Charlie Kirk shot

[LMAO]

My economy is booming. Not sure what you see wrong with your economy, but that would probably boil down to some inadequate personal financial decisions. Just my opinion.

I hope that you didn't type that with a straight face

We are losing jobs under Trump. Especially those manufacturing jobs we were told were going to come back
Prices are on the rise and working class  and middle class folks are being squeezed even more. You can Huffpost all you want. But when the American people suffer, they don't vote for the party in charge.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if a Mandami(sp) type leftist wins in 2028 if things continue on this path

Me? I'm doing fine. My field is in one of the only fields creating jobs. But I know quite a few who are not

[LMAO]

lol….nope


. This argument started in spring of this year were a few of us in one camp were warning that cost would go up and jobs would be lost.


You told us by the end of September we will be eating crow


Guess what?
We’re losing jobs and prices are rising. And it’s almost October. And we’re losing more manufacturing jobs despite  the claim that these tariffs would bring in all these manufacturing jobs. Even firing the BLS commissioner isn’t helping Trump.

You’re having trouble coming to terms with the fact that a simple registered nurse was right. Understandable. And I never used the term runaway inflation. That’s just a figment of your imagination. But I did say it would raise cost when Americans are already being pinched with inflation.

So now you’re bringing up the stock market in order to move the goalpost. Nobody ever mentioned the stock market. And the stock market also rose under Biden.



But, hey.. it’s only Sept 22nd. Things may change in 8 days in your favor

And this is another one of those “if a Democrat president…” moments

[LMAO]

And has just been served his portion if crow.,  Where is this financial collapse he kept spewing 6 months ago?  Do I need to go back and cut paste every one of his disastrous predictions? Rather not but sometimes those need to be kept to account for their comments.

Cut and paste where I said we are heading for an economic and financial collapse

I’ve always said that tariffs would raise cost of many items when Americans were already being burdened  and I’m being  proven  right and you’re having difficulty coming to terms with that

 
So now you’re implying that I said we’re all gonna be in sack clothes  and eating our pets which I never ever claimed. This is how desperate you’ve become.
 I did say that prices would go up and it would cost jobs. And we’ve been losing manufacturing jobs under Trump



Or are you still butt sore because I did cut and paste a quote from you when Biden was president were you said not to trust any economic data from that  administration and asked you why we should trust the data from this administration?


That’s how I know for a fact that the economy was performing like this under democrat administration, you would be attacking it

[LMAO]

And @LMAO is one of the most Conservative hereon.
Nothing he said was against Conservatism.

@roamer_1

Have you noticed the term “TDS” is used more frequently here as of late? What others call TDS, it just means that some of us are consistently conservative. It’s the belief that if they attack Trump over, let’s say, his statement that too much negative coverage of a president is not protected speech, that means they’re siding with the left. So they’ve sold their souls to protect Trump


I recall the battle here over Trump trying to put price controls on pharmaceuticals.

There were more than a few here arguing in favor of it. But, when Harris proposed her misguided price gouging scheme, which was just a fancy word for price controls, there was consensus on why that was a bad idea


I listed a few things to another poster if a Democrat president was doing, it would be intolerable, even impeachable offenses.

But under Trump, those are now called conservatism and too many turn a blind eye towards them

Buy when AOC is president with Jasmine Crockett as VP, they’ll be the first to be surprised

Folks like me will not.

[mountaineer]

This thread is about the Kirk murder.

[Lando Lincoln]

This thread is about the Kirk murder.

Thank you.

[MeganC]

This thread is about the Kirk murder.

Thank you.

Also @mystery-ak

[catfish1957]

lol….nope


. This argument started in spring of this year were a few of us in one camp were warning that cost would go up and jobs would be lost.


You told us by the end of September we will be eating crow


Guess what?
We’re losing jobs and prices are rising. And it’s almost October. And we’re losing more manufacturing jobs despite  the claim that these tariffs would bring in all these manufacturing jobs. Even firing the BLS commissioner isn’t helping Trump.

You’re having trouble coming to terms with the fact that a simple registered nurse was right. Understandable. And I never used the term runaway inflation. That’s just a figment of your imagination. But I did say it would raise cost when Americans are already being pinched with inflation.

So now you’re bringing up the stock market in order to move the goalpost. Nobody ever mentioned the stock market. And the stock market also rose under Biden.



But, hey.. it’s only Sept 22nd. Things may change in 8ai9 days in your favor

And this is another one of those “if a Democrat president…” moments

utter bullshit.  Don't you f'n know how to read a stock chart air a governmental report?  Inflation is at rocking steady for quarters at 2-3%. All stock indices are at all time highs.  Trump has gotten $T in investments in long and sustainable wrench worthy industries.    Your delusion has hit Democratic Party heights.,
 
You are at the point you are harboring on "silly". Pretty entertaining if you ask me.

