I Was Wrong About Trump

[Timber Rattler]

The above quote is you on this very thread...reply #5

LOL!  What a schizo-maroon!

Yeah, I changed my mind real fast when Trump suddenly tried to rob Ukraine this week and is forcing an unconditional surrender to an evil and aggressive Russian regime, falling back on appeasement as his foreign policy in Europe.  Betrayal is an ugly, ugly thing.

So I guess you support THIS, old man?







Russian massacres of innocent Ukrainian civilians OK with you?  Or just not your problem?  Look reall good and hard because that's exactly what Putin has planned for us.

And oh BTW, Trump declared himself 'King' this week.  He's completely power drunk now.

So just bugger off you old fool.   

[DCPatriot]

I give a Trump an A+ a month in.  I have been a political junkie since Nixon, so that is a data set of almost 60 years.  No one has improved things this much and fast ever.  I think the King Thing, is about the only item that I haven't care for thus far.  I know it was trolling, but that one crossed the line a tad. Well make that 2.....   This DOGE benefit needs to go 100% towards deficit reduction.  But I am a deficit hawk anyway, so that's no surprise.

    

Understand it WAS trolling because the NY Governor said it was none of his business to inject himself into the "traffic congestion" [scheme] saying in an announcement that "...he's not a King".

[Bigun]

I give a Trump an A+ a month in.  I have been a political junkie since Nixon, so that is a data set of almost 60 years.  No one has improved things this much and fast ever.  I think the King Thing, is about the only item that I haven't care for thus far.  I know it was trolling, but that one crossed the line a tad. Well make that 2.....   This DOGE benefit needs to go 100% towards deficit reduction.  But I am a deficit hawk anyway, so that's no surprise.

Even the Gipper didn't move us this far this fast!

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Even the Gipper didn't move us this far this fast!

Amen.

The TDS is alive and well I see here.

We've has decades of disintegration in DC and only a month of clawing it back so far.

Count your blessings that President Kamala and a Democrat Congress are not in charge.

[roamer_1]

Oh bullshit. He hasn't *done* ANYTHING.

It's ALL - *ALL* - Executive Orders

Gone like piss in the wind the moment the other side comes to power.

[DCPatriot]

Oh bullshit. He hasn't *done* ANYTHING.

It's ALL - *ALL* - Executive Orders

Gone like piss in the wind the moment the other side comes to power.

So easy, even a Montana hick could understand it...

First, by EO you show the nation how much better your approach/fix to a problem works when initiated.

THEN...you put the onus on the House and Senate to pass legislation to make said "fix" permanent

Rinse...repeat.

[roamer_1]

So easy, even a Montana hick could understand it...

THEN...you put the onus on the House and Senate to pass legislation to make said "fix" permanent

The EXACT OPPOSITE is what will occur.

They will circle the wagons to protect their power and their money spigot.

They will refuse to pass anything into law for him.
*Just like last time*, he will be roped into governing by EO - Anything he does will be gone in four years.

Watch and see.

[Bigun]

Oh bullshit. He hasn't *done* ANYTHING.

It's ALL - *ALL* - Executive Orders

Gone like piss in the wind the moment the other side comes to power.

LOL! I guess turning on the lights in every dark corner of government and watching the vermin scatter doesn't make a difference in your world but I'm personally loving every second of it.

[Bigun]

The EXACT OPPOSITE is what will occur.

They will circle the wagons to protect their power and their money spigot.

They will refuse to pass anything into law for him.
*Just like last time*, he will be roped into governing by EO - Anything he does will be gone in four years.

Watch and see.

Bull scat! It is already happening!

https://twitter.com/MilaLovesJoe/status/1892901198841442797

[roamer_1]

LOL! I guess turning on the lights in every dark corner of government and watching the vermin scatter doesn't make a difference in your world but I'm personally loving every second of it.

Shiny shit. I don't give a crap about any of it. Show me the money.

[roamer_1]

Bull scat! It is already happening!

I don't believe it. Any of it. Not until I see the bottom line.

[roamer_1]

It's called 'Running to your prophets with itching ears'. 

[Bigun]

It's called 'Running to your prophets with itching ears'. 

Must be different down here. We call it observing events that have actually happened.

[roamer_1]

Must be different down here. We call it observing events that have actually happened.

It's all 'Big Show' until the receipts come down.

[DCPatriot]

The EXACT OPPOSITE is what will occur.

They will circle the wagons to protect their power and their money spigot.

