JUST IN: President Trump and Vice President JD Vance excoriate President Zelensky during heated meet

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1895570431085883732

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1895555896656417189

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/status/1895573389726924848

[bilo]

After the initial shock of today's meeting, the more I think about it, I think Trump pulled off a master stroke. Outing Z on his bait switch tactic will mightily backfire on Z.

Great point!

I was surprised with how much crap Pres. Trump put up before bringing down the hammer.

[DB]

https://twitter.com/CilComLFC/status/1895562770348982370

That makes sense. There's no going back from what Zelenskyy apparently said.

[jafo2010]

MeganC...


Russia will attack Europe, Europe will respond in kind, and the US will be dragged into the war.

Just not going to happen, at least not in the next five years.

If the EU tells the USA to get out, and we do, they are fine.  And I would think they would beef up their militaries somewhat.  Russia is a paper tiger, and if they couldn't deal with Ukraine, they will not deal with NATO.

Plus, at 72, there is a chance Putin is gone five years from now.  As he ages, he will not want to lead his nation to war.  His military is floundering, like they are in quicksand.  He does not have much of a future if he does not reverse the financial fortunes of Russia.

Right now, Russia is not a real threat to NATO Europe. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1892962237968527760

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://twitter.com/BuzzPatterson/status/1895565387150082124

[Right_in_Virginia]

Secretary Marco Rubio
@SecRubio

Thank you @POTUS for standing up for America in a way that no President has ever had the courage to do before. Thank you for putting America First. America is with you!

2:19 PM · Feb 28, 2025

https://x.com/SecRubio/status/1895554419305091087

[Right_in_Virginia]

[cato potatoe]

The news channels are throwing a hissy.  Today was a long time coming IMO and Zelenskyy needs to be moved aside so a ceasefire and then a lasting peace can be possible. 

[jafo2010]

Sen Lindsay Graham never turned his back on a war of any kind, we must feed the military/industrial complex.  We know who his major contributors to his campaign are.

From DAY ONE, I never thought of Ukraine as our ally.  In WWII, they sided more with Nazi Germany. 

Ukraine is fighting for their survival.  And the fact is, the USA has been training Ukrainians since 2014, if not before.  They were better trained in 2022 with the attack by Russia then than they were in 2014.  And while their numbers have been depleted, they have been nicely reinforced with US military equipment, depleting our own military to outfit the Ukrainians.

But I can't say how tired I am about Ukraine defending democracy when the fact is they are not.  Elections in Ukraine have been suspended.  Nothing democratic about it. 

Trump is right, prepare to settle for peace or die alone.  If Europe were to pick up in our place, it would not last long, for they get much of their equipment from the USA.  Ukraine will be forced to settle for peace and relinquish multiple things.  My view, they should be thankful.  And this could have been negotiated two years ago when Putin realized his military was spineless.

But Z's wanting US boots on the ground, he should have known Trump would balk at that.  No way!!!!!!

[Right_in_Virginia]

Roseanne Barr
@therealroseanne

It feels good to have a president who cares more about peace than money laundering

2:42 PM · Feb 28, 2025

[DB]

The news channels are throwing a hissy.  Today was a long time coming IMO and Zelenskyy needs to be moved aside so a ceasefire and then a lasting peace can be possible.

Lasting peace? LOL... Surrendering doesn't result in "lasting peace".

[Wingnut]

The news channels are throwing a hissy.  Today was a long time coming IMO and Zelenskyy needs to be moved aside so a ceasefire and then a lasting peace can be possible.

If I hear "Putin's Puppet" one more time I might throw a bag of Rubles at the TV.

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://twitter.com/BasedMikeLee/status/1895579555433496984

https://youtu.be/ADcALMO5wf4?si=Bov4Qk16y0SlzAxC

[DefiantMassRINO]

Now is a perfect time for a coup in Ukraine with Zelensky out of the country.

