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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2202 on: July 14, 2025, 08:53:45 pm »
Denmark to Provide Ukraine With Satellite Imagery and Communications

Volodymyr B.  |  July 14, 2025  |  21:46


Denmark has agreed to provide Ukraine with satellite imagery and communications support through the European Defence Agency (EDA), the Danish Ministry of Defence stated.

In addition to satellite imagery, the agreement expands Ukraine’s access to stable and secure satellite communications, which are considered critical for national defense during wartime.

“I am proud that Denmark is contributing to Ukraine’s space defense. Space is an area that increasingly requires attention in defense policy.

In close cooperation with the EU Defence Agency, Denmark has helped strengthen Ukraine’s satellite communications to defend against Russia. Space solutions have great potential to support the defense of Ukraine, Denmark and Europe,” said Danish Defence Minister Troels Lund Poulsen.

According to the ministry, Ukraine will gain access to satellite communication terminals. For security reasons, the specific types have not been disclosed.

The EDA said it expects other EU member states to join the initiative and consider providing similar support.

“This donation contributes to the advancement of technological strategic freedom of action in space for both Ukraine and Europe,” the Danish ministry said.

In early July, Portugal also announced a space intelligence assistance package for Ukraine.  .  .  .

https://militarnyi.com/en/news/denmark-to-provide-ukraine-with-satellite-imagery-and-communications/
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2203 on: July 14, 2025, 08:55:58 pm »
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❗️There are no military goals, Putin is just bombing Ukrainian cities, — NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte.

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2204 on: July 14, 2025, 09:04:59 pm »
Low-Altitude Strike: MiG-29 Destroys Russian Drone Command Center

Taras Safronov  |  July 14, 2025  |  17:46


In the Zaporizhzhia region, a Ukrainian MiG-29 fighter jet launched a precision strike using GBU-39 guided bombs on a Russian drone command center.

Footage of the operation was shared by AIR FIGHTER, a Telegram channel associated with Ukrainian combat aviation.

The jet flew at an ultra-low altitude during the attack to ensure mission success and evade Russian air defense systems.

At low altitudes, aircraft are able to evade radar detection – especially in conditions of low visibility or in areas covered by air defense systems with a limited range.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF1JjakmNcw

In the launch area, MiG-29 engaged afterburners, rapidly gained altitude, and released GBU-39 precision-guided bombs.

The high-precision GBU-39 bombs struck a tree line where the invaders had set up a drone command center.  .  .  .

https://militarnyi.com/en/news/low-altitude-strike-mig-29-destroys-russian-drone-command-center/
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2205 on: July 14, 2025, 09:45:51 pm »
After 6-12 more months of this war, I think Ukraine should declare unconditional surrender by Russia as a criteria.  If Ukraine levels 50% of the production plants producing weaponry for Russia, their ability to wage war will be reduced to sticks and stones.  The destruction of the manufacturing base in Russia has to be strategic.  They have to knock out components of every form of weaponry used by the Russians.  Eventually, they bring fewer and fewer lethal assets to the front line.

And I think Ukraine has to focus on the food and energy industry of Russia.  When Russians do not have food, and they are freezing their murderous posteriors off, perhaps then the people will find their voice.  And Ukraine needs to focus on the Moscow metro.  Moscow is about the coldest place I have ever been.  Less distance to travel to stretch Putin's neck.  I think Russia is a volcano that is beginning to slightly simmer below the cap.  If things heat up and finally blow, Putin and his gang of thugs better have an escape plan, or they will be lining the avenues in Moscow like Spartacus and his band of rebellious slaves at the end of the movie  by the same name (my all time favorite movie).

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2206 on: Today at 06:24:19 am »
Ukraine is corrupt.

Dear Mr Russian troll,
I will please you no end to learn that on the Corruption Index Ukraine's score is 35 of 180; Ranks 105 of 180; Score Change since 2023 is -1.