They will refuse to pass anything into law for him.
*Just like last time*, he will be roped into governing by EO - Anything he does will be gone in four years.

Watch and see.

You may very well be correct...but THAT would only support our testimony that he's only a man and not a "King".

Just because the Resolute Desk is his at the moment, doesn't follow that it's his 'Fault' he's the reason for the failure.

IMO, his current speed this past month...where every morning seems like Christmas Morning will serve the coming Mid-Terms in the GOP favor.

Let's hope so...   

[Hoodat]

So easy, even a Montana hick could understand it...

First, by EO you show the nation how much better your approach/fix to a problem works when initiated.

THEN...you put the onus on the House and Senate to pass legislation to make said "fix" permanent

Rinse...repeat.

We'll see at the end of the fiscal year.  The ONLY thing that will matter is how much money remains in the Treasury at the end of the year, and what they do with that money.  For anything under $2 trillion, the ONLY fiscally responsible course of action would be to remove that money from circulation.  Give it back to the Fed and tell them to destroy it.  We could even rent out a stadium, pile up $2 trillion in $100-bills, and set it on fire.  Do that, and we will have then accomplished something.  Anything short of that is basically doing exactly what we've been doing for the last 60+ years.

We, the current taxpayers, OVERSPENT.  We the taxpayers received $6.8 trillion worth of government, but paid only $4.8 trillion.  The extra $2 trillion must be paid back.  This fiscal year.  No talk of windfall or payouts.  Send that $2 trillion back where it came from.

[DCPatriot]

We'll see at the end of the fiscal year.  The ONLY thing that will matter is how much money remains in the Treasury at the end of the year, and what they do with that money.  For anything under $2 trillion, the ONLY fiscally responsible course of action would be to remove that money from circulation.  Give it back to the Fed and tell them to destroy it.  We could even rent out a stadium, pile up $2 trillion in $100-bills, and set it on fire.  Do that, and we will have then accomplished something.  Anything short of that is basically doing exactly what we've been doing for the last 60+ years.

We, the current taxpayers, OVERSPENT.  We the taxpayers received $6.8 trillion worth of government, but paid only $4.8 trillion.  The extra $2 trillion must be paid back.  This fiscal year.  No talk of windfall or payouts.  Send that $2 trillion back where it came from.

You're suggest June 30th, 2025?

Considering the short length of time from today, you think that is sufficiently fair?   

[roamer_1]

You may very well be correct...but THAT would only support our testimony that he's only a man and not a "King".

Just because the Resolute Desk is his at the moment, doesn't follow that it's his 'Fault' he's the reason for the failure.

Well, yes in fact, it does. He was hired to run the show. If he can't get the others to follow and adopt his agenda, then he did in fact fail, by the very definition.

And as he continues to piss off absolutely everyone he needs to pass law, that failure is predictable.

IMO, his current speed this past month...where every morning seems like Christmas Morning will serve the coming Mid-Terms in the GOP favor.

Let's hope so..[/size].   

I don't think so. All hat and no cattle.

[roamer_1]

We'll see at the end of the fiscal year.  The ONLY thing that will matter is how much money remains in the Treasury at the end of the year, and what they do with that money.  For anything under $2 trillion, the ONLY fiscally responsible course of action would be to remove that money from circulation.  Give it back to the Fed and tell them to destroy it.  We could even rent out a stadium, pile up $2 trillion in $100-bills, and set it on fire.  Do that, and we will have then accomplished something.  Anything short of that is basically doing exactly what we've been doing for the last 60+ years.

We, the current taxpayers, OVERSPENT.  We the taxpayers received $6.8 trillion worth of government, but paid only $4.8 trillion.  The extra $2 trillion must be paid back.  This fiscal year.  No talk of windfall or payouts.  Send that $2 trillion back where it came from.

 

 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Must be different down here. We call it observing events that have actually happened.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Same TDS people who made wrong declarations that he could not be elected.

Their agenda prevents them from ackowledging truth, even when it is laid out before them.

[libertybele]

Good grief, Trump hasn't even been in office for 3 months, he's appointed some very competent people, unveiled a lot of $$$ that was corruptly spent ... and I find it really disheartening that he's being ridiculed. 

Give Trump some credit here and let's wait and see what happens in the next couple of months; hopefully we'll start to see some people being held accountable and a completed border wall.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

We'll see at the end of the fiscal year.  The ONLY thing that will matter is how much money remains in the Treasury at the end of the year, and what they do with that money.  For anything under $2 trillion, the ONLY fiscally responsible course of action would be to remove that money from circulation.  Give it back to the Fed and tell them to destroy it.  We could even rent out a stadium, pile up $2 trillion in $100-bills, and set it on fire.  Do that, and we will have then accomplished something.  Anything short of that is basically doing exactly what we've been doing for the last 60+ years.

