Kevin McCarthy’s fate on the line, House conservatives warn speaker’s election could take days

[roamer_1]

This is the liberals wet dream. I guess y’all can celebrate together.

McCarthy needs to go. Not long ago, failed leadership stepped down on their own. Now it seems, they must be forced out. 

If that is what's happening, then 'Oh, Happy day!'

[roamer_1]

The speaker does not have to be a member of the house... 

Yeah, alright... but likely will be...

[Mesaclone]

McCarthy needs to go. Not long ago, failed leadership stepped down on their own. Now it seems, they must be forced out. 

If that is what's happening, then 'Oh, Happy day!'

More than 200 House Republicans WANT him as Speaker…why should the 19 override 200+ of their peers.

You idiots are going to either put Hakeem Jeffries in the Speakership or push the moderates to align with Dems for some RINO Speaker…maybe a Liz Cheney or an Adam Kinzinger. How F’ing moronic is that?

[roamer_1]

More than 200 House Republicans WANT him as Speaker…why should the 19 override 200+ of their peers.

Because that's how voting works. Don't blame me if he can't get the votes. 
(I say LMAO) 

You idiots are going to either put Hakeem Jeffries in the Speakership or push the moderates to align with Dems for some RINO Speaker…maybe a Liz Cheney or an Adam Kinzinger. How F’ing moronic is that?

That's the status quo right now. And that's a good reason to get in the way.
Bear in mind, a few concessions would have made all the difference. McCarthy waived off the conservatives and gave them nothing. Like you, he expected them to kiss the ring.

Turns out, that ain't happening. Which is beautiful.

[Mesaclone]

Well that's pretty hysterical. And I see that quite the other way around - This is probably the most conservative thing I have seen in years.

By the way, which liberals are you speaking of? The democrat ones or the Republican ones? Because less the facade of partisanship, this congress just gave the liberals everything they wished for in the next year -  And these are the same people expecting to ascend to leadership.... How is that advancing conservatism?

If your argument is that McCarthy is as liberal as Pelosi…you should go get an Alzheimer’s check. McCarthy has already designated strong conservatives to key committees…like Jordan as chair of the Judiciary. What these “useful idiots” are doing blocks any hope of holding anyone on the Left accountable…and it does not lead to putting a stronger Conservative in the Speakership.

All this does is make the country perceive Conservatives as incompetent morons. It achieves nothing else.

[roamer_1]

If your argument is that McCarthy is as liberal as Pelosi…you should go get an Alzheimer’s check.

Comparison supposes anything to the right of Pelosi is better... Even if it is just by a couple ticks. That ain't ever been enough... and its the same old saw as always: We're a little bit better than Democrats.

He's a RINO fully in step with MurderTurdle and the rest of the RINO leadership.
Don't expect me to cry about it.

I will laugh my ass off if he has to move back out of the speaker's office.

McCarthy has already designated strong conservatives to key committees…like Jordan as chair of the Judiciary. What these “useful idiots” blocks any hope of holding anyone on the Left accountable…and it does not lead to putting a stronger Conservative in the Speakership.

NO ONE will be held accountable under McCarthy - And you can take that to the bank.

All this does is make the country perceive Conservatives as incompetent morons.

Except to other conservatives... And that is all that matters.

[catfish1957]

More than 200 House Republicans WANT him as Speaker…why should the 19 override 200+ of their peers.

You idiots are going to either put Hakeem Jeffries in the Speakership or push the moderates to align with Dems for some RINO Speaker…maybe a Liz Cheney or an Adam Kinzinger. How F’ing moronic is that?

God, I sure hope I am never in a fox hole in battle with you.  You'll be the first hositing the white flag.

Just because you don't mind settling for a RINO dim capitulating POS, might mean the rest of us want better for our country.  Your plan helps perpetuate the Biden agenda.  Guess what?  Expect McConnell tactics even though we'll have the majority. 

Both McC's fold like cheap tents when confronted by political opponents in the other aisle....... Is that your intent?

Addtionally:

(1) Kinzinger and Cheney as Speaker?  Here's a little news flash...  They lost their bids for re-election for the House.  Their legislative careers are basically over.

