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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1500 on: September 18, 2025, 03:22:08 pm »
In short, Kimmel's microphone isn't his. The owner of the microphone gets to dictate what is ultimately done with it.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1501 on: September 18, 2025, 03:44:24 pm »
Just tossing it out...

What if the CIA, with plausible deniability and signed NDAs, directed Kimmel to state what he did?

What if ABC wasn't aware Kimmel was a CIA contractor carrying out an operation?

What if Carr, the head of the FCC is now aware of all this?

Come on now...beats any 60 Minutes segment.
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« Reply #1502 on: September 18, 2025, 03:54:37 pm »
Nobody should tell a comedian what to say - The woke tried that already.
The comedian lives or dies by the crowd, as it should be.
It hasn’t been that way for years, even highly successful comedians have complained about being cancelled or just no longer working at colleges because the poor little mushy brains couldn’t handle hearing jokes that skewered not just those bastard conservatives, but their precious liberal heroes and ideals too. The reason that Gutfeld is so successful is that even though hey definitely lean right, they will take a shot at anyone.

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« Reply #1503 on: September 18, 2025, 03:56:44 pm »
Just tossing it out...

What if the CIA, with plausible deniability and signed NDAs, directed Kimmel to state what he did?

What if ABC wasn't aware Kimmel was a CIA contractor carrying out an operation?

What if Carr, the head of the FCC is now aware of all this?

Come on now...beats any 60 Minutes segment.

🤔I think there is a major flaw in all that, I don’t believe Kimmel is smart enough to be a CIA contractor and not brag about it if he was.

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« Reply #1504 on: September 18, 2025, 04:36:38 pm »
It hasn’t been that way for years, even highly successful comedians have complained about being cancelled or just no longer working at colleges because the poor little mushy brains couldn’t handle hearing jokes that skewered not just those bastard conservatives, but their precious liberal heroes and ideals too. The reason that Gutfeld is so successful is that even though hey definitely lean right, they will take a shot at anyone.

That's what makes it comedy. It is intrinsically busted if it is censored.  :shrug:

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« Reply #1505 on: September 18, 2025, 04:45:39 pm »
It was 1938, and it was on the radio...

I don't think the number who thought an actual invasion was as high as some think.

You had to have a radio, and electricity, too, to run it.  In 1938, a lot of places didn't.
You're right. I've read up on this, and there were a lot of factors in that:

1, of the people with radios, very few people were likely tuned into the program. It was an unsponsored program that was third place in its time slot.

2, newspapers were still bitter at radio for being free and competing with their paid product for news scoops. Unscrupulous publishers, like many of the tabloids of today, deliberately ginned up the handful of reports (mostly people listening to other shows who tuned in during those shows' commercial breaks) to humiliate radio as a medium.

3, Orson Welles ended up becoming a huge star not long after thanks to Citizen Kane and The Magnificent Ambersons. He likely used the broadcast (which he repeatedly advertised as fiction in line with then-FRC regulations) and the alleged reaction for publicity to get those films made.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1506 on: September 18, 2025, 05:23:37 pm »
You're right. I've read up on this, and there were a lot of factors in that:

1, of the people with radios, very few people were likely tuned into the program. It was an unsponsored program that was third place in its time slot.

2, newspapers were still bitter at radio for being free and competing with their paid product for news scoops. Unscrupulous publishers, like many of the tabloids of today, deliberately ginned up the handful of reports (mostly people listening to other shows who tuned in during those shows' commercial breaks) to humiliate radio as a medium.

3, Orson Welles ended up becoming a huge star not long after thanks to Citizen Kane and The Magnificent Ambersons. He likely used the broadcast (which he repeatedly advertised as fiction in line with then-FRC regulations) and the alleged reaction for publicity to get those films made.
Then there  was Howard Koch, who wrote the script for the radio play (and later went on to get an award for Casablanca)...
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1507 on: September 18, 2025, 06:14:34 pm »
Just tossing it out...

What if the CIA, with plausible deniability and signed NDAs, directed Kimmel to state what he did?

What if ABC wasn't aware Kimmel was a CIA contractor carrying out an operation?

What if Carr, the head of the FCC is now aware of all this?

Come on now...beats any 60 Minutes segment.

Chuck Barris already tried that gambit... I'd think ABC learned their lesson!
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1508 on: September 18, 2025, 06:55:27 pm »
In short, Kimmel's microphone isn't his. The owner of the microphone gets to dictate what is ultimately done with it.


