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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1600 on: September 19, 2025, 08:18:50 pm »
Quite the opposite is true.
If we find ourselves satisfied by bread and circuses... Brylcreme and a Dentyne schwing.... Shiny sh*t and grandstanding... THAT is the death of this republic.

I'm still pissed that I paid $2.39 for a Snickers today that cost me a nickel when I played Little League.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1601 on: September 19, 2025, 08:21:07 pm »
Saw this on Bookface. 

Charlie and Erika.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1329854432143851

Thanks for sharing that.
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« Reply #1602 on: September 19, 2025, 08:23:18 pm »
Yep. All that's to be expected. When Ross Perot talked about the 'great sucking sound' of jobs going south of the border, an awful lot of the folks who made parts were elsewhere. I recall choosing between brake drums made in Mexico or China, and that hasn't changed much.
It will take time to get those jobs back, for the market to hurt enough for it to be profitable to make parts here, (and that includes computer bits), and it will take some rethinking the environmental regulations that helped choke domestic producers to death. I won't even address unions.


There it is in a nutshell - Endemic problems that caused business to leave our shores for greener pastures - And which of any of those problems has been fixed? (*none*)

So how is leading em back to the barn with a nose twitch going to work? The same problems for business here, remain. They are 'coming home' to the very same troubles that made em leave.

Fix the problems and they will come on their own.

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As for used cars, if you have a good one, drive it till the wheels fall off. Why go into enormous debt at high interest for a gizmoed up ride that's made of plastic, and has more points of failure than the electrical grid?

My youngest is 25 this year, and I'm talking about vehicles, not grandkids.
But I kinda rode that, because I sold 5 project pickups this year I wasn't going to have the time or money to restore, anyway. I trimmed the herd at a good profit, even with inflation. So it can work both ways.

You're preachin to the choir  happy77 ... But go try and source parts for that old iron now.


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« Reply #1603 on: September 19, 2025, 08:26:30 pm »
I'm still pissed that I paid $2.39 for a Snickers today that cost me a nickel when I played Little League.

Another few years and that will be five bucks... A sawbuck for your grandkids. And then you wonder why I bark about 5T more bucks.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1604 on: September 19, 2025, 08:29:51 pm »
Thanks for sharing that.


That was raw.  I love it. 

Edit.  I hope it wasn't AI.  With FB you never know,
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« Reply #1605 on: September 19, 2025, 08:34:20 pm »
And then you wonder why I bark about 5T more bucks.

Yep.  If you don't like your currency being devalued, then stop defending politicians while they are in the act of devaluing our currency, @DCPatriot .

And I'm pissed that the candy bar you paid 5¢ for is twice as big as today's candy bars.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1606 on: September 19, 2025, 08:38:47 pm »
I'm still pissed that I paid $2.39 for a Snickers today that cost me a nickel when I played Little League.
Hold on. Just think of all the chemicals that have been added since you were in Little League (with Ty Cobb?).  :laugh:
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1607 on: September 19, 2025, 08:41:49 pm »
Yep.  If you don't like your currency being devalued, then stop defending politicians while they are in the act of devaluing our currency, @DCPatriot .

And I'm pissed that the candy bar you paid 5¢ for is twice as big as today's candy bars.

LOL!  I'm old enough to remember it was a "Sugar Shortage" due to a rough hurricane season or some other happy horsesh*t.

They watched the Big Oil Companies get away with it with naval blockades in the Middle East...or a rough hurricane season.

And then there was the Florida Orange Growers Association....
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1608 on: September 19, 2025, 08:42:43 pm »
Hold on. Just think of all the chemicals that have been added since you were in Little League (with Ty Cobb?).  :laugh:


He was buying the cig trading cards back then.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1609 on: September 19, 2025, 08:50:00 pm »
Hold on. Just think of all the chemicals that have been added since you were in Little League (with Ty Cobb?).  :laugh:

I'll have you know that Warren Spahn's father (Edward Spahn) was one of the coaches of my 10yr-12yr PAL (Police Athletic League) team.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1610 on: September 19, 2025, 08:52:39 pm »
There it is in a nutshell - Endemic problems that caused business to leave our shores for greener pastures - And which of any of those problems has been fixed? (*none*)

So how is leading em back to the barn with a nose twitch going to work? The same problems for business here, remain. They are 'coming home' to the very same troubles that made em leave.

