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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1600 on: June 08, 2025, 01:41:00 am »
@Sighlass , this is a queue of trucks waiting to cross the Chonhar Strait into Crimea (slightly above map center).  There are only three motor routes into occupied Crimea - one is the main road from Kherson.  The other two are across the Kerch Strait and the Chonhar Strait.



Routing from Russia, only the last two are available.  And with last week's strike on the Kerch bridge, all trucks to and from Russia must now be routed over the Chonhar Strait.  That creates one tight bottleneck.  It also provides a point to monitor all trucks entering and leaving Crimea.  So these trucks in the photo are lined up awaiting to be searched by Russian authorities at the crossing.  Consider it an extra benefit of the drone attacks on the airbases.

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« Reply #1601 on: June 08, 2025, 03:22:42 am »
All of those trucks lined up in one big handy row look like a group of targets that need to be serviced.  tipping hat!!
A couple of A-10 gun runs would take care of that... :shrug:
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« Reply #1602 on: June 08, 2025, 06:39:44 am »
Okay and thank you for your explanation. I was wondering if there was something going on that I didn't know about because I am seeing this on other sites too.
I just went back and looked fro the actual date - it was June 1st!
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« Reply #1603 on: June 08, 2025, 06:57:32 am »
A couple of A-10 gun runs would take care of that... :shrug:

A-10 is vastly overrated for anything other than CAS. To take the trucks out in one run, please ring up Mr. AC-130J Ghostrider, who notably once made a visit in similar situation to the detriment of some 200-500 Russian Wagners in Iraq.

While the AC-130 can hit from miles away at 5000 feet, unlike the up close A-10, both require air superiority to survive the mission - not a condition found over Crimea.
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« Reply #1604 on: June 08, 2025, 07:38:42 am »
Reporting From Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/@RFU/videos

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Russia’s Key Munitions Network Shattered!

Today [ June 7 ], there are a lot of interesting updates from the Russian Federation. Here, Ukrainian forces have begun targeting not just the Russian military equipment, but the factories that produce them - deep in the industrial core of the country. By striking key munitions plants responsible for explosives, bomb kits, and artillery components, they’ve set off a chain reaction that could choke Russia’s ability to sustain its summer offensive. The goal of the Ukrainians here is to prevent the Russians from rebuilding their ammunition stockpiles after the latest destruction of the large Grau artillery arsenal in Vladimir Oblast. The success of this attack led to the destruction of up to 264,000 tons of drone, artillery, and missile stockpiles, equating to at least half a year of Russian munitions production.

... Ukrainians commenced a devastating series of precision drone strikes, starting with strikes on the Bazalt military-industrial complex in Moscow ... Bazalt is a key Russian defense enterprise, specializing in the design, development, and production of a wide range of munitions for the entire Russian army. Most notably, this plant produces high-explosive and thermobaric FAB glide bombs, which are equipped with guidance kits that are used for frontline and rear strikes by the Russian Air Force. ... Russian assault tactics are heavily dependent on glide bomb strikes to destroy detected Ukrainian positions. ... Ukrainian drones attacked the Murom Instrumentation Plant in the Vladimir region, 670 kilometers away from the front. The attack resulted in devastating fire that engulfed the warehouse storing finished materials, while damaging the factory administration building, and a factory building where explosives are synthesized got severely damaged. ... the electronic warfare systems in place at the factory were completely ineffective at repelling the drone strike, indicating that Ukraine is implementing AI targeting software more widely in its long-range strike drones as well. The plant is known in Russia for producing explosive ignition systems, including caps and primers for various types of ammunition used by the Russian military.

Subsequently, the Ukrainians struck the Sverdlov State Enterprise in Dzerzhinsk, nearly 800 kilometers from the frontline, one of the most critical Russian military industrial plants. The plant ... is the sole producer of high explosives hexogen and octogen, which are essential to produce artillery shells, ballistic missiles, anti-tank guided missiles, glide bombs, and air defense missiles ... the final target of Ukrainian strikes was the Azot chemical plant in Novomoskovsk in the Tula region, 350 kilometers from the front, causing a massive fire that left a significant part of the factory badly damaged. The chemicals produced at Azot, ammonium nitrate, methanol, and argon, are key components in explosives, the production of rocket fuel, welding, and heat treatment of metals used in Russian weapon systems.