And that is the bottom line. In reality the employer is in control.

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« Reply #1509 on: September 18, 2025, 07:13:13 pm »
Is it really so hard to understand that ABC suspending Kimmel's show is not censorship and has nothing to do with "free speech" or the First Amendment?

He made a defamatory, false, offensive statement in the wake of a horrendous and tragic event, and refused to walk it back. A number of ABC affiliates said they won't broadcast the show, which ABC knew would be bad for business. ABC also knows it's bad for business to publish libelous comments on its network.

CBS is ending Colbert's show because it's losing money. It's losing money because he isn't funny, and all he does is say, "F*** Trump." Kimmel followed Colbert's stellar example. He has a very low-rated show, in part because it's too much anti-Trump politics and not enough humor and entertainment. Kimmel, Colbert and Myers should sit down and watch 24 hours straight of Johnny Carson, and then another 24 hours of Jay Leno, to see how it's supposed to be done.

When the American public told Bud Light we don't want to buy your beer because your spokesman is a disgusting freak and you're pushing the transgender agenda, the company responded by adopting a new ad campaign (football, manly guys, etc.). More analogous to what's happened with Kimmel than anything even remotely resembling censorship.



Did Biden's FCC chairman threaten Bud Light??? No. So your Bud Light comparison falls flat with a big boom

Kimmel wasn't let go simply as part of a business decision. He was fired because of threats made by Brendan Carr, That's why this is a free speech issue.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/media/jimmy-kimmel-suspension-brendan-carr-trumps-fcc-chair-rcna232091

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/brendan-carr-abc-fcc-jimmy-kimmel-charlie-kirk-1236522406/
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1510 on: September 18, 2025, 07:24:11 pm »


Did Biden's FCC chairman threaten Bud Light??? No. So your Bud Light comparison falls flat with a big boom

Kimmel wasn't let go simply as part of a business decision. He was fired because of threats made by Brendan Carr, That's why this is a free speech issue.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/media/jimmy-kimmel-suspension-brendan-carr-trumps-fcc-chair-rcna232091

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/brendan-carr-abc-fcc-jimmy-kimmel-charlie-kirk-1236522406/
stupid response.

Bud did not celebrate murder and lie about how it was done.
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« Reply #1511 on: September 18, 2025, 07:25:11 pm »
because of threats made by Brendan Carr

Enforcing the laws on the books is now considered as a threat?? LOL

Let's recap ... ABC has a broadcast license, granted by the Govt., on the condition that it doesn't deliberately lie and deceive the Public.

Political commentator and alleged comedian Jimmy Kimmel - a direct employee of ABC - did that. He knew Robinson wasn't MAGA, but spread the lie anyway.

THAT's why ABC is in hot water now ... and, as an employer, they have every right to discipline/fire a trouble-making employee that created this mess out of nothing

The most amazing thing about this whole episode is the lack of maturity and professionalism by Jimmy Kimmel ... this guy is nothing but a childish frat-boy
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1512 on: September 18, 2025, 07:31:57 pm »
stupid response.

Bud did not celebrate murder and lie about how it was done.

But this isn't comparable to Bud Light

The Bud Light boycott was consumers without government intervention. That's why comparing this to the Bud Light boycott is a poor comparison

Hope that helps you
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1513 on: September 18, 2025, 07:32:42 pm »
Just for the record, broadcasters that use the public airwaves do not have a first amendment right to say whatever they please.

Their license comes with numerous speech limitations. They cannot curse, show nudity, etc.

It is the FCC's job to enforce those rules. If ABC thought the FCC was violating their first amendment rights they'd sue the FCC in court. They knew Kimmel crossed the line where he refused to walk it back, so they unloaded their problem.
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« Reply #1514 on: September 18, 2025, 07:35:15 pm »
Enforcing the laws on the books is now considered as a threat?? LOL

Let's recap ... ABC has a broadcast license, granted by the Govt., on the condition that it doesn't deliberately lie and deceive the Public.

Political commentator and alleged comedian Jimmy Kimmel - a direct employee of ABC - did that. He knew Robinson wasn't MAGA, but spread the lie anyway.

