Ukraine 6

[jafo2010]

Sen Graham must be getting 10% kick back like Wrecking Ball Joe for all the contracts he can sell to defense contractors.  He is their lead salesman.  He never knew a war he did not like.

Trump will begin supplying more lethal weapons, weapons that reach to Moscow and cause far greater damage.  This war is heating up, and I can see us being dragged into a major war.  Europe/USA against Russia/China.

Time to bring back the draft.  We are headed to war unless someone kills Putin.  Also time to remove all Chinese and Russian nationals from the USA that are not citizens.

[Smokin Joe]

So I'm guessing that all the NAFO nerds in this thread believing that everything that comes out of Ukraine on social media is unvarnished truth and no propaganda also take as credible everything that the "Palestinians" put it about the alleged atrocities committed by the IDF?

Anyone...anyone?


If your answer is "of course not" then please explain how you justify being skeptical of one groups propaganda while swallowing another groups propaganda whole without question.

Aeschylus said "Truth is the first casualty in war." That hasn't changed in 2000 years...
Everyone is going to spin it to demoralize their enemies, prop up their own, and create clouds of uncertainty for the other side. Deception always plays a part.

I am skeptical of much, but the bottom line is that one bunch started this by invading another country. Any time they want to pack their gear and go home, the war will stop.

[txradioguy]

Aeschylus said "Truth is the first casualty in war." That hasn't changed in 2000 years...
Everyone is going to spin it to demoralize their enemies, prop up their own, and create clouds of uncertainty for the other side. Deception always plays a part.

I am skeptical of much, but the bottom line is that one bunch started this by invading another country. Any time they want to pack their gear and go home, the war will stop.

Neither side will allow that to happen because both sides have too much $$$$ to gain from the current situation.

[Canuck Conservative]

Neither side will allow that to happen because both sides have too much $$$$ to gain from the current situation

Right, the only reason WWII lasted 6 years was because both sides were making too much money.

Got it.

[BobfromWB]

 

[BobfromWB]

from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1m5t85k/russian_forces_once_again_attempted_an_assault/

According to preliminary information, some of the vehicles involved in the assault were destroyed or damaged, and the attack itself was repelled. As of now, the factory has been classified as a so-called "grey zone" — fighting did take place there, but the outcome remains unclear. It is likely that the area is not fully controlled by either side, and the risk of renewed clashes remains high. Additional details are expected to emerge in the coming hours.

[BobfromWB]

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, July 21, 2025

Excerpts:

Russian forces conducted a large-scale series of missile and drone strikes against Ukraine on the night of July 20 to 21 that included over 400 drones as Russia continues to launch significantly larger strike packages in June and July 2025 than in January to May 2025. The Ukrainian Air Force reported that Russian forces launched 426 Shahed-type strike drones and decoy drones from the directions of Bryansk and Oryol cities; Millerovo, Rostov Oblast; Shatalovo, Smolensk Oblast; and Primorsko-Akhtarsk, Krasnodar Krai.

The Ukrainian Air Force reported that Russian forces also launched 5 Kh-46 Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles from the airspace over Tambov Oblast; 4 Kalibr cruise missiles from the Black Sea; 1 Iskander-K cruise missile from Millerovo; and 14 Kh-101 cruise missiles from the airspace over Saratov Oblast. The Ukrainian Air Force reported that Ukrainian forces shot down and suppressed 200 Shahed-type drones and 203 decoy drones that Ukrainian air defense fire and electronic warfare (EW) downed all the missiles. The Ukrainian Air Force reported that 23 strike drones hit 3 locations and that drone debris fell in 12 locations. Ukrainian officials reported that Russian strikes damaged civilian and critical infrastructure in Ivano-Frankivsk, Kyiv, and Kharkiv oblasts.