We, the current taxpayers, OVERSPENT.  We the taxpayers received $6.8 trillion worth of government, but paid only $4.8 trillion.  The extra $2 trillion must be paid back.  This fiscal year.  No talk of windfall or payouts.  Send that $2 trillion back where it came from.

I would like this as well, But seems an extravagant demand in view of the compilation of at least 60 years of this building up with many Presidents and Congresses.  In addition, to make changes stick, there are a myriad of laws that must be obeyed, lawsuits that need addressing, and the congressional sausage maker has to weigh in to get all this done.  Not amenable to rapid movements.

Between the ideas of fast @Hoodat and the more methodical @jafo2010 , maybe there is some middle ground to embark on that can get the job done without saying it a failure if timelines not absolutely reached.

[DCPatriot]

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Same TDS people who made wrong declarations that he could not be elected.

Their agenda prevents them from acknowledging truth, even when it is laid out before them.

LOL!  Exactly like se see here in TBR

[Cyber Liberty]

Good grief, Trump hasn't even been in office for 3 months, he's appointed some very competent people, unveiled a lot of $$$ that was corruptly spent ... and I find it really disheartening that he's being ridiculed. 

Give Trump some credit here and let's wait and see what happens in the next couple of months; hopefully we'll start to see some people being held accountable and a completed border wall.

Donald Trump was inaugurated one month ago yesterday.

[libertybele]

Donald Trump was inaugurated one month ago yesterday.

At this point in time all I can say is God Bless President Trump and I think he has made some significant strides.

[roamer_1]

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Same TDS people who made wrong declarations that he could not be elected.

Their agenda prevents them from ackowledging truth, even when it is laid out before them.

I have no agenda except Conservatism. That is the only true thing discussed hereon, and the only thing I rise to defend.

[roamer_1]

Good grief, Trump hasn't even been in office for 3 months, he's appointed some very competent people, unveiled a lot of $$$ that was corruptly spent ... and I find it really disheartening that he's being ridiculed. 

Give Trump some credit here and let's wait and see what happens in the next couple of months; hopefully we'll start to see some people being held accountable and a completed border wall.

And all that trumpeted in messianic tones, when really, he hasn't done a damn thing yet.
If he does something real and worthwhile, and he is carrying receipts, THEN I will happily give him credit, as I have always done.

I ain't into this hero-worshiping bullshit, and especially when the whole damn show don't amount to a row of pins. I find the whole mess to be off-putting.

[the OlLine Rebel]

And all that trumpeted in messianic tones, when really, he hasn't done a damn thing yet.
If he does something real and worthwhile, and he is carrying receipts, THEN I will happily give him credit, as I have always done.

I ain't into this hero-worshiping bullshit, and especially when the whole damn show don't amount to a row of pins. I find the whole mess to be off-putting.

Agreed all around.

I keep feeling like we need the double facepalm with Trump.  1 step forward…2 steps back.

[Bigun]

And all that trumpeted in messianic tones, when really, he hasn't done a damn thing yet.
If he does something real and worthwhile, and he is carrying receipts, THEN I will happily give him credit, as I have always done.

I ain't into this hero-worshiping bullshit, and especially when the whole damn show don't amount to a row of pins. I find the whole mess to be off-putting.

Pipe down! The rest of us are enjoying the show!

[Timber Rattler]

Pipe down! The rest of us are enjoying the show!

And that is exactly what it is... a damned show.

 

[Bigun]

And that is exactly what it is... a damned show.

 

If so, it's the best damned show I've seen in my entire 76 years on this globe and I'm loving every second of it!

[catfish1957]

And that is exactly what it is... a damned show.

 

Tell me without cracking a smile that you didn't enjoy the McDonalds and Garbage Truck episode.

A little levity doesn't hurt in the process.

[roamer_1]

And that is exactly what it is... a damned show.

 

 

[roamer_1]

Tell me without cracking a smile that you didn't enjoy the McDonalds and Garbage Truck episode.

A little levity doesn't hurt in the process.

I didn't find it funny.

[roamer_1]

Pipe down! The rest of us are enjoying the show!

Sorry Bubba, the honeymoon is over. I gave you that with barely a peep.

[catfish1957]

I didn't find it funny.

You are out-grouching me.  And that is saying something. 

