LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict

[libertybele]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1796545507160129724

 

[DefiantMassRINO]

1.) Michael Cohen was a lawyer ... engaged in a criminal activity ... as a co-conpirator ... in a criminal conspiracy ... to violate Federal Election Campaign Contribution Laws ... by means of fraudulent business records ... of an LLC/Corp (Trump Org) registered in, and regulated by, the State of New York ... and obligated to maintain proper, legal, accurate business records for tax and legal reasons.  Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to Federal charges for this same conduct.

2.) Michael Cohen did not submit "legal bills" to Donald Trump ... The Trump Org created false invoices for an amount greater than $130,000 ... to conceal an illegal in-kind political contribution as a business expense for the Trump Org and as 1099 taxable income for Michael Cohen.

3.) The payment invoices were fraudulently logged as business legal expenses by the Trump Org CFO to conceal Michael Cohen's illegal in-kind campaign contribution of $130,000 to the benefit of the Trump 2016 campaign that was used to prevent the public release of the Stormy Daniels encounter.

4.) The fraud was Trump Org (registered in and regulated by the State of New York) CFO and CEO's falsifying business records to conceal the commission of other crimes.

5.) The acts of a conspiracy, formed in 2015, to prevent the publication of embarassing, but true, information throughout the Trump 2016 Campaign, that included Michael Cohen making an illegal in-kind $130,000 campaign contribution made in October, 2016, to hide truth from American voters to benefit the Trump 2016 campaign, and using fraudulent Trump Org business invoices and checks in 2017 to conceal that illegal $130,000 in-kind political contribution, may have impacted the results of the 2016 Presidential election ... but we'll never really know because the conspiracy, formed in 2015, carried out in 2016, and concealed by fraudulent 2017 Trump Org invoices and checks deprived the American voters of the opportunity to make that decision for themselves.

The 2017 Trump Org fraudulent invoices and checks were payment and concealment of Michael Cohen's October, 2016, $130,000 illegal in-kind campaign contribution to keep Stormy Daniels out of the news as part of the 2015 conspiracy to capture and kill stories that my harm the Trump 2016 Campaign.

If Trump had paid $130,000 out of his personal checking account, instead of Trump Org funds, to pay-off Stormy Daniels, there would have been no crime committed.  It was the cover-up of the October, 2016, payment to Stormy Daniels that is the crime.

Much like Watergate, it was the cover-up and follow the money that got Trump in legal trouble.

1)  Is (was) Michael Cohen a lawyer?

2)  Did lawyer Cohen submit 'legal' bills to Donald Trump?

3)  Were these legal expenses logged as legal expenses by a bookkeeper experienced in categorizing expenses to lawyers as "legal expenses"?

4)  Was anyone defrauded?

5)  Did the act of paying an expense to a lawyer in 2017 influence the 2016 election?

[libertybele]

Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres

Megyn Kelly calls for retribution and revenge.

We're going to start putting Democrats in prison.

https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1796421844423356899

Nice thought but when you have a DOJ that is so corrupt and full of DEMS and GOPe's that's a might tall dream.

[Bigun]

Dust off the law books. Make the charges bizarre and outlandish. Be sure they're the first ones charged in the last 100 years.

[libertybele]

1.) Michael Cohen was a lawyer ... engaged in a criminal activity ... as a co-conpirator ... in a criminal conspiracy ... to violate Federal Election Campaign Contribution Laws ... by means of fraudulent business records ... of an LLC/Corp (Trump Org) registered in, and regulated by, the State of New York ... and obligated to maintain proper, legal, accurate business records for tax and legal reasons.  Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to Federal charges for this same conduct.

2.) Michael Cohen did not submit "legal bills" to Donald Trump ... The Trump Org created false invoices for an amount greater than $130,000 ... to conceal an illegal in-kind political contribution as a business expense for the Trump Org and as 1099 taxable income for Michael Cohen.

3.) The payment invoices were fraudulently logged as business legal expenses by the Trump Org CFO to conceal Michael Cohen's illegal in-kind campaign contribution of $130,000 to the benefit of the Trump 2016 campaign that was used to prevent the public release of the Stormy Daniels encounter.

4.) The fraud was Trump Org (registered in and regulated by the State of New York) CFO and CEO's falsifying business records to conceal the commission of other crimes.

