Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'

[Mesaclone]

Can someone please explain how nominating a candidate, who is likely the ONLY Republican candidate who is certain to LOSE this critically important Alabama Senate seat, advances conservatism?

The truth is, losing advances nothing AND Roy Moore is...again...far from the only solid Conservative in Alabama who can fill this seat. The proviso of the great Buckley is to choose the most conservative candidate who can win, not the most conservative candidate who will lose...his assertion is a great expression of common sense. Those supporting Moore, have sadly left common sense in the mud...they seem quite content to lose a key Senate seat so they can proclaim their conservative purity to the world.

Dumb. Just plain dumb.

[Jazzhead]

Can someone please explain how nominating a candidate, who is likely the ONLY Republican candidate who is certain to LOSE this critically important Alabama Senate seat, advances conservatism?

The truth is, losing advances nothing AND Roy Moore is...again...far from the only solid Conservative in Alabama who can fill this seat. The proviso of the great Buckley is to choose the most conservative candidate who can win, not the most conservative candidate who will lose...his assertion is a great expression of common sense. Those supporting Moore, have sadly left common sense in the mud...they seem quite content to lose a key Senate seat so they can proclaim their conservative purity to the world.

Dumb. Just plain dumb.

QFT.    Sometimes I get the impression that conservatives prefer to be back-benchers, able to revel in their purity and perfectly content to not get their hands dirty with the business of governance.

It's not easy to advance conservative priorities in this divided nation.   But there's one area where conservatives have been winning big - the unprecedented ability of this President and Senate to confirm conservative judges.    And in 2020 the GOP will be in a position similar to what the Dems were in in 2018 - most Senators facing election next year will be Republican incumbents.   That means that flipping Alabama back to the GOP side may have profound ramifications,  and Doug Jones' re-election could mean the tide of conservative judges will grind to a halt.   

That's why who the Alabama GOP nominates is of importance to far more than the Republicans of Alabama.   Roy Moore is the stupidest choice possible,  and I trust that Alabamans will be able to resist the urge to romance this fool again.   

[aligncare]

I didn’t like the way they went after Moore in their standard, coordinated, media smear campaign, right out of the democrats’ playbook, and I defended him then.

Unfortunately, Roy Moore is no Donald Trump and didn’t have Trump’s pugnacious abilities to fend off his opponents attacks and Moore lost. His reputation and the perception that he can win was severely damaged. A damaged candidate is not a good bet on which to risk the farm.

So for the good of the senate republican majority he should not seek the nomination.

[DCPatriot]

The man's a fool.  Why would I fear him?    Why not nominate a conservative who can defeat Doug Jones?    No,  you'd rather pound your chest and "stick it" to folks like me. 

Don't be an idiot.   

@Bigun

Damn, you Earl!   Now I'm getting pissed.

Here's a guy saying you're an idiot, and all we get is crickets.

I called you a senile old bastard and you went and put me on 'Ignore'.

 

[DCPatriot]

I didn’t like the way they went after Moore in their standard, coordinated, media smear campaign, right out of the democrats’ playbook, and I defended him then.

Unfortunately, Roy Moore is no Donald Trump and didn’t have Trump’s pugnacious abilities to fend off his opponents attacks and Moore lost. His reputation and the perception that he can win was severely damaged. A damaged candidate is not a good bet on which to risk the farm.

So for the good of the senate republican majority he should not seek the nomination.

Beautifully stated.

Like I said.   Human Frag Grenade.

[DCPatriot]

Can someone please explain how nominating a candidate, who is likely the ONLY Republican candidate who is certain to LOSE this critically important Alabama Senate seat, advances conservatism?

The truth is, losing advances nothing AND Roy Moore is...again...far from the only solid Conservative in Alabama who can fill this seat. The proviso of the great Buckley is to choose the most conservative candidate who can win, not the most conservative candidate who will lose...his assertion is a great expression of common sense. Those supporting Moore, have sadly left common sense in the mud...they seem quite content to lose a key Senate seat so they can proclaim their conservative purity to the world.

Dumb. Just plain dumb.

Naw....it must be something in that Big Sky Montana air.

Sleeping too close to the barn animals or the like.

[berdie]

The bottom line here, to me, is if the people of Alabama want to vote for Moore. It is their prerogative.

[EdJames]

The bottom line here, to me, is if the people of Alabama want to vote for Moore. It is their prerogative.

Exactly, and prior to that, it will be solely up to the Republican primary voters in Alabama to choose the nominee.

[jmyrlefuller]

The bottom line here, to me, is if the people of Alabama want to vote for Moore. It is their prerogative.

Have we not established that they don't?

If the Republican Party insists on putting forth the same candidate that just got rejected, does that not hurt the conservative cause?

[berdie]

The conservative cause?

Well, help me out here about what the Pubs back @jmyrlefuller .  Collins, Murkouski, Romney? And in the past..McCain and others.

To me the bottom line is as I said...whoever the people in Alabama want. I wouldn't like Trump coming out and d*amning a senatorial candidate running in Texas.

[corbe]

   That's why Cruz kissed his azz on that last budget vote (his first) and he almost lost to Beto.

[DCPatriot]

The conservative cause?

Well, help me out here about what the Pubs back @jmyrlefuller .  Collins, Murkouski, Romney? And in the past..McCain and others.

To me the bottom line is as I said...whoever the people in Alabama want. I wouldn't like Trump coming out and d*amning a senatorial candidate running in Texas.