But

On the same 2024 Index, the county you ardently argue for [ Russia ] Scores 154 of 180; Ranks 154 of 180, Score Change since 2023 is -4


So on that basis any Ukrainian corruption is only marginally worse that the preceding year, while Russia is much, much worse. Therefore, your Ukrainian corruption argument is specious.

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2024
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2207 on: Today at 06:28:00 am »
Concern Troll Narratives in Russia's War of Conquest Against Ukraine

Note that the desired outcome of these various narratives exclusively support Russian war goals and they NEVER favor Ukrainian goals.

1. "It's not our war!" which calls for an end to materiel support for Ukraine which helps Russia.
2. "America First!" which is a variant of #1
3. "This is Europe's war!" which is not only ahistorical it is also a variant of #1

4. "Russia might nuke us!" which is yet another variant on #1 saying we should let Russia do what they want to lest the country that can't conquer the country right next door might decide to cross three different oceans to attack the United States.

5. "Ukraine is corrupt!" which is a morally bankrupt position to take when someone gets attacked by a bully. This particular variant is often accompanied by hatred against America that sounds just like the same crap we hear from the left on a daily basis. The only difference is it is coming from Concern Trolls who are trying to posture Putin and Russia as some bunch of White Knights out to vanquish corruption in Ukraine. These troll narratives often portray the US and our leaders as being manipulated by the nefarious Zelensky and make the case that the US should abandon Ukraine to Russia because of the corruption that took place in Ukraine when they had Russian puppets in charge.

6. "Ukraine should surrender!" which obviously supports Russia's war goals.

Concern trolls also tend to deny the fact that Russia's war against Ukraine started in 2014 long before anyone outside of Ukraine even knew who Zelensky was.

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2208 on: Today at 06:35:59 am »
I assume I was being referred to in this post, though not specifically, or are you going to deflect?

You don't determine anything, I have been here 15 years and you don't sit at the left hand of Jesus.

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2209 on: Today at 06:49:25 am »


She could move to China where she could live as a laowhy in complete safety, except for the occasional beating from the local police while they question her on as an American spy.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2210 on: Today at 08:26:26 am »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, July 14, 2025

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Trump said that European security benefits US interests and noted that Europe is committed to helping Ukraine defend itself. Trump stated that “having a strong Europe is a very good thing” and that Europe thinks supporting Ukraine is important ... Axios on July 13 cited a source stating that Trump told French President Emmanuel Macron following the call that Putin “wants to take all of [Ukraine].” ISW continues to assess that a Russian victory in the war that results in the conquest of all of Ukraine would bring combat experienced Russian forces up to NATO's borders from the Black Sea to the Arctic Ocean such that the United States would need to move large numbers of US forces and commit a significant proportion of its fleet of stealth aircraft to Europe.

Additional US military aid to Ukrainian forces will arrive at a dynamic, not static, frontline characterized by ongoing Russian offensive operations aimed at achieving slow maneuver and by Ukrainian counterattacks in key frontline areas ... Russian forces have established or are actively establishing at least 8 salients that Russian forces could leverage in mutually reinforcing tactical- and operational-level envelopments along the frontline.

Recent Russian attacks in the Velykyi Burluk direction indicate that the Russian military command intends to create a salient from which Russian forces can threaten Ukrainian forces in the rear of the Vovchansk and northern Kupyansk directions ... ISW assessed in late January 2025 that Russian forces were developing and disseminating a doctrinal method of advance throughout the theater that aims to conduct slow envelopments of frontline settlements at a scale that is reasonable for Russian forces to conclude before culminating, and Russian patterns of advance over the last six months are consistent with this assessment.

The Russian military command's apparent decision to bypass the Ukrainian fortress belt in Donetsk Oblast and attempts at a multi-year operation to envelop the southern half of the fortress belt further underscores Russia's commitment to this new doctrinal method.

