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« Reply #4355 on: August 26, 2024, 09:06:23 pm »
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« Reply #4356 on: August 26, 2024, 09:09:26 pm »
Approximate route of russian missiles and drones during mass attack today, 26-08-2024


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« Reply #4360 on: August 26, 2024, 09:16:42 pm »
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« Reply #4361 on: August 26, 2024, 09:17:36 pm »
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« Reply #4362 on: August 26, 2024, 09:19:48 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4363 on: August 26, 2024, 09:24:25 pm »
Massive Missile Strike on Odesa Injures 7, Including 3 Children

Ivan Khomenko  |  Aug 26, 2024  |  12:34



The aftermath of a Russian missile strike in Odesa. (Source: State Emergency Services)

On the morning of August 26, 2024, a massive missile attack on the Odesa region resulted in seven people being injured, including three children. This was reported by Odesa Regional Military Administration head Oleh Kiper and Odesa Mayor Hennadiy Trukhanov.

According to Oleh Kiper, among the injured are a 10-year-old boy, a 7-year-old boy, and a 10-year-old girl. All three children, along with four other injured individuals, were hospitalized in moderate condition and are receiving all necessary medical assistance. The total number of casualties is still being clarified.  .  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/massive-missile-strike-on-odesa-injures-7-including-3-children-1929


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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4364 on: August 26, 2024, 09:25:34 pm »
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4365 on: August 27, 2024, 10:35:03 am »

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1828003085056090177

Omsk is hundreds of miles from Ukraine. Ukraine's "arm" has grown long!

from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1f1r9z0/according_to_come_back_alive_foundation_a_single/

The Flakpanzer Gepard was brought into commission in Germany in the early 1970s and phased out of service in the early 2010s. It has two radar-direct 35 mm cannon. It's a good answer to drones, shells costing 10s of dollars (probably) downing drones costing hundreds or thousands of $$.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4366 on: August 27, 2024, 10:46:48 am »
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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« Reply #4367 on: August 27, 2024, 12:04:46 pm »
On TOS there was a post about Congress sending old Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine. I wish they'd hurry up and get it done so the Ukrainians can start bombing Moscow!  ****slapping
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« Reply #4368 on: August 27, 2024, 12:37:38 pm »
On TOS there was a post about Congress sending old Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine. I wish they'd hurry up and get it done so the Ukrainians can start bombing Moscow!  ****slapping

It's kind of interesting seeing Ukraine fighting off Russia's current weapons using obsolete and obsolescent Western weapons.
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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« Reply #4369 on: August 27, 2024, 06:54:41 pm »
It's kind of interesting seeing Ukraine fighting off Russia's current weapons using obsolete and obsolescent Western weapons.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4370 on: August 27, 2024, 07:06:32 pm »

Hundreds of Ukrainian troops 'attempt to break through Russian border points in new incursion bid' as battles continue in Kursk

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By Miriam Kuepper
27 August 2024

Hundreds of Ukrainian troops have reportedly attempted to break through Russian border points in a new incursion bid as battles continue in Kursk.

Russian Telegram channels with links to the security services said on Tuesday that Ukrainian forces had attacked a border post in Russia's southern Belgorod region, but there was no immediate official confirmation of fighting there.

Belgorod borders the Kursk region, where Ukrainian troops have seized Russian territory since staging a lightning incursion on August 6 and are still battling to seize more ground, with Kyiv saying it was making advances.

The Mash Telegram channel said around 500 Ukrainian troops had attacked two Russian checkpoints at Nekhoteyevka and Shebekino in the Belgorod region.

