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« Reply #1450 on: June 02, 2025, 06:04:15 pm »
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« Reply #1451 on: June 02, 2025, 06:06:21 pm »
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« Reply #1452 on: June 02, 2025, 06:08:21 pm »
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« Reply #1453 on: June 02, 2025, 06:15:17 pm »
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« Reply #1454 on: June 02, 2025, 06:16:04 pm »
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« Reply #1455 on: June 02, 2025, 06:17:33 pm »
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« Reply #1456 on: June 02, 2025, 06:25:14 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1457 on: June 02, 2025, 06:41:43 pm »
A bunch of Russian trolls on that other website are calling for the Russians to use nukes against Ukraine, NATO, and the USA.

If such a thing comes to pass then these trolls had better get out of the USA in a massive hurry. This country will be out for blood on anyone who promoted the idea of a Russian mass murder of Americans.
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« Reply #1458 on: June 02, 2025, 06:49:59 pm »
Wow. I've read a few of the threads on TOS and I'm also following some discussions online.

First and most important thing here is the Russian submarine base at Severomorsk was successfully attacked during yesterday's Ukrainian drone strike on Russia. A "massive explosion" has been reported and the Russians so far are attributing it to a maintenance problem. Other sources are saying this was part of the drone strike since there was no maintenance occurring at the base on a Sunday.

https://countylocalnews.com/2025/06/01/breaking-massive-explosion-rocks-russian-nuclear-submarine-base-explosion-news-severomorsk-incident-nuclear-base-alert/

Second, the Russian trolls are apoplectic over the Ukrainian strike and are almost all uniformly calling for nuclear attacks against Ukraine while a subset of them are calling for Russia to invade and conquer Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia (which they call their 'Near Abroad') and to also conduct attacks against Poland and maybe even Germany.

I think they may be under the impression that these Russian attacks would not trigger an Article Five response from NATO and that the United States would not get involved.

This is the price of President Trump's failed appeasement policy with Russia is that some of the Russians are now believing that Trump won't get involved if Russia starts a broader war in Europe.

Interestingly is the ceasefire discussions were not ended because of the Ukrainian attacks yesterday.

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« Reply #1459 on: June 02, 2025, 07:15:36 pm »
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Ukrainian drone swarms are striking power substations in the Russian-occupied regions of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia
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« Reply #1460 on: June 02, 2025, 08:02:04 pm »
If Russia were to attack any NATO country, I believe it would trigger overwhelming direct US involvement. Trump is going to learn one way or another that talk isn't going to deter Russia.

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« Reply #1461 on: June 02, 2025, 08:47:57 pm »
Trump has solidly proven that he is clueless on Russia.  He tried appeasement, Chamberlain style, and Putin increased his war effort.  Putin is more blatant in his contempt of Trump than Hitler was of Chamberlain.  And yet, Trump talks about Putin like he is a long time personal friend.  The man could not be more obtuse about how negative this appears.

I  say Ukraine destroys as much of Russia's military as possible.  Kills as many Russian and North Korean troops as possible.  Believe me, Putin does not care about losing Russian soldiers.  They are completely expendable.  And the Russian people are fed nothing but propaganda that support what Putin is doing with no clue what reality is.  NO CLUE!!!!!!

What Trump should be focused on is the complete economic collapse of Russia, such that the Russian people are starving and Putin has no choice but to focus on his own country and end his deluded mindset of expansion into other sovereign nations.  What Trump should be promising is that perhaps if he comes to the peace table and relinquishes the land seized by him, he will not face war crimes in the international courts.

Trump's weakness is encouraging Putin to continue on his path.  Trump is the modern day Chamberlain, and we cannot remove him for 3.5 years as things stand now, unlike the Brit system that brought Churchill.  I suspect Trump knows little about history and is clueless who Chamberlain was.  History repeating itself once again.  Ugggh!

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1462 on: June 02, 2025, 09:38:17 pm »
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Ukrainian drone swarms are striking power substations in the Russian-occupied regions of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia

Melitopol is now without power.
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« Reply #1463 on: June 02, 2025, 10:46:45 pm »
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« Reply #1464 on: June 02, 2025, 10:50:22 pm »
Russia is going to have to hide what strategic aircraft they have left to keep any illusion of a deterrent or risk losing them. My bet is they fly much less often now if at all.

