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« Reply #175 on: July 16, 2024, 04:57:10 pm »
I'm not a one issue voter.  No one candidate is going to be completely in sync with me. But if it were, it might be the projection of confidence and power to the rest of the world.

We darn sure don't have that today with Biden/Kamala.

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« Reply #176 on: July 16, 2024, 05:09:47 pm »
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« Reply #177 on: July 16, 2024, 05:16:01 pm »
I'm not a one issue voter.  No one candidate is going to be completely in sync with me. But if it were, it might be the projection of confidence and power to the rest of the world.

We darn sure don't have that today with Biden/Kamala.


I’m not a single issue voter eother. There’s always gonna be some things I disagree with any candidate on.


But I can’t recall in  my lifetime a more economic left wing ticket on the Republican side. I have this feeling we’re about to put a mix of Hoover and George McGovern in the White House. I can’t recall ever hearing Biden or Harris supporting currency devaluation, at least publicly
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« Reply #178 on: July 16, 2024, 05:26:26 pm »
   Of all the people floated by the Trump org and the LSM~Stefanik, Carson, Burgum, Rubio, Tulsi, Sarah Huckabee, Scott, Ramaswamy and Noem, I think he did as best that be expected of him, since DeSantis refused to be his VP.
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« Reply #179 on: July 16, 2024, 05:27:02 pm »

I’m not a single issue voter eother. There’s always gonna be some things I disagree with any candidate on.


But I can’t recall in  my lifetime a more economic left wing ticket on the Republican side. I have this feeling we’re about to put a mix of Hoover and George McGovern in the White House. I can’t recall ever hearing Biden or Harris supporting currency devaluation, at least publicly



I understand you and totally agree. We are in an economic crisis. The tragedy is that we really don't have candidates on either side that are going to take the steps needed to rectify the situation. Until we hit rock bottom, we won't get a Coolidge...if then. I'd like that dude in Argentina. But no luck.

So I'll just try to focus on some of the positives.

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« Reply #180 on: July 16, 2024, 05:29:49 pm »


I understand you and totally agree. We are in an economic crisis. The tragedy is that we really don't have candidates on either side that are going to take the steps needed to rectify the situation. Until we hit rock bottom, we won't get a Coolidge...if then. I'd like that dude in Argentina. But no luck.

So I'll just try to focus on some of the positives.

Calvin Coolidge is my favorite president and, not that I’m gay, but I am in love with that Argentina president, Javier Milei


But we shouldn’t have to wait until we have an economic and fiscal crisis before electing people such as Coolidge. Because if it happens under Donald Trump‘s watch, we could end up with a very progressive Democrat as President follow him
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« Reply #181 on: July 16, 2024, 05:37:27 pm »
   Of all the people floated by the Trump org and the LSM~Stefanik, Carson, Burgum, Rubio, Tulsi, Sarah Huckabee, Scott, Ramaswamy and Noem, I think he did as best that be expected of him, since DeSantis refused to be his VP.

Returning Virginia to the GOP column and putting Winsome Sears in the Governor's mansion would have been nice.
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« Reply #182 on: July 16, 2024, 05:38:24 pm »
not that I’m gay, but I am in love with that Argentina president, Javier Milei

I want to have Javier Milei's baby.
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« Reply #183 on: July 16, 2024, 05:46:39 pm »
   Of all the people floated by the Trump org and the LSM~Stefanik, Carson, Burgum, Rubio, Tulsi, Sarah Huckabee, Scott, Ramaswamy and Noem, I think he did as best that be expected of him, since DeSantis refused to be his VP.
I thought he couldn't go with a fellow Floridian, which would leave out both DeSantis and Rubio.  :shrug:
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #185 on: July 16, 2024, 06:04:18 pm »
I know very little about JD and only what I briefly read yesterday about his wife being friends with Ramsy which I find troubling.

However, that has zero impact on my voting for Trump. Why do you think JD will lose Trump votes???

Again, they tried to take Trump out for his competency not his incompetency.  I have no problem casting a vote for Trump now.  JD or no JD.


Better hope there is no crisis like the first time Trump was President. He failed big time!
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #186 on: July 16, 2024, 06:32:54 pm »
Calvin Coolidge is my favorite president and, not that I’m gay, but I am in love with that Argentina president, Javier Milei


But we shouldn’t have to wait until we have an economic and fiscal crisis before electing people such as Coolidge. Because if it happens under Donald Trump‘s watch, we could end up with a very progressive Democrat as President follow him


You know how well Trump can handle a crisis.
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« Reply #187 on: July 16, 2024, 06:43:02 pm »
Returning Virginia to the GOP column and putting Winsome Sears in the Governor's mansion would have been nice.
Yep, as I had thought Youngkin to be the one
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« Reply #188 on: July 16, 2024, 09:11:49 pm »
Bernie Sanders

The guy who has a history of vocalizing support for brutal Communist regimes. Nice

It wouldn’t surprise me if sometime during the convention we hear support for universal healthcare and a $30 minimum wage

Called it

https://reason.com/2024/06/14/j-d-vances-incoherent-argument-for-higher-minimum-wages/


And. 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/16/the-trump-vance-ticket-is-a-repudiation-of-free-market-conservatism-00168578#:~:text=Few%20Republicans%20have%20been%20more,aggressive%20antitrust%20chief%2C%20Lina%20Khan.