The Murom Instrument-Making Plant, NPO Bazalt, Azot Tula Plant and the Sverdlov Plant form a critical link in Russia’s munitions supply chain, producing fusses, warheads, hard materials, and explosive compounds. Together, they enable the mass production of artillery shells, guided bombs, and missiles heavily used in Russia’s war on Ukraine, and critical for the Russian summer offensive to succeed. Continued disruption of these facilities ... will significantly impair Russia’s ability to sustain high-intensity combat operations. Overall, the Ukrainians conducted precision strikes at most critical parts of the Russian military industrial complex, responsible for producing essential materials for nearly all Russian equipment - ranging from artillery to aerial bombs. Such major sabotages ... take months to rebuild. Ammunition shortages force the Russians to slow down their attacks and fire at lower rates, making breakthroughs more difficult, and allowing the Ukrainians to better sustain the pressure; which is of immeasurable value with the Russians going all-in for their summer offensive.

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« Reply #1605 on: June 08, 2025, 07:45:45 am »


3 days from 1,000,000 Russian casualties ...
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« Reply #1606 on: June 08, 2025, 10:56:49 am »
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« Reply #1607 on: June 08, 2025, 10:58:05 am »
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« Reply #1608 on: June 08, 2025, 10:59:42 am »
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« Reply #1609 on: June 08, 2025, 11:06:31 am »
Lukoil refinery in Nizhny Novgorod



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« Reply #1610 on: June 08, 2025, 06:25:53 pm »
Ukraine breaks out a new underwater weapon; Russian analists worried

Reporting From Ukraine:
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Crimean Bridge Was a Decoy! Russians Brace for The Real Strike!

Today [ June 8 ], there are a lot of interesting updates from the Sea of Japan. Here, after Ukraine’s audacious underwater drone strike on the Kerch Bridge, Russian analysts have begun sounding the alarm over the possibility of an even more devastating follow-up. To them, the Kerch operation wasn’t just a spectacular success - it looked like a rehearsal for something far more dangerous, aimed at Russia’s most sensitive naval bases in the Far East ... the Ukrainian Security Service carried out another stunning strike.

... Ukrainians hit the underwater support structure of the Kerch bridge. The estimated 1,100 kg explosion detonated around 10m deep, making the damage more difficult to assess and repair. Notably, Ukraine announced the strike by releasing footage taken from a Russian security camera, showing how deeply infiltrated Ukrainian intelligence services are in Russian networks ... Ukrainians used a new variant of underwater naval drone, the Toloka 1,000 or the Toloka 400. These new underwater drones, upgrades of the Toloka 150, can deliver between half a ton and 5 tons of explosives at a range of 1,000km to 2,000km, respectively. The drones can operate at a depth of up to 40m. Their compact design and quiet propulsion systems make them ideal for covert sabotage missions against high-value Russian naval and logistics infrastructure.

However, Russian analysts note that Ukraine could have used multiple Toloka drones in sequence to breach defenses and collapse the bridge ... this was therefore not the main strike, but rather a field test of upgraded underwater drone capabilities ...Now, with new and upgraded underwater drones in play, Russian analysts started raising the alarm that the Pacific naval assets are under imminent threat ... are worried that to hit Russia’s Far East, Ukrainians could realistically use container ships laden with concealed naval drones. The Ukrainians operate a large fleet of merchant vessels, including container ships. These are more difficult to regulate and inspect, making it easier to smuggle the underwater drones in them ...

Once the container ships enter the Sea of Japan, the Sea of Okhotsk, or even dock in Russian ports, they would already be within range of releasing underwater drones, with the Toloka 1,000 having a range of 2,000km at the least. Ukraine could launch these drones from the deck, or through an underwater configuration comparable to a torpedo launch. The targets would be the Russian naval bases in Vladivostok and on the Kamchatka Peninsula ... The base in Kamchatka houses Russia’s nuclear submarines ... one of Russia’s most secure facilities. With the Toloka 1,000 having a maximum payload of up to 5 tons, 10 times higher than conventional torpedoes ... Ukrainians could hit and sink several ships with only 1 drone.