[roamer_1]

You are out-grouching me.  And that is saying something.

Nah... I just find his humor to be a crass misuse of crassness.

[DCPatriot]

Sorry Bubba, the honeymoon is over. I gave you that with barely a peep.

Yeah, "...barely a peep" because you didn't know whether to sh*t or go home!!

Only reason you're back on the soapbox is because few others like the tin-man and scarecrow have given you courage.

[roamer_1]

Yeah, "...barely a peep" because you didn't know whether to sh*t or go home!!

Only reason you're back on the soapbox is because few others like the tin-man and scarecrow have given you courage.

Nope. Just exercising a little charity - Letting y'all have your little masturbatory moment in private. Besides, the place smelled like a frat house, so I went elsewhere for a while.

But I will rise again to defend Conservatism, as I always have and always will.

[catfish1957]

Nope. Just exercising a little charity - Letting y'all have your little masturbatory moment in private. Besides, the place smelled like a frat house, so I went elsewhere for a while.

But I will rise again to defend Conservatism, as I always have and always will.

Wow, since when did exposing $1T in fraud in government corruption not be a conservative principle?  You're  losing us Roamey

[roamer_1]

Wow, since when did exposing $1T in fraud in government corruption not be a conservative principle?  You're  losing us Roamey

Certainly looks that way. Exposing fraud don't mean sh*t. You choose to believe, so you DO believe.

I don't believe the report on purpose... Because nothing is to be believed until the receipts are in hand. PERIOD. That ain't against Tumpy btw. That's against ALL the sonsabiches.

Like I said - The bottom line. If this crap actually makes it to the bottom line, THEN credit is due. Broad strokes such as these surely will reduce the cost of government, RIGHT?
Then they should be rendered TRUE when the bill comes due.

THEN I will believe. Not until. This is how they drag all y'all around by the nose. Drama, Drama, Drama. Panic. Fear. and by next week, you'll forget this and be on to the next dramatic flair... with the impression that something actually happened... But nothing so far. Just a promise and piss in your pocket. But BIG Sh*tNStuff!!! BIGLY!!! 

Show me the money.

[roamer_1]

Show me the money.

And THAT, btw, is as Conservative as it gets.

[Hoodat]

And THAT, btw, is as Conservative as it gets.

Yep.  I want to see unspent money sitting in the Treasury at the end of the fiscal year.  And I want to see a spending freeze implemented the last week in August to block that annual flurry of spending those final weeks.

[roamer_1]

Yep.  I want to see unspent money sitting in the Treasury at the end of the fiscal year.  And I want to see a spending freeze implemented the last week in August to block that annual flurry of spending those final weeks.

My bet is that there will be no unspent money... Just differently spent money... And another trillion tacked on. Watch and see.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Tell me without cracking a smile that you didn't enjoy the McDonalds and Garbage Truck episode.

A little levity doesn't hurt in the process.

That’s funny, coming from a man who has a perpetual Mussolini frown.

Yeah, he’s full of levity.

But yes, those times were cute.

[MeganC]

Russian state media says that Trump is Putin's poodle.

https://youtu.be/QWbtUcVPw8g?si=oXvgEmK9Ib3SX80o

[DCPatriot]

My bet is that there will be no unspent money... Just differently spent money... And another trillion tacked on. Watch and see.

I don't give a fiddler's bleep...

Just to have government thieves exposed and brought to bear...and bare (strip them of all ill gotten gains) is more than we'd all expect.

"It's all monopoly money, anyway!!" --- DCPatriot

[Hoodat]

I don't give a fiddler's bleep...

Just to have government thieves exposed and brought to bear...and bare (strip them of all ill gotten gains) is more than we'd all expect.

"It's all monopoly money, anyway!!" --- DCPatriot

If it's all Monopoly money, then why do you care?

[roamer_1]

Just to have government thieves exposed and brought to bear...and bare (strip them of all ill gotten gains) is more than we'd all expect.

Hold your horses there, son. Exposed, perhaps. But nobody's been convicted. No fines paid. Probably, nobody's even been fired yet!

But here you go, shakin your ass around like something actually happened. Touchdown Dance! WOO!

*NOTHING* has happened. It's just said to have happened. But you believe the press, doncha?

[DCPatriot]

If it's all Monopoly money, then why do you care?

IMO, the $37 TRILLION debt will NEVER be repaid. NEVER...NEVER...NEVER!!!  It's an abstract!

However, stripping thieving government officials of their bank accounts and assets is a whole different animal.