THAT's why ABC is in hot water now ... and, as an employer, they have every right to discipline/fire a trouble-making employee that created this mess out of nothing

The most amazing thing about this whole episode is the lack of maturity and professionalism by Jimmy Kimmel ... this guy is nothing but a childish frat-boy


Yet, if this was a Democratic FCC chairman going after conservatives commentators for claiming that Mellissa  Hortman's shooter in Minnesota was a leftists marxist, you would be howling at the moon. The law wasn't enforced for the sake of the law. It was "enforced" because Kimmel is a critic of this administration.
Such is the hypocrisy you find in organized religion and politics wink777

Who decides if something is a lie and /or someone is deliberately lying? Carr? Trump? Hate Speech enforcer Bondi??

They would not have fired Kimmel if not for the threats of the FCC chairman and you and others know it
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« Reply #1515 on: September 18, 2025, 07:42:55 pm »
I get that Kimmel isn't too popular with MAGA and it's orgasmic at the moment for them to see him punished for wrongspeak

But this could very easily come back to haunt them. Trump won't be in the White House forever
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« Reply #1516 on: September 18, 2025, 07:43:16 pm »
They would not have fired Kimmel if not for the threats of the FCC chairman and you and others know it

Get a grip, enforcing the exist laws is not "threats".

ABC violated the terms of their license by allowing an employee to deliberately spread a lie.

ABC is a business, and now they are disciplining that troublemaking employee ... what's the problem???
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1517 on: September 18, 2025, 07:44:14 pm »
Rick Scott Leads Senate to Unanimously Establish October 14 as National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk

The U.S. Senate on Thursday unanimously approved a resolution led by Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) designating October 14, 2025, as a National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk, honoring the late Turning Point USA founder’s legacy of faith, free speech, and civic engagement.

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« Reply #1518 on: September 18, 2025, 07:46:18 pm »
ABC is a business, and now they are disciplining that troublemaking employee ... what's the problem???

In particular, ABC is owned by Disney, a corporation that is right now feeling the enmity of the conservatives and Christians who they have deliberately and purposefully alienated over the past thirty or forty years.

Disney is pulling the strings here. I guarantee it.
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« Reply #1519 on: September 18, 2025, 07:48:52 pm »
Rick Scott Leads Senate to Unanimously Establish October 14 as National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk

The U.S. Senate on Thursday unanimously approved a resolution led by Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) designating October 14, 2025, as a National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk, honoring the late Turning Point USA founder’s legacy of faith, free speech, and civic engagement.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/09/18/rick-scott-leads-senate-to-unanimously-establish-october-14-as-national-day-of-remembrance-for-charlie-kirk/

The vote will not be unanimous. I even have my doubts that Susan Collins or Lisa Murkowski will vote for it. I hope I am wrong about Collins and Murkowski.
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« Reply #1520 on: September 18, 2025, 07:50:05 pm »
Get a grip, enforcing the exist laws is not "threats".

ABC violated the terms of their license by allowing an employee to deliberately spread a lie.

ABC is a business, and now they are disciplining that troublemaking employee ... what's the problem???

Ok...second time

What evidence do you have that the lie was deliberate and who gets to determine that?
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« Reply #1521 on: September 18, 2025, 07:57:12 pm »
Ok...second time

What evidence do you have that the lie was deliberate and who gets to determine that?

Kimmel works at a news network. There is no excuse for him to be repeating a falsehood that his network news division knew was untrue.

Keep in mind here that the FCC views ABC as an organic whole and not the sum of its parts. Kimmel's comments did not take place in a vacuum.

ABC is then who would pay a penalty for defending Kimmel's comments.

Also is the fact that for many young people Kimmel is a news source. In the monologue statement he is recapping current events (news) and is then acting in the capacity of a reporter and not just a mere comedian.

There's a lot of meat on the bone here for the FCC to bite into if they so desire and the lawyers at ABC know this.
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« Reply #1522 on: September 18, 2025, 08:02:58 pm »
I get that Kimmel isn't too popular with MAGA and it's orgasmic at the moment for them to see him punished for wrongspeak

But this could very easily come back to haunt them. Trump won't be in the White House forever
Trump didn't fire Kimmel, the network did.

People get stuff wrong on TV all the time, but he knew better, and kept up the lie--and then, refused to walk it back.

What network wants that sort of trouble?
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« Reply #1523 on: September 18, 2025, 08:06:32 pm »
Kimmel works at a news network. There is no excuse for him to be repeating a falsehood that his network news division knew was untrue.

Keep in mind here that the FCC views ABC as an organic whole and not the sum of its parts. Kimmel's comments did not take place in a vacuum.

ABC is then who would pay a penalty for defending Kimmel's comments.