... it would bring the war to the Russian home front in a way never seen before. Additionally, it would undermine Russia's ability to defend itself in a broader sense, eroding the Russian nuclear triad even further ... Such an operation would exponentially magnify the pressure on Russia to seek a realistic negotiated peace settlement, as the Ukrainian Istanbul delegation already noted how, after the launch of Operation Spiderweb, their Russian counterparts were much less hostile than before. Overall, Ukraine’s strike on the Kerch Bridge fits into a broader, coordinated campaign, seemingly without range limitations. It marks the start of a new phase in long-range underwater warfare, with upgraded Toloka drones now capable of reaching over 2,000 kilometers. Russian analysts openly worry this was only a trial run and that Ukraine's real targets lie in the Pacific where Russian nuclear submarines and warships sit vulnerable in a false sense of security. As the pressure mounts and the reach of Ukraine's unconventional operations expands Ukraine is actively undermining Russia's domestic and international projection of strength and invincibility.

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« Reply #1611 on: June 08, 2025, 10:25:25 pm »
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« Reply #1617 on: June 09, 2025, 12:37:10 pm »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 8, 2025

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Russian officials appear to be setting conditions to withdraw from international arms control treaties, likely as part of preparation for a potential future war with NATO. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov claimed in an interview with Kremlin newswire TASS published on June 7 that Russia's “unilateral moratorium” on the deployment of land-based missiles prohibited under the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty is nearing its “logical conclusion,” suggesting that Russia may openly deploy such missiles in the future.

 Ryabkov also claimed that the United States and its Western allies did not appreciate or reciprocate Russia's “restraint” following the United States’ withdrawal from the INF Treaty in 2019. Ryabkov's claim that Russia has continued to abide by the INF Treaty since the US withdrawal are false. The United States suspended its participation in the INF Treaty on February 1, 2019 and withdrew from the treaty in August 2019 due to Russia's development, testing, and deployment of intermediate-range 9M729 (SSC-8) missiles in violation of the treaty.

Russia suspended its participation in the INF Treaty in response to the US suspension on February 2, 2019. Ryabkov's allegations of Russia's continued adherence to the treaty are likely part of the Kremlin's ongoing efforts to falsely portray itself as a genuine participant in de-escalation efforts and to portray the West and NATO as threats to Russia's security. The Kremlin may leverage the war in Ukraine to renounce its participation in other international arms control treaties as it prepares for a larger confrontation with the West.


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« Reply #1618 on: June 09, 2025, 01:21:50 pm »


Less than 3,000 to go to hit the June goal of one million Russian casualties in this pointless war!

Come on, Russia! You can do it! Just a couple more futile meatwave attacks and you'll be there!  wink777
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« Reply #1619 on: June 09, 2025, 01:23:23 pm »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 8, 2025

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Russian officials appear to be setting conditions to withdraw from international arms control treaties, likely as part of preparation for a potential future war with NATO. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov claimed in an interview with Kremlin newswire TASS published on June 7 that Russia's “unilateral moratorium” on the deployment of land-based missiles prohibited under the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty is nearing its “logical conclusion,” suggesting that Russia may openly deploy such missiles in the future.

 Ryabkov also claimed that the United States and its Western allies did not appreciate or reciprocate Russia's “restraint” following the United States’ withdrawal from the INF Treaty in 2019. Ryabkov's claim that Russia has continued to abide by the INF Treaty since the US withdrawal are false. The United States suspended its participation in the INF Treaty on February 1, 2019 and withdrew from the treaty in August 2019 due to Russia's development, testing, and deployment of intermediate-range 9M729 (SSC-8) missiles in violation of the treaty.

Russia suspended its participation in the INF Treaty in response to the US suspension on February 2, 2019. Ryabkov's allegations of Russia's continued adherence to the treaty are likely part of the Kremlin's ongoing efforts to falsely portray itself as a genuine participant in de-escalation efforts and to portray the West and NATO as threats to Russia's security. The Kremlin may leverage the war in Ukraine to renounce its participation in other international arms control treaties as it prepares for a larger confrontation with the West.


https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-8-2025

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« Reply #1620 on: June 09, 2025, 01:46:50 pm »
Kremlin snuffbox, 06/09/25

Many people asked: where did Patrushev disappear to?

Aide to the President of the Russian Federation, Chairman of the Russian Maritime Collegium Nikolai Patrushev announced that Vladimir Putin approved the Strategy for the Development of the Russian Navy for the period up to 2050. This is actually one of the tasks that Nikolai Platonovich has been working on over the past year.

