Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election

[RetBobbyMI]

Alabama SOS site has it closing
49.43%   526,027.  Jones
49.20%.  523,622.  Moore
14,553.   Write in’s
Total Ballots Cast: 1,066,716  Total Registered Voters: 3,326,812  Voter Turnout: 32.06%  Counties Reported: 65 of 67  Last Updated: 12/12/2017 09:53:41 PM

[musiclady]

The reality is that turnout was excellent across the state. I'm not sure who stayed home.

What got Jones over the line was the black vote, which has nothing to do with Moore, other than the smear ads by Jones calling him a racist.

Or Moore, himself, saying that the time of slavery was a great time because families were stronger. 

He did this to himself.   No one did it for him....... or to him.

[Mom MD]

What a circus a recount would be

[dfwgator]

The reality is that turnout was excellent across the state. I'm not sure who stayed home.

What got Jones over the line was the black vote, which has nothing to do with Moore, other than the smear ads by Jones calling him a racist.

Should have picked our own damned cotton.

[musiclady]

Yeah, if the people of Alabama hadn't voted for Moore in the first place, they wouldn't have had to choose between the target of a full bore smear campaign and a supporter of murdering babies.

Oh, and that trial by media thingy....

People will have the government they deserve.

Sorry.  I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.

We agree on almost everything else, so I hope that's OK with you.

The media smear didn't lose it for Moore.   He did.  NO Republican candidate should have lost this seat.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@mystery-ak

They would not go after Pence; he is not mentally crippled like Trump.

The President is not mentally crippled @Victoria33

And, yes, Pence will be removed, too.  So be careful what you wish for.

[DiogenesLamp]

Electing Moore would not have stopped baby murder.  There are not 60 votes in the senate for that even with Moore.  There aren’t even 50 votes with the likes of Collins and Murkowski who are supposedly on our side of the aisle

I think Judicial nominees no longer have to have 60 votes.  I believe Harry Reid triggered the Nuke option,  and so we've been using it.   


Now very good judges can get hungup in the Senate in favor of "moderates".   


Not voting has resulted in a nigh on infinity more damage than voting would have had.   

[edpc]

Alabama SOS site has it closing
49.43%   526,027.  Jones
49.20%.  523,622.  Moore
14,553.   Write in’s
Total Ballots Cast: 1,066,716  Total Registered Voters: 3,326,812  Voter Turnout: 32.06%  Counties Reported: 65 of 67  Last Updated: 12/12/2017 09:53:41 PM

That's half the turnout from Nov 2016.  Perhaps that's not bad for a special election, but it's pretty obvious a lot of people didn't care.

[Hoodat]

No, it was the fault of people who spread around unprovable accusations from 40 F***ing years ago.

No, it is still Moore's responsibility.  He did a piss poor job of defending himself.  He should have been campaigning across the state non-stop like a real candidate does.  But he figured his Ten Commandments stance was all that was needed.

Moore may have a good chunk of the people swayed, but he sucks at politics.

[RetBobbyMI]

U.S. SENATE SPECIAL GENERAL ELECTION 2017 STATEWIDE RESULTS

Total Ballots Cast: 1,132,826  Total Registered Voters: 3,326,812  Voter Turnout: 34.05%  Counties Reported: 66 of 67  Last Updated: 12/12/2017 09:56:44 PM
The election results presented on these pages are unofficial and presented as a courtesy of the Alabama Secretary of State and Alabama’s Probate Judges. The accuracy of the election results is the responsibility of the Probate Judge for each county reporting.

UNITED STATES SENATOR
        
Doug Jones (DEM)   49.01%.   553,931
Roy S. Moore (REP)   49.55%.   560,083
Write-In   1.44%.   16,271
   
1,130,285

[Jazzhead]

@Victoria33
Moore didn't lose us shit.

He lost evangelicals their moral authority.   They're cynical opportunists no better than the rest.   It is a scandal that the GOP couldn't retain this seat.  It nominated the only man that could persuade the State of Alabama to send to the Senate who could well be their most liberal member.

   

[musiclady]

Should have picked our own damned cotton.

Wow.   That was uncalled for.

[Hoodat]

The media smear didn't lose it for Moore.   He did.  NO Republican candidate should have lost this seat.

Word.

[Bigun]

What a circus a recount would be

It doesn't really matter now because the swamp and the media have proven their formula to keep unwanted interlopers out and it will be used unceasingly without mercy from here on out. 

