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LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« on: May 27, 2024, 06:00:41 pm »
Judgment week: How prosecutors will use the ‘other crime’ against Trump
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JUDGMENT WEEK: HOW PROSECUTORS WILL USE THE ‘OTHER CRIME’ AGAINST TRUMP. On Tuesday, a jury in Manhattan will hear closing arguments in the trial of former President Donald Trump. Local prosecutors allege Trump committed bookkeeping offenses as part of a conspiracy to corrupt the 2016 presidential election. The former president’s specific crime, prosecutors say, was labeling a nondisclosure agreement negotiated by his lawyer as a “legal expense” in Trump Organization books.

But bookkeeping offenses, even when done by Trump, are misdemeanors in New York, so prosecutors sought to raise the seriousness of the charge by alleging an additional crime. They haven’t said so precisely, but in court papers, they have offered a “theory” in which Trump, in addition to the bookkeeping, violated a New York state election law barring the “conspiracy to promote or prevent election … by unlawful means.” That is also a misdemeanor, but Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg argues that the two misdemeanors, when taken together, add up to 34 felony charges and a maximum sentence of 136 years in prison for Trump. Such is the state of the justice system in New York.

It doesn’t take a brilliant legal mind to see that it all depends — Trump’s future and the hopes of Democrats who seek to jail him and cripple his presidential candidacy — it all depends on that second misdemeanor, which the attorneys usually refer to as the “object crime.” So it is not surprising that there has been furious debate between the two sides about how Judge Juan Merchan will instruct the jury to consider the object crime when they decide Trump’s fate.

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LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2024, 06:02:56 pm »
Report: President Biden Plans to Comment on Anticipated Trump Trial Verdict

President Joe Biden is planning to make a public statement when a verdict is reached in the business records trial of former President Donald Trump, which could be as early as this week, according to a report.

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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2024, 06:41:56 pm »
What a damned mess.
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2024, 09:30:33 am »
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LIVE from the overflow room in the morning, the ICEBOX has turned into what feels like a SAUNA. It is hot and sticky. They have obviously turned off the AC all weekend, and we get to enjoy the built up heat of 13 floors below us as well as the sun beating on this building, which ironically looks similar to a communist bloc structure, all Memorial Day weekend.
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Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States and the leading candidate to become the 47th President of the United States has entered the steamy courtroom.

Today’s notable attendees include much of his family: Don Trump, Jr., Eric Trump, Lara Trump, Tiffany Trump, Michael Boulos, Steve Witkoff, Will Scharf, and Deroy Murdock.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2024, 09:38:41 am »
This feels like a Derek Chauvin repeat ... he has to be guilty because otherwise there will be riots.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2024, 09:44:42 am »
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Merchan has explained pre-summations to the jury.

Todd Blanche now gets up to give his Closing Argument to the jury in defense of President Trump.

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Merchan is explaining to the jury that “…under law, defense must sum up first and then the prosecution will follow. Then the lawyers will not be able to talk to you after.”
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The jury has entered the courtroom and they are now seated. They will first hear closing arguement from the Soros funded DA’s office, then from the former President’s defense team, and then…the verdict will be in their hands.

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This is a surprise, the Trump Defense Team will give their Closing Argument FIRST, before the Soros funded DA’s office.

Why wouldn’t the Trump Defense team get the last word?
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2024, 09:46:37 am »
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As in every state case, defense counsel will go first, and DA will follow
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Justice Juan Merchan just reminded the jury that Donald Trump's lawyers will be making their closing argument first, followed by prosecutors.

"Under our law, defense counsel must sum up first, and prosecutors must follow," the judge said.

Trump last night lamented that prosecutors would get the last word and claimed in a social media post that the set-up was "very unfair."

"WHY IS THE CORRUPT GOVERNMENT ALLOWED TO MAKE THE FINAL ARGUMENT IN THE CASE AGAINST ME?" Trump wrote in an all-caps post on Truth Social. "WHY CAN’T THE DEFENSE GO LAST? BIG ADVANTAGE, VERY UNFAIR. WITCH HUNT!"

But that's how trials work in every state case.

