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« Reply #150 on: March 28, 2025, 02:15:06 pm »
Like you're programmed to believe WWII never ended and our true destiny is to die protecting the civilization that has blessed the world with socialism, marxism, fascism, nazism, globalism and more than one hundred million dead in just one century?   Like you're programmed to believe the war in 1776 wasn't *really* about America's independence?


What do you want to know about why WWII happened? Cause we didn't balls to stand up to Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and USSR (our fake allies) before it got bloody. Have you heard of Neville Chamberlain?


In this day and age, WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE and stand up to bullies like Russia, China, and Iran.  Our oceans aren't going to protect us anymore.
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« Reply #151 on: March 28, 2025, 02:45:35 pm »
"I thought that Mr Art of the Deal was supposed to end the war."


Even before he was immaculated!
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« Reply #152 on: March 28, 2025, 03:42:32 pm »
You're unable to see today's world as it actually exists.  It isn't helpful, but I hope this at least brings you comfort.

That's rich coming from somebody who lives in unicorn and fairytale land.

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« Reply #153 on: March 28, 2025, 04:34:48 pm »

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« Reply #154 on: March 28, 2025, 04:34:53 pm »

What do you want to know about why WWII happened? Cause we didn't balls to stand up to Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and USSR (our fake allies) before it got bloody.

What's this "we" sh!t?  :laugh:   Half of Europe was fine with Hitler.

Today, if Europe seriously thinks Russia is the threat many here claim it is, why were Germany, France, Belgium, and Spain key importers of Russian LNG in 2024?

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In this day and age, WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE and stand up to bullies like Russia, China, and Iran.  Our oceans aren't going to protect us anymore.

I agree with you.  I see China as the threat of our lifetime, not Russia. Russia grows stronger as China grows stronger.

I think saving the United States from falling to China is the biggest challenge of our lifetime. --- a challenge we are not fully prepared for --- not militarily, financially, technologically, or psychologically.  We don't have the luxury of squandering more of what we need for our own survival on yet another European misadventure.

Personally, I'm past the insistence that we owe Europe unquestioned military and financial support every time they rip off one of their peace bandaids and start to bleed  --- *and* the antiquated NATO Treaty still promoting this BS.   

Europe should mop up their own messes, or stop making them.




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« Reply #155 on: March 28, 2025, 05:23:10 pm »
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« Reply #156 on: March 28, 2025, 05:29:39 pm »
Europe should mop up their own messes, or stop making them
Words that every warmongering dictator loves to hear!
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« Reply #157 on: March 28, 2025, 05:30:43 pm »
Words that every warmongering dictator loves to hear!

Rapists like those words, too.
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« Reply #158 on: March 28, 2025, 05:34:58 pm »
END GAME Putin declares he can ‘finish off’ Ukraine in brazen defiance of Trump – as he boards nuke sub and unleashes new strikes
The SUN by Georgie English Sayan Bose  Updated: 11:36 ET, Mar 28 2025

A MENACING Vladimir Putin has defied Donald Trump and declared he can "finish off" Ukraine despite an impending ceasefire.

The brutal tyrant has also unleashed a wave of fresh strikes on civilian targets and retaken a border village in Kursk.

Putin made the threat while visiting a nuclear submarine base in Russia's frozen north - just a week after Sir Keir Starmer had a similar visit.

He launched a new nuclear submarine named the Perm - the first of its kind to be equipped with hypersonic Zircon missiles as a standard feature.

Vlad brushed aside peace moves declaring: “Not long ago I said we’d grind them [Ukraine] down — now it looks like we’ll finish them off.”

Putin also called for Volodymyr Zelensky to be ousted by generals and replaced by an internationally-supervised provisional government to hold elections.

The tyrant's threats come as his forces bombed a liquid gas facility in the latest violation of pledges to halt such strikes.

Vlad's forces also bombed a hospital in what Kyiv labelled as a "war crime".

More: https://www.the-sun.com/news/13853765/trump-ukraine-russia-peace-talks-saudi-arabia-riyadh/



And it was yesterday that I read that Putin really, really wanted peace. What to  believe?? :shrug:
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« Reply #159 on: March 28, 2025, 05:35:40 pm »
Why is Europe still defining Western Civilization?

Your civilization is being defined by Europe only if you use the metric system, have parliamentary government, eschew rugged individualism, and expect nanny Government to cradle you from birth to grave.

