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Title: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: mystery-ak on May 29, 2019, 12:03:26 am
Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
By Zack Budryk - 05/28/19 07:30 PM EDT




Donald Trump Jr. lambasted former Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore amid reports the former Alabama chief justice may again challenge Sen. Doug Jones (D-Ala.) in 2020.

“You’re literally the only candidate who could lose a GOP seat in pro-Trump, pro-USA ALABAMA. Running for office should never become a business model,” President Trump’s eldest son tweeted Tuesday. “If you actually care about #MAGA more than your own ego, it's time to ride off into the sunset, Judge.”

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/445854-trump-jr-blasts-reported-roy-moore-senate-bid-its-time-to-ride-off-into-the
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bill Cipher on May 29, 2019, 12:04:12 am
Ouch!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 29, 2019, 12:06:03 am
Burn....  He is right..
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2019, 12:08:29 am
ROFL!

This thread should be SPECTACULAR!!!!     :2popcorn:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2019, 12:10:31 am
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Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2019, 12:15:06 am
He's correct.  Roy Moore is sooo yesterday.    A walking Frag grenade.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 29, 2019, 02:00:34 am
He's correct.  Roy Moore is sooo yesterday.    A walking Frag grenade.
Agreed
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2019, 02:06:10 am
Agreed

 :beer:

  Who needs that added drama with the Southern States already planting flags on  Abortion Hill???   :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sighlass on May 29, 2019, 02:07:35 am
I have one bumper sticker on my Truck.... my old Roy Moore one was getting kinda ragged.... so I scraped it off and put on my new Roy Moore bumper sticker. If I have to write him in, I will vote for Roy.

Trump Junior can kiss my bumper.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: ABX on May 29, 2019, 02:09:05 am
I really can't argue with him on this.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2019, 02:10:51 am
I have one bumper sticker on my Truck.... my old Roy Moore one was getting kinda ragged.... so I scraped it off and put on my new Roy Moore bumper sticker. If I have to write him in, I will vote for Roy.

Even if a less controversial Conservative or Trump Supporter is running against him?   

You got some 'splain'n to do, @Sighlass        :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 29, 2019, 02:15:05 am
Even if a less controversial Conservative or Trump Supporter is running against him?   

You got some 'splain'n to do, @Sighlass        :laugh:

Why?  @Sighlass actually lives in Alabama. If I lived there I would be supporting Roy Moore as well.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sighlass on May 29, 2019, 02:19:22 am
Even if a less controversial Conservative or Trump Supporter is running against him?   

You got some 'splain'n to do, @Sighlass        :laugh:

You should know me by now, I vote the best man for the job even if I have to write them in. I don't care what others here think of how I vote except the Lord.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sanguine on May 29, 2019, 02:21:38 am
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Pass some of that over here, @corbe.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: txradioguy on May 29, 2019, 02:31:06 am
Because a hand picked candidate by Ol Turtle who'll vote all the time for what Mitch wants is a better alternative?

I thought the desire was to drain the swamp...not put another swamp lizard inside the beltway?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: txradioguy on May 29, 2019, 02:33:03 am
Even if a less controversial Conservative or Trump Supporter is running against him?   

You got some 'splain'n to do, @Sighlass        :laugh:

It won't be a Trump supporter...it will be a fully funded by Mitch McConnell candidate who won't do anything to fix what's wrong in D.C.

Moore is the Conservative in the state and well Turtle can't have many more like Cruz and Lee in the Senate...people might start to see McConnell for what he really is.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 29, 2019, 02:33:51 am
He's correct.  Roy Moore is sooo yesterday.    A walking Frag grenade.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 29, 2019, 11:59:09 am
I have one bumper sticker on my Truck.... my old Roy Moore one was getting kinda ragged.... so I scraped it off and put on my new Roy Moore bumper sticker. If I have to write him in, I will vote for Roy.

Trump Junior can kiss my bumper.


So you like losers???
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: txradioguy on May 29, 2019, 01:23:58 pm

So you like losers???

Kinda hard to win when you're being targeted by Progressive operatives.

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A trove of reports show two Obama-era officials are partially responsible for a misinformation campaign designed to derail Republican Roy Moore’s senatorial campaign in Alabama.

Former President Barack Obama campaign organizer, Mikey Dickerson, was instrumental in a disinformation campaign targeting Moore, reports show. He was not alone. Evan Coren, who has worked for the National Archives unit since Obama’s first term, also targeted the Republican’s campaign.

https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/01/07/alabama-false-flag-democrats/ (https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/01/07/alabama-false-flag-democrats/)
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: mystery-ak on May 29, 2019, 01:48:35 pm
Trump: 'Roy Moore cannot win' Alabama Senate seat
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/445882-trump-roy-moore-cannot-win-alabama-senate-seat
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 29, 2019, 01:54:38 pm
Trump: 'Roy Moore cannot win' Alabama Senate seat
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/445882-trump-roy-moore-cannot-win-alabama-senate-seat

Translation: The Swamp is not going to allow Roy Moore in Washington in any official capacity at any cost.  They are scared to death of him.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: txradioguy on May 29, 2019, 01:55:24 pm
 22222frying pan
Translation: The Swamp is not going to allow Roy Moore in Washington in any official capacity at any cost.  They are scared to death of him.

QFT
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sighlass on May 29, 2019, 03:21:49 pm

So you like losers???

I do like TBR.... so you decide.

I also like Jesus and those not afraid to mention him in politics. The proof for John the Baptist that Jesus was the Christ was that the blind see, the lame walk and the majority are "offended" by Him. Offend away with the rest of the majority here.

"Blessed is he who is not offended because of Me" (Mat. 11:6; Luke 7:23).

I sorta laugh when I come to these Roy Moore threads.... It reminds me of Mathew 15:12.... GOP Pharisees being offended.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sighlass on May 29, 2019, 03:23:58 pm
Translation: The Swamp is not going to allow Roy Moore in Washington in any official capacity at any cost.  They are scared to death of him.

Yep, he has proven time and time again he can not be tainted and that scares the devil out of the establishment.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 29, 2019, 03:33:46 pm
Translation: The Swamp is not going to allow Roy Moore in Washington in any official capacity at any cost.  They are scared to death of him.
If I lost a seat in a state that is 2:1 Republican, they'd be scared of me, too! He has proven he cannot win. That is all that matters.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2019, 03:45:38 pm
Yep, he has proven time and time again he can not be tainted and that scares the devil out of the establishment.

I have to disagree.  IMO, it's because his personal belief system and his personality provide the opposition too many sound bites to paint Conservatives in general as less than intelligent and/or bigots.

Burn me once...shame on you.  Burn me twice...shame on me.   DJT, Jr. is right.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: txradioguy on May 29, 2019, 03:46:59 pm
If I lost a seat in a state that is 2:1 Republican, they'd be scared of me, too! He has proven he cannot win. That is all that matters.

So one race lost out of how many political campaigns he's run within the state?

Good thing we didn't just someone like Reagan so harshly after he lost the 1976 nomination to Ford after the 3rd recount.

Imagine if we'd held Lincoln to that standard of one lost political race and you're done.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 29, 2019, 03:53:58 pm
So one race lost out of how many political campaigns he's run within the state?

Good thing we didn't just someone like Reagan so harshly after he lost the 1976 nomination to Ford after the 3rd recount.

Imagine if we'd held Lincoln to that standard of one lost political race and you're done.
Oh, please. Reagan was running against an incumbent. In a primary. (Which, by the way, Moore also lost two of those. Fourth in a six-way race for the Governor nomination in 2010, lost 2-to-1 in the primary for Governor in 2006.)

Why don't we go dig up Harold Stassen under that logic?!

Roy Moore lost a race that any other Republican COULD NOT HAVE POSSIBLY LOST. That level of absolutely stunning incompetence should be a complete disqualification for the office until he proves he can win at a lower level. He destroyed his own credibility.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 29, 2019, 04:34:52 pm
If I lost a seat in a state that is 2:1 Republican, they'd be scared of me, too! He has proven he cannot win. That is all that matters.

LOTS of brainwiped people on TBR when it comes to Roy Moore it seems to me.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 29, 2019, 04:35:09 pm
Oh, please. Reagan was running against an incumbent. In a primary. (Which, by the way, Moore also lost two of those. Fourth in a six-way race for the Governor nomination in 2010, lost 2-to-1 in the primary for Governor in 2006.)

Why don't we go dig up Harold Stassen under that logic?!

Roy Moore lost a race that any other Republican COULD NOT HAVE POSSIBLY LOST. That level of absolutely stunning incompetence should be a complete disqualification for the office until he proves he can win at a lower level. He destroyed his own credibility.


Maybe if spent more time campaigning, had a sane plan (Going after Mitch is not a plan), actually debated Doug Jones he could have won. But he lost fair and square.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: txradioguy on May 29, 2019, 04:40:19 pm
Roy Moore lost a race that any other Republican COULD NOT HAVE POSSIBLY LOST. That level of absolutely stunning incompetence should be a complete disqualification for the office until he proves he can win at a lower level. He destroyed his own credibility.

Interesting how you completely ignore the dirty tricks that were played by Dem operatives to purposely torpedo his chance at winning.

Again let me ask you...why do you prefer a hand picked McConnell swamp rat who will say what Mitch wants said and vote the way Mitch wants him or her wants them to vote?

I thought the point was to drain the swamp...not put more swamp rats in it.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 29, 2019, 04:44:31 pm
Why?  @Sighlass actually lives in Alabama. If I lived there I would be supporting Roy Moore as well.
Yep. Me, too.

Junior has no perspective. What other GOP candidate went up against the MSM/Fake News bimbotronic assault machine complete with fake social media campaigns, and without the support of the GOP? (who ditched him so fast, you'd think the Country Clubbers in the Swamp were in on the smears).

Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: txradioguy on May 29, 2019, 04:46:35 pm

Maybe if spent more time campaigning, had a sane plan (Going after Mitch is not a plan),

McConnell is part of the establishment...which is very much part of the problem in D.C.  How is that not part of a sane campaign plan?

Isn't the job of a Senator to represent the state's interests in D.C.?  If someone is getting in the way of that you campaing to ty and take care of the problem.


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actually debated Doug Jones he could have won.

There were some landmines that Moore wanted to avoid in the debates that would have given the Dems all kinds of fodder in attack ads...namely the issue of Transgenderism.  Moore's stance on that issue is based on his faith and we know how the media...and some so called "conservatives" love to mock religion.


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But he lost fair and square.

There was nothing "fair" about how Moore lost that race.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: txradioguy on May 29, 2019, 04:47:35 pm
LOTS of brainwiped people on TBR when it comes to Roy Moore it seems to me.

Lots of uninformed people where Moore is concerned too.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2019, 04:51:27 pm
   After thought:  Mo Brooks was the most qualified Conservative to run in that last AL Senate race but Trump on the advice and consent of Cocaine Mitch torpedoed his campaign, early and often as they are now doing to Roy Moore.
   A pox on all their houses.


   Disclaimer: I don't live in Alabama so my opinion means squat.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 29, 2019, 04:53:52 pm

@iowahawkblog
·
3h
Prom season is over, so I guess he has time on his hands
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 29, 2019, 04:57:13 pm
His official campaign theme song:
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FIFY
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 29, 2019, 05:02:36 pm
I have to disagree.  IMO, it's because his personal belief system and his personality provide the opposition too many sound bites to paint Conservatives in general as less than intelligent and/or bigots.

Burn me once...shame on you.  Burn me twice...shame on me.   DJT, Jr. is right.
You get a New York centric Mass Media who know all about the South because they watched Beverly Hillbillies and Dukes of Hazard, they're going to paint most anyone from south of the Mason Dixon Line as a dumb hick.

In some states, that's unavoidable, but the locals know better. In Moore's last run, the media campaign kept voters home with lurid tales of diddling little girls. Now that the truth is out, he just might fare a bit better. I'd vote for him, but, dagnabit, I'm one of those 'hicks from down south', (even though I live up Nawth and can't).
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2019, 05:11:46 pm
   This Thread is useless without @Catherine of Aragon 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: mystery-ak on May 29, 2019, 06:55:58 pm
Roy Moore: 'Everybody knows I can win'
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/446000-roy-moore-everybody-knows-i-can-win
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: thackney on May 29, 2019, 07:27:58 pm
:beer:

  Who needs that added drama with the Southern States already planting flags on  Abortion Hill???   :shrug:

The trend of states adding restrictions to abortion is not limited to Southern States.

Here’s Why The Anti-Abortion Movement Is Escalating
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/we-categorized-hundreds-of-abortion-restrictions-heres-why-the-anti-abortion-movement-is-escalating/

(https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/atd-ABORTIONREGULATIONS-01.png)
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Absalom on May 29, 2019, 07:35:29 pm
Hmm.......................
* The Republicrat Party has been DC establishment since Andrew Johnson.
Suggest a reality check for some!!!
* So we get a break from brainless tweets and who steps up???
Why the hairy sage. Boy are we blessed or what!!!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 29, 2019, 07:56:21 pm
Is Moore running?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 29, 2019, 07:58:06 pm
   This Thread is useless without @Catherine of Aragon

 ****slapping :MiniGun:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 29, 2019, 08:12:54 pm
LOTS of brainwiped people on TBR when it comes to Roy Moore it seems to me.
Says the FairTax-hawking birther.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 29, 2019, 08:49:59 pm
LOTS of brainwiped people on TBR when it comes to Roy Moore it seems to me.

Agree.  And we love you anyway @Bigun
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: mystery-ak on May 29, 2019, 09:08:18 pm
Roy Moore says he won't listen to Trump telling him not to run
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/roy-moore-says-he-wont-listen-to-trump-telling-him-not-to-run (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/roy-moore-says-he-wont-listen-to-trump-telling-him-not-to-run)
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2019, 10:20:55 pm
Roy Moore: 'Everybody knows I can win'
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/446000-roy-moore-everybody-knows-i-can-win

See?  This is why Hillary's and Barry's methods are much more effective in dealing with this stuff.

Look, Roy.  You ain't running.  Look at this.    :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 29, 2019, 10:47:13 pm
Roy Moore says he won't listen to Trump telling him not to run
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/roy-moore-says-he-wont-listen-to-trump-telling-him-not-to-run (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/roy-moore-says-he-wont-listen-to-trump-telling-him-not-to-run)


What a dumba**..
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 29, 2019, 11:23:30 pm
Roy Moore says he won't listen to Trump telling him not to run
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/roy-moore-says-he-wont-listen-to-trump-telling-him-not-to-run (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/roy-moore-says-he-wont-listen-to-trump-telling-him-not-to-run)

Excellent news!  He shouldn't!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 29, 2019, 11:27:32 pm
Says the FairTax-hawking birther.

I don't care much for being a slave but apparently you love it.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 29, 2019, 11:35:57 pm
Excellent news!  He shouldn't!