Mash said up to 200 Ukrainian soldiers with infantry fighting vehicles had tried to cross the border at Nekhoteyevka and were fired on by Russian artillery. It said about 300 Ukrainians had attacked the other checkpoint at Shebekino.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13783533/Hundreds-Ukrainian-troops-attempt-break-Russian-border-points.html
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« Reply #4371 on: August 27, 2024, 08:38:04 pm »
It will take a day or two for the goal(s) of Ukraine's attacks in Belgorod to become less unclear, but the two incursion points appear to be on the flanks of the stalled Russian attempt to take Kharkiv. So turning that Russian invasion/bulge into a pocket - or appearing to try to do that - is a possibility. Each incursion, as reported, is about the size of two US-Army-sized companies, once again not consistent with Ukraine-Haters' belief that Ukraine is bled white and barely able to hold back the Russians (of course, the 1-2 brigade-sized invasion of Kursk, currently "controlling" ~1300 square kilometers and marauding fairly freely in even more contradicts what Ukraine-Haters want to believe true).
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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« Reply #4372 on: August 27, 2024, 09:43:17 pm »
On TOS there was a post about Congress sending old Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine. I wish they'd hurry up and get it done so the Ukrainians can start bombing Moscow!  ****slapping

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« Reply #4380 on: August 27, 2024, 10:12:12 pm »
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« Reply #4382 on: August 27, 2024, 10:17:05 pm »
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« Reply #4383 on: August 27, 2024, 10:20:58 pm »
Russia's 'Massive Attack' on Ukraine Cost Moscow $1.3 Billion: Report

Isabel van Brugen  |  Aug 27, 2024 at 11:50 AM EDT


A large-scale Russian missile and drone barrage on Ukraine on Monday that killed at least five people and ravaged the country's energy infrastructure is estimated to have cost Moscow $1.3 billion.

The nationwide assault, which involved more than 100 missiles and 100 drones, was described by Ukrainian officials as one of the largest launched by Russia since its full-scale invasion of Ukraine began in February 2022.

"Like most Russian strikes before, this one was equally insidious, targeting critical civilian infrastructure," Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said of the attack. "The energy sector has sustained significant damage, but in every area affected by power outages, restoration work is already in progress."

Russia "launched a massive combined attack" on Ukraine "using various types of air-, land- and sea-based missiles," Ukraine's Air Force Commander Lieutenant General Mykola Oleschuk said Monday.

Oleschuk said Russia used 109 Shahed attack drones; 77 Kh-101 cruise missiles; three Kh-22 cruise missiles; 28 Kalibr submarine-launched cruise missiles; six Iskander-M ballistic missiles; three Kh-47M2 Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles; and 10 Kh-59/Kh-69 guided missiles.  .  . 

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-missile-drone-attack-ukraine-cost-1944739



Note:  This was a $1.3 billion attack exclusively against Ukrainian civilians.
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« Reply #4384 on: August 27, 2024, 10:24:23 pm »
Why Do Russians See Themselves as Victims? A Historian Explains “Imperial Innocence”

Yev_kopiika  |  Aug 27, 2024  |  16:08

Many Russians, even among those who oppose Russia’s war against Ukraine, still hesitate to take responsibility, blaming the invasion on NATO provocation or conspiracy theories about US meddling and a coup. Experts say that this is because the “victim” mentality persists in Russian society today. But why is that?


Some point to the historical brutality of Russian regimes or even the difficult situation in the 1990s. But some oppose this notion, reasonably pointing out that not only Russia but Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and other countries in Central and Eastern Europe and Central Asia experienced a brutal Soviet regime and even more difficult 1990s. While Russia was aided by the West to recover from collapse, these countries were not or much less so. Yet, neither Ukraine nor Kazakhstan initiated brutal wars while portraying themselves as victims.

So, for some experts, the difference between Ukraine and Kazakhstan, as opposed to Russia, is clear: Ukraine and Kazakhstan were colonies of an empire, while Russia was the empire. But what about today? Is Russia still an empire?

That was the first question that I asked Dr. Botakoz Kassymbekova, an Assistant Professor in Modern History at the University of Basel, specializing in Soviet and Russian imperial history.

“There is a consensus that the Russian Empire before 1917 was a colonial empire. Simply because there were concepts like ‘others’ and ‘legal others,’ which means that those who were considered as ‘aliens’ (inorodtsy) were subject to a different legal regulation. However, during the Soviet period, nominally, there was one constitution for everyone. This led many to conclude that the Soviet empire was not colonial,” she says.

That’s what Dr. Kassymbekova’s work is about: explaining why this is not true and why we cannot apply Western concepts to understand the Soviet Union.

