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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4200 on: August 20, 2024, 08:25:01 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 20, 2024, 06:50:51 pm
Whooooooaaaaa....  I like the sentiment, but zapping 7.8 mbd off the world oil markets might not be an outcome we want. 

These kind of events could trigger a world economic meltdown, especially if it causes oil to rocket up to $120-150/bbl

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4201 on: August 20, 2024, 10:56:51 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 20, 2024, 03:44:45 pm
I understand the infrastucture of this country's oil industry better than Russia, but ROSNEFT has to be feeling some nervousness.  Putin loses his hydrocarbon revenue stream?  Things are going to get really tough for the Putin's soldiers who basically might become stranded due to lack of resources.

My eyes aren't exactly "map-calibrated", but from my vantage point it looks like  5 of 9 of Russia's refineries (and association hardwared infrastructure) is within 500 miles of Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4202 on: August 21, 2024, 12:52:49 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4203 on: August 21, 2024, 12:53:14 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4204 on: August 21, 2024, 12:58:18 am »
Half a Russian battalion is surrounded in Malaya Loknya.  Here's a German Marder lighting it up:


from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1ex9zo8/ua_drone_films_a_ukrainian_marder_ifv_of_the_95th/
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4205 on: August 21, 2024, 01:01:43 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4206 on: August 21, 2024, 01:02:08 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4207 on: August 21, 2024, 01:04:29 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4208 on: August 21, 2024, 01:05:54 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4209 on: August 21, 2024, 01:07:47 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4210 on: August 21, 2024, 01:11:51 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4211 on: August 21, 2024, 01:17:31 am »
First documented loss of a Russian KamAZ Typhoon MRAP

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4212 on: August 21, 2024, 01:19:43 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4213 on: August 21, 2024, 01:25:44 am »
Russian Soldier Defects to Ukraine After Sabotaging 'Storm Z' Battalion Headquarters

Ivan Khomenko  |  Aug 20, 2024  |  17:16

A Russian soldier has defected to Ukraine after successfully carrying out an operation codenamed “Ocheret,” which involved the sabotage of a “Storm Z” battalion headquarters. This operation was conducted with the involvement of the “I Want to Live” project and the Legion “Freedom of Russia.”

According to reports, a 24-year-old Russian FPV pilot with the callsign “Silver” made contact with the Legion “Freedom of Russia” in the winter of 2024. His decision to cooperate with Ukraine was driven by systemic crimes committed by the battalion’s command, including extrajudicial executions, beatings, and extortion.

As part of his cooperation with Ukrainian forces, “Silver” provided valuable intelligence on the location, strength, and intentions of enemy forces on a specific front. In May 2024, he executed a plan involving the throwing of grenades into the ventilation shaft of the battalion’s underground headquarters, where the battalion commander and other officers were sleeping. The explosion resulted in serious injuries to several officers.

Following the operation, “Silver” used a pre-planned escape route to flee and crossed into Ukrainian-controlled territory.  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russian-soldier-defects-to-ukraine-after-sabotaging-storm-z-battalion-headquarters-1843
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4214 on: August 21, 2024, 01:27:17 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4215 on: August 21, 2024, 01:36:36 am »
The "military" who demanded that the Kursk men take up arms turned out to be the owner of the funeral business

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The "military" who criticized the Kursk men for leaving the region after the start of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine turned out to be an entrepreneur from St. Petersburg, earning money on funeral services, the Agency found out.

The day before, propagandist Dmitry Steshin posted a video in which a certain "serviceman" addressed men leaving the Kursk region. I would like to appeal to the male population of Kursk: what the did you confuse in the region? Where are you going, dear? If, f**k, all our men turn on the back and leave the cities that will be hit, f**k, and so on, what will happen in general? What are you doing? Can't you take up arms? Well, then take shovels,, dig trenches for the guys, I don't know, deliver food,. Where are you going?" he said.

As it turned out, the "military" turned out to be a resident of St. Petersburg, Kirill Suvorov, the director of a company that makes monuments for tombstones and helps bury dead soldiers. Suvorov's company also offers services for the delivery of "cargo 200".  .  .

https://www.moscowtimes.eu/2024/08/20/potrebovavshii-otkurskih-muzhchin-vzyat-vruki-oruzhie-voennii-okazalsya-vladeltsem-pohoronnogo-biznesa-a139837
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4216 on: August 21, 2024, 01:43:00 am »
Russia Launches New Drone Weapons Against Kursk Offensive

David Hambling  |  Aug 20, 2024  |  06:10am EDT



Ukraine’s advance into Kursk succeeded with the help of an electronic warfare blitz that blinded Russia’s reconnaissance drones and knocked their FPVs out of the sky. Now Russia is striking back with new drones guided by fiber optics which are immune to radio jamming. This is the first time such weapons have been used in combat.*

It is another reminder of just how fast small drones are evolving. And a warning to the rest of the world, which relies heavily on jamming to protect itself against drone attacks by terrorists.  .  .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2024/08/20/russia-launches-new-drone-weapons-against-kursk-offensive/
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4217 on: August 21, 2024, 01:43:54 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4218 on: August 21, 2024, 01:47:56 am »
Russian Strike Hits Children’s Café in Ukraine, Injuring Three Children

Ivan Khomenko  |  Aug 20, 2024  |  20:03

Malokaterynivka, Zaporizhzhia Oblast — A Russian military strike on a children’s café in Malokaterynivka has resulted in injuries to three children. One of the injured is reported to be in serious condition.

Ivan Fedorov, head of the Zaporizhzhia Regional Military Administration, reported the incident via his Telegram channel. According to the regional administration’s press service, the children’s café was directly hit, leading to the injuries of three children, with one in critical condition.



The air raid alert in the region lasted for ten minutes, from 15:47 to 15:57. The military had warned of a potential threat from ballistic weaponry.

This attack is part of a broader pattern of strikes. Earlier in the night and morning of August 20, Russian forces attempted to strike Kyiv region  .  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russian-strike-hits-childrens-cafe-in-ukraine-injuring-three-children-1849
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4219 on: August 21, 2024, 01:51:18 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4220 on: August 21, 2024, 01:53:01 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4221 on: August 21, 2024, 01:53:25 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4222 on: August 21, 2024, 12:41:38 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 21, 2024, 01:27:17 am


Ukraine has blown the bridges on the river that runs Komarovka-Glushkovo-Alekseyevka. This traps Russian forces south of that river and blocks major reinforcement and supply to whatever forces are thus trapped. Russia built a couple of pontoon bridges, but these have limited capacity, and Ukraine knocked them out in a day or two.
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« Reply #4223 on: August 21, 2024, 03:08:03 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on August 21, 2024, 12:41:38 pm
Ukraine has blown the bridges on the river that runs Komarovka-Glushkovo-Alekseyevka. This traps Russian forces south of that river and blocks major reinforcement and supply to whatever forces are thus trapped. Russia built a couple of pontoon bridges, but these have limited capacity, and Ukraine knocked them out in a day or two.

Ukraine is allowing one of the pontoon bridges to remain open because it makes it easy to target vehicles waiting to cross.  Lesson learned from Antietam.  One of the earlier posts shows a group of vehicles smoking near that pontoon bridge.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4224 on: August 21, 2024, 04:04:35 pm »
Sun Tzu also says:

"Always give your enemy a way out. If you totally surround them, they will fight even more fiercely. With a way out, they will not."
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