Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election

[Mom MD]

I would contest it even if Jones numbers end up beating out Moore.   The Democrats always bring a lot of vote fraud and ineligible voters to the elections.

And find even more during recounts

[Bigun]

Akin, O'Donnell, Angle, Moore...just throwing away Senate seats by nominating bad candidates.

And a bad candidate is anyone who refuses to kiss all the proper rings and get the stamp of approval!

[DiogenesLamp]

Moore also spent the last Saturday before the election watching the Army-Navy game.

He should have been out campaigning because obviously there must have still been two people in the state somewhere that hadn't already made up their mind.   

[dfwgator]

Great message from the President.

We all know Trump didn't want to have to support Moore.  But he was the good soldier just the same. 

[catfish1957]

No, it was pretty much the media smears and the backstabbing by people in his own party.

The ones who need to be fired are the ones in the GOP who are vetting senate candidates.

[DiogenesLamp]

Only one candidate could have lost, and it was Moore.  And that's who the voters put up.

There you go with that alien thinking again.   Any candidate accused of such things would have been in serious trouble.   Moore might actually have weathered the accusations better than others could have.   

[RetBobbyMI]

   I don't blame President Trump wholly for the loss of this solid Republican seat, I blame the GOP, the NRSC and Mitch, unfortunately Trump is  the CEO of all of them.


*I sure hope Cruz ditches this CF of a party AFTER he wins his re election and goes Constitution or Federalist.

Sure hope so. A new party is sorely needed. The GOP can’t even support their own.

[edpc]

Name one recount a republican has won  Even Bush was headed for a loss before the courts stopped the circus.  The Democrats are masters at manufacturing votes in a recount

Ah - the good old days when a pregnant chad wasn't some trans dude....

[DiogenesLamp]

We still have 51 plus Pence.  I don’t blame people for not voting for Moore.  I would have had a hard time voting for him if I lived in Alabama

I do blame them.   You do not make things better by supporting the party of evil.  We need all the Senate votes we can get to help pass Trump's agenda. 


People aren't keeping their eye on the prize here.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

And a bad candidate is anyone who refuses to kiss all the proper rings and get the stamp of approval!

There's a lot of truth in that @Bigun  But a bad candidate is also one who doesn't use every moment of his time campaigning, shaking hands --- especially when he's not the swamp's pick.

Moore let us all down with the way he ran his campaign.

[dfwgator]

I do blame them.   You do not make things better by supporting the party of evil.  We need all the Senate votes we can get to help pass Trump's agenda. 


People aren't keeping their eye on the prize here.

No they aren't.   They would have sat out fighting WWII just because they hated FDR.  We are AT WAR, Folks, whether you see it or not.

[DiogenesLamp]

There was a lot of backstabbing of Moore.  But Moore had nothing to run on other than the Ten Commandments and our need to return to God.

Which is probably why he chose to watch the Army-Navy game on Saturday instead of campaigning.

Moore is now a three time loser in a statewide election in Alabama.  Let's hope three times is the limit.

Oh he's done.   But he didn't fall,  he was pushed.   

[Mom MD]

I do blame them.   You do not make things better by supporting the party of evil.  We need all the Senate votes we can get to help pass Trump's agenda. 


People aren't keeping their eye on the prize here.

Not voting for a candidate is not the same as supporting the other candidate.  Sometimes the end does not justify the means.  Everyone reaches a point eventually where the lesser of two evils is still
Evil

[edpc]

We still have 51 plus Pence.

True but the 51 includes McCain, Murkowski, Flake, and Collins.

[DiogenesLamp]

It's not a new formula.

Our side has been falling for that formula for a long time.   

[Variant]

There you go with that alien thinking again.   Any candidate accused of such things would have been in serious trouble.   Moore might actually have weathered the accusations better than others could have.

Agree to disagree.  IMO, Moore was the most vulnerable to any sort of accusations.  Trump had the right instincts on this.

Note: I would have pulled the lever for Moore if I were a resident, but not in the primaries.

[Cyber Liberty]

Our side has been falling for that formula for a long time.

Yup.  And I know who I'm going to be looking at if this matter with Moore gets dropped, now that he lost.  It will be the proof it was just a ruse, and people I thought would know better bit on it.  Let's see what happens now.

[DiogenesLamp]

Name one recount a republican has won  Even Bush was headed for a loss before the courts stopped the circus.  The Democrats are masters at manufacturing votes in a recount

No,  that's incorrect.   I've read countless analysis of the recount in Florida,  and in every single one of them Bush was going to win it.   

But yes, the Democrats usually manage to steal it in close elections,  but i'm thinking Alabama might not work out like that. 


Besides,  there is nothing to lose from trying. 

[corbe]

    Good Tweet, my anticipation is over.

[Variant]

No,  that's incorrect.   I've read countless analysis of the recount in Florida,  and in every single one of them Bush was going to win it.   

But yes, the Democrats usually manage to steal it in close elections,  but i'm thinking Alabama might not work out like that. 


Besides,  there is nothing to lose from trying.

Yes, analysis after the 2000 election showed Bush would have, in fact, gained votes in the recounts.

Moore should challenge, but don't think it will change the outcome.

[Bigun]

Yup.  And I know who I'm going to be looking at if this matter with Moore gets dropped, now that he lost.  It will be the proof it was just a ruse, and people I thought would know better bit on it.  Let's see what happens now.

We damned well already know who to look at but what good is it?  What are you going to do to stop their doing it over and over again?

[Mom MD]

Yup.  And I know who I'm going to be looking at if this matter with Moore gets dropped, now that he lost.  It will be the proof it was just a ruse, and people I thought would know better bit on it.  Let's see what happens now.

I’m not sure where it could go.  The statute of limitations is long past for any legal action.  The only court this could be tried in is that of public opinion.   Moore could sue for slander but it would be very expensive, very hard to prove, and would open him up to discovery.  I bet after some huffing and puffing he drops it.

[Free Vulcan]

Final tally:

Doug Jones    Democrat    671,151    49.9%    
Roy Moore    Republican    650,436    48.4    
Total Write-Ins    â€”    22,819    1.7    

100% reporting (2,220 of 2,220 precincts)

[Frank Cannon]

    Good Tweet, my anticipation is over.

Does that mean you are going away now so everyone can enjoy their night poll boy?

[Cyber Liberty]

Yes, analysis after the 2000 election showed Bush would have, in fact, gained votes in the recounts.

Moore should challenge, but don't think it will change the outcome.

The thing about the 2000 recount analysis is it was flawed.  If the recounts would have continued, the Democrats would have had the chance to manufacture more Gore votes, or throw out more Bush votes.  That was not taken into account by the press that did the final recount to which you refer.