Fix the problems and they will come on their own.
Well, that''s why I mentioned Ross...That's when this started in earnest. Parts for 'American Made' cars were coming from all over. Even ERTL toys (die-cast cars, construction equipment, etc. --nice toys) moved South...and it seemed like a race for the border. NAFTA and its successsor agreements coupled with increasing environmental regulations, sometimes coming so fast that the last refit wasn't done before the next set of regs came out, made making things here difficult, if not impossible, if you were going to show a profit.
So business being what it is (not a charity), the shops were moved elsewhere. It's a self-inflicted wound. It may have benefited stockholders, but the guys who got the pink slip, sometimes whole towns full of them, were stuck hard. It hit the logging and lumber industry out your way, too. We all saw some version of it between the coasts in flyover country, and it took the shiny off what became the Rust Belt, too.


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You're preachin to the choir  happy77 ... But go try and source parts for that old iron now.
Whip out your Google and look. You'd be surprised how many parts are being made new, from sheet metal to lights to engine parts. They likely cost more than you had in the vehicle when you bought it, but they are out there.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1611 on: September 19, 2025, 09:25:09 pm »
His audience was 129,000. No advertiser is going to waste nationwide bucks on that.

Neither are the stations carrying it..
  They can get more revenue running reruns of Gilligan's Island.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1612 on: September 19, 2025, 09:37:42 pm »
Neither are the stations carrying it..
  They can get more revenue running reruns of Gilligan's Island.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1613 on: September 19, 2025, 10:23:24 pm »
I'll have you know that Warren Spahn's father (Edward Spahn) was one of the coaches of my 10yr-12yr PAL (Police Athletic League) team.

Spahn and Sain, and two days of rain.



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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1614 on: September 20, 2025, 01:20:31 am »
Noticed on PJ Media a story about a virgil for CK held in Boston where two men were arrested for disrupting it...

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/

One arrested was a minor (not much info given), the other seems to be a rebel-rouser antifa jerk with a bullhorn that goes around and does Antifa/BLM/defund the police crapola. His name is Antuan Castro Del Rio (also goes by Antuan) and has a movie credit at IMDB (movie database website).

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm13090675/

Yes, with half a beard and mustache... 

Also found an interview with him at Youtube...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJLoTHWG6XE

This is the degenerates we are dealing with... he describes himself as a weirdo w/ the terrorist "fro"...

I figured @pjcomix would find him interesting.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1615 on: September 20, 2025, 08:21:51 am »
Omar: I Shared Video Blaming Kirk for His Own Death Because I Agreed with ‘a Lot’ in It

On Friday’s broadcast of CNN’s “The Source,” Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) stated that she reposted a video saying Charlie Kirk was Dr. Frankenstein and assassinated by his own monster “Because there were a lot of things in the video that I did agree with. Obviously, we share videos, we don’t have to agree with every single word, but I do believe he was a reprehensible, hateful man.”

Host Kaitlan Collin asked, “There was a town hall that you had six days ago. You called Kirk a ‘hateful man,’ and you had reposted a video that I’m sure you’ve seen, you’ve taken criticism for. It’s a video that called him a reprehensible human being and said Kirk was Dr. Frankenstein and his monster shot him through the neck. Why repost that video?”

Omar responded, “Because there were a lot of things in the video that I did agree with. Obviously, we share videos, we don’t have to agree with every single word, but I do believe he was a reprehensible, hateful man. Like, that is my view of the words that he has said about every single identity that I belong to. He didn’t believe that we should have equal access to anything. He also just didn’t even believe I could be smart enough, I could have thoughts that could be equal to a white man.”