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« Reply #1465 on: June 02, 2025, 10:55:11 pm »
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« Reply #1466 on: June 02, 2025, 11:03:37 pm »
 
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1467 on: June 03, 2025, 05:53:22 am »
Trump has solidly proven that he is clueless on Russia.  He tried appeasement, Chamberlain style, and Putin increased his war effort.  Putin is more blatant in his contempt of Trump than Hitler was of Chamberlain.  And yet, Trump talks about Putin like he is a long time personal friend.  The man could not be more obtuse about how negative this appears.

I  say Ukraine destroys as much of Russia's military as possible.  Kills as many Russian and North Korean troops as possible.  Believe me, Putin does not care about losing Russian soldiers.  They are completely expendable.  And the Russian people are fed nothing but propaganda that support what Putin is doing with no clue what reality is.  NO CLUE!!!!!!

What Trump should be focused on is the complete economic collapse of Russia, such that the Russian people are starving and Putin has no choice but to focus on his own country and end his deluded mindset of expansion into other sovereign nations.  What Trump should be promising is that perhaps if he comes to the peace table and relinquishes the land seized by him, he will not face war crimes in the international courts.

Trump's weakness is encouraging Putin to continue on his path.  Trump is the modern day Chamberlain, and we cannot remove him for 3.5 years as things stand now, unlike the Brit system that brought Churchill.  I suspect Trump knows little about history and is clueless who Chamberlain was.  History repeating itself once again.  Ugggh!
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« Reply #1468 on: June 03, 2025, 05:55:44 am »
Russia is going to have to hide what strategic aircraft they have left to keep any illusion of a deterrent or risk losing them. My bet is they fly much less often now if at all.

I saw some posts and articles yesterday that indicate that the Russians are required to park their strategic bombers out in the open for satellite verification under the SALT I and SALT II treaties, which the Ukrainians either exploited deliberately or inadvertently.  Creates quite a dilemma for the U.S. considering the strategic nature of the drone strikes at those air bases.
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« Reply #1469 on: June 03, 2025, 06:32:46 am »
I like this:



It's funny too that Zelensky knew that planning for this mass drone strike was well underway when Trump and Vance told him he had no more cards to play.
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« Reply #1470 on: June 03, 2025, 07:07:44 am »
I saw some posts and articles yesterday that indicate that the Russians are required to park their strategic bombers out in the open for satellite verification under the SALT I and SALT II treaties, which the Ukrainians either exploited deliberately or inadvertently.

SALT I was the ABM treaty which did not cover bombers.  SALT II was never signed by the USSR.  And Putin suspended START shortly after the 2022 invasion began.  Russian trolls are lying again, @Timber Rattler
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1471 on: June 03, 2025, 07:18:37 am »

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1929574448086077636

Just to remind everyone that the above Yermak is the same guy that prior to the invasion followed in his father's footsteps and worked for the KGB. After being appointed to the Presidential Administration [ before Zelinsky was elected ] had the mine fields between Ukraine and Crimea [Russian occupied ] removed, allowing uncontested access for the Russian 52nd army to take southern Ukraine.
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« Reply #1472 on: June 03, 2025, 08:58:10 am »
Reporting From Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/@RFU/videos

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Ukrainian Black Hawks Penetrate Russian Lines in the First Air Assault!

Today [ June 2 ], there are a lot of interesting updates from the Kupiansk direction. Here, along the Oskil River near Kupiansk, Ukrainian special forces just carried out one of the boldest operations of the war. In a surprise helicopter raid deep behind Russian lines, they landed undetected and tore through dugouts, safe houses, and staging zones, shattering Russian preparations before their offensive could even begin. The Russian forces in this area maintain a very thin bridgehead on the west bank of the Oskil River, where the control of the town of Dvorichna allows them to accumulate and deploy forces across the river. Russians plan to use this bridgehead to tactically outflank Ukrainian forces in Kupiansk from the north, as well as to use it as a launching pad to link up with their other offensive in Kharkiv.

