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« Reply #1550 on: September 19, 2025, 01:28:50 am »
This argument is so damned funny.

The decision to pull Kimmel’s show off the air was made by Rob Iger and Disney Sr. Execs. Hardly MAGA.

In essence, we are watching the Left raging against actions by Leftists.

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They’re busy trying to gaslight Trump and MAGA to change the topic away from the reaction to Charlie’s murder.

Let’s not let them do that.


Do people on this forum seek out sources of information beyond what is stamped and approved by the Trump administration?


They dumped Jimmy Kimmel under pressure from Trump’s FCC chairman. They’re even threatening to go after others


When Trump said he could shoot someone on fifth Avenue and still keep his supporters, he was not kidding.

I swear to God that if Trump proposed gun control, a certain percentage of people on his forum, would happily turn in their guns because their reasoning  would be if Trump takes my guns, the Democrats can’t


And to add insult to injury, we’re not even getting a booming economy out of this presidency. I’m still waiting for that crow  I was told I was gonna be eating by mid September when I was critical of what Trump’s tariffs would do to the economy

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« Reply #1551 on: September 19, 2025, 02:03:38 am »

Do people on this forum seek out sources of information beyond what is stamped and approved by the Trump administration?

They dumped Jimmy Kimmel under pressure from Trump’s FCC chairman. They’re even threatening to go after others

When Trump said he could shoot someone on fifth Avenue and still keep his supporters, he was not kidding.

I swear to God that if Trump proposed gun control, a certain percentage of people on his forum, would happily turn in their guns because their reasoning  would be if Trump takes my guns, the Democrats can’t


And to add insult to injury, we’re not even getting a booming economy out of this presidency. I’m still waiting for that crow  I was told I was gonna be eating by mid September when I was critical of what Trump’s tariffs would do to the economy

Hmmm... do you check anything other than HuffPost?

Broadcast networks, under FCC licensing, cannot knowingly air false reports that cause public harm (per the broadcast hoax rule). They also risk losing their license if they deliberately distort news. On top of FCC enforcement, they face civil lawsuits for defamation if false reports damage reputations. (Please fact check me at will).

So basically, the timeline went like this...

Jimmy Kimmel deliberately distorted the news, and quite possibly engaged in what SCOTUS has defined as "actual malice" (New York Times Co vs. Sullivan).

The FCC threatened to take action on Kimmel's dialogue as a violation of The Communications Act of 1934 because ("NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW") of Kimmel's "reckless disregard" for the truth -- the shooter had confessed to several people, text communications which clearly determined the shooter's guilt, etc. -- and those things had been widely reported long before airtime.

Kimmel's "joke" was about to cost people millions (if not billions) of dollars, and they dumped him like a hot potato.

Beautifully organic.

My economy is booming. Not sure what you see wrong with your economy, but that would probably boil down to some inadequate personal financial decisions. Just my opinion. happy77

I would like to see gas prices go down.

We could probably get those down over $1/gallon if government just stopped taxing the Shiite out of it.
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« Reply #1552 on: September 19, 2025, 03:20:10 am »

Do people on this forum seek out sources of information beyond what is stamped and approved by the Trump administration?


They dumped Jimmy Kimmel under pressure from Trump’s FCC chairman. They’re even threatening to go after others


When Trump said he could shoot someone on fifth Avenue and still keep his supporters, he was not kidding.

I swear to God that if Trump proposed gun control, a certain percentage of people on his forum, would happily turn in their guns because their reasoning  would be if Trump takes my guns, the Democrats can’t


And to add insult to injury, we’re not even getting a booming economy out of this presidency. I’m still waiting for that crow  I was told I was gonna be eating by mid September when I was critical of what Trump’s tariffs would do to the economy
The difference between Trump and Biden/Obama is this. Kimmel lied. The only person on the Right in similar straits was Alex Jones. The left got him. Similar deal, only Jones had postulated in his own way that the Sandy Hook event was staged and not a killing. So the lawyers who dragged him out in court made one (a killing).

If that could happen to Alex Jones, it could happen to ABC. Imagine a MAGA class action suit for defamation, etc., which is what ate a chunk out of Alex Jones. The top people at ABC did. They canned Kimmel when he refused to walk it back. They felt they had no choice.