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1616 on: September 20, 2025, 10:51:27 am »
Omar: I Shared Video Blaming Kirk for His Own Death Because I Agreed with ‘a Lot’ in It

On Friday’s broadcast of CNN’s “The Source,” Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) stated that she reposted a video saying Charlie Kirk was Dr. Frankenstein and assassinated by his own monster “Because there were a lot of things in the video that I did agree with. Obviously, we share videos, we don’t have to agree with every single word, but I do believe he was a reprehensible, hateful man.”

Host Kaitlan Collin asked, “There was a town hall that you had six days ago. You called Kirk a ‘hateful man,’ and you had reposted a video that I’m sure you’ve seen, you’ve taken criticism for. It’s a video that called him a reprehensible human being and said Kirk was Dr. Frankenstein and his monster shot him through the neck. Why repost that video?”

Omar responded, “Because there were a lot of things in the video that I did agree with. Obviously, we share videos, we don’t have to agree with every single word, but I do believe he was a reprehensible, hateful man. Like, that is my view of the words that he has said about every single identity that I belong to. He didn’t believe that we should have equal access to anything. He also just didn’t even believe I could be smart enough, I could have thoughts that could be equal to a white man.”

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https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/09/19/omar-i-shared-video-blaming-kirk-for-his-own-death-because-i-agreed-with-a-lot-in-it/

This kind of crap must not stand.  How this muzzle wench was able to become a rep.  is a true testament that Americans have to be the dumbest or most gullible folks on earth.   Didn't 9-11 mean or teach anything to the masses?

IMO, her comments since the CK murder are more than enough grounds to deport.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1617 on: September 20, 2025, 10:58:56 am »
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1618 on: September 20, 2025, 11:55:54 am »
This kind of crap must not stand.  How this muzzle wench was able to become a rep. is a true testament that Americans have to be the dumbest or most gullible folks on earth.   Didn't 9-11 mean or teach anything to the masses?

IMO, her comments since the CK murder are more than enough grounds to deport.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1619 on: September 20, 2025, 12:00:33 pm »
I am hearing that one of the lefty nutbags shot up an ABC TV station in California. Apparently angry that ABC fired Jimmy Kimmel.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1620 on: September 20, 2025, 12:07:59 pm »
I am hearing that one of the lefty nutbags shot up an ABC TV station in California. Apparently angry that ABC fired Jimmy Kimmel.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1621 on: September 20, 2025, 12:31:23 pm »
I am hearing that one of the lefty nutbags shot up an ABC TV station in California. Apparently angry that ABC fired Jimmy Kimmel.
Probably the same lefty nutbags who shot up a Tesla dealership a few months ago.

edit to add:  Anibal Hernandez-Santana, 64, was arrested for firing shots into the window of ABC10 in Sacramento yesterday. An X account that appears to be his "contains a steady stream of anti-Trump commentary," according to Variety.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1622 on: September 20, 2025, 09:03:19 pm »
TPUSA: Surgeon calls Charlie Kirk’s bullet wound ‘a miracle’ that saved others


https://twitter.com/AndrewKolvet/status/1969551427648569633

Turning Point USA spokesman Andrew Kolvet said Saturday that even in death, Charlie Kirk may have saved lives.In a post on X, Kolvet addressed online discussion about the lack of an exit wound after Kirk was shot on Sept. 10. He said he spoke directly with the surgeon who worked on Kirk at the hospital.

According to Kolvet, the surgeon explained that the round “absolutely should have gone through, which is very very normal for a high powered, high velocity round. I’ve seen wounds from this caliber many times and they always just go through everything. This would have taken a moose or two down, an elk, etc.”

But in this case, the bullet stopped. “It was an absolute miracle that someone else didn’t get killed,” the surgeon reportedly told Kolvet, noting that dozens of staff, students, and special guests had been standing behind Kirk inside the tent at Utah Valley University.