Sources familiar with the document say it is comprehensive and includes all the key trends in the situation at sea, as well as information on geopolitical changes in general. Much attention is paid to the Arctic, [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/4337 { see below } ] the struggle for which is happening before our eyes.

The need to find new solutions to regain influence in the Black Sea is also discussed separately. Including by returning some of the ships from Novorossiysk to Sevastopol. But for this, it is necessary to strengthen the defense of the Crimean Peninsula, including from sea drones. The best defense would be to take control of the Odessa region and restrict Ukraine's access to the sea.

In addition, the document talks about finding mechanisms to influence Turkey in this region. Which not only has its own fleet, but also controls the passage through the Bosphorus. And at the same time, it is increasing its influence in the region.

In general, the preparation of the document lays the foundation for changes in the fleet caused by the development of new technologies and changes in the doctrine of using both the unmanned component and the frigates, large landing ships and boats that we are accustomed to.

By the way, we recommend reading Nikolai Patrushev's interview, which will be published on the website and in the latest issue of the weekly "Arguments and Facts" [ https://aif.ru/politics/russia/strategicheskaya-glubina-patrushev-nazval-novye-celi-dlya-rossiyskogo-flota { see below } ]. There is a lot of interesting stuff there.

https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/5776
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« Reply #1621 on: June 09, 2025, 01:48:58 pm »
Kremlin snuffbox, 07/06/2024

Patrushev prepares for fight for Arctic

Presidential adviser Nikolai Patrushev has left public politics, but is busy with extremely serious issues. In particular, he is analyzing the situation and preparing the country for a possible clash with the United States in the Arctic, our sources from his circle say.

"The media doesn't often write about the Arctic, but it is an extremely important region for us. First of all, from a military point of view," the source says. According to him, Patrushev planned to fly to Astana for the SCO summit with the president, but at the last moment the plans changed.

The sources emphasize that Patrushev also retains a great deal of influence over the special services, although he does not oversee them to the same extent as before. "Many contacts have been maintained. The heads of departments consult with Nikolai Platonovich, this is a normal working process," said another source in Patrushev's entourage.

There are rumors among the elites that the active appearance of the head of the Investigative Committee Bastrykin in the news agenda was Patrushev’s idea, but this information has not been confirmed.

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« Reply #1622 on: June 09, 2025, 01:55:30 pm »
Strategic Depth. Patrushev Names New Targets for Russian Fleet

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Nikolay Patrushev spoke about the new Fleet Development Strategy. “Threats to our maritime borders will only increase,” says Nikolai Patrushev.

In an exclusive interview with aif.ru, the presidential aide and chairman of the Russian Maritime Board spoke about the new Fleet Development Strategy and about strengthening the coast guard in order to counter enemy drones.

Who is trying to violate the border?
Vitaly Tseplyaev, aif.ru: Nikolay Platonovich, experts note that the situation along our maritime borders is developing in a difficult manner. Is this really so?

Nikolay Patrushev: Judge for yourself: Russia's maritime border is more than 38 thousand kilometers long and is longer than its land border. And we are faced with attempts to violate it at all sections of the border. New provocations are being recorded in the Baltic, we see our opponents' desire to probe Russia's Arctic maritime borders, and not all is well, for example, in the Pacific Ocean. Ukrainian gangs are attempting to violate the maritime border of the Russian Federation in the Azov-Black Sea basin almost daily. An analysis of the situation in the world, including in adjacent regions, suggests that threats to our maritime borders will only increase.

Tseplyaev: In April, Vladimir Putin held a meeting on the development of the Navy. You mentioned that during this meeting, the President was presented with a draft of the Navy Development Strategy for the period up to 2050. What is the status of this document at the moment?

Patrushev: The decision to prepare the Strategy was made back in July last year at a meeting in the Kremlin. On the instructions of the President, the Ministry of Defense prepared its draft, which was then revised by the Russian Naval Board taking into account proposals from federal departments and organizations. The final version of the Strategy was submitted to the head of state for consideration, and he approved it on May 30.

How to ensure safety at sea
Tseplyaev: Can you reveal a little about the content or at least the tone of this Strategy?

