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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #150 on: July 16, 2024, 01:19:34 pm »
Well, this is definitely a positive.

But more or less irrelevant at this point given the constitutional protections.

This pick will lose Trump votes among some Republicans.
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« Reply #151 on: July 16, 2024, 01:23:43 pm »
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #152 on: July 16, 2024, 01:37:22 pm »
Bernie Sanders

The guy who has a history of vocalizing support for brutal Communist regimes. Nice

It wouldn’t surprise me if sometime during the convention we hear support for universal healthcare and a $30 minimum wage

I could stomach Trump leading the GOP more so than Vance.  Economically, he's a classic "I hate the rich" kind of guy.
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« Reply #153 on: July 16, 2024, 02:16:30 pm »
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« Reply #154 on: July 16, 2024, 02:20:49 pm »
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« Reply #155 on: July 16, 2024, 02:32:00 pm »
I have no doubt that JD Vance is a very decent man who served this country and appears to be a good husband and father


But we are definitely going to see a movement away from free and open economy to a more planned and controlled one in the next four years. That will have real ramifications.

Trade barriers will replace free trade

Bailouts will replace market fundamentals

Instead of the market weeding out winners and losers, Government is going to play a more prominent role in that decision


The only difference between the two camps this fall is the degree of each happening. Biden will tend the support more regulations on business than Trump does. But as we saw during Trump’s first term, that  doesn’t overcome other barriers

QFT. Four years from now your words will be hailed as prophetic. Too bad 'magical thinking' holds most folks attention right now instead.

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« Reply #156 on: July 16, 2024, 02:59:17 pm »
But more or less irrelevant at this point given the constitutional protections.

This pick will lose Trump votes among some Republicans.

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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #157 on: July 16, 2024, 03:21:37 pm »
But more or less irrelevant at this point given the constitutional protections.

This pick will lose Trump votes among some Republicans.

It's not so much Vance, per se.  It's Trump showing that he hasn't learned a damn thing since 2016.  Having Vance on the ticket is not as big of a problem as is being stupid enough to put Vance on the ticket.  Day One of Trump's second term, and the GOP will already be down a Senator.  And with six clear battleground States, Trump decides to select someone who will be zero help in any of them.  Maybe even a negative for Michigan voters who have no love of anything from Ohio.  Politically, this was a horrendous choice.  Poor judgment yet again from Trump.  Now looking forward to seeing Ronna McDaniel chosen for Chief of Staff.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #158 on: July 16, 2024, 03:34:21 pm »
Day One of Trump's second term, and the GOP will already be down a Senator.  And with six clear battleground States, Trump decides to select someone who will be zero help in any of them.
If more-or-less Republican Gov. DeWine picks a Republican to fill Vance's seat, is the GOP down a seat? If he selects the right guy (or gal), that person may retain the seat at the next election. That's why I think Ramaswamy is not the right choice for DeWine. He doesn't carry any weight with Ohio voters.
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« Reply #159 on: July 16, 2024, 03:45:31 pm »
If more-or-less Republican Gov. DeWine picks a Republican to fill Vance's seat, is the GOP down a seat?

Not if he does it quickly.  But DeWine is no Conservative.  So I'm not very confidant that he will choose a good successor.
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« Reply #160 on: July 16, 2024, 03:48:10 pm »
Not if he does it quickly.  But DeWine is no Conservative.  So I'm not very confidant that he will choose a good successor.
I agree. That's why I hope DeWine doesn't pay attention to Vivek supposedly wanting the seat.
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« Reply #161 on: July 16, 2024, 03:49:07 pm »
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #162 on: July 16, 2024, 03:50:52 pm »

So his political positions don’t matter to you? As long as the left doesn’t like him, that’s good enough?

It speaks volumes!

He's a great pick. I know the interventionists and "free trade" Pubs won't like him, but it's about time to change how we deal with the rest of the world. We won the cold war. The USSR no longer exists so it's about time for Europe to start defending itself. Also, all the globalist free traders have gotten us is a dependence on other nations, many of which don't like us, for essential goods.
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« Reply #163 on: July 16, 2024, 03:51:09 pm »
Maybe Dr. Oz could move across the Penn boarder to Ohio!.  He'd be a good fit! /s
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« Reply #164 on: July 16, 2024, 03:51:27 pm »
I could stomach Trump leading the GOP more so than Vance.  Economically, he's a classic "I hate the rich" kind of guy.

