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« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2025, 05:30:50 pm »
I am more optimistic. I think we'll begin to see some legislation landing on his desk for him to sign.

The best thing we all can do is start calling your senators and your congressmen and start demanding that the start drafting bills to set Trump's agenda in stone. Otherwise, like we are all aware, all of this is for nothing.

Problem is we have a razor thin majority.  The three amigos in the Senate are toxic.  Speaker Johnson hasn't exactly been able to chorale his members in the House and Thune ... well, I wouldn't exactly call him a conservative.

I gotta side with @roamer_1 here.  I have seen nothing from Congress that will codify the gains made by Musk.  The thing I see now is having hundreds of billions sitting in the Treasury at the end of the fiscal year with 535 members of Congress scheming to get their hands on it.

There is one and only one thing that should be done with that money - retire debt.  But from what I've seen so far, I have little faith that this current Congress will play along.  Nonetheless, four years of balanced budget by pure Executive fiat will be a phenomenal blessing in the grander scheme of things compared to another $8 trillion in debt.  It will also mean larger gains for Republicans as Democrats find themselves woefully deficient in campaign funding.  And with an increase in Republicans, hopefully a few of them will be Conservatives.


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« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2025, 05:58:17 pm »
It's not what I know.  It's what I've watched you do for the last nine years.

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« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2025, 06:05:46 pm »
I gotta side with @roamer_1 here.  I have seen nothing from Congress that will codify the gains made by Musk.  The thing I see now is having hundreds of billions sitting in the Treasury at the end of the fiscal year with 535 members of Congress scheming to get their hands on it.

There is one and only one thing that should be done with that money - retire debt.  But from what I've seen so far, I have little faith that this current Congress will play along.  Nonetheless, four years of balanced budget by pure Executive fiat will be a phenomenal blessing in the grander scheme of things compared to another $8 trillion in debt.  It will also mean larger gains for Republicans as Democrats find themselves woefully deficient in campaign funding.  And with an increase in Republicans, hopefully a few of them will be Conservatives.

Pulling the lid off the sewer exposing massive corruption will be very difficult to walk back. I don't think congress can go back to business as usual after that. If the majority of the public applauds what Trump is doing, which seems to be the case so far, then that may well give courage to the spineless Republicans to actually pass laws locking things in for awhile.

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« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2025, 06:55:13 pm »
Wouldn't you like to finally know whether our current vaccines or sequence of mandatory distribution do or do not contribute to the development of childhood autism?

Should parents have a say in when and what vaccine their child receives?

Bull.

I am a parent.  My son had plenty of vaxes.  I have zero problem with that.

The autism thing is largely a fad, too.  My mom was a Master’s special-Ed teacher (leader of emotionally-disturbed hospital teenage unit in ‘70s/‘80s) for 30 years of her career, and she was floored by the sudden boom in “autism” in the ‘90s, along with “ADD”.  As she stated over and over, they DO get more money for labeling more children.

Suddenly, we’re all “on the spectrum”.  If you dumb down the definition, you get more “victims”….and you can tie it in to more vaccines.  How convenient.

RFK is a Dem, period, and a conspiracy theorist.  Just like “conservatives” said 10 short years ago.  But because King Trump gives his annointment, you all bend over for it.
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« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2025, 07:02:29 pm »
Bull.

I am a parent.  My son had plenty of vaxes.  I have zero problem with that.

The autism thing is largely a fad, too.  My mom was a Master’s special-Ed teacher (leader of emotionally-disturbed hospital teenage unit in ‘70s/‘80s) for 30 years of her career, and she was floored by the sudden boom in “autism” in the ‘90s, along with “ADD”.  As she stated over and over, they DO get more money for labeling more children.

Suddenly, we’re all “on the spectrum”.  If you dumb down the definition, you get more “victims”….and you can tie it in to more vaccines.  How convenient.

RFK is a Dem, period, and a conspiracy theorist.  Just like “conservatives” said 10 short years ago.  But because King Trump gives his annointment, you all bend over for it.

Exactly -- they 'label'' your child and you get $$ + special teachers for your child.  Consequently schools and parents knowing that they can get $$ or benefits for their child are quick to label as many kids as they can. It's a racket.

Not to say that there aren't children who have autism; some cases more severe than others, but I've also known parents/schools who have labeled some kids unnecessarily, just because they learn at a slightly slower pace and usually they learn in a different way.  Turns out eventually little Johnny or Sally exceed expectations.

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« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2025, 08:38:36 pm »
Exactly -- they 'label'' your child and you get $$ + special teachers for your child.  Consequently schools and parents knowing that they can get $$ or benefits for their child are quick to label as many kids as they can. It's a racket.

