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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #200 on: February 22, 2025, 06:39:11 pm »
So does this mean that Musk can now become President?
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« Reply #201 on: February 22, 2025, 06:39:54 pm »
And zero back pay.  If you aren't working because the government shuts down, you don't get paid.  Period.  That goes from the President on down.

I don’t think the civil service union rules work that way.

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« Reply #202 on: February 22, 2025, 06:42:39 pm »
I don’t think the civil service union rules work that way.

I don't give a shit about the civil service union rules.  No work, no pay.  Everything in life is a tradeoff.  Government workers get paid 30% more for doing less than half the work.  That's the upside.  The downside is that from time to time, you are temporarily laid off when Congress refuses to borrow more money for what they promised to spend.
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« Reply #203 on: February 22, 2025, 06:53:12 pm »
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Government got BIGGER under Tumpy - Not smaller.

Government got bigger under every POTUS, even Reagan, despite his declaration that he would reduce the size of government.

And based on past comments, Trump is not looking to balance the budget or pay off the national debt.  He plans to greatly increase defense spending based on prior comments.  The bottomline will spell even greater national debt.

No mention, not even a peep about cutting the CIA, NSA, FBI and the other dozen agencies tied to intelligence.  They all have huge budgets.  HUGE!!!!  I say cut them by 40% across the board.  When one considers all the negative events that have hppened over the past 25 years, I am not impressed by their results.


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« Reply #204 on: February 22, 2025, 06:54:19 pm »
?? This birth certificate shows that his mother was an American citizen ??? I'm not seeing the proof of being fraudulent.

Show me another birth certificate from Hawaii in that time frame with the words "African American" on it. Just one example will do.
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« Reply #205 on: February 22, 2025, 06:57:40 pm »
Government got bigger under every POTUS, even Reagan, despite his declaration that he would reduce the size of government.

And based on past comments, Trump is not looking to balance the budget or pay off the national debt.  He plans to greatly increase defense spending based on prior comments.  The bottomline will spell even greater national debt.

No mention, not even a peep about cutting the CIA, NSA, FBI and the other dozen agencies tied to intelligence.  They all have huge budgets.  HUGE!!!!  I say cut them by 40% across the board.  When one considers all the negative events that have hppened over the past 25 years, I am not impressed by their results.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,554123.msg3142494.html#msg3142494

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« Reply #206 on: February 22, 2025, 06:58:08 pm »
Show me another birth certificate from Hawaii in that time frame with the words "African American" on it. Just one example will do.

Ok, thank you; that I was not aware of.

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« Reply #207 on: February 22, 2025, 06:59:49 pm »
Not sure why Obama's birth certificate is on this thread, but shortly after he became POTUS, I watched a very credible video explaining all the changes to the Obama birth certificate.  My bottomline, his certificate was a complete fabrication from top to bottom. 

Obama is a $3 bill, in every context.

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« Reply #208 on: February 22, 2025, 06:59:54 pm »
Ok, thank you; that I was not aware of.

All that have been examined say "Black" or "Negro".
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« Reply #209 on: February 22, 2025, 07:04:50 pm »
I would vote for DeSantis all day long. He has the receipts in Florida. He's already done it for realz. in LAW.

I can't wait until DeSantis starts smearing Byron Daniels.
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« Reply #210 on: February 22, 2025, 07:12:23 pm »
I can't wait until DeSantis starts smearing Byron Daniels.

?? Sarcasm maybe??  It has been rumored that Casey will run, but there's no way she can compete with Byron's experience and he's one powerful conservative speaker.  Added to that he'll likely be backed by Trump.

Yes, RDS brought up Obama's birth certificate, but if he goes after Byron, he's going to be sliding down a slippery slope, because race will then come into play as he is pretty darn popular.  His wife will be toast. Just my opinion.
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« Reply #211 on: February 22, 2025, 07:12:47 pm »
All that have been examined say "Black" or "Negro".

Gottcha.

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« Reply #212 on: February 22, 2025, 07:13:53 pm »
Show me another birth certificate from Hawaii in that time frame with the words "African American" on it. Just one example will do.

@Bigun  I'm not seeing it on the one posted in the DeSantis tweet.  Is there another one I should be looking at?  Thanks.
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« Reply #213 on: February 22, 2025, 07:18:58 pm »
?? Sarcasm maybe??  It has been rumored that Casey will run, but there's no way she can compete with Byron's experience and he's one powerful conservative speaker.  Added to that he'll likely be backed by Trump.

Smearing the opposition is the DeSantis way (especially when Trump is involved), and the lid will come off when he decides he has to when it's his wife running.  Just watch.
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« Reply #214 on: February 22, 2025, 07:19:41 pm »

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« Reply #215 on: February 22, 2025, 07:21:28 pm »
Smearing the opposition is the DeSantis way (especially when Trump is involved), and the lid will come off when he decides he has to when it's his wife running.  Just watch.

Ok ... I'm missing something here?  Trump drew first blood and smeared DeSantis, not the other way around.

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« Reply #216 on: February 22, 2025, 07:22:10 pm »
I did find this down thread, but I don't see anything wrong with the Hawaii one (other than it doesn't match the 'official' one released by the State of Hawaii while Obama was in office.

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« Reply #217 on: February 22, 2025, 07:23:10 pm »
@Bigun  I'm not seeing it on the one posted in the DeSantis tweet.  Is there another one I should be looking at?  Thanks.


That tweet conveniently conceals the name of a nonexistent Hospital as well.
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« Reply #218 on: February 22, 2025, 07:24:18 pm »
Ok ... I'm missing something here?  Trump drew first blood and smeared DeSantis, not the other way around.

Just watch.
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« Reply #219 on: February 22, 2025, 07:27:50 pm »

That tweet conveniently conceals the name of a nonexistent Hospital as well.

The hospital name is another outstanding issue.  Back in 2008, Snopes in one of their fact checks had posted the name of the hospital where Obama was born.  A few months later in another fact check, they listed a different hospital.  At no point did they ever acknowledge the discrepancy in their own fact checks.  Either one was wrong or the other (or both).  But as the self-anointed authority on fact checking, they never came clean or even admitted their error.
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« Reply #220 on: February 22, 2025, 07:30:31 pm »
The hospital name is another outstanding issue.  Back in 2008, Snopes in one of their fact checks had posted the name of the hospital where Obama was born.  A few months later in another fact check, they listed a different hospital.  At no point did they ever acknowledge the discrepancy in their own fact checks.  Either one was wrong or the other (or both).  But as the self-anointed authority on fact checking, they never came clean or even admitted their error.

Snopes has been proven to be an unreliable source of 'fact checking'.

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« Reply #221 on: February 22, 2025, 07:33:56 pm »
Just watch.

As a huge fan of DeSantis, with me he would lose all respect and credibility.  Not because I'm a fan of Donalds, but because DeSantis would indeed by a phony after all this time I thought he had integrity.

We'll see.   Unfortunately, if he does do so, it would really upset the conservative apple cart that we have in the Fl legislative body.

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« Reply #222 on: February 22, 2025, 07:42:26 pm »
@Bigun  I'm not seeing it on the one posted in the DeSantis tweet.  Is there another one I should be looking at?  Thanks.

Please refer to the thread at the link I posted above.
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« Reply #223 on: February 22, 2025, 07:56:15 pm »
Smearing the opposition is the DeSantis way (especially when Trump is involved), and the lid will come off when he decides he has to when it's his wife running.  Just watch.

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« Reply #224 on: February 22, 2025, 08:05:30 pm »
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
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