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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1100 on: May 18, 2025, 11:17:22 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1104 on: May 18, 2025, 11:25:02 pm »
Let's stay on topic, people.

The troll reactions on the web are germane to the topic. They serve their master in Moscow.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1105 on: May 18, 2025, 11:27:15 pm »
"Liberators and protectors"

Toretsk population was 87% Russian-speaking before the Russians destroyed it.


from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1kputyr/there_is_nearly_nothing_left_of_toretsk_anymore/
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1106 on: May 18, 2025, 11:39:36 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1107 on: May 18, 2025, 11:40:48 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1108 on: May 19, 2025, 06:28:42 am »
Putin directly threatens Trump and restates Russia's intent to wage war to conquer Ukraine.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14724667/Fears-Ukraine-peace-talks-Russian-TV-broadcasts-Putin-warning-Donald-Trump-stop-trying-dictate-terms.html

Now will Trump wake up to the fact that Russia must be destroyed?

Holding breath here. :2popcorn:
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1109 on: May 19, 2025, 06:39:57 am »
In Stavropol, where Mikhail Gorbachev came from, the tall statue of Lenin is still in one of the city squares with the out stretched arm, and the communists completely in control.

There is also a statue, imported decades ago from Russia, of Lenin standing in the Freemont district of Seattle ...
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1110 on: May 19, 2025, 06:43:50 am »
I believe Putin is backing Trump into a corner, where he gets lucky offering Putin something and he accepts, or he is forced to align with the Neocons and take a hard line on Russia.  Trump's efforts to end that war do not appear to be fruitful, and Putin would only see what Trump has done to date as weakness, and take advantage of Trump.  That is the Russian way!

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That was the opinion of John Bolton also: that Putin believes he has and is now manipulating 47 to agree with him. We'll see just how accurate that assessment turns out to be - how weak or strong 47 really is.
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« Reply #1111 on: May 19, 2025, 06:56:01 am »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, May 18, 2025

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Russian forces conducted the largest single drone strike of the war against Ukraine on the night of May 17 to 18 - in disregard of US President Donald Trump's calls for Russia to stop long-range strikes against Ukraine, particularly against Kyiv Oblast. ... Russian forces have significantly intensified their nightly strikes against Ukraine over the last five months and have conducted several of the largest strikes of the entire war since January 2025. A Russian milblogger claimed that the May 17-18 record-breaking strike was effective due to Russia's use of the “Geran-3” drone (the Russian analogue to the Iranian Shahed-238), which is reportedly equipped with a turbo jet and 300-kilogram warhead. ISW continues to assess that Russian forces are innovating their long-range drone strike tactics in order to offset the effectiveness of Ukrainian mobile defense units and overwhelm the Ukrainian air defense umbrella.

Putin is attempting to distract from Russia's military and economic challenges with this rhetoric. Finnish President Alexander Stubb stated during an interview with UK outlet the Guardian published on May 18 that the Kremlin is falsely posturing its economy and military as strong. Stubb noted that Russia has depleted its financial reserves and that the Russian interest rate is over 20 percent. ISW continues to assess that Russian forces are sustaining significant battlefield losses at rates that are likely unsustainable in the medium- to long-term and that Putin has mismanaged Russia's economy, which is suffering from unsustainable war spending, growing inflation, significant labor shortages, and reductions in Russia's sovereign wealth fund. The continued depletion of Russian materiel, personnel, and economic resources at the current rate will likely present Putin with difficult decision points in 2026 or 2027.

