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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #150 on: September 02, 2024, 06:37:20 pm »
   Trump has taken on Messiah-like properties to them; they can't criticize him AND therein lies the major problem for the last 10 years.

Hey, go ahead and criticize Trump all you want.  I certainly have and will continue to do so and certainly he doesn't possess Messiah-like properties.

My only point of contention is patriotism, love of country, the rule of law and belief in Christianity vs. no love of country or it's people, ignoring the rule of law and rebuking Christianity.  Our country was founded upon Christian morals and principles. 

Trump's smearing of DeSantis and Cruz still doesn't sit well with me and never will. Cruz stood behind him for the most part during his presidency, DeSantis has stated that he will campaign for him .... something needs to be learned from that.

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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #151 on: September 02, 2024, 06:40:16 pm »
I have no more time for people who cannot discern between full fledged Commies and people who genuinely LOVE this country. Not going to waste another second on them. Perhaps that's just me.
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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #152 on: September 02, 2024, 06:42:01 pm »
Yes

This country is more than the Trump/Harris show.

I'm not saying things wont be difficult. And both Trump and Harris bring problems of their own. But America has survived worse

Trump has you convinced that this country will fall to Third World status if he's not elected. He made those same claims in 2020. Where's my 1929 style stock market crash he promised us if Biden won :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

The bullshit isn't just unique to Trump voters. I've read the same gloom and doom on the left if Trump wins when Biden was losing to him early this summer

I've  said the pendulum swings. Always. And it will again. Patience.  But the GOP will have to come to terms with not only their Trump problem, but how they created the situation that gave rise to someone like Trump in the first place in the party after they lose this fall

The situation with Trump was created or perhaps a better word is fabricated by the bogus Russia collusion, fake impeachments, liberal smear tactics, bogus felonies, etc., and absolutely a stolen election that put Joe at the helm to begin with!!! 

Go ahead and vote Harris.  You need to absolutely vote how you see fit.  I'm only defending my position, and my intent is not or was not to try and convince you to vote otherwise.

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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #153 on: September 02, 2024, 06:43:22 pm »
I have no more time for people who cannot discern between full fledged Commies and people who genuinely LOVE this country. Not going to waste another second on them. Perhaps that's just me.

Loving your country isn't a policy

Stalin, Mussolini, Castro, Mao all loved their country. Horrible policies, though
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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #154 on: September 02, 2024, 06:53:32 pm »
Loving your country isn't a policy

Stalin, Mussolini, Castro, Mao all loved their country. Horrible policies, though

Yabut, yabutt...
You're not a patriot unless you vote *FOR* Tumpy...
You're not a patriot unless you vote *FOR* big government coming from the 'Right'...

Puleeez.  **nononono*

I swear... It's the same damn thing every election year.

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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #155 on: September 02, 2024, 07:14:52 pm »
Loving your country isn't a policy

Stalin, Mussolini, Castro, Mao all loved their country. Horrible policies, though

Gee, I didn't realize that Stalin, Mussolini, Castro and Mao loved America!

We're talking about America, but you already knew that and your rebuttal is pretty thin.

Plain and simple -- once again -- either you vote for someone who is pro-America or you vote for someone who is anti-America.  That scenario is pretty obvious and pretty darn cut and dry.

That's all. This conversation is over.
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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #156 on: September 02, 2024, 07:37:50 pm »
The situation with Trump was created or perhaps a better word is fabricated by the bogus Russia collusion, fake impeachments, liberal smear tactics, bogus felonies, etc., and absolutely a stolen election that put Joe at the helm to begin with!!! 

Go ahead and vote Harris.  You need to absolutely vote how you see fit.  I'm only defending my position, and my intent is not or was not to try and convince you to vote otherwise.

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"and absolutely a stolen election"

There's still ZERO!!! evidence of a stolen election. Trump lied....period. Because he couldn't stand losing to a cadaverous toad like Joe Biden, and he generally lies about numerous other things.
And no, I'm not voting for Harris.

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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #157 on: September 02, 2024, 07:48:34 pm »
"and absolutely a stolen election"

There's still ZERO!!! evidence of a stolen election. Trump lied....period. Because he couldn't stand losing to a cadaverous toad like Joe Biden, and he generally lies about numerous other things.
And no, I'm not voting for Harris.

Enough of that.  Only Democrat voters still believe there is no evidence of cheating.  The elections people in GA recently admitted there were more than enough fake ballots for Biden to reverse 2020 in that state.
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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #158 on: September 02, 2024, 08:01:42 pm »
Loving your country isn't a policy

It's more than that:  Love of country -- or lack thereof -- informs all decisions, including policy.


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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #159 on: September 02, 2024, 08:08:50 pm »
It's more than that:  Love of country -- or lack thereof -- informs all decisions, including policy.

:yowsa: Absolutely!
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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #160 on: September 02, 2024, 08:19:27 pm »
Which bears to ask.....   Do you really want to be in charge when the SHTF?
So FDR being leader was better than Hoover during the Great Depression?
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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #161 on: September 02, 2024, 08:25:17 pm »
Loving your country isn't a policy

Stalin, Mussolini, Castro, Mao all loved their country. Horrible policies, though
That is a very poor argument you are presenting.

The people you listed committed mass murders on a scale rarely seen in the world and you believe they loved the country so much they murdered their own countrymen?

Loving your country is being patriotic which is the absolute highest policy one can obtain.

Too bad George Washington is not around for you to ask him whether he believed that a suitable policy.
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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #162 on: September 02, 2024, 08:34:29 pm »

The people you listed committed mass murders on a scale rarely seen in the world and you believe they loved the country so much they murdered their own countrymen?



