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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1450 on: September 17, 2025, 10:32:04 pm »
It is when outside pressure is applied

That MAGA is embracing and excusing censorship isn't surprising to me. It's easy to support free expression and oppose cancel culture when the "other" team is engaging in it

Ive learned over the years that when someone says "I'm  for free speech, but..." it means they are for free speech as long as they approve of what's being said

Cancel culture exists on both sides of the political spectrum so it seems

Next up,  MAGA demands the reinstatement of the so called "Fairness Doctrine" which was rightfully repealed during the Reagan Administration

Actually, two large ABC network affiliates with hundreds of stations refused to air the show after what he said. Those stations now plan to replace that time slot with a tribute to Charlie Kirk.

That was the end of Kimmel.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1451 on: Today at 01:11:38 am »
Is this a standard for broadcast news or comedians @Canuck Conservative ??

Since 1934, broadcasters have been required to broadcast "in the public interest."  Outright lying is not in the public interest , and "Comedy" doesn't get an exception.  We've been reminded of the reason for that in the past week or so.   
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« Reply #1452 on: Today at 01:28:19 am »
Seems first thing 'Jody Foster' would do would be to check Tyler's and Zinn's communication history on their phones, laptops and gaming consoles to see if it was similar.
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« Reply #1453 on: Today at 01:31:00 am »
I say pop a cap in him and be done.

I mean, providing he is convicted... I ain't much for keeping murderers and rapists around. I mean, I get it when I guy finds his wife in the sack with his neighbor... I get why he might kill em both... and I can have some empathy there.

But cold blooded murder... Nope.

Same with rape... I can get date rape, where there might be mixed signals... but cold calculated rape of a stranger...

There just ain't no call to keep that around.

It ain't vengeance. Don't care to torture em, with an eye for an eye and all that. Just make em quit suckin air, and that's that.

Now,I get that keeping them alive, they might come to find their savior and try to make amends, and all that...

Well, they better pray fast, because they have till morning.


Some people work better under pressure.
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« Reply #1454 on: Today at 01:37:22 am »
The process speeds up immensely when...like McVeigh...you drop all appeals to your sentence and tell the normal bleeding-heart groups not to file an appeal on your behalf.
There remain a lot of questions about that event. John Does... missing video, other explosive devices, damage to the building inconsistent with the location and type of explosive. Andreas Strassmeier, Eloihim City, Carol Howe...rumors of whitewater documents in the building... ATF not showing up for work that day...
>poof< it all went away when McVeigh got the needle.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1455 on: Today at 01:43:14 am »
White heterosexual Christian males of Western European descent don't have civil rights.  Obama abolished them.
Obama set race relations back at least 50 years, and frankly, they are the worst they've been in my lifetime.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1456 on: Today at 02:58:00 am »
Obama set race relations back at least 50 years, and frankly, they are the worst they've been in my lifetime.

Obama: "Trayvon Martin could of been me." "You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon"

Obama put his thumb on the scale big time against George Zimmerman. Just as he tried to do with Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr (because he used a screwdriver to open his door and took offense to police actually questioning him and he resisted arrest).

Honestly, I wouldn't want to fight a false charge and the President at the same time. Zimmerman barely squeezed though the mashing he took from all sides.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1457 on: Today at 03:40:07 am »
Matt Walsh hits it on the nail (you can skip the first 6 minutes to get to the meat)...

Difference between the cancel culture the left left engages in vs the  canceling the right is now doing after Kirk's murder.

Point two... difference of free speech left vs right...

Very important points...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9T3ODZ4vno

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1458 on: Today at 03:42:40 am »
Obama: "Trayvon Martin could of been me." "You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon"

Obama put his thumb on the scale big time against George Zimmerman. Just as he tried to do with Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr (because he used a screwdriver to open his door and took offense to police actually questioning him and he resisted arrest).

Honestly, I wouldn't want to fight a false charge and the President at the same time. Zimmerman barely squeezed though the mashing he took from all sides.

Let's not forget Pam Bondi put her thumb on the Zimmerman scale too.  I haven't forgotten it.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1459 on: Today at 04:37:02 am »
Is this a standard for broadcast news or comedians??

It's a condition for getting the broadcast license from the Govt. in the first place.

Govt. recognizes (correctly) that broadcasters have an outsized influence on Society and public opinion, so they make sure that they only get a license on condition that they do not deliberately lie to the Public.

Jimmy Kimmel, as an employee of ABC, violated that condition by deliberately telling a lie. Now ABC is in trouble because of it, so they have every right to discipline/fire that troublesome employee. Plus, his ratings sucked.

And it's NOT "cancel culture", it's Consequence Culture. Don't lie, and you won't get fired. Duh.