Do you want ketchup with that crow?

[Lando Lincoln]

Let’s save the economy debate for appropriate threads. This is not one of them. Please

[mystery-ak]

Keep this thread on topic..it is about Kirk not the economy.

Start your own thread on the economy, we have a Category devoted to that topic.

[Cyber Liberty]

Let’s save the economy debate for appropriate threads. This is not one of them. Please

A bit louder for others...this Thread is heavy enough already!

@LMAO @catfish1957

[LMAO]

A bit louder for others...this Thread is heavy enough already!

@LMAO @catfish1957

Fair enough

I made my point

And you’re right. This was not an appropriate thread to bring up different subjects and I apologize.

I’ll move on

@Cyber Liberty

[Cyber Liberty]

Fair enough

I made my point

And you’re right. This was not an appropriate thread to bring up different subjects and I apologize.

I’ll move on

@Cyber Liberty

Thank you very much for that, @LMAO!  I mean that sincerely.

[Bigun]

Let’s save the economy debate for appropriate threads. This is not one of them. Please

Good luck with getting ANYONE to debate ANYTHING seriously on this forum.

[DCPatriot]

I'll go out on a limb here and predict a downhill slide for Turning Point USA...without Charlie's genuine personality, his debating style, his quickness in expressing coherent arguments.

All the Ben Shapiro's in the world aren't going to replace him.

[DB]

I'll go out on a limb here and predict a downhill slide for Turning Point USA...without Charlie's genuine personality, his debating style, his quickness in expressing coherent arguments.

All the Ben Shapiro's in the world aren't going to replace him.

Charlie was one of a kind and truly exceptional. Extremely gifted at communications/debate/recalling facts while not returning hostility to the extremely hostile.

[Cyber Liberty]

I'm interested in how Erika leads....

[libertybele]

I'll go out on a limb here and predict a downhill slide for Turning Point USA...without Charlie's genuine personality, his debating style, his quickness in expressing coherent arguments.

All the Ben Shapiro's in the world aren't going to replace him.

Unfortunately, I believe you are correct.  He had the courage and was successful in spreading conservatism on college campuses.  Without that, the conservative movement (MAGA) will dwindle significantly.

Much of the progress made on turning back the clock on the indoctrination of our youth will be lost without him.

I sat and watched an interview of two college kids who wanted to continue in Kirk's path; they've been threatened and I would dare say many others have been as well.

[mystery-ak]

I'll go out on a limb here and predict a downhill slide for Turning Point USA...without Charlie's genuine personality, his debating style, his quickness in expressing coherent arguments.

All the Ben Shapiro's in the world aren't going to replace him.

I agree....

Turning Point USA Continues Charlie Kirk’s Tour, Announcing Big Names for College Speaking Events
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=569308.msg3220957#msg3220957

[Lando Lincoln]

I'll go out on a limb here and predict a downhill slide for Turning Point USA...without Charlie's genuine personality, his debating style, his quickness in expressing coherent arguments.

All the Ben Shapiro's in the world aren't going to replace him.

I agree. Charlie was the “charismatic” leader of a movement. Irreplaceable, I think.

[Bigun]

I agree. Charlie was the “charismatic” leader of a movement. Irreplaceable, I think.

Very much akin to trying to replace Rush and we see how that has gone.

[Cyber Liberty]

Very much akin to trying to replace Rush and we see how that has gone.

I'm willing to give Erika a chance.  She is the woman behind the great man.  She has a solid COO behind her that will make or break Turning Point.

[Bigun]

I'm willing to give Erika a chance.  She is the woman behind the great man.  She has a solid COO behind her that will make or break Turning Point.

I'm 100% in agreement with that. Just saying that finding someone to carry the torch isn't going to be easy.

[Cyber Liberty]

I'm 100% in agreement with that. Just saying that finding someone to carry the torch isn't going to be easy.

There are scheduled events with various speakers, maybe one or two will pass the "audition?"  You're correct, those are pretty big shoes to fill!

[mountaineer]

Just when you think you've heard it all. An airline passenger wearing a "freedom" shirt like the one Charlie had on at Utah Valley has posted:

[MeganC]

I'm willing to give Erika a chance.  She is the woman behind the great man.  She has a solid COO behind her that will make or break Turning Point.

Agreed. Erika is also a woman on a mission now.

[DB]

Agreed. Erika is also a woman on a mission now.

Yes, but she is also a single mother of young children. She's a target of the left as well and she owes her children a future with her as well.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yes, but she is also a single mother of young children. She's a target of the left as well and she owes her children a future with her as well.

I don't think we'll see her doing Q/A sessions like Charlie did.  But you're correct in that she'll be a target whether she does events or not.   

