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Well, honestly, it was a serious question, not a ‘gotcha.’ Whatever you think of the tactics against Moore, or their origins, his response to it was exceptionally poor. In the case of Trump, I think his motivations are geared more towards the optics. If he is on the short end of the situation, it is always someone else’s fault, like the ‘rigged system’ or ‘enemy of the people’ media types. Moore, on the other hand, is a loser, in his view. Also, I believe Trump holds people like Moore in contempt. The whole horse riding, hat wearing, pistol waving image makes him an ass-backwards yokel. His overall view of southerners should have been apparent, in this year’s CPAC speech.

Trump is a populist, so yeah... he will sway with the perceived (his perception) will of most of his base.  But again, that goes right back to the rampant success that the leftist media had re: turning potential supporters and voters against Moore.  The media campaign worked... only too well.

As for Trump holding Moore in contempt, I find it ironic that he apparently doesn't 'relate' to Moore's being demonized and attacked by the left.  Odd that he doesn't feel he has that in common with Moore... but then, Trump's ego would, I suppose, prevent him from sympathizing with someone 'else' getting the treatment.   As for Trump having a dim view of Southerners ... most of his base happens to be in the South.  As a New Yawker, he should be more considerate and aware of that fact.  Oh well...

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When the slime started falling though, he didn't do much to counter it and it eventually got him.

I'm not sure though the Left can use that tactic this time around. Their accusers have been discredited, and I think this time most people would be like 'Geez, not this sh** again!'

I don't think that's true - I think they took all the air out of him - He got *NO* airtime to retaliate. He was effectively stifled, unless you actually were paying attention and trying to hear his side of things by seeking it out... Even the GOP and talking heads were against him... He goes onto Hannity for an obvious 'Hannitizing'... a nice softball interview to give him a chance to say his piece... But that ain't what happened - I do not think he was ready to get roasted by Hannity, and I do not think he would have gone on if he'd have seen that coming.

And it doesn't matter about the left (you really have to get over the whole left/right thing - Other than Conservatives, it is a monolithic same-damn-thing)... Sure the left will go after him - But his enemy is the so-called 'right', like Tumpy Jr in this OP. His own party will try to cut his throat, which is exactly the thing that wrecked him last time, not the overtures of the Left.
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I don't think that's true - I think they took all the air out of him - He got *NO* airtime to retaliate. He was effectively stifled, unless you actually were paying attention and trying to hear his side of things by seeking it out... Even the GOP and talking heads were against him... He goes onto Hannity for an obvious 'Hannitizing'... a nice softball interview to give him a chance to say his piece... But that ain't what happened - I do not think he was ready to get roasted by Hannity, and I do not think he would have gone on if he'd have seen that coming.

And it doesn't matter about the left (you really have to get over the whole left/right thing - Other than Conservatives, it is a monolithic same-damn-thing)... Sure the left will go after him - But his enemy is the so-called 'right', like Tumpy Jr in this OP. His own party will try to cut his throat, which is exactly the thing that wrecked him last time, not the overtures of the Left.

Which is one reason why the GOP is called the stupid party.   They eat their own, while the rats march in lock-step every time.  Unity is key (united we stand, divided we fall).  And the GOP ain't got it.
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Which is one reason why the GOP is called the stupid party.   They eat their own, while the rats march in lock-step every time. Unity is key (united we stand, divided we fall).  And the GOP ain't got it.

And likewise many of the the inhabitants of this thread.

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And likewise many of the the inhabitants of this thread.

Pick a Moore thread...any Moore thread. rrthree
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And likewise many of the the inhabitants of this thread.

True dat.  Inhabitants that would rather see a damned DemocRat in that Senate seat than Moore.  Which I really don't get.... or agree with.

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True dat.  Inhabitants that would rather see a damned DemocRat in that Senate seat than Moore.  Which I really don't get.... or agree with.

That's right. Their abhorrence of us yokels is noted.

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That's right. Their abhorrence of us yokels is noted.

Lol.  Yokels that have more common sense (enough to value unity) and more loyalty than the pretenders do.
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Which is one reason why the GOP is called the stupid party.   They eat their own, while the rats march in lock-step every time.  Unity is key (united we stand, divided we fall).  And the GOP ain't got it.