Forcing Putin to abandon his current theory of victory and agree to end the war on reasonable terms requires Ukrainian forces to stop Russian advances and begin to retake operationally significant areas ... Western aid provided in support of this effort is essential to hastening an end to the war. Ukrainian forces have been successful in holding Russian advances along the frontline to a foot pace while inflicting significant casualties on Russian forces. Putin has demonstrated throughout the past year, however, that he believes in a theory of victory that posits that indefinite Russian gains - no matter how slow or how costly - will allow Russia to achieve his goals in Ukraine.

Putin's theory assumes that the Russia can outlast and overcome Western military assistance to Ukraine and that Ukrainian forces will be unable to liberate any significant territory that Russian forces seize. Putin is operating under the assumption that Ukraine will not be able to acquire and sustain the manpower and materiel required to prevent creeping but indefinite Russian advances or to contest the initiative and conduct counteroffensive operations at some scale to liberate territory. Western military aid to Ukraine's ground forces is required to enable Ukrainian forces to stop Russian advances and then push Russian forces back in critical areas.

Such successes will invalidate Putin's assumptions that Russian forces can continue gradual advances indefinitely and that Russian forces will be able to hold any territory they seize. Only significant Ukrainian battlefield gains will prompt changes in his calculus and force Putin to discard his efforts to prolong the war, come to the negotiating table, and agree to a peace settlement on acceptable terms to bring about Trump's desired just and lasting end to the war.

Timely and reliable Western military assistance to Ukraine coupled with increased economic pressure is necessary to bring about an end of the war on terms satisfactory for the United States, Europe, and Ukraine. Well-provisioned Ukrainian forces have previously demonstrated their ability to prevent Russian forces from making even marginal gains and to retake significant territory despite Russian manpower and materiel advantages.

Western military aid to Ukraine will enable Ukrainian forces to maintain, if not increase, their ability to inflict the significant materiel and personnel losses on the battlefield that are straining Russia's economy. Western provisions of air defense systems to Ukraine will protect Ukraine's people and enable Ukraine's defense industrial base (DIB) to flourish and increasingly meet Ukraine's long-term national security needs. Ukraine's DIB has proven critical for maintaining Ukraine's drone-based defenses that are limiting Russian forces to creeping advances at high costs, and the West will continue to benefit from Ukrainian innovations and industrial capacity in the long-term. Economic pressure, in the form of both Western sanctions and enduring labor shortages and demographic issues brought on by losses in Ukraine, will further strain the Russian economy and reduce the funds available to Moscow for its protracted war effort.

Putin remains committed to his original war aims over 1,200 days into his full-scale invasion and is trying to avoid making concessions at any cost, including those that would risk the long-term security of the Russian state and the stability of Putin's regime.

Putin is deliberately protracting the war in Ukraine, believing that time is on Russia's side. Putin has chosen not to enact socially unpopular policies that would boost Russia's war effort in a sustainable way and continues to bet that the West will abandon Ukraine long before he must. The Trump administration has set the stage to seize on this critical moment, via both military aid to Ukraine and expanded economic pressure on Russia, to exploit Russia's weaknesses and negotiate a deal that maximizes US, European, and Ukrainian interests.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-july-14-2025
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2211 on: Today at 08:28:01 am »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2212 on: Today at 10:41:03 am »
Dear Mr Russian troll,
I will please you no end to learn that on the Corruption Index Ukraine's score is 35 of 180; Ranks 105 of 180; Score Change since 2023 is -1.

But

On the same 2024 Index, the county you ardently argue for [ Russia ] Scores 154 of 180; Ranks 154 of 180, Score Change since 2023 is -4


So on that basis any Ukrainian corruption is only marginally worse that the preceding year, while Russia is much, much worse. Therefore, your Ukrainian corruption argument is specious.

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2024

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2213 on: Today at 10:43:06 am »
Let's stop attacking other Briefers and getting back to the war updates?

The problem is that the Ukraine propagandists only want to hear one side. Any news not supporting the narrative is attacked.

They want to live on fairy cloud land rather than listen to anything they don't want to hear.
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« Reply #2214 on: Today at 12:18:52 pm »
Says the guys on Z's payroll.