 :thud: :facepalm2:

Since you missed it the first time


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Watch it and get back to me
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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #163 on: September 02, 2024, 09:12:37 pm »
Yes

This country is more than the Trump/Harris show.

I'm not saying things wont be difficult. And both Trump and Harris bring problems of their own. But America has survived worse

Trump has you convinced that this country will fall to Third World status if he's not elected. He made those same claims in 2020. Where's my 1929 style stock market crash he promised us if Biden won :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

The bullshit isn't just unique to Trump voters. I've read the same gloom and doom on the left if Trump wins when Biden was losing to him early this summer

I've  said the pendulum swings. Always. And it will again. Patience.  But the GOP will have to come to terms with not only their Trump problem, but how they created the situation that gave rise to someone like Trump in the first place in the party after they lose this fall

What a bunch of garbled crappola.  First of all I find irony with your statement that things have been worse.  Really?  You claim that our country's deficit has skyrocketed higher than ever before (blaming Trump's lack of fiscal responsibility); since our deficit is much higher than it's ever been, in that light, your statement is completely false that hings have been worse.

Speaking of deficit .... to disregard the billions if not trillions by now that we have spent on Ukraine is shameful.

Never in history have we had such disregard for the rule of law that gangs are taking over apartment complexes and homes and squatters taking over homes without repercussions.

Never in history have we had bogus impeachments, fake Russia collusion, bogus felony charges along with an attempted assassination on a past president to circumvent an election.  Never in history has an election been stolen that it was so obvious that now people are coming forward and admitting what took place.  Never in history has their been a nominee selected for the people instead of the people voting for the nominee.

Never in history have we seen a massive defunding of the police so much so that cities are in pretty dire shape.

Never in history have we seen such massive and intentional ILLEGAL migration into this country to change the demographics to win an election. If you think that they are being let in because the DEMS feel sorry for them, you truly need to open your eyes. Our citizens are being murdered, raped, and tortured and our government continues to opt to not defend its citizens. 

Interestingly, you say we'll spring back from all of this if the GOP is just patient.   :thud:

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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #164 on: September 02, 2024, 09:28:01 pm »
It's more than that:  Love of country -- or lack thereof -- informs all decisions, including policy.

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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #165 on: September 02, 2024, 09:28:48 pm »
So FDR being leader was better than Hoover during the Great Depression?

They were both abysmal.
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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #166 on: September 02, 2024, 09:53:29 pm »
:thud: :facepalm2:

Since you missed it the first time


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqQ-g60BVx8

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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #167 on: September 02, 2024, 09:56:59 pm »
What a bunch of garbled crappola.  First of all I find irony with your statement that things have been worse.  Really?  You claim that our country's deficit has skyrocketed higher than ever before (blaming Trump's lack of fiscal responsibility); since our deficit is much higher than it's ever been, in that light, your statement is completely false that hings have been worse.

Speaking of deficit .... to disregard the billions if not trillions by now that we have spent on Ukraine is shameful.

Never in history have we had such disregard for the rule of law that gangs are taking over apartment complexes and homes and squatters taking over homes without repercussions.

Never in history have we had bogus impeachments, fake Russia collusion, bogus felony charges along with an attempted assassination on a past president to circumvent an election.  Never in history has an election been stolen that it was so obvious that now people are coming forward and admitting what took place.  Never in history has their been a nominee selected for the people instead of the people voting for the nominee.

Never in history have we seen a massive defunding of the police so much so that cities are in pretty dire shape.

Never in history have we seen such massive and intentional ILLEGAL migration into this country to change the demographics to win an election. If you think that they are being let in because the DEMS feel sorry for them, you truly need to open your eyes. Our citizens are being murdered, raped, and tortured and our government continues to opt to not defend its citizens. 

Interestingly, you say we'll spring back from all of this if the GOP is just patient.   :thud:

Nothing is insurmountable

Take the debt and deficit for example. I believe that, along with the general expansion of the federal government, is the number one issue facing this country. But that doesn't mean it can't be fixed. It'll take leadership.

But it won't be fixed by promising $25,000 for new home purchases or paying for IVF treatments. These deficits are so out of control that even if we got the defit down to a trillion, that would be progress
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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #168 on: September 02, 2024, 10:06:52 pm »
They were both abysmal.
You are correct, they both failed us. 

I consider both patriots who had the divergence of views of conservative (Hoover) vs liberal (FDR) to solve the economic problem.

I also venture to say that FDR used the excuse of economic ruin to stupendously enlarging the government and welfare state from which we as a country have never recovered, and we have that legacy now of almost 100 years of governmental taking control.
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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #169 on: September 02, 2024, 10:39:43 pm »
It's more than that:  Love of country -- or lack thereof -- informs all decisions, including policy.

More absolute bullcrap.

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« Reply #170 on: September 02, 2024, 10:46:23 pm »
Loving your country is being patriotic which is the absolute highest policy one can obtain.

Well, no it is not. All of our country's foundation is first beholden to God - THAT is the absolute and highest policy to obtain.

And love of country means nothing without context.


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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #171 on: September 02, 2024, 11:07:24 pm »
It's more than that:  Love of country -- or lack thereof -- informs all decisions, including policy.

So does adding $8 trillion to our national debt come from "love of country" or "lack thereof"?
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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #172 on: September 03, 2024, 05:57:17 am »
I would take Bill Clinton back (minus Hillary) over Harris and Trump any day.

@massadvj

But this is not what is on the ballot.

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« Reply #173 on: September 03, 2024, 01:21:49 pm »
It's more than that:  Love of country -- or lack thereof -- informs all decisions, including policy.

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Re: Is Trump a liar?
« Reply #174 on: September 03, 2024, 02:01:38 pm »
So does adding $8 trillion to our national debt come from "love of country" or "lack thereof"?

Those wrapping themselves in the flag should be able to answer that.