I could swear I’ve seen a few threads, discussing their disarray and splintering over impeachment.   :shrug:
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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I could swear I’ve seen a few threads, discussing their disarray and splintering over impeachment.   :shrug:

Maybe ....a few.   :whistle:
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I don't think that's true - I think they took all the air out of him - He got *NO* airtime to retaliate. He was effectively stifled, unless you actually were paying attention and trying to hear his side of things by seeking it out... Even the GOP and talking heads were against him... He goes onto Hannity for an obvious 'Hannitizing'... a nice softball interview to give him a chance to say his piece... But that ain't what happened - I do not think he was ready to get roasted by Hannity, and I do not think he would have gone on if he'd have seen that coming.

And it doesn't matter about the left (you really have to get over the whole left/right thing - Other than Conservatives, it is a monolithic same-damn-thing)... Sure the left will go after him - But his enemy is the so-called 'right', like Tumpy Jr in this OP. His own party will try to cut his throat, which is exactly the thing that wrecked him last time, not the overtures of the Left.

I'm thinking more within the local news apparatus. I just didn't see any real organization or aggressivness trying to counter in the local media markets.

I will grant he was severely hobbled by Cocaine Mitch withdrawing funds, so maybe he was truly hamstrung.

Let's hope if he runs again he anticipates this and is prepared for it.
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I could swear I’ve seen a few threads, discussing their disarray and splintering over impeachment.   :shrug:

I don't think they're splintered over Impeachment, but over whether they want to say they want it.
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Yes, the National GOP should support him as the State GOP did, then, if he fails, they can talk. I'd say this is also with the assumption that these shadier accusations are false.  I assume they are false.

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True dat.  Inhabitants that would rather see a damned DemocRat in that Senate seat than Moore.  Which I really don't get.... or agree with.

That's not the choice.   If the Alabama GOP nominates Moore, then Doug Jones likely retains his seat.   The way to avoid that result is to tell Moore that it's time to saddle up his palomino and ride off.   
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That's right. Their abhorrence of us yokels is noted.

Your virtue-signaling is boring.     
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Your virtue-signaling is boring.   

Not half as much as you BS!
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Your virtue-signaling is boring.   

You misunderstand, @Jazzhead.  Virtue signaling is done by people who lack virtue in order to make them appear to have virtue. 

@roamer_1 does not fall into that category.

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You misunderstand, @Jazzhead.  Virtue signaling is done by people who lack virtue in order to make them appear to have virtue. 

@roamer_1 does not fall into that category.

Thank you!  @roamer_1 has never engaged in virtue signaling in his life. Unlike many others here.
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Did they?  Really?   Or.... did the leftist Christian-hating media and accusers create that loser scenario.... because they have a huge bullseye target painted on any and every strong, Christian candidate.   Just like they attempted to do with Kavanaugh.   Just like they succeeded in doing with Herman Cain.  It's a pattern.  And idiots keep falling for it.
It goes back past Clarence Thomas, actually. Same gambit, only the Media are even less fair (Dem biased) than they were then.
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It goes back past Clarence Thomas, actually. Same gambit, only the Media are even less fair (Dem biased) than they were then.

Exactly right and it's never going to stop for so long as it works for them.
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You misunderstand, @Jazzhead.  Virtue signaling is done by people who lack virtue in order to make them appear to have virtue. 

@roamer_1 does not fall into that category.

 :thumbsup:
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It goes back past Clarence Thomas, actually. Same gambit, only the Media are even less fair (Dem biased) than they were then.

Spot on.
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Your virtue-signaling is boring.   

Look who's talking.  *****rollingeyes*****
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The choice of Roy Moore as the Republican nominee led directly to the election of a DEMOCRAT. I hate partisan politics, but it's an unfortunate reality that the actions of people in states other than our own have an impact on our own lives.
The choice of Moore only meant that the Country Club and the Liberals joined hands to keep someone out who just might give 'em all Hell. If you're a fan of the shenanigans the GOP Congress has pulled in the first two years of the Trump Presidency, mainly refusing to pass the legislation needed for him to implement policy (until they lost the House and had a real excuse), then keep hitting the same button.
If you really want to drain the swamp, you need people who don't mind telling where the mud is.

As for it being unfortunate that people in other states influence our politics, whichever state we're in, well, yes, it is.

From faux social media campaigns to well funded astroturf organizations that spring up like mushrooms and are toxic to local policy, it is a real blight on the electoral process.

Considering that is EXACTLY the sort of crap that kept Moore out last time, along with the concerted efforts of the homomedia who hated him since he upheld the Alabama Constitution on the issue of same sex 'marriage', I'd think any Conservative would be happy to see him get another shot at office, especially since the air has been cleared.

YMMV.
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