Sure.  I can see the ads now from the judge pointing out how many libel/slander suits he's won against the women formerly known as teenagers.   :smokin:

The senate seat is more important than the ego of this three time loser.

Unless you like the liberal agenda.   :shrug:


Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 29, 2019, 11:47:17 pm
Sure.  I can see the ads now from the judge pointing out how many libel/slander suits he's won against the women formerly known as teenagers.   :smokin:

The senate seat is more important than the ego of this three time loser.

Unless you like the liberal agenda.   :shrug:

Oh! Thanks for reminding me!  What we need in the senate is one more Mitch butt boy!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 30, 2019, 12:05:21 am
I don't care much for being a slave but apparently you love it.

There are legitimate, non-slave reasons to not jump on that particular train yet.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 30, 2019, 12:07:02 am
Oh! Thanks for reminding me!  What we need in the senate is one more Mitch butt boy!

You mean the guy pushing through the President's judicial nominees and changing the face of the Federal judiciary?

THAT Mitch?

I don't understand why you are willing to fight for this three time loser, so beyond reason, and risk turning the Senate blue.

Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 30, 2019, 12:07:58 am
Oh! Thanks for reminding me!  What we need in the senate is one more Mitch butt boy!

For some odd reason, Mitch is willing to pull the GOP voters in AL apart to shaft conservatives nationwide.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 30, 2019, 12:09:11 am
There are legitimate, non-slave reasons to not jump on that particular train yet.

Really?  Care to point them out?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Mesaclone on May 30, 2019, 12:20:39 am
Really?  Care to point them out?

The rule is simple...The Buckley Rule.

"...the most right, viable candidate who could win."

Roy Moore has proven he loses elections. Nor is he the only "real" conservative in Alabama. Because of these two indisputable facts, there are only two kinds of Alabama voters who want him to run for state wide public office....Democrats...and fools...who are usually synonymous....though clearly that's not always the case.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 30, 2019, 12:34:20 am
Really?  Care to point them out?

Not on this topic. 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 30, 2019, 03:46:34 am
Not on this topic.

Start a thread!  Never mind! I no longer care. Sheep get what they deserve.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sighlass on May 30, 2019, 03:48:29 am

What a dumba**..

Have you ever spoke to Roy, shook his hand, had lunch with him... didn't think so.... and Roy is probable better off for it also.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 30, 2019, 04:45:26 am
Start a thread!  Never mind! I no longer care. Sheep get what they deserve.

i already said what i think about it on a thread on the subject, and I'n no sheep.  I don't care for the expression.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sighlass on May 30, 2019, 06:55:46 am
i already said what i think about it on a thread on the subject, and I'n no sheep.  I don't care for the expression.

Could be worse, I have been called a fool offhandedly in one post.

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there are only two kinds of Alabama voters who want him to run for state wide public office....Democrats...and fools...who are usually synonymous..

People here talk about Trump like he would run away with the election.... Well Biden is the fave democrat in state by like 18 points, but Warren vs Trump would have Warren beating Trump in state...

(https://i.postimg.cc/L4zw2p9p/Trump-vs-Warren.jpg)

Quit saying Trump carried the state without mentioning that he probable would not carry the state (yes Alabama) now.... perhaps he shouldn't run. You know, best viable candidate in a state that is mostly conservative and all that jazz yall have been saying.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-up-by-double-digits-in-democratic-race (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-up-by-double-digits-in-democratic-race)

Looks to me the rot started at the top... but I'm just a fool to the boot lickers. Made your bed now you can sleep in it.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 30, 2019, 09:39:56 am
Could be worse, I have been called a fool offhandedly in one post.

People here talk about Trump like he would run away with the election.... Well Biden is the fave democrat in state by like 18 points, but Warren vs Trump would have Warren beating Trump in state...

(https://i.postimg.cc/L4zw2p9p/Trump-vs-Warren.jpg)

Quit saying Trump carried the state without mentioning that he probable would not carry the state (yes Alabama) now.... perhaps he shouldn't run. You know, best viable candidate in a state that is mostly conservative and all that jazz yall have been saying.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-up-by-double-digits-in-democratic-race (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-up-by-double-digits-in-democratic-race)

Looks to me the rot started at the top... but I'm just a fool to the boot lickers. Made your bed now you can sleep in it.
Looks to me like there's a new swamp, a whole lot like the old swamp. Or maybe just the other side of the creek. Country club Republicans in DC were gaming this election for one of their circle when Moore got the nomination in the primary, and they really didn't relish the idea of a man who'd twice lost his job standing on Constitutional Principles as part of their bayou in DC. That's why the stories of them dropping support for Moore ran purt'near in the same issue as the breaking accusations of impropriety. Others, for whatever hot button got hit, couldn't throw Moore to the wolves fast enough, and remain adamant to this day. (Whatever their personal issues, I pray The Almighty brings them peace, at least enough to restore rational thought and the concept of innocent until proven guilty).

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Republican officials in Washington are reportedly committed to preventing Moore from winning the nomination after he lost to Jones in 2017 amid allegations of sexual misconduct involving underage girls. Moore has denied all the allegations.
The allegations were debunked, paid (fake) social media campaigns exposed, and timing was all aimed at scuttling Moore. Folks will believe the Washington Post at their peril.  Strange the story didn't break in Alabama.

While there are always those who will be in doubt, that air has been pretty much cleared, and Jones' agenda exposed.

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President Trump endorsed Moore’s primary opponent, former Alabama Attorney General Luther Strange, before endorsing Moore in the general election. After Jones’s victory, Trump Jr. sarcastically thanked former White House strategist Stephen Bannon, a major Moore backer, for his “good work.”


Did Trump Jr. get snotty with daddy, too?

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Trump Jr. previously urged West Virginia Republicans to vote against former coal executive Don Blankenship in the 2018 primary, writing “no more fumbles like Alabama.” Blankenship lost in the primary to West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey (R), who lost in the general election
"Good work", there, Junior.

For all you out there, keep in mind this isn't Daddy, it's Junior sharing his political prowess. He backed a loser in WVa, and is now telling everyone how to win in Alabama. Mebbe he should just hush up and let Alabamans decide.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 30, 2019, 12:09:25 pm
Have you ever spoke to Roy, shook his hand, had lunch with him... didn't think so.... and Roy is probable better off for it also.


I don't shake hands with pedophiles
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 30, 2019, 12:30:44 pm

I don't shake hands with pedophiles

But apparently you believe the lies and slander of the pedo loving Left.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 30, 2019, 12:32:41 pm
I tend to like Mo Brooks, but if Moore wins I would support him. I know my 'Bama cousins will.

This time though, Moore needs to campaign like he's losing, and work better to stay on point.

If he made any mistake last time, it was taking things for granted and not getting out there and working enough.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 30, 2019, 12:45:50 pm
Sure.  I can see the ads now from the judge pointing out how many libel/slander suits he's won against the women formerly known as teenagers.   :smokin:

The senate seat is more important than the ego of this three time loser.

Unless you like the liberal agenda.   :shrug:

The Dems took back the House last time by running relative centrists in districts where Trump had won.   In other words, they played smart.    Alabama Republicans itching for a re-match between Jones and Moore aren't playing smart;  as others have pointed out Moore is practically the only conservative who could lose a Senate seat to a Democrat in Alabama.    Jones this time around will have the power of incumbency,  and,  given that the numbers strongly favor the Dems to retake the Senate (most of those up for re-election this time are GOP),  flipping the Alabama seat becomes crucial.   

No time for clown shows, folks.    What's at stake in 2020 is, well, everything.         
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 30, 2019, 01:26:15 pm
i already said what i think about it on a thread on the subject, and I'n no sheep.  I don't care for the expression.

I'm well past the point of caring what you, or anyone else here, cares for.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 30, 2019, 01:28:15 pm
The Dems took back the House last time by running relative centrists in districts where Trump had won.   In other words, they played smart.    Alabama Republicans itching for a re-match between Jones and Moore aren't playing smart;  as others have pointed out Moore is practically the only conservative who could lose a Senate seat to a Democrat in Alabama.    Jones this time around will have the power of incumbency,  and,  given that the numbers strongly favor the Dems to retake the Senate (most of those up for re-election this time are GOP),  flipping the Alabama seat becomes crucial.   

No time for clown shows, folks.    What's at stake in 2020 is, well, everything.       

So sending another Mitch butt boy from Alabama is the answer?  I think not.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 30, 2019, 01:33:10 pm
So sending another Mitch butt boy from Alabama is the answer?  I think not.


I rather win with Mitch butt boys than lose the Senate by running losers like Moore (who got fired twice and lost three times).
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 30, 2019, 01:35:36 pm

I rather win with Mitch butt boys than lose the Senate by running losers like Moore (who got fired twice and lost three times).

What exactly do you "win" with people like that?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 30, 2019, 01:36:56 pm
If he made any mistake last time, it was taking things for granted and not getting out there and working enough.

Nah. He was ahead by 40 points before the smear campaign began. He was literally walking away with it.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 30, 2019, 01:39:02 pm
What exactly do you "win" with people like that?


Win by numbers... Not by losing.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 30, 2019, 01:41:07 pm
So sending another Mitch butt boy from Alabama is the answer?  I think not.
False dilemma. Plenty of more electable conservatives would be preferable to saddling to a three-time loser.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 30, 2019, 01:42:04 pm
I'm well past the point of caring what you, or anyone else here, cares for.
Then why do you keep posting your blatant falsehoods? Did we accidentally chop your legs off so you couldn't leave? Or was that just a flesh wound?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 30, 2019, 01:49:51 pm
Then why do you keep posting your blatant falsehoods? Did we accidentally chop your legs off so you couldn't leave? Or was that just a flesh wound?

Point out a single blatant falsehood I have posted @jmyrlefuller!  I dare you!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 30, 2019, 01:49:56 pm
No time for clown shows, folks.    What's at stake in 2020 is, well, everything.       

It is ALWAYS time for a showdown.
If we don't stand up for what we believe in, who will?
Dems and Repubs - Not a dime's worth of difference... And this is exactly why.
What's at stake this election year is no damn different form every other election year.

If you really want to change DC and drain the swamp, the only ones who will are actual Conservatives. Men not ashamed to stand upon principles.

Roy Moore is exactly that, and I would stand by him.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: LMAO on May 30, 2019, 01:51:44 pm

So you like losers???

This can and should be a seat the GOP easily should of held.

I agree with Jr here

Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 30, 2019, 01:52:01 pm
It is ALWAYS time for a showdown.
If we don't stand up for what we believe in, who will?
Dems and Repubs - Not a dime's worth of difference... And this is exactly why.
What's at stake this election year is no damn different form every other election year.

If you really want to change DC and drain the swamp, the only ones who will are actual Conservatives. Men not ashamed to stand upon principles.

Roy Moore is exactly that, and I would stand by him.


How is schmucks like Moore going to drain the swamp??
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 30, 2019, 01:53:28 pm

How is schmucks like Moore going to drain the swamp??

Maybe by forcing some actual adherence to the Constitution!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 30, 2019, 02:04:45 pm
So sending another Mitch butt boy from Alabama is the answer?  I think not.

That's a false choice,  notwithstanding your slander of the Senate majority leader,  who is doing more to advance conservative principles than anyone else in Washington, including the President.    You are suggesting there are no good conservatives in Alabama other than proven loser and accused bigot and pedophile Moore.    That's a sad reflection on the state of Alabama.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 30, 2019, 02:09:19 pm
That's a false choice,  notwithstanding your slander of the Senate majority leader,  who is doing more to advance conservative principles than anyone else in Washington, including the President.    You are suggesting there are no good conservatives in Alabama other than proven loser and accused bigot and pedophile Moore.    That's a sad reflection on the state of Alabama.   

I'm suggesting that Roy Moore spent his LIFE in the services of his country and state and is likely more conservative than all the rest put together!  Which is EXACTLY why they, and you, fear him so!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 30, 2019, 02:09:43 pm
It is ALWAYS time for a showdown.
If we don't stand up for what we believe in, who will?
Dems and Repubs - Not a dime's worth of difference... And this is exactly why.
What's at stake this election year is no damn different form every other election year.

If you really want to change DC and drain the swamp, the only ones who will are actual Conservatives. Men not ashamed to stand upon principles.

Roy Moore is exactly that, and I would stand by him.

Spoken from the perspective of a hermit on some mountain.   Folks like Roy Moore can't drain the swamp because they can't get elected to do so.   It is a pipe dream to think that your very narrowly-defined brand of conservatives can gain political power in D.C.   Unrealistic idealism is the refuge of those who don't choose to exist as members of a community.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 30, 2019, 02:13:39 pm
I'm suggesting that Roy Moore spent his LIFE in the services of his country and state and is likely more conservative than all the rest put together!  Which is EXACTLY why they, and you, fear him so!

I don't fear Roy Moore, other than for the damage he will do to the goal of keeping the Senate out of Democratic hands.   Remember,  the Senate is the body that confirms the judges.    Judicial appointments are where your sort of unalloyed conservativism can find purchase.   Allowing Doug Jones to be re-elected by supporting a turkey like Roy Moore is cutting off your nose to spite your face.   It's foolishness.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 30, 2019, 02:14:59 pm

How is schmucks like Moore going to drain the swamp??

The only thing (read ONLY) that will change DC is the application of Conservative principles.
The more Principled Conservatives, the more power toward Constitutional rule, fiscal responsibility, merit and values.
Nothing else will do.

Roy Moore is only one more Conservative, But when there is but a handful, every_single_one matters.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 30, 2019, 02:17:57 pm
I don't fear Roy Moore, other than for the damage he will do to the goal of keeping the Senate out of Democratic hands.   Remember,  the Senate is the body that confirms the judges.    Judicial appointments are where your sort of unalloyed conservativism can find purchase.   Allowing Doug Jones to be re-elected by supporting a turkey like Roy Moore is cutting off your nose to spite your face.   It's foolishness.

Bullcrap!  YOU in particular fear him and anyone like him to the inth degree!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 30, 2019, 02:21:00 pm

Spoken from the perspective of a hermit on some mountain.   Folks like Roy Moore can't drain the swamp because they can't get elected to do so.   It is a pipe dream to think that your very narrowly-defined brand of conservatives can gain political power in D.C.   Unrealistic idealism is the refuge of those who don't choose to exist as members of a community.

Speak for yourself.  I am very much in tune with folks wherever I go - Except Megalopolises, and the general area east of Michigan and north of the Mason-Dixon Line... And the Left Coast. My 'very narrowly defined' brand of Conservatism works everywhere else.

And my way of doing things ain't far removed from my brothers in Alabama. Far more akin mine then yours, no doubt.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 30, 2019, 02:21:05 pm
Bullcrap!  YOU in particular fear him and anyone like him to the inth degree!

The man's a fool.  Why would I fear him?    Why not nominate a conservative who can defeat Doug Jones?    No,  you'd rather pound your chest and "stick it" to folks like me. 