Enough with blaming Trump and acting like this is a one-off and something new.
The FCC will uphold the law, and against anyone out of line. If they don't the trial lawyers will.

Sheesh!

(And no, I will have my guns as long as I live, and have only made 60K more this year than last year, and prices for fuel and many other things have dropped here.)
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1553 on: September 19, 2025, 07:08:50 am »
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We’ve all made jokes at Jimmy Kimmel’s expense. But Mr. Kimmel is a fellow artist, and I am in fact heartbroken to see the way he has been treated. I believe he is, in his heart of hearts, a good and decent fellow, devoid of malice and hate.

Just kidding, Jimbo. Eat shit.

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« Reply #1554 on: September 19, 2025, 07:14:42 am »
Had me going there for a minute

Same here
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« Reply #1555 on: September 19, 2025, 10:06:12 am »
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« Reply #1556 on: September 19, 2025, 10:25:14 am »
This argument is so damned funny.

The decision to pull Kimmel’s show off the air was made by Rob Iger and Disney Sr. Execs. Hardly MAGA.

In essence, we are watching the Left raging against actions by Leftists.

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They’re busy trying to gaslight Trump and MAGA to change the topic away from the reaction to Charlie’s murder.

Let’s not let them do that.

They laughed at Charlie's murder then danced upon his grave.  I'll be shoving that down their throats for years to come.  We're just getting started. 

Before last Wednesday, they just had to be defeated, now they have to be humiliated and destroyed....
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« Reply #1557 on: September 19, 2025, 11:09:55 am »
They laughed at Charlie's murder then danced upon his grave.  I'll be shoving that down their throats for years to come.  We're just getting started. 

Before last Wednesday, they just had to be defeated, now they have to be humiliated and destroyed....

Well said.

Trump declaring Antifa to be a terrorist organization I think has been overlooked in terms of what this means for the Democrats and their supporters.

It means that the FBI and CIA can now legally dig into who has been funding these terrorists over the past decade (Soros, Gates, etc.) and then those people can expect to be sanctioned and when possible extradited to the US to face prosecution.

Or they may face extreme sanction8888madkitty

In any case, these people who fund Antifa and other Democrat orbiting groups will be shut down. And that shuts down yet more streams of funding into the Democrats.
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« Reply #1558 on: September 19, 2025, 11:16:44 am »
They laughed at Charlie's murder then danced upon his grave.  I'll be shoving that down their throats for years to come.  We're just getting started. 

Before last Wednesday, they just had to be defeated, now they have to be humiliated and destroyed....

These guys have become so desperate in their ideological cultism that they can't read the room. They are going to have a revolution, are going to overthrow the govt, are going to establish a dictatorship and eradicate their enemies by any means necessary, and they can't grasp that the country is moving in the opposite directions.

They've made themselves traitors and terrorists, and I have no desire to give any more quarter to them. It's time to just bulldoze over them by any legal means necessary.
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« Reply #1559 on: September 19, 2025, 11:56:25 am »
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« Reply #1560 on: September 19, 2025, 11:58:39 am »
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« Reply #1561 on: September 19, 2025, 12:04:42 pm »
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We’ve all made jokes at Jimmy Kimmel’s expense. But Mr. Kimmel is a fellow artist, and I am in fact heartbroken to see the way he has been treated. I believe he is, in his heart of hearts, a good and decent fellow, devoid of malice and hate.

Just kidding, Jimbo. Eat shit.



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« Reply #1562 on: September 19, 2025, 12:06:07 pm »

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I can't decide if he looks like a young Beto O'Rourke or a young Andy Beshear.

I'm leaning towards Andy.

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« Reply #1563 on: September 19, 2025, 01:56:18 pm »
Even assassins need to keep up their strength.  *****rollingeyes*****
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« Reply #1564 on: September 19, 2025, 03:30:03 pm »

Do people on this forum seek out sources of information beyond what is stamped and approved by the Trump administration?


They dumped Jimmy Kimmel under pressure from Trump’s FCC chairman. They’re even threatening to go after others


When Trump said he could shoot someone on fifth Avenue and still keep his supporters, he was not kidding.

