, 05:39:44 am
 **nononono*
I am really sorry to hear that.

FAR too young..........

Wow.  Way too young indeed! Definitely one of my teen idols. Very sad.  RIP!

"I'll Meet You Halfway"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaJDXVrveaE



"I Write The Songs"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8YIR9tEf1k



Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on November 22, 2017, 06:02:17 am
I was a kid when I saw Jack doing guest stars on Columbo. He scared me.  Good actor.
   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: debrawiest on November 22, 2017, 01:25:05 pm
**nononono*
Wow.  Way too young indeed! Definitely one of my teen idols. Very sad.  RIP!

"I'll Meet You Halfway"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaJDXVrveaE



That’s actually a really good pop song. Most of his songs, and the Partridge Family songs, were enjoyable.  I had a pretty sizable crush on him back in the day.  This makes me sad, not to mention nostalgic. RIP
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on November 22, 2017, 02:51:53 pm
**nononono*
Wow.  Way too young indeed! Definitely one of my teen idols. Very sad.  RIP!


"I Write The Songs"


I always thought "I Write the Songs" was written by Barry Manilow, but I just read that it was written by Bruce Johnston of the Beach Boys.

You learn something new every day!

(I wasn't a particular fan of Cassidy [though I like him and definitely thought he was cute!], so I didn't even realize he sang it).
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on November 23, 2017, 11:44:23 pm
Maurice Hinchey, former U.S. congressman, recalled as environmental champion
Jack Howland | Poughkeepsie Journal
Updated 8 hours ago
http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/news/2017/11/22/breaking-maurice-hinchey-former-ny-representative-dead-79/890412001/

Former Rep. Maurice D. Hinchey, who served 20 years in Congress and had been battling a terminal neurological disorder, died on Wednesday, his family confirmed.

[...]
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on November 24, 2017, 12:02:19 am
I always thought "I Write the Songs" was written by Barry Manilow, but I just read that it was written by Bruce Johnston of the Beach Boys.

You learn something new every day!

(I wasn't a particular fan of Cassidy [though I like him and definitely thought he was cute!], so I didn't even realize he sang it).

I had their records and a lunchbox. And I read Tiger Beat!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on November 26, 2017, 05:06:38 am
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rance-howard-dead-actor-father-ron-clint-howard-dies-at-89-1061376 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rance-howard-dead-actor-father-ron-clint-howard-dies-at-89-1061376)

Rance Howard, Actor and Father of Ron and Clint Howard, Dies at 89
3:26 PM PST 11/25/2017 by Lauren Huff
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 30, 2017, 06:04:21 pm
http://myfox8.com/2017/11/30/jim-nabors-known-for-his-role-as-gomer-pyle-has-died-at-87/ (http://myfox8.com/2017/11/30/jim-nabors-known-for-his-role-as-gomer-pyle-has-died-at-87/)

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Jim Nabors, the actor known for his role as Gomer Pyle in the “Andy Griffith Show,” has died, according to multiple reports. He was 87.

Steve Uyehara of Hawaii News Now confirmed Nabors’ death Thursday afternoon. WTHR’s Dave Calabro also confirmed the actor’s death.

Nabors, who recently lived in Hawaii, was born and raised in Sylacauga, Alabama. He was discovered by Andy Griffith while working at a nightclub in Santa Monica and appeared on “The Andy Griffith Show” from 1962 to 1964.

Nabors’ character of Gomer Pyle was a Marine from Mayberry, North Carolina stationed at Camp Henderson near Los Angeles in the 1960s.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on November 30, 2017, 06:41:37 pm
Just heard, Jim Nabors has passed on.

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/Gomer-Pyle-Star-Jim-Nabors-Dies-at-87-461060823.html (https://www.nbcsandiego.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/Gomer-Pyle-Star-Jim-Nabors-Dies-at-87-461060823.html)

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'Gomer Pyle' Star Jim Nabors Dies at 87

im Nabors, who played Gomer Pyle on TV's "The Andy Griffith Show," has died at 87.

Nabors died peacefully at his home in Hawaii on Thursday with his husband, Stan Cadwallader, at his side. He was 87.

Cadwallader says Nabors' health had been declining for the past year. His immune system also was suppressed after he underwent a liver transplant about 20 years ago.

Rest In Peace! Thanks for the good times.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on November 30, 2017, 06:48:05 pm
That's two in one week from the "Andy Griffin Show"

Weird.

Well. Rip Gomer Pyle.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: NavyCanDo on November 30, 2017, 07:23:54 pm
On those streets of Gold, I would not be surprised if you can hear someone shout, "citizen's arrest, citizen's arrest"

Never was a fan of his Marine character,  but those few years on the Andy Griffith show were priceless.

Rest In Peace Mr. Nabors.   
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: bigheadfred on November 30, 2017, 07:35:16 pm
He died several years ago of cancer.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: WingNot on November 30, 2017, 08:14:17 pm
That's two in one week from the "Andy Griffin Show"

Weird.

Well. Rip Gomer Pyle.

They go in three's.  Wonder who will be the next alum to pass....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on November 30, 2017, 08:16:45 pm
Well su-prise su-prise!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on November 30, 2017, 08:20:06 pm
Sur-prise, sur-prise, sur-prise!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on November 30, 2017, 08:23:56 pm
Surprising to know that Nabors had such a wonderful singing voice.  In fact, it amazes me that so many artists have talents in more than one field. 

Rest in peace, Gomer Pyle.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod1 on November 30, 2017, 08:29:11 pm
Merged Jim Nabors thread into obituaries
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on November 30, 2017, 08:54:25 pm
Surprising to know that Nabors had such a wonderful singing voice.  In fact, it amazes me that so many artists have talents in more than one field. 

Rest in peace, Gomer Pyle.

His singing voice, IMO, was a far superior talent to his acting.

But maybe that's just me.  ^-^
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Free Vulcan on November 30, 2017, 08:57:31 pm
Guys like Jim Nabors, George Lindsay, G.W. Bailey, Jerry Reed, and the Three Stooges were part of the lower brow subculture that those that grew up working poor and rural got many laughs off of, because their style was our style.

That culture is all but gone now, swallowed up by the suburbia social media culture monster.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: WingNot on November 30, 2017, 09:02:16 pm
Guys like Jim Nabors, George Lindsay, G.W. Bailey, Jerry Reed, and the Three Stooges were part of the lower brow subculture that those that grew up working poor and rural got many laughs off of, because their style was our style.

That culture is all but gone now, swallowed up by the suburbia social media culture monster.

Long ago replace with your fag of the week series and other SJW type shows that oozes out of evil liberal hollywood like KY Jelly dripping off of Matt Lauer's favorite sex toy.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on November 30, 2017, 09:06:41 pm
http://myfox8.com/2017/11/30/jim-nabors-known-for-his-role-as-gomer-pyle-has-died-at-87/ (http://myfox8.com/2017/11/30/jim-nabors-known-for-his-role-as-gomer-pyle-has-died-at-87/)

Good old Gomer. Followed me into the mens room at Gumps once a few years ago. Fastest pee I ever took.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 01, 2017, 03:17:02 am
That's two in one week from the "Andy Griffin Show".

@Freya Who else?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on December 01, 2017, 05:45:10 am
@Freya Who else?

Opie's dad had bit parts every now and then....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: dfwgator on December 01, 2017, 06:24:50 am
Surprising to know that Nabors had such a wonderful singing voice.  In fact, it amazes me that so many artists have talents in more than one field. 

Rest in peace, Gomer Pyle.

Nabors was a Reagan supporter and was friends with Ronald and Nancy Reagan.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on December 01, 2017, 06:34:55 am
Nabors was a Reagan supporter and was friends with Ronald and Nancy Reagan.

Fun Fact: Both Jim and Ron have a major trait in common. They are both dead.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 01, 2017, 02:51:36 pm
Opie's dad had bit parts every now and then....

And Ron Howard, as a producer, used his Dad and brother in the movies he produced.

I don't know much about it, but it seems they were a close family.

Prayers for them.....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 01, 2017, 04:14:19 pm
Opie's dad had bit parts every now and then....
Ah!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on December 01, 2017, 04:38:36 pm
Who is still alive now from the Andy Griffith Show besides Ron Howard?  I think there can't be too many others.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 01, 2017, 04:46:29 pm
Who is still alive now from the Andy Griffith Show besides Ron Howard?  I think there can't be too many others.
@Applewood

Believe it or not, Barney's girlfriend "Thelma Lou" (Betty Lynn) is still alive, at 91.

And so is Andy's first-season squeeze, Elinor "Ellie" Walker (Elinor Donahue), at 80.

Some of the minor characters and kids are still alive, too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on December 03, 2017, 01:24:59 am
@Applewood

Believe it or not, Barney's girlfriend "Thelma Lou" (Betty Lynn) is still alive, at 91.

And so is Andy's first-season squeeze, Elinor "Ellie" Walker (Elinor Donahue), at 80.

Some of the minor characters and kids are still alive, too.

And Clint Howard... he had bit parts on the show. Ken Berry is still alive,, he got a spin off from that show.  @Suppressed
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on December 03, 2017, 02:41:50 am
Thanks @Freya
@Suppressed
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 03, 2017, 04:34:46 am
And Clint Howard... he had bit parts on the show. Ken Berry is still alive,, he got a spin off from that show.  @Suppressed

Yeah, others like Barney's replacement, too.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 03, 2017, 07:12:38 am
Yeah, others like Barney's replacement, too.