Kolvet said the doctor described Kirk’s bone as “so healthy” and “so impressive that he’s like the man of steel.” The bullet was eventually found lodged just beneath the skin.

“Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him,” Kolvet wrote. “Remarkable. Miraculous.”
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1623 on: September 21, 2025, 11:56:54 am »
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The conspiracy nuts are at it again, spreading wild rumors about Charlie Kirk’s assassination like it’s some deep-state plot, but TPUSA’s longtime executive director Andrew Kolvet just shut them down with cold, hard facts from the surgeon himself. In a post on X that’s cutting through the noise, Kolvet addressed the “lack of an exit wound” theory head-on, explaining it’s no mystery—it’s a miracle.



The poor guy was shot dead in front of our eyes.
Let him rest in peace and respect his family's need to grieve
Sad that this needs to be talked about, but let’s turn every negative into a positive and continue to expose demons.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1624 on: September 21, 2025, 01:54:24 pm »
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1625 on: September 21, 2025, 10:40:24 pm »

https://twitter.com/RyanMattaMedia/status/1968339793332555916

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Erika Kirk Reveals Charlie Did Not Wear A Bulletproof Vest On The Day He Was Assassinated
https://100percentfedup.com/erika-kirk-reveals-charlie-did-not-wear-bulletproof/

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Now tell me how a 30-06 round at 200yds that did not have a so called vest to bounce off of, did not go clear through a man's neck. Nothing in these reports makes sense. Everything is BS coming out of these reports.

We are being smoked and lied to, every step of the way.

“Man of Steel”: Coroner Says No Exit Wound Because Bullet Stopped By Charlie Kirk’s Incredibly “Healthy and Dense” Bones
https://100percentfedup.com/man-steel-coroner-says-no-exit-wound-because/

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1626 on: September 22, 2025, 05:16:49 am »

As for used cars, if you have a good one, drive it till the wheels fall off. Why go into enormous debt at high interest for a gizmoed up ride that's made of plastic, and has more points of failure than the electrical grid?

My youngest is 25 this year, and I'm talking about vehicles, not grandkids.
But I kinda rode that, because I sold 5 project pickups this year I wasn't going to have the time or money to restore, anyway. I trimmed the herd at a good profit, even with inflation. So it can work both ways.

Cash for clunkers kinda ruined the used car market and made buying a used one as expensive as driving a new one off the lot.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1627 on: September 22, 2025, 05:17:20 am »
More

https://twitter.com/chrismartenson/status/1969861919789219997

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1628 on: September 22, 2025, 05:35:31 am »
Erika Kirk Reveals Charlie Did Not Wear A Bulletproof Vest On The Day He Was Assassinated
https://100percentfedup.com/erika-kirk-reveals-charlie-did-not-wear-bulletproof/

@bigheadfred@Sighlass

Now tell me how a 30-06 round at 200yds that did not have a so called vest to bounce off of, did not go clear through a man's neck. Nothing in these reports makes sense. Everything is BS coming out of these reports.

We are being smoked and lied to, every step of the way.

“Man of Steel”: Coroner Says No Exit Wound Because Bullet Stopped By Charlie Kirk’s Incredibly “Healthy and Dense” Bones
https://100percentfedup.com/man-steel-coroner-says-no-exit-wound-because/

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Here is a video of a 200yds deer kill with a 30-06

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=769IcPgq_TQ

And this is what they are saying that was used on Kirk.

BULL!

We are being smoked and lied to, every step of the way.

Gee, And I found a neck shot on a deer also.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1629 on: September 22, 2025, 08:42:56 am »
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1630 on: September 22, 2025, 09:34:01 am »
WATCH: Kash Patel says FBI probing 'all hand gestures' as potential 'signals' near Charlie Kirk during assassination



On the same day Americans honored slain civil-rights leader Charlie Kirk, FBI Director Kash Patel on Sunday said the bureau is investigating all theories concerning the assassination, including "hand gestures observed as potential 'signals'" immediately prior to the shooting.