Kyiv City Military Administration Head Timur Tkachenko reported that the Russian strike damaged the entrance to a metro station in the city Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky stated that the Russian strikes injured 15 civilians and killed two. Russia rarely launched over 200 drones per night between January and May 2025, and an overnight strike package consisting of over 400 drones - even if far below Russia's latest record high of 728 drones in one strike package - demonstrates the dramatic shift in Russia's ability to repeatedly launch larger-scale drone strikes in recent weeks since May 2025.

Ukraine's Western partners pledged additional military and financial assistance to Ukraine during a virtual meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group (the Ramstein format) on July 21 ... Germany will transfer 5 Patriot air defense systems to Ukraine in the near future and that Germany will also send 200,000 Gepard shells to Ukraine ...

Shmyhal stated that Canada will contribute an unspecified amount toward financing Ukraine's defense industrial base (DIB) via the “Danish model” (in which Ukraine's partners buy Ukrainian-manufactured weapons for the Ukrainian military) and allocated 20 million CAD ($14.6 million) to Ukrainian tank maintenance. Shmyhal stated that the Netherlands allocated 200 million euros (roughly $234 million) to fund Ukrainian production of interceptor drones to counter Russian Shahed-type drones and 125 million euros (roughly $146 million) for F-16 fighter jet maintenance. Shmyhal stated that Norway also allocated one billion euros (roughly $1.67 billion) to fund Ukrainian drone purchases in 2025, including 400 million euros (roughly $468 million) specifically to purchase drones from Ukraine's DIB.

British Defense Secretary John Healey announced during the Ukraine Defense Contact Group meeting on July 21 a “50-day drive” to arm Ukraine on the battlefield and help push Russian President Vladimir Putin to the negotiating table.

Healey noted that the group needs to seize on US President Donald Trump's threat to impose “severe” 100% secondary tariffs on Russia's trade partners if there is no peace settlement to end Russia's war in Ukraine within 50 days from July 14.

ISW has consistently assessed that only significant Russian battlefield setbacks, enabled by timely and sufficient Western military assistance to Ukrainian forces, will force Putin to reconsider Russia's ability to militarily defeat Ukraine and bring him to the negotiating table.

Such setbacks will not happen in a matter of weeks and will likely require several months or campaign seasons, assuming that the West commits to properly equipping and aiding Ukrainian forces to the point that Ukraine could successfully conduct such operations.

Ukraine officially proposed a third round of negotiations with Russia amid speculation in the Ukrainian and Russian informational spaces. Russian officials continue to feign interest in good-faith negotiations, despite failing to propose or agree to a 3rd round of negotiations ... Unspecified sources cited by Kremlin newswire TASS confirmed that Ukraine proposed a 3rd round of negotiations to Russia and stated that negotiations may be held on July 24 or 25 ... The Kremlin has since repeatedly claimed interest in a 3rd round of negotiations as Russian officials have reiterated in June and July 2025 Russia's long-standing demands that amount to Ukrainian capitulation ...
 
Russia's decision to send the same, mid-level negotiating team to the reported upcoming 3rd round of negotiations indicates that Russia's disinterest in peace negotiations is unchanged. ISW continues to assess that the Kremlin remains dedicated to protracting peace negotiations to support continued offensive operations in Ukraine and extract additional concessions from Ukraine and the West.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-july-21-2025

[BobfromWB]

[BobfromWB]

Mutiny in the Ranks?

The Politburo is concerned about a new report from representatives of the leadership of the security bloc, which speaks of brewing discontent in the military command. Allegedly, the General Staff is confident that everything is heading towards the end of the war, after which they will not be able to avoid repressions. Rumors are spreading among the generals about a total purge in the General Staff almost immediately after the cessation of hostilities.

The authors of the report believe that a conspiracy is brewing in the ranks of the military leadership and a mutiny is possible, similar to the “march” of the Wagner PMC led by Prigozhin on Moscow. Based on materials based on the analysis of wiretaps of several Russian army generals, it was concluded that talk of a mutiny is taking the form of a plan that can be implemented.