Yup.  Jack Burns is still alive, at 84.  I didn't know this...he worked with George Carlin once.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on December 04, 2017, 03:02:19 pm
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Sir Elton John 'in shock' as mother dies
By Mark Savage BBC Music reporter

Sir Elton John says he is "in shock" after the death of his mother, Sheila Farebrother, just months after their reconciliation.

"So sad to say that my mother passed away this morning," he said on his Facebook page, alongside a photo of them together.

Continued at: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-42220913 (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-42220913)

Condolences.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on December 04, 2017, 03:13:24 pm
Yup.  Jack Burns is still alive, at 84.  I didn't know this...he worked with George Carlin once.

I had forgotten about Jack Burns.  Didn't know he once worked with George Carlin.  Growing up, I used to see Burns with another partner, Avery Schreiber.  Burns & Schreiber appeared on nearly every variety or talk show back in those days.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on December 05, 2017, 12:50:05 am
John Anderson died... you have to be a hardcore politics nerd to know who that is.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 05, 2017, 12:54:25 am
John Anderson died... you have to be a hardcore politics nerd to know who that is.

Leftie Republican who angered many in 1980.

By the time he was supporting Barack Obama, nobody cared.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on December 05, 2017, 12:56:39 am
John Anderson died... you have to be a hardcore politics nerd to know who that is.

Oh yes. I do. Everyone in my hometown voted for him. He carried our town. - it's a fact. He was 95.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/12/04/Former-Rep-John-Anderson-dies-at-95/3681512420410/ (https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/12/04/Former-Rep-John-Anderson-dies-at-95/3681512420410/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Frank Cannon on December 05, 2017, 12:56:56 am
John Anderson died... you have to be a hardcore politics nerd to know who that is.

Look around pal. You're on a political forum where fights break out over language in a farming bill.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 05, 2017, 01:20:44 am
John Anderson died... you have to be a hardcore politics nerd to know who that is.

That would be ALL of us.  ^-^
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on December 05, 2017, 02:26:48 am
That would be ALL of us.  ^-^

Yep, I know who he is.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on December 05, 2017, 02:47:26 am
John Anderson died... you have to be a hardcore politics nerd to know who that is.

He was the very epitome of a 3rd party kook.

He supported Nader in 2000

He supported a Progressive Social-democrat for President in 2012.

The very epitome of a 3rd party kook.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on December 05, 2017, 01:50:24 pm
Yep, I know who he is.

He was best known as the dad of  Dennis the Menace before he entered politics.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on December 05, 2017, 02:14:13 pm
He was best known as the dad of  Dennis the Menace before he entered politics.

That I didn't know.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on December 05, 2017, 03:58:38 pm
That I didn't know.

Your chain has been yanked.

Herbert Anderson played Dennis' father.  He was also one of several actors in Jack Webb's stable playing several different parts in Dragnet.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on December 05, 2017, 04:31:01 pm
Your chain has been yanked.

Herbert Anderson played Dennis' father.  He was also one of several actors in Jack Webb's stable playing several different parts in Dragnet.

Darn!  I hate it when that happens. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 05, 2017, 04:51:28 pm
Darn!  I hate it when that happens.

I was going to say something, but @Applewood got to it first.  ^-^
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on December 05, 2017, 05:52:15 pm
That I didn't know.

@Sanguine

It was a joke son,a joke!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on December 05, 2017, 06:09:56 pm
@Sanguine

It was a joke son,a joke!

Sigh.  Pete, I'm a very literal person.  And, it's "daughter" not "son".    :silly:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Restored on December 05, 2017, 06:14:30 pm
Quote
And, it's "daughter" not "son"

But only if you identify as a daughter, miss.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on December 05, 2017, 06:53:44 pm
But only if you identify as a daughter, miss.

@Restored

Not if I am quoting my personal hero,Foghorn Leghorn.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 05, 2017, 06:59:08 pm
Your chain has been yanked.

Herbert Anderson played Dennis' father.  He was also one of several actors in Jack Webb's stable playing several different parts in Dragnet.
Herb Anderson also played John Hammond, Sr. in that badly-bowdlerised film
The Benny Goodman Story which had Steve Allen (who actually did
look a little like Goodman) in the title role and Donna Reed as the Alice
Hammond who married Goodman. The bowdlerising only began with
the fact that, unlike in the film, Goodman didn't play "Memories of You"
at Carnegie Hall as a way to propose to her . . .
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 05, 2017, 07:03:22 pm
Herb Anderson also played John Hammond, Sr. in that badly-bowdlerised film
The Benny Goodman Story which had Steve Allen (who actually did
look a little like Goodman) in the title role and Donna Reed as the Alice
Hammond who married Goodman. The bowdlerising only began with
the fact that, unlike in the film, Goodman didn't play "Memories of You"
at Carnegie Hall as a way to propose to her . . .

Mmmmmm......... love that movie anyway!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 05, 2017, 07:09:39 pm
@Restored

Not if I am quoting my personal hero,Foghorn Leghorn.
@sneakypete
You were actually quoting Sen. Beauregard Claghorn, the "Allen's Alley" character
(from radio's Fred Allen Show) from whom Foghorn Leghorn was ripped off
entirely . . . but let's not get technical . . . ;)

Kenny Delmar was a fine dramatic actor who appeared frequently in the Theatre
Guild radio productions and in many serious plays. Kenny was also an accomplished
dialectician. The Senator Claghorn character was only one of the vocal cartoons
culled from his gallery of comedy creations.

---Fred Allen, in his memoir Treadmill to Oblivion

The Fred Allen Show, "Les Miserables Reprise; Allen's Alley: The Chicken Surplus" (NBC, 3 December 1946) (http://ia801403.us.archive.org/7/items/FredAllen--theFredAllenShow1945-1949/Fredallen-460210TheFredAllenShow-lesMiserablesReprisewithOrsonWelles.mp3)

Delmar created Senator Claghorn based on a blustery rancher he had known. But Delmar
never voiced Foghorn Leghorn---Mel Blanc (himself a considerable radio presence; he'd
first done the Happy Postman character on Burns & Allen's show, and played Jack Benny's
hapless violin teacher and other roles) did. Delmar actually made a feature film as Claghorn,
the comedy It's a Joke, Son in 1947.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 05, 2017, 07:38:01 pm
Mmmmmm......... love that movie anyway!
@musiclady
I loved it when I was younger . . . and hadn't yet read John Hammond's memoir, in which he
roasted the film's inaccuracies including and especially about the courtship of Benny Goodman
and Alice Hammond and the fact that Hammond's wealthy family weren't the musical snobs
they were portrayed to have been in the film. I still think it's entertaining, but I can't take it
seriously as a true story of Goodman's life and success.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 05, 2017, 07:43:08 pm
@musiclady
I loved it when I was younger . . . and hadn't yet read John Hammond's memoir, in which he
roasted the film's inaccuracies including and especially about the courtship of Benny Goodman
and Alice Hammond and the fact that Hammond's wealthy family weren't the musical snobs
they were portrayed to have been in the film. I still think it's entertaining, but I can't take it
seriously as a true story of Goodman's life and success.

I guess I don't take any Hollywood Biopic too seriously.  I like to hear the music, know the story is enhanced, and just enjoy it.  I also liked that Benny Goodman did his own clarinet stuff in it. (Heard him perform a Classical concert and he was phenomenal).

I liked when John Hammond started tapping his foot at the Carnegie concert.  I thought that was a nice touch.


Oh........ and I particularly enjoyed Jimmy Stewart as Glenn Miller.  Maybe my favorite Biopic.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 05, 2017, 09:07:48 pm
Oh........ and I particularly enjoyed Jimmy Stewart as Glenn Miller.  Maybe my favorite Biopic.
@musiclady
For bowdlerising that one was even worse---and it only began with the fact that, while the movie
kept using Miller's supposed aversion to the song as a kind of running gag, until his Army Air Force
band played it as a "new thing" in his memory, he actually recorded "Little Brown Jug" before
going into the AAF and had a big hit with it
.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 05, 2017, 09:24:13 pm
@musiclady
If you haven't seen it yet, I'll save you the trouble regarding Jersey Boys, the film based on the
musical based on the lives of the Four Seasons---it may be one of the worst Hollywood bowdlerisings
of them all, and the fact that Clint Eastwood (director) was the culprit makes it even worse. I'll send
you the review I wrote of it when the film came out.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on December 05, 2017, 10:59:28 pm
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/bowdlerize (https://www.thefreedictionary.com/bowdlerize)

Who knew I'd learn a new word today on an obituary thread?! Life is unpredictable to say the least.

BTW, can bowdlerizing also pertain to sculptures and statues? If so, I'd say that a whole bunch of them are being bowdlerized because they've been deemed offensive.  :silly: +  8888crybaby
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 05, 2017, 11:09:57 pm
BTW, can bowdlerizing also pertain to sculptures and statues? If so, I'd say that a whole bunch of them are being bowdlerized because they've been deemed offensive.  :silly: +  8888crybaby
I'm pretty sure it could.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 06, 2017, 12:08:51 am
@musiclady
For bowdlerising that one was even worse---and it only began with the fact that, while the movie
kept using Miller's supposed aversion to the song as a kind of running gag, until his Army Air Force
band played it as a "new thing" in his memory, he actually recorded "Little Brown Jug" before
going into the AAF and had a big hit with it
.

I know the Glenn Miller story isn't authentic, but it's so much fun, doncha think??  (Well, until he dies, that is).

I can't think of anything that Jimmy Stewart's been in that I didn't like.  Our whole family went into mourning when he died.  (Not really, but we were sad at his passing).