I swear to God that if Trump proposed gun control, a certain percentage of people on his forum, would happily turn in their guns because their reasoning  would be if Trump takes my guns, the Democrats can’t


And to add insult to injury, we’re not even getting a booming economy out of this presidency. I’m still waiting for that crow  I was told I was gonna be eating by mid September when I was critical of what Trump’s tariffs would do to the economy
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« Reply #1565 on: September 19, 2025, 03:44:40 pm »
Perhaps you are on the wrong site.

Or did you not understand this is a Conservative site?

Plenty of other sites that will agree with your tendencies without argument.

And @LMAO is one of the most Conservative hereon.
Nothing he said was against Conservatism.

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« Reply #1566 on: September 19, 2025, 03:58:33 pm »
And @LMAO is one of the most Conservative hereon.
Nothing he said was against Conservatism.

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« Reply #1567 on: September 19, 2025, 04:24:52 pm »
And @LMAO is one of the most Conservative hereon.
Nothing he said was against Conservatism.

Bovine scat!

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They dumped Jimmy Kimmel under pressure from Trump’s FCC chairman.

A vicious LIE by @LMAO on this very same thread.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=568426.msg3219005#msg3219005

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« Reply #1568 on: September 19, 2025, 04:31:46 pm »
I can't decide if he looks like a young Beto O'Rourke or a young Andy Beshear.

I'm leaning towards Andy.

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« Reply #1569 on: September 19, 2025, 04:38:13 pm »




They dumped Jimmy Kimmel under pressure from Trump’s FCC chairman. They’re even threatening to go after others


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I think you are becoming insane.....

Average Kimmel ratings in 2015-  2.4M viewers
Average Kimmel ratings in 2025-  1.6M viewers

Just more proof you don't know jack shit about economics, and how business works in the grand scheme of corporate return on capital employed, and good sound business practice.  He was basically canned for hemorraging viewers and sponsors.





And to add insult to injury, we’re not even getting a booming economy out of this presidency. I’m still waiting for that crow  I was told I was gonna be eating by mid September when I was critical of what Trump’s tariffs would do to the economy

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Here is your f'n crow......

Original thread started on April 5, 2025

DJIA then- (April 7, 2025) when tariffs were announced- 36, 661.  DJIA today- 46,315  Up 26.3%
NASDAQ "  "   "  ""              "        "       "         "            15,053.   NASDAQ today- 22,631. Up 50.3%

Consumer Sentiment Numbers-

Mar 2025- 57.0
Apr 2025 - 57.2
May 2025- 52.2
Jun- 2025- 60.7
Jul- 2025-  61.7

CPI-   2.9% August 2025, 0-2.9&% throughout 6 months. period;  Where is the runaway inflation you kept spewing about? 

BLS Unemployment rate when tariff plan announced 4.2%, Rate today 4.2%

Stop already wait the lies and unadulterated bullshit.
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« Reply #1570 on: September 19, 2025, 04:39:24 pm »
Bovine scat!

A vicious LIE by @LMAO on this very same thread.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=568426.msg3219005#msg3219005



PROVE it a lie @Bigun . Tumpy has declared he is going after the media, and is backing it up with suits.

Now, I ain't saying that the FCC chair gave em a call - Dunno, one way or the other. But the pressure is there anyway -That much is public, for sure.

And WTH does any of that have to do with Conservatism?

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« Reply #1571 on: September 19, 2025, 04:40:54 pm »
And @LMAO is one of the most Conservative hereon.
Nothing he said was against Conservatism.

And has just been served his portion if crow.,  Where is this financial collapse he kept spewing 6 months ago?  Do I need to go back and cut paste every one of his disastrous predictions? Rather not but sometimes those need to be kept to account for their comments.
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« Reply #1572 on: September 19, 2025, 04:48:28 pm »
PROVE it a lie @Bigun . Tumpy has declared he is going after the media, and is backing it up with suits.

Now, I ain't saying that the FCC chair gave em a call - Dunno, one way or the other. But the pressure is there anyway -That much is public, for sure.

And WTH does any of that have to do with Conservatism?

