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« Reply #125 on: July 16, 2024, 08:35:06 am »
Free markets and free trade lift more people out of poverty than any type of central planning or protectionism

Somehow, we’ve gotten the idea in this country that everything should be equal. Some think because free markets and free trade doesn’t bring about 100% equalization in the economy , well, then that means they don’t work. Of course, there are jobs that do get negatively impacted by free trade. But more people and businesses are harmed with protectionist trade policies.

The Americans steel industry may reap some benefits from protectionism. But everybody else is harmed by them

It’s the same with free markets. Not everybody does well in a free market economy. But more people than not benefit


And that’s why, like socialism, MAGAism/populism doesn’t work


Things changed for the better for the Swedish people when they abandoned their socialism and you will see the same thing over time for the people of Argentina


Hopefully the same thing will happen one day to the people of Cuba and Venezuela, and God willing, the poor people of North Korea


Don't forget about the people in China as well.
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« Reply #127 on: July 16, 2024, 08:40:46 am »
You reek of desperation.

Go peddle your bullshit to somebody else, troll.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #129 on: July 16, 2024, 08:42:20 am »
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« Reply #130 on: July 16, 2024, 09:36:30 am »
Vance: I Criticized Trump Before, Bought Media ‘Lies’, But ‘He Changed My Mind’ — Harris Bashed Biden More Recently

Ian Hanchett 16 Jul 2024

On Monday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Hannity,” Republican vice presidential candidate Sen. JD Vance (R-OH) acknowledged that he criticized his running mate, former President Donald Trump before, but “President Trump was a great President and he changed my mind.” And “I bought into the media’s lies and distortions,” Vance also stated that it’s “a good thing when you see somebody, you were wrong about him, you ought to admit the mistake and admit you were wrong.”

Vance said, [relevant remarks begin around 5:05] “I don’t hide from that. I was certainly skeptical of Donald Trump in 2016, but President Trump was a great President and he changed my mind. I think he changed the minds of a lot of Americans, because, again, he delivered that peace and prosperity. If you go back to what I thought in 2016 — another thing that was going on, Sean, is, I bought into the media’s lies and distortions, I bought into this idea that, somehow, he was going to be so different, a terrible threat to democracy. It was a joke. Joe Biden is the one who’s trying to throw his political opposition in jail. Joe Biden is the one who’s trying to undermine American law and order. President Trump did a really good job. And I actually think it’s a good thing when you see somebody, you were wrong about him, you ought to admit the mistake and admit you were wrong.”

He added, “Something that really changed for me and I think for a lot of Americans is, we saw the results of the Trump presidency compared to the obsessive, deranged media reaction in 2019 and 2020.”

Vance also pointed out that Vice President Kamala Harris attacked President Joe Biden during debates in the 2020 cycle, while his criticisms of Trump were years ago.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/07/16/vance-i-criticized-trump-before-bought-media-lies-but-he-changed-my-mind/
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #131 on: July 16, 2024, 09:48:47 am »
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Van Jones: ‘Scary Dude’ J.D. Vance Will Divide Country, Make Project 2025 Happen

CNN contributor Van Jones said Monday on the network’s coverage of the Republican National Convention that former President Donald Trump’s vice-presidential pick, Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH), is a “scary dude” who will advance the Project 2025 agenda from the Heritage Foundation.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/07/15/van-jones-scary-dude-j-d-vance-will-divide-country-make-project-2025-happen/

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MSNBC’s Maddow: J.D. Vance Is a ‘Radical’ Who ‘Wants a National Abortion Ban’

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow said on the network’s coverage of the Republican National Convention that former President Donald Trump’s vice-presidential pick, Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH), is “radical.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/07/15/msnbcs-maddow-j-d-vance-is-radical-who-wants-a-national-abortion-ban/
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« Reply #132 on: July 16, 2024, 10:15:43 am »
The teamsters are still thugs.
Besides the concept of needing a union is outdated.
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« Reply #133 on: July 16, 2024, 10:16:47 am »
I love the pick!

All you have to do is look and see who hates him to see he's the right guy.

Also, bringing in a millenial is great. We need a youth movement within the party.

I can't wait to see the VP debate.

Trump didn't bring in someone from the rino crowd. He brought in someone who can carry the America First movement forward in 4 years.

Great Pick!
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« Reply #134 on: July 16, 2024, 10:18:24 am »
I have no doubt that JD Vance is a very decent man who served this country and appears to be a good husband and father


But we are definitely going to see a movement away from free and open economy to a more planned and controlled one in the next four years. That will have real ramifications.

Trade barriers will replace free trade

Bailouts will replace market fundamentals

Instead of the market weeding out winners and losers, Government is going to play a more prominent role in that decision


The only difference between the two camps this fall is the degree of each happening. Biden will tend the support more regulations on business than Trump does. But as we saw during Trump’s first term, that  doesn’t overcome other barriers
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« Reply #135 on: July 16, 2024, 10:19:08 am »
I love the pick!

All you have to do is look and see who hates him to see he's the right guy.

Also, bringing in a millenial is great. We need a youth movement within the party.

I can't wait to see the VP debate.

Trump didn't bring in someone from the rino crowd. He brought in someone who can carry the America First movement forward in 4 years.

Great Pick!