Abusing geese to make foie gras, eating smelly cheese, drinking wine, and indulging socialist sloth does not make a society 'civilized'.

America defends Europe because some of our money is over there.  It's more 'noble' to espouse 'preserving civilization' than it is to rally Americans around defending J.P. Morgan's foreign investments.
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« Reply #160 on: March 28, 2025, 06:53:36 pm »
Your civilization is being defined by Europe only if you use the metric system, have parliamentary government, eschew rugged individualism, and expect nanny Government to cradle you from birth to grave.

Abusing geese to make foie gras, eating smelly cheese, drinking wine, and indulging socialist sloth does not make a society 'civilized'.

America defends Europe because some of our money is over there.  It's more 'noble' to espouse 'preserving civilization' than it is to rally Americans around defending J.P. Morgan's foreign investments.

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« Reply #161 on: March 28, 2025, 07:04:47 pm »
America defends Europe because some of our money is over there. 

No, America defends Europe because of the lessons of World War II and 1930s appeasement, and also with the understanding that the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans are no longer natural protective barriers against foreign attack against CONUS, Hawaii, and U.S. territories.
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« Reply #162 on: March 28, 2025, 07:49:57 pm »
No, America defends Europe because of the lessons of World War II and 1930s appeasement, and also with the understanding that the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans are no longer natural protective barriers against foreign attack against CONUS, Hawaii, and U.S. territories.

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« Reply #163 on: March 28, 2025, 08:14:36 pm »
The Ukraine War is one of the best bargains America can get.

No American troops are getting injured or killed, Ukrainians (and foreign volunteers) are doing all the fighting and dying. (You can thank them for keeping Russia back, because if Putin had conquered Ukraine, he'd be attacking and invading the Baltic Countries as we speak!) All they ask is proper financial and military help, and they'll do all the dirty work.

In return, America gets to test its weapons systems under real-world battle conditions (something difficult to replicate in peacetime), gets to study Russian signals intel and Russian war tactics up-close, and gets to observe cutting-edge military tactics that are changing warfare (e.g, drone warfare). America also gets a helpful reminder of its weaknesses (like armament production) ... something far better to know now, than during a real war with, say, China.

Useful military tactical and strategic returns with no American lives lost ... that's a smart investment!!
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« Reply #164 on: March 28, 2025, 08:17:11 pm »
No, America defends Europe because of the lessons of World War II and 1930s appeasement, and also with the understanding that the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans are no longer natural protective barriers against foreign attack against CONUS, Hawaii, and U.S. territories.


WWII was the last war that the Oceans saved our butts.
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« Reply #165 on: March 28, 2025, 08:48:18 pm »
Today, if Europe seriously thinks Russia is the threat many here claim it is, why were Germany, France, Belgium, and Spain key importers of Russian LNG in 2024?

The same reason the United States is a key importer of Chinese manufactured goods.


Personally, I'm past the insistence that we owe Europe unquestioned military and financial support every time they rip off one of their peace bandaids and start to bleed  --- *and* the antiquated NATO Treaty still promoting this BS.

Nonsense.  The "antiquated NATO Treaty" has kept the peace in Western Europe for three-quarters of a century.  And if Ukraine had been granted entry ten years ago, there would be no war right now.
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« Reply #168 on: March 28, 2025, 09:27:11 pm »
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20 ruZZian soldiers that recently surrendered to AZOV (earlier post). Here's where they came from.





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« Reply #169 on: March 28, 2025, 09:33:30 pm »
These Ukrainian women survived Putin’s prisons – now they’re taking revenge

Former POWs use their suffering as fuel to throw themselves back into the fight against Russia with more determination than ever

Verity Bowman, Kramatorsk  |  28 March 2025  |  6:00am GMT




In the front line city of Kramatorsk, a Ukrainian woman who endured torture and humiliation in Russian captivity is making a vow of revenge.

“Before captivity, I was angry at the Russians,” said Snizhana Vasylivna Ostapenko, a 23-year-old soldier who was held by Moscow for five months. “Now it’s true hatred and a desire to have revenge for what they’ve done to our country and our people.”

Earlier this year, Ms Ostapenko spoke out on the horrors she had been subjected to during her incarceration. Her account, along with those given by several other women taken as POWs, revealed a systematic campaign of abuse.

