Charlie Kirk shot

[mystery-ak]

Utah judge issues pre-trial protective order for Charlie Kirk's widow, Erika Kirk

Utah Fourth Judicial District Court Judge Tony Graf on Tuesday granted a pre-trial protective order for Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika Kirk.

The requested was filed by Utah County prosecutors.

"I have reviewed the pretrial protective order and will be issuing this pretrial protective order in favor of Erika Kirk," the judge said.
Posted by Louis Casiano

[Cyber Liberty]

Utah judge issues pre-trial protective order for Charlie Kirk's widow, Erika Kirk

Utah Fourth Judicial District Court Judge Tony Graf on Tuesday granted a pre-trial protective order for Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika Kirk.

The requested was filed by Utah County prosecutors.

"I have reviewed the pretrial protective order and will be issuing this pretrial protective order in favor of Erika Kirk," the judge said.
Posted by Louis Casiano

Of what good is a protective order?

[mountaineer]

Robinson asked Twiggs to destroy evidence, and he did. But the furry boyfriend has not been charged.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1968083063457583477

[DB]

Of what good is a protective order?

Maybe while she attends the trial?

[Cyber Liberty]

Maybe while she attends the trial?

I'd skip the trial, except for the Sentencing part.

[Cyber Liberty]

Robinson asked Twiggs to destroy evidence, and he did. But the furry boyfriend has not been charged.

Then investigators got those texts from the phone company pretty quickly.

[mountaineer]

Allegations Robinson had not one but two furry homosexual lovers.

https://twitter.com/0HOUR1__/status/1967445125564440644

[DCPatriot]

Firing squad at 200 yards. That’s just me.

My thinking...

Just thinking that given how down-the-middle we seem to be politically I don't want to see him get "George Floyd" or "Joan of Arc" status.

And only Erika Kirk can pull it off.

Pope John II forgave his 1981 assailant publicly.  Today, Pope John II is a Saint.

Secondly, it takes decades to carry out an legal execution, even at the State level, with no federal charges.

A 3rd rate attorney might make the case that the internet/social media/dark web/encrypted gaming sites changed him from a successful high-IQ young man into a screwed up sexual freak and sociopath.

...an alibi for his 'temporary insanity".

[LadyLiberty]

Interesting comments regarding the alleged conversation between Robinson and his boyfriend:

Sadie
@Sadie_NC
I showed this to my 21 and 23-year-old sons, and they said no one they know this age texts like this. They said, "Mom, this is how you text". Do you know any 22-year-olds who text other kids like this? They don't use complete sentences with correct punctuation.
4:40 PM · Sep 16, 2025



TexasGirlRN
@PatriotSkyrific
My 22yr old and 24yr old sons said the same thing. No one they know would text like that. It's all fake!!!
5:57 PM · Sep 16, 2025

End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Those texts were meant to be seen.
Absolves the roommate, George Zinn, and all other trans militia groups. No help, no prior knowledge. Move on.
5:05 PM · Sep 16, 2025


 

My first thought was that the texts were a setup to give the trans boyfriend plausible deniability and make the trans guy look as if he had not also been radicalized and "reasonable". Why not just call on burner phones?

[DCPatriot]

My first thought was that the texts were a setup to give the trans boyfriend plausible deniability and make the trans guy look as if he had not also been radicalized and "reasonable". Why not just call on burner phones?

Seems first thing 'Jody Foster' would do would be to check Tyler's and Zinn's communication history on their phones, laptops and gaming consoles to see if it was similar.

[Cyber Liberty]

it takes decades to carry out an legal execution, even at the State level, with no federal charges.

Timothy McVeigh had a strictly Federal trial, and he was executed lickety split because there were no State Appeals.   

[jmyrlefuller]

Ericka Kirk can't stop the Justice System on her own.

Tyler Robinson committed serious crimes, which he will answer for ... with his life. The wheels of Justice continue to turn.

The only thing she could possibly do is refuse to press charges, as executor of her husband's estate.

[DCPatriot]

Timothy McVeigh had a strictly Federal trial, and he was executed lickety split because there were no State Appeals.   

It is my express understanding that he had dozens of "stay" petitions thrown at him by a rolodex of lawyers. 

He rejected them all.  It's the ONLY reason this execution was carried out so swiftly by comparison.