Maybe you could try rebutting the point with some sort of proof for Putin/Russian honor and integrity.

I will note that I am  :silly: over saying "Putin/Russian honor and integrity."
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« Reply #2215 on: Today at 12:23:51 pm »
Says the guys on Z's payroll.

Says the facts - things that keep escaping your grasp - weak as it is on all things.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2216 on: Today at 12:28:08 pm »
“Trump has privately encouraged Ukraine to step up deep strikes on Russian territory, even asking Zelenskyy whether he could strike Moscow if the US provided long-range weapons, according to people briefed on the discussions. “

https://x.com/ChristopherJM/status/1945046965173006780

“”We’ll strike if you give us weapons.” - Zelenskyy responded to Trump’s question about why Ukraine hasn’t yet hit the Russian capital.

In response, Trump said that Ukraine should increase pressure on Putin — not just on Moscow, but on St. Petersburg as well.”

https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1945043436031082964

“The Times reports that President Zelensky has found an unexpected ally in the White House. According to the publication, U.S. First Lady Melania Trump, who was born in the former Yugoslavia, regularly reminds her husband of the victims of Russian airstrikes on Ukrainian cities.

On Monday, during a conversation in the Oval Office, Donald Trump said: “I come home and tell the First Lady: ‘I spoke with Vladimir (Putin) today - we had a great conversation.’ And she replies: ‘Really? Meanwhile, another (Ukrainian) city is being hit again.’””

https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1945089417305002398
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2217 on: Today at 12:29:55 pm »
From Russian Sources: public Russian obituaries, graves and memorials.

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« Reply #2218 on: Today at 12:33:02 pm »
The only metric that matters is how much land have the Ukrainians taken back from Putin.

Body counts and lost materiel counts are of no consequence to Putin.  They have no value to him.  They are a means to an end - conquest of Ukraine.
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« Reply #2219 on: Today at 12:42:12 pm »
The only metric that matters is how much land have the Ukrainians taken back from Putin.

Body counts and lost materiel counts are of no consequence to Putin.  They have no value to him.  They are a means to an end - conquest of Ukraine.

Good thing you had no influence during 1989-1994 or the USSR would still occupy Eastern Europe.
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« Reply #2220 on: Today at 01:05:14 pm »
What's the goal, push Putin out of Ukraine's 1992 borders?  Or, regime change in Moscow?

Russia does not have a history of peaceful transfer of power.

The collapse of the Soviet Union was economic, not military.

If Putin is to be defeated, he needs to be defeated economically.

As long as Putin can continue to get income from Brazil, China, and India for oil, he can keep replenishing his weapons' stores.

Wanna squeeze Putin?  Start sabotaging his shadow fleet of oil tankers.  Impair his ability to manufacture and transport munitions.

Biden's half-ass measures gave Putin too much breathing room to invade and occupy Ukrainian territory.
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« Reply #2221 on: Today at 01:06:59 pm »
If Russia/Putin are ousted from Ukraine then regime change in Moscow will be inevitable. Dictator Putin knows this.
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« Reply #2222 on: Today at 01:10:16 pm »
"The collapse of the Soviet Union was economic, not military."

The USSR's decade-long war and subsequent military defeat in Afghanistan absolutely contributed to the fall and dissolution of the Soviet Empire.
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« Reply #2223 on: Today at 01:13:46 pm »
Unlike the Irqi's and the Aghani's, the Ukrainians are willing to shed their own blood, but the West has been too slow and too hesitant to provide Ukraine the offensive capabilities it needs to dislodge the Russians.

Russia needs to lose Ukrainian territory and petro-dollars for there to be any chance of Putin being forced out of office by the Russians themselves.
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« Reply #2224 on: Today at 01:45:06 pm »
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« Reply #2225 on: Today at 02:03:14 pm »
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« Reply #2227 on: Today at 02:38:59 pm »
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