Don't be an idiot.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 30, 2019, 02:27:33 pm
I'm well past the point of caring what you, or anyone else here, cares for.

You shouldn't.  Thought we were better friends than to call each other sheep.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 30, 2019, 02:29:39 pm
On this topic:  I think the Republican voters of AL should decide this.  Not Mitch McConnell or Donald Trump.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 30, 2019, 02:33:35 pm
You shouldn't.  Thought we were better friends than to call each other sheep.   :shrug:

I wasn't referring to you specifically.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 30, 2019, 02:36:56 pm
I wasn't referring to you specifically.

I appreciate that.  I felt wounded. 

In a nutshell, the problem I have is I fear the loopy courts would permit Income and Consumption taxes together.  Make it impossible to return to an Income tax I'd switch to consumption in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 30, 2019, 02:42:53 pm
I appreciate that.  I felt wounded. 

In a nutshell, the problem I have is I fear the loopy courts would permit Income and Consumption taxes together.  Make it impossible to return to an Income tax I'd switch to consumption in a heartbeat.

The bill does EXACTLY that.  Including requiring the destruction of all IRS records.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 30, 2019, 02:46:30 pm
On this topic:  I think the Republican voters of AL should decide this.  Not Mitch McConnell or Donald Trump.

And of course they will.  Hopefully, they will do so by considering what's at stake for the nation.   Without flipping Alabama,  the chances are remote that the GOP can retain the Senate,  just based on the number of seats we will have to defend.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 30, 2019, 02:54:28 pm
Point out a single blatant falsehood I have posted @jmyrlefuller!  I dare you!
I already have, repeatedly, but you continue to recognize you are wrong. When I explained to you why you have no concrete evidence of your claim Obama is not an American citizen, you doubled down. When I explained the negative consequences and impossible claims of the FairTax using math, you denied it.

You continue to promote a three-time loser who could not win a non-judicial seat in three tries, in one of the most pro-Republican states in the union. He is not a savior, he is not the most conservative person in Alabama, and he is not the man for this race when we still have Mitt Romney, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski to fight against.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sanguine on May 30, 2019, 02:56:39 pm
The bill does EXACTLY that.  Including requiring the destruction of all IRS records.

To soften the blow, we could encourage IRS employees to apply for Border Patrol jobs.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 30, 2019, 02:56:40 pm
I already have, repeatedly, but you continue to recognize you are wrong. When I explained to you why you have no concrete evidence of your claim Obama is not an American citizen, you doubled down. When I explained the negative consequences and impossible claims of the FairTax using math, you denied it.

Your inability to understand something does not make a falsehood.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 30, 2019, 03:38:39 pm
Let's get back to the Roy Moore Topic.  By normal measures we should be clearing 450 posts on that subject alone...

@Bigun, I know you have at least one good thread on Fair tax...can you link it here?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: EdJames on May 30, 2019, 03:46:46 pm
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Did Trump, Jr. and his new squeeze re-locate to Alabama?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Mesaclone on May 30, 2019, 03:57:34 pm
Can someone please explain how nominating a candidate, who is likely the ONLY Republican candidate who is certain to LOSE this critically important Alabama Senate seat, advances conservatism?

The truth is, losing advances nothing AND Roy Moore is...again...far from the only solid Conservative in Alabama who can fill this seat. The proviso of the great Buckley is to choose the most conservative candidate who can win, not the most conservative candidate who will lose...his assertion is a great expression of common sense. Those supporting Moore, have sadly left common sense in the mud...they seem quite content to lose a key Senate seat so they can proclaim their conservative purity to the world.

Dumb. Just plain dumb.

Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 30, 2019, 04:18:16 pm
Can someone please explain how nominating a candidate, who is likely the ONLY Republican candidate who is certain to LOSE this critically important Alabama Senate seat, advances conservatism?

The truth is, losing advances nothing AND Roy Moore is...again...far from the only solid Conservative in Alabama who can fill this seat. The proviso of the great Buckley is to choose the most conservative candidate who can win, not the most conservative candidate who will lose...his assertion is a great expression of common sense. Those supporting Moore, have sadly left common sense in the mud...they seem quite content to lose a key Senate seat so they can proclaim their conservative purity to the world.

Dumb. Just plain dumb.

QFT.    Sometimes I get the impression that conservatives prefer to be back-benchers, able to revel in their purity and perfectly content to not get their hands dirty with the business of governance.

It's not easy to advance conservative priorities in this divided nation.   But there's one area where conservatives have been winning big - the unprecedented ability of this President and Senate to confirm conservative judges.    And in 2020 the GOP will be in a position similar to what the Dems were in in 2018 - most Senators facing election next year will be Republican incumbents.   That means that flipping Alabama back to the GOP side may have profound ramifications,  and Doug Jones' re-election could mean the tide of conservative judges will grind to a halt.   

That's why who the Alabama GOP nominates is of importance to far more than the Republicans of Alabama.   Roy Moore is the stupidest choice possible,  and I trust that Alabamans will be able to resist the urge to romance this fool again.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: aligncare on May 30, 2019, 04:36:24 pm
I didn’t like the way they went after Moore in their standard, coordinated, media smear campaign, right out of the democrats’ playbook, and I defended him then.

Unfortunately, Roy Moore is no Donald Trump and didn’t have Trump’s pugnacious abilities to fend off his opponents attacks and Moore lost. His reputation and the perception that he can win was severely damaged. A damaged candidate is not a good bet on which to risk the farm.

So for the good of the senate republican majority he should not seek the nomination.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2019, 06:45:47 pm
The man's a fool.  Why would I fear him?    Why not nominate a conservative who can defeat Doug Jones?    No,  you'd rather pound your chest and "stick it" to folks like me. 

Don't be an idiot.   

@Bigun

Damn, you Earl!   Now I'm getting pissed.

Here's a guy saying you're an idiot, and all we get is crickets.

I called you a senile old bastard and you went and put me on 'Ignore'.

 888high58888
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2019, 06:46:56 pm
I didn’t like the way they went after Moore in their standard, coordinated, media smear campaign, right out of the democrats’ playbook, and I defended him then.

Unfortunately, Roy Moore is no Donald Trump and didn’t have Trump’s pugnacious abilities to fend off his opponents attacks and Moore lost. His reputation and the perception that he can win was severely damaged. A damaged candidate is not a good bet on which to risk the farm.

So for the good of the senate republican majority he should not seek the nomination.

Beautifully stated.

Like I said.   Human Frag Grenade.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2019, 06:48:21 pm
Can someone please explain how nominating a candidate, who is likely the ONLY Republican candidate who is certain to LOSE this critically important Alabama Senate seat, advances conservatism?

The truth is, losing advances nothing AND Roy Moore is...again...far from the only solid Conservative in Alabama who can fill this seat. The proviso of the great Buckley is to choose the most conservative candidate who can win, not the most conservative candidate who will lose...his assertion is a great expression of common sense. Those supporting Moore, have sadly left common sense in the mud...they seem quite content to lose a key Senate seat so they can proclaim their conservative purity to the world.

Dumb. Just plain dumb.

Naw....it must be something in that Big Sky Montana air.

Sleeping too close to the barn animals or the like.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: berdie on May 30, 2019, 09:19:50 pm
The bottom line here, to me, is if the people of Alabama want to vote for Moore. It is their prerogative.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: EdJames on May 30, 2019, 09:22:32 pm
The bottom line here, to me, is if the people of Alabama want to vote for Moore. It is their prerogative.

Exactly, and prior to that, it will be solely up to the Republican primary voters in Alabama to choose the nominee.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 30, 2019, 09:41:20 pm
The bottom line here, to me, is if the people of Alabama want to vote for Moore. It is their prerogative.
Have we not established that they don't?

If the Republican Party insists on putting forth the same candidate that just got rejected, does that not hurt the conservative cause?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: berdie on May 30, 2019, 10:00:58 pm
The conservative cause?

Well, help me out here about what the Pubs back @jmyrlefuller .  Collins, Murkouski, Romney? And in the past..McCain and others.

To me the bottom line is as I said...whoever the people in Alabama want. I wouldn't like Trump coming out and d*amning a senatorial candidate running in Texas.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2019, 10:07:08 pm
   That's why Cruz kissed his azz on that last budget vote (his first) and he almost lost to Beto.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2019, 10:15:21 pm
The conservative cause?

Well, help me out here about what the Pubs back @jmyrlefuller .  Collins, Murkouski, Romney? And in the past..McCain and others.

To me the bottom line is as I said...whoever the people in Alabama want. I wouldn't like Trump coming out and d*amning a senatorial candidate running in Texas.

...unless, that is, said candidate had his ass handed to him once already.   Because of self-inflicted wounds.

Come on, man.

As Rush says, we're in for the fight of our lives, our way of life.  Stop f**king around.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: berdie on May 30, 2019, 10:27:57 pm
Dang, @DCPatriot . Rush said f**king around? Who knew? I don't listen to his show, but that sounds more like Howard Stern, who I don't listen to either.

Lots of people have had their posteriors handed to them when running for office...multiple times. I can think of a few and I'm sure you can.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on May 30, 2019, 10:37:06 pm
It has national ramifications, so, yes, by all means, vote your conscience, history also shows Moore has lost 3 statewide races.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2019, 10:45:20 pm
Dang, @DCPatriot . Rush said f**king around? Who knew? I don't listen to his show, but that sounds more like Howard Stern, who I don't listen to either.

Lots of people have had their posteriors handed to them when running for office...multiple times. I can think of a few and I'm sure you can.

LOL!   No, Rush didn't say that, I did.

And this isn't the House.  It's the Senate.

As Lyndon Johnson said about the two, "...difference between chicken sh*t and chicken salad"   :laugh:


Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Fishrrman on May 31, 2019, 01:44:22 am
If the Republican voters of Alabama choose Mr. Moore to be their candidate again, for better or worse, the national party had better offer some help this time.

But I'm not expecting that.

I sense that this time, enough Alabama voters who may have been ticked off by "last time" come out and make the difference.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 04:19:11 am
Exactly, and prior to that, it will be solely up to the Republican primary voters in Alabama to choose the nominee.

I'm not going to patronize Alabama Republicans by stating the obvious,  but Alabama Republicans do have the choice whether to act selfishly.   Seeking vindication for the Dems' hardball tactics Is a selfish motivation, and so is wanting to stick it in the eye of mainstream Republicans who view Moore as a caricature, or who recognize full well that Moore provides Jones with his weakest opponent at a time when the NATION needs the Senate to stay GOP.   

There's a thin line that separates rebelliousness  and self-martyrdom.    I think Alabama Republicans are smart enough to recognize that Moore is on the wrong side of that line. 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 31, 2019, 08:24:23 am
I'm not going to patronize Alabama Republicans by stating the obvious,  but Alabama Republicans do have the choice whether to act selfishly.   Seeking vindication for the Dems' hardball tactics Is a selfish motivation, and so is wanting to stick it in the eye of mainstream Republicans who view Moore as a caricature, or who recognize full well that Moore provides Jones with his weakest opponent at a time when the NATION needs the Senate to stay GOP.   

There's a thin line that separates rebelliousness  and self-martyrdom.    I think Alabama Republicans are smart enough to recognize that Moore is on the wrong side of that line.
If Alabama Republicans do not serve the interests of Alabama Republicans, it is patently obvious that NO ONE ELSE WILL.

The Democrats won't.
The national GOP has failed to do so.

They are all off serving their own 'selfish' self-interests.

If Alabamans want a voice, it is up to Alabamans.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 12:00:02 pm
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If Alabamans want a voice, it is up to Alabamans.
Of course.   But that doesn't mean they have to make the same mistake twice.   Just how does Doug Jones provide a voice for Alabama Republicans or conservatives?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 31, 2019, 12:52:28 pm
Of course.   But that doesn't mean they have to make the same mistake twice.   Just how does Doug Jones provide a voice for Alabama Republicans or conservatives?

The ONLY mistake they made previously was in allowing the GOPe hucksters and their media accomplices to railroad them into abandoning a fine man at the 11th hour.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: txradioguy on May 31, 2019, 12:59:01 pm
The ONLY mistake they made previously was in allowing the GOPe hucksters and their media accomplices to railroad them into abandoning a fine man at the 11th hour.

Exactly!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: txradioguy on May 31, 2019, 01:03:22 pm
That's a false choice,  notwithstanding your slander of the Senate majority leader,  who is doing more to advance conservative principles than anyone else in Washington, including the President.    You are suggesting there are no good conservatives in Alabama other than proven loser and accused bigot and pedophile Moore.    That's a sad reflection on the state of Alabama.   

Mitch McConnell is only “conservative” in an election year. Same way McCain used to pretend to be a “Conservative” every six years in Arizona.

He did more to advance Obama’s policies than any Democrat. Not to mention his lies about Obamacare.

He’s no more Conservative or interested in Conservative principals than you are.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 01:26:19 pm
He’s no more Conservative or interested in Conservative principals than you are.

What I'm interested in is conservative policies, and conservative judges.   This bullshit about "conservative principals" and six bits will get you a cup of coffee.   Go on and nominate Roy Moore and see him get trounced in one of the most conservative states in the nation.   Sure, you've stuck to your "principles".   But you get Doug Jones as Senator,  and how does that advance the cause of conservatism?

I'll say the same thing to you as I did to Bigun - don't be an idiot.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 01:35:12 pm
I said it back when, and wayyy up this thread:  It's up to Alabamans.

It's the height of arrogance to assume I, as a Desert Southwesterner, or a Northeasterner like @Jazzhead can pick their candidates for them.  Contrary to posts I've read, a Senator is one of two Senators of his/her State, not a Senator of the Nation.

It's up to the GOP of Alabama.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 31, 2019, 01:39:37 pm
I said it back when, and wayyy up this thread:  It's up to Alabamans.

It's the height of arrogance to assume I, as a Desert Southwesterner, or a Northeasterner like @Jazzhead can pick their candidates for them.  Contrary to posts I've read, a Senator is one of two Senators of his/her State, not a Senator of the Nation.

It's up to the GOP of Alabama.




So when the people of Kentucky nominates Mitch are you going to respect their decision as well?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 01:43:36 pm
I said it back when, and wayyy up this thread:  It's up to Alabamans.

It's the height of arrogance to assume I, as a Desert Southwesterner, or a Northeasterner like @Jazzhead can pick their candidates for them.  Contrary to posts I've read, a Senator is one of two Senators of his/her State, not a Senator of the Nation.

It's up to the GOP of Alabama.

Of course.   But the GOP of Alabama nominated a loser last time around, and its mistake had consequences for conservatives nationwide.    I see no reason why I shouldn't point out that it would be foolish to repeat that mistake.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 01:44:10 pm



So when the people of Kentucky nominates Mitch are you going to respect their decision as well?