Also is the fact that for many young people Kimmel is a news source. In the monologue statement he is recapping current events (news) and is then acting in the capacity of a reporter and not just a mere comedian.

There's a lot of meat on the bone here for the FCC to bite into if they so desire and the lawyers at ABC know this.

Ok..I'll ask you but I know I won't get an answer

What evidence do you have that Kimmel deliberately lied? Answer..you have none

This is not about enforcing laws. I believe the laws will be applied selectively. If Watters or Gutfield said somethin false, I guarantee you the FCC under Trump won't go after them

This is about silencing Trump critics. Make no mistake. Too many here are cheering this on yet are not questioning the ramifications of what's being done here.

Again, the Attorney General under Trump talked about going after "Hate speech," and no eyebrows were raised here. In any other Democrat administration, there would be a thread on why defining hate speech is hard. But since it's Trump, he gets a pass
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« Reply #1524 on: September 18, 2025, 08:07:54 pm »
Trump didn't fire Kimmel, the network did.


:thud: :facepalm2: Under pressure from the FCC
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« Reply #1525 on: September 18, 2025, 08:09:07 pm »
Ok...second time

What evidence do you have that the lie was deliberate and who gets to determine that?

That makes not one damned bit of difference. ABC determined that one of their employees was doing damage to their company and pulled his plug as they have every right to do.
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« Reply #1526 on: September 18, 2025, 08:10:55 pm »
Just for the record, broadcasters that use the public airwaves do not have a first amendment right to say whatever they please.

I guess the issue for ABC is why suspend Kimmel and not Sunny Hosting or Ana Navarro on The View




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« Reply #1527 on: September 18, 2025, 08:13:20 pm »
That makes not one damned bit of difference. ABC determined that one of their employees was doing damage to their company and pulled his plug as they have every right to do.

And you would be screaming "Communists" if this was done by a Democrat administration to a conservative commentator :laugh:
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« Reply #1528 on: September 18, 2025, 08:19:28 pm »
And you would be screaming "Communists" if this was done by a Democrat administration to a conservative commentator :laugh:

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« Reply #1529 on: September 18, 2025, 08:21:42 pm »
Ok..I'll ask you but I know I won't get an answer

What evidence do you have that Kimmel deliberately lied? Answer..you have none

You are missing my point. The FCC does not see this as Kimmel's words but the words of ABC if they choose to defend them. ABC chose not to defend these words.

Kimmel's intent is irrelevant to the FCC.

It was, however, obvious to anyone with eyes and ears that his intent was to slander Charlie Kirk and to slander millions of Americans who want to Make America Great Again.
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« Reply #1530 on: September 18, 2025, 09:03:05 pm »

What evidence do you have that Kimmel deliberately lied? Answer..you have none


When was the last time Kimmel shilled for the republican side (by mistake of course)?
 
Never.

If things were 50/50, Kimmel wouldn't 100% of the time be on just one side. If examining patterns of randomness, Kimmel would be a case study for a person that never crossed the party line.

But also if one looks at it, all his stuff goes through a group of people that write his shumck.... so it wasn't just him making a one time mistake, it was funneled through a sewer of liberal writers with access to the center of the news gathering.

Discernment.... Kimmel knew exactly what he was doing, his past when discerned doesn't show filter when he could take a jab or not. It isn't a comedy show anymore, it is an sounding room to play to the liberal crowd that likes his political position.
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« Reply #1531 on: September 18, 2025, 09:24:44 pm »
Here's the president threatening media critics. 

If it'll help, some of you can close your eyes and imagine a democrat said this... :silly:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/18/politics/video/trump-jimmy-kimmel-abc-late-night-hosts-fcc-collins-digvid
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1532 on: September 18, 2025, 09:27:03 pm »
BS! 100% USDA Choice grade A.

Ya..sure

You would be giving your support to a Democrat president if a FOX news commentator said something that was untrue and that administration threatened Fox's broadcast license

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1533 on: September 18, 2025, 09:40:45 pm »
Right. Blame Trump. Everyone does.

