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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3250 on: April 19, 2026, 07:06:43 pm »
They make their own air - no vents to drop anything down.

Probably true, but they'll still need egress....
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3251 on: April 19, 2026, 08:03:33 pm »
Probably true, but they'll still need egress....

Yep, just make it a tomb.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3252 on: April 19, 2026, 08:16:34 pm »
Time's a ticking .... negotiations either need to be agreed to (big mistake) or -- the  U.S.  needs to resume their strikes.

Also -- how much longer does Trump have under the War Powers Act, though it is my understanding that the Senate voted to allow Trump to continue on -- so -- a vote by both House and Senate?  I'm not familiar with the process.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3253 on: April 19, 2026, 08:20:32 pm »
Time's a ticking .... negotiations either need to be agreed to (big mistake) or -- the  U.S.  needs to resume their strikes.

Also -- how much longer does Trump have under the War Powers Act, though it is my understanding that the Senate voted to allow Trump to continue on -- so -- a vote by both House and Senate?  I'm not familiar with the process.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3254 on: April 19, 2026, 08:31:07 pm »
He has 60days...from Feb 28th

Key Recent Developments:

    Senate Blocks Measure: The Senate rejected a resolution (47–52) attempting to limit President Trump’s war powers regarding Iran.

    House Failure: A House resolution aiming to curb military action against Iran failed, 213–214.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3255 on: April 19, 2026, 09:03:56 pm »
He has 60days...from Feb 28th

Key Recent Developments:

    Senate Blocks Measure: The Senate rejected a resolution (47–52) attempting to limit President Trump’s war powers regarding Iran.

    House Failure: A House resolution aiming to curb military action against Iran failed, 213–214.

Ok -- so April 28 is the deadline, which is a little over a week away.   He's giving them till the 22nd.

According to AI -- Once War Powers Resolution (WPR) timelines expire (60 days, or 90 with extension), the President must terminate the use of U.S. Armed Forces and withdraw troops unless Congress declares war, authorizes the specific action, or is physically unable to meet. The law requires immediate cessation of hostilities and removal of forces.

Though the resolutions favored the War Powers,  I don't know if the votes are going to be there to declare war?    Perhaps with Trump continuing to move the goal posts on negotiations, the April 28 deadline gives Trump a way out and he can blame Congress?? Likely Iran knows there's a deadline.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3256 on: April 19, 2026, 09:33:53 pm »
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🇮🇷 An unspeakable atrocity has just come to light. The whole world needs to know what is happening under these internet blackouts.

During the January massacre, IRGC demons shot and murdered Saleheh Akbari in front of her husband Ahmad Khodaei, inside their home.

Saleheh was a nurse, and had offered to help injured Iranians fleeing Basiji thugs. For this, their door was kicked down, and she was killed in front of her husband and 8 year old daughter after stepping in to protect him as he was being beaten up.

And from there, the nightmare only got worse.

They confiscated and raped her dead body at the morgue, taking pictures of what they were doing to her. Then they sent the images to her mortified husband, using her own lifeless hand to unlock her phone and call him.

After this, the regime subjected Ahmad to months of endless torment, threatening him to keep his mouth shut and even arresting him for visiting his wife's grave.

Ahmad took his daughter to her grandparents, because she kept asking for her mom and it broke him inside.

The regime began fabricating crimes against him and were planning to torture him for the rest of time. They refused to even let him grieve in peace.

The pain became too much to bear, and Ahmad has according to reports taken his own life, after announcing his intentions.

It has been 47 years of these barbaric atrocities happening every single day.

This is Iran under islamic occupation.

It was never about a nuclear deal or sanctions.



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The irony of you who has the the Star of David to post this is a bit laughable though considering the situation in Gaza.

In reality there is almost no morality in war, from either side. There is only death and destruction.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3257 on: April 19, 2026, 09:40:06 pm »
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To translate what he's suggesting into plain English:

Trump has two wags to end this war:
1. Humiliate the regime in Iran
2. Humiliate America and himself

Of course they are cheering for option 2.

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no he is correct, when is the last time a war was “won” without boots on the ground?