Ayup.  I'm not particularly happy about it, but I respect the choice made by voters of Kentucky, as I do the voters in other states who elect Republicans.  Dittos for that idjit in Utah.  It's not my place to impose my will on them. 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 01:47:28 pm
Of course.   But the GOP of Alabama nominated a loser last time around, and its mistake had consequences for conservatives nationwide.    I see no reason why I shouldn't point out that it would be foolish to repeat that mistake.

Moore would have won that seat but for Rat dirty tricks timed right after the ballots were printed.  Would he win now?  I don't know.  I do know I don't like it when Rat dirty tricks succeed, but it doesn't follow I want Alabamans to prove the trick fails in the long run.  I really don't care who they nominate.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 01:49:47 pm
Of course.   But the GOP of Alabama nominated a loser last time around, and its mistake had consequences for conservatives nationwide.    I see no reason why I shouldn't point out that it would be foolish to repeat that mistake.

Did they?  Really?   Or.... did the leftist Christian-hating media and accusers create that loser scenario.... because they have a huge bullseye target painted on any and every strong, Christian candidate.   Just like they attempted to do with Kavanaugh.   Just like they succeeded in doing with Herman Cain.  It's a pattern.  And idiots keep falling for it.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 01:53:51 pm
What I'm interested in is conservative policies, and conservative judges.   This bullshit about "conservative principals" and six bits will get you a cup of coffee.

Spoken as a non-conservative. What under-girds your so-called 'conservative policies, and conservative judges' is necessarily Conservative principle, else they are not conservative. Conservatism IS adherence to Conservative principles. That is what it is. So your statement is contradictory.

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Go on and nominate Roy Moore and see him get trounced in one of the most conservative states in the nation.   Sure, you've stuck to your "principles".   But you get Doug Jones as Senator,  and how does that advance the cause of conservatism?

What's the difference? Tell me what makes the Republicans any better than the democrats? Not a damn thing. There are Conservatives, and then there are everybody else. The only bet in town is for Conservatism, if you want anything to change... So vote for the Conservative and let the chips fall where they may... If the Conservative loses, it is always worth the bet - as what we wind up with otherwise is one of McConnell's butt-monkeys or Pelosi's butt-monkeys... Which doesn't make one damn bit of difference.

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I'll say the same thing to you as I did to Bigun - don't be an idiot.

Idiocy is voting the same way for the same damn thing, expecting different results. Idiocy pulls the lever for the 'Big Rhinestone R'
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 01:59:19 pm
Did they?  Really?   Or.... did the leftist Christian-hating media and accusers create that loser scenario.... because they have a huge bullseye target painted on any and every strong, Christian candidate.   Just like they attempted to do with Kavanaugh.   Just like they succeeded in doing with Herman Cain.  It's a pattern.  And idiots keep falling for it.

Jones was the result of Rat dirty tricks.

I try to pick my battles in wars I have some control over.  It's not up to me who the Alabama GOP chooses to run for Senate. 

I have a battle right here in AZ to keep a seat in Republican hands.  2020 has a Special Election for McStain's old seat, and the current occupant has shown much difficulty winning state-wide elections.  Flake the Fake ensured his old seat went to the Rats and I don't want AZ to be represented in the Senate by two communists.

IOW...I have trouble enough without sticking my nose in Alabamans' business.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 31, 2019, 02:02:31 pm
Ayup.  I'm not particularly happy about it, but I respect the choice made by voters of Kentucky, as I do the voters in other states who elect Republicans.  Dittos for that idjit in Utah.  It's not my place to impose my will on them.
The choice of Roy Moore as the Republican nominee led directly to the election of a DEMOCRAT. I hate partisan politics, but it's an unfortunate reality that the actions of people in states other than our own have an impact on our own lives.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 02:04:39 pm
The choice of Roy Moore as the Republican nominee led directly to the election of a DEMOCRAT. I hate partisan politics, but it's an unfortunate reality that the actions of people in states other than our own have an impact on our own lives.

It does not follow I should have a voice in who other states choose to send to the Senate.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 02:10:15 pm
The choice of Roy Moore as the Republican nominee led directly to the election of a DEMOCRAT.

Then we must endeavor to only nominate pussified milquetoast quasi-liberal republicans, because every hard-core Conservative is given the same treatment as Moore. Then we'll win  *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 02:13:12 pm
Jones was the result of Rat dirty tricks.

I try to pick my battles in wars I have some control over.  It's not up to me who the Alabama GOP chooses to run for Senate. 

I have a battle right here in AZ to keep a seat in Republican hands.  2020 has a Special Election for McStain's old seat, and the current occupant has shown much difficulty winning state-wide elections.  Flake the Fake ensured his old seat went to the Rats and I don't want AZ to be represented in the Senate by two communists.

IOW...I have trouble enough without sticking my nose in Alabamans' business.

Jones?  Who dat?

I hate to break it to ya, but we stick our collective noses in everyone's business right here....

on a daily basis.  It's how we roll.    :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 02:15:06 pm
Then we must endeavor to only nominate pussified milquetoast quasi-liberal republicans, because every hard-core Conservative is given the same treatment as Moore. Then we'll win  *****rollingeyes*****

Right.  We must nominate RINOs every single time.  Since... it has worked so well in the past.  (ditto on rollingeyes)
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: txradioguy on May 31, 2019, 02:17:53 pm
What I'm interested in is conservative policies, and conservative judges.   This bullshit about "conservative principals" and six bits will get you a cup of coffee.   Go on and nominate Roy Moore and see him get trounced in one of the most conservative states in the nation.   Sure, you've stuck to your "principles".   But you get Doug Jones as Senator,  and how does that advance the cause of conservatism?

I'll say the same thing to you as I did to Bigun - don't be an idiot.

An idiot...is someone who is pro open borders...pro abortion...anti 2nd Amendment anti Christian and supports the agenda of the gay mafia while claiming to want Conservative Judges and claims to believe in Conservative “principals”.

I’m definitely not  an idiot because I will never be a Liberal like you.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: edpc on May 31, 2019, 02:36:31 pm
There’s always a knee-jerk response, after an unexpected result, that chicanery must have been the reason for it. More was not popular with establishment types. It was the same, with Trump, in the election one year before. Nevertheless, the voters came out in a 2-1 margin for Trump, because they understood the danger of a Clinton presidency. 

The special election brought unprecedented nationwide coverage. It’s not like the average voter was not aware of the importance of the seat held. Still, they stayed home. Moore didn’t lose, due to cheating. He lost, because he was a uninspiring candidate. Trump would not even cross the line into the state. He campaigned in Pensacola, at the last minute. Now, he has urged Alabama voters to select someone else. Has the president become establishment or is Moore just a bad choice?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 02:59:48 pm
There’s always a knee-jerk response, after an unexpected result, that chicanery must have been the reason for it. More was not popular with establishment types. It was the same, with Trump, in the election one year before. Nevertheless, the voters came out in a 2-1 margin for Trump, because they understood the danger of a Clinton presidency. 

Exactly.   And that was made crystal clear even right here on TBR.

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The special election brought unprecedented nationwide coverage. It’s not like the average voter was not aware of the importance of the seat held. Still, they stayed home. Moore didn’t lose, due to cheating. He lost, because he was a uninspiring candidate. Trump would not even cross the line into the state. He campaigned in Pensacola, at the last minute. Now, he has urged Alabama voters to select someone else. Has the president become establishment or is Moore just a bad choice?

I think he lost mostly because he was successfully Herman Cained (slimed) by the leftists.  And for the life of me, I can't understand how anyone, even GOP establishment types, could applaud that ssdd BS .... since it results in the leftists winning and the GOP losing.


Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 03:27:02 pm
Spoken as a non-conservative. What under-girds your so-called 'conservative policies, and conservative judges' is necessarily Conservative principle, else they are not conservative. Conservatism IS adherence to Conservative principles. That is what it is. So your statement is contradictory.

I subscribe to the Buckley rule, as @Mesaclone mentioned.   I'll vote for the most conservative who can win.  And that's not the lawless Roy Moore, who may be only an accused pedophile but is a proven loser.         

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What's the difference? Tell me what makes the Republicans any better than the democrats? Not a damn thing. R'

I don't drink your Kool-Aid, sir.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 03:29:20 pm
The choice of Roy Moore as the Republican nominee led directly to the election of a DEMOCRAT. I hate partisan politics, but it's an unfortunate reality that the actions of people in states other than our own have an impact on our own lives.

Bingo!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 03:35:45 pm
Jones?  Who dat?

I hate to break it to ya, but we stick our collective noses in everyone's business right here....

on a daily basis. It's how we roll.    :laugh:

 :laugh: :beer:

(I got a fresh keg of Shock Top in yesterday, to be tapped later.)
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: edpc on May 31, 2019, 04:01:23 pm
I think he lost mostly because he was successfully Herman Cained (slimed) by the leftists.  And for the life of me, I can't understand how anyone, even GOP establishment types, could applaud that ssdd BS .... since it results in the leftists winning and the GOP losing.


OK - back to my question. Does that now mean Trump is among the establishment types, since he’s kneecapping Moore, ahead of the primary?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 31, 2019, 04:14:47 pm
Nah. He was ahead by 40 points before the smear campaign began. He was literally walking away with it.

When the slime started falling though, he didn't do much to counter it and it eventually got him.

I'm not sure though the Left can use that tactic this time around. Their accusers have been discredited, and I think this time most people would be like 'Geez, not this sh** again!'
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 04:19:59 pm

OK - back to my question. Does that now mean Trump is among the establishment types, since he’s kneecapping Moore, ahead of the primary?

Trump is one of those "establishment" types who wants the Senate to continue confirming conservative judges.    Taking back the Alabama seat is crucial to that goal.   Moore's lost to Jones before, and he will lose again.  Surely there are other acceptable conservatives in Alabama who don't come festooned with Moore's lawlessness and other baggage.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 04:22:17 pm

OK - back to my question. Does that now mean Trump is among the establishment types, since he’s kneecapping Moore, ahead of the primary?

Lol!  Touché.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 04:29:08 pm
:laugh: :beer:

(I got a fresh keg of Shock Top in yesterday, to be tapped later.)

Good for you.  I could use a beer or two right about now.  It's raining outside (so no gardening)....I am therefore forced to do house cleaning (yuck).... and it always puts me in a wacky mood whenever I am forced to do something I loathe...lolol.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 04:40:43 pm
Good for you.  I could use a beer or two right about now.  It's raining outside (so no gardening)....I am therefore forced to do house cleaning (yuck).... and it always puts me in a wacky mood whenever I am forced to do something I loathe...lolol.

I need to get into it a bit earlier than expected.  My Phoenix friend is bringing us a new kitteh today.  Oh well...ten was never enough anyway. 

 ***evilkitty
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: edpc on May 31, 2019, 04:51:01 pm
Lol!  Touché.   :laugh:


Well, honestly, it was a serious question, not a ‘gotcha.’ Whatever you think of the tactics against Moore, or their origins, his response to it was exceptionally poor. In the case of Trump, I think his motivations are geared more towards the optics. If he is on the short end of the situation, it is always someone else’s fault, like the ‘rigged system’ or ‘enemy of the people’ media types. Moore, on the other hand, is a loser, in his view. Also, I believe Trump holds people like Moore in contempt. The whole horse riding, hat wearing, pistol waving image makes him an ass-backwards yokel. His overall view of southerners should have been apparent, in this year’s CPAC speech.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 04:53:17 pm
I need to get into it a bit earlier than expected.  My Phoenix friend is bringing us a new kitteh today.  Oh well...ten was never enough anyway. 

 ***evilkitty

Oh wow.  I have two and that's one too many... especially since one's a male and a major PITA.  A lovable PITA, that is. 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 05:01:06 pm

Well, honestly, it was a serious question, not a ‘gotcha.’ Whatever you think of the tactics against Moore, or their origins, his response to it was exceptionally poor. In the case of Trump, I think his motivations are geared more towards the optics. If he is on the short end of the situation, it is always someone else’s fault, like the ‘rigged system’ or ‘enemy of the people’ media types. Moore, on the other hand, is a loser, in his view. Also, I believe Trump holds people like Moore in contempt. The whole horse riding, hat wearing, pistol waving image makes him an ass-backwards yokel. His overall view of southerners should have been apparent, in this year’s CPAC speech.

Trump is a populist, so yeah... he will sway with the perceived (his perception) will of most of his base.  But again, that goes right back to the rampant success that the leftist media had re: turning potential supporters and voters against Moore.  The media campaign worked... only too well.

As for Trump holding Moore in contempt, I find it ironic that he apparently doesn't 'relate' to Moore's being demonized and attacked by the left.  Odd that he doesn't feel he has that in common with Moore... but then, Trump's ego would, I suppose, prevent him from sympathizing with someone 'else' getting the treatment.   As for Trump having a dim view of Southerners ... most of his base happens to be in the South.  As a New Yawker, he should be more considerate and aware of that fact.  Oh well...

Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 05:18:00 pm
When the slime started falling though, he didn't do much to counter it and it eventually got him.

I'm not sure though the Left can use that tactic this time around. Their accusers have been discredited, and I think this time most people would be like 'Geez, not this sh** again!'

I don't think that's true - I think they took all the air out of him - He got *NO* airtime to retaliate. He was effectively stifled, unless you actually were paying attention and trying to hear his side of things by seeking it out... Even the GOP and talking heads were against him... He goes onto Hannity for an obvious 'Hannitizing'... a nice softball interview to give him a chance to say his piece... But that ain't what happened - I do not think he was ready to get roasted by Hannity, and I do not think he would have gone on if he'd have seen that coming.

And it doesn't matter about the left (you really have to get over the whole left/right thing - Other than Conservatives, it is a monolithic same-damn-thing)... Sure the left will go after him - But his enemy is the so-called 'right', like Tumpy Jr in this OP. His own party will try to cut his throat, which is exactly the thing that wrecked him last time, not the overtures of the Left.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 05:28:11 pm
I don't think that's true - I think they took all the air out of him - He got *NO* airtime to retaliate. He was effectively stifled, unless you actually were paying attention and trying to hear his side of things by seeking it out... Even the GOP and talking heads were against him... He goes onto Hannity for an obvious 'Hannitizing'... a nice softball interview to give him a chance to say his piece... But that ain't what happened - I do not think he was ready to get roasted by Hannity, and I do not think he would have gone on if he'd have seen that coming.

And it doesn't matter about the left (you really have to get over the whole left/right thing - Other than Conservatives, it is a monolithic same-damn-thing)... Sure the left will go after him - But his enemy is the so-called 'right', like Tumpy Jr in this OP. His own party will try to cut his throat, which is exactly the thing that wrecked him last time, not the overtures of the Left.

Which is one reason why the GOP is called the stupid party.   They eat their own, while the rats march in lock-step every time.  Unity is key (united we stand, divided we fall).  And the GOP ain't got it.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 05:45:01 pm
Which is one reason why the GOP is called the stupid party.   They eat their own, while the rats march in lock-step every time. Unity is key (united we stand, divided we fall).  And the GOP ain't got it.