... The New York Times (NYT) reported on May 17 that interviews with 11 Russian soldiers who are currently fighting or have fought in Ukraine demonstrate that some Russian troops are against an unconditional ceasefire and believe that Russia should keep fighting until Russian forces have seized the entirety of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts.  Russian soldiers reportedly called for Russia to continue the war until it reaches its territorial goals and not offer any concessions to Ukraine or the West so that Russia does not have to fight Ukraine again in five or 10 years and so that Russian casualties thus far in the war will not have been in vain ... The NYT noted that an unpublished mid-April 2025 poll by independent Russian opposition polling organization Chronicles found that roughly half of respondents said that they would not support a peace deal that falls short of Russian President Vladimir Putin's initial war aims of Ukrainian “denazification,” demilitarization, and neutrality ... Kremlin officials are increasingly publicly stating that Russia is prepared to continue fighting until Ukraine accepts Russia's demands, likely because the Kremlin assesses that it has adequately prepared Russian society and the Russian military for such a scenario.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-18-2025
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1112 on: May 19, 2025, 10:53:43 am »


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Looks like that one million Russian casualty number will hit within a month....
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1113 on: May 19, 2025, 11:00:09 am »
@MeganC

Looks like that one million Russian casualty number will hit within a month....

Wow. I had called it for the week of 4th of July and I thought I was being pessimistic. Sad that Putin has no regard for the lives of Russia's young men.
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« Reply #1114 on: May 19, 2025, 02:16:46 pm »
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« Reply #1115 on: May 19, 2025, 02:35:00 pm »
Who's bloodbath is this?  Putin's.

I wouldn't trust Putin any further than he can throw me off a balcony.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1116 on: May 19, 2025, 03:09:48 pm »
Russia says it's ready for "peace without preconditions", yet demands Ukraine surrender first LOL

The kibuki theatre continues ... but Russia sure has Trump conned ...
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« Reply #1117 on: May 19, 2025, 06:10:32 pm »

Looks like 47 is forcing Ukraine to accept Putin's terms - surprise? Not.
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« Reply #1118 on: May 19, 2025, 06:11:27 pm »
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« Reply #1119 on: May 19, 2025, 06:12:16 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1120 on: May 19, 2025, 07:22:14 pm »
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« Reply #1121 on: May 19, 2025, 07:22:56 pm »
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« Reply #1122 on: May 19, 2025, 07:24:43 pm »
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« Reply #1123 on: May 19, 2025, 07:58:42 pm »
Looks like 47 is forcing Ukraine to accept Putin's terms - surprise? Not.

Trust the Russians to negotiate in bad faith, as usual.
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« Reply #1124 on: May 19, 2025, 10:43:56 pm »
Putin's generals are 'lying to him' as in reality 'Russia is losing to Ukraine'

Vladimir Putin has no idea Russia is losing in Ukraine because his generals are lying to him, western intelligence sources believe.

Dave Burke, Anthony Orrico  |  May 18, 2025  21:50 ET  |  UPDATED: May 19, 2025 08:43 ET


Russia has reportedly incurred approximately a million casualties since launching its invasion of Ukraine, leaving Russian President Vladimir Putin oblivious to the full extent of the losses his troops are facing.

According to Western intelligence, Putin may believe he is on the winning side due to his generals presenting him with an overly "optimistic" picture of the war's progress. The civilian economy in Russia is showing strain after three years of conflict, with oil revenues falling "well below" the levels required by Putin to sustain his military endeavors, say experts.

This news arrives amidst growing concern over Putin's potential planning for a renewed assault on Ukraine, evidenced by the most intense drone strikes seen since 2022's large-scale invasion began. And Putin's dark expansion plans for the future have been revealed.

Despite widespread economic hardship among Russian citizens, Putin maintains a belief in his victory and demands "completely unreasonable" conditions for the cessation of hostilities, according to intelligence officials.

Yet, expert analysis suggests that Putin's actual territorial gains are only "incremental" as Putin's forces have likely suffered one million casualties, including deceased and injured soldiers, over the past three years.

Moreover, while Russian artillery once outnumbered Ukraine’s by up to fifteen times, that advantage has diminished to about a two-to-one ratio, Western sources assert.  .   .

https://www.the-express.com/news/world-news/172092/putin-Russian-ukraine-war-trump
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1125 on: May 19, 2025, 10:48:03 pm »
Rheinmetall and Lockheed to Build Europe’s First ATACMS and Patriot Missile Factory

Vlad Litnarovych  |  May 19, 2025  |  10:39


German defense giant Rheinmetall and US prime contractor Lockheed Martin agreed to set up a Europe-based joint venture that will build some of Washington’s most in-demand missiles, Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger told Hartpunkt on May 16.

