Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president

[LMAO]

Yes we shall see.  So far, as I continue to read about JD I am not impressed with him in the least. Sigh.

Well, he seems to be a smart guy with an impressive résumé and a good family. There’s no accusations of corruption or controversy in his life.

But he is shockingly left-wing for somebody who is a Republican. I didn’t realize how much to the left he is. I don’t think even Donald Trump has supported raising the minimum wage and Trump, to his credit, did at least try to repeal Obamacare

[kevindavis007]

Called it

https://reason.com/2024/06/14/j-d-vances-incoherent-argument-for-higher-minimum-wages/


And. 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/16/the-trump-vance-ticket-is-a-repudiation-of-free-market-conservatism-00168578#:~:text=Few%20Republicans%20have%20been%20more,aggressive%20antitrust%20chief%2C%20Lina%20Khan.

Few Republicans have been more vocally critical of the party's modern economic conventions than Vance, who has embraced not just tariffs, but also policies like a higher minimum wage


Watch how quickly MAGA’s  start supporting minimum wage hikes

@kevindavis007

@LMAO


I'm shocked.. They would support Universal healthcare if Trump supports it.

[Hoodat]

Youngkin would be good, but I suspect they saw Vance as more appealing to younger voters (millennials, or whatever Vance's generation are called).

Vance kisses Trump's ass while Younkin does not.  That's all that mattered here.

[kevindavis007]

https://twitter.com/reason/status/1813271282823094647

[libertybele]

So a bit of positive news about JD (per @rangerrebew article in a different thread)

Vance last year introduced the “Drive American Act,” S. 2962, which would repeal the federal tax credit for electric vehicles and instead offer tax credits for U.S.-made vehicles powered only by gasoline or diesel.

[Polly Ticks]

Does he barely get to be called Gen X?  Or barely what we used to call Gen Y?

Millennial, apparently.   

[mystery-ak]

Fact Check: Democrats Try to Smear J.D. Vance as Antisemitic, Anti-Israel

The fact that Democrats have to stoop to gross distortions and outright lies to cast Vance in a way designed to frighten Jewish voters away from voting Republican suggests they are rather desperate and have little material to work with.
https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2024/07/17/fact-check-democrats-try-to-smear-j-d-vance-as-antisemitic-anti-israel/

WATCH: J.D. Vance Advocates for Robust U.S. Support of Israel in Line with America First Policy

Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance, who was selected as former President Donald Trump’s running mate on Monday, underscored the importance of U.S. support for Israel within his America First foreign policy framework, highlighting its moral, religious, and strategic basis, while critiquing decades of U.S. foreign policy.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/16/watch-j-d-vance-advocates-for-robust-u-s-support-of-israel-in-line-with-america-first-policy/

[libertybele]

WATCH: J.D. Vance Advocates for Robust U.S. Support of Israel in Line with America First Policy

Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance, who was selected as former President Donald Trump’s running mate on Monday, underscored the importance of U.S. support for Israel within his America First foreign policy framework, highlighting its moral, religious, and strategic basis, while critiquing decades of U.S. foreign policy.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/16/watch-j-d-vance-advocates-for-robust-u-s-support-of-israel-in-line-with-america-first-policy/

 

[LMAO]

The interview above (Reason) of JD Vance is economic death.

They don’t care

This election is nothing more than which side will be able to shake their butts at the other on election night

Seizing assets of nonprofits that he disagrees  with

Restrictive and protective trade barriers


Increase in the minimum wage


Align more with the Bernie Bros

Keeping Obamacare

Government intervention in the economy


“Make America Soviet”  should be the new slogan. These are the kind of positions you expect to come from the Democrat Party and “the squad” in particular


We could potentially see the largest expansion of government since the 1930’s

[bilo]

You have a valid point but I am not so sure he's going to be a deal breaker for Trump's re-election. Certainly  not enough for people to vote for Biden.

Yes we shall see.  So far, as I continue to read about JD I am not impressed with him in the least. Sigh.