Not to say that there aren't children who have autism; some cases more severe than others, but I've also known parents/schools who have labeled some kids unnecessarily, just because they learn at a slightly slower pace and usually they learn in a different way.  Turns out eventually little Johnny or Sally exceed expectations.
My wife has her Masters on Special Ed and saw the same thing during her tenure.

She said she saw way too many labeled ADD when they were just kids with a higher than normal activity level.

And everyone should be concerned on the push for vaccines promulgated by govt.

Too many incentives exist for RX companies to push for profit and their backroom deals with corrupt bureaucrats.

We will find out a lot more on the latter as time goes on.
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« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2025, 08:44:06 pm »
Bull.

I am a parent.  My son had plenty of vaxes.  I have zero problem with that.

The autism thing is largely a fad, too.  My mom was a Master’s special-Ed teacher (leader of emotionally-disturbed hospital teenage unit in ‘70s/‘80s) for 30 years of her career, and she was floored by the sudden boom in “autism” in the ‘90s, along with “ADD”.  As she stated over and over, they DO get more money for labeling more children.

Suddenly, we’re all “on the spectrum”.  If you dumb down the definition, you get more “victims”….and you can tie it in to more vaccines.  How convenient.

RFK is a Dem, period, and a conspiracy theorist.  Just like “conservatives” said 10 short years ago.  But because King Trump gives his annointment, you all bend over for it.
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Conspiracy theorist?? Nope.  I disagree.  The number of vaccines mandated these days for kids to enter school is ridiculous.  Say what you want, think what you want, but COVID was orchestrated and if you want to label that as a conspiracy theory, go right ahead.

IMHO Trump this time around is picking some really good people and I think RFK Jr. was a great pick to handle this issue.

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« Reply #57 on: February 15, 2025, 08:50:41 pm »
Labels can also work the opposite way.  As the father of a (formerly) autistic son, at a time we were receiving speech and occupational therapy, we were told that we needed his condition diagnosed as a digestive disorder (which made sense because his diet was extremely limited).  We were getting some help from our insurance company, but they insisted on a diagnosis.  So we took him to a pediatric behavioral psychologist for a diagnosis.  We explained to her that if our son was diagnosed with autism, that we would lose what insurance coverage we had.  So that if she had any inkling of issuing an autism diagnosis, that we preferred she offer no diagnosis at all, and that we would gladly pay her for the 'non-visit' and go elsewhere.

So guess what she did?  She diagnosed him with autism, and we lost our insurance coverage.  From that point forward, we paid out-of-pocket for everything while still having to pay for insurance.
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« Reply #58 on: February 15, 2025, 08:53:17 pm »
Labels can also work the opposite way.  As the father of a (formerly) autistic son, at a time we were receiving speech and occupational therapy, we were told that we needed his condition diagnosed as a digestive disorder (which made sense because his diet was extremely limited).  We were getting some help from our insurance company, but they insisted on a diagnosis.  So we took him to a pediatric behavioral psychologist for a diagnosis.  We explained to her that if our son was diagnosed with autism, that we would lose what insurance coverage we had.  So that if she had any inkling of issuing an autism diagnosis, that we preferred she offer no diagnosis at all, and that we would gladly pay her for the 'non-visit' and go elsewhere.

So guess what she did?  She diagnosed him with autism, and we lost our insurance coverage.  From that point forward, we paid out-of-pocket for everything while still having to pay for insurance.

That is terrible and you obviously got the short end of the stick.

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« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2025, 09:12:49 pm »
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
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« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2025, 09:46:54 pm »
Bull.

I am a parent.  My son had plenty of vaxes.  I have zero problem with that.

The autism thing is largely a fad, too.  My mom was a Master’s special-Ed teacher (leader of emotionally-disturbed hospital teenage unit in ‘70s/‘80s) for 30 years of her career, and she was floored by the sudden boom in “autism” in the ‘90s, along with “ADD”.  As she stated over and over, they DO get more money for labeling more children.

Suddenly, we’re all “on the spectrum”.  If you dumb down the definition, you get more “victims”….and you can tie it in to more vaccines.  How convenient.

RFK is a Dem, period, and a conspiracy theorist.  Just like “conservatives” said 10 short years ago.  But because King Trump gives his annointment, you all bend over for it.

Putting the credentials and anecdotal findings of your mom aside for the moment, the majority of parents want to know the whys for the increase in autism, previously unheard of chronic diseases in children, the increasing food allégies and obesity epidemic in our youngsters.

Sure,  poor parenting is in the mix --- but I think it's time we pin down the organic triggers. --- even if conservatives don't like the coach.