I'll take your advice on Jersey Boys and avoid it.  I heard the language was pretty bad, but if it's not even the real story in this day and age (I give old Hollywood some slack), then it's really not worth seeing.

(Thanks for the review.  I'll get to it when I have a few moments).

@EasyAce
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 06, 2017, 12:58:47 am
I know the Glenn Miller story isn't authentic, but it's so much fun, doncha think??  (Well, until he dies, that is).
Actually . . . no, it wasn't that much fun even with Jimmy Stewart. He was more wooden in that
film than Glenn Miller actually was, and from what I've read about Miller he wasn't exactly
the life of the party himself. And I didn't much like the over-presence of Chummy MacGregor
(Harry Morgan) in the film, when anyone who knew anything about the Miller operation deeper
than buying his records knew MacGregor was actually a marginal musical influence while
being one of Miller's few true intimates. (It's said MacGregor was so fond of dragging the tempos
that he drove half the musicians in the band to the nearest rye bottle. MacGregor himself was
made a consultant on the Miller film, which is kind of like inviting James Carville to be a consultant
on a film biography of Bill Clinton . . .)

The most fun I ever had with Glenn Miller in fact or fiction was finding in a second-hand shop
a two-album set of the Miller band's recordings for the two films they made before Miller went
into the AAF. They cut the stuff fresh on the 20th Century Fox sound stage and, for whatever
reason, delivered performances that provided the only time in Miller's recording history that
you could actually say the Miller band kicked. ass. Close your eyes, remove the Modernaires
and Tex Benecke's vocals, and you'd swear you were listening to Tommy Dorsey when Sy Oliver
was his arranger. I hope those recordings get a reissue soon.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on December 06, 2017, 03:21:44 am
He was best known as the dad of  Dennis the Menace before he entered politics.
No, come on, everyone knows he was the founder of Anderson's Split Pea Soup.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 08, 2017, 02:22:35 am
James Moody; History Department, Lake Superior State University
Well-loved by his students.
His last class was Monday. Tuesday night he was in hospice care, and this morning he died.
(https://i.imgur.com/ABXQkjW.png)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on December 08, 2017, 03:06:08 am
Dedicated to the end.  May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on December 08, 2017, 03:37:40 am
That's the way to go. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on December 08, 2017, 04:29:59 pm
James Moody; History Department, Lake Superior State University
Well-loved by his students.
His last class was Monday. Tuesday night he was in hospice care, and this morning he died.
(https://i.imgur.com/ABXQkjW.png)

When ya gotta go,that's the way to do it.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: dfwgator on December 08, 2017, 04:32:51 pm
That's the way to go.

I want to go peacefully in my sleep.  Unlike the screaming passengers in my car.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on December 08, 2017, 07:06:37 pm
James Moody; History Department, Lake Superior State University
Well-loved by his students. His last class was Monday. Tuesday night he was in hospice care, and this morning he died.
Sure, now who has to box up all those books?!?

(Sorry, still a little stressed from having so much of my mother's stuff in our basement three years after her death.   ^-^ 8888spinning cat )
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 08, 2017, 07:23:28 pm
I want to go peacefully in my sleep.  Unlike the screaming passengers in my car.

Credit: Jack Handey
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 09, 2017, 03:29:33 pm
Sure, now who has to box up all those books?!?

(Sorry, still a little stressed from having so much of my mother's stuff in our basement three years after her death.   ^-^ 8888spinning cat )
I'd volunteer if I could haul them home!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: dfwgator on December 09, 2017, 03:53:02 pm
From a few days ago....

Thousands of fans and celebrities bid au revoir to 'French Elvis' Johnny Hallyday
https://news.sky.com/story/thousands-of-fans-and-celebrities-bid-au-revoir-to-french-elvis-johnny-hallyday-11163027

A very talented performer, and Frenchman who loved America and American culture.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on December 09, 2017, 04:13:08 pm
I just saw a story about Hallyday's funeral and was unaware of his passing. He was such a big star in France, but nearly unknown in the US.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: dfwgator on December 09, 2017, 04:16:38 pm
I just saw a story about Hallyday's funeral and was unaware of his passing. He was such a big star in France, but nearly unknown in the US.

I liked this one....

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V2nY3xMENM#)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on December 09, 2017, 06:34:58 pm
Ken Shapiro, Whose ‘Groove Tube’ Satirized TV, Dies at 75

Quote
Ken Shapiro, a former child television actor whose hit 1974 film, “The Groove Tube,” anticipated “Saturday Night Live” by a year with sketches that wickedly satirized TV, died on Nov. 18 at his home in Las Cruces, N.M. He was 75.

His daughter, Rosy Rosenkrantz, said the cause was cancer.

Mr. Shapiro’s film, with a cast that included Chevy Chase, a future “S.N.L.” star, and the comedian Richard Belzer, was simultaneously inspired by Sid Caesar and Ernie Kovacs’s TV comedy shows of the 1950s and invigorated by the nudity, profanity and raunchiness commonplace in 1970s movies.

More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/obituaries/ken-shapiro-whose-groove-tube-satirized-tv-dies-at-75.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Shapiro)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0788553/)

Videos (https://www.google.com/search?q=Groove+Tube&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjci-e-yP3XAhUHyGMKHYMACx4Q_AUICigB&biw=1536&bih=724)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 09, 2017, 06:52:36 pm
Ken Shapiro, Whose ‘Groove Tube’ Satirized TV, Dies at 75

More (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/obituaries/ken-shapiro-whose-groove-tube-satirized-tv-dies-at-75.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Shapiro)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0788553/)

Videos (https://www.google.com/search?q=Groove+Tube&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjci-e-yP3XAhUHyGMKHYMACx4Q_AUICigB&biw=1536&bih=724)

It's time for Koko the Clown!

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCUz6aS2wKM#)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on December 11, 2017, 04:02:46 pm
RIP: Bruce Brown, 1937-2017: Iconic California surf filmmaker passes away (The Endless Summer)

Drew Kampion
Surfline
December 11, 2017

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Bruce Brown, longtime surf filmmaker and director of the seminal “Endless Summer” just passed at 80 years old.

Drew Kampion wrote the following for our Surfing A-Z entry on Brown:

Prior to 1964, the media saw surfers as rebellious thugs, and Hollywood made them out to be a bunch of idiots. Filmmaker Bruce Brown single-handedly changed that with The Endless Summer. It portrayed the wave as a kind of Holy Grail and surfers as knights on a quest. In one stroke, he replaced Hollywood's buffoonery with the popular mythology that endures today.

More (http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/iconic-california-surf-filmmaker-passes-away-rip-bruce-brown-1937-2017_150881/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Brown)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0113164/)

Official site (https://www.brucebrownfilms.com/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: skeeter on December 11, 2017, 04:07:40 pm
RIP: Bruce Brown, 1937-2017: Iconic California surf filmmaker passes away (The Endless Summer)

Drew Kampion
Surfline
December 11, 2017

More (http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/iconic-california-surf-filmmaker-passes-away-rip-bruce-brown-1937-2017_150881/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Brown)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0113164/)

Official site (https://www.brucebrownfilms.com/)

RIP Bruce Brown. Loved his work.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 11, 2017, 04:10:23 pm
In memory of Bruce Brown, and in honour of his signature film . . .

The Beach Boys, "Surf's Up"
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S22a1CITgj0#)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: edpc on December 13, 2017, 11:05:01 am
Pat DiNizio, The Smithereens Lead Singer, Dies at 62


Pat DiNizio, lead singer of The Smithereens, has died. He was 62.

The death of the singer, songwriter and founding member of the band was announced on his Facebook page Tuesday night.

“It is with great sadness that we announce the passing of Pat DiNizio, lead singer and songwriter of the influential New Jersey rock band, The Smithereens – America’s Band,” the post said.

https://www.thewrap.com/pat-dinizio-smithereens-lead-singer-dies-62/ (https://www.thewrap.com/pat-dinizio-smithereens-lead-singer-dies-62/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Neverdul on December 13, 2017, 12:13:09 pm
Damn. I loved The Smithereens. I had a chance to see them in concert at venue in Annapolis, MD but couldn't find anyone who wanted to go with me. I should have gone anyway.   :crying:
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on December 13, 2017, 02:59:06 pm
Damn. I loved The Smithereens. I had a chance to see them in concert at venue in Annapolis, MD but couldn't find anyone who wanted to go with me. I should have gone anyway.   :crying:

We are coming to that time where iconic rockers are coming to that age of mortality,,,,  plus add the hard partying lifestyle.

This year's Tom Petty passing probably affected me the most of this type since John Lennon.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 13, 2017, 03:09:49 pm
Last year was the tough one for me.  Keith Emerson committed suicide and Greg Lake died of cancer within months of each other.  2/3 of my favorite Prog Rock band, <Poof!>
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on December 13, 2017, 03:31:25 pm
Last year was the tough one for me.  Keith Emerson committed suicide and Greg Lake died of cancer within months of each other.  2/3 of my favorite Prog Rock band, <Poof!>

As a musician, I can honestly say that ELP collectively had the most talent (musically) of any rock band in history.  (Close behind are Rush, Pink Floyd, and Yes). 

They may have not made the best music, but there is no denying they being the best at what they did.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on December 13, 2017, 03:38:51 pm
Now that I'm 65, I think 60 plus years old is still young.  Seems many rockers are gone even before they reach 60.  And then we have rappers like that kid Lil Peep -- dead in his early 20s.