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Closing arguments could go beyond Tuesday
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Trump attorney Todd Blanche said he expects his closing argument to last two-and-a-half hours. Meanwhile, prosector Joshua Steinglass estimates that Bragg's office's argument will take between four or four-and-a-half hours.

Justice Merchan told the jury that he will let them decide whether they want to work late or not.

“If you decide you don’t want to work late today, we can finish it up tomorrow," he told the jury.

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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2024, 09:48:25 am »
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Blanche: “This case is about documents, it’s a paper case.”

“It’s not about an encounter with Stormy Daniels 18 years ago, an encounter that President Trump has denied.”

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Blanche: “You should want more than Michael Cohen.”

“You should demand more than a woman who said something happened in 2006.”

“The consequences for the lack of proof is simple…a not guilty verdict…PERIOD!”

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Blanche: It’s you all that will decide whether or not President Trump is guilty or innocent.

Continues: As I said on April 22nd, President Trump is innocent. The prosecution has not proven their case beyond a reasonable doubt.

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Blanche starts by thanking the jury for their juror service. We see you paying close attention and we appreciate that. We also hope you had a good long weekend.
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2024, 09:49:43 am »
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Blanche: “You cannot convict President Trump beyond a reasonable doubt without the word of Michael Cohen.”

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Blanche now says: “The (Trump Organization) bookings were accurate and there was no attempt of fraud.”

“There was no attempt at influencing the 2016 election by President Trump or the folks at AMI.”
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2024, 09:52:17 am »
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Blanche: Two things you need to find: 1) false entries and 2) that President Trump attempted to commit fraud.

“That is not all you need to find, but I suspect that you won’t have to go further, because the entries were correct and there was no attempt at fraud.”

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Blanche: “The words that Michael Cohen said to you on that witness stand matter. He took an oath, and he told you a number of lies, plain and simple.”

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Blanche: “You cannot convict President Trump beyond a reasonable doubt without the word of Michael Cohen.”
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2024, 09:53:19 am »
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Attorney calls Trump 'innocent,' attacks testimony from witnesses at trial

Trump attorney Todd Blanche started his opening arguments by claiming that Donald Trump is "innocent' and committed no crimes.

"President Trump is innocent, he did not commit any crimes, and the district attorney has not met their burden of proof, period," Blanche fired earlier.

Blanche has been picking at witnesses who appeared at trial, including Michael Cohen.

"The evidence should leave you wanting more. You should want and expect more than the testimony of Michael Cohen," Blanche said.

As for Keith Davidson, Stormy Daniels' attorney, he said a jury should "demand more" than his testimony because he "really was just trying to extort money from President Trump in the lead up to the 2016 election."

Regarding Daniels, who testified that she had sex with Trump at a golf course, Blanche said: “This case – this case is about documents. It’s a paper case. This case is not about an encounter with Stormy Daniels 18 years ago, an encounter President Trump has unequivocally and repeatedly denied ever occurred."
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2024, 09:54:16 am »
This feels like a Derek Chauvin repeat ... he has to be guilty because otherwise there will be riots.

This is such a bogus trial in yet another attempt to interfere with an election.

I think that they will fine him.  Jail time for an ex-president who is entitled to SS protection?

The judge should have dismissed this trial a long time ago. At best a hung jury.
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2024, 09:55:54 am »
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Blanche: “General practice (of Ms. Tarasov) is not proof of President Trump’s guilt, beyond a reasonable doubt.”

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Blanche brings up exhibit of an invoice sent by Cohen and the check signed by President Trump.

“It should not surprise you that President Trump was working early mornings and late nights in the White House.”

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Blanche: I don’t think there’s even a dispute about this, Cohen was rendering services from President Trump. In 2017, Michael Cohen was President Trump’s personal attorney.

This was true. Cohen testified that there were outstanding matters that he was dealing with for President Trump.
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“Cohen lied to you, he LIED to you!”

Blanche shows the jury how Cohen changed his testimony from when the prosecution questioned him about a Summer Zervos matter, to when the defense asked him. At first he said he had little to do with it, then when the defense presented evidence, Cohen changed his testimony to admit he was lead counsel.
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Blanche: “Michael Cohen was President Trump’s Presonal Attorney, period.”