[bigheadfred]

The only thing she could possibly do is refuse to press charges, as executor of her husband's estate.

 

[roamer_1]

Would like to throw this out for discussion:   

Would it be better Tyler Robinson be executed by firing squad for Charley Kirk's planned assassination??

Or...would it be better for Erika Kirk to step forward and ask for his life to be spared...commuted to life without parole??

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I say pop a cap in him and be done.

I mean, providing he is convicted... I ain't much for keeping murderers and rapists around. I mean, I get it when I guy finds his wife in the sack with his neighbor... I get why he might kill em both... and I can have some empathy there.

But cold blooded murder... Nope.

Same with rape... I can get date rape, where there might be mixed signals... but cold calculated rape of a stranger...

There just ain't no call to keep that around.

It ain't vengeance. Don't care to torture em, with an eye for an eye and all that. Just make em quit suckin air, and that's that.

Now,I get that keeping them alive, they might come to find their savior and try to make amends, and all that...

Well, they better pray fast, because they have till morning.

[DB]

The only thing she could possibly do is refuse to press charges, as executor of her husband's estate.

That isn't an option. It is the state that "presses charges" when someone is murdered.

[Kamaji]

The only thing she could possibly do is refuse to press charges, as executor of her husband's estate.

Doesn’t work that way.  “Refusing to press charges” is inaccurate talk for “I won’t testify at the trial” and only works if the victims testimony would be crucial to the prosecution.

First, her testimony is not relevant to the acts charged, so she has no leverage there.   Second, there is more than enough other evidence, including the fascists own words, to prosecute him.

[roamer_1]

Did Jesus say the man beside him on the cross was wrongfully being put to death?... Did Jesus contradict him when the convict said he (himself) was rightfully being put to death (and Jesus did no wrong)?

Sorry, but if she does "forgive" the killer (especially if he has not heartfelt asked for forgiveness), I will be highly disappointed. Society demands to see justice, and though she had more skin in the game, all of us were affected. From kids at the event to kids shown the murder in classrooms by their demented teachers (and 10,000 other ways this affects all of us).

Oh, I can forgive him... And she can too. I have no hate for the man even now. I think he is horribly confused and hasn't thunk out his path.

But he has a bill to pay. And none of that has anything to to with forgiving him, if you can understand that.

[Idiot]

Read the chilling text exchange between Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin and his trans lover

Sorry....no way 20 somethings text like this.

[Idiot]

Allegations Robinson had not one but two furry homosexual lovers.

https://twitter.com/0HOUR1__/status/1967445125564440644

[DCPatriot]

Imaging writing, "To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age", on the forever internet. - Grey Whiskers

[MeganC]

Of what good is a protective order?

It pretty much means that any crazy lefty coming near her is entering a free fire zone.

[Hoodat]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1968067121289760859

[DCPatriot]

[Hoodat]

Another job loser

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1967841433660035284

[Cyber Liberty]

The only thing she could possibly do is refuse to press charges, as executor of her husband's estate.

Robinson's crimes are against the State .

[Kamaji]

Another job loser

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1967841433660035284

[DCPatriot]

Robinson's crimes are against the State .

My 'silly' suggestion in the personal plea for mercy from a firing squad was as much for the cameras...not for the actual success in the final outcome.

It could turn the focus of the post-execution revenge toward the government and not the MAGA crowd.

[Lando Lincoln]

My 'silly' suggestion in the personal plea for mercy from a firing squad was as much for the cameras...not for the actual success in the final outcome.

It could turn the focus of the post-execution revenge toward the government and not the MAGA crowd.

If Erika Kirk made a heartfelt plea, it would likely have impact. I could see her doing it.

[txradioguy]

Of what good is a protective order?

It means nothing unless at the same time you exercise your 2nd Amendment rights.

[mountaineer]

When I saw that ABC reporter getting all dewy-eyed over the sweet and touching love between Tyler and Lance, my gaydar was sounding a 140 decibel alarm.

[txradioguy]

Timothy McVeigh had a strictly Federal trial, and he was executed lickety split because there were no State Appeals.   

The process speeds up immensely when...like McVeigh...you drop all appeals to your sentence and tell the normal bleeding-heart groups not to file an appeal on your behalf.