Is it the hard living lifestyle?  Perhaps.  But then there is David Crosby who partied hardy and he's still kicking despite diabetes and a liver transplant.    Tony Bennett is still performing in his 90s.  Johnny Mathis is in his 80s.  The rock n roll lifestyle was around when Bennett and Mathis were in their prime and they did their share of bad stuff.  Yet they are still alive and still singing.  Why did all of these guys escape an early death when so many younger ones are gone too soon?

I guess we mortals will never understand and maybe we aren't meant to.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on December 13, 2017, 03:43:01 pm
The rock n roll lifestyle was around when Bennett and Mathis were in their prime and they did their share of bad stuff.  Yet they are still alive and still singing.  Why did all of these guys escape an early death when so many younger ones are gone too soon?

I guess we mortals will never understand and maybe we aren't meant to.

Never really considered those two rockers, or in the circle of musical types who typically abused drugs.

Of course Keith Richards has been able to defy all odds and expectations.  He should have died long ago.  Mortality is puzzling in many ways.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on December 13, 2017, 03:49:26 pm
We are coming to that time where iconic rockers are coming to that age of mortality,,,,  plus add the hard partying lifestyle.

This year's Tom Petty passing probably affected me the most of this type since John Lennon.

Yep.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 13, 2017, 03:52:50 pm
As a musician, I can honestly say that ELP collectively had the most talent (musically) of any rock band in history.  (Close behind are Rush, Pink Floyd, and Yes). 

They may have not made the best music, but there is no denying they being the best at what they did.

They were very good, but it's been a while since I've listened to them.

Every year is another snub at the R&R HOF....
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on December 13, 2017, 04:04:45 pm
They were very good, but it's been a while since I've listened to them.

Every year is another snub at the R&R HOF....

The R & R HOF is basically run by the idiots at Rolling Stone.  They can't like something they can't understand. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on December 13, 2017, 04:06:00 pm
Never really considered those two rockers, or in the circle of musical types who typically abused drugs.

Of course Keith Richards has been able to defy all odds and expectations.  He should have died long ago.  Mortality is puzzling in many ways.

Make no mistake.  Even non-rockers have been affected by drugs, booze and indiscriminate sex.  Those things didn't start with rock n roll.  They've been around for years.

As to Keith Richards, there are some who joke that he really died years ago, but he is reanimated every time he's needed to perform.    LOL
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on December 13, 2017, 04:20:27 pm
Make no mistake.  Even non-rockers have been affected by drugs, booze and indiscriminate sex.  Those things didn't start with rock n roll.  They've been around for years.

As to Keith Richards, there are some who joke that he really died years ago, but he is reanimated every time he's needed to perform.    LOL

Agreed, but the "rock and roll lifestyle" is pretty much synonymous with taking this to the extreme.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 13, 2017, 04:51:30 pm
The R & R HOF is basically run by the idiots at Rolling Stone.  They can't like something they can't understand.

RS haaaaaated ELP.  Never could figure out their problem.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on December 14, 2017, 04:24:30 am
As a musician, I can honestly say that ELP collectively had the most talent (musically) of any rock band in history.  (Close behind are Rush, Pink Floyd, and Yes). 

They may have not made the best music, but there is no denying they being the best at what they did.

@catfish1957

I would disagree with any group being more musically gifted than Pink Floyd,but I would also put ELO's Jeff Lynnne and Steve Winwood on that list.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on December 14, 2017, 04:28:10 am
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Never really considered those two rockers, or in the circle of musical types who typically abused drugs.

Back when Tony Bennett was young,all the white hep cats were smoking reefer.

As for Keef,he is maybe/probably the toughest man who ever lived. I am in absolute awe of his survival abilities.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: dfwgator on December 14, 2017, 04:46:02 am
Back when Tony Bennett was young,all the white hep cats were smoking reefer.

As for Keef,he is maybe/probably the toughest man who ever lived. I am in absolute awe of his survival abilities.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7d/Why%3F_%28Ginger_Baker_album_-_cover_art%29.jpg)

Keith Richards?  Never heard of her.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on December 14, 2017, 12:34:55 pm
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7d/Why%3F_%28Ginger_Baker_album_-_cover_art%29.jpg)

Keith Richards?  Never heard of her.

Ginger Baker is still alive? 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Ghost Bear on December 14, 2017, 01:45:35 pm
Former Atlanta Falcons, Texas great Tommy Nobis dies at 74 (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/12/13/former-atlanta-falcons-great-tommy-nobis-dies-at-74/108572034/)

ATLANTA (AP) — Tommy Nobis, the first player drafted by the expansion Atlanta Falcons and a hard-hitting middle linebacker who was never fully recognized for his talents on a struggling franchise that failed to make the playoffs during his long career, died Wednesday. He was 74.

...

A native of San Antonio who sported a red-headed crew cut, Nobis starred on both sides of the line at the University of Texas, where his No. 60 is one of six numbers retired by the school. Despite being slowed by a knee injury during his senior season, he won the Maxwell Award as the nation's best all-around player and the Outland Trophy as top lineman. He also finished seventh in the Heisman Trophy balloting — highest among those who played defense — and appeared on the cover of Life and Sports Illustrated.

excerpted, more at the link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/12/13/former-atlanta-falcons-great-tommy-nobis-dies-at-74/108572034/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/12/13/former-atlanta-falcons-great-tommy-nobis-dies-at-74/108572034/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on December 14, 2017, 01:55:37 pm
Former Atlanta Falcons, Texas great Tommy Nobis dies at 74 (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/12/13/former-atlanta-falcons-great-tommy-nobis-dies-at-74/108572034/)

ATLANTA (AP) — Tommy Nobis, the first player drafted by the expansion Atlanta Falcons and a hard-hitting middle linebacker who was never fully recognized for his talents on a struggling franchise that failed to make the playoffs during his long career, died Wednesday. He was 74.

...

A native of San Antonio who sported a red-headed crew cut, Nobis starred on both sides of the line at the University of Texas, where his No. 60 is one of six numbers retired by the school. Despite being slowed by a knee injury during his senior season, he won the Maxwell Award as the nation's best all-around player and the Outland Trophy as top lineman. He also finished seventh in the Heisman Trophy balloting — highest among those who played defense — and appeared on the cover of Life and Sports Illustrated.

excerpted, more at the link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/12/13/former-atlanta-falcons-great-tommy-nobis-dies-at-74/108572034/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/12/13/former-atlanta-falcons-great-tommy-nobis-dies-at-74/108572034/)

Hook 'em.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 14, 2017, 07:53:45 pm
Ginger Baker is still alive?
Yes, strangely enough. If you're thinking of Cream, bassist/composer Jack Bruce was the first
to go . . .

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8S7Nn6si0E#)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: goatprairie on December 14, 2017, 08:41:42 pm
Never really considered those two rockers, or in the circle of musical types who typically abused drugs.

Of course Keith Richards has been able to defy all odds and expectations.  He should have died long ago.  Mortality is puzzling in many ways.
"He should have died long ago."

I think he did die decades ago. Ever hear of Zombie Keith? 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on December 15, 2017, 03:57:49 pm
Macon Brock, Dollar Tree Store Founder has passed away at 75.

http://www.richmond.com/ap/state/dollar-tree-co-founder-and-randolph-macon-college-benefactor-macon/article_2f9d640b-3ed3-55f8-bc35-dc2fbfdcc964.html (http://www.richmond.com/ap/state/dollar-tree-co-founder-and-randolph-macon-college-benefactor-macon/article_2f9d640b-3ed3-55f8-bc35-dc2fbfdcc964.html)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on December 15, 2017, 07:54:57 pm
Macon Brock, Dollar Tree Store Founder has passed away at 75.

http://www.richmond.com/ap/state/dollar-tree-co-founder-and-randolph-macon-college-benefactor-macon/article_2f9d640b-3ed3-55f8-bc35-dc2fbfdcc964.html (http://www.richmond.com/ap/state/dollar-tree-co-founder-and-randolph-macon-college-benefactor-macon/article_2f9d640b-3ed3-55f8-bc35-dc2fbfdcc964.html)
They're one of the last national holdouts on the "everything's $1" business model. They just opened one up in my area a few months ago. Although I liked it better about a decade ago when there was one in the town where I went to college (that's what inflation does, of course), there are still a few surprisingly good deals available.

It does make me wonder how much longer that model will be able to hold out before it goes the way of the five-and-dime.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 16, 2017, 07:09:21 pm
Bugs Bunny Designer Bob Givens Dies at 99
Mercedes Milligan | Dec 15th, 2017
http://www.animationmagazine.net/people/bugs-bunny-designer-bob-givens-dies-at-99/ (http://www.animationmagazine.net/people/bugs-bunny-designer-bob-givens-dies-at-99/)

(http://www.animationmagazine.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/bob-givens-1502.jpg)

Robert “Bob” Givens, an animator whose long and celebrated career brought him through the gamut of 20th century animation milestones from Walt Disney’s Snow White, to the first Bugs Bunny cartoon, to Hanna-Barbera’s Quick Draw McGraw, died on December 14 at St. Joseph’s Hospital in Burbank at age 99. His death was announced by his daughter, Mariana Givens, on Facebook.

[...]
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 16, 2017, 07:23:15 pm
Porn star August Ames commits suicide after bullying for refusing to have sex with man who did gay porn
December 7th, 2017
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/07/porn-star-august-ames-commits-suicide-after-bullying-for-not-wanting-to-have-sex-with-man-who-did-gay-porn.html (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/07/porn-star-august-ames-commits-suicide-after-bullying-for-not-wanting-to-have-sex-with-man-who-did-gay-porn.html)

A porn star relentlessly bullied on Twitter after saying she did not want to have sex with someone who had shot gay porn committed suicide by hanging.