And likewise many of the the inhabitants of this thread.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 05:47:59 pm
And likewise many of the the inhabitants of this thread.

Pick a Moore thread...any Moore thread. rrthree
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 05:48:54 pm
Pick a Moore thread...any Moore thread. rrthree

Yep
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 05:49:58 pm
And likewise many of the the inhabitants of this thread.

True dat.  Inhabitants that would rather see a damned DemocRat in that Senate seat than Moore.  Which I really don't get.... or agree with.

Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 05:53:29 pm
True dat.  Inhabitants that would rather see a damned DemocRat in that Senate seat than Moore.  Which I really don't get.... or agree with.

That's right. Their abhorrence of us yokels is noted.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 06:02:43 pm
That's right. Their abhorrence of us yokels is noted.

Lol.  Yokels that have more common sense (enough to value unity) and more loyalty than the pretenders do.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: edpc on May 31, 2019, 06:05:02 pm
Which is one reason why the GOP is called the stupid party.   They eat their own, while the rats march in lock-step every time.  Unity is key (united we stand, divided we fall).  And the GOP ain't got it.


I could swear I’ve seen a few threads, discussing their disarray and splintering over impeachment.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 06:09:54 pm

I could swear I’ve seen a few threads, discussing their disarray and splintering over impeachment.   :shrug:

Maybe ....a few.   :whistle:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 31, 2019, 06:25:14 pm
I don't think that's true - I think they took all the air out of him - He got *NO* airtime to retaliate. He was effectively stifled, unless you actually were paying attention and trying to hear his side of things by seeking it out... Even the GOP and talking heads were against him... He goes onto Hannity for an obvious 'Hannitizing'... a nice softball interview to give him a chance to say his piece... But that ain't what happened - I do not think he was ready to get roasted by Hannity, and I do not think he would have gone on if he'd have seen that coming.

And it doesn't matter about the left (you really have to get over the whole left/right thing - Other than Conservatives, it is a monolithic same-damn-thing)... Sure the left will go after him - But his enemy is the so-called 'right', like Tumpy Jr in this OP. His own party will try to cut his throat, which is exactly the thing that wrecked him last time, not the overtures of the Left.

I'm thinking more within the local news apparatus. I just didn't see any real organization or aggressivness trying to counter in the local media markets.

I will grant he was severely hobbled by Cocaine Mitch withdrawing funds, so maybe he was truly hamstrung.

Let's hope if he runs again he anticipates this and is prepared for it.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 06:32:22 pm

I could swear I’ve seen a few threads, discussing their disarray and splintering over impeachment.   :shrug:

I don't think they're splintered over Impeachment, but over whether they want to say they want it.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on May 31, 2019, 06:41:53 pm
Yes, the National GOP should support him as the State GOP did, then, if he fails, they can talk. I'd say this is also with the assumption that these shadier accusations are false.  I assume they are false.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 06:51:10 pm
True dat.  Inhabitants that would rather see a damned DemocRat in that Senate seat than Moore.  Which I really don't get.... or agree with.

That's not the choice.   If the Alabama GOP nominates Moore, then Doug Jones likely retains his seat.   The way to avoid that result is to tell Moore that it's time to saddle up his palomino and ride off.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 06:54:33 pm
That's right. Their abhorrence of us yokels is noted.

Your virtue-signaling is boring.     
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 31, 2019, 06:57:16 pm
Your virtue-signaling is boring.   

Not half as much as you BS!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sanguine on May 31, 2019, 07:04:36 pm
Your virtue-signaling is boring.   

You misunderstand, @Jazzhead.  Virtue signaling is done by people who lack virtue in order to make them appear to have virtue. 

@roamer_1 does not fall into that category.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 31, 2019, 07:08:09 pm
You misunderstand, @Jazzhead.  Virtue signaling is done by people who lack virtue in order to make them appear to have virtue. 

@roamer_1 does not fall into that category.

Thank you!  @roamer_1 has never engaged in virtue signaling in his life. Unlike many others here.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 31, 2019, 07:30:13 pm
Did they?  Really?   Or.... did the leftist Christian-hating media and accusers create that loser scenario.... because they have a huge bullseye target painted on any and every strong, Christian candidate.   Just like they attempted to do with Kavanaugh.   Just like they succeeded in doing with Herman Cain.  It's a pattern.  And idiots keep falling for it.
It goes back past Clarence Thomas, actually. Same gambit, only the Media are even less fair (Dem biased) than they were then.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on May 31, 2019, 07:32:16 pm
It goes back past Clarence Thomas, actually. Same gambit, only the Media are even less fair (Dem biased) than they were then.

Exactly right and it's never going to stop for so long as it works for them.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 07:32:48 pm
You misunderstand, @Jazzhead.  Virtue signaling is done by people who lack virtue in order to make them appear to have virtue. 

@roamer_1 does not fall into that category.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 07:33:38 pm
It goes back past Clarence Thomas, actually. Same gambit, only the Media are even less fair (Dem biased) than they were then.

Spot on.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 07:34:45 pm
Your virtue-signaling is boring.   

Look who's talking.  *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 31, 2019, 07:45:13 pm
The choice of Roy Moore as the Republican nominee led directly to the election of a DEMOCRAT. I hate partisan politics, but it's an unfortunate reality that the actions of people in states other than our own have an impact on our own lives.
The choice of Moore only meant that the Country Club and the Liberals joined hands to keep someone out who just might give 'em all Hell. If you're a fan of the shenanigans the GOP Congress has pulled in the first two years of the Trump Presidency, mainly refusing to pass the legislation needed for him to implement policy (until they lost the House and had a real excuse), then keep hitting the same button.
If you really want to drain the swamp, you need people who don't mind telling where the mud is.

As for it being unfortunate that people in other states influence our politics, whichever state we're in, well, yes, it is.

From faux social media campaigns to well funded astroturf organizations that spring up like mushrooms and are toxic to local policy, it is a real blight on the electoral process.

Considering that is EXACTLY the sort of crap that kept Moore out last time, along with the concerted efforts of the homomedia who hated him since he upheld the Alabama Constitution on the issue of same sex 'marriage', I'd think any Conservative would be happy to see him get another shot at office, especially since the air has been cleared.

YMMV.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 31, 2019, 07:51:56 pm
Which is one reason why the GOP is called the stupid party.   They eat their own, while the rats march in lock-step every time.  Unity is key (united we stand, divided we fall).  And the GOP ain't got it.
Ironic, ain't it? Since Lincoln himself talked about "a house divided..."
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 31, 2019, 08:37:37 pm
True dat.  Inhabitants that would rather see a damned DemocRat in that Senate seat than Moore.  Which I really don't get.... or agree with.
A vote for Moore is a vote for a Democrat.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 31, 2019, 08:38:21 pm
Which is one reason why the GOP is called the stupid party.   They eat their own, while the rats march in lock-step every time.  Unity is key (united we stand, divided we fall).  And the GOP ain't got it.
Give us a candidate we can unite behind, then we will unite. Moore has already proven he's not it.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 08:42:02 pm
You misunderstand, @Jazzhead.  Virtue signaling is done by people who lack virtue in order to make them appear to have virtue. 

@roamer_1 does not fall into that category.

@roamer_1 is constantly citing his sacred "principals" as he lives atop his mountain,  proclaiming his virtue over us lowly pragmatists who dare to want to do such things as win elections and solve real problems.   I'm sick of his shit.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 31, 2019, 08:54:49 pm
@roamer_1 is constantly citing his sacred "principals" as he lives atop his mountain,  proclaiming his virtue over us lowly pragmatists who dare to want to do such things as win elections and solve real problems.   I'm sick of his shit.

Sad comment, really.

Apparently, winning elections is just not enough. You have to win them with the right people. Otherwise, we wouldn't have the mess we have.

If those who throw principles to the wind for the sake of "winning" would stand their ground, on principle,maybe this country wouldn't be such a mess.

As for fecal material, you do pretty well at splattering it around, yourself.

(why does liberal poo smell worse?)
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 31, 2019, 09:00:56 pm
@roamer_1 is constantly citing his sacred "principals" as he lives atop his mountain,  proclaiming his virtue over us lowly pragmatists who dare to want to do such things as win elections and solve real problems.   I'm sick of his shit.

So that means you've finally given up on John Kasich?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 09:24:55 pm
So that means you've finally given up on John Kasich?

As a matter of fact, yes. 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 09:26:13 pm
If those who throw principles to the wind for the sake of "winning" would stand their ground, on principle,maybe this country wouldn't be such a mess.


False choice.   What is your objection to the Buckley principle?   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 09:46:17 pm
Your virtue-signaling is boring.   

Typical liberal bullcrap, @Jazzhead . A knee-jerk slander to use against anyone who has the fortitude to believe in anything... I take it as a compliment from the likes of such folks.

Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 09:50:28 pm
Thanks to all y'all for your defense in my absence.
I consider myself to be in the best of company!

@Bigun
@Sanguine
@XenaLee
@Cyber Liberty

 :beer: :patriot: :seeya:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 09:57:52 pm
@roamer_1 is constantly citing his sacred "principals" as he lives atop his mountain,  proclaiming his virtue over us lowly pragmatists who dare to want to do such things as win elections and solve real problems.   I'm sick of his shit.

It's quite the other way around as far as 'looking down one's nose' is concerned, @Jazzhead .

I am sure I have agreed with you a time or two, but so very seldom that I doubt I could recall it. Still, I would not accuse you of 'virtue signaling' - I take it you mean what you say, no matter how ludicrous I might find your position to be.

Besides, us dumb hicks who live on mountains ain't got the mental fortitude for verbal machinations. Generally, we just say what we mean.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 10:04:32 pm
False choice.   What is your objection to the Buckley principle?

It has left us without enough Conservatives to matter... But a handful. And a very long way from '80 and '94.

The false choice is pragmatism. To the point that there is not a single principle of Conservatism to be found, truly defended by Republicans. And certainly so among pragmatists.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 31, 2019, 10:06:03 pm
False choice.   What is your objection to the Buckley principle?
Voting for the lesser evil just gets you to the greater evil by a more circuitous route.

It's like saying just a little poo in the punchbowl won't affect the flavor that much.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 10:06:53 pm
Sad comment, really.
[...]

If those who throw principles to the wind for the sake of "winning" would stand their ground, on principle,maybe this country wouldn't be such a mess.


Ain't that the fact of it.

Nice to see you Smoke. Hope it's all good for you...

 :beer:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 31, 2019, 10:08:52 pm
Ain't that the fact of it.

Nice to see you Smoke. Hope it's all good for you...

 :beer:
Thanks!  :seeya:

Working down in NV, on an exploration well. Life is good.  :beer:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 10:09:09 pm
 goopo
The choice of Moore only meant that the Country Club and the Liberals joined hands to keep someone out who just might give 'em all Hell. If you're a fan of the shenanigans the GOP Congress has pulled in the first two years of the Trump Presidency, mainly refusing to pass the legislation needed for him to implement policy (until they lost the House and had a real excuse), then keep hitting the same button.
If you really want to drain the swamp, you need people who don't mind telling where the mud is.

As for it being unfortunate that people in other states influence our politics, whichever state we're in, well, yes, it is.

From faux social media campaigns to well funded astroturf organizations that spring up like mushrooms and are toxic to local policy, it is a real blight on the electoral process.

Considering that is EXACTLY the sort of crap that kept Moore out last time, along with the concerted efforts of the homomedia who hated him since he upheld the Alabama Constitution on the issue of same sex 'marriage', I'd think any Conservative would be happy to see him get another shot at office, especially since the air has been cleared.

YMMV.

 goopo

 :thumbsup:

 :patriot:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 10:10:34 pm
Thanks to all y'all for your defense in my absence.
I consider myself to be in the best of company!

@Bigun
@Sanguine
@XenaLee
@Cyber Liberty

 :beer: :patriot: :seeya:

 888high58888
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 10:32:25 pm
Thanks!  :seeya:

Working down in NV, on an exploration well. Life is good.  :beer:

Ugh! That's gotta be hotter than a popcorn fart, and twice as dusty! Hope you've got air conditioning or a nice swimmin hole.

Though maybe not as bad for a feller used to NoDak summers...

As for me, I'll stay up here in the pines and the birches where the shade works.
 :beer:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 10:50:07 pm
Ugh! That's gotta be hotter than a popcorn fart, and twice as dusty! Hope you've got air conditioning or a nice swimmin hole.

Though maybe not as bad for a feller used to NoDak summers...

As for me, I'll stay up here in the pines and the birches where the shade works.
 :beer:

You want hot? 100 here today.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 11:03:11 pm
You want hot? 100 here today.

We're around 75 today, and the house is wide open, with the smell of lilacs wafting through... Blowing all the heat from the stove right out the window.

(I have chili, brownies, and chocolate pudding all going right now in anticipation of Shabbat.)
 :beer:

June and July will be 80's with cool nights between 40 and 50
Hopefully, we won't see 90's till August, and won't see 100's at all.

Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sanguine on May 31, 2019, 11:19:53 pm
We're around 75 today, and the house is wide open, with the smell of lilacs wafting through... Blowing all the heat from the stove right out the window.

(I have chili, brownies, and chocolate pudding all going right now in anticipation of Shabbat.)
 :beer:

June and July will be 80's with cool nights between 40 and 50
Hopefully, we won't see 90's till August, and won't see 100's at all.

@roamer_1 is chili, brownies, and chocolate pudding typical Sabbath food? 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: txradioguy on May 31, 2019, 11:24:08 pm
Your virtue-signaling is boring.   

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/010/692/19789999.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 11:31:04 pm
@roamer_1 is chili, brownies, and chocolate pudding typical Sabbath food?

LOL!

@Sanguine

Well, the pudding is because I found out my milk has almost turned, and I have to use it up... BTW, make it with cream skimmed off of raw milk and you will never go back...

But yeah - Sabbath is a celebration. I try not to cook after friday sundown, so I go at it early on friday afternoon and make what I need for Shabbat.

So egg/bacon**/cheese salad on sourdough for breakfast, a nice beef salsa thing on a pretzel roll for lunch, and chili or chili mac for tonight and saturday night... Plenty of fruit (to include my first watermelon for the year), and of course, the brownies in a salted caramel sauce...

I wish I had an avacado for under the egg salad, but I'll make due without.  :shrug:

** Fakin bacon (turkey), of course, before the legalists opine
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 11:34:45 pm
@roamer_1  I think avocados are illegal now.  MSNBC told me so.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 31, 2019, 11:35:32 pm
Ugh! That's gotta be hotter than a popcorn fart, and twice as dusty! Hope you've got air conditioning or a nice swimmin hole.

Though maybe not as bad for a feller used to NoDak summers...