[RetBobbyMI]

U.S. SENATE SPECIAL GENERAL ELECTION 2017 STATEWIDE RESULTS

Total Ballots Cast: 1,132,826  Total Registered Voters: 3,326,812  Voter Turnout: 34.05%  Counties Reported: 66 of 67  Last Updated: 12/12/2017 09:56:44 PM
The election results presented on these pages are unofficial and presented as a courtesy of the Alabama Secretary of State and Alabama’s Probate Judges. The accuracy of the election results is the responsibility of the Probate Judge for each county reporting.

UNITED STATES SENATOR
        
Doug Jones (DEM)   49.01%.   553,931
Roy S. Moore (REP)   49.55%.   560,083
Write-In   1.44%.   16,271
   
1,130,285

Who said Moore lost. The fat lady didn’t sing yet

[DiogenesLamp]

@Victoria33
Moore didn't lose us shit.

That is my position as well.   Our guy got backstabbed by people all to eager to believe the guy they didn't like anyways, was a creep.   

Jeff Flake wrote a check to Doug Jones.   That's the kind of treasonous scum we have in our party.   

[Frank Cannon]

@mystery-ak

They would not go after Pence; he is not mentally crippled like Trump.

Really? He is the most cripple establishment loser we have had as VP since Algore.

I hope the Rats find out Mike is having an affair so we have proof he is not a robot or a martian.

[Free Vulcan]

Latest results I've seen:

Doug Jones    Democrat    639,088    49.5%    
Roy Moore    Republican    629,749    48.8    
Total Write-Ins    â€”    22,019    1.7    

98% reporting (2,181 of 2,220 precincts)

[Right_in_Virginia]

No, it is still Moore's responsibility.  He did a piss poor job of defending himself.  He should have been campaigning across the state non-stop like a real candidate does.  But he figured his Ten Commandments stance was all that was needed.

Moore may have a good chunk of the people swayed, but he sucks at politics.

Moore also spent the last Saturday before the election watching the Army-Navy game.

[Variant]

Sorry.  I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.

We agree on almost everything else, so I hope that's OK with you.

The media smear didn't lose it for Moore.   He did.  NO Republican candidate should have lost this seat.

Only one candidate could have lost, and it was Moore.  And that's who the voters put up.

[DiogenesLamp]

History with Moore says it was always going to be a close race.  He wasn't a candidate who had any margin for resiliency against smears -- bogus or otherwise.

Not one F***ing candidate could have survived that attack.  It didn't matter if it was Mo Brooks or Luther Strange,  that attack would have destroyed them too.   

[dfwgator]

That is my position as well.   Our guy got backstabbed by people all to eager to believe the guy they didn't like anyways, was a creep.   

Jeff Flake wrote a check to Doug Jones.   That's the kind of treasonous scum we have in our party.

The Treasonous Scum starts at the very top of the Party.   Yes, Mitch, I'm talking about you.

[Mom MD]

I think Judicial nominees no longer have to have 60 votes.  I believe Harry Reid triggered the Nuke option,  and so we've been using it.   


Now very good judges can get hungup in the Senate in favor of "moderates".   


Not voting has resulted in a nigh on infinity more damage than voting would have had.

We still have 51 plus Pence.  I don’t blame people for not voting for Moore.  I would have had a hard time voting for him if I lived in Alabama

[Hoodat]

U.S. SENATE SPECIAL GENERAL ELECTION 2017 STATEWIDE RESULTS

Total Ballots Cast: 1,132,826  Total Registered Voters: 3,326,812  Voter Turnout: 34.05%  Counties Reported: 66 of 67  Last Updated: 12/12/2017 09:56:44 PM
The election results presented on these pages are unofficial and presented as a courtesy of the Alabama Secretary of State and Alabama’s Probate Judges. The accuracy of the election results is the responsibility of the Probate Judge for each county reporting.

UNITED STATES SENATOR
        
Doug Jones (DEM)   49.01%.   553,931
Roy S. Moore (REP)   49.55%.   560,083
Write-In   1.44%.   16,271
   
1,130,285

The NY Times has it 639k to 629k for Jones.  Why are your vote totals so much lower?

[corbe]

The President is not mentally crippled @Victoria33

And, yes, Pence will be removed, too.  So be careful what you wish for.

    Your Trump Love is showing again @Right_in_Virginia and I, for one, am OK with that.
    I anxiously await his tweet about this at 5:20 AM EST.