[...]



I just came across this story.  Looks like the LGBTQ+ mafia scored a lethal hit.

(https://i.imgur.com/muOflk6.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/sePMDX7.png)

And...

Gay porn star who trolled August Ames refuses to back down over 'homophobic' slurs
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/gay-porn-star-who-trolled-11659307 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/gay-porn-star-who-trolled-11659307)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 16, 2017, 07:58:51 pm
Bugs Bunny Designer Bob Givens Dies at 99
Mercedes Milligan | Dec 15th, 2017
http://www.animationmagazine.net/people/bugs-bunny-designer-bob-givens-dies-at-99/ (http://www.animationmagazine.net/people/bugs-bunny-designer-bob-givens-dies-at-99/)

(http://www.animationmagazine.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/bob-givens-1502.jpg)

Robert “Bob” Givens, an animator whose long and celebrated career brought him through the gamut of 20th century animation milestones from Walt Disney’s Snow White, to the first Bugs Bunny cartoon, to Hanna-Barbera’s Quick Draw McGraw, died on December 14 at St. Joseph’s Hospital in Burbank at age 99. His death was announced by his daughter, Mariana Givens, on Facebook.

[...]

Wow.  Who knew he was still alive?   

(Some people live to be VERY old!!)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 16, 2017, 08:02:08 pm
Porn star August Ames commits suicide after bullying for refusing to have sex with man who did gay porn
December 7th, 2017
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/07/porn-star-august-ames-commits-suicide-after-bullying-for-not-wanting-to-have-sex-with-man-who-did-gay-porn.html (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/07/porn-star-august-ames-commits-suicide-after-bullying-for-not-wanting-to-have-sex-with-man-who-did-gay-porn.html)

A porn star relentlessly bullied on Twitter after saying she did not want to have sex with someone who had shot gay porn committed suicide by hanging.


Not to defend this porn star, but isn't a person who bullies someone into suicide guilty some places in being complicit in his/her death?

I don't know, but I think the LBGQTUVWXYZ crowd bear the blame for her death.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 16, 2017, 08:12:45 pm
Not to defend this porn star, but isn't a person who bullies someone into suicide guilty some places in being complicit in his/her death?

I don't know, but I think the LBGQTUVWXYZ crowd bear the blame for her death.
@musiclady
Morally, yes. Legally, probably not.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 16, 2017, 08:14:07 pm
@musiclady
Morally, yes. Legally, probably not.

I wonder if there are any states where they do legally...... 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 16, 2017, 08:14:46 pm
Wow.  Who knew he was still alive?   

(Some people live to be VERY old!!)
RIP Mr. Givens. And thank you for siring cartoondom's all-time superstar.

Bugs Bunny, from "Rabbit Hood" (1949)
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qtgm5g5Gyo#)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on December 16, 2017, 08:32:01 pm
Porn star August Ames commits suicide after bullying for refusing to have sex with man who did gay porn
December 7th, 2017
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/07/porn-star-august-ames-commits-suicide-after-bullying-for-not-wanting-to-have-sex-with-man-who-did-gay-porn.html (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/07/porn-star-august-ames-commits-suicide-after-bullying-for-not-wanting-to-have-sex-with-man-who-did-gay-porn.html)

A porn star relentlessly bullied on Twitter after saying she did not want to have sex with someone who had shot gay porn committed suicide by hanging.

Gay porn star who trolled August Ames refuses to back down over 'homophobic' slurs
www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/gay-porn-star-who-trolled-11659307 (http://
[url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/gay-porn-star-who-trolled-11659307)]http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/gay-porn-star-who-trolled-11659307[/url]

BUT.....BUT....BUT,I thought the LGTG crowd were the most open-minded understanding people on the face of the Earth?????? Isn't understanding and tolerance what they rant and rave about all the dime while demanding everyone show both to THEM?

WHY......,if I didn't know better I would think they are a bunch of intolerant hypocritical assholes,just like every other leftist shitheads.  </S>
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 16, 2017, 09:43:55 pm
(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11659527.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Bruce-Beckham.jpg)

(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11659529.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Bruce-Beckham.jpg)



Eventually . .

(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11659532.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Bruce-Beckham.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 17, 2017, 01:40:44 am
@musiclady
Morally, yes. Legally, probably not.
Considering the AIDS rate in the ranks of homosexual 'performers' in that industry, I guess they were going to get her one way or another. It's sad that she felt so alone that she ended her life, if that is indeed what happened.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 17, 2017, 01:42:36 am
BUT.....BUT....BUT,I thought the LGTG crowd were the most open-minded understanding people on the face of the Earth?????? Isn't understanding and tolerance what they rant and rave about all the dime while demanding everyone show both to THEM?

WHY......,if I didn't know better I would think they are a bunch of intolerant hypocritical assholes,just like every other leftist shitheads.  </S>
We are ever assured they are all caring couples, faithful to the last, just like the folks next door...

 **nononono* *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 17, 2017, 01:42:42 am
Considering the AIDS rate in the ranks of homosexual 'performers' in that industry, I guess they were going to get her one way or another. It's sad that she felt so alone that she ended her life, if that is indeed what happened.
The AIDS rate isn't as big as people think in that industry, from what I have read, but it seems
apparent that the bullying rate among gay porn performers is reaching epidemic levels. (I'm
pretty sure this isn't the first such incident, even if it's maybe the first to provoke suicide.)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 17, 2017, 01:49:11 am
We are ever assured they are all caring couples, faithful to the last, just like the folks next door...

 **nononono* *****rollingeyes*****

Yes, and entirely monogamous, from what I read.........   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 17, 2017, 01:52:11 am
Yes, and entirely monogamous, from what I read.........   *****rollingeyes*****
@musiclady

I know a couple of gay couples. When they are in couples, they're quite monogamous.
The ones who aren't coupled up . . . that's a whole 'nother smoke. (Put it this way: a lot
of non-coupled-up gays make Hugh Hefner look celibate!)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 17, 2017, 03:49:58 am
@musiclady

I know a couple of gay couples. When they are in couples, they're quite monogamous.
The ones who aren't coupled up . . . that's a whole 'nother smoke. (Put it this way: a lot
of non-coupled-up gays make Hugh Hefner look celibate!)
I believe the word you are looking for is "promiscuous", although that might be understated in some cases.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 17, 2017, 03:55:30 am
I believe the word you are looking for is "promiscuous", although that might be understated in some cases.
No, I was talking about those who actually do make couples. Those who aren't coupled up like that,
they are who I meant when I said they made Hefner look celibate. There's something rather admirable
about the ones in couples who stay monogamous, even if you deplore their particular sexuality.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 17, 2017, 04:15:30 am
No, I was talking about those who actually do make couples. Those who aren't coupled up like that,
they are who I meant when I said they made Hefner look celibate. There's something rather admirable
about the ones in couples who stay monogamous, even if you deplore their particular sexuality.
Must of the ones in couples I know aren't out parading their stuff on pride day, they are rather like hetero couples in not being in your face with their sexual preferences. I was referring to the 'single' ones, who seem to be the majority and who are far more flamboyant and promiscuous. From one I talked with, that person claimed more sexual partners in a week than most people have in a lifetime.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 17, 2017, 04:19:57 am
Must of the ones in couples I know aren't out parading their stuff on pride day, they are rather like hetero couples in not being in your face with their sexual preferences.

Bingo. You won't see them parading their stuff on other days where you might expect to see a gay
presence on the more militant side, either.

I was referring to the 'single' ones, who seem to be the majority and who are far more flamboyant and promiscuous. From one I talked with, that person claimed more sexual partners in a week than most people have in a lifetime.
That's who I meant with the Hefner-as-a-celibate comparison, too. Like the one you talked to, they
brag about it every chance they get, it often seems. Even those who aren't overtly flamboyant about
it, get them talking and they'll tell you just what the one you know told you.

I mean, isn't it bad enough when heterosexual men brag like that?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 17, 2017, 04:29:18 am
Bingo. You won't see them parading their stuff on other days where you might expect to see a gay
presence on the more militant side, either.
That's who I meant with the Hefner-as-a-celibate comparison, too. Like the one you talked to, they
brag about it every chance they get, it often seems. Even those who aren't overtly flamboyant about
it, get them talking and they'll tell you just what the one you know told you.

I mean, isn't it bad enough when heterosexual men brag like that?
I was raised with the archaic maxim of 'don't kiss and tell'. I never engaged in locker room jabbering about who did what with who, except to note that much of it was likely wishful thinking. I had a reputation among the ladies I knew for being discrete, and think I actually did more than the braggarts. Still, in those days, a guy didn't engage in activity with a lady he would not be reasonably compatible with anyway. just in case...  :shrug:

That said, marriage, that vow of mutual fidelity is something I have taken with utmost seriousness, a vow taken before The Almighty, and sacrosanct. Which is why I avoided married women in my single days like the plague (aside from the fact that might get you shot).
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 17, 2017, 04:35:21 am
I was raised with the archaic maxim of 'don't kiss and tell'. I never engaged in locker room jabbering about who did what with who, except to note that much of it was likely wishful thinking. I had a reputation among the ladies I knew for being discrete, and think I actually did more than the braggarts. Still, in those days, a guy didn't engage in activity with a lady he would not be reasonably compatible with anyway. just in case...  :shrug:
Likewise. If anyone ever asked me about my sex life in those years, I said, "Her prerogative, my honour, and none of your business." And
never disclosed who the "her" was.

