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Zelensky is doing a serious disservice to the Ukrainian people insulting the American President and the American people - just to appease Europeans and increase his low polling in Ukraine after he failed miserably to defend his country.

This is not a theater act but a real war!
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Shaheen: GOP Lawmakers Privately Say Trump ‘Gone Too Far’ on Ukraine

Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) claimed on CNN’s “News Central” that some of her Republican colleagues privately say President Donald Trump’s actions on Ukraine have gone too far.

Nope.  Trump's actions were spot on and he did and said what should have been done long ago, but Biden didn't have the spine to do it.  This war was a money maker for him and others.

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I'm waiting for Lindsey Graham to chime in...
His lips have to be detached from Zelenskyy's rear end first.
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Shaheen: GOP Lawmakers Privately Say Trump ‘Gone Too Far’ on Ukraine

Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) claimed on CNN’s “News Central” that some of her Republican colleagues privately say President Donald Trump’s actions on Ukraine have gone too far.

More of that un-named source bull crap....  Typical dim tactic.
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Someone up thread said Kash and Pam are breathing easier today.  Use to be a 24 hour news cycle.  More like a 24 minute one these days.
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Note -  this guy has UKR flag in his X profile, and he still says this:

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This is entirely Zelensky’s fault. Trump greeted him graciously, was ready to turn the page. Just said he wanted to get help Ukraine get it’s territory back. And Z comes in and gets into a fight in public? I’ve never seen anything like it in my life.
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His lips have to be detached from Zelenskyy's rear end first.

I'd guess that's one of the more pleasant places his lips have been...
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Someone up thread said Kash and Pam are breathing easier today.  Use to be a 24 hour news cycle.  More like a 24 minute one these days.
/easier to breathe on a Friday afternoon
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Wooohooo.....

Lindsey Graham on Fox, throws Z under the bus!!!!!
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I'm waiting for Lindsey Graham to chime in...

Whoa!!!!!

Even Lindsey Graham (just now on Fox news), said Zelensky blew it big time, and unless he changes, the ukranians should get a new leader. And then he said he was very proud of Trump and Vance.

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It would’ve been a show of strength for the President of the United States to bring the elected leader of Ukraine to the Oval Office and engage with him in a dignified way.
 
But you would never know that after President Trump’s shameful display. Putin must be overjoyed with today’s theatrics.

Following the U.S. vote in alignment with Russia at the United Nations this week, a disturbing pattern has emerged that is contrary to America’s longstanding support of democracy around the world.
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Wow. This is certainly a well-needed change to all the glad-handling and passing out of billions of dollars he has been used to up until now.

About 95% of the appropriations supposedly for Ukraine never left the USA.

Here's an example: HR 7691 117th Congress May 10, 2022

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/7691/text

The appropriation totals $40.1 billion.

Exactly none of that money went to the Ukrainian government.

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Generations of American patriots, from our revolution onward, have fought for  the principles Zelenskyy is risking his life to defend. But today, Donald Trump and JD Vance attacked Zelenskyy and pressured him to surrender the freedom of his people to the KGB war criminal who invaded Ukraine.  History will remember this day— when an American President and Vice President abandoned all we stand for.
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Generations of American patriots, from our revolution onward, have fought for  the principles Zelenskyy is risking his life to defend. But today, Donald Trump and JD Vance attacked Zelenskyy and pressured him to surrender the freedom of his people to the KGB war criminal who invaded Ukraine.  History will remember this day— when an American President and Vice President abandoned all we stand for.



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Rubio looks like he's sinking into the couch...lol
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Zelensky errors today:
1) Shows up in costume, not a suit
2) Has 0 awareness about his geopolitical standing
3) Blackmails POTUS w "Russia will be at your doorstep" talk
4) Ambassador emotes in front of press, humiliating delegation
5) No respect, demands more money
What a mess.
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https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1895559986291315150

Rubio looks like he's sinking into the couch...lol

So, Z once again lied to Rubio.  I wouldn't exactly call this a black mark on Rubio, but ... Trump and Vance handled Z. 