“We know that in January 1991, when Lithuania was the first republic to actually proclaim its independence, it did so based on the Soviet Constitution, which granted all republics the right to leave the Union. Yet, when Lithuania declared independence, the military violently suppressed this decision. So, what was written in the Constitution had little to do with reality. Therefore, we need a different analysis and explanation for the coupling of a dictatorship, totalitarian regime  .  .

https://united24media.com/world/why-do-russians-see-themselves-as-victims-a-historian-explains-imperial-innocence-1935
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« Reply #4385 on: August 27, 2024, 10:27:21 pm »
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« Reply #4386 on: August 27, 2024, 10:27:56 pm »
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« Reply #4387 on: August 27, 2024, 10:33:54 pm »
Ukraine’s F-16s Have Scored Their First Aerial Kills

The nimble jets reportedly shot down Russian cruise missiles on Monday.

David Axe  |  Aug 27, 2024  |  04:18pm EDT


Ukraine’s ex-Danish Lockheed Martin F-16s have scored their first aerial victories. According to Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, the supersonic F-16s shot down Russian cruise missiles during the Russian air raids targeting Ukrainian cities on Monday.

The shoot-downs came three weeks after the first of the nimble F-16s, out of around 85 that Belgium, Denmark, The Netherlands and Norway have pledged, arrived in Ukraine.

“It is excellent to see them in action,” wrote Joni Askola, a Finnish analyst.

It was apparent early on that the Ukrainian air force would assign the F-16s to air-defense duty. They’ve been seen flying with pairs of AIM-9 infrared-guided air-to-air missiles and AIM-120 radar-guided air-to-air missiles. They haven’t been seen with air-to-ground ordnance, even though they are widely compatible with Ukraine’s best Western-made anti-radar missiles and GPS-guided glide bombs.

It makes sense for the F-16s to fly air-defense patrols. Ukraine is under relentless attack from the air—and its armed forces are mobilizing every available weapon to blunt the daily raids.

Monday’s early-morning attacks were the worst so far of Russia’s 29-month wider war on Ukraine. Hundreds of Russian ballistic and cruise missiles and explosive drones—fired by warships and heavy bombers and launchers on the ground—pummeled Kyiv and other cities  .  .  .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/08/27/ukraines-f-16s-have-scored-their-first-aerial-kills/
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« Reply #4388 on: August 28, 2024, 08:14:25 am »
Yeah, it would be stupid to waste them in a ground attack role where they would be extremely vulnerable to shootdown.  Air-to-air defense over Ukraine is the wisest use for them, based in the far western part of the country.
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« Reply #4389 on: August 28, 2024, 10:29:01 am »
from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1f2j3b1/the_russian_army_constructed_a_4th_pontoon_bridge/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXEUNh4dCmc

This video looks at Russia's ongoing bridges saga:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1PNyyddlBo

At some point Russia is going to figure out that the specialized equipment and materials being destroyed and the man-hours and personnel being lost are more valuable than the troops who would be abandoned, and cease their bridging efforts.
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« Reply #4390 on: August 28, 2024, 12:12:44 pm »
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« Reply #4391 on: August 28, 2024, 02:56:42 pm »
Zelensky Says Ukraine Will Prepare Peace Plan by November to Share with Trump and Harris

Frances Martel 28 Aug 2024

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told reporters Tuesday that his country will “finalize” a peace plan to end the Russian invasion by November — the month of the scheduled American presidential election.

Zelensky said that he hoped to present the plan to leftist American President Joe Biden and the top two candidates vying to replace him, his Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump. He added that Ukraine is also planning to host a second iteration of the “peace summit” hosted by Switzerland in June, which Russia did not participate in and resulted in no significant changes on the battleground.

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« Reply #4392 on: August 28, 2024, 09:05:37 pm »
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« Reply #4393 on: August 28, 2024, 09:07:18 pm »
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« Reply #4394 on: August 28, 2024, 09:12:49 pm »
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« Reply #4397 on: August 28, 2024, 09:14:40 pm »
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« Reply #4398 on: August 28, 2024, 09:21:07 pm »
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« Reply #4399 on: August 28, 2024, 09:22:31 pm »
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