Economically, he’s to the left of Biden
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #165 on: July 16, 2024, 03:55:38 pm »
That isn't what he said.

Thank you!

I appreciate that someone understood my point.

FWIW, I don't disagree with his policy positions. It's long past time for the Pubs to place an emphasis on helping people achieve the American Dream.
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« Reply #166 on: July 16, 2024, 03:57:36 pm »
It speaks volumes!

He's a great pick. I know the interventionists and "free trade" Pubs won't like him, but it's about time to change how we deal with the rest of the world. We won the cold war. The USSR no longer exists so it's about time for Europe to start defending itself. Also, all the globalist free traders have gotten us is a dependence on other nations, many of which don't like us, for essential goods.


Donald Trump’s tariffs started a trade war and damaged the economy the first time around. He blamed the media all the way up to American companies for their failure. You can’t dodge the law of Economics


But hey, maybe he’ll have better luck with the larger ones he’s proposing if he wins a second term
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« Reply #167 on: July 16, 2024, 04:01:41 pm »

Donald Trump’s tariffs started a trade war and damaged the economy the first time around. He blamed the media all the way up to American companies for their failure. You can’t dodge the law of Economics


But hey, maybe he’ll have better luck with the larger ones he’s proposing if he wins a second term

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« Reply #168 on: July 16, 2024, 04:05:12 pm »
QFT. Four years from now your words will be hailed as prophetic. Too bad 'magical thinking' holds most folks attention right now instead.

What’s mind-boggling to me is Trump already has a record and has attempted many of this stuff while president and yet his supporters think if he does it even harder and larger, the results will be different


You can’t print trillions of dollars and throw it in the economy without it at some point triggering inflation. The history of economics shows the damage that that does to a nation’s currency

Both Trump and JD Vance also support a weaker dollar. That further decreases the purchasing power of peoples paychecks and savings

There’s no magical way around the law of economics or math

And as far as Protectionist tariffs both the McKinley tariffs of 1890 and the Smoot Hawley Act caused enough damage to the economy that both ended up wiping Republicans out of office

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« Reply #169 on: July 16, 2024, 04:11:19 pm »
What’s mind-boggling to me is Trump already has a record and has attempted many of this stuff while president and yet his supporters think if he does it even harder and larger, the results will be different

No different than those communists who believe that communism will turn the world into one giant utopia if they can only find the right person to run it.
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« Reply #170 on: July 16, 2024, 04:14:04 pm »
It's not so much Vance, per se. It's Trump showing that he hasn't learned a damn thing since 2016.  Having Vance on the ticket is not as big of a problem as is being stupid enough to put Vance on the ticket.  Day One of Trump's second term, and the GOP will already be down a Senator.  And with six clear battleground States, Trump decides to select someone who will be zero help in any of them.  Maybe even a negative for Michigan voters who have no love of anything from Ohio.  Politically, this was a horrendous choice.  Poor judgment yet again from Trump.  Now looking forward to seeing Ronna McDaniel chosen for Chief of Staff.

I disagree.

The Trump I've been seeing is more restrained, especially at the debate. He seems to have learned to be more presidential.  Among the things Trump seems to have learned is to keep the country club Pubs at arms length and not in a key position such as VP.

We need the VP to be a tough campaigner who can get after the Rats. Let Trump take the "high road". Vance fits this role perfectly and we get the added benefit of a young dynamic person from the next generation who can carry a successful administration forward after Trump's term is over.

I don't get all the anxiety about the America First movement. We need key manufacturing to return to the USA and if tariffs are a tool to do it I'm all for it. I think the inflation and cost concerns are over blown if expanded energy production takes place along with some restrains in spending.
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« Reply #171 on: July 16, 2024, 04:14:33 pm »
No different than those communists who believe that communism will turn the world into one giant utopia if they can only find the right person to run it.

It is absolutely the exact same mindset

When progressivism fails, it’s believers always have a scapegoat as to why it failed. Donald Trump did the same thing and I suspect we’re going to see more of it should he win another term
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« Reply #172 on: July 16, 2024, 04:23:20 pm »
We need the VP to be a tough campaigner who can get after the Rats. Let Trump take the "high road". Vance fits this role perfectly and we get the added benefit of a young dynamic person from the next generation who can carry a successful administration forward after Trump's term is over.

You can have Andrew Dice Clay as your VP, and it won't help you overcome fraud in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona.  Vance can play pit bull all he wants.  But if you want to win the election, you are going to need States like Virginia, Nevada, and New Hampshire.  And Vance doesn't help Trump with any of those.
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« Reply #173 on: July 16, 2024, 04:30:54 pm »
I disagree.

