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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #125 on: May 31, 2019, 01:43:36 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 01:35:12 pm
I said it back when, and wayyy up this thread:  It's up to Alabamans.

It's the height of arrogance to assume I, as a Desert Southwesterner, or a Northeasterner like @Jazzhead can pick their candidates for them.  Contrary to posts I've read, a Senator is one of two Senators of his/her State, not a Senator of the Nation.

It's up to the GOP of Alabama.

Of course.   But the GOP of Alabama nominated a loser last time around, and its mistake had consequences for conservatives nationwide.    I see no reason why I shouldn't point out that it would be foolish to repeat that mistake.   
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #126 on: May 31, 2019, 01:44:10 pm »
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So when the people of Kentucky nominates Mitch are you going to respect their decision as well?

Ayup.  I'm not particularly happy about it, but I respect the choice made by voters of Kentucky, as I do the voters in other states who elect Republicans.  Dittos for that idjit in Utah.  It's not my place to impose my will on them. 
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #127 on: May 31, 2019, 01:47:28 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 01:43:36 pm
Of course.   But the GOP of Alabama nominated a loser last time around, and its mistake had consequences for conservatives nationwide.    I see no reason why I shouldn't point out that it would be foolish to repeat that mistake.

Moore would have won that seat but for Rat dirty tricks timed right after the ballots were printed.  Would he win now?  I don't know.  I do know I don't like it when Rat dirty tricks succeed, but it doesn't follow I want Alabamans to prove the trick fails in the long run.  I really don't care who they nominate.
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #128 on: May 31, 2019, 01:49:47 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 01:43:36 pm
Of course.   But the GOP of Alabama nominated a loser last time around, and its mistake had consequences for conservatives nationwide.    I see no reason why I shouldn't point out that it would be foolish to repeat that mistake.

Did they?  Really?   Or.... did the leftist Christian-hating media and accusers create that loser scenario.... because they have a huge bullseye target painted on any and every strong, Christian candidate.   Just like they attempted to do with Kavanaugh.   Just like they succeeded in doing with Herman Cain.  It's a pattern.  And idiots keep falling for it.
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #129 on: May 31, 2019, 01:53:51 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 01:26:19 pm
What I'm interested in is conservative policies, and conservative judges.   This bullshit about "conservative principals" and six bits will get you a cup of coffee.

Spoken as a non-conservative. What under-girds your so-called 'conservative policies, and conservative judges' is necessarily Conservative principle, else they are not conservative. Conservatism IS adherence to Conservative principles. That is what it is. So your statement is contradictory.

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Go on and nominate Roy Moore and see him get trounced in one of the most conservative states in the nation.   Sure, you've stuck to your "principles".   But you get Doug Jones as Senator,  and how does that advance the cause of conservatism?

What's the difference? Tell me what makes the Republicans any better than the democrats? Not a damn thing. There are Conservatives, and then there are everybody else. The only bet in town is for Conservatism, if you want anything to change... So vote for the Conservative and let the chips fall where they may... If the Conservative loses, it is always worth the bet - as what we wind up with otherwise is one of McConnell's butt-monkeys or Pelosi's butt-monkeys... Which doesn't make one damn bit of difference.

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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #130 on: May 31, 2019, 01:59:19 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 01:49:47 pm
Did they?  Really?   Or.... did the leftist Christian-hating media and accusers create that loser scenario.... because they have a huge bullseye target painted on any and every strong, Christian candidate.   Just like they attempted to do with Kavanaugh.   Just like they succeeded in doing with Herman Cain.  It's a pattern.  And idiots keep falling for it.

Jones was the result of Rat dirty tricks.

I try to pick my battles in wars I have some control over.  It's not up to me who the Alabama GOP chooses to run for Senate. 

I have a battle right here in AZ to keep a seat in Republican hands.  2020 has a Special Election for McStain's old seat, and the current occupant has shown much difficulty winning state-wide elections.  Flake the Fake ensured his old seat went to the Rats and I don't want AZ to be represented in the Senate by two communists.

IOW...I have trouble enough without sticking my nose in Alabamans' business.
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #131 on: May 31, 2019, 02:02:31 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 01:44:10 pm
Ayup.  I'm not particularly happy about it, but I respect the choice made by voters of Kentucky, as I do the voters in other states who elect Republicans.  Dittos for that idjit in Utah.  It's not my place to impose my will on them.
The choice of Roy Moore as the Republican nominee led directly to the election of a DEMOCRAT. I hate partisan politics, but it's an unfortunate reality that the actions of people in states other than our own have an impact on our own lives.
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #132 on: May 31, 2019, 02:04:39 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on May 31, 2019, 02:02:31 pm
The choice of Roy Moore as the Republican nominee led directly to the election of a DEMOCRAT. I hate partisan politics, but it's an unfortunate reality that the actions of people in states other than our own have an impact on our own lives.