The Ukrainians understand that the Dvorichna bridgehead will be a key staging ground for the Russian summer offensive in Kharkiv, and know that they must act quickly to undermine any future Russian effort here. The primary Russian weakness here is that their forces must cross the Oskil River by boat to reach their bridgehead on the western bank, which significantly complicates their logistics. This prevents them from deploying large numbers of heavy weapons such as anti-tank guided missiles or MANPADS. The lack of man-portable air defenses makes the Russian bridgehead highly vulnerable to any aerial operations that the Ukrainians could conduct ... the Ukrainian Special Operations Forces Command devised a daring and unconventional plan ... to fly over Russian lines and deploy several teams of Special Forces in the rear of the enemy, where they would conduct raids, gather intelligence, and direct fire onto concealed Russian deployment points.

The Ukrainian Special Forces involved in this operation were deployed using American UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters, flying low to avoid being detected by the Russians. Penetrating deep behind Russian lines, the helicopters were able to land and dismount several dozen Ukrainian operators before returning safely to friendly territory ... reaching their targets, they launched a series of highly effective and deadly raids against Russian forces ... Several dugouts were quickly encircled, and numerous Russian soldiers were captured in the confusion. Taking full advantage of surprise and terrain, Ukrainian operators concealed themselves in forested areas, waiting for small Russian infantry groups that were either sent to find them, or were moving to new positions completely unaware.

These ambushes were swift and lethal, as the Ukrainians eliminated enemy soldiers at point-blank range using small arms, all while remaining undetected in the dense cover of the forest ... The high level of coordination and preparation of the Ukrainian forces, included several armored vehicles, meant to arrive near a designated exfil point ... was chosen carefully, as it had the least amount of frontline activity, and no Russian bridgehead, making it the safest route for the job ... The Ukrainian Special Operators, with intelligence gained from captured Russians, enabled the Ukrainian drone operators to identify large Russian strongholds standing in the way of the Ukrainian exfiltration. Artillery crews and heavy drone bombers were deployed, leading to the decimation of these Russian troops. This focused fire established a corridor for the Ukrainian Special Forces to ... reach the western bank of the river, where MaxPro armored vehicles awaited ...

Overall, the Ukrainians achieved the impossible, carrying out the war’s first air assault operation in over 3 years, allowing them to strike deep into Russian-held territory, inflict serious losses, and gather critical intelligence. Notably, it is highly likely that not all Ukrainian operators exfiltrated from behind Russian lines. ... these operators will be able to gather intelligence, set up and train further resistance networks, and conduct a deadly guerrilla warfare with sabotage and liquidations of top Russian commanders. Russia is going to go all-in this summer, and the Ukrainians are positioning themselves to take every advantage they can to repulse it.

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1473 on: June 03, 2025, 08:59:44 am »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1474 on: June 03, 2025, 09:16:05 am »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 2, 2025

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Ukrainian and Russian media published the major points of both sides’ memorandums on June 1 and 2, respectively. Ukranian outlet Suspilne published the full text of Ukraine's memorandum on June 1, which reflected Umerov’s statements about Ukraine's proposals during the June 2 Ukrainian-Russian talks. Ukraine's memorandum calls for:

A complete and unconditional ceasefire in the sky, on land, and at sea as a precondition to peace negotiations;
Confidence building measures, including the return of all Ukrainian children and civilians and the exchange of all POWs;
The goal of negotiations to be a permanent, lasting peace agreement, as part of which Ukraine receives reliable security guarantees and maintains its territorial integrity and ability to join any security alliance, including NATO;
And for Russia and Ukraine to continue negotiations after the June 2 Istanbul meeting, work towards confidence building measures, and prepare for a future Zelensky-Putin meeting.

Russia's memorandum is divided into 3 sections:
the 1st section defines Russia's demands for the “final settlement” of the war;
the 2nd section proposes 2 different sets of pre-conditions that Russia would accept as part of a ceasefire;
and the 3rd section outlines Russia's ideal timeline for negotiations.