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« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2025, 10:46:28 pm »
Labels can also work the opposite way.  As the father of a (formerly) autistic son, at a time we were receiving speech and occupational therapy, we were told that we needed his condition diagnosed as a digestive disorder (which made sense because his diet was extremely limited).  We were getting some help from our insurance company, but they insisted on a diagnosis.  So we took him to a pediatric behavioral psychologist for a diagnosis.  We explained to her that if our son was diagnosed with autism, that we would lose what insurance coverage we had.  So that if she had any inkling of issuing an autism diagnosis, that we preferred she offer no diagnosis at all, and that we would gladly pay her for the 'non-visit' and go elsewhere.

So guess what she did?  She diagnosed him with autism, and we lost our insurance coverage.  From that point forward, we paid out-of-pocket for everything while still having to pay for insurance.

Have you seen this:

https://news.asu.edu/20190409-discoveries-autism-symptoms-reduced-nearly-50-percent-two-years-after-fecal-transplant

Extremely interesting.

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« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2025, 11:12:22 pm »
Have you seen this:

https://news.asu.edu/20190409-discoveries-autism-symptoms-reduced-nearly-50-percent-two-years-after-fecal-transplant

Extremely interesting.

Yes, I believe that had a lot to do with it.  Which is why his speech and occupational therapists wanted it treated that way.  We did work on his diet for a long time.  Didn't do the gluten-free route.  But we did do raw milk and digestive enzymes.  Milk was weird.  Before autism, he could drink homogenized milk (and eat just about anything including any vegetable) with no problem.  After autism, he would develop severe rashes around his mouth from homogenized milk.  But when we switched him to raw milk, no rashes.  So we did that until Obama made purchasing raw milk illegal.  While autistic, he would only eat beans and rice from Chipotles, scrambled eggs and yellow grits, and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.  Now, he's back to eating anything again.

He slowly grew out of it to the point that he asked if he could go to a regular school.  The secret was lots and lots of prayer, declaration, and faith that G-d would complete what He started.  The fact that he was born at all was in itself a miracle.  So we figured G-d wouldn't have done that if He didn't have a mighty destiny to go along with him.  He still has communication issues (like his dad).  But G-d shows us a new miracle each and every day.  And I wouldn't trade that for anything.

As for Kennedy, vaccines, and all, I am not as militant against vaccines as my wife is.  But the bottom line is that they should be an individual choice.  The day my son was born, they tried to give him a Hep-B vaccine.  There is absolutely positively NO reason for that.  A newborn has no immune system.  So vaccines do zero good in that a newborn's body is incapable of creating antibodies.  For the first six months, a newborn relies upon antibodies passed on from the mother.  We politely declined, but we had to put up a fight.  The medical community is so gung-ho with vaccines that they literally force them on the patient.  It was within weeks of his 30-month vaccines that our son's autism set in.  But even after that, we had two different pediatricians drop us because we refused any further vaccines.

Bottom line, G-d is a God of Restoration.  No room for bitterness.  My son is fearfully and wonderfully made.  Thanks for posting that, @DB
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« Reply #63 on: February 16, 2025, 12:27:16 am »
Gratefully, you have no power. :cross:

That you think it's about power is what makes y'all so ignorant and dangerous.

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« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2025, 12:31:07 am »
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« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2025, 02:59:39 am »
If any lasting reform emerges from the chaos, we can say Trump’s second term was a pleasant surprise.  It’s mostly bluster thus far.  We thought he was making progress on America-first foreign policy, and then he dropped the Gaza bomb. 

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« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2025, 04:16:21 pm »
Bull.

I am a parent.  My son had plenty of vaxes.  I have zero problem with that.

Munchausen-by-proxy. Look it up.
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« Reply #67 on: February 16, 2025, 04:48:47 pm »
Munchausen-by-proxy. Look it up.

I’m aware of what that is.  Nothing of the sort.

I’d have no problem having those vaxes if they were part of mine.  I had all that I could and have also had tetanus and shingles recently in my life.  No fear of them.
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« Reply #68 on: February 16, 2025, 05:02:27 pm »
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Conspiracy theorist?? Nope.  I disagree.  The number of vaccines mandated these days for kids to enter school is ridiculous.  Say what you want, think what you want, but COVID was orchestrated and if you want to label that as a conspiracy theory, go right ahead.

IMHO Trump this time around is picking some really good people and I think RFK Jr. was a great pick to handle this issue.

If you’d read prior, I am not a fan of COVID vaxes.

I don’t have to hate all vaxes or none.  RFK hates all.  I hate one.  Rushed biology, makes no sense…and facilitated by Trump.