Patel said: "We are meticulously investigating theories and questions, including the location from where the shot was taken, the possibility of accomplices, the text message confession and related conversations, Discord chats, the angle of the shot and bullet impact, how the weapon was transported, hand gestures observed as potential 'signals' near Charlie at the time of his assassination, and visitors to the alleged shooter's residence in the hours and days leading up to September 10, 2025."

Videos have emerged of hand gestures, with some claiming they are military-style signals.

https://www.wnd.com/2025/09/watch-kash-patel-says-fbi-probing-all-hand/https://www.wnd.com/2025/09/watch-kash-patel-says-fbi-probing-all-hand/

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« Reply #1631 on: September 22, 2025, 09:36:53 am »
And this is what they are saying that was used on Kirk.

BULL!

We are being smoked and lied to, every step of the way.

Gee, And I found a neck shot on a deer also.

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As I said in my earlier post I spin no theories, but I agree that that explanation is bunk. A 30-06 is not going to be stopped by any bone.

They need to go back to the drawing board and come up with something plausible.
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« Reply #1632 on: September 22, 2025, 10:26:14 am »
WATCH: Kash Patel says FBI probing 'all hand gestures' as potential 'signals' near Charlie Kirk during assassination
The only ones I've seen accused of hand signals are two of Charlie's inner circle, including Frank Turek, who spoke at the funeral - and that's utter BS.

The "plant" asking the question about transgender shootings seconds before the shot was fired is one of those who should be investigated.

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« Reply #1633 on: September 22, 2025, 11:06:17 am »
The only ones I've seen accused of hand signals are two of Charlie's inner circle, including Frank Turek, who spoke at the funeral - and that's utter BS.

The "plant" asking the question about transgender shootings seconds before the shot was fired is one of those who should be investigated.

Totally agree, on both points.
Besides, logistically speaking, if you were going to be there giving someone hand signals would you really want to be right next to the intended target? That just seems stupid on the face of it.
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« Reply #1634 on: September 22, 2025, 12:52:01 pm »
Omar: I Shared Video Blaming Kirk for His Own Death Because I Agreed with ‘a Lot’ in It

On Friday’s broadcast of CNN’s “The Source,” Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) stated that she reposted a video saying Charlie Kirk was Dr. Frankenstein and assassinated by his own monster “Because there were a lot of things in the video that I did agree with. Obviously, we share videos, we don’t have to agree with every single word, but I do believe he was a reprehensible, hateful man.”

Host Kaitlan Collin asked, “There was a town hall that you had six days ago. You called Kirk a ‘hateful man,’ and you had reposted a video that I’m sure you’ve seen, you’ve taken criticism for. It’s a video that called him a reprehensible human being and said Kirk was Dr. Frankenstein and his monster shot him through the neck. Why repost that video?”

Omar responded, “Because there were a lot of things in the video that I did agree with. Obviously, we share videos, we don’t have to agree with every single word, but I do believe he was a reprehensible, hateful man. Like, that is my view of the words that he has said about every single identity that I belong to. He didn’t believe that we should have equal access to anything. He also just didn’t even believe I could be smart enough, I could have thoughts that could be equal to a white man.”

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https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/09/19/omar-i-shared-video-blaming-kirk-for-his-own-death-because-i-agreed-with-a-lot-in-it/

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« Reply #1635 on: September 22, 2025, 12:58:02 pm »
As I said in my earlier post I spin no theories, but I agree that that explanation is bunk. A 30-06 is not going to be stopped by any bone.

They need to go back to the drawing board and come up with something plausible.

Collectively, we know next to nothing about the rifle or ammo the assassin was using so the most we have is largely speculation. I have fired 1,000’s of rounds over a lifetime of shooting. You are right, classic ball or hunting bullets will pass through the victim in a shot like that. I think that would be true if the round was tumbling - a “could-be” possibility in a modified, vintage weapon. But there is another possibility…

The round could have been of a fragmenting design that is engineered to break up on impact.  Some are hollow points to facilitate the fracturing of the round.  This includes frangible ammo designed to disentegrate on impact at the range. They are commercially available and highly destructive on soft tissue.