As for me, I'll stay up here in the pines and the birches where the shade works.
 :beer:
Had rain every day (snow, even!) and night time temps in the 30s. Feels a lot like home, only wetter (some desert, huh? :shrug:)
It's the second time I have worked in a desert area in the last year and been rained on for better'n a week. Maybe I should go on the road to drought areas and charge to hang out.....
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 11:37:24 pm
@roamer_1  I think avocados are illegal now.  MSNBC told me so.

WAT?

I have no idea what you're sayin.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 11:41:42 pm
Had rain every day (snow, even!) and night time temps in the 30s. Feels a lot like home, only wetter (some desert, huh? :shrug:)
It's the second time I have worked in a desert area in the last year and been rained on for better'n a week. Maybe I should go on the road to drought areas and charge to hang out.....

That's the Good Lord lookin out for a poor northern boy (Ha! see what I did there  :silly:)

 :beer:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 11:49:54 pm
WAT?

I have no idea what you're sayin.  :shrug:

Because Trump.  Mexico I think.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 31, 2019, 11:51:29 pm
That's the Good Lord lookin out for a poor northern boy (Ha! see what I did there  :silly:)

 :beer:
  :nono: Slander me, sir, if you must, but recall I was born and raised South of the Mason-Dixon Line!
 :silly:
(The next conflict won't be between North and South).  :beer:

And Yep, He's definitely looking out for me!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 11:52:41 pm
Because Trump.  Mexico I think.

Ah, I see where you're going...  :beer:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 11:55:49 pm
  :nono: Slander me, sir, if you must, but recall I was born and raised South of the Mason-Dixon Line!
 :silly:
(The next conflict won't be between North and South).  :beer:

And Yep, He's definitely looking out for me!

 :silly: :silly: :silly:
You know I am just pokin fun.
 :beer:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 31, 2019, 11:58:56 pm
:silly: :silly: :silly:
You know I am just pokin fun.
 :beer:
Yep! (I'm just pokin' back!)  :silly:

 :beer:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sanguine on June 01, 2019, 12:01:23 am
LOL!

@Sanguine

Well, the pudding is because I found out my milk has almost turned, and I have to use it up... BTW, make it with cream skimmed off of raw milk and you will never go back...

But yeah - Sabbath is a celebration. I try not to cook after friday sundown, so I go at it early on friday afternoon and make what I need for Shabbat.

So egg/bacon/cheese salad on sourdough for breakfast, a nice beef salsa thing on a pretzel roll for lunch, and chili or chili mac for tonight and saturday night... Plenty of fruit (to include my first watermelon for the year), and of course, the brownies in a salted caramel sauce...

I wish I had an avacado for under the egg salad, but I'll make due without.  :shrug:

I wondered.  People have different customs...
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: corbe on June 01, 2019, 12:05:03 am
  :nono: Slander me, sir, if you must, but recall I was born and raised South of the Mason-Dixon Line!
 :silly:
(The next conflict won't be between North and South).  :beer:

And Yep, He's definitely looking out for me!

   We certainly need to move beyond Trumpers against the World, it's getting stale.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on June 01, 2019, 12:09:34 am
Yep! (I'm just pokin' back!)  :silly:

 :beer:

These pokins are making me thirsty.   888mouth
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on June 01, 2019, 12:14:12 am
I wondered.  People have different customs...

 :shrug:
No custom... Just trying to go by what the Bible says.

Don't work (other than chores), don't travel (other than a little hiking), don't cook (so cold-cuts, I guess).
A day of rest with family to include the Father above... By definition, it is a feast, not a fast.

So a Bible study down at the fishin hole ought not be out of the ordinary.
and if I happen to bring a sammich and some brownies (in a perfect home-made salted caramel sauce), what could be wrong with that?

And that's the plan.
 :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on June 01, 2019, 12:16:53 am
These pokins are making me thirsty.   888mouth

I've got a porch and PBR, Jussayin.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sanguine on June 01, 2019, 12:17:16 am
:shrug:
No custom... Just trying to go by what the Bible says.

Don't work (other than chores), don't travel (other than a little hiking), don't cook (so cold-cuts, I guess).
A day of rest with family to include the Father above... By definition, it is a feast, not a fast.

So a Bible study down at the fishin hole ought not be out of the ordinary.
and if I happen to bring a sammich and some brownies (in a perfect home-made salted caramel sauce), what could be wrong with that?

And that's the plan.
 :shrug:

Sounds heavenly.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on June 01, 2019, 12:20:56 am
And a PERFECT home made salted caramel sauce...
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: XenaLee on June 01, 2019, 12:25:14 am
I've got a porch and PBR, Jussayin.

Lol!!!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on June 01, 2019, 12:37:08 am
Thanks to all y'all for your defense in my absence.
I consider myself to be in the best of company!

@Bigun
@Sanguine
@XenaLee
@Cyber Liberty

 :beer: :patriot: :seeya:

I call um like I see um.   Always have and always will. 

As to good company,   I doubt there is any better to find.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sanguine on June 01, 2019, 12:40:41 am
I call um like I see um.   Always have and always will. 

As to good company,   I doubt there is any better to find.

 888high58888
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on June 01, 2019, 12:47:25 am
Yeah, sorry to crash the party on exclusivity, nobody needs the South's heritage of slavery or lynching, Romer1 doesn't need to lecture us on religion or the south, he abandoned the unborn.  Enough, of this one way drama here at the expense of others. It took real bravery to fight against a side that had this evil on its side, that being slavery. Slavery has nothing to do with being a good Christian, don't bully your bankrupt morals into this thread.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Fishrrman on June 01, 2019, 12:54:20 am
A "Roy Moore thread" here at the Briefing Room is always a good time to find out which way the sentiments and true political "tilts" of the members of this forum REALLY lean...

Fishrrman <-- keepin' notes
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: EdJames on June 01, 2019, 01:01:51 am
And a PERFECT home made salted caramel sauce...

@roamer_1

OK, I'll bite...  can you share your secrets for the  PERFECT home made salted caramel sauce?

(One of my favorites and would love a good recipe and/or tips!)
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: EdJames on June 01, 2019, 01:04:14 am
Yeah, sorry to crash the party on exclusivity, nobody needs the South's heritage of slavery or lynching, Romer1 doesn't need to lecture us on religion or the south, he abandoned the unborn.  Enough, of this one way drama here at the expense of others. It took real bravery to fight against a side that had this evil on its side, that being slavery. Slavery has nothing to do with being a good Christian, don't bully your bankrupt morals into this thread.

@TomSea

These are the kinds of posts that make me scratch my head, Tommy...

You do such a great job with your research and digging on so many topics...  also provide us a lot of good "big picture" views on key world events....

Why do you blow up and crap like this on a thread from time to time??

I just don't get it.

 :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: corbe on June 01, 2019, 01:11:42 am
   Look on the bright side @EdJames he didn't accuse you of facilitating the killing of Christians in the Middle East.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 01, 2019, 01:18:46 am
A "Roy Moore thread" here at the Briefing Room is always a good time to find out which way the sentiments and true political "tilts" of the members of this forum REALLY lean...

Fishrrman <-- keepin' notes

Oh, you too?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on June 01, 2019, 01:31:54 am
@roamer_1

OK, I'll bite...  can you share your secrets for the  PERFECT home made salted caramel sauce?

(One of my favorites and would love a good recipe and/or tips!)

@EdJames

Kinda this:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFUu6KEbGl4#)

I put the measured (salted) butter in the freezer just as I start, and I suspect I am using more vanilla. and the only trick I have is that I want a deeper tone, so I put a tiny bit of blackstrap molasses in it once the cream and butter calm down, but while it is still hot...

I mean I take a regular table spoon, dunk it in the room temp molasses before I start, and let it drip back into the bottle the whole time till there is just a skiff of it left on the spoon... whatever will not fall off... Then I drag that through the caramel till the most of it comes off... That gave me that deep tone I wanted. 

I had one heck of a time not getting toffee at the end, my old way, but this stays nice and soft.

A nice hunk of brownie, scatter some finely chopped walnuts on top (pecans are better if you have em), drizzle liberally with the caramel sauce, and finish with a very light dust of sea salt.

It is perfection.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: EdJames on June 01, 2019, 01:40:26 am
   Look on the bright side @EdJames he didn't accuse you of facilitating the killing of Christians in the Middle East.

You have a great knack of seeing the bright side in things, @corbe !
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: EdJames on June 01, 2019, 01:41:54 am
@EdJames

Kinda this:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/watch?v=SFUu6KEbGl4#)

I put the measured (salted) butter in the freezer just as I start, and I suspect I am using more vanilla. and the only trick I have is that I want a deeper tone, so I put a tiny bit of blackstrap molasses in it once the cream and butter calm down, but while it is still hot...

I mean I take a regular table spoon, dunk it in the room temp molasses before I start, and let it drip back into the bottle the whole time till there is just a skiff of it left on the spoon... whatever will not fall off... Then I drag that through the caramel till the most of it comes off... That gave me that deep tone I wanted. 

I had one heck of a time not getting toffee at the end, my old way, but this stays nice and soft.

A nice hunk of brownie, scatter some finely chopped walnuts on top (pecans are better if you have em), drizzle liberally with the caramel sauce, and finish with a very light dust of sea salt.

It is perfection.

@roamer_1

Thank you kindly, sir!

Video opened in a new tab and your notes copied into a recipe text file!!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sanguine on June 01, 2019, 01:50:57 am
@roamer_1

Thank you kindly, sir!

Video opened in a new tab and your notes copied into a recipe text file!!

Let us know how it turns out!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on June 01, 2019, 01:53:14 am
Thank you kindly, sir!


Enjoy!

 888high58888
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on June 01, 2019, 03:17:59 am
Mo Brooks and others are as Southern as anyone including Moore. We just hear about Moore more, publicity seeker? I don't know but he somewhat stopped campaigning last time as well.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 01, 2019, 07:10:09 am
Yeah, sorry to crash the party on exclusivity, nobody needs the South's heritage of slavery or lynching, Romer1 doesn't need to lecture us on religion or the south, he abandoned the unborn.  Enough, of this one way drama here at the expense of others. It took real bravery to fight against a side that had this evil on its side, that being slavery. Slavery has nothing to do with being a good Christian, don't bully your bankrupt morals into this thread.
Read your Bible, boy, and you will find out the South didn't invent slavery, Learn your history, and you can pack your Yankee sanctimony away for the tourists. You act as if the North never had slaves or never traded in them. You act as if the North never hanged a man who didn't deserve it, yet they invaded and burned a whole region in the name of "unity" and stole much of what wasn't nailed down, and some of what was (See:Carpetbaggers).
Spare me.
It's a long fall from a high horse, so maybe you'd better get down.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on June 01, 2019, 12:58:15 pm
"With malice toward none, and with charity for all."

Abraham Lincoln
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on June 01, 2019, 01:15:14 pm
Read your Bible, boy, and you will find out the South didn't invent slavery, Learn your history, and you can pack your Yankee sanctimony away for the tourists. You act as if the North never had slaves or never traded in them. You act as if the North never hanged a man who didn't deserve it, yet they invaded and burned a whole region in the name of "unity" and stole much of what wasn't nailed down, and some of what was (See:Carpetbaggers).
Spare me.
It's a long fall from a high horse, so maybe you'd better get down.

@Smokin Joe 's bitter screed reminds me that Southerners have always had an uneasy relationship with the Republican Party.  The GOP is unashamedly the Party of Lincoln, which indeed fought a war to unify a nation and, in the process, cleanse it of the moral stain of slavery.   It is the GOP that passed the 14th amendment that added the Constitution's guarantee of the law's equal protection.   It is, in that sense, the party of the North, and the Democrats the historic apologists for the slavers' lost cause.   It was Nixon who changed that, and turned the GOP into a party that could attract Southerners.   Today, of course,  it is dominated by them, and it is Republicans like me that are in the eclipse.   

I don't have rose colored glasses;  the GOP and the North created with Reconstruction and the failure to carry through with it the conditions which spawned lynching and the reaction of Jim Crow.    It was Southerners who insisted on Jim Crow,  and the North was too spineless to resist it.   But,  again,  the defining mission of the GOP as set out by Lincoln itself was reconciliation,  and it would take a century to understand that acquiescing to southern whites' bitterness would lead to today's identity politics by creating a wound that could never heal.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: EdJames on June 01, 2019, 02:15:36 pm
Let us know how it turns out!

I will, but it won't be soon....  I pretty much reserve desserts (aside from fruit) for special occasions...  maybe Independence Day!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sanguine on June 01, 2019, 02:33:00 pm
I will, but it won't be soon....  I pretty much reserve desserts (aside from fruit) for special occasions...  maybe Independence Day!

Same here.  I was trying to live vicariously through you.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 01, 2019, 03:08:29 pm
@Smokin Joe 's bitter screed reminds me that Southerners have always had an uneasy relationship with the Republican Party.  The GOP is unashamedly the Party of Lincoln, which indeed fought a war to unify a nation and, in the process, cleanse it of the moral stain of slavery.   It is the GOP that passed the 14th amendment that added the Constitution's guarantee of the law's equal protection.   It is, in that sense, the party of the North, and the Democrats the historic apologists for the slavers' lost cause.   It was Nixon who changed that, and turned the GOP into a party that could attract Southerners.   Today, of course,  it is dominated by them, and it is Republicans like me that are in the eclipse.   

I don't have rose colored glasses;  the GOP and the North created with Reconstruction and the failure to carry through with it the conditions which spawned lynching and the reaction of Jim Crow.    It was Southerners who insisted on Jim Crow,  and the North was too spineless to resist it.   But,  again,  the defining mission of the GOP as set out by Lincoln itself was reconciliation,  and it would take a century to understand that acquiescing to southern whites' bitterness would lead to today's identity politics by creating a wound that could never heal.
How conveniently you leave out the Northerners' slaves ( Newport, Rhode Island, was one of the busiest ports of the slave trade), and the actions of their Generals, hanging civilians in the South (George Armstrong Custer was one of the worst).
I suppose you are going to tell me the North never had 'those people' come and go by the 'servant's entrance', wait on a different bench and drink from different water fountains--in Washington DC, even (don't bother, I saw it). As I said, spare me your sanctimony.
When the South no longer gave the consent of the governed, a requirement for 'just power', the North invaded and imposed it, murdering and burning along the way. The aftermath was often overseen by Yankees or their appointees, or the slim pickings offered in sham elections supervised by the occupiers. The post bellum problems are a result of those policies, and not native to the South, but imposed by a conqueror, not a 'reunifier'.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: EdJames on June 01, 2019, 03:38:37 pm
Same here.  I was trying to live vicariously through you.   :laugh:


 :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on June 01, 2019, 03:54:49 pm
How conveniently you leave out the Northerners' slaves ( Newport, Rhode Island, was one of the busiest ports of the slave trade), and the actions of their Generals, hanging civilians in the South (George Armstrong Custer was one of the worst).
I suppose you are going to tell me the North never had 'those people' come and go by the 'servant's entrance', wait on a different bench and drink from different water fountains--in Washington DC, even (don't bother, I saw it). As I said, spare me your sanctimony.
When the South no longer gave the consent of the governed, a requirement for 'just power', the North invaded and imposed it, murdering and burning along the way. The aftermath was often overseen by Yankees or their appointees, or the slim pickings offered in sham elections supervised by the occupiers. The post bellum problems are a result of those policies, and not native to the South, but imposed by a conqueror, not a 'reunifier'.