That said, marriage, that vow of mutual fidelity is something I have taken with utmost seriousness, a vow taken before The Almighty, and sacrosanct.
As would I if I were fortunate enough to meet someone who'd be fool enough to want to marry me again.

Which is why I avoided married women in my single days like the plague (aside from the fact that might get you shot).
I think it was Ronnie Van Zandt of Lynyrd Skynyrd who once said he wanted to die at age 90 being shot
by a jealous husband.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: GtHawk on December 17, 2017, 04:43:27 am
I believe the word you are looking for is "promiscuous", although that might be understated in some cases.
Randy is the word I would apply, randy as a queen in heat!
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 17, 2017, 04:57:54 am
Likewise. If anyone ever asked me about my sex life in those years, I said, "Her prerogative, my honour, and none of your business." And
never disclosed who the "her" was.
As would I if I were fortunate enough to meet someone who'd be fool enough to want to marry me again.
Just get her to marry you once....
Quote
I think it was Ronnie Van Zandt of Lynyrd Skynyrd who once said he wanted to die at age 90 being shot
by a jealous husband.
I used to add "...for good reason.", but as I get up in the years, I'm not so sure about the getting shot part.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: edpc on December 17, 2017, 05:06:33 am
I think it was Ronnie Van Zandt of Lynyrd Skynyrd who once said he wanted to die at age 90 being shot by a jealous husband.

Nobody ever expects or requests death by flying Sony products in a plane crash.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 17, 2017, 06:20:52 am
Just get her to marry you once....
*laughing* I'd be the one re-marrying! (I'm divorced.)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 17, 2017, 06:28:18 am
*laughing* I'd be the one re-marrying! (I'm divorced.)
Oh. THat's different. I'll spare you the 'dog returning to its vomit' speech.  :laugh:

My first two tries were dismal failures: a poor little rich girl who was a very convincing liar, and another who had worse problems with bottles and other things than I could deal with. Rebound, two up two down. I took some time off (a year that became quite a few more) figuring out what I was doing wrong, and selection was the biggest problem. Then remarried, to a lady who had been a friend for over 20 years, and have been together since. I figured either third time's a charm or three strikes I'm out. So far, it's been a charm. I wish you all the happiness you can find with another, or if it suits you better, without.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 17, 2017, 06:29:13 am
I think it was Ronnie Van Zandt of Lynyrd Skynyrd who once said he wanted to die at age 90 being shot by a jealous husband.

I prefer Will Rogers:

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“When I die, I want to die like my grandfather who died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car.”
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on December 17, 2017, 01:38:11 pm
We are ever assured they are all caring couples, faithful to the last, just like the folks next door...

 **nononono* *****rollingeyes*****

@Smokin Joe

Uhhhhhhh...........
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on December 17, 2017, 05:13:06 pm
Iconic vocalist Keely Smith dies from apparent heart failure at 89

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Keely Smith has died at age 89. Here is a press release regarding her death:

“Keely Smith, the iconic singer/performer known for her many solo recordings as well as her musical partnership with first husband Louis Prima died in Palm Springs, CA on Saturday, December 16.  She was 89 and under physicians’ care at the time of her passing from apparent heart failure. Born Dorothy Jacqueline Keely in Norfolk VA on March 9, 19 28 of Native American (Cherokee) and Irish parentage, Smith showed a natural aptitude for singing at a young age. At 14, she sang with a naval air station band and at 15, she got her first paying job with the Earl Bennett band.

Smith, still a teenager, auditioned to be the “girl singer” in Prima’s band, got the job and hit the road with them in 1948.  She and Prima married in 1953 and had two children together, Toni Prima and Luanne Prima, both of whom survive their mother.  The Smith and Prima combination was a potent one both on stage, on television, in films and on records and made Keely Smith a household name.

More (http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/12/17/iconic-vocalist-keely-smith-dies-from-apparent-heart-failure-at-89/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keely_Smith)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0808906/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on December 17, 2017, 05:32:43 pm
Didn't realize Miss Smith was still alive.  She sang with her first husband, Louis Prima's band.  This is my favorite:

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzUXuBeXN44#)



Rest in peace, Miss Smith.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 17, 2017, 05:34:54 pm
It's a good thing Louis Prima never ran for Senator as a Republican, he'd have been ripped to shreds by the press.... ^-^
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: catfish1957 on December 17, 2017, 07:59:06 pm
Half Mast Erections?

Not a problem for some of us  :silly: 60+ crowd.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 17, 2017, 10:43:56 pm
I prefer Will Rogers:
Quote
“When I die, I want to die like my grandfather who died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car.”
@Cyber Liberty

That's actually by Jack Handey.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on December 18, 2017, 12:44:07 am
It's a good thing Louis Prima never ran for Senator as a Republican, he'd have been ripped to shreds by the press.... ^-^
She was his wife - does he still get in trouble?
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 18, 2017, 01:07:21 am
She was his wife - does he still get in trouble?

Yeah, if he's in the wrong Party.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on December 18, 2017, 01:38:54 am
Iconic vocalist Keely Smith dies from apparent heart failure at 89

More (http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/12/17/iconic-vocalist-keely-smith-dies-from-apparent-heart-failure-at-89/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keely_Smith)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0808906/)

She and Louie were so good I tried to never miss their appearances on the Ed Sullivan show back in the 50's,and I was just a little kid. They were the prefect match for the tv era. She,with her bored robotic appearance and GREAT voice,along with Prima,the dancing clown with a great voice were hard to beat.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on December 18, 2017, 08:01:32 pm

@Cyber Liberty

That's actually by Jack Handey.
I have also heard it attributed to British comic Bob Monkhouse.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Restored on December 18, 2017, 08:11:41 pm
I have also heard it attributed to British comic Bob Monkhouse.

Abraham Lincoln said it first
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on December 18, 2017, 08:26:25 pm
She and Louie were so good I tried to never miss their appearances on the Ed Sullivan show back in the 50's,and I was just a little kid. They were the prefect match for the tv era. She,with her bored robotic appearance and GREAT voice,along with Prima,the dancing clown with a great voice were hard to beat.
I remember our first TV. We received two fuzzy channels. Period.

I died and went to heaven, when we moved to California, and saw TV on my grandparents set. Seven clear channels.

And adults determined what was watched, and for how long. That meant adult programs and children's' programs.

Adult meant variety shows, and this couple typified good televised entertainment.

That couple were popular with both my anglo-nordic-American parents, and my wife's Italian-American parents.

That "Black Magic" song still stirs me.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on December 18, 2017, 08:29:21 pm
Abraham Lincoln said it first

Yes, but he said "two horse carriage", not "car".
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 18, 2017, 09:06:03 pm
Yes, but he said "two horse carriage", not "car".

I thought it was "Surrey with a fringe on top"
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on December 19, 2017, 03:46:42 am
I remember our first TV. We received two fuzzy channels. Period.

I died and went to heaven, when we moved to California, and saw TV on my grandparents set. Seven clear channels.

And adults determined what was watched, and for how long. That meant adult programs and children's' programs.

Adult meant variety shows, and this couple typified good televised entertainment.

That couple were popular with both my anglo-nordic-American parents, and my wife's Italian-American parents.

That "Black Magic" song still stirs me.

@truth_seeker

Here she is singing with The Jive Aces in 2008.  Can you imagine how thrilled they were to perform with her live?

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WCYdRlS9i8#)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: truth_seeker on December 19, 2017, 04:26:09 am
@truth_seeker

Here she is singing with The Jive Aces in 2008.  Can you imagine how thrilled they were to perform with her live?


Yep. The Brits have loved American music from way, way back. Rock, Blues, Jazz, Country.
@sneakypete

And I have loved theirs, too. Notably Van Morrison, Sade to just mention a couple faves. (plus many of the usual suspects)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 19, 2017, 10:19:43 am
I have also heard it attributed to British comic Bob Monkhouse.

Yes, but it was Jack Handey, one of his "Deep Thoughts" when he was a writer for SNL.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 19, 2017, 04:07:17 pm
Yes, but it was Jack Handey, one of his "Deep Thoughts" when he was a writer for SNL.

No, it was Will Rogers, and he predates Handey by at least a few decades.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/466354-when-i-die-i-want-to-die-like-my-grandfather (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/466354-when-i-die-i-want-to-die-like-my-grandfather)

It's also on Cheezeburger

(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/4656433664/h4B7A85B1/.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: txradioguy on December 19, 2017, 04:16:41 pm
Not sure how many of you are familiar with Mark Gungor...he does a great series on couples and relationships with an especially hilarious piece on how men's and women's brains are wired differently. 

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29JPnJSmDs0&feature=youtu.be#)

His wife...and high school sweetheart...passed away over the weekend of cancer. she was 63.

I firmly believe the experiences he talked about were probably based on experiences with him and his wife.

Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on December 19, 2017, 06:26:54 pm
Tom Zenk, of Can-Am Connection, dies at 59 (professional wrestler)

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Tom Zenk, known for time teaming with Rick Martel as the Can-Am Connection in the 1980s, died Dec. 9 at 59 years old.

Trained by Eddie Sharkey, Zenk was a bodybuilder turned wrestler who earned the title Mr. Twin Cities in May 1981 after coming in at third place in October 1980 for the Mr. North Country championship. In July 1981, Zenk earned the Mr. Minnesota triple crown, securing titles in the overall, heavyweight and most muscular divisions.

Road Warrior Animal discovered Zenk at a bodybuilding competition and suggested he make the journey to professional wrestling.

