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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #150 on: December 13, 2017, 03:33:40 am »
Here's what this means for the future.  If the swamp and the media can do this to Roy Moore in Alabama they can do it to anyone anywhere. There will be no more grassroots candidates win anywhere. If you don't get on your knees and kiss the right rings you can forget getting elected anywhere in this nation now.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #151 on: December 13, 2017, 03:33:52 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on December 13, 2017, 03:31:32 am
So!  Now that that's over...who wants to start a pool on what happens to these molesting charges against Moore?

In a few days you won't hear anymore about them....the MSM is after Trump now
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #152 on: December 13, 2017, 03:34:03 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on December 13, 2017, 03:31:32 am
So!  Now that that's over...who wants to start a pool on what happens to these molesting charges against Moore?

@corbe I think it's about time for a poll...first thing in the morning?
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #153 on: December 13, 2017, 03:34:39 am »
The voters of Alabama chose him, Moore in the primaries, the Wapo came in with their story. I'm not just going to saddle certain parties with blame, it looks like there is a lot to go around.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #154 on: December 13, 2017, 03:34:54 am »
Quote from: Mom MD on December 13, 2017, 03:29:36 am
Sure   You keep believing that.   If they don’t pass tax reform and significant reform at that they have no chance.  Even with tax reform they are in trouble.  I have been voting republican since 1980 and this may be the first election I sit out.  A pox on all their houses

IMHO this election was the canary in the mine for the GOP in the upcoming mid terms.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #155 on: December 13, 2017, 03:35:13 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on December 13, 2017, 03:33:52 am
In a few days you won't hear anymore about them....the MSM is after Trump now

Yup.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #156 on: December 13, 2017, 03:35:21 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on December 13, 2017, 03:32:34 am
I'll start.  It will turn out the women were molested by Trump.

@corbe One answer for your poll....
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #157 on: December 13, 2017, 03:36:00 am »
Quote from: kevindavis on December 13, 2017, 03:32:04 am

Why blame Mitch? Could it be that Roy was a S**t candidate...

You can get ready for this to be done to every GOP candidate they can. Every one will get the Herman Cain/Ted Cruz treatment.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #158 on: December 13, 2017, 03:36:02 am »
So, Fox didn't get their polling perfect but I guess, better than those who said Moore was going to win. I also heard earlier, the turnout was 25% of eligible voters. I'd blame the voters as much as anyone if this is so and the Dems were more energized.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #159 on: December 13, 2017, 03:36:08 am »
Sessions gave up this seat for NOTHING...He's done JACK SQUAT!
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #160 on: December 13, 2017, 03:36:17 am »
Quote from: txradioguy on December 13, 2017, 03:34:54 am
IMHO this election was the canary in the mine for the GOP in the upcoming mid terms.

The way the GOP has been acting, I don't much care if they lose.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #161 on: December 13, 2017, 03:36:46 am »
Now that the DEMS have won by way of sexual misconduct accusations they will continue to hound Trump and call for him to step down for sexual misconduct...the timing of the woman who has come forward (again) accusing Trump of groping is perfectly aligned with Jones' win.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #162 on: December 13, 2017, 03:36:56 am »
Quote from: kevindavis on December 13, 2017, 03:32:04 am
Could it be that Roy was a S**t candidate...

He was.  He never campaigned.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #163 on: December 13, 2017, 03:37:25 am »
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Sessions gave up this seat for NOTHING...He's done JACK SQUAT!

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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #164 on: December 13, 2017, 03:38:20 am »
Quote from: dfwgator on December 13, 2017, 03:36:08 am
Sessions gave up this seat for NOTHING...He's done JACK SQUAT!

This truth makes the Jones win so much more painful.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #165 on: December 13, 2017, 03:38:21 am »
Quote from: TomSea on December 13, 2017, 03:36:02 am
So, Fox didn't get their polling perfect but I guess, better than those who said Moore was going to win. I also heard earlier, the turnout was 25% of eligible voters. I'd blame the voters as much as anyone if this is so and the Dems were more energized.

If I were in Alabama I would have stayed home.  You can only hold your nose so long.  The dems win twice here.  They get the seat and they get to paint conservative Christians as sanctimonious nut jobs
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #166 on: December 13, 2017, 03:38:29 am »
Does this mean Al Franken does have to resign? 
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #167 on: December 13, 2017, 03:38:34 am »
The GOP rank & file drew the wrong conclusion from 2016.  Unless the other side sends up Hillary, you're going to lose a competitive race with a weak candidate.  And with Trump cratering like I expected, they are pretty well screwed for the midterms.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #168 on: December 13, 2017, 03:38:45 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on December 13, 2017, 03:30:33 am
Guess riding around on a horse isn't the winning strategy it was........back in 1877.


Well,  that 1% of the power of the Senate looks pretty powerful when the split between the two halves is ~ 50%

That 1% can sometimes control 100% of the result.   


Big forces wanted to make sure that 1% ended up under their control. 


I wanted to make that point to you before,  but I couldn't think of the proper way to phrase it to make the point clear.   
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #169 on: December 13, 2017, 03:38:48 am »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on December 13, 2017, 03:36:00 am
You can get ready for this to be done to every GOP candidate they can. Every one will get the Herman Cain/Ted Cruz treatment.

Absolutely right!  You can count on it!  May not be sex but you can bet your azz that they will find, or manufacture, something and spin it till they get the outcome they want!
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #170 on: December 13, 2017, 03:39:12 am »
Quote from: Bigun on December 13, 2017, 03:33:40 am
Here's what this means for the future.  If the swamp and the media can do this to Roy Moore in Alabama they can do it to anyone anywhere. There will be no more grassroots candidates win anywhere. If you don't get on your knees and kiss the right rings you can forget getting elected anywhere in this nation now.

The populist portion of the voter base will continue to nominate fringe candidates unable to win statewide election... but they won't blame themselves when Democrats take control again.

Remember this happening for Harry Reid?  He was extremely vulnerable but the voters put up Sharon Angle instead...

The good news is the Democrats are as dysfunctional as we are, but they can certainly unite in opposition to Trump.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #171 on: December 13, 2017, 03:39:29 am »
   Remember the good ol days back in 2014~'BT' (before Trump)?


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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #172 on: December 13, 2017, 03:39:36 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on December 13, 2017, 03:31:04 am
He may get his wish....better not lose the House or we will be covering impeachment proceedings in 2019


Who cares? Then we get Pence. He may be the better President anyway. I have no fear of impeachment.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #173 on: December 13, 2017, 03:39:37 am »
Last chance absentee votes... fingers crossed.
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Re: Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election
« Reply #174 on: December 13, 2017, 03:40:31 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on December 13, 2017, 03:31:32 am
So!  Now that that's over...who wants to start a pool on what happens to these molesting charges against Moore?


They will evaporate like the morning dew.   They were always just a tool to stop Trump.   
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