@Smokin Joe

@Jazzhead 's ignorance is only exceeded by his insistence on continually proving it.  Which is why I don't see his posts unless someone quotes him as you did above.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on June 01, 2019, 03:56:02 pm
(https://angryamericanbirds.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/lynching-map.gif)

https://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4956&context=etd (https://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4956&context=etd)

Slavery, emancipation and Black freedom in RhodeIsland, 1652-1842

http://slavenorth.com/rhodeisland.htm (http://slavenorth.com/rhodeisland.htm)

Sorry, slavery ended in Rhode Island well before the war.  Looks like slave ships stopped going to Rhode Island a long time before the war but who cares about the truth.

If you are talking about "murdering", then ask those people in Kansas about raids. There's going to be enough to go all around.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on June 01, 2019, 04:04:49 pm
Nor, should we forget, the massacres of slaves by the Confederacy, Bedford Forest and others.

Quote
On April 16, 1864, the New York Times reported that rebel forces under the command of General Nathan Bedford Forrest, after twice using a “flag of truce” to maneuver prior to attack, overwhelmed defenders. After taking the fort, “the Confederates commenced an indiscriminate butchery of the whites and blacks, including those of both colors who had been previously wounded.” Black women and children in the fort were also slaughtered. “Out of the garrison of six hundred, only two hundred remained alive.” In the same issue, the Times published an account of events from a “correspondent of the Union, who was on board the steamer Platte Valley at Fort Pillow.” This correspondent “gives even a more appalling description of the fiendishness of the rebels.”

“On the morning after the battle the rebels went over the field, and shot the negroes who had not died from their wounds . . . . Many of those who had escaped from the works and hospital, who desired to be treated as prisoners of war, as the rebels said, were ordered to fall into line, and when they had formed, were inhumanly shot down. Of 350 colored troops not more than 56 escaped the massacre, and not one officer that commanded them survives.”

The Black soldiers who were butchered in cold blood by the Confederate troops were regularly enlisted in the Union army, were in full uniform, and were defending the United States flag.

https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/168687

Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 01, 2019, 04:06:30 pm
(https://angryamericanbirds.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/lynching-map.gif)

https://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4956&context=etd (https://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4956&context=etd)

Slavery, emancipation and Black freedom in RhodeIsland, 1652-1842

http://slavenorth.com/rhodeisland.htm (http://slavenorth.com/rhodeisland.htm)

Sorry, slavery ended in Rhode Island well before the war.

If you are talking about "murdering", then ask those people in Kansas about raids. There's going to be enough to go all around.
That didn't stop ships sailing from there from being involved in the trade.
We ship weapons we can't individually own all over the world, for example. They're banned here, but go elsewhere.
How many blacks do you think were lynched in Montana? I notice some core Yankee states didn't bother to report....

And yes, I am talking about General George Armstrong Custer ordering the execution of southern men who were noncombatants in the Carolinas. Farms were stripped bare, livestock "conscripted" (stolen) or butchered, without compensation, men killed and widows and orphans left to starve, their houses, barns, and mills burned. 

Don't be so self-righteous. History books always whitewash the victors and demonize the vanquished. It's the way of the world.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on June 01, 2019, 04:09:01 pm
Quote
Poll: Mo Brooks Will Crush Roy Moore In 2020 Alabama State Primary
2:56 PM 03/14/2019 | Politics
Phillip Stucky | Contributor

The conservative action group Club for Growth released a poll Thursday that revealed Rep. Mo Brooks could demolish Roy Moore in the 2020 Alabama Senate primary.

Republican Rep. Mo Brooks earned 52-percent support, compared to Moore who only earned 32 percent. An additional 16 percent remained undecided in the poll.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/14/moore-trails-brooks/

There you go, this is from March but Brooks might trounce Moore anyway, making this point academic.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sanguine on June 01, 2019, 04:10:36 pm
Good grief, are you serious?  Another stupid Roy Moore thread devolving into refighting the war between the states and "proving" how evil southerners were?

I was trying to figure out why this thread generated so many comments, and now I get it.  Roy Moore, imperfect though he may be, is seen as a symbol of the common man, the common Southern man.  Those who despise the common man and particularly despise the southern part are anti-Moore.  Those who see him as a wronged symbol of common southern men, see him as another victim of the elitists.  That's not very well worded, but I think I captured the essence.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on June 01, 2019, 04:13:47 pm
Good grief, are you serious?  Another stupid Roy Moore thread devolving into refighting the war between the states and "proving" how evil southerners were?

I was trying to figure out why this thread generated so many comments, and now I get it.  Roy Moore, imperfect though he may be, is seen as a symbol of the common man, the common Southern man.  Those who despise the common man and particularly despise the southern part are anti-Moore.  Those who see him as a wronged symbol of common southern men, see him as another victim of the elitists.  That's not very well worded, but I think I captured the essence.

No, there are others in this race, why is not Mo Brooks seen as the quintessential Southern Man???

Others run with Roy Moore in this manner.  He has no monopoly on this. And Mo Brooks may well trounce Roy Moore in primaries.  Moore had his shot, he had his time, Brooks deserves to be spoken up for as well.

Oh, yes, anti-Trumpers should set the tempo, even though Trump won the deep red states of the South in general big time.

They speak up for Moore but some or all were anti-Trump, don't like the turn-of-events, sorry.  Sure, they have a right to speak. So do others.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 01, 2019, 04:23:09 pm
Good grief, are you serious?  Another stupid Roy Moore thread devolving into refighting the war between the states and "proving" how evil southerners were?

I was trying to figure out why this thread generated so many comments, and now I get it.  Roy Moore, imperfect though he may be, is seen as a symbol of the common man, the common Southern man.  Those who despise the common man and particularly despise the southern part are anti-Moore.  Those who see him as a wronged symbol of common southern men, see him as another victim of the elitists.  That's not very well worded, but I think I captured the essence.
You did just fine, imho.  :beer:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sanguine on June 01, 2019, 04:30:28 pm
No, there are others in this race, why is not Mo Brooks seen as the quintessential Southern Man???

Others run with Roy Moore in this manner.  He has no monopoly on this. And Mo Brooks may well trounce Roy Moore in primaries.  Moore had his shot, he had his time, Brooks deserves to be spoken up for as well.

Oh, yes, anti-Trumpers should set the tempo, even though Trump won the deep red states of the South in general big time.

They speak up for Moore but some or all were anti-Trump, don't like the turn-of-events, sorry.  Sure, they have a right to speak. So do others.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 01, 2019, 04:32:00 pm
No, there are others in this race, why is not Mo Brooks seen as the quintessential Southern Man???

Others run with Roy Moore in this manner.  He has no monopoly on this. And Mo Brooks may well trounce Roy Moore in primaries.  Moore had his shot, he had his time, Brooks deserves to be spoken up for as well.

Oh, yes, anti-Trumpers should set the tempo, even though Trump won the deep red states of the South in general big time.

They speak up for Moore but some or all were anti-Trump, don't like the turn-of-events, sorry.  Sure, they have a right to speak. So do others.

What I didn't and still don't like are the smear tactics, astroturf campaigns and lies used to hurt Moore's chances last time. Put any candidate up against a couple of professionally run $100,000 dollar social media bombardments, and it's going to hurt, especially with the MSM chiming in with 11th hour smears above the fold, the GLBTs up in arms (Because Moore wouldn't DEFY THE ALABAMA CONSTITUTION--which it was his sworn duty to uphold) and issue same sex marriage licenses, not to mention the Country Club in the D.C. Swamp abandoning the candidate quicker than a cat who sat in kerosene.
Your much vaunted GOP threw Moore to the wolves, and were happy to do so, because he wasn't the guy they wanted.
No one is denying anyone the opportunity to speak, except those calling for Moore to shut up and bow out.

It's up to Alabamans, anyway, and I hope they choose the person who best represents their values.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Jazzhead on June 01, 2019, 04:32:56 pm

Don't be so self-righteous. History books always whitewash the victors and demonize the vanquished. It's the way of the world.

Who do you consider the vanquished?   Southern whites?   The ones who formed the Klan, imposed Jim Crow, and sowed the Strange Fruit?   My apologies for daring to "demonize" such saintly behavior.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 01, 2019, 04:40:47 pm
Who do you consider the vanquished?   Southern whites?   The ones who formed the Klan, imposed Jim Crow, and sowed the Strange Fruit?   My apologies for daring to "demonize" such saintly behavior.   
Read my comments on Jim Crow above. You act as if it was just a southern phenomenon, and I assure you it was not. I make no excuses for the Klan, except to say they were not as endemic as you seem to think.

You still act as if the people who looted and burned their way through the South, and then stole a bunch of it for 'back taxes' were righteous. 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on June 01, 2019, 04:41:38 pm
For all we know, Trump Jr. might have made his statements on behalf of some interested parties of Alabama.

This other is just divisive. These others speak for the South which voted overwhelmingly for Trump in the primaries and general election but now, all of a sudden, anti-Trumpers define what the South is and are free to ignore this other.  It's ludicrous. They asked for it, this should not be just set aside.

And I'm sorry furthermore, Senator Jeff Sessions is known to have prosecuted and convicted those white supremacists, Klan, whatever they are, they are part of the equation. I guess, it's more like a Roy Moore fan club but he might get defeated well in the coming primary race.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 01, 2019, 04:44:36 pm
For all we know, Trump Jr. might have made his statements on behalf of some interested parties of Alabama.

This other is just divisive. These others speak for the South which voted overwhelmingly for Trump in the primaries and general election but now, all of a sudden, anti-Trumpers define what the South is and are free to ignore this other.  It's ludicrous. They asked for it, this should not be just set aside.

And I'm sorry furthermore, Senator Jeff Sessions is known to have prosecuted and convicted those white supremacists, Klan, whatever they are, they are part of the equation. I guess, it's more like a Roy Moore fan club but he might get defeated well in the coming primary race.
So who made JUNIOR lord and master over the fiefdom of Alabama?

He really has nothing to offer but an opinion. Meh.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: catfish1957 on June 01, 2019, 05:06:13 pm
I am no Ray Moore fan, but who the hell is junior and what business is it his for him to dictate what Alabamans want.   Keep your trap shut you freakin' yankee.

Geez, I'll be so glad when the  Trumps are gone once and for all.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 01, 2019, 05:33:09 pm
I don't think he could win either.  I would tell Trump Jr. that the same thing goes for daddy Trump.....'its time to ride off into the sunset'
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: corbe on June 01, 2019, 05:40:36 pm
   Allow me, @TomSea to expound on your excellent theory degrading the South, in general, We are a bunch of dumb hicks, proving it by voting for Trump but the majority of Northerners proved they're stupider than US by voting majority hellary.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 01, 2019, 06:05:23 pm
   Allow me, @TomSea to expound on your excellent theory degrading the South, in general, We are a bunch of dumb hicks, proving it by voting for Trump but the majority of Northerners proved they're stupider than US by voting majority hellary.



OUCH!  The Democrats are the party of slavery.  They still keep African Americans enslaved with their govment payments.  As if they are not egumecated enuf to rise above poverty and welfaar.  Not even to mention black genocide called Planned Parenthood.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on June 01, 2019, 06:35:11 pm
   Allow me, @TomSea to expound on your excellent theory degrading the South, in general, We are a bunch of dumb hicks, proving it by voting for Trump but the majority of Northerners proved they're stupider than US by voting majority hellary.

The South might be voting like the North if a great numbers of slaves did not flee to the North nor if Southern or Texan President Lyndon Johnson did not mode the "Great Society" programs.  @corbe  I believe I saw a stat that South Carolina even was 80% slave at one point.

You won't shame me, this is just history.  Others were saying other negative things, that's why I think such talk is divisive to begin with.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on June 01, 2019, 06:37:11 pm


OUCH!  The Democrats are the party of slavery.  They still keep African Americans enslaved with their govment payments.  As if they are not egumecated enuf to rise above poverty and welfaar.  Not even to mention black genocide called Planned Parenthood.

This is all very true.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 01, 2019, 06:58:31 pm
This is all very true.


And even worse the Socialist plans of the Democratic party continues to further enslave African Americans.  The Sanctuary city policies too since African Americans are most affected by these policies.  Places like Chicago where they Democratic Party leadership has failed the African American communities.  The schools are failures and the lack of direction leading to the crime has failed and produced dependency on a city that doesn't care about them.  Furthermore the Sanctuary policies further the problem by taking jobs that undereducated African Americans need and give them to illegal immigrants.


https://abc7chicago.com/news/emanuel-chicago-to-remain-a-sanctuary-city-for-immigrants/1606252/
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on June 01, 2019, 10:52:21 pm
   Allow me, @TomSea to expound on your excellent theory degrading the South, in general, We are a bunch of dumb hicks, proving it by voting for Trump but the majority of Northerners proved they're stupider than US by voting majority hellary.

"You might be a redneck if you voted for Trump"

You know, I like it. It's funny and people would like the way it lightens up political debate.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/y0_mPkvvyJw/movieposter.jpg)

@corbe 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: roamer_1 on June 02, 2019, 01:43:12 pm
Yeah, sorry to crash the party on exclusivity, nobody needs the South's heritage of slavery or lynching, Romer1 doesn't need to lecture us on religion or the south, he abandoned the unborn.  Enough, of this one way drama here at the expense of others. It took real bravery to fight against a side that had this evil on its side, that being slavery. Slavery has nothing to do with being a good Christian, don't bully your bankrupt morals into this thread.

@mystery-ak
@Mod1

In the first damn place, I 'lectured' NO ONE on religion - @Sanguine  asked about a comment I made in passing, and I replied in two posts which only offered my practices, and that in a cheery and off-hand way.

In the second damn place, Nothing the hell AT ALL was said by me about the South, except again, an off-hand implied joke directly pointed at @Smokin Joe

And in the third damn place, the most scurrilous charge, I have neither 'abandoned the unborn' nor will I EVER.

I have ignored @TomSea 's insipid posts for years - Him being the only person to remain on my ignore list for extended periods of time - mostly because of his inability to type a coherent sentence...

But now I am calling him out.

<<Cyber Note:  We weren't aware of Tom's violation of the Personal Attack rule because nobody reported it to the Mods.  Let's not escalate the fight.>>

You want to know why folks are fallin off here, it's shit like this.
That I should even have to defend myself against this crap is an amazement to me.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: mystery-ak on June 02, 2019, 02:24:51 pm
Quote
Quote from: TomSea on May 31, 2019, 07:47:25 PM

    Yeah, sorry to crash the party on exclusivity, nobody needs the South's heritage of slavery or lynching, Romer1 doesn't need to lecture us on religion or the south, he abandoned the unborn.  Enough, of this one way drama here at the expense of others. It took real bravery to fight against a side that had this evil on its side, that being slavery. Slavery has nothing to do with being a good Christian, don't bully your bankrupt morals into this thread.