Don't buy into the TDS spilling over onto the VP pick.

JD is a great VP pick. He is smart, can deal with the media and is a good debater. He is what we want to see in this country, a man who rose to prominence even though everything was stacked against him. I think it's a very good thing to have someone in the POTUS inner circle who has lived in the bottom 20% of the country. The establishment loyalists can't help themselves. They want candidates who will embrace classroom theories that guarantee losing but give them the "high ground".

I want a team that wins and can actually make some changes. The road we've been going down only leads to our collapse.

[LMAO]

Don't buy into the TDS spilling over onto the VP pick.

I haven’t seen any of that here. Claiming that people who are critical of his economic and fiscal policies as having TDS is cowardly

Those of us who are highly critical of him have  done so with his own words and his record

Government intervention in the economy does not bring prosperity. That’s part of the reason why the Great Depression lasted as long as it did


Again, it’s free market economies that bring  prosperity and create wealth. Command and control economies do the opposite

And the negative effects of increasing  the minimum wage isn’t “classroom theories.” We see the real life effects of doing such. Iceland, Sweden, Denmark, and Norway don’t even have a federally mandated minimum wage. At one time, Republicans oppose the minimum wage not because they were mean, but because of the economic ramifications of doing such.

[libertybele]

I haven’t seen any of that here. Claiming that people who are critical of his economic and fiscal policies as having TDS is cowardly

Those of us who are highly critical of him have  done so with his own words and his record

Government intervention in the economy does not bring prosperity. That’s part of the reason why the Great Depression lasted as long as it did


Again, it’s free market economies that bring  prosperity and create wealth. Command and control economies do the opposite

And the negative effects of increasing  the minimum wage isn’t “classroom theories.” We see the real life effects of doing such

I definitely agree with you on this.

[LMAO]

The Republican Party has gone from the TParty to embracing Democratic Socialism in just under 20 years

[cato potatoe]

JD is a great VP pick. He is smart, can deal with the media and is a good debater. He is what we want to see in this country, a man who rose to prominence even though everything was stacked against him. I think it's a very good thing to have someone in the POTUS inner circle who has lived in the bottom 20% of the country. The establishment loyalists can't help themselves. They want candidates who will embrace classroom theories that guarantee losing but give them the "high ground".

Vance did well in his debates with Tim Ryan, and he is a thoughtful person capable of defending unusual positions.  What is worrisome is GOP's abandonment of sound fiscal policy while a debt crisis lurks in the background.  Trump escaped the blame for heavy inflation because Biden won the election, but his luck is going to run out eventually.  I just don't see JD Vance steering him in the right direction.

[mountaineer]

A whole lotta hyperbole goin' on ...

[Right_in_Virginia]

Dan Scavino
@DanScavino

President Donald J. Trump and Vice Presidential Nominee, Senator JD Vance to Hold a Rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan this Saturday, July 20th—at 5:00pmE!

2:39 PM · Jul 16, 2024

[LMAO]

A whole lotta hyperbole goin' on ...

Perhaps some

But there’s no question that JD Vance is not a limited government, free market, kind of guy

He may not be exactly the same as an Elizabeth Warren or a Bernie Sanders. But he isn’t that far away from them, either

But there’s no doubt that we are going to see a significant expansion of government regardless who wins this November. And we’re also going to see more government intervention and involvement in the economy

[LMAO]

Vance did well in his debates with Tim Ryan, and he is a thoughtful person capable of defending unusual positions.  What is worrisome is GOP's abandonment of sound fiscal policy while a debt crisis lurks in the background.  Trump escaped the blame for heavy inflation because Biden won the election, but his luck is going to run out eventually.  I just don't see JD Vance steering him in the right direction.

If everything remains as it does today with inflation, the economy, and the stock market in Nov and Biden loses,  and let’s say for example, the negative effects from Trump’s new round of tariffs are greater than they were when he was president the first time, or inflation spikes again under his watch, his supporters are going to have a real tough time blaming the Biden administration.