5.) The acts of a conspiracy, formed in 2015, to prevent the publication of embarassing, but true, information throughout the Trump 2016 Campaign, that included Michael Cohen making an illegal in-kind $130,000 campaign contribution made in October, 2016, to hide truth from American voters to benefit the Trump 2016 campaign, and using fraudulent Trump Org business invoices and checks in 2017 to conceal that illegal $130,000 in-kind political contribution, may have impacted the results of the 2016 Presidential election ... but we'll never really know because the conspiracy, formed in 2015, carried out in 2016, and concealed by fraudulent 2017 Trump Org invoices and checks deprived the American voters of the opportunity to make that decision for themselves.

The 2017 Trump Org fraudulent invoices and checks were payment and concealment of Michael Cohen's October, 2016, $130,000 illegal in-kind campaign contribution to keep Stormy Daniels out of the news as part of the 2015 conspiracy to capture and kill stories that my harm the Trump 2016 Campaign.

If Trump had paid $130,000 out of his personal checking account, instead of Trump Org funds, to pay-off Stormy Daniels, there would have been no crime committed.  It was the cover-up of the October, 2016, payment to Stormy Daniels that is the crime.

Much like Watergate, it was the cover-up and follow the money that got Trump in legal trouble.

@DefiantMassRINO   You are understanding what has just happened, right?  This wasn't justice this was a way to once again interfere in an election.

Trump is merely a buffer.  The left is demonstrating that they will stop at absolutely nothing to remain in power.

No worries.  Next they'll be coming for you...unless you decide to join them and even at that remember that everyone is expendable.

[Cyber Liberty]

@DefiantMassRINO   You are understanding what has just happened, right?  This wasn't justice this was a way to once again interfere in an election.

Trump is merely a buffer.  The left is demonstrating that they will stop at absolutely nothing to remain in power.

No worries.  Next they'll be coming for you...unless you decide to join them and even at that remember that everyone is expendable.

I am sure he's already on the "safe list."  Look at his posts...he's never taken a stand about Sloe Joe's raping of America.

[catfish1957]

David Limbaugh
@DavidLimbaugh
·
12h
I'm not going to be as charitable as some on one point. Many are rushing to say, "Don't blame the jurors. They were led by the corrupt judge, etc." We don't need to take this position to emphasize Merchan's corruption. False choice. These jurors have a duty too -- and they failed

I fully agree...  I've kept up, and IMO these 12 POS NY'ers are as much of political hacks as the jurist running this kangaroo exercise.

Future?  85K armed IRS agent gotta do sumptin'

[Bigun]

I am sure he's already on the "safe list."  Look at his posts...he's never taken a stand about Sloe Joe's raping of America.

 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres

Megyn Kelly calls for retribution and revenge.

We're going to start putting Democrats in prison.

https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1796421844423356899

Begin with Hillary Clinton

[Bigun]

Begin with Hillary Clinton

And don't stop until you hang them all!

[catfish1957]

OMG

Claire McCaskill
@clairecmc
·
3h
All the Trump supporters calling on red state DAs to criminally prosecute  democrats don’t realize their problem. Juries of ordinary citizens will not convict someone without evidence.

Is she willing to bet the "Big Guy"'s 10% cut on that assertion?

[DefiantMassRINO]

12 (Jurors) x 34 (Counts) = 408 times a juror was convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed a felony.

Trump conducts himself as a racketeer that engages in conspiracies with persons who act as co-conspirators that will take the fall for Donald.

MAGA is a death cult of personality.  Republican enablers, and the Party, will go down with the Trump ship.

It's Trump's Republican Party.
It's Trump's US House of Representatives.
They are Trump's Congressmen and Trump's Senators.

Their loyalty to Trump is greater than their loyalty to anything or anyone else - God, Country, Family, Truth, Constitution, etc.

Trump's Republican Party is conducting itself as an organized crime syndicate.  Everyone in Trump's orbit should realize that they have positioned themselves to be future indicted co-conspirators for Donald's crimes, schemes, and conspiracies.

Good luck with that.

[catfish1957]

And don't stop until you hang them all!

The GOP is the proverbial bringing a knife to a gun fight. 

That crap's gotta stop.