Few Republicans have been more vocally critical of the party's modern economic conventions than Vance, who has embraced not just tariffs, but also policies like a higher minimum wage



Watch how quickly MAGA’s  start supporting minimum wage hikes :silly: :silly:

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« Reply #189 on: July 16, 2024, 09:20:22 pm »
Called it

https://reason.com/2024/06/14/j-d-vances-incoherent-argument-for-higher-minimum-wages/


And. 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/16/the-trump-vance-ticket-is-a-repudiation-of-free-market-conservatism-00168578#:~:text=Few%20Republicans%20have%20been%20more,aggressive%20antitrust%20chief%2C%20Lina%20Khan.

Few Republicans have been more vocally critical of the party's modern economic conventions than Vance, who has embraced not just tariffs, but also policies like a higher minimum wage


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The interview above (Reason) of JD Vance is economic death.

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« Reply #190 on: July 16, 2024, 09:37:43 pm »
Yep, as I had thought Youngkin to be the one
Youngkin would be good, but I suspect they saw Vance as more appealing to younger voters (millennials, or whatever Vance's generation are called).
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« Reply #191 on: July 16, 2024, 09:39:16 pm »
And here he is on Obama care

But he’s also expressed opposition to completely repealing ObamaCare, has supported Medicare drug price negotiation,


https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4775098-vance-healthcare-positions/


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« Reply #192 on: July 16, 2024, 09:41:58 pm »
Trump-Vance Administration Could Herald New Era for Dollar

Donald J. Trump’s selection of Ohio Senator J.D. Vance to be his vice-presidential nominee pairs him with a kindred spirit on trade, taxes and a tough stance on China. But it is their shared affinity for a weak dollar that could have the most sweeping implications for the United States and the global economy.

In most cases, Mr. Trump likes his policies to be “strong,” but when it comes to the value of the dollar, he has long expressed a different view. Its strength, he has argued, has made it harder for American manufacturers to sell their products abroad to buyers that use weaker currencies. That’s because their money is worth so much less than the dollars that they need to make those purchases.

“As your president, one would think that I would be thrilled with our very strong dollar,” Mr. Trump said in 2019, explaining that U.S. companies like Caterpillar and Boeing were struggling to compete. “I am not!”

The dollar has been the world’s dominant currency since World War II, and central banks hold about 60 percent of their foreign exchange reserves in dollars, according to the Congressional Research Service.

The United States has maintained a “strong dollar” policy since the 1990s, when Robert E. Rubin, the Treasury secretary at the time, declared that he did not view it as a threat to the ability of American business to compete abroad. The United States avoids taking measures to steer the strength of the dollar, and Treasury secretaries tend to argue that currency values should be determined by market forces. When countries, such as China, have acted to weaken their currencies, the U.S. has shamed them as currency manipulators.

It is not clear how Mr. Trump would go about weakening the dollar. His Treasury Department could try to sell dollars to buy foreign currency or try to persuade the Federal Reserve to just print more dollars.

A concerted shift in policy could have reverberations for international commerce of all kinds. The depreciation of the dollar, along with Mr. Trump’s plan to increase tariffs on imports, could also reignite inflation when price increases are finally easing.

“Depreciation would add to inflation,” said Mark Sobel, a former longtime Treasury Department official who is now the U.S. chairman of the Official Monetary and Financial Institutions Forum. “So would tariff hikes. Plus, a highly expansionary fiscal policy would add to demand pressures.”.............

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/16/us/politics/trump-vance-us-dollar.html

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« Reply #193 on: July 16, 2024, 09:50:09 pm »
It takes out of this world ineptness and stupidity to pursue  policies that will put further cost pressures on American consumers and businesses when they’re all already dealing Government caused inflation


I think we’re gonna find that, as we get closer to the election and people start paying more attention and these issues come front and center to the American voter, JD Vance may end up hurting Trump more than helping.

We’ll see
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« Reply #194 on: July 16, 2024, 09:54:51 pm »
It takes out of this world ineptness and stupidity to pursue  policies that will put further cost pressures on American consumers and businesses when they’re all already dealing Government caused inflation

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« Reply #195 on: July 16, 2024, 10:00:44 pm »
"As you ramble on through life, brother...whatever be your goal
Keep you eye upon the doughnut and not upon the hole!!"


Ok I have no idea what that means but whatever


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« Reply #196 on: July 16, 2024, 10:11:24 pm »
   Of all the people floated by the Trump org and the LSM~Stefanik, Carson, Burgum, Rubio, Tulsi, Sarah Huckabee, Scott, Ramaswamy and Noem, I think he did as best that be expected of him, since DeSantis refused to be his VP.

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« Reply #197 on: July 16, 2024, 10:11:25 pm »
Youngkin would be good, but I suspect they saw Vance as more appealing to younger voters (millennials, or whatever Vance's generation are called).

Does he barely get to be called Gen X?  Or barely what we used to call Gen Y?
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« Reply #198 on: July 16, 2024, 10:17:20 pm »
Does he barely get to be called Gen X?  Or barely what we used to call Gen Y?
I can't keep up with it.
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« Reply #199 on: July 16, 2024, 10:22:09 pm »
It takes out of this world ineptness and stupidity to pursue  policies that will put further cost pressures on American consumers and businesses when they’re all already dealing Government caused inflation


I think we’re gonna find that, as we get closer to the election and people start paying more attention and these issues come front and center to the American voter, JD Vance may end up hurting Trump more than helping.

We’ll see

You have a valid point but I am not so sure he's going to be a deal breaker for Trump's re-election. Certainly  not enough for people to vote for Biden.

Yes we shall see.  So far, as I continue to read about JD I am not impressed with him in the least. Sigh.