Again, I despise hypocrisy.  I saw it on FR in spades.  10 years ago people didn’t like RFK, now they love him since their Dear Leader rewarded him for his loyalty.  Which Trump has mentioned in the past (hating on Ron for “disloyalty”).

Of course, it’s not just RFK.  It’s other people, and the behaviors of Trump.  Reviled in the Clinton years, suddenly a blind eye to similar patterns.  Hating on Graham and then ignoring how this pal of Trump shows up at every function, in the same exact time period.  Ignoring that Trump put his faith behind the very vax we revile.  It’s all happening more here, in the last year.

I’m glad Trump won, and very glad R won Congress, albeit hardly.  But he’s still imperfect, far from it, and I’m not going to pretend otherwise.  I’m still having to bicker, whatever forum I’m on, lib or conservative.  He is no RR and I’m never going to see it that way.
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« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2025, 05:07:56 pm »
If you’d read prior, I am not a fan of COVID vaxes.

I don’t have to hate all vaxes or none.  RFK hates all.  I hate one.  Rushed biology, makes no sense…and facilitated by Trump.

Again, I despise hypocrisy.  I saw it on FR in spades.  10 years ago people didn’t like RFK, now they love him since their Dear Leader rewarded him for his loyalty.  Which Trump has mentioned in the past (hating on Ron for “disloyalty”).

Of course, it’s not just RFK.  It’s other people, and the behaviors of Trump.  Reviled in the Clinton years, suddenly a blind eye to similar patterns.  Hating on Graham and then ignoring how this pal of Trump shows up at every function, in the same exact time period.  Ignoring that Trump put his faith behind the very vax we revile.  It’s all happening more here, in the last year.

I’m glad Trump won, and very glad R won Congress, albeit hardly.  But he’s still imperfect, far from it, and I’m not going to pretend otherwise.  I’m still having to bicker, whatever forum I’m on, lib or conservative.  He is no RR and I’m never going to see it that way.

So, where's the quote of RFK "hating all vaccines".

I won't wait...

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« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2025, 05:19:45 pm »
If you’d read prior, I am not a fan of COVID vaxes.

I don’t have to hate all vaxes or none.  RFK hates all.  I hate one.  Rushed biology, makes no sense…and facilitated by Trump.

Again, I despise hypocrisy.  I saw it on FR in spades.  10 years ago people didn’t like RFK, now they love him since their Dear Leader rewarded him for his loyalty.  Which Trump has mentioned in the past (hating on Ron for “disloyalty”).

Of course, it’s not just RFK.  It’s other people, and the behaviors of Trump.  Reviled in the Clinton years, suddenly a blind eye to similar patterns.  Hating on Graham and then ignoring how this pal of Trump shows up at every function, in the same exact time period.  Ignoring that Trump put his faith behind the very vax we revile.  It’s all happening more here, in the last year.

I’m glad Trump won, and very glad R won Congress, albeit hardly.  But he’s still imperfect, far from it, and I’m not going to pretend otherwise.  I’m still having to bicker, whatever forum I’m on, lib or conservative.  He is no RR and I’m never going to see it that way.

Where did Trump put his faith in the COVID vax?  IIRC he pushed for hydrochloronique (sp?) which at the time was working and Fauci shut him down.  Fauci pushed and hurried vaccines through with little or no approval by the FDA (not that that means anything anymore).  Trump facilitated resources available and cut through red tape in order to save lives and don't recall him mandating that people get vaccines.  He left that issue up to the different states. 

Early on Trump shut down travel from China into the U.S., he ramped up production of PPE's, ventilators, make-shift hospitals ... Trump saved lives.  Yes he ran up the deficit by doing so and also giving $$ to those who lost their jobs or were laid off --- people had to eat.  Again -- Trump saved lives.  He was just as much at Fauci's mercy as we were, except I believe he figured out Fauci was a fraud as well as Birx as he stopped doing pressers with them. 

Just because JFK Jr., is a DEM does not make him the devil that you believe him to be.

RFK Jr. is a great pick for this job.

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« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2025, 05:43:33 pm »
So, where's the quote of RFK "hating all vaccines".

I won't wait...

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« Reply #72 on: February 16, 2025, 07:23:19 pm »
I’m aware of what that is.  Nothing of the sort.

I’d have no problem having those vaxes if they were part of mine.  I had all that I could and have also had tetanus and shingles recently in my life.  No fear of them.

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« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2025, 10:33:18 pm »
His ass kissing of putin is really rubbing me the wrong way

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« Reply #74 on: February 18, 2025, 10:45:30 pm »
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