The Iranian leadership are not fighting for optics, they are fighting for their very survival as a dictatorship.  They have about 20 million hard supporters and are the ones in control of who has or does not have weapons.

There are 3 situations that will happen

1. Americans boots on the ground, with support from Persians.
2. America and the Iranian dictatorship come to an agreement
3. Civil war consumes Iran, probably resulting in millions of deaths and the displacement of many more millions.

The situation is complex as hell and this idea that some side is gonna win or lose like it’s a PlayStation game is for the birds.

America cannot afford another 5 trillion dollar war, Iran will not give up when 20 million support them.



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3258 on: April 19, 2026, 10:04:45 pm »
The irony of you who has the the Star of David to post this is a bit laughable though considering the situation in Gaza.

In reality there is almost no morality in war, from either side. There is only death and destruction.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3259 on: April 19, 2026, 10:34:50 pm »
no he is correct, when is the last time a war was “won” without boots on the ground?

Japan, 1945?


There are 3 situations that will happen

1. Americans boots on the ground, with support from Persians.
2. America and the Iranian dictatorship come to an agreement
3. Civil war consumes Iran, probably resulting in millions of deaths and the displacement of many more millions.

I'm thinking Option 3.


The situation is complex as hell and this idea that some side is gonna win or lose like it’s a PlayStation game is for the birds.

I'm not seeing anyone embracing that idea.


America cannot afford another 5 trillion dollar war, Iran will not give up when 20 million support them.

Another?  America has never fought a $5 trillion war.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3260 on: April 19, 2026, 10:37:06 pm »
The irony of you who has the the Star of David to post this is a bit laughable though considering the situation in Gaza.

How so?  Do you have examples there similar to the one described in that post?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3261 on: April 19, 2026, 10:44:18 pm »
The IRGC announces to the world what matters most to them - money from oil sales and their new toll booth.



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Iran’s First Vice President Mohammad Reza Aref warned early Monday that security in the Strait of Hormuz cannot be guaranteed if Iran’s oil exports remain restricted. - AA

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3262 on: April 19, 2026, 10:50:49 pm »
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Operation “Economic Fury” has been ongoing for 5+ days

Iran is losing at least $438 million per day per FDD

As I said before, the regime can only sustain this max for 30 days.

This week the squeeze is going to hit.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3264 on: April 19, 2026, 11:00:27 pm »
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Ship should have just turned around,
 if it’s trouble, it’s going to get exposed to the world.

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Iran: The vessel struck by U.S. forces was traveling from China to Iran

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3265 on: April 19, 2026, 11:13:16 pm »
The blockade is hurting Iran.  How do I know?  Because they are telling us:



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“The security of the Strait of Hormuz is not free. One cannot restrict Iran's oil exports while expecting free security for others.
The choice is clear: either a free oil market for all, or the risk of significant costs for everyone. Stability in global fuel prices depends on a guaranteed and lasting end to the economic and military pressure against Iran and its allies.”



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3267 on: April 19, 2026, 11:38:44 pm »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3268 on: Today at 02:28:47 am »
Iran remains at the top of the list of countries we bring people to the USA on the Diversified Visa Program.  Literally every year, Iran is number 1 or 2 since 9/11.  We are talking about thousands every year getting Greencards to come to the USA.  Therefore, the terrorist threat to the USA is real, and ever present with this many Iranians in the USA.

Why Trump has not put an end to this awful program is a mystery to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3269 on: Today at 04:56:30 am »
How so?  Do you have examples there similar to the one described in that post?
IDF  soldiers gay raped a guy and was caught on camera doing so.

Of course they got found not guilty but yea https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/12/israeli-military-top-lawyer-drops-charges-soldiers-palestinian-detainee-abuse-gaza.

Not to mention the 30+ dead women and  children who have been killed indiscriminately.

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« Reply #3270 on: Today at 08:11:38 am »
IDF  soldiers gay raped a guy and was caught on camera doing so.

Of course they got found not guilty but yea https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/12/israeli-military-top-lawyer-drops-charges-soldiers-palestinian-detainee-abuse-gaza.