[txradioguy]

When I saw that ABC reporter getting all dewy-eyed over the sweet and touching love between Tyler and Lance, my gaydar was sounding a 140 decibel alarm.

It was fun watching the clip of Scott Jennings destroying Montel Williams on CNN last night after Kamala's former boyfriend described the shooter in Utah as "a love struck kid"

[cato potatoe]

Sorry....no way 20 somethings text like this.

He's from Utah.  They can be corny.

[mountaineer]

Regarding the text message, which some people say must be fake because the language, punctuation, etc., appear so unusual for two guys in their early 20s, this practicing attorney has an opinion:

James Skyles KCHS
@jdskyles
To everyone who thinks the text messages in TR’s charging document are a forgery, the prosecution is required to disclose every element of those text messages to the defense.  This includes all data, and must allow access to the devices themselves to extract data including metadata.  This data will disclose when and likely where the messages were sent and received.  If the charging document is forged, the police and the prosecutors are in big trouble.  Can metadata be tampered with?  Yes.  It can even be deleted entirely.  However you can’t mess with metadata without leaving evidence that it’s been messed with, and any data analyst the defense hires would know exactly what to look for.  Any evidence of tampered metadata would destroy the prosecution completely. 

Bottom line,  the text messages in the charging document are very likely real and accurate.
8:39 AM · Sep 17, 2025

[Polly Ticks]

Regarding the text message, which some people say must be fake because the language, punctuation, etc., appear so unusual for two guys in their early 20s, this practicing attorney has an opinion:

James Skyles KCHS
@jdskyles
To everyone who thinks the text messages in TR’s charging document are a forgery, the prosecution is required to disclose every element of those text messages to the defense.  This includes all data, and must allow access to the devices themselves to extract data including metadata.  This data will disclose when and likely where the messages were sent and received.  If the charging document is forged, the police and the prosecutors are in big trouble.  Can metadata be tampered with?  Yes.  It can even be deleted entirely.  However you can’t mess with metadata without leaving evidence that it’s been messed with, and any data analyst the defense hires would know exactly what to look for.  Any evidence of tampered metadata would destroy the prosecution completely. 

Bottom line,  the text messages in the charging document are very likely real and accurate.
8:39 AM · Sep 17, 2025

They could also have been speech-to-text, which tends to read more "normal" than teen-text.

[GtHawk]

Timothy McVeigh had a strictly Federal trial, and he was executed lickety split because there were no State Appeals.   

Then charge him federally for depriving Kirk of his right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

[DefiantMassRINO]

McVeigh targeted a Federal building and Federal employees which made it a Federal crime.

The genius of stochastic lone wolf terrorism is that is won't be prosecuted as terrorism as long as the targets are not Federal Property nor Federal employees, and there is no admissable proof of an interstate or international conspiracy.

The assassin's electronic footprint could be a vector for pursuing an interstate or international conspiracy charge if there is evidence to support it.

Also, if there is proof that he violated Federal firearms laws, that could be another vector for Federal prosecution.

[txradioguy]

McVeigh targeted a Federal building and Federal employees which made it a Federal crime.

The genius of stochastic lone wolf terrorism is that is won't be prosecuted as terrorism as long as the targets are not Federal Property nor Federal employees, and there is no admissable proof of an interstate or international conspiracy.

The assassin's electronic footprint could be a vector for pursuing an interstate or international conspiracy charge if there is evidence to support it.

Also, if there is proof that he violated Federal firearms laws, that could be another vector for Federal prosecution.

Just do like the Lib DoJ's do...charge it as a civil rights violation.

[mystery-ak]

Rep. Nancy Mace: If You’re a Teacher or Healthcare Professionals in SC Celebrating Murder ‘I’m Going to Make Sure You Get Fired’

Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC) said she will make sure that teachers and health care professionals publicly celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk will get fired, she told reporters this week.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/09/17/rep-nancy-mace-if-youre-a-teacher-or-healthcare-professionals-in-sc-celebrating-murder-im-going-to-make-sure-you-get-fired/

[Luis Gonzalez]

Would like to throw this out for discussion:   

Would it be better Tyler Robinson be executed by firing squad for Charley Kirk's planned assassination??

Or...would it be better for Erika Kirk to step forward and ask for his life to be spared...commuted to life without parole??