Just a possibility.
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« Reply #1636 on: September 22, 2025, 01:02:55 pm »
Collectively, we know next to nothing about the rifle or ammo the assassin was using so the most we have is largely speculation. I have fired 1,000’s of rounds over a lifetime of shooting. You are right, classic ball or hunting bullets will pass through the victim in a shot like that. I think that would be true if the round was tumbling - a “could-be” possibility in a modified, vintage weapon. But there is another possibility…

The round could have been of a fragmenting design that is engineered to break up on impact.  Some are hollow points to facilitate the fracturing of the round.  This includes frangible ammo designed to disentegrate on impact at the range. They are commercially available and highly destructive on soft tissue.

Just a possibility.

You are absolutely correct @Lando. The presence or absence of an exit wound would depend entirely on the construction of the bullet.
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« Reply #1637 on: September 22, 2025, 01:06:53 pm »
You are absolutely correct @Lando. The presence or absence of an exit wound would depend entirely on the construction of the bullet.

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If the bullet itself (and not the casing) was chiseled wouldn't that explain the tumbling and loss of 'power'?
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« Reply #1638 on: September 22, 2025, 01:16:11 pm »
@Bigun   @Lando Lincoln

If the bullet itself (and not the casing) was chiseled wouldn't that explain the tumbling and loss of 'power'?

There are 30 caliber bullets of any number of designs commercially available. Many of those would not be likely to produce exit wounds. The FBI has the rounds that were found in the rifle and can easily determine the construction of those bullets. Whether or not they ever tell us is another matter entirely. @DCPatriot 
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1639 on: September 22, 2025, 01:18:44 pm »
Collectively, we know next to nothing about the rifle or ammo the assassin was using so the most we have is largely speculation. I have fired 1,000’s of rounds over a lifetime of shooting. You are right, classic ball or hunting bullets will pass through the victim in a shot like that. I think that would be true if the round was tumbling - a “could-be” possibility in a modified, vintage weapon. But there is another possibility…

The round could have been of a fragmenting design that is engineered to break up on impact.  Some are hollow points to facilitate the fracturing of the round.  This includes frangible ammo designed to disentegrate on impact at the range. They are commercially available and highly destructive on soft tissue.

Just a possibility.

No that is rational, that I can buy. A regular 30-06 at 200y can go thru something like half inch plate steel. The strongest bone will not stop that.

I hate it when they try to pass those kind of things off with smoke and whitewash. Give real and plausible info, not fairy tale sounding stuff.
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« Reply #1640 on: September 22, 2025, 01:22:39 pm »
@Bigun   @Lando Lincoln

If the bullet itself (and not the casing) was chiseled wouldn't that explain the tumbling and loss of 'power'?

I don’t believe the bullet itself was etched in any way. Am I wrong about that? 

Tumbling of the round is most often caused by a worn out or defective barrel. Crowning damage at the end of the barrel can cause the bullet
To tumble in flight.

Etching of the bullet would have to be severe or causing disfigurement to the round (in my way of thinking) to cause loss of bullet energy or tumbling. It is the seated part of the round that generally comes in contact with the barrel rifling.
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« Reply #1641 on: September 22, 2025, 01:26:16 pm »
I don’t believe the bullet itself was etched in any way. Am I wrong about that? 

Tumbling of the round is most often caused by a worn out or defective barrel. Crowning damage at the end of the barrel can cause the bullet
To tumble in flight.

Etching of the bullet would have to be severe or causing disfigurement to the round (in my way of thinking) to cause loss of bullet energy or tumbling. It is the seated part of the round that generally comes in contact with the barrel rifling.

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« Reply #1642 on: September 22, 2025, 01:36:41 pm »
No that is rational, that I can buy. A regular 30-06 at 200y can go thru something like half inch plate steel. The strongest bone will not stop that.