The Trump I've been seeing is more restrained, especially at the debate. He seems to have learned to be more presidential.  Among the things Trump seems to have learned is to keep the country club Pubs at arms length and not in a key position such as VP.

We need the VP to be a tough campaigner who can get after the Rats. Let Trump take the "high road". Vance fits this role perfectly and we get the added benefit of a young dynamic person from the next generation who can carry a successful administration forward after Trump's term is over.

I don't get all the anxiety about the America First movement. We need key manufacturing to return to the USA and if tariffs are a tool to do it I'm all for it. I think the inflation and cost concerns are over blown if expanded energy production takes place along with some restrains in spending.



Some of you forget that we do have a record from when Donald Trump was president the first time.


Will those working class voters who are now in the Trump camp instead of the Biden camp agree that increases in the cost of living are overblown?  How long will they stick around in the Trump camp if we get the JD Vance currency devaluation that he seems to be so fond of?


We’ve been drilling record amounts of oil. Yet inflation persists. It persists because we are printing money to finance $2 trillion deficits, which, BTW, Trump doesn’t seem to have an issue with


Our economy no  longer employees large numbers of people to be on assembly lines on factory floors. Robots and machines do the work now. Trump and Vance seem to believe that they will usher in a return to a 1950’s economy. And even if it was possible, tariffs wouldn’t do it


I think the America First movement means well. But they are terribly misguided



There was  a whole thread recently dedicated to Trump’s tariff proposals, and not one single supporter of them could give any example of where Trump’s tariffs provided a positive to the economy. Not one.

And do you know what Javier Milei did as part of his effort to control inflation and improve the economy  in  Argentina….. lifted  import controls and pushing for more free trade!!!


Free markets and free trade… I say we need more, not less, of it
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #174 on: July 16, 2024, 04:40:08 pm »
But more or less irrelevant at this point given the constitutional protections.

This pick will lose Trump votes among some Republicans.

I know very little about JD and only what I briefly read yesterday about his wife being friends with Ramsy which I find troubling.

However, that has zero impact on my voting for Trump. Why do you think JD will lose Trump votes???

Again, they tried to take Trump out for his competency not his incompetency.  I have no problem casting a vote for Trump now.  JD or no JD.


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« Reply #175 on: July 16, 2024, 04:57:10 pm »
I'm not a one issue voter.  No one candidate is going to be completely in sync with me. But if it were, it might be the projection of confidence and power to the rest of the world.

We darn sure don't have that today with Biden/Kamala.

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« Reply #177 on: July 16, 2024, 05:16:01 pm »
I'm not a one issue voter.  No one candidate is going to be completely in sync with me. But if it were, it might be the projection of confidence and power to the rest of the world.

We darn sure don't have that today with Biden/Kamala.


I’m not a single issue voter eother. There’s always gonna be some things I disagree with any candidate on.


But I can’t recall in  my lifetime a more economic left wing ticket on the Republican side. I have this feeling we’re about to put a mix of Hoover and George McGovern in the White House. I can’t recall ever hearing Biden or Harris supporting currency devaluation, at least publicly
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« Reply #178 on: July 16, 2024, 05:26:26 pm »
   Of all the people floated by the Trump org and the LSM~Stefanik, Carson, Burgum, Rubio, Tulsi, Sarah Huckabee, Scott, Ramaswamy and Noem, I think he did as best that be expected of him, since DeSantis refused to be his VP.
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« Reply #179 on: July 16, 2024, 05:27:02 pm »

I’m not a single issue voter eother. There’s always gonna be some things I disagree with any candidate on.


But I can’t recall in  my lifetime a more economic left wing ticket on the Republican side. I have this feeling we’re about to put a mix of Hoover and George McGovern in the White House. I can’t recall ever hearing Biden or Harris supporting currency devaluation, at least publicly



I understand you and totally agree. We are in an economic crisis. The tragedy is that we really don't have candidates on either side that are going to take the steps needed to rectify the situation. Until we hit rock bottom, we won't get a Coolidge...if then. I'd like that dude in Argentina. But no luck.

So I'll just try to focus on some of the positives.

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« Reply #180 on: July 16, 2024, 05:29:49 pm »


I understand you and totally agree. We are in an economic crisis. The tragedy is that we really don't have candidates on either side that are going to take the steps needed to rectify the situation. Until we hit rock bottom, we won't get a Coolidge...if then. I'd like that dude in Argentina. But no luck.