It does not follow I should have a voice in who other states choose to send to the Senate.
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #133 on: May 31, 2019, 02:10:15 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on May 31, 2019, 02:02:31 pm
The choice of Roy Moore as the Republican nominee led directly to the election of a DEMOCRAT.

Then we must endeavor to only nominate pussified milquetoast quasi-liberal republicans, because every hard-core Conservative is given the same treatment as Moore. Then we'll win  *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #134 on: May 31, 2019, 02:13:12 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 01:59:19 pm
Jones was the result of Rat dirty tricks.

I try to pick my battles in wars I have some control over.  It's not up to me who the Alabama GOP chooses to run for Senate. 

I have a battle right here in AZ to keep a seat in Republican hands.  2020 has a Special Election for McStain's old seat, and the current occupant has shown much difficulty winning state-wide elections.  Flake the Fake ensured his old seat went to the Rats and I don't want AZ to be represented in the Senate by two communists.

IOW...I have trouble enough without sticking my nose in Alabamans' business.

Jones?  Who dat?

I hate to break it to ya, but we stick our collective noses in everyone's business right here....

on a daily basis.  It's how we roll.    :laugh:
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #135 on: May 31, 2019, 02:15:06 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 02:10:15 pm
Then we must endeavor to only nominate pussified milquetoast quasi-liberal republicans, because every hard-core Conservative is given the same treatment as Moore. Then we'll win  *****rollingeyes*****

Right.  We must nominate RINOs every single time.  Since... it has worked so well in the past.  (ditto on rollingeyes)
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #136 on: May 31, 2019, 02:17:53 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on May 31, 2019, 01:26:19 pm
What I'm interested in is conservative policies, and conservative judges.   This bullshit about "conservative principals" and six bits will get you a cup of coffee.   Go on and nominate Roy Moore and see him get trounced in one of the most conservative states in the nation.   Sure, you've stuck to your "principles".   But you get Doug Jones as Senator,  and how does that advance the cause of conservatism?

I'll say the same thing to you as I did to Bigun - don't be an idiot.

An idiot...is someone who is pro open borders...pro abortion...anti 2nd Amendment anti Christian and supports the agenda of the gay mafia while claiming to want Conservative Judges and claims to believe in Conservative “principals”.

I’m definitely not  an idiot because I will never be a Liberal like you.
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #137 on: May 31, 2019, 02:36:31 pm »
There’s always a knee-jerk response, after an unexpected result, that chicanery must have been the reason for it. More was not popular with establishment types. It was the same, with Trump, in the election one year before. Nevertheless, the voters came out in a 2-1 margin for Trump, because they understood the danger of a Clinton presidency. 

The special election brought unprecedented nationwide coverage. It’s not like the average voter was not aware of the importance of the seat held. Still, they stayed home. Moore didn’t lose, due to cheating. He lost, because he was a uninspiring candidate. Trump would not even cross the line into the state. He campaigned in Pensacola, at the last minute. Now, he has urged Alabama voters to select someone else. Has the president become establishment or is Moore just a bad choice?
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #138 on: May 31, 2019, 02:59:48 pm »
Quote from: edpc on May 31, 2019, 02:36:31 pm
There’s always a knee-jerk response, after an unexpected result, that chicanery must have been the reason for it. More was not popular with establishment types. It was the same, with Trump, in the election one year before. Nevertheless, the voters came out in a 2-1 margin for Trump, because they understood the danger of a Clinton presidency. 

Exactly.   And that was made crystal clear even right here on TBR.

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The special election brought unprecedented nationwide coverage. It’s not like the average voter was not aware of the importance of the seat held. Still, they stayed home. Moore didn’t lose, due to cheating. He lost, because he was a uninspiring candidate. Trump would not even cross the line into the state. He campaigned in Pensacola, at the last minute. Now, he has urged Alabama voters to select someone else. Has the president become establishment or is Moore just a bad choice?

I think he lost mostly because he was successfully Herman Cained (slimed) by the leftists.  And for the life of me, I can't understand how anyone, even GOP establishment types, could applaud that ssdd BS .... since it results in the leftists winning and the GOP losing.


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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #139 on: May 31, 2019, 03:27:02 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on May 31, 2019, 01:53:51 pm
Spoken as a non-conservative. What under-girds your so-called 'conservative policies, and conservative judges' is necessarily Conservative principle, else they are not conservative. Conservatism IS adherence to Conservative principles. That is what it is. So your statement is contradictory.