The 1st section of Russia's memorandum lists demands that Ukraine should concede to as part of a long-term peace agreement, including:
International recognition of Russia's occupation of all of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts and Crimea and the complete withdrawal of Ukrainian forces from these oblasts;
Indefinite Ukrainian commitment to neutrality (a promise to never join military alliances and coalitions), a ban on future foreign military deployments and infrastructure in Ukraine, termination of all of Ukraine's existing security agreements, and a permanent ban on Ukraine having nuclear weapons;
And protection of the “full rights, freedoms, and interests” of Russians and Russian-speaking populations in Ukraine and legislation against the “glorification and propaganda of Nazism.”

The 2nd section of Russia's memorandum demands that Ukraine and Russia pursue 1 of 2 paths toward a ceasefire.
The 1st path requires Ukraine to completely withdraw from the unoccupied areas of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts up to an unspecified distance beyond the oblasts’ borders [ 'buffer zones' ].

The 2nd path requires Ukraine to agree a different set of Russian demands, including:
Ban redeployments of all its units, except as part of withdrawals from Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts;
End all Ukrainian force generation efforts, begin demobilization, end martial law, and organize Presidential elections within 100 days of ending martial law, and elect a new government;
And terminate all foreign military assistance, including the supply of satellite imagery and intelligence, and ban all foreign military deployments to Ukraine.

The 3rd section of Russia's memorandum recommends that Russia and Ukraine sign a longer-term ceasefire agreement after exchanging the bodies of dead service members and a 2-to-3-day general ceasefire to retrieve bodies from the battlefield [ a pause before continuing advancing Russian forces ].

The memorandum demands that Ukraine completely withdraw from Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts within 30 days of the beginning of the ceasefire and that Ukraine elect a new government before Russia and Ukraine sign a formal peace agreement.

Russia's memorandum reflects the Kremlin's long-standing public demands for Ukraine to make significant territorial and political concessions while Russia offers no concessions of its own. Russia's memorandum is imbued with its long-standing demand that any peace settlement address Russia's perceived “root causes” of the war - namely the eastern expansion of NATO since the early 1990s and Ukraine's supposed discrimination against Russian-speakers and Russian culture.

Putin demanded during a speech on June 14, 2024 that Ukrainian forces must begin to “completely withdraw” from Ukrainian-controlled territory in Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts (which the Kremlin illegally declared as annexed in September 2022) and that Ukraine officially abandons its goal to join NATO before Russia can agree to a ceasefire and peace negotiations.

The Russian delegation dismissed Russia's systemic kidnapping of Ukrainian children. Ukrainian Presidential Office Head Andriy Yermak [ former KGB operative ] reported that the Ukrainian delegation gave Russia the names of “hundreds” of kidnapped Ukrainian children that Russia must return to Ukraine. Medinsky claimed that the Ukrainian list contained 331 names yet downplayed this list as not “thousands” or “millions” of children but “dozens.”

Open-source analysts continue to clarify the battlefield damage following the Ukrainian long-range drone strike series on June 1. Open-source analysts on X assessed that available imagery published on June 2 indicates that Ukrainian special services likely destroyed or damaged 4 Tu-95 bombers and 3 Tu-22M3 bombers at Belaya Air Base in Irkutsk Oblast and 1 A-50 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft at Ivanovo Air Base in Ivanovo Oblast.

Open-source analysts on X claimed that available video footage published on June 1 and 2 indicates that Ukrainian special services destroyed or damaged 5 Tu-95 bombers and 1 An-22 transport aircraft at Olenya Air Base in Murmansk Oblast.

[ 12 bombers, I AWACs, 1 transport aircraft ].

Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation Head Lieutenant Andriy Kovalenko ... reported on June 2 that Ukrainian forces destroyed at least 13 Russian fixed-wing aircraft and damaged over 40 aircraft in total during the strike.

Ukrainian military observer Tatarigami stated on June 2 that Russia has not built new Tu-95 or Tu-22M3 since 1991 and that Russia only had 70 to 90 Tupolev aircraft before the June 1 strike series.

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1475 on: June 03, 2025, 09:19:24 am »
Кремлевская табакерка/Kremlin Secrets

Mobilization of 300,000 citizens may be announced on Russia Day

In response to a massive attack by our strategic bombers, a decision may be made to carry out a rapid mobilization. We are talking about at least 300,000 citizens, sources say. There is no decision yet, but it is expected that this may be done on June 12, Russia Day.