[catfish1957]

12 (Jurors) x 34 (Counts) = 408 times a juror was convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed a felony.

Trump conducts himself as a racketeer that engages in conspiracies with persons who act as co-conspirators that will take the fall for Donald.

MAGA is a death cult of personality.  Republican enablers, and the Party, will go down with the Trump ship.

It's Trump's Republican Party.
It's Trump's US House of Representatives.
They are Trump's Congressmen and Trump's Senators.

Their loyalty to Trump is greater than their loyalty to anything or anyone else - God, Country, Family, Truth, Constitution, etc.

Trump's Republican Party is conducting itself as an organized crime syndicate.  Everyone in Trump's orbit should realize that they have positioned themselves to be future indicted co-conspirators for Donald's crimes, schemes, and conspiracies.

Bullshit!!!!!   I've been an extremely vocal Trump critic, but smart enough to know when this country has hit a critical turning point.  So stop with the broad brush silliness.

I think you've lost your mind.....  So go ahead and put on your Biden knee pads, and move on,

[Bigun]

12 (Jurors) x 34 (Counts) = 408 times a juror was convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed a felony.

Trump conducts himself as a racketeer that engages in conspiracies with persons who act as co-conspirators that will take the fall for Donald.

MAGA is a death cult of personality.  Republican enablers, and the Party, will go down with the Trump ship.

It's Trump's Republican Party.
It's Trump's US House of Representatives.
They are Trump's Congressmen and Trump's Senators.

Their loyalty to Trump is greater than their loyalty to anything or anyone else - God, Country, Family, Truth, Constitution, etc.

Trump's Republican Party is conducting itself as an organized crime syndicate.  Everyone in Trump's orbit should realize that they have positioned themselves to be future indicted co-conspirators for Donald's crimes, schemes, and conspiracies.

Good luck with that.

Be gone Troll!

[Bigun]

Bullshit!!!!!   I've been a extremely vocal Trump critic, and smart enough to know when this country has hit a turning point.  So stop with the broad brush silliness.

You've lost your mind.....  Go ahead and put on your Biden knee pads, and move on,

I'd make a sizable wager that @DefiantMassRINO has NEVER cast a vote for a republican in his entire life.

[Cyber Liberty]

For the Merchan supporters above:

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1796290488976228406

"Anyone who defends this verdict is a danger to you and your family."

[DefiantMassRINO]

Trump is not a fiscal conservative.
Trump is not a Constitutional conservative.

Trump aspires to be America's first absolute monarch.

I voted for Trump in the 2016 GOP Primary.
I voted for Trump in the 2016 Presidential Election.

Who else does the GOP have to offer than Trump?

What else does the GOP have to offer than MAGA?

Without Trump, the GOP is just a wing of the UniParty that has been selling out America and Americans for the past 30+ years.

[catfish1957]

Trump is not a fiscal conservative.
Trump is not a Constitutional conservative.

Trump aspires to be America's first absolute monarch.

I voted for Trump in the 2016 GOP Primary.
I voted for Trump in the 2016 Presidential Election.

Who else does the GOP have to offer than Trump?

What else does the GOP have to offer than MAGA?

Without Trump, the GOP is just a wing of the UniParty that has been selling out America and Americans for the past 30+ years.

 

Provide one iota of proof that Trump wants to be absolutel Monarch....  Just one

Say's the member with a jailed Trump screen shot.  Gotcha.....

[mystery-ak]

Trump is not a fiscal conservative.
Trump is not a Constitutional conservative.

Trump aspires to be America's first absolute monarch.

I voted for Trump in the 2016 GOP Primary.
I voted for Trump in the 2016 Presidential Election.

Who else does the GOP have to offer than Trump?

What else does the GOP have to offer than MAGA?

Without Trump, the GOP is just a wing of the UniParty that has been selling out America and Americans for the past 30+ years.

If not Trump..who would be your ideal Conservative/Repub candidate?

[DefiantMassRINO]

I supported Asa Hutchinson during the GOP Primary.

I will not support any candidate that aligns himself or herself with Trump because they lack principled moral fortitude to do the next right thing.  They are willing to sell their souls for proximity to power.

[Bigun]

I supported Asa Hutchinson during the GOP Primary.

Got it! That makes perfect sense!  RINO likes RINO!