(**BTW, Kimmel is reportedly so ticked off, he wants to get out of his contract with ABC and "go elsewhere", LOL)
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« Reply #1460 on: Today at 05:07:24 am »
There remain a lot of questions about that event. John Does... missing video, other explosive devices, damage to the building inconsistent with the location and type of explosive. Andreas Strassmeier, Eloihim City, Carol Howe...rumors of whitewater documents in the building... ATF not showing up for work that day...
>poof< it all went away when McVeigh got the needle.

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« Reply #1461 on: Today at 06:14:09 am »
Anyone remember when ABC cancelled Roseanne Barr when she made a tweet comparing Val Jar jar (Valerie Jarret) to an ape?
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« Reply #1462 on: Today at 07:27:10 am »
ABC Pulls 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' After Backlash Charlie Kirk Comments
Story at Variety:  https://t.co/41gX5a6vMn
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« Reply #1463 on: Today at 07:44:16 am »
Anyone remember when ABC cancelled Roseanne Barr when she made a tweet comparing Val Jar jar (Valerie Jarret) to an ape?

Yes, I do remember that

And I remember telling people that she didn’t lose her show because of what she said. She lost it because of who she said it about. If she were to say that about Clarence Thomas, she would’ve still had her show.


Reading the cheering on of censorship on this thread is very alarming. Despite the attempts to church it up, you all still are supporting censorship


 And I have no doubt that if this was a Democrat administration doing what Trump and his supporters are doing to opinions that they don’t like to hear, you all would be agreeing with me


But there seems to be a lot, and not just on this issue, but a lot of overlooking and cheering on many things that Donald Trump is doing that would never be allowed from a Democrat administration. I haven’t changed. I’m still the same Goldwater type conservative that I’ve always been. You all have changed because you’re afraid to be critical of Donald Trump.


What’s to stop the next Democrat administration  to cancel people like Matt Walsh or Ben Shapiro for “spreading lies and hate?” You all are short-term thinkers  because you believe you’ll have this power forever. I can just about guarantee that the next administration will be a Democrat one.

So now both the left and the right are engaged in cancel culture. And this is why I voted for the libertarian candidate in 2024.


You all sound just like liberal college students who try to silence conservative voices on campus. I never thought I would ever hear from a republican administration an attorney general, threatening to go after hate speech that doesn’t exist.


And I know you all believe that your cause of censorship is noble. You don’t think that the left believes the same thing? From what I’ve been reading about this Charlie Kirk murder, he was stopping hate. There was just some hate, in his mind, that was non-negotiable.


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« Reply #1464 on: Today at 08:05:29 am »
I don’t care for Jimmy Kimmel’s politics

I can honestly say I’ve never watched one show of his

But that doesn’t mean I want him silenced

I just choose not to watch his program. And what he said was very much a belief in left-wing circles that the shooter was a Trump supporter. He wasn’t advocating violence. He just said something that hurt MAGA feelings


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« Reply #1465 on: Today at 08:16:20 am »
He just said something that hurt MAGA feelings

He deliberately lied. There are consequences for lying.

There were multiple news conferences that detailed Tyler Robinson's left-wing beliefs and hatred of MAGA ... Kimmel ignored all those facts, and used his position of influence to deliberately lie to the Public. In the wake of an assassination, the last thing ABC needed was for one of their employees to pour gas on the fire.

All Kimmel had to do was STFU for a few weeks, talk about something else till the heat passed, and he would still be working.

But he was too stupid and unprofessional to do that ... to immature to control himself.

Now he's so pissed at ABC, he wants out of his contract ... ABC must be thanking their stars for a chance to finally get rid of this no-talent troublemaker!!
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« Reply #1466 on: Today at 08:16:33 am »
I don’t care for Jimmy Kimmel’s politics

I can honestly say I’ve never watched one show of his

But that doesn’t mean I want him silenced

I just choose not to watch his program. And what he said was very much a belief in left-wing circles that the shooter was a Trump supporter. He wasn’t advocating violence. He just said something that hurt MAGA feelings
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« Reply #1467 on: Today at 08:31:08 am »
See the pushback I’m getting… Lol

Not for what I said. But who I said it about. I would not be getting this pushback if I was talking about the Harris administration or the Biden administration.


Such as the state of our politics today. All tribal.

I would not change my mind when it comes to censorship, regardless who’s in the White House even if I did vote for that person


Unfortunately, too many adjust their political positions, not based on principles, but personalities and we’re seeing that here


Because I know for a fact that if it was Rachel Maddow that was murdered for her political beliefs and a Democrat administration and left were calling to cancel people like Jesse Watters or Greg Gutfeld, the howls on this forum would be epic


We are in a very dangerous position in this country.  How close are we to Canada or Europe were you can’t even be critical of Muslims without facing arrest?


I have relatives on the left so I get a good perspective on how they think. And they’re just like everybody here. They are more accommodating to Democrat politicians than they are republican politicians for doing some of the same things.
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« Reply #1468 on: Today at 08:34:29 am »
Former late-night comedian Jimmy Kimmel

Has Kimmel ever actually said anything funny?

Should read "alleged comedian Jimmy Kimmel"
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