The planned facility—described by Papperger as a “European center of excellence for rockets”—would turn out up to 10,000 missiles and an equal number of rocket motors each year, including ATACMS tactical ballistic missiles (300 km range), GMLRS guided rockets (150 km) for HIMARS and M270 launchers, Hellfire and JAGM air-launched missiles, and PAC-3 interceptors for Patriot air-defense batteries.

Rheinmetall expects to hold a 60 percent stake once the US government signs off, a decision that could clear the way for production lines to be ready within 12-13 months, motors rolling out in 2026, and full missile assembly by 2027.  .  .  .

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1126 on: May 19, 2025, 10:56:41 pm »
'It's a new war': Russian army shifts tactics in Ukraine

Liliana Oleniak  •  10h



Photo: Russia is changing its tactics in the war against Ukraine (Russian media)

Russia is throwing motorcyclists into Ukrainian trenches in an attempt to break through the defense at any cost. The tactic of rapid attacks on motorcycles is a response to a shortage of armored vehicles and the dominance of Ukrainian drones, The Telegraph reports.

Most Russian attacks fail

Since the first attempts over a year ago, most motorcycle attacks have failed - most riders are killed before reaching their target. However, the successful attacks solve a key tactical problem on the frontline in Ukraine: how to cross an open battlefield under constant air supervision - and do so quickly.

The Russian army is reportedly planning to systematically introduce motorcycles along the entire front line before new offensives.

Many lives will be lost, but valuable armored vehicles will be saved - a visible victory in the eyes of the Russian military, which has a constant flow of manpower but is forced to use outdated Soviet tanks that are unsuitable for Ukrainian battlefields.

The first reports of motorcycle units began to appear in April 2024. It started as an informal, spontaneous response to the constant drone strikes, which now kill or maim up to 70% of all soldiers  .  .  .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/it-s-a-new-war-russian-army-shifts-tactics-in-ukraine-the-telegraph/ar-AA1F4ErG
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1127 on: May 20, 2025, 06:10:37 am »

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1924524874367656102

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It seems that Putin spent two hours feeding Trump lies. The Russian dictator stated that Russia is ready for a “possible temporary ceasefire, if certain agreements are reached.”

In other words, they want four Ukrainian regions - which they already claim as theirs - and for weapons shipments to stop.

Russia isn’t making any compromises; it’s simply continuing to apply pressure and issue ultimatums.
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« Reply #1128 on: May 20, 2025, 06:16:41 am »
Reporting From Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/@RFU/videos

Excerpts from the vodeo transcript.


Iran Rushes in as Russia's Manpower Collapses!

Today [ May 19, 8 pm ], there are a lot of interesting updates from the Pokrovsk direction. Here, further developments confirmed what many only suspected, that Iranian fighters are now on the battlefield, fighting for Russia. With Ukrainians containing Russian advances and unleashing devastating artillery barrages, the growing presence of foreign recruits reveals just how far Russia is reaching to keep its offensive alive. The goal of the Russian forces in this area is to widen their western pincer around Pokrovsk. This is because the Russian forces in the western pincer are in a fire pocket under constant Ukrainian drone strikes and artillery shelling. The Russians hope that by widening their western pincer, they could create enough of a buffer zone to put their logistics beyond the range of Ukrainian precision fire, so that they could restart their flanking maneuver around Pokrovsk.

The main Russian advantage in this area is that the Ukrainians are short on manpower on the frontline, creating gaps in their defense lines. This means that Ukrainians often pull back from more advanced positions to defensive positions in settlements and larger strongholds, to avoid being surrounded and overrun. However, to prevent Russian forces from taking advantage of this, Ukrainians compensate with extensive drone reconnaissance, directing artillery and FPV’s to strike and take out these Russian assault groups. Because Ukrainians have been so successful in eliminating these groups, Russians are also starting to run short on manpower to launch these infiltration assaults. To solve this issue, the Russian army is recruiting anyone it can to fill its manpower gaps ... recent footage shared by an Iranian news outlet shows GoPro footage of a group of Russian soldiers preparing for an assault. However, while wearing Russian uniforms, several are clearly heard speaking in Persian ... One Iranian soldier is complaining to a Russian about having a foot injury, saying that he cannot go on the assault and requires medical attention ... the Iranian and Russian soldiers are having problems communicating and understanding each other, as the Russian soldiers keep trying to tell the Iranians they need to move out.