There are MANY posts on this tread proving the LIE already @roamer_1 I'm not going to make a redundant post here. Once again, your personal hatred of Trump prevents you from seeing the bare truth of that.
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« Reply #1573 on: September 19, 2025, 04:49:07 pm »
And has just been served his portion if crow.,  Where is this financial collapse he kept spewing 6 months ago?  Do I need to go back and cut paste every one of his disastrous predictions? Rather not but sometimes those need to be kept to account for their comments.

Big whoop. You think yet another $5T in debt ain't a disaster? How many of them points on the DOW you're braggin on are dollars stretching?

Keep on printing. That'll fix it.  *****rollingeyes*****

And @LMAO 's point stands - In my own field, the used car market is tight and growing tighter. Repair in computer, auto, and smalls: parts are drying up in both automotive and computer. Smalls have always sucked that way.

Slapping tariffs on the parts make em go somewhere else. And when the parts we make things from are all over there... well that math ain't that hard.

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« Reply #1574 on: September 19, 2025, 04:56:35 pm »
There are MANY posts on this tread proving the LIE already @roamer_1 I'm not going to make a redundant post here. Once again, your personal hatred of Trump prevents you from seeing the bare truth of that.

NOTHING ON THIS THREAD proves a damn thing. It's all a bunch of old men harrumphing and farting in their chairs (ETA: Including me).

You cannot prove that calls were or weren't made.
You cannot prove that statements by media companies aren't loaded for public perception, when the truth of it may be quite different.

It's ALL weighted for public perception, even the cattle calls from BiteFart and the like. So actual proof any which way is few and far between.
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« Reply #1575 on: September 19, 2025, 05:02:14 pm »
Big whoop. You think yet another $5T in debt ain't a disaster? How many of them points on the DOW you're braggin on are dollars stretching?

Keep on printing. That'll fix it.  *****rollingeyes*****

And @LMAO 's point stands - In my own field, the used car market is tight and growing tighter. Repair in computer, auto, and smalls: parts are drying up in both automotive and computer. Smalls have always sucked that way.

Slapping tariffs on the parts make em go somewhere else. And when the parts we make things from are all over there... well that math ain't that hard.

You will never find anything in my posting history, where I have said that tariffs are a long term or a permanent solution.  The great Calvin Coolidge was very clear and consise that the tactic and strategy is just that.  A ways and  means to adjust the slate to insure fair trade. 

This nation for decades has bent over and took it from international trading partners, and the end result is that post World War II, our industrial base was 30%+ of the work force.  Now it is less than 10%.  if this helps return manufacturing back to this nation in even moderate numbers, how is this a bad thing?

Because there is one cold hard fact,  that no one can dispute.....    A nation can not survive and sustain as a "service economy" for too long a period of time.

And I appreciuate DJT being the first POTUS to take this matter seriously, prob. since Reagan.
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« Reply #1576 on: September 19, 2025, 05:04:44 pm »
NOTHING ON THIS THREAD proves a damn thing. It's all a bunch of old men harrumphing and farting in their chairs (ETA: Including me).

You cannot prove that calls were or weren't made.
You cannot prove that statements by media companies aren't loaded for public perception, when the truth of it may be quite different.

It's ALL weighted for public perception, even the cattle calls from BiteFart and the like. So actual proof any which way is few and far between.

Fact: ABC, not Trump, not the FCC, not anyone or anything other than his employer pulled the plug on Kimmel and they did it for perfectly valid reasons.

Fact: The FCC has not acted in any shape, form, or manner.

Now go sit in your chair and whine about Trump some more.
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« Reply #1577 on: September 19, 2025, 05:06:58 pm »
NOTHING ON THIS THREAD proves a damn thing. It's all a bunch of old men harrumphing and farting in their chairs (ETA: Including me).

You cannot prove that calls were or weren't made.
You cannot prove that statements by media companies aren't loaded for public perception, when the truth of it may be quite different.

It's ALL weighted for public perception, even the cattle calls from BiteFart and the like. So actual proof any which way is few and far between.