[Cyber Liberty]

If not Trump..who would be your ideal Conservative/Repub candidate?

Have you ever heard a Biden voter actually say he/she is a Biden voter?

[mystery-ak]

 Megyn Kelly and Dan Abrams brawl over Trump guilty verdict: ‘You don’t know what you’re talking about!’
By Social Links for Ariel Zilber
Published May 31, 2024, 11:27 a.m. ET

Dan Abrams invited Megyn Kelly on to his NewsNation show on Thursday to discuss former President Donald Trump’s conviction in a Manhattan court hours earlier in what turned into a heated debate over whether the guilty verdict was justified.

When Abrams said that Trump was guilty of violating campaign finance laws, Kelly hit back, saying: “Wrong! You don’t know what you’re talking about! You’re wrong!”

Trump on Thursday was convicted by a Manhattan jury of 34 counts of falsifying business documents related to a hush money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels.

Kelly hit out at Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, who she labeled a “partisan hack” who “doesn’t want to prosecute any crime unless it’s by a man named Trump.”

more
https://nypost.com/2024/05/31/media/megyn-kelly-and-dan-abrams-brawl-over-trump-conviction/

[catfish1957]

Have you ever heard a Biden voter actually say he/she is a Biden voter?

That we even have a poster putting up a pic with Trump in jail is pretty disgusting,

[mystery-ak]

That we even have a poster putting up a pic with Trump in jail is pretty disgusting,

Well, I admit I hate it too...but TBR isn't FR...maybe he will change it..

[DCPatriot]

Absolutely, totally shocked at the level of hypocrisy here since the verdict was handed down yesterday.

"Look at ME!!"   Forget about the 8 years of hatred spewed here by a clear majority of members toward Donald Trump,....tripping over yourselves now offering what's tantamount to "thoughts and prayers...."

Some of you actually brag that you'd never vote for the man.  Your "Master of Bullshit" at least has gone into his cave since another thread was locked because....WTF knows why!

Soon as the Trump haters get punched in the face, the authorities show up and separate everyone.

Y'all aren't fooling anyone.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Out of respect for mystery-ak ... I changed my avatar back.

I await the timely passage of a FY 2025 Budget by the House by October 1st.  If all those GOP Congressmen had time to attend Trump's trial, they must surely be almost done with their day job - passing bills of appropriation on time.

[corbe]

   You are so full of $hit.  You and your compatriot got that Thread locked like you do every Thread that you disagree with. 

[DB]

Absolutely, totally shocked at the level of hypocrisy here since the verdict was handed down yesterday.

"Look at ME!!"   Forget about the 8 years of hatred spewed here by a clear majority of members toward Donald Trump,....tripping over yourselves now offering what's tantamount to "thoughts and prayers...."

Some of you actually brag that you'd never vote for the man.  Your "Master of Bullshit" at least has gone into his cave since another thread was locked because....WTF knows why!

Soon as the Trump haters get punched in the face, the authorities show up and separate everyone.

Y'all aren't fooling anyone.

Always making it personal.

Just because someone doesn't want to vote for someone for President that already had a go at it and has a record of some very large failures doesn't mean they want a corrupt legal system prosecuting them for crimes they didn't commit. It isn't very complicated but something you seem to be incapable of understanding. That is a reflection on you, not us.

[Cyber Liberty]

Out of respect for mystery-ak ... I changed my avatar back.

I await the timely passage of a FY 2025 Budget by the House by October 1st.  If all those GOP Congressmen had time to attend Trump's trial, they must surely be almost done with their day job - passing bills of appropriation on time.

On these, we agree.  I am tired of Budgets being pushed off into Never Neverland.

[Cyber Liberty]

   You are so full of $hit.  You and your compatriot got that Thread locked like you do every Thread that you disagree with.

Oh!  Thanks for reminding me, @corbe!  I should go unlock that...

[mystery-ak]

[DB]

Oh!  Thanks for reminding me, @corbe!  I should go unlock that...

I thought you did yesterday (unlocked it)?

[mystery-ak]

🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸
@mrddmia
Dear Republicans:

If your response to Biden’s Republic-ending lawfare against Trump is:

1. we must respect the process

and/or

2. we are too principled to retaliate

Please do two things:

1. bleep off

2. leave the party

You are too weak, stupid, and dangerous to keep around.