So I'll just try to focus on some of the positives.

Calvin Coolidge is my favorite president and, not that I’m gay, but I am in love with that Argentina president, Javier Milei


But we shouldn’t have to wait until we have an economic and fiscal crisis before electing people such as Coolidge. Because if it happens under Donald Trump‘s watch, we could end up with a very progressive Democrat as President follow him
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« Reply #181 on: July 16, 2024, 05:37:27 pm »
   Of all the people floated by the Trump org and the LSM~Stefanik, Carson, Burgum, Rubio, Tulsi, Sarah Huckabee, Scott, Ramaswamy and Noem, I think he did as best that be expected of him, since DeSantis refused to be his VP.

Returning Virginia to the GOP column and putting Winsome Sears in the Governor's mansion would have been nice.
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« Reply #182 on: July 16, 2024, 05:38:24 pm »
not that I’m gay, but I am in love with that Argentina president, Javier Milei

I want to have Javier Milei's baby.
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« Reply #183 on: July 16, 2024, 05:46:39 pm »
   Of all the people floated by the Trump org and the LSM~Stefanik, Carson, Burgum, Rubio, Tulsi, Sarah Huckabee, Scott, Ramaswamy and Noem, I think he did as best that be expected of him, since DeSantis refused to be his VP.
I thought he couldn't go with a fellow Floridian, which would leave out both DeSantis and Rubio.  :shrug:
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #185 on: July 16, 2024, 06:04:18 pm »
I know very little about JD and only what I briefly read yesterday about his wife being friends with Ramsy which I find troubling.

However, that has zero impact on my voting for Trump. Why do you think JD will lose Trump votes???

Again, they tried to take Trump out for his competency not his incompetency.  I have no problem casting a vote for Trump now.  JD or no JD.


Better hope there is no crisis like the first time Trump was President. He failed big time!
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #186 on: July 16, 2024, 06:32:54 pm »
Calvin Coolidge is my favorite president and, not that I’m gay, but I am in love with that Argentina president, Javier Milei


But we shouldn’t have to wait until we have an economic and fiscal crisis before electing people such as Coolidge. Because if it happens under Donald Trump‘s watch, we could end up with a very progressive Democrat as President follow him


You know how well Trump can handle a crisis.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #187 on: July 16, 2024, 06:43:02 pm »
Returning Virginia to the GOP column and putting Winsome Sears in the Governor's mansion would have been nice.
Yep, as I had thought Youngkin to be the one
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« Reply #188 on: July 16, 2024, 09:11:49 pm »
Bernie Sanders

The guy who has a history of vocalizing support for brutal Communist regimes. Nice

It wouldn’t surprise me if sometime during the convention we hear support for universal healthcare and a $30 minimum wage

Called it

https://reason.com/2024/06/14/j-d-vances-incoherent-argument-for-higher-minimum-wages/


And. 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/16/the-trump-vance-ticket-is-a-repudiation-of-free-market-conservatism-00168578#:~:text=Few%20Republicans%20have%20been%20more,aggressive%20antitrust%20chief%2C%20Lina%20Khan.

Few Republicans have been more vocally critical of the party's modern economic conventions than Vance, who has embraced not just tariffs, but also policies like a higher minimum wage



Watch how quickly MAGA’s  start supporting minimum wage hikes :silly: :silly:

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« Reply #189 on: July 16, 2024, 09:20:22 pm »
Called it

https://reason.com/2024/06/14/j-d-vances-incoherent-argument-for-higher-minimum-wages/


And. 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/16/the-trump-vance-ticket-is-a-repudiation-of-free-market-conservatism-00168578#:~:text=Few%20Republicans%20have%20been%20more,aggressive%20antitrust%20chief%2C%20Lina%20Khan.

Few Republicans have been more vocally critical of the party's modern economic conventions than Vance, who has embraced not just tariffs, but also policies like a higher minimum wage


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The interview above (Reason) of JD Vance is economic death.