It is also noted that the mobilization will be announced not by the President, but by the defense minister. “The mobilization, which legally began in 2022, has not ended. And now its implementation will cause some negativity in society, so there is no need to “stick” it to Vladimir Vladimirovich,” a source in the Kremlin explained.

However, neither the Kremlin nor the Defense Ministry explained how the mobilization of ordinary Russians will help restore the losses of strategic aviation. But some hawks were delighted, because individual voices in the elites have long called for the mobilization of 400-450,000 Russians, or better yet, several million.

https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/5746
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1476 on: June 03, 2025, 09:21:32 am »
Ukraine's Security Service Hits Crimean Bridge in Underwater Sabotage Operation

The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) has carried out a new special operation targeting the Crimean Bridge - its third successful strike on the structure, this time using underwater explosives.

The operation, which had been in planning for several months, involved placing explosives on the underwater supports of the bridge. At 4:44 a.m., the first device was detonated. According to officials, the blast caused significant structural damage to the base of the bridge, using the equivalent of 1,100 kg of TNT. No civilian casualties were reported. The [ Kersh ] bridge is now in a critical condition, according to preliminary assessments.

SBU chief Lieutenant General Vasyl Maliuk personally oversaw and coordinated the operation. He stated that the bridge remains a legitimate military target due to its use by Russian forces for logistical support.

“Crimea is Ukraine. Any symbol or tool of occupation will face consequences,” Malyuk said.

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https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1929858263178158494
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The Kersh bridge continues to be hit as of 730 AM on 06/03/25. Sevastopol hit as well.
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« Reply #1477 on: June 03, 2025, 10:19:16 am »
Mobilization of 300,000 citizens may be announced on Russia Day


That would be yet another embarrassing admission that Vlady's "simple 1-week conquest of Ukraine" is still failing, and by extension, that all of Russia's propaganda efforts to portray it as successful are nothing but lies.

The first confession was in Sept. 2022, when the Kremlin monster had to call up another 300,000 troops, basically admitting that the initial invasion was vastly undermanned, and obviously badly planned. Things haven't got much better since then.

The Russian people must be getting tired of all these constant lies. Remember when the Soviet Union fell, the reason their people gave afterwards for it happening?

The people were fed up with all the government lying.

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1478 on: June 03, 2025, 11:17:10 am »
Ukraine's Security Service Hits Crimean Bridge in Underwater Sabotage Operation

The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) has carried out a new special operation targeting the Crimean Bridge - its third successful strike on the structure, this time using underwater explosives.

The operation, which had been in planning for several months, involved placing explosives on the underwater supports of the bridge. At 4:44 a.m., the first device was detonated. According to officials, the blast caused significant structural damage to the base of the bridge, using the equivalent of 1,100 kg of TNT. No civilian casualties were reported. The [ Kersh ] bridge is now in a critical condition, according to preliminary assessments.

SBU chief Lieutenant General Vasyl Maliuk personally oversaw and coordinated the operation. He stated that the bridge remains a legitimate military target due to its use by Russian forces for logistical support.

“Crimea is Ukraine. Any symbol or tool of occupation will face consequences,” Malyuk said.

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The Kersh bridge continues to be hit as of 730 AM on 06/03/25. Sevastopol hit as well.

Outstanding! This is a welcome kick to Putin's pride!  :yowsa:
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« Reply #1479 on: June 03, 2025, 04:52:11 pm »

Ukraine attacks Putin's prized Kerch bridge to Crimea in daring underwater strike with TNT blasts leaving it 'in a state of disrepair' days after drones blitzed nuke bomber fleet

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Ukraine has launched an audacious underwater attack on Putin's prized Kerch Bridge to Crimea with Kyiv claiming the link has been left in a 'state of disrepair'.

Around 2,500 pounds of explosives detonated early this morning, damaging underwater pillars of the 12-mile-long bridge, a key supply route for Russian forces invading Ukraine.

Footage showed smoke billowing over the bridge after the blast caused the entire structure to shake. Russian forces were forced to quickly close the bridge to traffic.