I hate it when they try to pass those kind of things off with smoke and whitewash. Give real and plausible info, not fairy tale sounding stuff.

Yep.

Fragmenting and frangible ammo have become more common because of range safety while shooting steel plates and silhouette targets. I could see that being the ammo that was used.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1643 on: September 22, 2025, 01:47:05 pm »
She is a vile and despicable person.

And she couldn't quote a single thing that Kirk has ever said.
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« Reply #1644 on: September 22, 2025, 02:37:04 pm »
Collectively, we know next to nothing about the rifle or ammo the assassin was using so the most we have is largely speculation. I have fired 1,000’s of rounds over a lifetime of shooting. You are right, classic ball or hunting bullets will pass through the victim in a shot like that. I think that would be true if the round was tumbling - a “could-be” possibility in a modified, vintage weapon. But there is another possibility…

The round could have been of a fragmenting design that is engineered to break up on impact.  Some are hollow points to facilitate the fracturing of the round.  This includes frangible ammo designed to disentegrate on impact at the range. They are commercially available and highly destructive on soft tissue.

Just a possibility.
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« Reply #1645 on: September 22, 2025, 05:34:16 pm »
Collectively, we know next to nothing about the rifle or ammo the assassin was using so the most we have is largely speculation. I have fired 1,000’s of rounds over a lifetime of shooting. You are right, classic ball or hunting bullets will pass through the victim in a shot like that. I think that would be true if the round was tumbling - a “could-be” possibility in a modified, vintage weapon. But there is another possibility…

The round could have been of a fragmenting design that is engineered to break up on impact.  Some are hollow points to facilitate the fracturing of the round.  This includes frangible ammo designed to disentegrate on impact at the range. They are commercially available and highly destructive on soft tissue.

Just a possibility.

That's right, but not right... too much energy. not enough meat in the neck. Maybe true at center-mass, but even frag rounds should have exited.

The only things that makes sense to me -

Either the shot was way longer or the powder load was sub-standard...

OR, and this is where my money is right now:

He WAS wearing armor, and the armor took most of the energy before the bullet deflected and lodged in the neck.  THAT makes sense. None of the other scenarios do.  :shrug:

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1646 on: September 22, 2025, 08:49:06 pm »
That's right, but not right... too much energy. not enough meat in the neck. Maybe true at center-mass, but even frag rounds should have exited.

The only things that makes sense to me -

Either the shot was way longer or the powder load was sub-standard...

OR, and this is where my money is right now:

He WAS wearing armor, and the armor took most of the energy before the bullet deflected and lodged in the neck.  THAT makes sense. None of the other scenarios do.  :shrug:
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« Reply #1647 on: September 22, 2025, 11:10:43 pm »
Perhaps you are on the wrong site.

Or did you not understand this is a Conservative site?

Plenty of other sites that will agree with your tendencies without argument.


Let's go down the list, shall we and play "what if a democratic president said/did..."

 Criticism of him was not protected speech
Told companies not to raise prices because of his policies
Had an AG who threatened to go after Hate Speech. Something conservatives used to oppose because of it's subjectiveness until Trump
Threatened museums for promoting "divisive ideology"(whatever that means) like how bad slavery was.  :silly:
Took a 10% stake in a private company and stated more may be on the way.
Put in place policies that led to jobs being lost and prices rising

I'm sure the excuses will flow. But I gar- an- tee  the above would never be tolerated here  if spoken by and done by a Democrat administration.

I'm still a conservative. I still believe in free speech even if I can't stand the persons politics. free markets,  and  in limited government.
I have not changed any of my views. The only reason it seems that way to some because too many here are bending over backwards for Trump. I haven't and wont

So thats the reason you see and argument. And I suspect that if a democrat was president with the above points I listed, you would be agreeing with me



Hope that clears things up for you





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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1648 on: September 22, 2025, 11:16:09 pm »
Bovine scat!

A vicious LIE by @LMAO on this very same thread.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=568426.msg3219005#msg3219005



Lol...