(Jimmy Kimmel had the chance to walk it back and didn't.)
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1534 on: September 18, 2025, 10:34:08 pm »
Kimmel and Fits: Bluesky Lefties Cry for All-Brands ABC/Disney Boycott Over Late-Night Host’s Ouster
https://twitchy.com/warren-squire/2025/09/18/thursday-bluesky-leftists-are-coordinating-mass-boycott-campaigns-of-abc-properties-for-jimmy-kimmel-n2419151?utm_source=twdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&bcid=fc85d9fd0a377773055f1925941bbce485d3c69b5dace0c187ab5912dd7d0cd7&lctg=26251812

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So you can guess what idiocy happened next - calls for widespread boycotts of all ABC properties. (READ)



I think that it is time that the Right, the Silent Majority and all of Kirk's followers shows them what a boycott should look like and shut down CNN & Msnbc. :silly:
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1535 on: September 18, 2025, 10:38:14 pm »
Rick Scott Leads Senate to Unanimously Establish October 14 as National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk

The U.S. Senate on Thursday unanimously approved a resolution led by Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) designating October 14, 2025, as a National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk, honoring the late Turning Point USA founder’s legacy of faith, free speech, and civic engagement.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1536 on: September 18, 2025, 10:40:37 pm »
One day later, and Kimmel is still running his mouth.  Can we put the 'censorship' lie to rest now?
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« Reply #1537 on: September 18, 2025, 10:41:56 pm »
It was, however, obvious to anyone with eyes and ears that [Kimmel's] intent was to slander Charlie Kirk . . .

. . . and Trump.
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« Reply #1538 on: September 18, 2025, 10:45:16 pm »

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We’ve all made jokes at Jimmy Kimmel’s expense. But Mr. Kimmel is a fellow artist, and I am in fact heartbroken to see the way he has been treated. I believe he is, in his heart of hearts, a good and decent fellow, devoid of malice and hate.

Just kidding, Jimbo. Eat shit.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1539 on: September 18, 2025, 10:56:17 pm »
I guess the issue for ABC is why suspend Kimmel and not Sunny Hosting or Ana Navarro on The View
Affiliates.

A few weeks ago, when the Colbert cancellation was in the news, Kimmel made the comment that late night shows aren't profitable on their own but are subsidized by affiliate fees, the money that each station in the network pays said network for the right to carry the programming. A portion of ABC's affiliate fee revenue is earmarked toward Kimmel's show.

Fast forward to this week. Now, keep in mind, that by and large, five companies control the vast majority of local ABC affiliates: Sinclair, Nexstar, Scripps, Gray and Hearst. Nexstar and Sinclair both announced they were no longer going to carry Kimmel.  I am not familiar with the terms of the network agreement, but if a huge chunk of your affiliate base stops purchasing a show, it's no longer feasible to keep distributing it. Not only does it mean less affiliate fee money (possibly) but it (certainly) means advertisers are going to  see much smaller ratings and pay much less for commercials. Ironically, the advertisers will likely pull their programming anyway, a problem the left created itself: ever since Sandra Fluke in 2012, a lot of advertising agencies won't touch political content.

As for why not The View... well... the affiliates haven't cancelled it yet. My best guess is that they get enough hate-watching to keep the ad rates viable. Plus having an all-female, partially of color panel helps the DEI score, something white, male Kimmel can't do.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1540 on: September 18, 2025, 11:01:38 pm »

https://twitter.com/RyanMattaMedia/status/1968339793332555916

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1541 on: September 18, 2025, 11:12:51 pm »
That makes not one damned bit of difference. ABC determined that one of their employees was doing damage to their company and pulled his plug as they have every right to do.

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It's literally that simple, but a whole bunch of other "facts" keep getting added to it so that people seriously can't recognize the truth.


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« Reply #1542 on: September 18, 2025, 11:50:54 pm »
I get that Kimmel isn't too popular with MAGA and it's orgasmic at the moment for them to see him punished for wrongspeak

But this could very easily come back to haunt them. Trump won't be in the White House forever

Democrats will do it anyway, regardless of anything Trump does or does not do.

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« Reply #1543 on: September 19, 2025, 12:49:34 am »
This argument is so damned funny.

The decision to pull Kimmel’s show off the air was made by Rob Iger and Disney Sr. Execs. Hardly MAGA.

In essence, we are watching the Left raging against actions by Leftists.

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They’re busy trying to gaslight Trump and MAGA to change the topic away from the reaction to Charlie’s murder.

Let’s not let them do that.
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« Reply #1544 on: September 19, 2025, 01:28:50 am »
This argument is so damned funny.

The decision to pull Kimmel’s show off the air was made by Rob Iger and Disney Sr. Execs. Hardly MAGA.

In essence, we are watching the Left raging against actions by Leftists.

 :pop41:

They’re busy trying to gaslight Trump and MAGA to change the topic away from the reaction to Charlie’s murder.