This hasn't been a good week for Trump's cabinet -- Rubio, Bondi and Patel all have some 'splaining' to do.

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Zelensky errors today:
1) Shows up in costume, not a suit
2) Has 0 awareness about his geopolitical standing
3) Blackmails POTUS w "Russia will be at your doorstep" talk
4) Ambassador emotes in front of press, humiliating delegation
5) No respect, demands more money
What a mess.

The outcome here will be the US ending material support to Ukraine.
The Europeans will then start arming themselves.
The EU will end up as a federal government with a federalized military (something that predicated the Brexit)
The EU will exit NATO.
The US will have to exit Europe.
Russia will attack Europe, Europe will respond in kind, and the US will be dragged into the war.

This same stupid play happened when the US sat on its collective hands in the lead up to WW2 and did nothing as Hitler was appeased and then Hitler and Stalin went to war. The result was a second generation of Americans bled and died in Europe.

NATO was formed as per the words of the first NATO Secretary General Lord Ismay to, "Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down."

NATO kept the peace for the best part of eighty years.

And within the next year or so it will end and so with it peace.

In other topics people are saying how the US needs to rebuild our military and in this I agree. We need to do so and we need to do so right away.

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So, Z once again lied to Rubio.  I wouldn't exactly call this a black mark on Rubio, but ... Trump and Vance handled Z. 

This hasn't been a good week for Trump's cabinet -- Rubio, Bondi and Patel all have some 'splaining' to do.

Got to give Rubio a pass.  His actions are only as good as Zellinsky's word.  Which isn't worth shit.  And finally, and I have been Z's biggest critic by far at TBR. This SOB finally showed his true colors.

Not wanting to gloat, but.....
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Great! Let “Free Europe” take over this neverending money pit.

Agreed..... 
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Got to give Rubio a pass.  His actions are only as good as Zellinsky's word.  Which isn't worth shit.  And finally, and I have been Z's biggest critic by far at TBR. This SOB finally showed his true colors.

Not wanting to gloat, but.....

I was another one that never trusted Z and to those who still think he didn't make money off of this war, seriously?

Z showed his true colors, IMHO a long time ago.

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Whoa!!!!!

Even Lindsey Graham (just now on Fox news), said Zelensky blew it big time, and unless he changes, the ukranians should get a new leader. And then he said he was very proud of Trump and Vance.

At least Lindsey can read a room sometimes.

At least Pres. Trump was gracious enough to leave the door open for him to come back.
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BREAKING: US State Department terminates U.S. support of Ukraine energy grid restoration after White House kicks out Zelensky
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Democrats, Never Trumpers Inflated Zelensky’s Arrogance Before Oval Office Disaster

Democrats inflated Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s sense of arrogance and entitlement before Friday’s disastrous Oval Office meeting, with Sen. Adam Schiff (D-CA) even calling Zelensky the real leader of the free world.

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2025/02/28/democrats-never-trumpers-inflated-zelenskys-arrogance-before-oval-office-disaster/
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Ukraine Minerals Meeting Falls Apart After Zelensky Threatens U.S. Will ‘Feel’ Consequences of War

President Donald Trump, Vice President JD Vance, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky engaged in a heated argument during an Oval Office press conference on Friday.

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https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1895559986291315150

Rubio looks like he's sinking into the couch...lol

It looks to me like Rubio wants to kill that guy.

Zelensky's double dealing is what got Pres. Trump mad at him earlier this month.
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Ok, I’ve now watched the opening of the Oval Office press conference. Zelinsky behaved petulantly despite Trump’s repeated attempts to be gracious at the outset. The whole thing broke down in a spectacular fashion because of Zelinsky’s inability to navigate a diplomatic situation.
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Yep. It's easy for people to just blame Trump, but he sat there and took it for several minutes before offering pushback on Zelensky.
You don't go into the Oval Office and try to embarrass the president in front of the press. Save that stuff for private conversations.
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Now we are getting down to some realpolitik.
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It looks to me like Rubio wants to kill that guy.