Nope. Not a lie wink777

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When Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr suggested Jimmy Kimmel should be suspended and said, “We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” ABC and its local affiliates were listening. Within a matter of hours, ABC suspended Kimmel’s show “indefinitely,” a stunning move that has raised serious First Amendment concerns.

“Trump officials are repeatedly abusing their power to stop ideas they don’t like, deciding who can speak, write, and even joke,” the ACLU said in a statement. “The Trump administration’s actions, paired with ABC’s capitulation, represent a grave threat to our First Amendment freedoms.”


Again, despite your incoming protests, if a Democrat appointed FCC chairperson said this about, oh, let's say Laura Ingraham, for example, you would be thrown into uncontrollable fits of rage. As would I
The difference between you and me is I would be consistent  88devil

And I'm sure the explanations of how this is "different" are coming

However, my point still stands

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« Reply #1649 on: September 22, 2025, 11:54:28 pm »
When Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr suggested Jimmy Kimmel should be suspended and said, “We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” ABC and its local affiliates were listening.

Do you have proof of that?  I ask because CNN certainly doesn't.  Not one iota.  None.  Zip.  Nada.  Nowhere, and I mean nowhere has anyone provided even a hint of evidence that Carr's statements on a friggin' podcast had a single thing to do with ABC's decision.  CNN lies (no surprise there).


Within a matter of hours, ABC suspended Kimmel’s show “indefinitely,”

It was within a matter of minutes, not a matter of hours.  A matter of minutes after Nexstar and Sinclair said they would be dropping the Kimmel show because of comments that Kimmel made.  They even said exactly that.  But hey, don't take my word for it.  Read it for yourself:  https://www.nexstar.tv/nexstar-abc-affiliates-to-preempt-jimmy-kimmel-live-indefinitely-beginning-tonight/

IRVING, TX (Sept. 17, 2025)—Nexstar Media Group, Inc. (NASDAQ: NXST), today announced that the company’s owned and partner television stations affiliated with the ABC Television Network will preempt “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” for the foreseeable future beginning with tonight’s show.  Nexstar strongly objects to recent comments made by Mr. Kimmel concerning the killing of Charlie Kirk and will replace the show with other programming in its ABC-affiliated markets.

“Mr. Kimmel’s comments about the death of Mr. Kirk are offensive and insensitive at a critical time in our national political discourse, and we do not believe they reflect the spectrum of opinions, views, or values of the local communities in which we are located,” said Andrew Alford, President of Nexstar’s broadcasting division.  “Continuing to give Mr. Kimmel a broadcast platform in the communities we serve is simply not in the public interest at the current time, and we have made the difficult decision to preempt his show in an effort to let cooler heads prevail as we move toward the resumption of respectful, constructive dialogue.”

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Now about those comments.  Kimmel made derogatory comments about Kirk's death on three different shows - Sept 11, 15, and 16.  This wasn't a one-time event as CNN would have you believe.  This was a pattern.  And after three strikes, Nextar had had enough.  So to ignore three separate statements over the course of four Kimmel appearances is dishonest at best.

The Democrat Party narrative here is your typical post hoc fallacy.  Two events happening at around the same time - one being blamed for causing the other - with zero evidence to back it up.  Liberals utilize this fallacy quite a bit.


.  .  . a stunning move that has raised serious First Amendment concerns.

Concern for the First Amendment?  Let's have a look at that, shall we?

Congress shall make no law .  .  .

So where does Congress come into play here?  What did Congress do that denied any of the five rights enumerated within that Amendment?  Let me clue you in.  NOTHING.  Congress had NOTHING to do with this.  So, let's drop all this "First Amendment" bullshit and get to the underlying right - free speech.  Where was Jimmy Kimmel's free speech denied?  How was he silenced?  How was he censored?  Because last time I checked, Jimmy Kimmel is still running his mouth telling everyone he isn't apologizing for any of this three episodes of Kirk-related slander.

Like I said, CNN lies.
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