[mystery-ak]

So what!

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1796559265596858787

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1796585926522704188

[corbe]

   Jim Jordan is reminding me more each day of Darrell Issa and Trey Gowdy.  All hat and no cattle.

[mystery-ak]

Out of respect for mystery-ak ... I changed my avatar back.

I await the timely passage of a FY 2025 Budget by the House by October 1st.  If all those GOP Congressmen had time to attend Trump's trial, they must surely be almost done with their day job - passing bills of appropriation on time.

Thank you..I appreciate it..

[Bigun]

   Jim Jordan is reminding me more each day of Darrell Issa and Trey Gowdy.  All hat and no cattle.

 

[Cyber Liberty]

I thought you did yesterday (unlocked it)?

I was going to, but I forgot.  I blame the Stuffed Shells that landed on my plate last night...LOL!

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1796586871646306803

[mystery-ak]

This is rich!

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1796585709853139027

[Hoodat]

RFK Jr unleashes on Biden, Dems after accusing them of 'weaponizing' courts against Trump

'This will backfire in November,' Robert F Kennedy wrote on X

Brandon Gillespie  |  May 31, 2024 8:00am EDT

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. had some harsh words for President Biden and the Democratic Party following former President Trump being found guilty in his New York City criminal trial on Thursday.

Kennedy, a thorn in the side of Democrats who are worried he might derail Biden's chances at winning re-election, wrote in a post on X that the verdict would ultimately "backfire" and accused his former party of attempting to destroy democracy.

"The Democratic Party's strategy is to beat President Trump in the courtroom rather than the ballot box. This will backfire in November. Even worse, it is profoundly undemocratic," Kennedy wrote.

https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1796320918156841339

"America deserves a President who can win at the ballot box without compromising our government’s separation of powers or weaponizing the courts. You can’t save democracy by destroying it first," he wrote. "The Democrats are afraid they will lose in the voting booth, so instead they go after President Trump in the courtroom."   .  .  .

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rfk-jr-unleashes-biden-dems-after-accusing-them-weaponizing-courts-against-trump

[Bigun]

This is rich!

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1796585709853139027

Meanwhile Trump breaks fundraising records! These people are a joke! A sick one!

[libertybele]

One thing that Trump did say in his speech and I think he finally realizes:

"It's very important, far beyond me," Trump said about the case. "And this can't be allowed to happen to other presidents. It should never be allowed to happen in the future. But this is far beyond me. This is bigger than Trump. This is bigger than me. This is bigger than my presidency," he said.

I've been bombarded by text today asking for money for Trump. $$ isn't going to fix this problem nor is electing Trump going to fix this problem.  535 members of Congress watched this happen and those in the GOP need to realize that they are next.  Anyone voting GOP also needs to realize that they could be next.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/may-31-trump-guillty-verdict

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/_johnnymaga/status/1796578056871809522

[catfish1957]

Well, I admit I hate it too...but TBR isn't FR...maybe he will change it..

Agreed... 

[Hoodat]

you've already pooh-poohed and denied the crimes when others have specified them. If you continue to try to egg me on I will consider it harassment.

Are you feeling micro-aggressed?  I simply asked you to back up your statement.  Clearly, you cannot.

The Trump verdict convicted him of 34 felonies.  Yet you cannot identify a single felony.  Not a one.  And when this truth is stated, you cry 'harassment'?  Dang, you sound just like a leftist flake.

[DCPatriot]

Can The Supreme Court Intervene After Trump’s Conviction? Legal Experts Say Yes.
By  Zach Jewell

May 31, 2024   DailyWire.com



excerpt:

Attorney Roger Severino, who is the vice president of Domestic Policy and the Joseph C. and Elizabeth A. Anderlik fellow at the Heritage Foundation, told “Morning Wire” on Friday that Trump’s legal team could make “constitutional arguments that his right to a fair trial was violated.”

“And the Constitution means something,” Severino added. “It means, if anything, you cannot jail political opponents because you don’t like what the American people are going to vote for.”

Severino said that he believes the Supreme Court will intervene in the case if Trump doesn’t win on appeal.

more at:


https://www.dailywire.com/news/can-the-supreme-court-intervene-after-trumps-conviction-legal-experts-say-yes?topStoryPosition=1