Zelensky's double dealing is what got Pres. Trump mad at him earlier this month.

Rubio looks embarrassed and pizzed that's for sure.

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Ok, I’ve now watched the opening of the Oval Office press conference. Zelinsky behaved petulantly despite Trump’s repeated attempts to be gracious at the outset. The whole thing broke down in a spectacular fashion because of Zelinsky’s inability to navigate a diplomatic situation.
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Yep. It's easy for people to just blame Trump, but he sat there and took it for several minutes before offering pushback on Zelensky.
You don't go into the Oval Office and try to embarrass the president in front of the press. Save that stuff for private conversations.
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Z just made an enemy out of the U.S.

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Every other world leader this week demonstrated respect for the office of the President. Why did Zelenskyy believe this was a wise decision?

Two things are true.  First, Zelensky is desperate.  It shows on his face, the out right desperation.

2nd, he walked all over Joe Biden, or whoever represented the USA in dealing with him and his country.  He assumes perhaps all Americans are the same.

Trump has an aversion to wars he considers frivolous, and this is such a war.  No purpose here.  He wants to end it before NATO is thrust in the middle of it.  France wanted to send boots on the ground just a month or so ago, and I suspect Trump & Co. advised him to drop that notion.

Ukraine will be forced to relinquish land that was part of Ukraine to construct a peace with Russia.  I am sure Trump has negotiated with Putin a settlement that he will agree to, and the USA will emerge with minerals being provided to the USA.  Ukraine will be the loser in all of this, but they get to exist in peace, some 70-80% of their country.  Better that than being over taken by Russia.

And Ukraine can rebuild their military so that they are better prepared to fight Russia.

But Zelensky better wake up to the UGLY TRUTH that Trump is NOT Biden, who was a world class fool.  Otherwise, he may lose his whole country.
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Democrats, Never Trumpers Inflated Zelensky’s Arrogance Before Oval Office Disaster

Democrats inflated Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s sense of arrogance and entitlement before Friday’s disastrous Oval Office meeting, with Sen. Adam Schiff (D-CA) even calling Zelensky the real leader of the free world.

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2025/02/28/democrats-never-trumpers-inflated-zelenskys-arrogance-before-oval-office-disaster/

So ... waiting for the protests to begin over this and for people to start saying that Trump is Putin's puppet.

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Fox News reporting:   Zelensky wanted to stay and work things out.   President Trump would have none of it.

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After the initial shock of today's meeting, the more I think about it, I think Trump pulled off a master stroke. Outing Z on his bait switch tactic will mightily backfire on Z. 
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Got to give Rubio a pass.  His actions are only as good as Zellinsky's word.  Which isn't worth shit.  And finally, and I have been Z's biggest critic by far at TBR. This SOB finally showed his true colors.

Not wanting to gloat, but.....

 tipping hat!!    :beer:

And has anybody but me noticed that our two most vocal ZEE Boyz are AWOL today?

Awww...not to worry Zel...they'll both be back up on their knees in no time.


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https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/status/1895566798508192229

Is this true???

If it is, and that's a big if, Zelensky is going to have to resign and someone else step in to reset things.
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Rubio looks embarrassed and pizzed that's for sure.

Rubio's been pissed off with Z lying about their discussions.  I think the SOS rather enjoyed telling the Ukrainian delegation they have to go now and escorting them out.

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Folks, I think we really need to be clear about what happened today.

No, Trump and Vance didn't just go into this meeting with Zelensky as an ambush. Trump sounded very, very nice at the beginning. He hoped Zelensky was ready to sign a good deal.

Zelensky was then grandstanding in front of the media and demanding a U.S. security guarantee for any peace with Russia to happen. Basically, he lied. He got into the Oval and started sounding off.

Trump and Vance were insulted - on behalf of the USA - and acted accordingly.

Zelensky's gone now.

THAT'S what happened. This is how you handle these things. You don't let it slide. Good on Trump and Vance.


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