Looks like it's up to Europe to keep the Ruskies from building a new empire in Eastern and Central Europe.

If I was Z, I'd call the Chi-coms and make them an offer to the rights for the minerals in return for the Chi-coms 'convincing' Putin to abandon his annexation of Ukraine.

[cato potatoe]

Lasting peace? LOL... Surrendering doesn't result in "lasting peace".

Trump will have to maintain the peace, because otherwise, it will dog him through the end of his term.  What is the alternative?  They have fought for 3 years now, the Russians are not giving up, and eventually the Ukrainians are going to require direct intervention.

[mystery-ak]

OSINTdefender
@sentdefender
The President of France, Emmanuel Macron following today’s fiery-exchange in the Oval Office between U.S. President Donald J. Trump, Vice-President JD Vance and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky:

“There is an aggressor: Russia.

There is a people under attack: Ukraine.

We were all right to help Ukraine and sanction Russia three years ago and to continue to do so.

We are Americans, Europeans, Canadians, Japanese and many others.

Thanks to all those who helped and continue. And respect to those who, since the beginning, have been fighting. Because they are fighting for their dignity, their independence, for their children and for the security of Europe.”

[bilo]

https://twitter.com/BasedMikeLee/status/1895579555433496984

https://youtu.be/ADcALMO5wf4?si=Bov4Qk16y0SlzAxC

After all the double dealing from Zelensky I think that's pretty gracious.

[bilo]

Now is a perfect time for a coup in Ukraine with Zelensky out of the country.

Looks like it's up to Europe to keep the Ruskies from building a new empire in Eastern and Central Europe.

If I was Z, I'd call the Chi-coms and make them an offer to the rights for the minerals in return for the Chi-coms 'convincing' Putin to abandon his annexation of Ukraine.

So you make Ukraine a vassal state of China rather than stop the fighting. If you stop the fighting you have time to rebuild your military and country.

[MeganC]

In WWII, (Ukraine) sided more with Nazi Germany.

You've been corrected on this before. Now you're just being an ignorant ass when you repeat this ahistorical crap.

When WW2 started Ukraine was part of the USSR and Ukraine had suffered the loss of some fifteen million of their people to the goddamned Russians who starved them, raped them, murdered them, and sent them to Siberia where they were starved, raped, and murdered.

There was no Ukraine during WW2. Just the USSR and various enslaved peoples trying to fight for their freedom from those coughsuckers: Finns, Ukrainians, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles, etc.

Cut it out. 

[DefiantMassRINO]

Ukraine, as a vassal state of PRC is more secure than an independent Ukraine that is not a member of NATO nor the EU.

Putin would not want to have the Chi-coms on his western border, blocking Russian expansion.

Chi-coms can provide capital and security.  Ukraine gives Chi-coms more access to Europe and allows Chi-coms to check Russian expansionism into their European markets.

There are (3) world powers - Russia, China, the United States.

Russia is the weakest and most vulnerable, and they are Ukraine's aggressor.

The United States is the strongest established world power, but is unwilling to commit to long-term support and security for Ukraine.

China is a rising world power whose European markets are threatened by Russian expansion, and could use Ukraine as a spingboard for more PRC influence in Europe.

If a nation cannot rely on the United States to provide security from Russian aggression, the only remaining alternative is to pivot towards PRC.

If America leaves a power vaccum in Europe, it will either be filled by Russia or China.  If I'm Ukraine, China is the better option for Ukraine.

Ukrainians sided with Nazi Germans against Josef Stalin - their common enemy.  According to Nazi ideology the Ukrainians were subhuman Slavs whose territory was to be ethnically cleansed to make way for ethnic Germans.

[libertybele]

So you make Ukraine a vassal state of China rather than stop the fighting. If you stop the fighting you have time to rebuild your military and country.

We'll see what happens, I think Z may make a deal with China. He's more desperate than he was before, either that, or perhaps China already made him an offer as well. 

[DB]

Zelenskyy will likely no longer be Ukraine's leader by Monday.