If this about the Kimmel matter....  You do realize that in a 10 year period he lost 33% of his viewers, and supposedly 25% of sponsor ad money
He should have been fired years ago.   How is this even controversial?
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« Reply #1578 on: September 19, 2025, 05:16:19 pm »
You will never find anything in my posting history, where I have said that tariffs are a long term or a permanent solution.  The great Calvin Coolidge was very clear and consise that the tactic and strategy is just that.  A ways and  means to adjust the slate to insure fair trade. 

This nation for decades has bent over and took it from international trading partners, and the end result is that post World War II, our industrial base was 30%+ of the work force.  Now it is less than 10%.  if this helps return manufacturing back to this nation in even moderate numbers, how is this a bad thing?

Because there is one cold hard fact,  that no one can dispute.....    A nation can not survive and sustain as a "service economy" for too long a period of time.

And I appreciuate DJT being the first POTUS to take this matter seriously, prob. since Reagan.

We have had this argument before. It doesn't put those parts back on the shelf. And there ain't no one in the US making those parts.

I think tariffs have their place - But they are a 9 pound hammer, best not swung much, or you will wear yourself out. And Tumpy is swinging for the bleachers when he would have been better to be more surgical - providing alternatives are available.

There ARE NO ALTERNATIVES, which means this is basically a tax on the American people, which they must pay, one way or another.

I sure as hell ain't for that.

And you will see no real movement with return. Because tariffs rub businesses' noses in it, without fixing the endemic problems that caused them to leave in the first place.

And if the Dems take any house at the midterms, they can shut it all right back off. Are you going to invest billions on a two year bet?

Nope. And even if you say you will, two more years from now, you can change your mind and kill the contract, and everything goes right back the way it was...

Except Tumpists after-orgasm claiming they were right - even though they were not.

And none of this even comes close to Conservatism.

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« Reply #1579 on: September 19, 2025, 05:25:58 pm »
Fact: ABC, not Trump, not the FCC, not anyone or anything other than his employer pulled the plug on Kimmel and they did it for perfectly valid reasons.


Well, duh.

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Fact: The FCC has not acted in any shape, form, or manner.

NOT fact. 'No act on paper' is different than 'no act' . You can't prove that phone calls didn't go back and forth. Evne if you could, Tumpy's previous actions have the media bosses on a hair trigger, as I mentioned.

Hardly a reason to call @LMAO , a fellow member in good standing, a liar. I thought that sort of thing wasn't allowed around here.

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There you go, throwin more shade on me because I won't join in and jump on the band wagon.  *****rollingeyes*****

What is it with Tumpists and having to cut down anyone who doesn't agree with them? It's like y'all are liberals or something.  :shrug:


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« Reply #1580 on: September 19, 2025, 05:30:44 pm »
Fact: ABC, not Trump, not the FCC, not anyone or anything other than his employer pulled the plug on Kimmel and they did it for perfectly valid reasons.

Fact: The FCC has not acted in any shape, form, or manner.

Now go sit in your chair and whine about Trump some more.


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« Reply #1581 on: September 19, 2025, 05:34:34 pm »
Leftists Want Your Hunting Rifles, Too
Whatever “sensible” and “reform” mean to most Americans, to the Left, this Orwellian combination means firearm confiscation and restriction.
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As with any such horrific event, the Left rolled out its normal lineup of mind-virus bait. First, it was, “If we could only get rid of all the guns, Charlie Kirk would not have been killed.” When arguments like this — which any third-grader could rebut — inevitably fail, the fallback is an attempt to act like “the adult in the room” by entreating, “Shouldn’t we all agree on sensible gun reform? Is that asking too much for the sake of our children?”

Or, in the recent words of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) — as she simultaneously dismissed the Left’s use of terms like “Nazi,” “fascist,” and “threats to democracy” in tarring her conservative enemies — we should simply “pass commonsense gun reform.” Coming from AOC, “common sense” is especially rich!

But whatever “sensible” and “reform” mean to most Americans, to the Left, this Orwellian combination means firearm confiscation and restriction. Those duped into agreeing with statements like those above become “useful idiots,” to borrow a term attributed to Vladimir Lenin. That is, they have failed to think critically through these types of statements and have thus become feckless tools of the Left.



They want the citizens unarmed so they can do what ever that they want to the people.