Representatives of the leadership of the security bloc are asking for the go-ahead for the detention and arrest of at least three main conspirators. The Politburo has scheduled consultations on this issue.

https://t.me/generalsvr/3305

[BobfromWB]

Kremlin snuffbox/Кремлевская табакерка, July 22, 2025

Gerasimov's "competitor" prepares a plan for Putin to accelerate the offensive at the front. And proposals on what to do with Armenia and Azerbaijan

According to our sources in the Kremlin, the commander-in-chief of the Ground Forces, Andrei Mordvichev, is preparing a plan for improving the situation in the SVO zone for the President.

"Andrei Nikolaevich has learned that Vladimir Vladimirovich is not very happy with the pace of our advancement at the front and the liberation of territories [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/5879 ]. He is preparing proposals to optimize the offensive actions of the troops, increase the efficiency of the use of equipment and manpower, staffing the army, and so on. There will be no details, the information is classified," said one of the channel's interlocutors.

According to another, Mordvichev also proposed "investigating the issue of the advisability of using military elements of influence" on Armenia and Azerbaijan in connection with their unconstructive behavior toward Russia. This was the general's own initiative.

Sources in Mordvichev's circle confirmed this information to us. And they assured us that the preparation of proposals for Putin is not connected with rumors that Andrei Nikolaevich could be appointed Chief of the General Staff instead of Valery Gerasimov [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/5697 ].

“General Mordvichev is thinking about Russia and about Victory, and not about posts,” assured a military man close to the commander-in-chief of the Ground Forces.

https://t.me/s/kremlin_secrets

[BobfromWB]

Putin's 'Brain', A. Dugin, Waxes Hysterical

Kremlin snuffbox/Кремлевская табакерка, July 22, 2025

"God gave a sign, there will be missile strikes on resorts." Putin was offered to close passenger air traffic and ban Russians from vacationing at sea

The philosopher Alexander Dugin conveyed this proposal to the President. According to him, "Russians do not understand that they must unite for the sake of Victory in the great war that our country is waging. Therefore, serious restrictions are necessary."

"We must unite and declare total mobilization [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/5876 ]. The people do not want this. So, we must force them. And before that, we must remove from people's lives everything unnecessary, superficial, that interferes with fighting and war. You do not need to fly on an airplane if you do not want to go to the army! How can you vacation somewhere on the Black Sea or abroad when your fellow citizens are dying at the front? We need strict bans, and immediately!" - explained Alexander Gelyevich in a commentary to Tabakerka.

He added [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/5895 ]: “I said that I pray to God for missile strikes on Moscow and other cities. For strikes that will awaken our people. Now I want the same strikes on Sochi, Yalta, Gelendzhik and other resorts. And believe me, they will happen. God has already given us a sign - don’t travel by train to the resorts [ https://t.me/bbbreaking/211319 ]. The trains are standing still. Don’t you understand? There will be missiles. Either everyone will go to war, or there will be missiles!”

The Kremlin told us that they had received proposals from Dugin aimed at “mobilizing society around Victory.” Vladimir Putin has not yet considered them, but plans to do so.

https://t.me/s/kremlin_secrets

[MeganC]

A reminder about the nature of Russian propaganda campaigns in the US:

https://www.ft.com/content/b9437993-75c2-45f9-95a4-0dc24dd0750a

(Excerpt)

US seizes websites allegedly used by Russia to spread election disinformation
Washington cracks down on what it says are Moscow’s latest attempts to meddle in the presidential race

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One article on the fake Washington Post website read: “It is time for our leaders to recognise that continued support for Ukraine is a mistake. It was a waste of lives and money, and to claim otherwise only means further destruction. For the sake of everyone involved in the conflict, the Biden administration should just make a peace agreement and move on.”

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US prosecutors said the scheme also involved deploying influencers globally, paying for social media advertisements — some of which were made using artificial intelligence — and creating social media profiles pretending to represent US and other non-Russian users.

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