[libertybele]

You've been corrected on this before. Now you're just being an ignorant ass when you repeat this ahistorical crap.

When WW2 started Ukraine was part of the USSR and Ukraine had suffered the loss of some fifteen million of their people to the goddamned Russians who starved them, raped them, murdered them, and sent them to Siberia where they were starved, raped, and murdered.

There was no Ukraine during WW2. Just the USSR and various enslaved peoples trying to fight for their freedom from those coughsuckers: Finns, Ukrainians, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles, etc.

Cut it out. 

@Meghan just an observation; is it necessary to belittle a fellow Briefer by calling him an ass?

If Ukraine was once part of the USSR as you have stated, than perhaps that's why Putin feels he's entitled to that territory. How dare that g_d damn coughsucker!  Your words -- definitely not mine.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Zelenskyy will likely no longer be Ukraine's leader by Monday.

Then, the Russians will have won, and Ukraine is lost to the West.  Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia will be in Putin's crosshairs.

[mystery-ak]

Source: Trump, Vance ‘Caught Off Guard by Zelensky’s Offensive Antics’

President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance were expecting a consequential but standard Oval Office appearance with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Friday.

Their appearance was anything but routine.

The meeting to announce a rare earth materials agreement between Ukraine and the United States as part of a pathway to peace between Ukraine and Russia deteriorated quickly after a combative Zelensky protested U.S. desire to draw down the long war.

“The president and vice president were caught off guard by Zelensky’s offensive antics,” a source familiar told Breitbart News.

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/02/28/source-trump-vance-caught-off-guard-by-zelenskys-offensive-antics/

[libertybele]

Zelenskyy will likely no longer be Ukraine's leader by Monday.

Rumor has it that Parliament is in session and that they are talking about impeaching him.  Rightfully so.  The way he came here thinking he was going to out maneuver Trump in front of the press absolutely backfired and it appeared that he wasn't thinking of ending the war nor peace.

[mystery-ak]

Schiff: Millions of Americans ‘Downright Ashamed’ of Trump

Pam Key 26 Feb 2025

Senator Adam Schiff (D-CA) said Wednesday on CNN’s “Situation Room” that millions of Americans are “downright ashamed” of President Donald Trump’s actions in dealing with Ukraine.

Schiff said, “This is an effort to pressure Zelensky into giving up something for nothing. And I have to say this, on top of the resolution at the United Nations– where the United States sided with Russia, betrayed Ukraine – is one of the most shameful incidents in modern history. I think millions and millions and millions of Americans watching this not only disagree with the president but, maybe for the first time, are just downright ashamed of the president because we have betrayed an ally.”

He continued, “We not only betrayed an ally, but we betrayed our principles. Are we to be nothing except transactional now? We have no commitment to democracy, no commitment to our allies. It’s all going to be about the money. That seems to be Donald Trump’s orientation. But what a sad chapter of our history.”

Schiff added, “Ukrainians have made just tremendous sacrifices and to be reduced to this by his most important ally, the United States, coming hat in hand with some kind of fig leaf offer of the mineral wealth of his country in exchange for little or nothing,” Schiff concluded. “It is really just tawdry, but it is, you know, what this administration has reduced our allies to.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/02/26/schiff-millions-of-americans-downright-ashamed-of-trump/

[Wingnut]

Zelenskyy will likely no longer be Ukraine's leader by Monday.

Planes crash all the time.

[Bigun]

At least Lindsey can read a room sometimes.

At least Pres. Trump was gracious enough to leave the door open for him to come back.

  He knows which side his bread is buttered on.

[libertybele]

Then, the Russians will have won, and Ukraine is lost to the West.  Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia will be in Putin's crosshairs.

I think it all depends on how quickly they can replace Z  and how quickly that person can call an emergency meeting with Trump, and I have a feeling that Z isn't going to step down willingly.  Ukraine now has another disastrous problem on their hands.