Patrushev: Without going into details, I will say that such a strategic planning document has been adopted for the first time in modern history. This once again emphasizes that the development of a powerful and modern fleet is a priority for our country. And Russia's position as one of the greatest maritime powers in the world is gradually being restored. It is impossible to carry out such work without a long-term vision of scenarios for the development of the situation in the World Ocean, the evolution of challenges and threats and, of course, without defining the goals and objectives facing the Russian Navy.

Therefore, the Strategy contains an analysis of the development of the military-political situation in the world, the possible occurrence and nature of armed conflicts, and the potential of the leading naval powers. An assessment is made of the current state and capabilities of the Navy, taking into account the experience of a special military operation. The main requirements for the future combat composition of the fleet, its main tasks in peacetime and wartime, as well as mechanisms aimed at shaping the future appearance of the Navy are formulated.

In a word, an important long-term document has been adopted, which provides an answer to the question of what Russia’s naval power should be so that our country can effectively defend its interests in the World Ocean.


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The article goes on to detail the Shipbuilding program [ for which there is no money to begin or complete ].

https://aif.ru/politics/russia/strategicheskaya-glubina-patrushev-nazval-novye-celi-dlya-rossiyskogo-flota



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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1623 on: June 09, 2025, 02:06:49 pm »
Russia is on the verge of total economic collapse, equal or worse than 1991.  They will not be building much of anything for the next five years in terms of new naval forces.  They have no money. 

Plus, they are busy killing off their own army as rapidly as they can.    Putin's evil mindset has largely destroyed his country.   1 million men dead or seriously injured.  And the number grows daily.  The  country most threatened by Russia is Russia itself.  The people are sheep, have no say, and follow along without  questioning one thing.

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« Reply #1624 on: June 09, 2025, 05:26:58 pm »
Want to believe you but the verge of collapse
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« Reply #1625 on: June 09, 2025, 05:51:19 pm »
Want to believe you but the verge of collapse
Has been predicted for over two years now.

I do not think Russia is on the verge of collapse but their war effort is teetering. More Russians are speaking out against Putin over the war taking so long and they're upset that Ukraine is starting to hurt them at home.

I was watching a video about how Russia has around 2000 artillery pieces in storage and how their best efforts are putting 100 or so a month of them back into service. They started out with around 4000 such pieces in storage.

These Soviet-era weapons are not being replaced. The irony is that most of the heavy industry for producing these weapons was in Ukraine and that's been destroyed by Russia. Smooth move, Ivan.  22222frying pan

In any case the Russians are bit by bit demilitarizing. At some point their war simply becomes unsustainable as they run out of serviceable Soviet weaponry.
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« Reply #1626 on: June 09, 2025, 06:07:42 pm »
I do not think Russia is on the verge of collapse but their war effort is teetering. More Russians are speaking out against Putin over the war taking so long and they're upset that Ukraine is starting to hurt them at home.

I was watching a video about how Russia has around 2000 artillery pieces in storage and how their best efforts are putting 100 or so a month of them back into service. They started out with around 4000 such pieces in storage.

These Soviet-era weapons are not being replaced. The irony is that most of the heavy industry for producing these weapons was in Ukraine and that's been destroyed by Russia. Smooth move, Ivan.  22222frying pan

In any case the Russians are bit by bit demilitarizing. At some point their war simply becomes unsustainable as they run out of serviceable Soviet weaponry.

A "war of attrition."  It was thought such a war would heavily favored the Russians.
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« Reply #1634 on: June 09, 2025, 10:35:00 pm »
Why Russia Can’t Produce New MiG-31K Jets, Making Every Loss Critical to Its Kinzhal Program

Ukraine’s June 9 deep strike on the Savasleyka airbase in Russia’s Nizhny Novgorod region has not only damaged valuable Russian aircraft—it may have dealt a serious blow to Moscow’s ability to field MiG-31K jets equipped for Kinzhal hypersonic missiles

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As the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reported that Ukrainian Special Operations Forces hit the Savasleyka airbase overnight, damaging at least one MiG-31 and one Su-30 or Su-34 aircraft, military analysts say even a single MiG-31K loss could be critical, Ukrainian military outlet Defense Express reported on June 9.

“Russia is incapable of manufacturing new MiG-31K aircraft for Kinzhal deployment, so any loss in this category is especially painful,” notes Defense Express.  .  .  .

