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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1550 on: June 06, 2025, 08:31:03 am »


There may be 2 Russian nuclear submarines either destroyed or damaged as a result of the June 20 drone strike.
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« Reply #1551 on: June 06, 2025, 08:52:45 am »
Reporting From Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/@RFU/videos

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Offensive Cancelled! Massive Build-up Struck with HIMARS!

Today [ June 5 ], there are a lot of important updates from the Sumy direction. Here, along the Sumy border, Ukrainian forces lured Russian units into counterattacks and then traced their movements back to hidden staging grounds across Kursk. With their positions exposed, HIMARS batteries struck hard, delivering devastating blows to troop concentrations, command posts, and infrastructure critical to Russia’s planned offensive. Over 50,000 Russian troops have been deployed to the Kursk region along the northern border with Sumy, signaling clear preparations for a full-scale offensive. Ukrainian commanders in the area have confirmed the buildup, noting that these forces are being readied for large-scale operations aimed at breaching the Sumy region’s defenses. The massive Russian forces concentration here underscores their conviction that they can still achieve victory through overwhelming manpower and renewed offensives.

To neutralize this threat as much as possible, Ukrainians needed to eliminate these large forces concentrations before they had the opportunity to move to the frontline. To accomplish this, Ukrainians launched attacks on the eastern flank of Tyotkino to force a Russian redeployment and draw forces away from the town itself. By threatening a potential outflank, they put pressure on Russian positions while conducting swift rotations to keep fresh troops and equipment on the front line ... As Russian troops rushed forward to plug gaps and prevent a Ukrainian breakthrough, many were eliminated by FPV drone strikes ... Ukrainians traced these movements, revealing the locations of Russian troop concentrations and command posts, opening the door for devastating Ukrainian strikes.

This critical intelligence allowed HIMARS crews to lock in their targets and strike several Russian military bases simultaneously. Footage confirms that Ukraine hit 2 Russian deployment points in Lgov and Rylsk, as local residents report large numbers of casualties among Russian soldiers being taken away in the aftermath ... one of the victims of the recent strikes was the deputy commander of 155th Marine Brigade, who was reportedly eliminated by a precision strike on his command post in Rylsk ... Ukrainians are already draining Russian reserves even before they can launch their offensive. They are disrupting Russian preparations and inflicting losses, further limiting what they can achieve. If Russians redeploy their forces further to the rear to try and stay undetected, these forces will not be able to respond quickly to sudden breakthroughs or Ukrainian assaults. This gives Russians a painstakingly tough dilemma, either Russians will have to station their forces much further to the rear, or they must take the blows dealt to them by Ukrainian strike teams, betting on their numbers being enough to still make a breakthrough, despite the heavy damage.

Overall, the Ukrainians managed to lure the Russians to expose their forces in the open to discover their critical infrastructure, resulting in a series of devastating precision strikes. Intensification of Ukrainian assaults in Tyotkino incursion will inevitably leave Russians with no other option but to deploy more forces to this area, exposing further forces concentration points to Ukrainian observation and strike teams. As Ukrainians continue to scout behind Russian lines, additional strikes seem inevitable. Furthermore, as Russians suffer logistical strains by deploying and concentrating so many troops, any movement will be nearly impossible to hide.

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Re: Ukraine 6
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« Reply #1553 on: June 06, 2025, 11:54:10 am »
Bean-counting

Featured video link below is a highly detailed photographic counting of the planes, using serial numbers where possible

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https://xxtomcooperxx.substack.com/p/bean-counting

Good article.  As for the A-50s, the entire Russian air force had only two that were operational, and one of those was recently given to North Korea.  So the efforts to target the only operational A-50 left in all of Russia was definitely a high risk proposition for success.  Overall though, this was a wildly successful operation.  Planes are most vulnerable on the ground.  And the Ukrainians took full advantage of that in a truly groundbreaking operation.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1554 on: June 06, 2025, 11:58:54 am »
The massive Russian forces concentration here underscores their conviction that they can still achieve victory through overwhelming manpower and renewed offensives.

To neutralize this threat as much as possible, Ukrainians needed to eliminate these large forces concentrations before they had the opportunity to move to the frontline. To accomplish this, Ukrainians launched attacks on the eastern flank of Tyotkino to force a Russian redeployment and draw forces away from the town itself. By threatening a potential outflank, they put pressure on Russian positions while conducting swift rotations to keep fresh troops and equipment on the front line ... As Russian troops rushed forward to plug gaps and prevent a Ukrainian breakthrough, many were eliminated by FPV drone strikes ... Ukrainians traced these movements, revealing the locations of Russian troop concentrations and command posts, opening the door for devastating Ukrainian strikes.