 ... the language barriers severely hinder coordination and intelligence sharing, just like with the North Koreans, leading to disorganized attacks, higher casualties, and risks of friendly fire ... After Ukrainian forces tactically withdrew from overextended positions in the tree lines and fields south of Udachne, to stronger defensive positions within the town, Russian commanders sought to rush in and pursue the Ukrainian force ... undermanned, and with their Iranian allies embedded in their units hesitating to advance, the Russian pursuit was doomed to fail. Unfortunately for the Russian soldiers, their commanders pressed on regardless.

As Russian soldiers made their way into the industrial zone of Udachne, they had walked straight into a Ukrainian ambush ...
Overall, the Ukrainian strategy around Udachne focused on a calculated withdrawal and subsequent tactics that funnel Russian forces into pre-designated kill zones. By doing so, they concentrate their forces and maximize the impact of their limited resources, using artillery and drones to destroy concentrated enemy formations. The severity of Russian losses, compounded by coordination issues and manpower shortages, has forced Russians to increasingly rely on foreign recruits like Iranians to sustain their offensives. However, a patchwork of undertrained and poorly coordinated units is proving no match for Ukraine’s disciplined defenses and precise firepower.

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« Reply #1129 on: May 20, 2025, 06:21:19 am »


Now with the new Iranian flavors!
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #1130 on: May 20, 2025, 09:46:50 am »
The Ukrainians will be doing America, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates a big favor killing the Ayatollah's cannon fodder.

To get Iranian cannon fodder, I bet Putin had to gift something nuclear-weapons related to Iran.  Cannon fodder for Nukes.
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« Reply #1131 on: May 20, 2025, 12:08:10 pm »
The Ukrainians will be doing America, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates a big favor killing the Ayatollah's cannon fodder.

To get Iranian cannon fodder, I bet Putin had to gift something nuclear-weapons related to Iran.  Cannon fodder for Nukes.

Or missile tech or oil etc.
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« Reply #1133 on: May 20, 2025, 12:12:05 pm »
Russian Media Monitor: Russian pundits say Trump's peace plan won't lead to peace

Russian TV show “Your Own Truth,” featuring host Roman Babayan, journalist Michael Bohm and head of the Department of Political Science and Sociology of the Plekhanov Russian University of Economics Andrey Koshkin.

Roman Babayan: What will Trump do once he realizes he was tricked?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfsX-jlH_3o

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« Reply #1134 on: May 20, 2025, 12:12:36 pm »
I hope Trump feels like an idiot for thinking he could cut a deal with Putin.
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« Reply #1135 on: May 20, 2025, 12:31:30 pm »
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05/20/2025

Putin’s Main Achievement in Conversation with Trump Named

The US has categorically refused to introduce new sanctions against Russia - this is a major diplomatic victory for Vladimir Putin, the Kremlin says.

“The conversation was good. Vladimir Vladimirovich prepared well, this helped to bring the conversation in the right direction. As a result: we continue direct dialogue with Ukraine, meanwhile we are developing the summer offensive [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/5669 ] summed up the results of the conversation [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/5688 ], and the United States is not introducing new sanctions,” the interlocutor in the Presidential Administration

A source in the diplomatic corps also emphasized that it was important to enter into direct negotiations with the Ukrainians, without unnecessary intermediaries. “They wanted to drag the Americans and the Europeans ( to the negotiating table - Ed. ). In direct negotiations, we will put pressure on them, and then we will see what this leads to,” the source said.

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Putin got not only no more new sanctions, but pushed 47 to withdraw from further negotiations - double win for Putin.
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« Reply #1136 on: May 20, 2025, 12:37:23 pm »
Russia must be destroyed.
RUSSIA MUST BE DESTROYED!!!