I subscribe to the Buckley rule, as @Mesaclone mentioned.   I'll vote for the most conservative who can win.  And that's not the lawless Roy Moore, who may be only an accused pedophile but is a proven loser.         

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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #140 on: May 31, 2019, 03:29:20 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on May 31, 2019, 02:02:31 pm
The choice of Roy Moore as the Republican nominee led directly to the election of a DEMOCRAT. I hate partisan politics, but it's an unfortunate reality that the actions of people in states other than our own have an impact on our own lives.

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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #141 on: May 31, 2019, 03:35:45 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 02:13:12 pm
Jones?  Who dat?

I hate to break it to ya, but we stick our collective noses in everyone's business right here....

on a daily basis. It's how we roll.    :laugh:

 :laugh: :beer:

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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #142 on: May 31, 2019, 04:01:23 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 02:59:48 pm
I think he lost mostly because he was successfully Herman Cained (slimed) by the leftists.  And for the life of me, I can't understand how anyone, even GOP establishment types, could applaud that ssdd BS .... since it results in the leftists winning and the GOP losing.


OK - back to my question. Does that now mean Trump is among the establishment types, since he’s kneecapping Moore, ahead of the primary?
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #143 on: May 31, 2019, 04:14:47 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on May 30, 2019, 01:36:56 pm
Nah. He was ahead by 40 points before the smear campaign began. He was literally walking away with it.

When the slime started falling though, he didn't do much to counter it and it eventually got him.

I'm not sure though the Left can use that tactic this time around. Their accusers have been discredited, and I think this time most people would be like 'Geez, not this sh** again!'
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #144 on: May 31, 2019, 04:19:59 pm »
Quote from: edpc on May 31, 2019, 04:01:23 pm

OK - back to my question. Does that now mean Trump is among the establishment types, since he’s kneecapping Moore, ahead of the primary?

Trump is one of those "establishment" types who wants the Senate to continue confirming conservative judges.    Taking back the Alabama seat is crucial to that goal.   Moore's lost to Jones before, and he will lose again.  Surely there are other acceptable conservatives in Alabama who don't come festooned with Moore's lawlessness and other baggage.   
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #145 on: May 31, 2019, 04:22:17 pm »
Quote from: edpc on May 31, 2019, 04:01:23 pm

OK - back to my question. Does that now mean Trump is among the establishment types, since he’s kneecapping Moore, ahead of the primary?

Lol!  Touché.   :laugh:
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #146 on: May 31, 2019, 04:29:08 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 03:35:45 pm
:laugh: :beer:

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Good for you.  I could use a beer or two right about now.  It's raining outside (so no gardening)....I am therefore forced to do house cleaning (yuck).... and it always puts me in a wacky mood whenever I am forced to do something I loathe...lolol.
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #147 on: May 31, 2019, 04:40:43 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 04:29:08 pm
Good for you.  I could use a beer or two right about now.  It's raining outside (so no gardening)....I am therefore forced to do house cleaning (yuck).... and it always puts me in a wacky mood whenever I am forced to do something I loathe...lolol.

I need to get into it a bit earlier than expected.  My Phoenix friend is bringing us a new kitteh today.  Oh well...ten was never enough anyway. 

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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #148 on: May 31, 2019, 04:51:01 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 31, 2019, 04:22:17 pm
Lol!  Touché.   :laugh:


Well, honestly, it was a serious question, not a ‘gotcha.’ Whatever you think of the tactics against Moore, or their origins, his response to it was exceptionally poor. In the case of Trump, I think his motivations are geared more towards the optics. If he is on the short end of the situation, it is always someone else’s fault, like the ‘rigged system’ or ‘enemy of the people’ media types. Moore, on the other hand, is a loser, in his view. Also, I believe Trump holds people like Moore in contempt. The whole horse riding, hat wearing, pistol waving image makes him an ass-backwards yokel. His overall view of southerners should have been apparent, in this year’s CPAC speech.
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Re: Trump Jr. blasts reported Roy Moore Senate bid: 'It's time to ride off into the sunset'
« Reply #149 on: May 31, 2019, 04:53:17 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 31, 2019, 04:40:43 pm
I need to get into it a bit earlier than expected.  My Phoenix friend is bringing us a new kitteh today.  Oh well...ten was never enough anyway. 

 ***evilkitty

Oh wow.  I have two and that's one too many... especially since one's a male and a major PITA.  A lovable PITA, that is. 
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