So his political positions don’t matter to you? As long as the left doesn’t like him, that’s good enough?
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« Reply #136 on: July 16, 2024, 10:26:37 am »
Trump camp rips Biden campaign's immediate attacks on Vance after VP selection: 'Poor taste'
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MILWAUKEE — The Trump campaign is pushing back after President Biden immediately took to social media to blast Trump’s newly chosen candidate for vice president, Ohio Sen. JD Vance.

Shortly after Vance was announced as Trump’s candidate, the Biden campaign posted on X along with a fundraising link, "Here’s the deal about J.D. Vance. He talks a big game about working people. But now, he and Trump want to raise taxes on middle-class families while pushing more tax cuts for the rich."

Trump 2024 Deputy Communications Director Caroline Sunshine took issue with that attack in an interview with Fox News Digital on Tuesday.

"I think that response, given the events that have transpired in this country where President Trump had an assassination attempt on his life, for the sitting U.S. president to be calling for anything other than unity, but instead using this opportunity to attack President Trump's new vice presidential nominee, go after him on policy, it seems really out of touch, really in poor taste," Sunshine said.

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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #137 on: July 16, 2024, 10:33:40 am »
It's true



https://twitter.com/ethereal712/status/1813180958574526603


He's an economic populist, probably more so than Trump.  That is not the same as being a conservative.

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« Reply #138 on: July 16, 2024, 10:42:08 am »
So his political positions don’t matter to you? As long as the left doesn’t like him, that’s good enough?
That isn't what he said.
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« Reply #139 on: July 16, 2024, 10:44:04 am »
Totally unrelated to any issues brought up, but does anyone know when was the last time we had a President or Vice President with a beard?
Barack Obama. His beard is named Michelle.
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« Reply #140 on: July 16, 2024, 10:50:19 am »
Barack Obama. His beard is named Michelle.

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« Reply #141 on: July 16, 2024, 11:00:46 am »
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As an aside from me, obviously Vance's recent comments on the so-called "abortion pill" were disappointing. But Baer comes highly respected by those I highly respect. So here's hoping that was an uncommon misstep, because this is a very strong and encouraging endorsement.
4:24 PM · Jul 15, 2024
Steve may need to do a little research on the "abortion pill."
This writer, a devout Catholic, nearly died from an ectopic pregnancy. She may have a pretty good idea what she's talking about:

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This is a legitimate question, not a rhetorical one: you can’t actually outlaw mifepristone, right? Because it’s actually the most common and safest method of miscarriage care? Like, yes, it’s used for abortions, but it seems like it’s got other major uses?
I’m genuinely curious here.
10:00 AM · Jul 16, 2024

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Like, I think you’ll find a lot of even very Catholic women have taken mifepristone, and not because they’ve had abortions.
10:09 AM · Jul 16, 2024

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But when you have a miscarriage, you get it as a prescription, too. Just saying “you can’t get it at a pharmacy” will put women in very risky situations. There’s no thought behind this at all. If you don’t mean ban, don’t say ban, and definitely don’t use it as a measure for being pro-life.
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« Reply #142 on: July 16, 2024, 11:08:05 am »
He's an economic populist, probably more so than Trump.  That is not the same as being a conservative.

The Trump/Vance platform may not be a carbon copy of Mao’s Great Leap Forward, but they do favor more government activism in the economy

With Trump’s history of making threats against any Republicans that don’t go along with his vision, and the pick of JD Vance, nothing will temper Trump’s worse impulses. Who will tell Trump that you can’t print money and hand out  checks to favored groups without creating dependency and risking inflation, for example?

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« Reply #143 on: July 16, 2024, 11:25:55 am »
The Trump/Vance platform may not be a carbon copy of Mao’s Great Leap Forward, but they do favor more government activism in the economy

With Trump’s history of making threats against any Republicans that don’t go along with his vision, and the pick of JD Vance, nothing will temper Trump’s worse impulses. Who will tell Trump that you can’t print money and hand out  checks to favored groups without creating dependency and risking inflation, for example?


It was Trump's spending policies that started this inflation problem.
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« Reply #144 on: July 16, 2024, 11:26:11 am »
The Trump/Vance platform may not be a carbon copy of Mao’s Great Leap Forward, but they do favor more government activism in the economy

I watched the teamster boss speech last night, and some of it was too radical for the democrat convention.  Get ready for another round of heavy inflation.

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« Reply #145 on: July 16, 2024, 11:29:53 am »
Gunowners of America say Vance has a perfect record voting on the Second Amendment.

https://twitter.com/GunOwners/status/1812950313470656811
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« Reply #146 on: July 16, 2024, 11:35:16 am »

It was Trump's spending policies that started this inflation problem.

If you want to get real technical, it can probably be traced back to the Obama years after the great recession.

Inflation is a lagging economic indicator. The idea that it started under Biden is simply not true. It reared itself under Biden and Biden helped fuel it
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« Reply #147 on: July 16, 2024, 11:52:51 am »
Just a reminder, populism is not conservatism.



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« Reply #149 on: July 16, 2024, 01:00:24 pm »
Gunowners of America say Vance has a perfect record voting on the Second Amendment.

https://twitter.com/GunOwners/status/1812950313470656811

Well, this is definitely a positive.