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« Reply #1137 on: May 20, 2025, 12:48:48 pm »
Russia must be destroyed.
Agreed ... 22222frying pan 13859 :bash:  :MiniGun: but ultimately under 47 11513
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« Reply #1138 on: May 20, 2025, 01:55:47 pm »
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Russia must be destroyed.


Never going to happen.  You keep saying this, and who exactly is going to destroy Russia?  Who?  The USA?  To attack Russia with the intent of destroying it would result in a nuclear exchange that would result in nuclear winter and result in the death of just about everything but maybe cockroaches.

Trump should lead all nations in shutting off Russia for trade of particularly their oil/gas.  That would end the war in a matter of months.  Russia is already crumbling economically, but it could be accelerated.  I envision by year's end Putin begging to negotiate an end to the war.  Right now, he is delusional.  That is the only explanation.

Trump needs to take a different approach with Putin.  Russians do not respect anyone that appears to be weak, and that is how Putin would see Trump's approach to him.  They only respect the knock the teeth from their mouth, a brutal, direct and threatening approach.  Russians basically are a barbaric people, and Putin in particular.   He cares not about the men dying in this war, he only cares about increasing his personal wealth and control of the world.


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« Reply #1139 on: May 20, 2025, 02:38:28 pm »

Never going to happen.  You keep saying this, and who exactly is going to destroy Russia?  Who?  The USA?  To attack Russia with the intent of destroying it would result in a nuclear exchange that would result in nuclear winter and result in the death of just about everything but maybe cockroaches.

Trump should lead all nations in shutting off Russia for trade of particularly their oil/gas.  That would end the war in a matter of months.  Russia is already crumbling economically, but it could be accelerated.  I envision by year's end Putin begging to negotiate an end to the war. Right now, he is delusional. That is the only explanation.

Trump needs to take a different approach with Putin. Russians do not respect anyone that appears to be weak, and that is how Putin would see Trump's approach to him. They only respect the knock the teeth from their mouth, a brutal, direct and threatening approach.  Russians basically are a barbaric people, and Putin in particular. He cares not about the men dying in this war, he only cares about increasing his personal wealth and control of the world.

Agreed, but unless someone takes Putin out, he will find a way to continue fighting - he has nothing to lose by continuing and much to lose, including his life, if he sues for peace.

"Right now, he is delusional. That is the only explanation." Or he's insane, another explanation.
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« Reply #1140 on: May 20, 2025, 04:15:18 pm »
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Wow. I had called it for the week of 4th of July and I thought I was being pessimistic. Sad that Putin has no regard for the lives of Russia's young men.
Putin with every decision he has made since he came to power has proven he cares nothing for the lives of Russian men in uniform.  As a totalitarian nation, STILL, these people follow a leader that is a demagogue in every manner.

Putin let the men die on the submarine Kursk, when the USA or Great Britain could have saved their lives.  Putin told both countries to stay back.

With the attack in Beslan in southern Russia, again, he did not care for the lives of Russian children when he ordered Russian soldiers to go in and kill the terrorists holding the children.  Many died needlessly.

In the theater in Moscow, again many died when he ordered that the theater be gased, and the hostages died of the gas.

And now the war in Ukraine, which was of his making, and he will most likely allow 2 million Russian men to die or be injured in his war of aggression against Ukraine. 

Trump in regard to Putin has been a complete clown.  If he does not take off the gloves and implement a policy of total destruction of Russia's economic ability, then perhaps he is under the control of Putin.  Frankly, I have found it disgusting his praise of Putin, a man from day one of coming to power has been nothing but a murderous despot.

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« Reply #1141 on: May 20, 2025, 06:06:03 pm »
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« Reply #1142 on: May 20, 2025, 06:44:14 pm »
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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« Reply #1143 on: May 20, 2025, 08:44:59 pm »
... implement a policy of total destruction of Russia's economic ability....

We agree. Russia must be destroyed.
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« Reply #1149 on: May 20, 2025, 11:34:13 pm »


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