It comes as the Ukraine war continues to spiral out of control amid stalling peace talks.

The latest attack in Crimea follows an audacious blitz by Volodmyr Zelensky on Vladimir Putin's nuclear-capable long-range bomber fleet on Sunday.

The 117-aircraft operation codenamed 'Spider's Web' - Ukraine's largest drone attack of the war - struck airfields in Siberia and the far north of the country.

It comes amid fears that Putin will take the nuclear option as Ukraine's forces continue to push his troops back on the battlefield.

Russia told Ukraine at peace talks on Monday that it would only agree to end the war if Kyiv gives up big new chunks of territory and accepts limits on the size of its army.

The terms, formally presented at negotiations in Istanbul, highlighted Moscow's refusal to compromise on its longstanding war goals despite calls by Donald Trump to end the 'bloodbath' in Ukraine. 

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1480 on: June 03, 2025, 05:32:49 pm »
as Ukraine's forces continue to push his troops back on the battlefield.


Huh? The opposite is happening...

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1481 on: June 03, 2025, 05:57:50 pm »
The fact is that Russia has gained territory held in Ukraine by its soldiers.  But the gain is negligible.  Ukraine has managed to push Russia back on its heels with something every few months, whether it is sinking a large segment of the Russian Navy, seizing Kursk in Russia, or destroying $7 billion of Russian bombers.  The latter has Putin reeling right now.

Watch the story about the Admiral Kuznetsov, the only Russian aircraft carrier if you want a good chuckle.  After watching the videos about their only aircraft carrier, you learn just how bad the military is in Russia.  The end of one video indicated that if the Admiral Kuznetsov were ever to take to sea again, it is likely to sink or capsize.  If there was ever a doomed ship on the blue waters, it is this ship.  The sister ship was abandoned, and given/sold to China, and they are also having issues with their aircraft carrier.  No mystery why!

Putin is not willing to seek a peace agreement, not now, not ever.  Trump is delusional to believe he is.  And I suspect the attack the other day was actually far worse than reported.  It was said a naval base was also hit, yet I haven't heard any details to the damage.  That truth will surface shortly.  Perhaps a few of Russia's submarines found their way to the bottom.

And rest assured, Ukraine has other strikes that will be crippling for the Russians in the works.  Count on it.  Russia has a huge inventory of assets, mostly sitting in plain view just waiting to be destroyed, and I say we give Ukraine whatever they need to do just that, like yesterday.

Russia is in the process of mobilizing 350,000  -  1 million men.  By November of this year, there could be 1 million more men on the front lines in Ukraine.  Again, Putin does not care how many men die in his war of aggression.  Does not care!!!!  The Russian people are about the most docile sheep on the planet.  If you think for yourself in Russia, you end up dead.  If this happens, I see Poland, Hungary, Germany and others providing ground forces to the Ukraine effort. 

Believe me, NATO forces will be attacked, and that will bring in all the other members of NATO, and then we have a real war.

I say better to bring Russia to its knees economically long before that happens.  Tell China, no trade, period, unless you line up against Russia and help end the war.  Freeze any nation that is trading with Russia.  Literally, no trade.  Begin to starve Russia, for they are not capable of feeding their own population.  As Gen Grant proved during the Civil War, fastest way to have your enemy surrender was to starve them.  We need to begin to starve Russia in earnest.  And Trump needs to end his idiotic statements about Putin like he was his roommate from Penn University!!!!!!!
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« Reply #1482 on: June 03, 2025, 06:13:43 pm »
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There is no way we can stop trade with China completely - they make most of the meds and precursors people need to live.
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« Reply #1483 on: June 03, 2025, 06:29:50 pm »
I like this:



It's funny too that Zelensky knew that planning for this mass drone strike was well underway when Trump and Vance told him he had no more cards to play.

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« Reply #1484 on: June 03, 2025, 07:05:00 pm »

The fact is that Russia has gained territory held in Ukraine by its soldiers.  But the gain is negligible.  Ukraine has managed to push Russia back on its heels with something every few months, whether it is sinking a large segment of the Russian Navy, seizing Kursk in Russia, or destroying $7 billion of Russian bombers.  The latter has Putin reeling right now.
Reading and hearing a lot about Ukraine strategically 'allowing' Russia to capture small bits of territory. This is because Ukraine has the area fully sabotaged with mines and booby traps everywhere. Also, Ukraine will lead the Russians into areas which is easier for them to snipe and easier kill them with drones.