Tom..that was uncalled for.

Roy Moore sure brings out the worst in people..I swear I am about ready to ban anymore Roy Moore articles...this one is closed.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: mystery-ak on June 02, 2019, 03:07:25 pm
Okay I am re-opening this thread.

Please no more personal insults
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on June 02, 2019, 03:11:13 pm
@mystery-ak
@Mod1

In the first damn place, I 'lectured' NO ONE on religion - @Sanguine  asked about a comment I made in passing, and I replied in two posts which only offered my practices, and that in a cheery and off-hand way.

In the second damn place, Nothing the hell AT ALL was said by me about the South, except again, an off-hand implied joke directly pointed at @Smokin Joe

And in the third damn place, the most scurrilous charge, I have neither 'abandoned the unborn' nor will I EVER.

I have ignored @TomSea 's insipid posts for years - Him being the only person to remain on my ignore list for extended periods of time - mostly because of his inability to type a coherent sentence...

But now I am calling him out.

<<Cyber Note:  We weren't aware of Tom's violation of the Personal Attack rule because nobody reported it to the Mods.  Let's not escalate the fight.>>

You want to know why folks are fallin off here, it's shit like this.
That I should even have to defend myself against this crap is an amazement to me.

@roamer_1

For whatever it's worth to you, I agree with every word you said.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 02, 2019, 04:32:55 pm
@roamer_1 

Its expected that people attack us because of our faith.  It gets annoying but count it all joy!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: TomSea on June 02, 2019, 04:52:35 pm
@roamer_1 

Its expected that people attack us because of our faith.  It gets annoying but count it all joy!

Words from the mouths of babes, your way would have abandoned Christians in the Middle East. Syria and Iraq but you don't seem to know anything about fioreign policy to begin with.  That's what Trump's policy has done and that means stopping their slaughter from ISIS, yet, your way would have nullified that.  Your way would have continued persecution of Christians in the Middle East a la Obama,  your views are just too uninformed to even realize that in your anti-Trump rants.  I repeat, genocide against Christians would have likely continued with no GOP or Trump in the White House.

Too busy talking about Gog and Magog coming down from the North and the 144,000 saved to know about modern current events!

As for Romer, there seems to be a certain faith, he can't let go, without detracting remarks, so let's not be hypocrites, what? St. Jerome's Bible, Latin Vulgate, poor translation? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.  No authoritative position here, St. Jerome was just of the wrong faith. 

@Chosen Daughter

My last word on the topic,  Jesus had humility too, end of topic.

Roy Moore is close to irrelevant, Mo Brooks will give him a good ol' Texas a$$ whupin', people like to dish it out but can't take it.

And maybe you don't represent Christianity either, if it would have abandoned Christians to the worse. I make no such claim.

But I'm not here just to shoot my mouth off about guns or whatever, just being self-promoting in all. That's it is just about me-me-me.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sighlass on June 02, 2019, 05:29:08 pm
Tom, you do remember that Mo (whom I also like) lost to that "loser" Roy last time.... yet folks like to call Roy the loser.... what changed?

(https://i.postimg.cc/2jgLwVNv/Roy-Moore-1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/J0YDVzsw/Roy-Moore-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 02, 2019, 07:09:42 pm
Words from the mouths of babes, your way would have abandoned Christians in the Middle East. Syria and Iraq but you don't seem to know anything about fioreign policy to begin with.  That's what Trump's policy has done and that means stopping their slaughter from ISIS, yet, your way would have nullified that.  Your way would have continued persecution of Christians in the Middle East a la Obama,  your views are just too uninformed to even realize that in your anti-Trump rants.  I repeat, genocide against Christians would have likely continued with no GOP or Trump in the White House.

Too busy talking about Gog and Magog coming down from the North and the 144,000 saved to know about modern current events!

As for Romer, there seems to be a certain faith, he can't let go, without detracting remarks, so let's not be hypocrites, what? St. Jerome's Bible, Latin Vulgate, poor translation? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.  No authoritative position here, St. Jerome was just of the wrong faith. 


@Chosen Daughter

My last word on the topic,  Jesus had humility too, end of topic.

Roy Moore is close to irrelevant, Mo Brooks will give him a good ol' Texas a$$ whupin', people like to dish it out but can't take it.

And maybe you don't represent Christianity either, if it would have abandoned Christians to the worse. I make no such claim.

But I'm not here just to shoot my mouth off about guns or whatever, just being self-promoting in all. That's it is just about me-me-me.



What a rant!  Unfortunately not any of it true.  My way?  What is my way?  I oppose ISIS just like any human being should do.  Of course I applaud the work of "defeating ISIS".  I don't think its quite time to declare them gone though.  And I don't think we should be negotiating peace with the Taliban when they are still blowing people up in Afghanistan either.  Furthermore with the escalation in Iran why would you want to pull troops from Afghanistan?  I also know who is a threat and who beheads people.  Who poses threats to Christians.   I am not any expert about foreign affairs but I do understand who borders who in the ME.   I do what I can.  I pray.  As for knowledge of foreign affairs I read a lot.  Here's some information for you that didn't come from Donald Trumps lips.

How ISIS Still Threatens Iraq
Roiled with internal divisions, Iraqi forces struggle to fully eliminate the Islamic State.
By Pesha Magid | May 28, 2019, 10:55 AM

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/05/28/how-isis-still-threatens-iraq/

If its back to Hillary I never voted for her and never would. 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: catfish1957 on June 02, 2019, 07:10:11 pm

Quote
<<Cyber Note:  We weren't aware of Tom's violation of the Personal Attack rule because nobody reported it to the Mods.  Let's not escalate the fight.>>


I avoid this jerk like the plague, though it still floors me that he is allowed forum moderator status.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: EdJames on June 02, 2019, 07:15:29 pm
I still say that the Republican nominee for the Alabama Senate seat is up to the good Republican primary voters of the great state of Alabama.

Trump, Jr. should keep his mouth shut.    888mouth
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Sanguine on June 02, 2019, 07:18:00 pm
I still say that the Republican nominee for the Alabama Senate seat is up to the good Republican primary voters of the great state of Alabama.

Trump, Jr. should keep his mouth shut.    888mouth

I agree,  on both points.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: LegalAmerican on June 02, 2019, 07:22:04 pm
Why?  @Sighlass actually lives in Alabama. If I lived there I would be supporting Roy Moore as well.

Because it is a wasted vote!  Does NOT help the country.  Of course it is always about our OWN...FEELINGS.  NOT WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY.  I support Roy Moore, but he was so DAMAGED by demon-rats..IT IS DIFFICULT TO RECOVER FROM THAT,  & those lies will be wrought up again by DEMON-RATS.  ROY MOORE IS INNOCENT...but that does not matter to some.  Same with my INNOCENT PRESIDENT!  Make your vote...COUNT. 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: corbe on June 02, 2019, 07:26:56 pm
   @TomSea and I have our differences and they can be insurmountable for brief periods of time but I cannot forget the amount of effort he brings to World News and Music. 
   Sure, he has his idiosyncrasies, as we all do, but if you just consider him as your horny old Aunt at Thanksgiving from years ago, you'll be fine, it works for me.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 02, 2019, 07:27:54 pm
I still say that the Republican nominee for the Alabama Senate seat is up to the good Republican primary voters of the great state of Alabama.

Trump, Jr. should keep his mouth shut.    888mouth

Amen.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 02, 2019, 07:42:07 pm
@TomSea

More information showing that Taliban is nowhere near peace even though Trump is asking Congress to pay for their expenses:


On the Edge of Afghanistan
A decimated economy, a resurgent Taliban, and growing tensions with Iran are driving disenchanted Afghans to seek opportunities abroad. And for many it’s their only option.

Of all of Afghanistan’s lawless provinces, Nimruz is perhaps the rawest and most untamed. The desert in southwestern Afghanistan, cornering up against Iran and Pakistan, looks like something out of Mad Max: a post-apocalyptic wasteland where only camel herders and smugglers seem to thrive. Sandstorms kick up without warning, swallowing the horizon in a thick beige mist. Out of the haze, a group of motorcyclists suddenly rides past, their hair stiff with grit and their eyes hidden by goggles.
This is wild country.

Nimruz is a microcosm of what has gone wrong in the Afghan war. The province’s lawlessness is a testament to the Western-backed government’s failure to assert authority and curtail rogue strongmen. As Afghanistan’s drug-smuggling hub, it provides a financial artery for the Taliban, who appear stronger than ever. And because of its largely unprotected borders, and complicity from the few forces that actually guard them, it has long been a gateway for the growing number of Afghans who, facing increasing violence and a stagnant economy, have simply lost hope that their motherland can be their home.
Despite the dangers that await — kidnappers, insurgents, corrupt border guards, and some 16,000 square miles of merciless terrain — what lies beyond the wilderness calls to young Afghan men like sirens in the desert..........

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/12/on-the-edge-of-afghanistan-taliban-iran-war-united-states/ (https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/12/on-the-edge-of-afghanistan-taliban-iran-war-united-states/)

Common Enemies
Iran has ramped up its support due to recent events in Afghanistan, namely Washington’s erratic policy switch—from Obama’s scheduled drawdown in 2014 to the now seemingly done deal involving increased U.S. support, as evidenced by the recent dropping of the “mother-of-all-bombs.” The Trump administration’s u-turn has created the uncertainty in Afghanistan. This uncertainty may have played a role in influencing Iran to hedge its bets vis-à-vis Afghan actors, in particular the Taliban.
With the cooling period in U.S.-Iranian relations, after the new U.S. administration entered office, Iran’s leaders are concerned once again about the United States using Afghanistan as a base from which to launch a potential attack on their country. Thus in the short term, at least, the Taliban is furthering Iranian interests via its insurgency against the U.S.-backed government.

The rise of ISIS in the eastern part of the country is also of great concern to Iran. ISIS, which wields the most acute hostility toward Shiites, has recruited fighters to Iran’s west in Iraq and to its east in Afghanistan. Unlike the Taliban, ISIS ideology is transnational and can be used to stir up Iran’s restive Sunni populations. Yet, also unlike the native Taliban, the transnational terrorist group depends upon a nexus of recruiting, coopting, and coercing local groups in Afghanistan. The Taliban has grown to become one of ISIS’ primary enemies in Afghanistan, as ISIS competes with the Taliban, and aims to peel away disaffected fighters from Taliban ranks. Taliban and ISIS fighters regularly clash; in early May, more than two dozen fighters were left dead after an encounter in eastern Nangarhar province.

By providing limited support to the Taliban, Iran is hitting two birds with one stone: creating a buffer against ISIS and preventing the United States from using Afghanistan as a base against Iran.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?action=post;topic=363240.250;last_msg=1982662 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?action=post;topic=363240.250;last_msg=1982662)

Amazing thing, the internet that is.

Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: mystery-ak on June 02, 2019, 08:22:58 pm
There is a reason why there is no Religion Cat at TBR...not because I lack faith, quite the contrary.

This is a Political Forum and a political thread and once you start allowing it posts start sounding like sermons.

I am trying to be reasonable about this but please keep it off political threads...I will allow it on the Life News Cat to some extent.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 02, 2019, 09:00:16 pm
There is a reason why there is no Religion Cat at TBR...not because I lack faith, quite the contrary.

This is a Political Forum and a political thread and once you start allowing it posts start sounding like sermons.

I am trying to be reasonable about this but please keep it off political threads...I will allow it on the Life News Cat to some extent.


Just to be clear.  I only responded because religion is used by some as a opportunity to persecute people because they are believers.  Religion would not have entered before someone says things like "would Jesus".....etc.  Begging the believer to enter into a discussion of faith.  If they don't want people to mention their faith they shouldn't lead them into it.

Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on June 02, 2019, 09:09:50 pm
IMHO what @TomSea has done on this thread is an absolute atrocity and it isn't the first time either.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on June 03, 2019, 02:27:51 pm
Just for you @jmyrlefuller @TomSea:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146622/amp/Barack-Obama-Kenyan-born-2007-according-literary-agency--months-announcing-bid-U-S-presidency.html?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR07bRkskhRhxxTulXXvj3IkXzhw3hKXc0iS8af9CwB5ktK7DH8Y8EJSzDw (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146622/amp/Barack-Obama-Kenyan-born-2007-according-literary-agency--months-announcing-bid-U-S-presidency.html?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR07bRkskhRhxxTulXXvj3IkXzhw3hKXc0iS8af9CwB5ktK7DH8Y8EJSzDw)
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 03, 2019, 04:08:41 pm
I still say that the Republican nominee for the Alabama Senate seat is up to the good Republican primary voters of the great state of Alabama.

Trump, Jr. should keep his mouth shut.    888mouth
Absolutely right on both counts!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 03, 2019, 04:45:09 pm
Just for you @jmyrlefuller @TomSea:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146622/amp/Barack-Obama-Kenyan-born-2007-according-literary-agency--months-announcing-bid-U-S-presidency.html?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR07bRkskhRhxxTulXXvj3IkXzhw3hKXc0iS8af9CwB5ktK7DH8Y8EJSzDw (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146622/amp/Barack-Obama-Kenyan-born-2007-according-literary-agency--months-announcing-bid-U-S-presidency.html?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR07bRkskhRhxxTulXXvj3IkXzhw3hKXc0iS8af9CwB5ktK7DH8Y8EJSzDw)
Oh, a tabloid report! I'm SO convinced now. /sarc

Buzz off, troll.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: LegalAmerican on June 03, 2019, 04:48:45 pm
People just have zero common sense. Meet your new LEADER.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/32488-stacey-abrams-joins-globalist-elite-anointed-by-cfr-bilderberg-group (https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/32488-stacey-abrams-joins-globalist-elite-anointed-by-cfr-bilderberg-group)
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on June 03, 2019, 04:50:58 pm
Oh, a tabloid report! I'm SO convinced now. /sarc

Buzz off, troll.

Did you check out was reported or stick your head back in the sand?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: kevindavis007 on June 03, 2019, 04:55:22 pm
Tom, you do remember that Mo (whom I also like) lost to that "loser" Roy last time.... yet folks like to call Roy the loser.... what changed?

(https://i.postimg.cc/2jgLwVNv/Roy-Moore-1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/J0YDVzsw/Roy-Moore-2.jpg)


Big deal he won the primary.. He lost the general election, that makes him a loser.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
Post by: Bigun on June 03, 2019, 05:12:34 pm

Big deal he won the primary.. He lost the general election, that makes him a loser.

No it doesn't! And BTW: If not for his father and grandfather would have probably wound up selling used cars in Phoenix for a living.