(2) Quorum rules and understanding of backroom or floor in this case  of voting patterns and commitments make the chance of Jeffy becoming Speaker near nil.

So before throwing out implausible scenarios and calling us idiots, you might want to get a bright mirror first.

[catfish1957]

If your argument is that McCarthy is as liberal as Pelosi…you should go get an Alzheimer’s check. McCarthy has already designated strong conservatives to key committees…like Jordan as chair of the Judiciary. What these “useful idiots” are doing blocks any hope of holding anyone on the Left accountable…and it does not lead to putting a stronger Conservative in the Speakership.

All this does is make the country perceive Conservatives as incompetent morons. It achieves nothing else.

Wow, can I quote you that you are calling McCarthy a "Conservative"?

And if you don't mind me adding....
Gaetz had a presser yesterday, and simply stated that all McCarthy had to do, to get the votes for endorsement for speaker was:

1. Agree to term limits vote on the House Floor
2. Bring up Balanced Budget provisons up from committe for review, and conferencing.
3. Bring up Border Protection Plan developed by the Texas Delegate for floor vote.

Please let me know exactly which of those 3 that you find unacceptable or unreasonable.....

[catfish1957]

Except to other conservatives... And that is all that matters.

Like we ever get any fair coverage from MSM anyway. I really don't give a damn what the socialist think of me

[roamer_1]

Like we ever get any fair coverage from MSM anyway. I really don't give a damn what the socialist think of me

TRUTH.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Maybe it would take less time if Kevin McCarthy accepted reality.

Kevin does not have a Divine Right to coronate himself to be House Speaker.

[Hoodat]

The speaker does not have to be a member of the house... 

That is the key to the whole shebang.  We need an outsider who has not fallen into the trap of corruption that pollutes everything inside the Beltway, and who frankly does not give a damn about pulling the plug on all of DC's excesses.  We need the cheapest bastard we can find.

[Hoodat]

Because less the facade of partisanship, this congress just gave the liberals everything they wished for in the next year -  And these are the same people expecting to ascend to leadership.... How is that advancing conservatism?

It should be painfully clear by now that there are members here who are just as threatened by Conservatism as are the Democrats.  They advocate strongly for the status quo, championing the Swamp as they forever declare fealty to the greatest Swamp supporter of all.

[catfish1957]

That is the key to the whole shebang.  We need an outsider who has not fallen into the trap of corruption that pollutes everything inside the Beltway, and who frankly does not give a damn about pulling the plug on all of DC's excesses.  We need the cheapest bastard we can find.

Mike Rowe for Speaker.....

(Now that's a Dirty Job)

[Hoodat]

More than 200 House Republicans WANT him as Speaker…why should the 19 override 200+ of their peers.

That's your argument?  Of course the Swamp wants him as Speaker.  And you're OK with siding with the Swamp.  Nice.

You idiots are going to either put Hakeem Jeffries in the Speakership or push the moderates to align with Dems for some RINO Speaker…maybe a Liz Cheney or an Adam Kinzinger. How F’ing moronic is that?

Cheney and Kinzinger are no longer in the House, thanks to those of us who actually do oppose the Swamp.  And if the GOP allows Jeffries to become Speaker, then they don't deserve power.

[roamer_1]

It should be painfully clear by now that there are members here who are just as threatened by Conservatism as are the Democrats.  They advocate strongly for the status quo, championing the Swamp as they forever declare fealty to the greatest Swamp supporter of all.

It seems they are forever on the other side from me. Here I am, ready to fight, and they want a passive *yea*... I will never get their sense... 

[roamer_1]

Mike Rowe for Speaker.....

(Now that's a Dirty Job)

 

[Hoodat]

If your argument is that McCarthy is as liberal as Pelosi…you should go get an Alzheimer’s check. McCarthy has already designated strong conservatives to key committees…like Jordan as chair of the Judiciary. What these “useful idiots” are doing blocks any hope of holding anyone on the Left accountable…and it does not lead to putting a stronger Conservative in the Speakership.