When Ukraine gives up a few kilometers of land to Russian soldiers, they are prepared and they know what they are doing. That land becomes a 'kill zone'.
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« Reply #1485 on: June 03, 2025, 07:50:50 pm »
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There is no way we can stop trade with China completely - they make most of the meds and precursors people need to live.

Well, gosh, let's exclude pharma then.  Bottomline, China is already crying about their factories being shutdown as a result of Trump's efforts to get them to bring parity to the tariff situation. 

Take out pharma, and this and that, and 80% of the trade can be halted, and John and Jane Doe just have to do without their plastic trash can.  For a short period.  China stops trade with Russia, and the rest of the world, how long before Putin begins getting serious about peace, and peace on Ukraine's terms, not Putin's.  100 days.  Because longer than that and the people of Russia will nerve up and remove him as they did Boris Yeltsin in the 90s.

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« Reply #1486 on: June 03, 2025, 08:01:11 pm »
240B,

Yes, I am sure Ukraine has set the field to be a killing field.  No doubt.  But the fact remains they have given up acreage.  If Trump and the world did as I suggested, Putin would have no choice but to realize he is bested.

I am married to a Russian, and one of their primary problems is that they believe they are superior to everyone in the world on everything.  No joke.  That is not an over statement.  And when I tell my wife the Ukrainians are literally kicking the Russian Army in the posterior, I can see it bugs her.  They have all been raised to believe they are superior to the whole world, and not by a gnat eyelash either!

In regard to the Ukrainian War, the people of Russia are being told that Russia is thoroughly destroying the Ukraine military, with little loss of life.  When Russia's casualties were 300,000. the Russian media was telling the people they had 1,000 losses.  They are utterly clueless, and thus support Putin by 85%.  But that can change if Ukraine rains down hell on the Russian people.

And despite this, the graveyards are filling up with dead from Ukraine.  Where my Father-in-law is buried, there were no graves hear him, and now, my sister in law sent photos of what look like hundreds of new graves, all soldiers from Ukraine.

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« Reply #1487 on: June 03, 2025, 10:24:59 pm »
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« Reply #1488 on: June 03, 2025, 10:29:18 pm »
Lavrov complains to Sec. Rubio about severe case of butt-hurt.


https://twitter.com/AlexandruC4/status/1929296933664755763
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« Reply #1489 on: June 03, 2025, 10:42:12 pm »
Here's the team that pulled off the recent attack on the Kerch bridge:


https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1929977777555460384
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« Reply #1492 on: June 03, 2025, 11:19:53 pm »
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« Reply #1493 on: June 03, 2025, 11:20:36 pm »
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« Reply #1494 on: June 03, 2025, 11:23:49 pm »
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« Reply #1495 on: June 04, 2025, 07:00:54 am »
Ukraine’s jets adopt Western tactics, learn to hunt in packs

https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/06/03/how-ukraines-air-force-learned-to-hunt-in-packs-like-wolves/?swcfpc=1&fbclid=IwY2xjawKtBlpleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFuUXZ2bDRMd3RFTTRkNXRWAR7LEWpHRlDCv1pKqtlTYXyZ16zCLo-keIsP1qprckPygGLg-JjeFKxLRTT6_g_aem_vlDynoGmPk_VS9gOsZ3EAA

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Something has changed in Ukraine’s skies. Russian air defenses that once dominated the battlefield are being picked apart with surgical precision—not by lone wolf pilots, but by something entirely new.

The Ukrainian F-16 pilots fighting to hold back 50,000 Russian troops in Sumy Oblast aren’t fighting alone anymore. More and more, the air force’s jets fight as teams.

A dramatic video that circulated online on Monday depicts a Sukhoi Su-27 from the Ukrainian air force’s 39th Tactical Aviation Brigade blowing up a Russian air-defense vehicle somewhere along the 1,100-km front line of Russia’s 39-month wider war on Ukraine.

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