Let’s not let them do that.


Do people on this forum seek out sources of information beyond what is stamped and approved by the Trump administration?


They dumped Jimmy Kimmel under pressure from Trump’s FCC chairman. They’re even threatening to go after others


When Trump said he could shoot someone on fifth Avenue and still keep his supporters, he was not kidding.

I swear to God that if Trump proposed gun control, a certain percentage of people on his forum, would happily turn in their guns because their reasoning  would be if Trump takes my guns, the Democrats can’t


And to add insult to injury, we’re not even getting a booming economy out of this presidency. I’m still waiting for that crow  I was told I was gonna be eating by mid September when I was critical of what Trump’s tariffs would do to the economy
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« Reply #1545 on: September 19, 2025, 02:03:38 am »

Do people on this forum seek out sources of information beyond what is stamped and approved by the Trump administration?

They dumped Jimmy Kimmel under pressure from Trump’s FCC chairman. They’re even threatening to go after others

When Trump said he could shoot someone on fifth Avenue and still keep his supporters, he was not kidding.

I swear to God that if Trump proposed gun control, a certain percentage of people on his forum, would happily turn in their guns because their reasoning  would be if Trump takes my guns, the Democrats can’t


And to add insult to injury, we’re not even getting a booming economy out of this presidency. I’m still waiting for that crow  I was told I was gonna be eating by mid September when I was critical of what Trump’s tariffs would do to the economy

Hmmm... do you check anything other than HuffPost?

Broadcast networks, under FCC licensing, cannot knowingly air false reports that cause public harm (per the broadcast hoax rule). They also risk losing their license if they deliberately distort news. On top of FCC enforcement, they face civil lawsuits for defamation if false reports damage reputations. (Please fact check me at will).

So basically, the timeline went like this...

Jimmy Kimmel deliberately distorted the news, and quite possibly engaged in what SCOTUS has defined as "actual malice" (New York Times Co vs. Sullivan).

The FCC threatened to take action on Kimmel's dialogue as a violation of The Communications Act of 1934 because ("NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW") of Kimmel's "reckless disregard" for the truth -- the shooter had confessed to several people, text communications which clearly determined the shooter's guilt, etc. -- and those things had been widely reported long before airtime.

Kimmel's "joke" was about to cost people millions (if not billions) of dollars, and they dumped him like a hot potato.

Beautifully organic.

My economy is booming. Not sure what you see wrong with your economy, but that would probably boil down to some inadequate personal financial decisions. Just my opinion. happy77

I would like to see gas prices go down.

We could probably get those down over $1/gallon if government just stopped taxing the Shiite out of it.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1546 on: September 19, 2025, 03:20:10 am »

Do people on this forum seek out sources of information beyond what is stamped and approved by the Trump administration?


They dumped Jimmy Kimmel under pressure from Trump’s FCC chairman. They’re even threatening to go after others


When Trump said he could shoot someone on fifth Avenue and still keep his supporters, he was not kidding.

I swear to God that if Trump proposed gun control, a certain percentage of people on his forum, would happily turn in their guns because their reasoning  would be if Trump takes my guns, the Democrats can’t


And to add insult to injury, we’re not even getting a booming economy out of this presidency. I’m still waiting for that crow  I was told I was gonna be eating by mid September when I was critical of what Trump’s tariffs would do to the economy
The difference between Trump and Biden/Obama is this. Kimmel lied. The only person on the Right in similar straits was Alex Jones. The left got him. Similar deal, only Jones had postulated in his own way that the Sandy Hook event was staged and not a killing. So the lawyers who dragged him out in court made one (a killing).

If that could happen to Alex Jones, it could happen to ABC. Imagine a MAGA class action suit for defamation, etc., which is what ate a chunk out of Alex Jones. The top people at ABC did. They canned Kimmel when he refused to walk it back. They felt they had no choice.

Enough with blaming Trump and acting like this is a one-off and something new.
The FCC will uphold the law, and against anyone out of line. If they don't the trial lawyers will.

Sheesh!

(And no, I will have my guns as long as I live, and have only made 60K more this year than last year, and prices for fuel and many other things have dropped here.)
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1547 on: September 19, 2025, 07:08:50 am »
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Just kidding, Jimbo. Eat shit.

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« Reply #1548 on: September 19, 2025, 07:14:42 am »
Had me going there for a minute

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« Reply #1549 on: September 19, 2025, 10:06:12 am »
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