[Sighlass]

https://rumble.com/v6ze5u6-the-only-part-of-jimmy-kimmels-lie-filled-return-monologue-that-was-worth-h.html

Odd that is probable the part that I don't like the most... You forgive those that "sincerely ask" for forgiveness. It is part of the process of getting them back into the fold as a friend with a relationship with Christ as centerpiece.

Are you saying "hey, just go free and don't shoot anyone else" ? Are you saying I don't want justice? Often folks will say, I don't want the death penalty, but just keep them in jail forever.... If you forgive someone and still want "forever in jail" are you actually forgiving them, or just wanting to deal your type of justice under the guise of "forgiving"? Are you just trying to look like the bigger man?

Even if this shooter sincerely asks forgiveness, society demands it. You can personally forgive him (after a heartfelt apology), but a just society would want just justice.

Sorry Mrs. Kirk, I wasn't a fan of this.... People can flame me below. I want justice... and in this case, it requires the death penalty. 

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Hopefully I got this in the correct thread this time...

[mountaineer]

Let's not confuse our forgiving someone who has hurt or offended us, and God's forgiveness. There are similarities, but one big difference: only God's forgiveness means those who repent and ask His forgiveness will not face the justice we all deserve.

See also Frank Turek's talk about what went on Sunday. At about 30 minutes, he talks about grace and forgiveness.

https://twitter.com/DrFrankTurek/status/1970903578333339692

[roamer_1]

I can forgive the guy, even without his repentance...

But he still has a bill to pay.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I'll go out on a limb here and predict a downhill slide for Turning Point USA...without Charlie's genuine personality, his debating style, his quickness in expressing coherent arguments.

All the Ben Shapiro's in the world aren't going to replace him.

Keep the faith @DCPatriot  ---- at least for a couple of months -----   

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1970972719832613327

[Right_in_Virginia]

Agreed. Erika is also a woman on a mission now.

@MeganC

I think Erika can and should be a force in the organization --- but, not its face.  IMO, she'll be most effective as the opening and/or closing speaker at events --- but not the main event itself.

As for replacing Charlie, I envision a band of brothers (not sisters) --- maybe three or four to fan out and also come together for larger events.

I say "not sisters" because this would likely be used to label the entire movement an anti-abortion movement and that would be the death kneel for the organization

[mountaineer]

Mikie McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, may take the role of talking and debating with young people.

[MeganC]

@MeganC

I think Erika can and should be a force in the organization --- but, not its face.  IMO, she'll be most effective as the opening and/or closing speaker at events --- but not the main event itself.

As for replacing Charlie, I envision a band of brothers (not sisters) --- maybe three or four to fan out and also come together for larger events.

I say "not sisters" because this would likely be used to label the entire movement an anti-abortion movement and that would be the death kneel for the organization

That is some very sound reasoning. 

[Free Vulcan]

Just find a smart, adaptable, personable individual who's willing to work at it and over time he will get better and fill the shoes. I guarantee Charlie wasn't as good at it at the beginning he was as at the end.

[MeganC]

Just find a smart, adaptable, personable individual who's willing to work at it and over time he will get better and fill the shoes. I guarantee Charlie wasn't as good at it at the beginning he was as at the end.

Charlie was truly gifted. Watch his early videos and you'll see it too.

[jmyrlefuller]

Just find a smart, adaptable, personable individual who's willing to work at it and over time he will get better and fill the shoes. I guarantee Charlie wasn't as good at it at the beginning he was as at the end.

There are three hundred million people in this country; surely there must be at least one who is up to the task.

[American Girl]

Excerpt:
The mainstream media's blackout on Charlie Kirk's assassination just got a whole lot shadier, with Fox News dropping a bombshell that reeks of cover-up: the far-left assassin Tyler Robinson "made contact" with a police officer mere hours after gunning down the conservative icon, right near the wooded stash where his murder weapon was hidden. No wonder the left's press puppets are crickets— this juicy detail paints Robinson as a bumbling radical desperate to retrieve his Mauser .30-06 rifle, wrapped in a towel like a bad spy movie prop. Coincidence? Or are they burying it to protect the narrative that Kirk's death was anything but leftist terrorism? The timeline's too tight, the texts too damning—let's unpack the details that have the truth-seekers raging.




Be it a deranged trANsTIFA leftist or a DS op, it did not have the desired effect.
Thanks to this incident, Charlie Kirk will live forever, Turning Point grew exponentially overnight, our politicians no longer have to hide their Christian beliefs and God is back in the public Square.

https://conservativeus.com/no-msm-coverage-charlie-kirk-assassin-tyler-robinson-made-contact-with-police-officer-near-wooded-rifle-stash-cover-up-or-coincidence-here-are-the-details/