Remember what Mr. Cohen said about a written retainer agreement between he and President Trump.

When pointing out that Cohen said there was never an expectation for a written retainer.

“THAT WAS A LIE!”

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Blanche is repeatedly making the point to the jury which undercuts the legal service description being wrong.

“He, meaning Mr. Cohen, was President Trump’s personal attorney period.”

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Blanche: “There is a reason why in life that usually the simplest answer is the right one. That’s not what Mr. Cohen told you on the stand. Mr. Cohen was paid to be President Trump’s attorney.”
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There’s no evidence that President Trump knew anything about this voucher system, NO EVIDENCE.”

“I don’t know how the government will address this, but if they try to read something from a book from a decade earlier, I would be very suspicious. A passage from a book, written by ghostwriters.”
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Blanche now on to the voucher system: “Ms. Tarasoff followed Mr. McConney’s advice, not Mr. Weiselberg and not Mr. Trump’s.”

“The government is trying to characterize what Mr. Tarasoff did was a crime. That is ABSURD!”
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Blanche going into an email titled: $$ from McConney to Tarasoff:

Email: “Please pay from the Trust. OK to pay as per agreeement with Don and Eric.”

Blanche: “There is no need to get approval from Don and Eric Trump if the conspiratorial agreement that the government wants you believe exists.”
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Blanche after saying you cannot convict President Trump:

“That is reasonable doubt. We have no burden to do anything. It is always the burden of the government.”
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Blanche: “As I just said, it matters where President Trump was during this time. He was constantly busy, people were constantly interrupting him. He was President of the United States. To believe he was in on this scheme.

And remember what the alleged scheme was: To book a legal expense as a legal expense. That he was somehow in on that, was absolutely absurd.”

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Blanche: “There was a lot of evidence about President Trump signing these checks starting in April of 2017.

As you heard from many of these witnesses, President Trump was very busy. He was running the country.

Ms. Westerhout told you that sometimes President Trump would look at the invoices, and sometimes he did not.

So you can’t convict President Trump because sometimes he looked at invoices, that he had full knowledge of what was happening. That is a stretch and that is reasonable doubt ladies and gentlemen.”

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Blanche on January-March 2017 checks to Cohen: “There is no evidence that President Trump had anything to do with any of these checks. As you know, they are signed by Eric Trump and Allan Weiselberg.”
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Blanche: All of that, ends the case, NOT GUILTY, end of case

The government has asked you to believe the man who testified over the last two weeks, Michael Cohen.

Cohen asked you to ignore the documents and believe that Michael Cohen was just going to work for free.

Do you believe that for a second? Do you believe that after getting stiffed for his bonus that he would do that. Do you think that’s the truth or a lie?
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Blanche: The idea that President Trump would agree to pay Michael Cohen $420K when he only owed him $130K is absurd.

So he wants you to believe that President Trump saw this piece of paper and paid an extra $300k on top of it.

THAT IS ABSURD! All the other testimony you’ve heard is how President Trump would closely watch his finances. Remember, pay as little as possible.
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Before the jury entered, the judge told the parties not to go into the law, “that will be my job.” That is precisely what worries many of us. Merchan has proven a minimalist judge giving the defendant the bare minimum of protections at every turn...

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...The fraud instruction alone is so generalized that it would seem to encompass any claim that the defendant sought to influence the election through his actions. Merchan has done little to tailor standard instructions for this novel and frankly troubling case...

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...The judge has allowed this jury to believe that there were federal election violations by Trump and his campaign. At the same time, he has allowed the jury to disagree on what crime was being committed and still treat the verdict as unanimous.
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My note: Blanche’s point about Trump having to sign off on doubling payment to Cohen is perfect. President Trump would never overpay for anything, he has always prided himself on finding the best deal he can, at all times.


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Blanche: If accept Mr. Cohen’s version of what happened, that Mr. Trump, Mr. Weiselberg and Mr. Cohen had this conspiracy. But the document that the people offer to prove it is a lie. That they say to ‘gross it up’ is an absolute lie.
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« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2024, 10:34:51 am »
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Blanche: “Where is the evidence of the intent to defraud by President Trump?”

