Trump calls for 'complete shutdown' on Muslims entering US

[Relic]

Dam-nit  sink can't you just say you will pray for his recovery...




Fisherman...lots of prayer warriors here..and I do believe in the power of prayer....I will keep you in mine.

No he can't. He's gone off the rails.

[sinkspur]

Dam-nit  sink can't you just say you will pray for his recovery...




Fisherman...lots of prayer warriors here..and I do believe in the power of prayer....I will keep you in mine.

I would have if he hadn't injected that little piece I quoted. Why do that?

[DCPatriot]

No he can't. He's gone off the rails.

Come on.  Is that necessary?  Please put a little context into his remark.   

[Sanguine]

Hey....even Reagan's last words on the operating table before they knocked him out were "I hope you're all Republicans".

Now, darnit, EC, I didn't see that until you quoted it!  And, I was good with that.

[mystery-ak]

Edited..

[Relic]

Come on.  Is that necessary?  Please put a little context into his remark.   

Yep, it is necessary. That poster has been blasting away, often irrationally, at anyone who is pro Trump. Refugee immigration seems to be high on his/her list too.

To offer the condescending remark about Fishrrman's misguided soul, especially given Fishrrman's current situation is unacceptable.

I've watched sink go off the rails with amusement, but he/she is becoming malignant.

[alicewonders]

You're in my prayers Fishrrman!  I think you're a pretty smart guy myself.   

[Relic]

Edited..

I appreciate how difficult your job is. But, I am simply calling a spade a spade. I have no emotional investment in this. I don't own or moderate this website. I'm just an observer. And I observe that you have a disruptive force on your website. I'm not an expert, but I don't think that's going to help you if the disruption continues.

[musiclady]

Prayers for you Fishrrman, that God will give you complete recovery.

And you are highly intelligent.  I pay close attention to whatever you post because there is much wisdom in your words.

[sinkspur]

I appreciate how difficult your job is. But, I am simply calling a spade a spade. I have no emotional investment in this. I don't own or moderate this website. I'm just an observer. And I observe that you have a disruptive force on your website. I'm not an expert, but I don't think that's going to help you if the disruption continues.

You're the one who resorted to profanity, not me.

[Fishrrman]

musiclady wrote above:
"I pay close attention to whatever you post because there is much wisdom in your words."

Ah, thanks (and to everyone else for their thoughts).

But the "getting of wisdom" can work like standing in the sun for a while.
You don't have to be all that smart (or wise) to begin with, you just have to stand there.
Works even on us dumb guys!

But just as we must endeavour to protect our individual selves from the dangers of the world that would harm us, so must we protect the greater "body" at large.

It's not wrong to do so.
Sometimes it requires difficult, vexing choices.
Choices that are personal as well as political.

If we are to err, it must be on the side of our own safety.
And our nation's...

[Relic]

You're the one who resorted to profanity, not me.

An abbreviation, that conveys a title you've earned. Often those types of abbreviations are found acceptable. I guess you are seen as worthy of some kind of protection. Much in the way a mother will favor a severely damaged child.

It's entertaining to me that you should post a:

"You started it, nyah, nyah"

Type of reply. It fits with what you've revealed yourself to be.

[DCPatriot]

musiclady wrote above:
"I pay close attention to whatever you post because there is much wisdom in your words."

Ah, thanks (and to everyone else for their thoughts).

But the "getting of wisdom" can work like standing in the sun for a while.
You don't have to be all that smart (or wise) to begin with, you just have to stand there.
Works even on us dumb guys!

But just as we must endeavour to protect our individual selves from the dangers of the world that would harm us, so must we protect the greater "body" at large.

It's not wrong to do so.
Sometimes it requires difficult, vexing choices.
Choices that are personal as well as political.

If we are to err, it must be on the side of our own safety.
And our nation's...

 

[sinkspur]

An abbreviation, that conveys a title you've earned. Often those types of abbreviations are found acceptable. I guess you are seen as worthy of some kind of protection. Much in the way a mother will favor a severely damaged child.

It's entertaining to me that you should post a:

"You started it, nyah, nyah"

Type of reply. It fits with what you've revealed yourself to be.

You are one nasty piece of work, and I know nasty pieces of work.

[Relic]

You are one nasty piece of work, and I know nasty pieces of work.

If anyone knows nasty pieces of work, it's your mother. 

[Carling]

I'm putting you on ignore.  You've become a parody, a bitter joke, with a childish vendetta against me.

I like wine, but I put a cork in the bottle during the day.

Another liberal tactic.  Ignoring those who expose the flaws in their logic.

I'm the parody?  You're literally posting photos of clowns in this thread, and are also mocking a man who just poured his heart out in this thread.

[Carling]

Thoughts are with you Fish.  Get well!

[aligncare]

Hey, Fish! That post deserves it's own board. Really, man you touched on some heavy stuff. Islam is making a move and we are mired–frozen–in PC. This looks like a bad movie I don't want to see the end of.

[flowers]

I don't have the intellectual depth of most posters here.

My view of the world is that of the frog or turtle gazing upward out of the bog, trying to make sense through the haze.

But this post is a personal one.

I'm in the hosptial today, recovering from surgery on Monday to remove a tumor from the right middle lobe of my lungs. I thought it was going to be a full lobectomy (removal of entire lobe) but the surgeon (using one of the remarkable da Vinci surgical robot machines) decided instead to do a "wedge resection", removing only the bad area and leaving the remainder of the lobe in place.