Not to mention the 30+ dead women and  children who have been killed indiscriminately.

Point made.  Note though that neither the star in my icon nor the state of Israel supports that action.  Please let me know when those Basij monsters are put on trial by the government of Iran.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
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Pakistan peace talks uncertain after Iranian state media reports Tehran's refusal to participate

Iranian state media says Tehran has rejected taking part in peace talks with the U.S. in Pakistan, initially scheduled for Tuesday.

Vice President JD Vance is scheduled to travel to Pakistan on Monday envoy Steve Witkoff and President Donald Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner. The White House has not responded to reports of the Iranian withdrawal.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
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Iran vows retaliation after US seizes cargo ship: 'ARMED PIRACY'

Iranian officials vowed retaliation after the U.S. fired upon and seized an Iranian vessel in the Arabian Sea on Sunday.

Officials condemned the move as "armed piracy."

“We warn that the Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran will soon respond to and retaliate against this armed piracy by the US military," read a statement from Iran's Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3273 on: Today at 08:40:05 am »
Probably true, but they'll still need egress....

That's why they have heavy earth moving equipment in the tunnels - they are not stupid and have been preparing for just this possibility for 47 years, so they can dig out, as the surface teams dig down. The only egress they need is for launching missiles and drones from within a particular section of a tunnel in a complex of tunnels in one region of the installation, covering many square miles.
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« Reply #3274 on: Today at 08:41:49 am »
Yep, just make it a tomb.

Obviously that sentiment does not work in this case, or all the ordinance dropped would have eliminated all missile and drone threats.
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« Reply #3275 on: Today at 08:45:57 am »
Ok -- so April 28 is the deadline, which is a little over a week away.   He's giving them till the 22nd.

According to AI -- Once War Powers Resolution (WPR) timelines expire (60 days, or 90 with extension), the President must terminate the use of U.S. Armed Forces and withdraw troops unless Congress declares war, authorizes the specific action, or is physically unable to meet. The law requires immediate cessation of hostilities and removal of forces.

Though the resolutions favored the War Powers,  I don't know if the votes are going to be there to declare war?    Perhaps with Trump continuing to move the goal posts on negotiations, the April 28 deadline gives Trump a way out and he can blame Congress?? Likely Iran knows there's a deadline.

47 is about to resume negotiations again by sending the Pit Bull to Pakistan. Confusing everyone, or is he just running the clock out because the US has used up most of its munitions stockpiles?

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« Reply #3276 on: Today at 08:48:28 am »
The irony of you who has the the Star of David to post this is a bit laughable though considering the situation in Gaza.

In reality there is almost no morality in war, from either side. There is only death and destruction.


What situation? You mean where Hamas is refusing to give up its weapons? Or are you just the run of the mill anti-Semite?
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« Reply #3277 on: Today at 08:50:36 am »
no he is correct, when is the last time a war was “won” without boots on the ground?


The Iranian leadership are not fighting for optics, they are fighting for their very survival as a dictatorship.  They have about 20 million hard supporters and are the ones in control of who has or does not have weapons.

There are 3 situations that will happen

1. Americans boots on the ground, with support from Persians.
2. America and the Iranian dictatorship come to an agreement
3. Civil war consumes Iran, probably resulting in millions of deaths and the displacement of many more millions.

The situation is complex as hell and this idea that some side is gonna win or lose like it’s a PlayStation game is for the birds.

America cannot afford another 5 trillion dollar war, Iran will not give up when 20 million support them.

American cannot afford a nuclear strike. Or is money more precious than the lives that the strike would consume for you?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3278 on: Today at 09:06:06 am »
Pakistan peace talks uncertain after Iranian state media reports Tehran's refusal to participate

Iranian state media says Tehran has rejected taking part in peace talks with the U.S. in Pakistan, initially scheduled for Tuesday.

Vice President JD Vance is scheduled to travel to Pakistan on Monday envoy Steve Witkoff and President Donald Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner. The White House has not responded to reports of the Iranian withdrawal.
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Why is Trump so desperate for an agreement knowing the Iranian signatories will laugh as they tear it up?






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