More (http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Wrestling/2017/12/18/22769878.html)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Zenk)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 19, 2017, 11:19:56 pm
No, it was Will Rogers, and he predates Handey by at least a few decades.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/466354-when-i-die-i-want-to-die-like-my-grandfather (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/466354-when-i-die-i-want-to-die-like-my-grandfather)

It's also on Cheezeburger

(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/4656433664/h4B7A85B1/.jpg)

Yes, enough decades that his grandfather certainly wasnt driving a car!!

Note your source...goodreads...which is loaded with garbage, sonce anone can post whate very they want.  You'll not find a primary source for it in Rogers, because it's spurious.  OTOH, Handey has published it under his own name, since he wrote it.

Quote
Will Rogers also said "don't believe everything you read on the internet".
                                --Sedorner at https://www.reddit.com/r/quotes/comments/4sbqkl/when_i_die_i_want_to_die_like_my_grandfather_who/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/quotes/comments/4sbqkl/when_i_die_i_want_to_die_like_my_grandfather_who/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 19, 2017, 11:25:53 pm
Yes, enough decades that his grandfather certainly wasnt driving a car!!

Note your source...goodreads...which is loaded with garbage, sonce anone can post whate very they want.  You'll not find a primary source for it in Rogers, because it's spurious.  OTOH, Handey has published it under his own name, since he wrote it.
                                --Sedorner at https://www.reddit.com/r/quotes/comments/4sbqkl/when_i_die_i_want_to_die_like_my_grandfather_who/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/quotes/comments/4sbqkl/when_i_die_i_want_to_die_like_my_grandfather_who/)

Got it.  I will never again challenge your assertions that a SNL actor wrote something that was known for eons before.  Will rogers, after all, never engaged in hyperbole in his life.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on December 20, 2017, 04:13:37 am
Heather North dies at 71

North is perhaps most famous for voicing the role of Daphne Blake on the cartoon Scooby-Doo, a role she took partway through the first series and held onto for most of the 1970s and 1980s. She had a few bit parts on live-action television series, mostly in the 1960s and 1970s, including the soap opera Days of Our Lives, whose producer, Wes Kenney, would later marry North (despite him being 19 years her senior). North died November 30 of a long but unspecified illness; her death was not made public until December 19.

Obituary from Entertainment Weekly (http://ew.com/tv/2017/12/19/heather-north-dies-scooby-doo-actress-dead/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_North)

IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0636011/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on December 20, 2017, 04:22:39 am
@Suppressed @Cyber Liberty

I'm pretty sure it's Bob Monkhouse. This article, which was printed around the time of his death in 2003, attributes it to him as an established gag of his, although I've had a hard time finding a date for when he first said it:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/dec/29/arts.artsnews1 (https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/dec/29/arts.artsnews1)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 20, 2017, 06:21:34 am
Heather North, Voice of Daphne on 'Scooby-Doo,' Dies at 71
11:58 AM PST 12/19/2017 by Mike Barnes
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/heather-north-dead-voice-daphne-scooby-doo-was-71-1069297 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/heather-north-dead-voice-daphne-scooby-doo-was-71-1069297)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Gefn on December 20, 2017, 06:18:19 pm
RIP, Daphne.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 20, 2017, 06:55:54 pm
Daphne?   8888crybaby
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: DCPatriot on December 22, 2017, 10:34:09 am
http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-dick-enberg-obit-20171221-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-dick-enberg-obit-20171221-story.html)

Dick Enberg...."OH MY!!!"...., 82, found dead at this home.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 22, 2017, 03:14:02 pm
http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-dick-enberg-obit-20171221-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-dick-enberg-obit-20171221-story.html)

Dick Enberg...."OH MY!!!"...., 82, found dead at this home.

This makes me sad.  Bags packed, waiting for the car to take him to airport to visit family.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on December 25, 2017, 04:06:29 pm
‘Sound of Music’ Actress Heather Menzies-Urich Dies at 68

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Actress Heather Menzies-Urich, best known for portraying Louisa von Trapp in the 1965 film “The Sound of Music,” died Sunday night. She was 68.

Menzies-Urich, the widow of actor Robert Urich, had been recently diagnosed with cancer, according to her son Ryan Urich.

Urich said his mother died on Christmas Eve, surrounded by her children and family members.

More (http://variety.com/2017/film/news/sound-of-music-heather-menzies-urich-dead-68-1202648607/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_Menzies)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0579991/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Applewood on December 25, 2017, 04:25:55 pm
A shame.  Decent actress.  Always liked her husband, Robert Urich, too.  He left us way too young.

Rest in Peace Mrs. Urich.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Machiavelli on December 26, 2017, 06:54:48 pm
Dominic Frontiere, Composer for ‘The Outer Limits,’ ‘The Flying Nun,’ Dies at 86

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Dominic Frontiere, Emmy-winning composer of such classic TV themes as “The Outer Limits,” “The Flying Nun” and “The Rat Patrol,” died Thursday in Tesuque, N.M. He was 86.

Frontiere was a fixture on the film- and TV-music scene throughout the 1960s, ’70s and ’80s, composing hundreds of hours of music, mostly for TV but also for films including “Hang ‘Em High,” “Cancel My Reservation,” “Hammersmith Is Out,” “Freebie and the Bean,” and “The Aviator.” He won a Golden Globe award for his score for “The Stunt Man” in 1980.

More (http://variety.com/2017/music/news/dominic-frontiere-dead-dies-composer-outer-limits-1202648539/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Frontiere)

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006089/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on December 27, 2017, 01:14:01 am
Influential newsman Irv Weinstein dies at 87

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/IrvWeinstein1973.png)

Weinstein was a news anchor for WKBW-TV, channel 7 in Buffalo, New York. While his individual body of work, which spanned 34 years from 1964 to 1998 at channel 7, may not have been well-known outside that channel's broadcast range, the influence he had on television news had a much wider impact. A former aspiring actor who switched to broadcasting for better job opportunities, Weinstein's approach to news took a homespun approach drawing from his working-class background (he was the son of Jewish Lithuanian immigrants) and the work of Paul Harvey, mixed with sensationalism and copious amounts of alliteration. Elements of Weinstein's approach were integrated into Action News, a franchised format used on numerous televisions in the United States in the 1970s and into the 1980s.

The availability of channel 7 in Southern Ontario would go on to influence a number of influential Canadian comedians, such as Mike Myers, Eugene Levy (who incorporated elements of Weinstein's approach into the sketch comedy series SCTV) and Jim Carrey, whose film Bruce Almighty featured Carrey as a fictional reporter for WKBW. Weinstein's 1998 retirement drew praise from a number of Canadian politicians and media figures, including David Frum's column "He Came from Buffalo," which likened Weinstein's Canadian popularity to that of Jerry Lewis in France.

Weinstein had experienced ALS since March 2016.

Obituary from The Buffalo News (http://buffalonews.com/2017/12/26/irv-weinstein-legendary-channel-7-anchor-has-died/)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irv_Weinstein)

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtkd_zD0P1M#)

@DCPatriot @verga @Suppressed 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: verga on December 27, 2017, 02:10:12 am
My father worked for KB from 1959 until his won passing in 83. I meet Irv a number of times and he was nice enough to come to my fathers funeral. He had a very dry sense of humor and never took himself to seriously.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on December 27, 2017, 05:04:58 pm
Maple Leaf great and Hall of Famer Johnny Bower dies at 93

Johnny Bower didn't even want to come to Toronto. Yet the pint-sized goalie with the big heart became a part of Maple Leafs lore.

Bower, a beloved two-time Vezina Trophy winner who helped the Leafs win their last Stanley Cup in 1967, died on Tuesday. He was 93.

His family said in a statement that the Hall of Famer died after a short battle with pneumonia.

Bower was a two-time Vezina Trophy winner who became known as the China Wall. His career took off after the Leafs claimed him in an intra-league draft in 1958, and he played 475 regular-season games and won four Stanley Cups for the Leafs before playing his final game as a 45-year-old in 1969.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/maple-leaf-great-and-hall-of-famer-johnny-bower-dies-at-93/ar-BBHogDm?OCID=ansmsnnews11 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/maple-leaf-great-and-hall-of-famer-johnny-bower-dies-at-93/ar-BBHogDm?OCID=ansmsnnews11)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: SZonian on December 27, 2017, 05:10:21 pm
Aflie Curtis, who played Dr. Evazan in ‘Star Wars: A New Hope,’ dead at 87

 Alfie Curtis, who may be best known for his role of Dr. Evazan in “Star Wars: Episode IV — A New Hope,” has died, according to reports.

He was 87.

The actor appeared in the 1977 film as Dr. Evazan at the Mos Eisley cantina where he met face-to-face with Luke Skywalker, portrayed by Mark Hamill.

http://youtu.be/Lfy5Esue_ls (http://youtu.be/Lfy5Esue_ls)

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/alfie-curtis-played-dr-evazan-star-wars-dead-87-article-1.3722539 (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/alfie-curtis-played-dr-evazan-star-wars-dead-87-article-1.3722539)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Suppressed on December 27, 2017, 09:03:31 pm
Bower, a beloved two-time Vezina Trophy winner who helped the Leafs win their last Stanley Cup in 1967, died on Tuesday.

Since then...

(https://i.imgur.com/JHOjPpr.jpg)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 29, 2017, 01:19:02 am
Rose Marie, Wisecracking Star of 'Dick Van Dyke Show,' Dies at 94
Hollywood Reporter, Dec 28, 2017

The beloved actress was a co-headliner on opening night at Bugsy Siegel's Flamingo Hotel in Vegas in 1946 and later a regular on 'The Hollywood Squares.'