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« Reply #1635 on: June 09, 2025, 10:38:24 pm »
A fuel depot is on fire near Moscow: explosions were heard, the fire area has increased to 20,000 square meters

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A large-scale fire broke out at a warehouse with fuels and lubricants in Pushkino, Moscow region. The area of the fire reached 20,000 square meters, there is a threat of new explosions.



A fire broke out in a warehouse with fuels and lubricants in Pushkino, near Moscow. According to Russian Mash, gas cylinders exploded, the fire area reaches 20,000 square meters, reports UNN.

According to Mash, a building on Novaya Street caught fire. Inside there are flammable liquids in barrels, gas cylinders and pallets. The fire is spreading rapidly.  .  .

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« Reply #1636 on: June 10, 2025, 06:08:33 am »
Yeah, MiG-31s are 1970s technology, basically upgraded and repurposed MiG-25s.  The Russians haven't built any new ones in decades.  It's not a fighter, per se, but a high-mach interceptor and stand-off missile platform.  It can basically fly only in a straight line, fire its payload, and then gently turn and high-tail it back to base.  Its wings would fall off at more than 6 G's during those turns. 

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Serial production of the MiG-31 began in 1979. The first production batch of 519 MiG-31s including 349 "baseline models" was produced at the Sokol plant between 1976 and 1988. The second batch of 101 MiG-31DZs was produced from 1989 to 1991. The final batch of 69 MiG-31B aircraft was produced between 1990 and 1994. From the final batch, 50 were retained by the Kazakhstan Air Force after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Of the "baseline models", 40 airframes were upgraded to MiG-31BS standard.

Russia picks MiG-31 fighter as a carrier for cutting-edge hypersonic weapon

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« Reply #1637 on: June 10, 2025, 07:07:37 am »
I like the way Russia's military is as stupid and incompetent as Putin.

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« Reply #1638 on: June 10, 2025, 08:02:30 am »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 9, 2025

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The Kremlin appears to be dangling the prospect of bilateral arms control talks with the United States to extract preemptive concessions from the United States about the war in Ukraine ... ISW assessed in early 2025 that Russia was using economic incentives that are unrelated to the war in Ukraine to extract concessions from the United States about the war in Ukraine, and Russia's use of incentives related to arms control talks appear to be the latest iteration of this overall effort.

Western security officials continue to assess that Russia is preparing for a protracted confrontation with NATO. NATO General Secretary Mark Rutte stated on June 9 that intelligence assesses that Russia will produce 1,500 tanks, 3,000 armored vehicles, and 200 Iskander missiles in 2025.

It is unclear whether these vehicle production assessments are only referring to Russia's production of new vehicles or also include vehicles from Russia's Soviet-era stockpiles that Russia is refurbishing. Rutte stated that Russia is cooperating with the People's Republic of China (PRC), North Korea, and Iran and that Russia is reconstituting its forces with Chinese technology ... ISW assesses that Russia does not need to reconstitute its forces to pre-2022 levels before posing a threat to NATO states and could launch military operations against a NATO state before 2030.

Russian forces conducted the largest combined missile and drone strike of the war overnight on June 8 and 9 ... Ukrainian Air Force Spokesperson Colonel Yurii Ihnat stated on June 9 that Russian forces continue to adapt their strike packages against Ukraine, using large numbers of drones to overwhelm Ukrainian air defense systems and distract from subsequent cruise and ballistic missile launches

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« Reply #1639 on: June 10, 2025, 08:06:21 am »
Кремлевская табакерка/Kremlin Secrets, 06/09/25

North Korea Shows Interest in Russian Drones

During a recent visit to the DPRK, Russian Security Council Secretary Sergei Shoigu discussed with Kim Jong-un issues of increasing mutually beneficial cooperation between the countries. In particular, the DPRK leader highly praised the technological level of the Russian army and expressed interest in our kamikaze drones.

“Kim wants to teach some of his military to fly FPV. This is too progressive for them, but such a wish was voiced and conveyed to the President,” said a source familiar with the negotiations. So far, there has been no decision on this issue.

Shoigu also agreed on the delivery of a new batch of shells and missiles from the DPRK, but we will not go into details here.

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« Reply #1640 on: June 10, 2025, 08:10:31 am »
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Russia Giving North Korea Shahed-136 Attack Drone Production Capability:

Budanov the Ukraine's intelligence chief says Moscow is giving Pyongyang advanced military technologies that could shift the balance of power on the peninsula.