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I'd like to slap the horse's ass in a public lynching.

[catfish1957]

I'd like to slap the horse's ass in a public lynching.

There are at least 10-12 Medieval execution/torture methods I'd like to see resurrected for the perp if convicted.,

[verga]

Did Jesus say the man beside him on the cross was wrongfully being put to death?... Did Jesus contradict him when the convict said he (himself) was rightfully being put to death (and Jesus did no wrong)?

Sorry, but if she does "forgive" the killer (especially if he has not heartfelt asked for forgiveness), I will be highly disappointed. Society demands to see justice, and though she had more skin in the game, all of us were affected. From kids at the event to kids shown the murder in classrooms by their demented teachers (and 10,000 other ways this affects all of us).

As a Christian, she has a responsibility to forgive him. Just as David was forgiven in the OT for the adultery with Bathsheba, and murder of Uriah, he did have to suffer the consequences.

[mystery-ak]

Rep. Randy Fine: Put Charlie Kirk Assassin ‘in Front of a Firing Squad for the Entire World to See’

Rep. Randy Fine urged that Charlie Kirk’s assassin be executed via firing squad as an example that political violence will not be tolerated.

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2025/09/17/rep-randy-fine-put-charlie-kirk-assassin-in-front-firing-squad-entire-world-to-see/

[rangerrebew]

CURIOUS AND CURIOUSER: Man Arrested Immediately After Charlie Kirk Assassination Who Was Trying to Help Shooter Escape Hit With Child Sex Porn Charges
By Pamela Geller - on September 17, 2025

ShareTweetTruthGettrTelegramLinkedIn These people.

George Zinn was the man first arrested in the immediate wake of Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Zinn says he told police he shot Kirk to distract police so the real shooter could escape.

“I shot him, now shoot me,” George Zinn allegedly said immediately after Kirk was shot.
 

 
While speaking to investigators, Zinn said he was trying to “draw attention from the real shooter.” How did he know to be there? To immediately say that? It’s giving Ray Epps vibes

More on the assassination here.

Zinn has now been hit with child porn charges.

https://gellerreport.com/2025/09/curious-and-curiouser-man-arrested-immediately-after-charlie-kirk-assassination-who-was-trying-to-help-shooter-escape-hit-with-child-sex-porn-charges.html/

[Luis Gonzalez]

There are at least 10-12 Medieval execution/torture methods I'd like to see resurrected for the perp if convicted.,

IDK.

He’d probably enjoy about half of them.

[240B]

FYI: There is a 'thing' going around which says that Israel is responsible for Kirk's assassination.

Couldn't wait to read it so I can understand how Israel somehow got a transgender mormon American Leftist pro-Palestinian radical to shoot someone who Israel likes with his grandfather's old rifle. Thought it was going to be funny so I dove in.

The gist of the thing is, Israel was mad at Kirk for not being pro-Israel enough to their liking so Israel had him killed. No explanation on HOW (no plans, no evidence) they managed to do it. It is just a fact that Israel did it.

That's all. That is the entire argument.

Turned out to an insane mish-mash of opinions, antisemitism, unverified quotes, and unverified so-called 'facts'. It was a waste of time. But it shows that no matter what happens anywhere on Earth, there is a group of people who will always blame it all on Israel and the JOOOOS.

The biggest question of all, which is avoided and unanswered, with all of the truly violently anti-Israel and AntiSemitic public people in the world, who represent a 'real' and direct threat to Israel, why would Israel waste even two minutes worrying about what Charlie Kirk says about anything? If Israel assassinates speakers it does not like, then why is Greta Thunberg still alive and Charlie Kirk is dead?

[DB]

They make a lot of noise to bury the truth in it. And it appears to work with their idiot followers. Critical thinking has been absent there for some time.

[Bigun]

They make a lot of noise to bury the truth in it. And it appears to work with their idiot followers. Critical thinking has been absent there for some time.

And that's a FACT!!!

[mountaineer]

FYI: There is a 'thing' going around which says that Israel is responsible for Kirk's assassination.

You can thank Jooo-hating nuts like Candace Owens.

Pastor Greg Locke
@pastorlocke
ISRAEL DID NOT KILL CHARLIE KIRK. STOP THIS DEMONIC MADNESS.
2:04 PM · Sep 17, 2025