This critical intelligence allowed HIMARS crews to lock in their targets and strike several Russian military bases simultaneously. Footage confirms that Ukraine hit 2 Russian deployment points in Lgov and Rylsk, as local residents report large numbers of casualties among Russian soldiers being taken away in the aftermath ...

This attack would not have been allowed if Biden were still in office.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1555 on: June 06, 2025, 12:32:09 pm »
This attack would not have been allowed if Biden were still in office.

Nor would it have been allowed if 47 was informed about it. Ukraine is more or less forbidden to attack inside Russia with any sort of significant blow. But Russia is accommodated for their murderous strikes on Ukrainian civilians; taking out those means is too much for 47 to bear, so he lowers Ukraine from its former position to an enemy. Perhaps 47 will finally cut off Ukraine from all US military assistance - you never know, he's so erratic.
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« Reply #1556 on: June 06, 2025, 12:51:53 pm »
Nor would it have been allowed if 47 was informed about it. Ukraine is more or less forbidden to attack inside Russia with any sort of significant blow.

I disagree.  Trump has removed the restrictions placed on Ukraine by the Biden regime.  Under Trump, Ukraine is free to strike Russian territory with HIMARS and ATACMS missiles.  Under Biden, Ukraine would not have been allowed to use US weapons to strike these troop concentrations in Kursk.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1557 on: June 06, 2025, 01:15:11 pm »
I disagree.  Trump has removed the restrictions placed on Ukraine by the Biden regime.  Under Trump, Ukraine is free to strike Russian territory with HIMARS and ATACMS missiles.  Under Biden, Ukraine would not have been allowed to use US weapons to strike these troop concentrations in Kursk.

HIMARS and ATACMS are not striking significant blows, just tactical ones. The 06/20 strike was a significant strategic blow and is not permitted by 47. If you only hit your enemy with tactical strikes, you will never defeat the enemy. Only strategic strikes hold the promise of vanquishing your foe.

So 47 is restricting what Ukraine can do to drive Russia out of its country, to keep them from murdering their civilians - the war is a problem restricting 47's view of doing business. Throttling Ukraine is one way to ensure Russia gets what it demands and ends the war. But, of course, it will not, as Putin has made no bones about taking the rest of Europe and NATO be dammed.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1558 on: June 06, 2025, 01:47:51 pm »

ROLLING THUNDER Putin plotting ‘final killer offensive’ to attack Ukraine on 3 fronts to win war – even as his losses near ONE MILLION

The Sun
James Halpin
6 Jun 2025



VLADIMIR Putin is plotting a final killer offensive along three fronts to win the war, a new report claims.

It comes as the Russian army nears one million casualties in its bungled three-year-old invasion and peace talks stall.

The tyrant is still looking for a knockout blow despite initially saying he would win the war in a matter of days.

Putin is hoping to reverse his battlefield fortunes this summer, with a widely expected fresh offensive to begin.

Some 125,000 Russian soldiers are reportedly right now massing along the Sumy and Kharkiv frontiers, according to Ukraine's military intelligence.

Over the past fortnight border villages have fallen to Russia as it is may to be preparing the ground for the offensive.

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https://www.thesun.ie/news/15328568/putin-summer-offensive-ukraine-war/
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« Reply #1559 on: June 06, 2025, 03:02:55 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1560 on: June 06, 2025, 06:17:18 pm »
Reporting From Ukraine:
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Russia Collapses in Complete Drone Hysteria as Ukraine Targets Their Airbases Again

Today [ June 6 ], there is important news from the Russian Federation. Here, Ukraine exploited the chaos after its devastating Operation Spiderweb and targeted more Russian airfields with long-range drones, while the Russians were too busy to check every truck on their road network because of the paranoia that more Ukrainian drones may pop out at any moment ... Operation Spiderweb destroyed a 3rd of Russia's strategic bomber fleet in a single coordinated drone strike on multiple airbases deep inside enemy territory. Satellite imagery continues to surface, raising the number of confirmed losses and solidifying the operation as an unparalleled success in modern military history, with some analysts drawing comparison to how nuclear bombs changed the way wars can play out ... Capitalizing swiftly on the chaos and panic gripping the Russian defense systems, Ukraine quickly unleashed further drone assaults on key Russian airfields ... overnight drone strikes targeted military airbases in Borisoglebsk and Tikhoretsk. In Tikhoretsk, newly constructed hangars were set ablaze, suggesting damage or destruction of aircraft concealed inside. Meanwhile, the Borisoglebsk airbase experienced a particularly heavy drone barrage, leading to confirmed fatalities among Russian Air Force personnel.