The Democrats will use that against him. That’s what they did with George Bush in 2008 and Donald Trump in 2020. It would be impossible for a Republican to get elected in 2028

Over the years as I’ve watched different countries liberalize their economies one of the first things they do is lift trade restrictions. Economies that have much tighter restrictions on trade are not as prosperous as those with free trade.

[roamer_1]

The Republican Party has gone from the TParty to embracing Democratic Socialism in just under 20 years

It_is_SHOCKING.

[bilo]

Vance did well in his debates with Tim Ryan, and he is a thoughtful person capable of defending unusual positions.  What is worrisome is GOP's abandonment of sound fiscal policy while a debt crisis lurks in the background.  Trump escaped the blame for heavy inflation because Biden won the election, but his luck is going to run out eventually.  I just don't see JD Vance steering him in the right direction.

I do have a lot of confidence in both Trump and Vance when we discuss economic policy. They both have real life experience and are very intelligent.

The debt problem is a big concern, but first they have to get elected so not going into details on it doesn't bother me. One suggestion I heard about the debt falls in line with raising tariffs and expanding energy production. The idea I heard was open ANWAR and place a royalty on every barrel produce with the stipulation that the monies can only be used to pay down the debt, not the interest but only the principal. I think it's an interesting solution.

[Hoodat]

I want a team that wins and can actually make some changes. The road we've been going down only leads to our collapse.

I want a team that recognizes the number one threat America faces today and is willing to address it.  There is one issue that stands out above all others - an issue that is the direct or indirect cause of all others.  If this one issue is addressed, dozens upon dozens of other issues go away, including Russia, Iran, inflation, illegal immigration, education costs, health care costs, etc.  Unfortunately, it is an issue that both Trump and Vance are not willing to tackle.

[Hoodat]

I do have a lot of confidence in both Trump and Vance when we discuss economic policy. They both have real life experience and are very intelligent.

So they both understand that printing up $2 trillion in new money each year just to fund government is an extremely detrimental economic policy?

[roamer_1]

I do have a lot of confidence in both Trump and Vance when we discuss economic policy. They both have real life experience and are very intelligent.

Magical thinking. The guy is on the record already spending more money than any other administration in history - And that by a huge margin. More than Democrats.

I will bet he will spend significantly more this time. And you (y'all) will vote for MORE.
Because principles - Real and abiding true things have been utterly cast in the street and trampled underfoot.

But that's alright. The bill will come due. It always does.

[jmyrlefuller]

Does he barely get to be called Gen X?  Or barely what we used to call Gen Y?

He's a hair older than me, so that would be the "Xennials," those born from 80-85.

I'm of the persuasion that the millennials start at 1986, since that means they came out of college right as the recession hit, fundamentally altering their life path forever.

[LMAO]

The debt problem is a big concern, but first they have to get elected so not going into details on it doesn't bother me. One suggestion I heard about the debt falls in line with raising tariffs and expanding energy production. The idea I heard was open ANWAR and place a royalty on every barrel produce with the stipulation that the monies can only be used to pay down the debt, not the interest but only the principal. I think it's an interesting solution.

If that’s the Trump/Vance solution for the debt, then we’re screwed.

For one oil prices are volatile. And a cost more to drill up in the Arctic. And  you can’t pay down the debt with tariffs because The last time Trump enacted tariffs we had to bail out  the farmers


Name one benefit to the economy the first time  Trump enacted his trade policy. How did Trump’s tariffs from the last time benefit American businesses and American consumers? I will  give you the answer…. it didn’t. In fact, it ended up costing the economy

 The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results

But let’s say we drilled in Anwar and every oil company ran up there  ready to drill  oil and didn’t care how much it cost.

I have seen  for everything up to including royalties, federal and state tax as high as $400 billion. We have a $34 trillion deficit. That’s not even a drop in the bucket