All this does is make the country perceive Conservatives as incompetent morons. It achieves nothing else.

Jordan is going to chair the Judiciary Committee either way.  But that pales in comparison to the budget which is where real power lies.

I want someone who is going to offer up a single spending resolution for each department as our laws dictate instead of stuffing everything into one bill and giving members fifteen minutes to vote up or down.  I want someone who is not willing to spend money we don't have.  I want someone who is not too much of a coward to say 'Hell No!' to every single thing the Democrats want.

Kevin McCarthy is not that guy.

[Free Vulcan]

Mike Rowe for Speaker.....

(Now that's a Dirty Job)

Have a feeling that's too dirty even for Mike. 

[Hoodat]

Bear in mind, a few concessions would have made all the difference. McCarthy waived off the conservatives and gave them nothing. Like you, he expected them to kiss the ring.

Yep.  Funny how the GOP leadership has no problem making massive concessions to Democrats.  But when it comes to Conservatives, they are all 'scorched earth'.

[roamer_1]

Yep.  Funny how the GOP leadership has no problem making massive concessions to Democrats.  But when it comes to Conservatives, they are all 'scorched earth'.

And that is the bald truth of it.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

More than 200 House Republicans WANT him as Speaker…why should the 19 override 200+ of their peers.

You idiots are going to either put Hakeem Jeffries in the Speakership or push the moderates to align with Dems for some RINO Speaker…maybe a Liz Cheney or an Adam Kinzinger. How F’ing moronic is that?

There's a certain faction of conservatives who believe there is no real difference between the GOP and Democrats, and so would really care if it is Jeffries or McCarthy. Obviously, they're perfectly entitled to believe that, but if they truly believe there isn't any difference, then they should just form their own party and see how far they can get.

Getting to the point where McCarthy should consider playing hardball, and force Gaetz and his allies to make a choice.

[Hoodat]

If your argument is that McCarthy is as liberal as Pelosi…you should go get an Alzheimer’s check.

Already saw that with Boehner and Ryan, the last two guys that McCarthy served under.  When it came to spending, Ryan turned out to be more liberal than Pelosi.  He was the one who suspended the debt ceiling, allowing Obama to spend money that hadn't even been appropriated by Congress.  And at budget time, he gave the Democrats everything they asked for, plus even more on top of that.

And McCarthy and Scalise were standing right at his side every step of the way.

[Hoodat]

Wow, can I quote you that you are calling McCarthy a "Conservative"?

And if you don't mind me adding....
Gaetz had a presser yesterday, and simply stated that all McCarthy had to do, to get the votes for endorsement for speaker was:

1. Agree to term limits vote on the House Floor
2. Bring up Balanced Budget provisons up from committe for review, and conferencing.
3. Bring up Border Protection Plan developed by the Texas Delegate for floor vote.

Please let me know exactly which of those 3 that you find unacceptable or unreasonable.....

The second one is the key.  Get that through, and you won't need 1 and 3.  Reps and Senators won't have the power of the printing press to make careers of their jobs, and ending free stuff to illegals will remove the incentive to cross the border.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

@Maj. Bill Martin

Gaetz had a presser, and simply stated that all McCarthy had to do, to get their endorsement for speaker was:

1. Agree to term limits vote on the House Floor
2. Bring up Balanced Budget provisons up from committe for review, and conferencing.
3. Bring up Border Protection Plan developed by the Texas Delegate for floor vote.

Please let me know exactly which of those 3 that you find unacceptable or unreasonable.....

Under the same condtions and terms, I wouldn't vote for this dim capitulating RINO either

I find the first two to be unreasonable.  Don't know enough about the third.

The first two really piss me off because they are the kind of performative crap we usually see from the left.   Exactly what is Gaetz trying to accomplish with those first two?  What actual, concrete results does he expect to happen if he gets his vote?

I'll tell you -- literally the only thing that accomplishes is letting him go back to his constituents and say "Hey, I got a vote on term limits and a balanced budget", so he can increase his popularity with those supporters.  His motive is as purely political and non-substantive as it gets.