...unless, that is, said candidate had his ass handed to him once already.   Because of self-inflicted wounds.

Come on, man.

As Rush says, we're in for the fight of our lives, our way of life.  Stop f**king around.

[berdie]

Dang, @DCPatriot . Rush said f**king around? Who knew? I don't listen to his show, but that sounds more like Howard Stern, who I don't listen to either.

Lots of people have had their posteriors handed to them when running for office...multiple times. I can think of a few and I'm sure you can.

[TomSea]

It has national ramifications, so, yes, by all means, vote your conscience, history also shows Moore has lost 3 statewide races.

[DCPatriot]

Dang, @DCPatriot . Rush said f**king around? Who knew? I don't listen to his show, but that sounds more like Howard Stern, who I don't listen to either.

Lots of people have had their posteriors handed to them when running for office...multiple times. I can think of a few and I'm sure you can.

LOL!   No, Rush didn't say that, I did.

And this isn't the House.  It's the Senate.

As Lyndon Johnson said about the two, "...difference between chicken sh*t and chicken salad"   

[Fishrrman]

If the Republican voters of Alabama choose Mr. Moore to be their candidate again, for better or worse, the national party had better offer some help this time.

But I'm not expecting that.

I sense that this time, enough Alabama voters who may have been ticked off by "last time" come out and make the difference.

[Jazzhead]

Exactly, and prior to that, it will be solely up to the Republican primary voters in Alabama to choose the nominee.

I'm not going to patronize Alabama Republicans by stating the obvious,  but Alabama Republicans do have the choice whether to act selfishly.   Seeking vindication for the Dems' hardball tactics Is a selfish motivation, and so is wanting to stick it in the eye of mainstream Republicans who view Moore as a caricature, or who recognize full well that Moore provides Jones with his weakest opponent at a time when the NATION needs the Senate to stay GOP.   

There's a thin line that separates rebelliousness  and self-martyrdom.    I think Alabama Republicans are smart enough to recognize that Moore is on the wrong side of that line. 

[Smokin Joe]

I'm not going to patronize Alabama Republicans by stating the obvious,  but Alabama Republicans do have the choice whether to act selfishly.   Seeking vindication for the Dems' hardball tactics Is a selfish motivation, and so is wanting to stick it in the eye of mainstream Republicans who view Moore as a caricature, or who recognize full well that Moore provides Jones with his weakest opponent at a time when the NATION needs the Senate to stay GOP.   

There's a thin line that separates rebelliousness  and self-martyrdom.    I think Alabama Republicans are smart enough to recognize that Moore is on the wrong side of that line.

If Alabama Republicans do not serve the interests of Alabama Republicans, it is patently obvious that NO ONE ELSE WILL.

The Democrats won't.
The national GOP has failed to do so.

They are all off serving their own 'selfish' self-interests.

If Alabamans want a voice, it is up to Alabamans.

[Jazzhead]

If Alabamans want a voice, it is up to Alabamans.

Of course.   But that doesn't mean they have to make the same mistake twice.   Just how does Doug Jones provide a voice for Alabama Republicans or conservatives?

[Bigun]

Of course.   But that doesn't mean they have to make the same mistake twice.   Just how does Doug Jones provide a voice for Alabama Republicans or conservatives?

The ONLY mistake they made previously was in allowing the GOPe hucksters and their media accomplices to railroad them into abandoning a fine man at the 11th hour.

[txradioguy]

The ONLY mistake they made previously was in allowing the GOPe hucksters and their media accomplices to railroad them into abandoning a fine man at the 11th hour.

Exactly!

[txradioguy]

That's a false choice,  notwithstanding your slander of the Senate majority leader,  who is doing more to advance conservative principles than anyone else in Washington, including the President.    You are suggesting there are no good conservatives in Alabama other than proven loser and accused bigot and pedophile Moore.    That's a sad reflection on the state of Alabama.   

Mitch McConnell is only “conservative” in an election year. Same way McCain used to pretend to be a “Conservative” every six years in Arizona.

He did more to advance Obama’s policies than any Democrat. Not to mention his lies about Obamacare.

He’s no more Conservative or interested in Conservative principals than you are.

[Jazzhead]

He’s no more Conservative or interested in Conservative principals than you are.

What I'm interested in is conservative policies, and conservative judges.   This bullshit about "conservative principals" and six bits will get you a cup of coffee.   Go on and nominate Roy Moore and see him get trounced in one of the most conservative states in the nation.   Sure, you've stuck to your "principles".   But you get Doug Jones as Senator,  and how does that advance the cause of conservatism?

I'll say the same thing to you as I did to Bigun - don't be an idiot.   

[Cyber Liberty]

I said it back when, and wayyy up this thread:  It's up to Alabamans.

It's the height of arrogance to assume I, as a Desert Southwesterner, or a Northeasterner like @Jazzhead can pick their candidates for them.  Contrary to posts I've read, a Senator is one of two Senators of his/her State, not a Senator of the Nation.

It's up to the GOP of Alabama.

[kevindavis007]

I said it back when, and wayyy up this thread:  It's up to Alabamans.

It's the height of arrogance to assume I, as a Desert Southwesterner, or a Northeasterner like @Jazzhead can pick their candidates for them.  Contrary to posts I've read, a Senator is one of two Senators of his/her State, not a Senator of the Nation.

It's up to the GOP of Alabama.

So when the people of Kentucky nominates Mitch are you going to respect their decision as well?