Budanov says the ability to produce the Shahed family of drones, in particular, which has been the most prolific long-range aerial threat to Ukraine for years, is being given to North Korea ... Having Shaheds will give North Korea the ability to hit targets anywhere in South Korea and potentially in huge volumes. They can overwhelm the South's air defenses, paving the way for attacks by other munitions. They could also be exported back to Russia to support the war in Ukraine.

The first batch of KN-23 missiles North Korea provided to Russia were woefully inadequate. According to a report from Ukrainian state prosecutors, around half of them - also known as Hwasong-11 - not only deviated from their trajectory but also exploded in midair. Since then, they have been dramatically improved thanks to Russian help, Budanov told us, now striking with deadly accuracy. This has given Russia a badly needed source of SRBMs ... While Budanov did not specify what was changed, this is likely to boost the capabilities of its many other ballistic missiles, extending the dangers beyond the peninsula. Russian aid to North Korea ...  will alter the balance of power on the peninsula.

The range of armaments provided by North Korea to Russia is quite wide, starting with [122mm] D-74 [howitzers] and 107mm infantry variant [multiple launch rocket systems] MLRS systems to 240mm MLRS and the 170mn M1989 [Koksan self-propelled artillery guns]. Unfortunately, this gun is demonstrating itself quite well in battle. It's firing from quite a long range, and it's quite good in terms of accuracy.

There are about 11,000 North Korean troops in Kursk Oblast. But there is also the problem of the visit of [Sergei Shoigu], the Secretary of the National Security Council of the Russian Federation, to North Korea. And there he ... agreed on the beginning of work of so-called labor migrants on the territory of Russia in order to partially replace the labor migrants from Central Asia that they consider as not stable for their state and vulnerable to recruitment by our special services and Western ones.

But there is a big probability that people among this labor migrant, they will start to sign contracts with the Ministry of Defense of Russia. And it wouldn't be the warriors from North Korea. It would be Russian warriors, but of North Korean nationality.

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« Reply #1642 on: June 10, 2025, 11:15:18 am »
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« Reply #1643 on: June 10, 2025, 11:17:59 am »
Budanov the Ukraine's intelligence chief says Moscow is giving Pyongyang advanced military technologies that could shift the balance of power on the peninsula.

I worry that there may be a large play here with China, Russia, and NK. A velvet coup by China against Taiwan, a Russia and China backed move by NK on SK, and possibly a move against Japan by China possibly w/Russia.

Either by capture or destruction, they have control of chip production, and we are cut off, which would wreck the economy.
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« Reply #1644 on: June 10, 2025, 11:42:31 am »
Overnight the brave, brave Russian forces victoriously destroyed an apartment building and a another strategically critical children's hospital!

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“Bigger Than ATACMS”: Ukraine’s Cutting-Edge Ballistic Missile Reportedly Enters Combat Use

400kg warhead
300km range, can be extended to 500km
A missile like this is at the operational-tactical level, it’s designed to destroy logistics hubs, command centers, and ammunition depots

The new missile is likely to be launched from mobile platforms positioned 40–50 kilometers from the front line. Its range puts targets deep inside Russian territory, up to 230–240 kilometers beyond the border, within reach.

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« Reply #1648 on: June 10, 2025, 10:21:25 pm »
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« Reply #1649 on: June 10, 2025, 10:25:43 pm »
Devastating Ukraine strike 1,000km inside Russia wipes out Putin's elite drone base

A massive fire resulted from the attack on the Russian tech facility, which has been sanctioned by the U.S. and the EU

Yelena Mandenberg  |  Jun 10, 2025  11:15 ET  |  UPDATED: 14:24 ET



Ukraine hit a tech plant in Cheboksary that supplied parts to Shahed drones (Image: east2west news)

A Ukrainian drone attack targeted the JSC VNIIR-Progress facility in the Russian city of Cheboksary in the Chuvashia Republic.

The General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces confirmed the June 9 strike, which led to explosions and extensive fires, stating that Ukrainian drone units aimed at VNIIR-Progress and ABS Electro in Cheboksary overnight.

The attack is part of Ukraine's new strategy to take out Russia's ability to manufacture certain drones and weapons used to attack Ukraine.   .  .

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