Rose Marie, the actress who went toe-to-toe in a man’s world as wisecracking comedy writer Sally Rogers on the legendary 1960s CBS sitcom The Dick Van Dyke Show, has died. She was 94.

Marie died at 2 p.m. Thursday at her home in Van Nuys, California, according to her website.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rose-marie-dead-dick-van-722076 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rose-marie-dead-dick-van-722076)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on December 29, 2017, 01:19:54 am
Actress Rose Marie dies at 94

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Rose_Marie_1970.JPG/220px-Rose_Marie_1970.JPG)

Rose-Marie Mazzetta had a professional career spanning nearly 90 years, probably one of the longest careers in the history of the entertainment industry. Beginning her career as "Baby Rose Marie" as a young child, she recorded several sound films in the late 1920s and early 1930s just as the technology was emerging into the mainstream. According to music historian Joel Whitburn, she was the last surviving entertainer to have a hit record from before World War ii.

By the late 1930s, she was out of show business, but she would return in the early 1950s, first in feature films, then in television, where she would make her most enduring impact. She had regular roles on the sitcoms My Sister Eileen and The Doris Day Show, but it was her role on The Dick Van Dyke Show, that of spinster Sally Rogers, that gave Rose Marie her most lasting claim to fame. She then parlayed her mid-level celebrity into a regular position on the game show Hollywood Squares well into the 1970s.

She continued to be an active entertainer until her death, including a regular role as Mitzi Balzer, the Marge Schott-inspired acid-tongued owner of a struggling baseball team in the 1994 sitcom Hardball. A documentary covering her career, Wait for Your Laugh, was released two months ago.

Developing…
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: dfwgator on December 29, 2017, 01:21:26 am
Since then...

 

Or for any Canadian team since 1993.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 29, 2017, 01:23:07 am
Rose Marie was one of a kind . . .

The Dick Van Dyke Show, "Dear Sally Rogers"

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi-aSkfCfBk#)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 29, 2017, 03:04:06 am
Actress Rose Marie dies at 94

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Rose-Marie Mazzetta had a professional career spanning nearly 90 years, probably one of the longest careers in the history of the entertainment industry. Beginning her career as "Baby Rose Marie" as a young child, she recorded several sound films in the late 1920s and early 1930s just as the technology was emerging into the mainstream. According to music historian Joel Whitburn, she was the last surviving entertainer to have a hit record from before World War

By the late 1930s, she was out of show business, but she would return in the early 1950s, first in feature films, then in television, where she would make her most enduring impact. She had regular roles on the sitcoms My Sister Eileen and The Doris Day Show, but it was her role on The Dick Van Dyke Show, that of spinster Sally Rogers, that gave Rose Marie her most lasting claim to fame. She then parlayed her mid-level celebrity into a regular position on the game show Hollywood Squares well into the 1970s.

She continued to be an active entertainer until her death, including a regular role as Mitzi Balzer, the Marge Schott-inspired acid-tongued owner of a struggling baseball team in the 1994 sitcom Hardball. A documentary covering her career, Wait for Your Laugh, was released two months ago.

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RIP Rose Marie.   You were a funny lady.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 29, 2017, 08:58:07 pm
Sue Grafton, Best-Selling Author Of Kinsey Millhone Alphabet Mysteries, Dies At 77

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Sue Grafton, the author of A Is For Alibi and 24 other mysteries featuring detective Kinsey Millhone,
died Thursday at age 77. Her daughter Jamie wrote on Facebook that her mother had been battling cancer
for the past two years but had been doing well until recent days.

"Sue always said that she would continue writing as long as she had the juice," she wrote. "Many of you
also know that she was adamant that her books would never be turned into movies or TV shows, and in
that same vein, she would never allow a ghost writer to write in her name. Because of all of those things,
and out of the deep abiding love and respect for our dear sweet Sue, as far as we in the family are concerned,
the alphabet now ends at Y."

The last of the Alphabet Mysteries would have been Z is for Zero.

RIP Ms. Grafton. You were one of the greatest mystery writers this country has ever produced.

Respectfully submitted,
Fan of Kinsey Millhone.

(She habitually finished a novel with "Respectfully submitted, Kinsey Millhone" . . . )
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: mountaineer on December 29, 2017, 08:58:43 pm
Sue Grafton, writer behind Kinsey Millhone Alphabet Series, dead at 77, daughter says
FOX

Mystery writer Sue Grafton has died in Santa Barbara, California. She was 77.  ...

Grafton was the author of the so-called Kinsey Millhone Alphabet Series in which each book title begins with a letter from the alphabet. The last was "Y is for Yesterday."

Her daughter concluded her posting by saying, "the alphabet now ends at Y."   Full story (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/29/sue-grafton-writer-behind-kinsey-millhone-alphabet-series-dead-at-77-daughter-says.html)
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Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Sanguine on December 29, 2017, 09:29:27 pm
I liked her novels.  Well written.
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Post by: Suppressed on December 29, 2017, 11:12:32 pm
Wow. That one catches me by surprise!   8888crybaby
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: TomSea on December 30, 2017, 10:54:45 am
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Recy Taylor, who fought for justice after 1944 rape, dies
Associated Press 19 hrs ago

ABBEVILLE, Ala. — Recy Taylor, a black Alabama woman whose rape by six white men in 1944 drew national attention, died Thursday. She was 97.

Taylor died in her sleep at a nursing home in Abbeville, her brother Robert Corbitt said. He said Taylor had been in good spirits the previous day and her death was sudden. She would have been 98 on Sunday.

Taylor was 24 when she was abducted and raped as she walked home from church in Abbeville. Her attackers left her on the side of the road in an isolated area. The NAACP assigned Rosa Parks to investigate the case, and she rallied support for justice for Taylor.

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Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: sneakypete on December 30, 2017, 02:54:23 pm
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@TomSea

 
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Two all-white, all-male grand juries declined to indict the six white men who admitted to authorities that they assaulted her.

A crying damn shame. I can only hope they each came to realize the horror of what they did and were ashamed of themselves before they died.

And "Yes,I AM including the jurors."
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on December 30, 2017, 06:51:04 pm
Erica Garner, daughter of Eric Garner, dies at 27

Flashback: in 2014, Eric Garner, who was peddling untaxed cigarettes on the streets of New York City and had a long rap sheet of such petty crimes, was accosted by a city police officer, during the course of which he suffered an asthma attack, collapsed and died. No damage was found to his neck, and his obesity and heart disease were also noted as factors in Garner's death.

Now, 3 years later, Eric's daughter Erica, who used her father's death as a cudgel for the Black Lives Matter movement, has herself died of an asthma-related heart attack at the age of 27.

I'll just leave it at that.

Obituary from CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/erica-garner-activist-and-daughter-of-eric-garner-dead-at-27/)
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 30, 2017, 06:53:53 pm
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Back in the day when, according to some, things were the way they ought to be..... *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: EasyAce on December 30, 2017, 07:17:58 pm
Back in the day when, according to some, things were the way they ought to be..... *****rollingeyes*****
@musiclady
And should be again . . .  9999hair out0000
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 30, 2017, 07:34:18 pm
@musiclady
And should be again . . .  9999hair out0000

Indeed.   **nononono*
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 31, 2017, 02:38:55 am
@TomSea

 
A crying damn shame. I can only hope they each came to realize the horror of what they did and were ashamed of themselves before they died.

And "Yes,I AM including the jurors."
I agree, and The Almighty will deal with them as He sees fit. 
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: jmyrlefuller on December 31, 2017, 01:32:10 pm
Back in the day when, according to some, things were the way they ought to be..... *****rollingeyes*****
Can we leave the you-know-who potshots out of the obituary thread, please? That election was over weeks ago, and quite frankly, I'm tired of fighting that fight. Thanks.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Restored on December 31, 2017, 01:53:49 pm
Back in the day when, according to some, things were the way they ought to be..... *****rollingeyes*****

#VirtueSignal
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 31, 2017, 03:44:07 pm
Can we leave the you-know-who potshots out of the obituary thread, please? That election was over weeks ago, and quite frankly, I'm tired of fighting that fight. Thanks.

Then don't.  I'm not tired of fighting for principles, for righteousness, for conservatism, or for decent behavior and equality (you know, the kind the Founding Fathers built into the system?)

If you think what I was referring to was only Moore, you are sadly mistaken.   There are a whole group of people talking about the "good old days," and this woman's suffering and shame was a significant part of those days.

It's important to remember that, jmyrle.   Don't shut truth out.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Mod2 on December 31, 2017, 03:51:37 pm
Could we please stay on topic? It's probably a good thing that a new Obituaries page starts tomorrow.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: musiclady on December 31, 2017, 05:44:14 pm
Could we please stay on topic? It's probably a good thing that a new Obituaries page starts tomorrow.

What I posted was on topic.......... about the death of a woman who was gang raped and her rapists set free by a white male jury.

Those weren't the "good old days."   That is a relevant comment to make on an obituary thread.

Completely.
Title: Re: Obituaries for 2017
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 31, 2017, 08:16:59 pm
What I posted was on topic.......... about the death of a woman who was gang raped and her rapists set free by a white male jury.

Those weren't the "good old days."   That is a relevant comment to make on an obituary thread.

Completely.
That wasn't a miscarriage of justice, it was an abortion, whether racism was relevant to the outcome or not (which might have been the same if she was just "poor white trash", too). Either way, there is a final Judge, and they cannot escape His jurisdiction.