Though Russian officials hastily assured the public that no aircraft were harmed in the attack, the human casualties represent severe losses, as training pilots and air force personnel, particularly instructors, takes years and substantial resources, deepening Russia’s military setbacks. The aftermath of Operation Spiderweb extended well beyond physical destruction, dramatically impacting Russian domestic logistics and economy, due to unprecedented paranoia about possible further truck-based drone attacks. Russian authorities, gripped by panic and desperate to prevent further humiliating strikes, now view nearly every truck as a potential threat. Across Russia, widespread checkpoints and roadblocks have been hastily established, resulting in kilometers-long traffic jams of trucks awaiting rigorous inspections. Videos circulating online illustrate hundreds of immobilized trucks, indicating that Russia’s extensive and crucial domestic road transport network is grinding to a halt.

 ... the sheer scale of Russia and its heavy reliance on road transport suggests a prolonged paralysis that will almost certainly disrupt critical supply chains, harming economic productivity for weeks to come. This will also lead to delays in military logistics, which will hurt Russia's summer offensive in Ukraine ... Russia’s internal response has devolved into a frenzied search for scapegoats. Prominent Russian media figures and military analysts were humiliated by the effectiveness of the Ukrainian operation. Additionally, the blame and anger fell on the role ordinary citizens and conscripts played in documenting and circulating results and evidence of the attacks online by posting footage of the strikes. These videos not only boosted Ukrainian morale, but also provided vital intelligence, allowing Ukraine to assess the precision and success of their strikes and to plan even more devastating future operations.

This frenzied climate has triggered widespread arrests, as Russian security services desperately detain anyone remotely connected to the strikes. Notably, a couple accused of owning one of the warehouses used to stage the drone attacks has already been arrested. Another individual, a truck driver involved in transporting a Ukrainian drone container, claimed ignorance, asserting he was simply instructed to meet someone at a location. Panic and hysteria during the operation spiraled so much out of control that another truck driver was brutally killed by an angry mob, highlighting the volatile and dangerous situation rapidly unfolding within Russian society with each Ukrainian success. Overall, though Operation Spiderweb formally concluded, it continues to profoundly destabilize Russia, creating further tactical and strategic opportunities for Ukraine. The initial operation ignited panic across Russia, which Ukrainian forces promptly exploited through timely follow-up drone strikes, delivering additional damage to Russian airfields. Meanwhile, Russia remains preoccupied, hunting feverishly for additional hidden threats in trucks spread across its vast territory. With Russian society descending into paranoia and uncertainty it remains unclear when and where Ukraine's next surprise attack will occur, ensuring that Russia's strategic leadership remains in confusion and dread

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Civilians targeted in Lutsk by hypersonic missile.


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452 missiles and drones targeting Ukrainian civilians in one day.


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« Reply #1573 on: Today at 03:00:10 am »

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1930997973397233817

@Hoodat can you explain to me what this is... a waiting line to get into occupied areas ? Perhaps they expect smuggling weapons? I just don't follow sorry... 
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« Reply #1574 on: Today at 06:35:10 am »
@Hoodat can you explain to me what this is... a waiting line to get into occupied areas ? Perhaps they expect smuggling weapons? I just don't follow sorry...

The Russians are in a panic after the 06/20 deep strike which used trucks to transport and launch the drones that took out a significant portion of their bomber fleet and radar planes. One truck driver was beaten to death just because ... truck drivers are among the ordinary Russians being blamed for the attack. Now all trucks across Russia are being stopped and intensely searched just in case one has a fleet of Ukrainian drones inside.
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« Reply #1575 on: Today at 06:50:47 am »
Here is Russia's plan for their offensive by the end of next year:



Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 6, 2025

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A senior Ukrainian official reported that the Russian military intends to seize half of Ukraine by the end of 2026. Russian forces are highly unlikely to be able to make such large advances in such a narrow time frame, given Russia's current offensive capabilities and assuming that the flow of Western aid to Ukraine continues. ... Russia likely seeks to seize the full extent of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts by September 1, 2025, and create a buffer zone along the northern Ukrainian-Russian border by the end of 2025 ... Russia intends to occupy the entirety of Ukraine on the east (left) bank of the Dnipro River and seize Odesa and Mykolaiv oblasts by the end of 2026, depriving Ukraine of access to the Black Sea... the map suggests that Russia intends to seize roughly 222,700 additional square kilometers of Ukrainian territory and hold a total of 336,300 square kilometers by the end of 2026 - almost double the roughly 162,000 total square kilometers that Russia held as of the first month of Russia's initial full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022. The total area of Ukraine is roughly 603,500 square kilometers ... The rate of Russian advance as depicted by the map also appears to assume that Russian forces will be able to fight through the Kostyantynivka-Kramatorsk-Slovyansk fortress belt - a series of fortified cities that form the backbone of Ukraine's defensive positions in Donetsk Oblast - at a rate never demonstrated by Russian forces at any point during Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Russian forces have not fought through a comparable town since Russian forces engaged in a year-long and pyrrhic effort to seize Bakhmut that ended in May 2023

The Russian military is likely unable to achieve its purported 2026 objectives, given the significant manpower and materiel losses Russian forces have sustained over the last three years of war and the Russian forces’ inability to achieve operational maneuver on the battlefield ... Russian forces would only be able to achieve these reported operational objectives if the situation along the frontline changes dramatically in the near future, such as Russia suddenly restoring operational maneuver or the sudden collapse of Ukrainian defensive lines. ISW previously assessed that delays in Western aid provision to Ukraine in 2023 and 2024 provided Russian forces with sufficient leverage to regain the battlefield initiative and make operationally significant gains, and that the Kremlin is currently engaged in an effort aimed at convincing the West that Russian victory in Ukraine is inevitable and that the West should abandon supporting Ukraine

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Less that 5,000 to go - so June 13-14 Russia will hit one million casualties & potentially 500,000 dead, according to new casualty rate estimates.
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« Reply #1577 on: Today at 07:29:55 am »
one million casualties & potentially 500,000 dead

That sounds like too much ... using the standard 3:1 injured/killed ratio, Russian deaths would be about 240-250,000, which is closer to the actual numbers (consistently about 6000 Russian troops killed every month since the war began, and we're now 40 months in).

Still horrific numbers for what Putin thought would be a "simple, 1-week conquest" ... the price of having a stupid dictator in charge ... may that evil entity known as Russia get ground down even more!!

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« Reply #1578 on: Today at 08:56:14 am »
That sounds like too much ... using the standard 3:1 injured/killed ratio, Russian deaths would be about 240-250,000, which is closer to the actual numbers (consistently about 6000 Russian troops killed every month since the war began, and we're now 40 months in).

Still horrific numbers for what Putin thought would be a "simple, 1-week conquest" ... the price of having a stupid dictator in charge ... may that evil entity known as Russia get ground down even more!!

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Take it up with ISW. Its their estimate posted up thread. There is nothing standard about kill ratios in this war  - the 1/3 rule is based on US losses in Afghan and Iraq; in neither of those wars were meat waves used, here it has been standard Russian practice, now their doctrine.
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« Reply #1579 on: Today at 09:11:04 am »
in neither of those wars were meat waves used, here it has been standard Russian practice, now their doctrine

Good reply! With all of the Kremlin dictatorship's secrecy (especially about failures!) it could very well be the truth.

And, Prigozin himself was the one who described the front as "a meatgrinder" (before Putin whacked him).

Would love to see it be true!
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« Reply #1580 on: Today at 03:04:23 pm »
The Russians are in a panic after the 06/20 deep strike

I notice a lot of people calling the June 2nd drone attack 'the 6/20' attack.

May I ask why?
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« Reply #1581 on: Today at 04:06:25 pm »
@Hoodat can you explain to me what this is... a waiting line to get into occupied areas ? Perhaps they expect smuggling weapons? I just don't follow sorry...

@Sighlass , this is a queue of trucks waiting to cross the Chonhar Strait into Crimea (slightly above map center).  There are only three motor routes into occupied Crimea - one is the main road from Kherson.  The other two are across the Kerch Strait and the Chonhar Strait.



Routing from Russia, only the last two are available.  And with last week's strike on the Kerch bridge, all trucks to and from Russia must now be routed over the Chonhar Strait.  That creates one tight bottleneck.  It also provides a point to monitor all trucks entering and leaving Crimea.  So these trucks in the photo are lined up awaiting to be searched by Russian authorities at the crossing.  Consider it an extra benefit of the drone attacks on the airbases.
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If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

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