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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3400 on: April 21, 2026, 12:21:54 pm »
He's keeping Rubio busy elsewhere.  Why?


I think he's got Rubio working on Cuba and Europe.
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« Reply #3401 on: April 21, 2026, 12:38:56 pm »
This 'ceasefire' is dragging on longer than the bad bunny halftime show.  Wake up Trump!

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« Reply #3402 on: April 21, 2026, 12:41:26 pm »
I think he's got Rubio working on Cuba and Europe.

Well, since Kushner is so great at negotiations why not have him over in the EU and Cuba and Rubio working on Iran?  Negotiations with Iran are far more critical.
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« Reply #3403 on: April 21, 2026, 12:46:30 pm »
Well, since Kushner is so great at negotiations why not have him over in the EU and Cuba and Rubio working on Iran?  Negotiations with Iran are far more critical.

It is more likely that Rubio doesn't agree with the game plan and doesn't want to be saddled with trying to make it work after the fact.
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« Reply #3404 on: April 21, 2026, 12:57:24 pm »
It is more likely that Rubio doesn't agree with the game plan and doesn't want to be saddled with trying to make it work after the fact.

Quite possibly, but Vance wasn't exactly onboard with striking Iran either. 
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« Reply #3405 on: April 21, 2026, 12:59:01 pm »
This 'ceasefire' is dragging on longer than the bad bunny halftime show.  Wake up Trump!

When you are able to accomplish what the US military has, in Venezuela and Iran, thus far...nobody needs to "wake up Trump".

It's to his credit that he's letting the agreed upon "ceasefire" expire before the bridges and utilities are destroyed...to show the world, the US power to the world.
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« Reply #3406 on: April 21, 2026, 01:00:30 pm »
It is more likely that Rubio doesn't agree with the game plan and doesn't want to be saddled with trying to make it work after the fact.

Or something as simple as Rubio knows the language of Cuba?    :shrug:
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3407 on: April 21, 2026, 01:03:55 pm »
Pakistan Talks In Peril As Iran Now Demands Lifting Blockade Of Its Ports, After US Navy Boarded Another Vessel

Islamabad meanwhile urges 2-week extension of ceasefire...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pakistan-tensely-awaits-next-round-talks-ceasefire-deadline-looms-us-navy-boards

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« Reply #3408 on: April 21, 2026, 01:09:11 pm »
When you are able to accomplish what the US military has, in Venezuela and Iran, thus far...nobody needs to "wake up Trump".

It's to his credit that he's letting the agreed upon "ceasefire" expire before the bridges and utilities are destroyed...to show the world, the US power to the world.


My fear is that Trump will get a useless agreement in Pakistan from people with no authority to back up the deal, declare "victory," and leave the Mad Mullahs in charge of Iran.  I call that a "loss" and it will cost Trump dearly in the midterms.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3409 on: April 21, 2026, 01:11:50 pm »
Pakistan Talks In Peril As Iran Now Demands Lifting Blockade Of Its Ports, After US Navy Boarded Another Vessel

Islamabad meanwhile urges 2-week extension of ceasefire...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pakistan-tensely-awaits-next-round-talks-ceasefire-deadline-looms-us-navy-boards

Let's hope Iran's recalcitrance saves Trump from himself.
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« Reply #3410 on: April 21, 2026, 01:16:00 pm »
Quite possibly, but Vance wasn't exactly onboard with striking Iran either.

Per the NY Slimes anonymous inside source who heard it from a friend of a gay friend who slept with somebody who knows what's what.
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« Reply #3411 on: April 21, 2026, 01:29:24 pm »
I think he's got Rubio working on Cuba and Europe.
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« Reply #3412 on: April 21, 2026, 01:30:23 pm »
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« Reply #3413 on: April 21, 2026, 01:31:38 pm »
My fear is that Trump will get a useless agreement in Pakistan from people with no authority to back up the deal, declare "victory," and leave the Mad Mullahs in charge of Iran.  I call that a "loss" and it will cost Trump US dearly in the midterms.

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« Reply #3414 on: April 21, 2026, 01:32:43 pm »
Just give Iran what they want and be done with it....you know that's what is going to happen..

...and I might add...then spin this *agreement* as a win for the US
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« Reply #3415 on: April 21, 2026, 01:34:19 pm »
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« Reply #3416 on: April 21, 2026, 01:35:33 pm »
The Iranian Regime is not negotiating in good faith.  They are running out the clock until the Wars Powers Act kicks in.  Delay, delay, delay, so the regime's friends, and Trump's enemies, in Congress can save the regimes' hides.
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« Reply #3418 on: April 21, 2026, 01:37:59 pm »
Just give Iran what they want and be done with it....you know that's what is going to happen..

That would be bad.  That turd can't be polished enough to look like a victory no matter what Trump says.  The MAGA movement would likely collapse!
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« Reply #3420 on: April 21, 2026, 01:41:36 pm »
Whoever advised Trump to start this with Iran, especially right before the midterms, thinking this would be as easy as Venezuela should be fired.
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« Reply #3421 on: April 21, 2026, 01:48:57 pm »
Whoever advised Trump to start this with Iran, especially right before the midterms, thinking this would be as easy as Venezuela should be fired.