The pathologist report isn't back yet, but the surgeon said it looked to be something called a "carcinoid" -- a slow-growing tumor rather than an agressive cancer. Hopefully, I won't need chemo and this will be an "excise it and get on with life".

I first found out about this in 2011, after a bout with atrial fibrillation put me into the hosptial for one night. During the course of that stay I had a chest xray (first in MANY years), and they said, "you have another problem you need to know about". A tumor in my lungs.

It wasn't large when first discovered, about 8-9mm in diameter. Primary care guy said, "we'll keep an eye on it."
Over the next few years, it increased in size but very, very slightly. Watchful waiting.
Earlier this year, I had a CT scan and the size increased more significantly, a millimeter or two. Primary care doc said, "see a pulmonologist".

Pulmonologst sent me to the local hospital's thorasic surgeon, who recommended a lobectomy. By the way, that surgeon IS NOT the one who did the procedure, and I'll explain why later.

I lived with the "bad cells" in me for four years. Possibly cancer -- well, it was.

Told you that to tell you this next:

The muslims coming here -- they are to the body of The West as unknown and possibly cancerous cells are to our individual bodies.
Some might be harmless.
Some might be extradorinary dangerous, perhaps bringing into us the loss of our own bodies, lives, and civilizations.

But shouldn't the question be raised:
Don't ALL cells have a basic "right to life"??
Don't ALL cells have the right to exist within our bodies??
This is what the multiculturalists, the left, would want us to believe.

Of course not.
We as individuals recognize the danger of possible cancer cells within ourselves.
Even if not outwardly displaying characteristics of malignancy, the potential exists within each and every pre-cancerous cell and there is next-to-no way to tell which are harmless and which are dangerous.
Aside:
Perhaps this is why during an excission of such cells, the surgeon goes farther and removes lymph nodes that drain the cells, etc.

The only way to be sure of staving off cancer is to remove ALL of the "bad cells".
We don't discriminate, we excise.

This is how we protect ourselves.
This is how we protect and preserve our most basic civilization, our culture, our heritage, our race. I make no apologies for using such words.

No, not all cells have "the right" to occupy my body.
No, not all people of all nations have the right to occupy or enter my nation's "body".

Seems logical to me.
Then again, I'm just the turtle looking up from the mud.

After Monday's surgery, I stand a chance to be here a while longer.

But like the late-night commercials say, "wait, there's more!"

Back when the pulmonologist sent me to the first surgeon, i was put off.
The guy was an Iranian. And a muslim.
I listened politely, and at the end of his explanation I excused myself and said I'd be in contact with his office.

I didn't contact them further.
Quite frankly, I did not want a muslim operating on me.

Now I guess you'll call that bigoted, or irrational, or whatever.
I just didn't want it. I had no trust.
But even if the muslim surgeon did the job, I was not going to owe my life to a muslim.

On this forum, we debate behind the safety of our computers, about a religious ideology that threatens to devour us all.
With me, it got personal.

My first thought was, I'd just as soon face cancer as that.
So I went looking for another surgeon, and found one.
He did what seems to be a good job, and hopefully I get to go home tomorrow.

And that's pretty much the rest of the story.

In closing:
Wouldn't it be a wonderful world if we didn't face the evil of islam?
Wouldn't it be easy to simply welcome them all?
Well, it don't work that way.

That's the conundrum we face.
That's the decision we must make.
As I made it on a personal level with a lung tumor and who I would choose to remove it....I've made "my decision" about what must be done for The West to survive in this world.

I can live with that, too.

Prayers Fish!

[Bigun]

Fisherman my friend I pray for your speedy recovery and wish to tell you that although you may be lacking in some areas (wouldn't know about that but we all are) intellectual depth isn't one of them!

[Bigun]

No he can't. He's gone off the rails.

He was off the rails before this place was ever heard of and nothing has changed!

[flowers]

Yep, it is necessary. That poster has been blasting away, often irrationally, at anyone who is pro Trump. Refugee immigration seems to be high on his/her list too.

To offer the condescending remark about Fishrrman's misguided soul, especially given Fishrrman's current situation is unacceptable.

I've watched sink go off the rails with amusement, but he/she is becoming malignant.

but he/she is becoming malignant.

  very much so.

[musiclady]

musiclady wrote above:
"I pay close attention to whatever you post because there is much wisdom in your words."

Ah, thanks (and to everyone else for their thoughts).

But the "getting of wisdom" can work like standing in the sun for a while.
You don't have to be all that smart (or wise) to begin with, you just have to stand there.
Works even on us dumb guys!

But just as we must endeavour to protect our individual selves from the dangers of the world that would harm us, so must we protect the greater "body" at large.

It's not wrong to do so.
Sometimes it requires difficult, vexing choices.
Choices that are personal as well as political.

If we are to err, it must be on the side of our own safety.
And our nation's...

You, sir, are NOT a 'dumb guy!'

And I do agree with what you've said here, though some may not realize that......

[flowers]

Hey, Fish! That post deserves it's own board. Really, man you touched on some heavy stuff. Islam is making a move and we are mired–frozen–in PC. This looks like a bad movie I don't want to see the end of.

Yes it does!!!! 

[Lando Lincoln]

Fishrrman - sincere prayers.  Your note was very well done.  Thank you for its composition. 

I only wish the topics and substance were less somber.