Prayers up for the people of Ukraine.

[libertybele]

Planes crash all the time.

Especially as of late, just sayin'.

[dfwgator]

Then, the Russians will have won, and Ukraine is lost to the West.  Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia will be in Putin's crosshairs.

No. Because Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia  are members of NATO.

[Bigun]

Roseanne Barr
@therealroseanne

It feels good to have a president who cares more about peace than money laundering

2:42 PM · Feb 28, 2025

 

[MeganC]

Just not going to happen, at least not in the next five years.

Lots of people said the same thing in 1914 and 1939.

Lots of sensible people didn't believe Billy Mitchell saying the Japanese would attack Pearl Harbor someday.

In any case history makes clear that appeasing dictators like Putin encourages them in their aims.

Worse, Trump is legitimizing future conflicts over ethnic populations that have aggressively settled in or have colonized other countries.

Sorry, but this kind of crap just never ends well.

[Bigun]

We'll see what happens, I think Z may make a deal with China. He's more desperate than he was before, either that, or perhaps China already made him an offer as well. 

I'm pretty sure Zelinski's dealing days are done, or soon will be.

[libertybele]

Lots of people said the same thing in 1914 and 1939.

Lots of sensible people didn't believe Billy Mitchell saying the Japanese would attack Pearl Harbor someday.

In any case history makes clear that appeasing dictators like Putin encourages them in their aims.

Worse, Trump is legitimizing future conflicts over ethnic populations that have aggressively settled in or have colonized other countries.

Sorry, but this kind of crap just never ends well.

How do you come to that conclusion?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Worse, Trump is legitimizing future conflicts over ethnic populations that have aggressively settled in or have colonized other countries.

This  from a poster calling another Briefer an ass.   

[MeganC]

@Meghan just an observation; is it necessary to belittle a fellow Briefer by calling him an ass?

Yes, especially when he/she has been corrected on this same exact point before and yet insists on using it anyway. Courtesy obviously didn't get through the first time.

If Ukraine was once part of the USSR as you have stated, than perhaps that's why Putin feels he's entitled to that territory. How dare that g_d damn coughsucker!  Your words -- definitely not mine.

On behalf of His Majesty Charles III, by the Grace of God, King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith I demand that you surrender your holdings, estates, and properties to their rightful owner.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I'm pretty sure Zelinski's dealing days are done, or soon will be.

    

[MeganC]

This  from a poster calling another Briefer an ass.   

Speaking of Russian revisionists here you are.

[Bigun]

Lots of people said the same thing in 1914 and 1939.

Lots of sensible people didn't believe Billy Mitchell saying the Japanese would attack Pearl Harbor someday.

In any case history makes clear that appeasing dictators like Putin encourages them in their aims.

Worse, Trump is legitimizing future conflicts over ethnic populations that have aggressively settled in or have colonized other countries.

Sorry, but this kind of crap just never ends well.

Lots of people don't believe that the Soviet Union would have fallen of its own weight soon after its appearance but for the good ole U. S. Department of State and the N. Y. Times propping it up but its true.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Yes, especially when he/she has been corrected on this same exact point before and yet insists on using it anyway. Courtesy obviously didn't get through the first time.

There are volumes and volumes of reports and evidence contrary to your opinion  --- and your opinion is not a factual *correction*.  You should remember this.

[MeganC]

How do you come to that conclusion?

I paid attention.

[MeganC]

There are volumes and volumes of reports and evidence contrary to your opinion  --- and your opinion is not a factual *correction*.  You should remember this.

In the period of WW2 1939-1945 who were the leaders of this independent and sovereign Ukraine you speak of?

[libertybele]

I paid attention.

  

[Right_in_Virginia]

Speaking of Russian revisionists here you are.

 

[mountaineer]

There are a lot of politicians claiming Zelensky was "ambushed."
 
There was a full 40 minutes of dialogue before the "fireworks" started.

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1895590525454983416