That’s the million dollar question, isn’t it? Who is advising Trump these days?
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« Reply #3422 on: April 21, 2026, 01:52:41 pm »
Then do it already...you look like a fool...imo!

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Trump says he expects 'to be bombing' as ceasefire deadline looms, US military 'raring to go'

President Donald Trump said in a radio interview with CNBC on Tuesday morning that the U.S. was in a "very strong negotiating position" as the ceasefire deadline looms but expects to be bombing Iran again soon.

Asked whether he needs at least the prospects for a signed deal Tuesday or Wednesday or else he would resume bombing Iran, Trump responded, "Well, I expect to be bombing, because I think that's a better attitude to go in with."

"But, you know, we're ready to go. I mean, the military is raring to go. They are absolutely incredible,” Trump said. "We have the most powerful military in the world, and everybody knows it."

Trump said the U.S. blockade on Iranian ports has been a "tremendous success" regarding control of the Strait of Hormuz.

"Iran can get themselves on a very good footing if they make a deal. They can make themselves into a strong nation again, a wonderful nation again, they have incredible people. But they seem to be bloodthirsty. They're led by some very, very, unfortunately tough people," Trump said. "And I don't mean tough in a good way. I think it's very negative for the country because we're much tougher than they are. Like, not even close. But they have to use reason and they have to use common sense, and they can get themselves into a great position to make themselves into a great country, but a legitimate country, not a country based on death and horror.”

Trump told CNBC that the U.S. military has been restocking during the ceasefire.

"You know, they're trying to move the missiles because we've obliterated most of their missiles and they're trying to move their missiles around, even during the cease fire, which I think was a good thing because we're totally loaded up. We have so much ammo, we have so much of everything that we've like -- much, much more powerful than it was 4 or 5 weeks ago. So we've used this to restock, and they probably have done a little bit of restock," he said.

"And we caught a ship yesterday that had some things on it, which wasn't very nice. A gift from China, perhaps? I don't know, but I was a little surprised," Trump said about the capture of an Iranian-flagged cargo ship on Monday.
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« Reply #3423 on: April 21, 2026, 01:53:12 pm »
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Israel accuses Hezbollah of ‘blatant’ ceasefire violation

The Israel Defense Forces accused the Iran-backed terrorist group Hezbollah of violating the Israel-Lebanon ceasefire on Tuesday.

“Hezbollah launched several rockets toward IDF soldiers operating south of the Forward Defense Line, in the area of Rab Thalathin in southern Lebanon. In response, the IDF struck the launcher from which the rockets were launched,” the IDF said.

“The launches constitute a blatant violation of the ceasefire agreement,” it added.

President Donald Trump had announced a 10-day ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon last week.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3425 on: April 21, 2026, 02:02:45 pm »
I think he's got Rubio working on Cuba and Europe.

Or the whole "negotiations" thing is a sham, never intended to produce anything. Had Rubio been involved, then he would have produced results, and is keep away for that very reason.

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« Reply #3426 on: April 21, 2026, 02:07:50 pm »
Or the whole "negotiations" thing is a sham, never intended to produce anything. Had Rubio been involved, then he would have produced results, and is keep away for that very reason.

An alternative glance, offered for completeness sake.

Rubio would have come from Pakistan with an unenforceable agreement.  Same as JD Vance.
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« Reply #3427 on: April 21, 2026, 02:08:01 pm »

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What to me is troubling is that Trump has remarked that Iran has no choice but to meet with Vance in Pakistan.  ????  ....  and we'll wind up with a great deal.
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« Reply #3428 on: April 21, 2026, 02:11:35 pm »
The free flow of international maritime traffic through the Strait of Hormuz is the barometer of truth.  Until this happens, anything Trump says will be interpreted as vapid bluster.
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« Reply #3429 on: April 21, 2026, 02:13:48 pm »
What gets me is did they actually think their would be some kind of capitulation by Iran?...they have managed for 47 years to out-fox US administrations...Trump gives too long of a ceasefire....long enough for Iran to re-arm..who's idea was that??

Sorry I am just fed up and I just keep thinking of the families of the 13 soldiers...if I was a parent I would be seething with anger.
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« Reply #3430 on: April 21, 2026, 02:26:32 pm »
What gets me is did they actually think their would be some kind of capitulation by Iran?...they have managed for 47 years to out-fox US administrations...Trump gives too long of a ceasefire....long enough for Iran to re-arm..who's idea was that??

Sorry I am just fed up and I just keep thinking of the families of the 13 soldiers...if I was a parent I would be seething with anger.
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« Reply #3431 on: April 21, 2026, 02:29:19 pm »
I'm tired of the word "deal"...

There were no deals offered to the Nazis or the Japanese Imperialists.

Anything less than securing and removing the enriched uranium is a major failure.

Until the Islamist start dying in large numbers, they're not going to surrender it. Especially if they are close to completing their nuclear weapon. Time is on their side, not ours. Quit burning it.
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« Reply #3432 on: April 21, 2026, 02:30:51 pm »
What to me is troubling is that Trump has remarked that Iran has no choice but to meet with Vance in Pakistan.  ????  ....  and we'll wind up with a great deal.