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Blanche makes a very good point: This is a case about false business records, yet the documents were presented by the defense. These records that the government says were schematory.

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Blanche: “Mr. Cohen wants you to believe that on February 8th, he’s in the Oval Office with President Trump for the very first time, having this schematory agreement with President Trump, but just 6 days later, Cohen FORGOT how much he was owed?”

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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2024, 10:36:09 am »
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BREAKING: THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS HOLDING A PRESS CONFERENCE OUTSIDE THE TRUMP COURTHOUSE WITH SPECIAL GUESTS

This confirms who's been behind it all along
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2024, 10:39:18 am »

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Blanche: So again, how can there be an attempt to defraud by President Trump if he: 1) Discloses it to IRS, 2) tweets about it, and 3) discloses it on his government ethics forms.

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Blanche: “The payments were compensation to Mr. Cohen from President Trump for legal services. There is nothing wrong with that.”

“How else do you know there’s no attempt to defraud. Well you also saw that President Trump sent out a tweet in 2018, saying exactly what he did. If there was an attempt to defraud, why would he do that?”

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Blanche: If there was some deep rooted attempt to defraud, why do you think it was reported to the IRS as exactly what it was (regarding the 1099 of the legal services Cohen provided)?

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Blanche: “Where is the evidence of the intent to defraud by President Trump?”
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« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2024, 10:44:22 am »
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Blanche now making the point that Ron Perlman and Ari Emmanuel worked with the media to help themselves and their candidates to help shine them in the best light.

“This is not a crime. Mr. Pecker even said that this was ‘standard operating procedure.’” That’s what happens in campaigns.

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Blanche: Let’s talk for a minute about this August 2015 meeting between Michael Cohen, David Pecker and President Trump, and Hope Hicks supposedly was in-and-out.

This is the same thing AMI had been doing for decades, per Mr. Peckers testimony. They had been doing this for Mr. Trump since the 90’s.

Tiger Woods did this, so did Mark Wahlberg.
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Blanche: There is nothing wrong with a politician like President Trump trying to get positive news stories and avoid negative stories. That’s a campaign, there is nothing illegal about that.

The idea that people could believe that stories in the National Enquirer could influence the 2016 election, at a circulation of only 350k people, compared to the multiples more by that New York Times and other outlets, is absurd.

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Blanche now bringing up Mr. Pecker’s testimony that he helped kill a story on Rahm Emmanuel, Ari Emmanuel’s brother, about an affair he had to help Rahm run for Mayor of Chicago.

Side note: Ari Emmanuel is the inspiration behind the hit HBO show Entourage; the character Ari is based of Ari Emmanuel. Rahm Emmanuel is Barrack Obama’s first Chief of Staff and is the former Mayor of Chicago.
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« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2024, 10:51:47 am »


https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1795465718537834535


https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1795465242194890851

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Blanche: “The idea that the National Enquirer could criminally influence the election by republishing a story that was already out there should make you shake your head. It makes NO SENSE!”

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My note: Blanche doing a wonderful job showing how flimsy the government’s case truly is.
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Blanche: “Mr. Cohen told you was that the reason why he recorded the conversation of his client, Mr. Trump, was to reassure Mr. Pecker that his repayment was coming. That’s what he told you.”

“But he testified that he never replayed the tape recording to Mr. Pecker.”

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Blanche now on to former Playboy playmate, Karen McDougal: “She did not want to sell her story, she had no interest in selling her story. How is that a ‘catch-and-kill’”.

“To be clear, it was not Ms. McDougal’s plan to publish her story. And the reason why the details matter is that because she never wanted her story published, she did not want to influence the election.”

“So she was paid $150k, no question about that. But remember, she had an entourage around her. Davidson took $45K, her bodyguard was compensated, Gina Rodriguez was compensated. So what Ms. McDougal got was not much. But it did not bother her, because she was not motivated to get her story out. She wanted to be published.”
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Blanche: “Mr. Cohen kept saying he wanted credit, time and again. That’s the exact same thing that Hope Hicks said to you about Mr. Cohen. He always wanted credit.”

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Blanche: When Mr. Pecker tells you that half the stories that the National Enquirer buys, they don’t publish, that never matters.