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« Reply #1582 on: September 19, 2025, 05:40:28 pm »
If this about the Kimmel matter....  You do realize that in a 10 year period he lost 33% of his viewers, and supposedly 25% of sponsor ad money
He should have been fired years ago.   How is this even controversial?

It's not. Calling @LMAO a liar and less than conservative is what is controversial.

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« Reply #1583 on: September 19, 2025, 05:43:27 pm »
Well, duh.

NOT fact. 'No act on paper' is different than 'no act' . You can't prove that phone calls didn't go back and forth. Evne if you could, Tumpy's previous actions have the media bosses on a hair trigger, as I mentioned.

Hardly a reason to call @LMAO , a fellow member in good standing, a liar. I thought that sort of thing wasn't allowed around here.

There you go, throwin more shade on me because I won't join in and jump on the band wagon.  *****rollingeyes*****

What is it with Tumpists and having to cut down anyone who doesn't agree with them? It's like y'all are liberals or something.  :shrug:

You and I have had many conversations here previously and mostly agreed but when Trump became president again you came down with a terrible case of Trump Myopia and I can't fix it. I'm done!
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« Reply #1584 on: September 19, 2025, 05:44:35 pm »
You and I have had many conversations here previously and mostly agreed but when Trump became president again you came down with a terrible case of Trump Myopia and I can't fix it. I'm done!

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« Reply #1585 on: September 19, 2025, 05:47:19 pm »
In the end, I will be found to be right... Again.  happy77

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« Reply #1586 on: September 19, 2025, 05:48:57 pm »
You and I have had many conversations here previously and mostly agreed but when Trump became president again you came down with a terrible case of Trump Myopia and I can't fix it. I'm done!

So that's what you look for when you go onto here to post? Agreement? Doesn't make for a lively forum does it?

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« Reply #1587 on: September 19, 2025, 05:57:40 pm »
So that's what you look for when you go onto here to post? Agreement? Doesn't make for a lively forum does it?

It's more about the journey than the destination....

And if we disagree, try to do so agreeably.  Some of us have a tough time doing that!
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« Reply #1588 on: September 19, 2025, 05:58:00 pm »
So that's what you look for when you go onto here to post? Agreement? Doesn't make for a lively forum does it?

I'm all in favor of lively debate on any subject for as long as the participants all recognize truth, facts, and logic. When those elements disappear, I lose interest very quickly. Over the years I've spent on this forum, it has become apparent that no one here wants to seriously debate anything and I have come to terms with that.
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« Reply #1589 on: September 19, 2025, 05:59:25 pm »
I'm all in favor of lively debate on any subject for as long as the participants all recognize truth, facts, and logic. When those elements disappear, I lose interest very quickly. Over the years I've spent on this forum, it has become apparent that no one here wats to seriously debate anything and I have come to terms with that.

Roamer and LMAO are pretty serious debators in my experience.

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« Reply #1590 on: September 19, 2025, 06:04:04 pm »
I can't decide if he looks like a young Beto O'Rourke or a young Andy Beshear.

I'm leaning towards Andy.

@Polly Ticks what say you?


Beto...definitely Beto.

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« Reply #1591 on: September 19, 2025, 06:09:41 pm »

Beto...definitely Beto.

Yeah, he looks like Robert to me too, but that could be because I could never pick Beshear out of a lineup.
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« Reply #1592 on: September 19, 2025, 06:12:47 pm »
Roamer and LMAO are pretty serious debators in my experience.

I disagree with them both on many things, but I can do so agreeably with one more than the other.   :shrug:
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« Reply #1593 on: September 19, 2025, 06:43:16 pm »
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« Reply #1594 on: September 19, 2025, 06:47:43 pm »
Nexstar Denies Jimmy Kimmel Suspension Was Due to FCC Pressure

FWIW

I don't think it was either.  If Kimmel had decent ratings and was making bank he would still be there, and so would be Colbert.
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« Reply #1595 on: September 19, 2025, 06:56:01 pm »
We have had this argument before. It doesn't put those parts back on the shelf. And there ain't no one in the US making those parts.

I think tariffs have their place - But they are a 9 pound hammer, best not swung much, or you will wear yourself out. And Tumpy is swinging for the bleachers when he would have been better to be more surgical - providing alternatives are available.