He's starting to sound scary lost.   **nononono*

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« Reply #3433 on: April 21, 2026, 02:33:34 pm »
The free flow of international maritime traffic through the Strait of Hormuz is the barometer of truth.  Until this happens, anything Trump says will be interpreted as vapid bluster.

The, in that case, the 'barometer of truth" is controlled by a private insurance company, Lloyds of London.  Many shipping companies won't ship if they can't get insurance.
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« Reply #3434 on: April 21, 2026, 02:34:48 pm »
What gets me is did they actually think their would be some kind of capitulation by Iran?...they have managed for 47 years to out-fox US administrations...Trump gives too long of a ceasefire....long enough for Iran to re-arm..who's idea was that??

Sorry I am just fed up and I just keep thinking of the families of the 13 soldiers...if I was a parent I would be seething with anger.

When its your time, there is no way out. 13 deaths are unfortunate, but more service members die in accidents all the time. Getting angry will not bring them back. Most of us who have lost lots of people during out lives, losses due to being in the wrong place at someone else's command, know that.


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« Reply #3435 on: April 21, 2026, 02:34:52 pm »
What gets me is did they actually think their would be some kind of capitulation by Iran?...they have managed for 47 years to out-fox US administrations...Trump gives too long of a ceasefire....long enough for Iran to re-arm..who's idea was that??

Sorry I am just fed up and I just keep thinking of the families of the 13 soldiers...if I was a parent I would be seething with anger.

Trump went in with a mighty force of bombs and bunker busters ...Iran didn't blink.  Iran continued on.  Trump offered up a ceasefire ....again Iran didn't and hasn't blinked ....there is reason to be angry and there is reason to question what our situation truly is.

From what I've read, the bunker busters didn't do much -- Iran has a very complex  and fine-tuned underground military operation.  One area is hit, they simply open and use another while they dig out what was hit.  They've been preparing very well while the U.S. has been negotiating ... and in instances giving them money. Their undergroup operation probably can't be destroyed unless we have boots on the ground.
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« Reply #3436 on: April 21, 2026, 02:36:20 pm »
I'm tired of the word "deal"...

There were no deals offered to the Nazis or the Japanese Imperialists.

Anything less than securing and removing the enriched uranium is a major failure.

Until the Islamist start dying in large numbers, they're not going to surrender it. Especially if they are close to completing their nuclear weapon. Time is on their side, not ours. Quit burning it.

I'm tired of that word too.  I want an Unconditional Surrender!
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« Reply #3437 on: April 21, 2026, 02:38:42 pm »
I'm tired of the word "deal"...

EXACTLY!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3438 on: April 21, 2026, 02:43:24 pm »
Trump went in with a mighty force of bombs and bunker busters ...Iran didn't blink.  Iran continued on.  Trump offered up a ceasefire ....again Iran didn't and hasn't blinked ....there is reason to be angry and there is reason to question what our situation truly is.

From what I've read, the bunker busters didn't do much -- Iran has a very complex  and fine-tuned underground military operation.  One area is hit, they simply open and use another while they dig out what was hit.  They've been preparing very well while the U.S. has been negotiating ... and in instances giving them money. Their undergroup operation probably can't be destroyed unless we have boots on the ground.

The bottom line is it looks like Trump and crew miscalculated on what it would take to secure their enriched uranium. We've come to believe a war can be won by using sterile low casualty bombings tactics. If you want to win, the enemy has to suffer severely or they will not surrender. It isn't any more complicated than that. Either you have the will to do that or you will fail.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3439 on: April 21, 2026, 02:44:35 pm »
I'm tired of that word too.  I want an Unconditional Surrender!

Even IF Iran said that they were surrendering unconditionally, they cannot be trusted. 

Secondly, how many days would Trump give them to unconditionally surrender?
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« Reply #3442 on: April 21, 2026, 02:49:09 pm »
I pray that Vance doesn't leave the U.S.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3444 on: April 21, 2026, 02:58:11 pm »
Bombs away


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BREAKING: Israel and the US are "fully coordinated and ready for immediate resumption of war" with Iran, believing no deal will be reached, per a senior Israeli security official.

Israeli Air Force pilots have been told to prepare for "longer working hours," as CENTCOM commander Cooper visited Israel last week to approve joint strike plans and an extensive "target bank" including Iran's national and energy infrastructure.



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3445 on: April 21, 2026, 03:00:25 pm »
Do we need a thread #4...is it getting too heavy to load?
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« Reply #3446 on: April 21, 2026, 03:01:00 pm »
Do we need a thread #4...is it getting too heavy to load?
Yes

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3448 on: April 21, 2026, 03:11:31 pm »

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/2046663521774264720

So far ...  Iran's hasn't flinched.  Anyone think that they're bluffing?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #3449 on: April 21, 2026, 03:13:47 pm »
So far ...  Iran's hasn't flinched.  Anyone think that they're bluffing?
Who is they?  The government (or what's left of it), or the military?