Now going on the Sajudin story about a made up love child that President Trump had.

Points out that if this story was true, Pecker said it would have sold 10 Million papers and he had a fiduciary duty to publish it.
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Blanche now playing the recording of Keith Davidson saying Stormy Daniels was motivated to extort President Trump and that she used the deadline of the 2016 election.

Before recording: Merchan asks if it’s a good time to take a break. Blanche agrees.

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Blanche: “You know that Mr. Davidson has made a career trying to extort people like he tried to extort President Trump.

Blanche mentions the Hulk Hogan sex video and Davidson’s involvement in it.

“You know that he did this with many celebrities in the past: Lindsay Lohan, Charlie Sheen and others.”

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Blanche: “If there was really a catch-and-kill conspiratorial relationship, then why did everyone ignore the story that came out in the Dirty in April of 2016, when it first resurfaced?”

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Blanche: “Mr. Davidson told you the reason why they wanted to get it down from the Dirty website was because they were trying to get a better deal, from In Touch or another magazine.”

(Showing money is a motive of the pornstar, Stormy Daniels)

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Blanche: “The last story we are going to talk about is about Stormy Daniels, this is an event that allegedly took place 18 years ago. A story that President Trump and Ms. Daniels repeatedly said did not take place.”

Continues: “This was already a published story in 2011, so how could it affect the 2016 election if it had already been published?”
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"Jurors, let's take a short break. I'll see you in ten minutes. You can step out," the judge says. Trump attorney Todd Blanche will resume his closing arguments after the break.
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« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2024, 11:46:03 am »
 And as Blanche goes after Cohen, he has to walk a fine line.  Remember, President Trump’s detractors will say – if this guy who was one of his closest employees/confidants was also very shady and underhanded – why did Trump put so much trust in him?  Does that say something about the defendant and his judgment about who was surrounding him and handling his issues? Was this guy in Trump’s employ BECAUSE he was able to get shady things done? Blanche also weaving in the frustrations Cohen had (the lower bonus) and going back over the calculations that lead to the admission that Cohen took more money than he was owed.  Again, planting the seeds that Cohen:  1.  Felt vengeful (which his testimony has only bolstered) and 2. That he cheated his own boss.

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https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1795478984932893009

I liked DeNiro as an actor and many of his roles in films.  As a person -he's a liberal whack-a-doo.

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This morning break is CRAZY. Blanche likely has less than 30 minutes left in his closing argument, however Merchan wants to interrupt it for a 10 minute break!?

Why not let Blanche finish, then go to lunch break?

We just took a 6 day break during this trial on taxpayer dollars, can we not do 2.5 straight hours without a break!?!
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Blanche: Remember that both Stormy Daniels has repeatedly denied that there was never any sex with Mr. Trump in 2018 and before that.

But what did you hear about those statements that the government would have you believe. That Ms. Daniels was coerced, that she was forced to sign them.

But remember, Ms. Daniels said she was forced to go public to defend herself after an alleged encounter in a Las Vegas parking lot in 2011. But having heard the recordings, you know that’s just not true. The recording makes clear that she lied to you about it. She was trying to get money from President Trump in the fall of 2016.

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Merchan says the jury is willing to work late,
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Blanche: “You heard that politicians reacted negatively to the Access Hollywood tape, that they might have discussed doing something consequential, they didn’t testify. President Trump responded to the tape, prepared for a debate and continued campaigning.”


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« Reply #47 on: May 28, 2024, 12:11:39 pm »
Trump behind bars by the end of the day?

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« Reply #48 on: May 28, 2024, 12:11:40 pm »
I am going to have to figure out a different way to do this especially for the prosecutors turn..they are expected to take 4hrs in closing ...maybe just a summation
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New exhibit up of what Cohen said to Davidson including recording from October of 2017:

“Who else would do that for somebody?”

“I wasn’t gonna play penny wise pound foolish.”


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Blanche: “Why did they call Stormy Daniels to testify?”

“They did it to try to inflame your emotions, they tried to embarrass President Trump.”

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Blanche: “The access Hollywood tape was not a doomsday event. President Trump never thought that. However, Michael Cohen had a different opinion.”
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