There ARE NO ALTERNATIVES, which means this is basically a tax on the American people, which they must pay, one way or another.

I sure as hell ain't for that.

And you will see no real movement with return. Because tariffs rub businesses' noses in it, without fixing the endemic problems that caused them to leave in the first place.

And if the Dems take any house at the midterms, they can shut it all right back off. Are you going to invest billions on a two year bet?

Nope. And even if you say you will, two more years from now, you can change your mind and kill the contract, and everything goes right back the way it was...

Except Tumpists after-orgasm claiming they were right - even though they were not.

And none of this even comes close to Conservatism.
Yep. All that's to be expected. When Ross Perot talked about the 'great sucking sound' of jobs going south of the border, an awful lot of the folks who made parts were elsewhere. I recall choosing between brake drums made in Mexico or China, and that hasn't changed much.
It will take time to get those jobs back, for the market to hurt enough for it to be profitable to make parts here, (and that includes computer bits), and it will take some rethinking the environmental regulations that helped choke domestic producers to death. I won't even address unions.

As for used cars, if you have a good one, drive it till the wheels fall off. Why go into enormous debt at high interest for a gizmoed up ride that's made of plastic, and has more points of failure than the electrical grid?

My youngest is 25 this year, and I'm talking about vehicles, not grandkids.
But I kinda rode that, because I sold 5 project pickups this year I wasn't going to have the time or money to restore, anyway. I trimmed the herd at a good profit, even with inflation. So it can work both ways.
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« Reply #1596 on: September 19, 2025, 07:22:52 pm »
I don't think it was either.  If Kimmel had decent ratings and was making bank he would still be there, and so would be Colbert.
His audience was 129,000. No advertiser is going to waste nationwide bucks on that.
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« Reply #1597 on: September 19, 2025, 07:25:26 pm »
Do people on this forum seek out sources of information beyond what is stamped and approved by the Trump administration?

They dumped Jimmy Kimmel under pressure from Trump’s FCC chairman. They’re even threatening to go after others

The glaring hole in the Democrat Party talking points here is that Brendan Carr never spoke to ABC.  Not once.  Carr didn't post a tweet.  He didn't pen an editorial.  He didn't order anyone at his agency to issue any statement or threat.  No, all Carr did was say something on a podcast that no one heard live, that no one even knew about until Benny Johnson reposted it AFTER ABC took action.

So what precipitated ABC's action?  Two things.  First, there was the decision by NexStar to "preempt 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' for the foreseeable future".  They cited Kimmel's actions as the reason for their decision.  Here's a quote from Nextar President, Andrew Alford:

“Continuing to give Mr. Kimmel a broadcast platform in the communities we serve is simply not in the public interest at the current time, and we have made the difficult decision to preempt his show in an effort to let cooler heads prevail as we move toward the resumption of respectful, constructive dialogue.”

Nexstar is the biggest broadcast group in the nation.  They represent more local stations than any other firm.  This was the last straw for ABC.  It wasn't what Kimmel said.  It was the ratings disaster that he represented.

Since January, his ratings have fallen over 40%.  In the 18-49 age group, his viewership is less than 130k.  This is the age group that sells advertising dollars.  And in that regard, ABC was not getting a return on their investment.  With Nexstar's announcement, that 130k number was about to drop again.  So, ABC chose to cut their losses and pull Kimmel from the air (though still paying him through next March).  It was a business decision based on dollars, similar to CBS cancelling Colbert.

Once again Trump has played the Dems.  He got their panties all in a wad not by his actions but because of outrageous statements he has made.  And once again, the left has fallen for it.  So I strongly suggest for members here to not get caught up in it.  Let's examine the facts first instead of jumping on board with a narrative that the truth simply does not support.  Seriously, ask yourself which came first - the suspension, or the reporting of Carr's comment on some podcast.
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« Reply #1598 on: September 19, 2025, 08:13:59 pm »
If you are proven right this Republic is dead as a post. I sincerely hope you aren't.

Quite the opposite is true.
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« Reply #1599 on: September 19, 2025, 08:18:17 pm »
Saw this on Bookface. 

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