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« Reply #190 on: July 16, 2024, 09:37:43 pm »
Yep, as I had thought Youngkin to be the one
Youngkin would be good, but I suspect they saw Vance as more appealing to younger voters (millennials, or whatever Vance's generation are called).
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« Reply #191 on: July 16, 2024, 09:39:16 pm »
And here he is on Obama care

But he’s also expressed opposition to completely repealing ObamaCare, has supported Medicare drug price negotiation,


https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4775098-vance-healthcare-positions/


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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #192 on: July 16, 2024, 09:41:58 pm »
Trump-Vance Administration Could Herald New Era for Dollar

Donald J. Trump’s selection of Ohio Senator J.D. Vance to be his vice-presidential nominee pairs him with a kindred spirit on trade, taxes and a tough stance on China. But it is their shared affinity for a weak dollar that could have the most sweeping implications for the United States and the global economy.

In most cases, Mr. Trump likes his policies to be “strong,” but when it comes to the value of the dollar, he has long expressed a different view. Its strength, he has argued, has made it harder for American manufacturers to sell their products abroad to buyers that use weaker currencies. That’s because their money is worth so much less than the dollars that they need to make those purchases.

“As your president, one would think that I would be thrilled with our very strong dollar,” Mr. Trump said in 2019, explaining that U.S. companies like Caterpillar and Boeing were struggling to compete. “I am not!”

The dollar has been the world’s dominant currency since World War II, and central banks hold about 60 percent of their foreign exchange reserves in dollars, according to the Congressional Research Service.

The United States has maintained a “strong dollar” policy since the 1990s, when Robert E. Rubin, the Treasury secretary at the time, declared that he did not view it as a threat to the ability of American business to compete abroad. The United States avoids taking measures to steer the strength of the dollar, and Treasury secretaries tend to argue that currency values should be determined by market forces. When countries, such as China, have acted to weaken their currencies, the U.S. has shamed them as currency manipulators.

It is not clear how Mr. Trump would go about weakening the dollar. His Treasury Department could try to sell dollars to buy foreign currency or try to persuade the Federal Reserve to just print more dollars.

A concerted shift in policy could have reverberations for international commerce of all kinds. The depreciation of the dollar, along with Mr. Trump’s plan to increase tariffs on imports, could also reignite inflation when price increases are finally easing.

“Depreciation would add to inflation,” said Mark Sobel, a former longtime Treasury Department official who is now the U.S. chairman of the Official Monetary and Financial Institutions Forum. “So would tariff hikes. Plus, a highly expansionary fiscal policy would add to demand pressures.”.............

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/16/us/politics/trump-vance-us-dollar.html

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« Reply #193 on: July 16, 2024, 09:50:09 pm »
It takes out of this world ineptness and stupidity to pursue  policies that will put further cost pressures on American consumers and businesses when they’re all already dealing Government caused inflation


I think we’re gonna find that, as we get closer to the election and people start paying more attention and these issues come front and center to the American voter, JD Vance may end up hurting Trump more than helping.

We’ll see
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« Reply #194 on: July 16, 2024, 09:54:51 pm »
It takes out of this world ineptness and stupidity to pursue  policies that will put further cost pressures on American consumers and businesses when they’re all already dealing Government caused inflation

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« Reply #195 on: July 16, 2024, 10:00:44 pm »
"As you ramble on through life, brother...whatever be your goal
Keep you eye upon the doughnut and not upon the hole!!"


Ok I have no idea what that means but whatever


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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #196 on: July 16, 2024, 10:11:24 pm »
   Of all the people floated by the Trump org and the LSM~Stefanik, Carson, Burgum, Rubio, Tulsi, Sarah Huckabee, Scott, Ramaswamy and Noem, I think he did as best that be expected of him, since DeSantis refused to be his VP.

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« Reply #197 on: July 16, 2024, 10:11:25 pm »
Youngkin would be good, but I suspect they saw Vance as more appealing to younger voters (millennials, or whatever Vance's generation are called).

Does he barely get to be called Gen X?  Or barely what we used to call Gen Y?
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« Reply #198 on: July 16, 2024, 10:17:20 pm »
Does he barely get to be called Gen X?  Or barely what we used to call Gen Y?
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« Reply #199 on: July 16, 2024, 10:22:09 pm »
It takes out of this world ineptness and stupidity to pursue  policies that will put further cost pressures on American consumers and businesses when they’re all already dealing Government caused inflation


I think we’re gonna find that, as we get closer to the election and people start paying more attention and these issues come front and center to the American voter, JD Vance may end up hurting Trump more than helping.

We’ll see

You have a valid point but I am not so sure he's going to be a deal breaker for Trump's re-election. Certainly  not enough for people to vote for Biden.

Yes we shall see.  So far, as I continue to read about JD I am not impressed with him in the least. Sigh.