They described being beaten and denied medical care, as well as being forced to march naked in the snow and expose themselves to their captors – evidence of what are almost certainly war crimes.

The Telegraph travelled to Ukraine to find out how these women had learned to live with their trauma and found they had thrown themselves back into the fight against Russia and were more determined than ever to thwart Vladimir Putin’s invasion.

Far from letting their trauma beat them, they have turned their experiences into a source of strength.  .  .  .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/ukraine-female-prisoners-of-war-russia-putin-prisons/
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« Reply #170 on: March 28, 2025, 09:37:23 pm »
Ukrainian Forces Destroy Dozen of Russian Tanks, Including T-90M, in One Blow Near Andriivka

Lucile Brizard  |  Mar 28, 2025  |  17:24


On March 28, Ukrainian units successfully repelled a rare large-scale Russian armored assault near Andriivka, in the Pokrovsky direction, destroying an entire column of 12 armored vehicles, according to Militarnyi.

The attack, described as one of the most intense in recent weeks, involved a Russian column advancing with visible flags—a tactic not seen in recent operations. Ukrainian drone unit “Birds of Magyar” and the 35th Regional Military Brigade were credited with halting and eliminating the armored convoy. Photographs and footage purportedly showing the aftermath of the destruction were circulated by a Lieutenant of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with the call sign Alek.

The lieutenant shared several photos of the destroyed enemy equipment and noted that it had been a long time since Russian forces had deployed such a large number of armored vehicles at once in the Kryvyi Rih direction.

According to him, the situation near Andriivka in the Pokrovsk sector was intense, with Russian troops launching an assault  .  .  .

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« Reply #172 on: March 28, 2025, 10:19:37 pm »
The Ukraine War is one of the best bargains America can get.

No American troops are getting injured or killed, Ukrainians (and foreign volunteers) are doing all the fighting and dying.  All they ask is proper financial and military help.

In return, America gets to test its weapons systems under real-world battle conditions (something difficult to replicate in peacetime), gets to study Russian signals intel and Russian war tactics up-close, and gets to observe cutting-edge military tactics that are changing warfare (e.g, drone warfare). America also gets a helpful reminder of its weaknesses (like armament production) ... something far better to know now, than during a real war with, say, China.

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« Reply #173 on: March 29, 2025, 07:08:40 am »
You've earned an "A" for effort and creativity.   88devil


I hope you realize that Russia (your favorite country) is allied with China. Yes, China is a threat, but I have a feeling that Trump will say that Xi is a swell guy like he does with Putin. But Russia and China are joined at the hip. So, if we don't stop Russia, it will give a clear signal for China to invade Taiwan.
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« Reply #174 on: March 29, 2025, 08:08:36 am »
Reporting From Ukraine:
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The excerpts from the video transcript.

[ Chaos in Belgorod! Ukrainians Open a New Front Inside Russia!]

Today [ Mar 27, 8 pm ], there is interesting news from the Russian Federation. Ukraine conducted another daring assault on enemy territory, as Russian forces were throwing in everything they had to sabotage the Ukrainian withdrawal from Kursk. The new Ukrainian operation sought to disrupt the focus of Russian commanders, forcing them to split their resources. Russia had concentrated forces on Kursk, attempting to pin down Ukrainian troops and inflict heavy losses during their withdrawal.

A well-executed retreat in good order was critical for Ukraine, not only to preserve manpower and equipment, but to prevent Russia from gaining dangerous momentum and achieving a breakthrough into Sumy Oblast. The Belgorod incursion served as a pressure valve, forcing the Russian command to react and redeploy forces away from Kursk. By striking at Russian border settlements, the choice of Belgorod was important, close enough to the Kursk front to force a reaction, but distant enough to prevent an immediate Russian counteroffensive.
 
By the time of the Belgorod operation, Ukraine had already pulled back most of its forces from Kursk, including its elite assault units, special forces, artillery, and Western armored vehicles. These assets had been held in reserve, due to Russian FPV fiber optics drone activity in the Kursk sector, and were available for a high-intensity diversionary strike. This allowed Ukraine to deploy refreshed, well-equipped troops in an unexpected sector, overwhelming Russian defenses.

Despite being a limited operation, the Belgorod incursion caused alarm among Russian analysts and military journalists. Prominent Russian military analysts expressed deep concern over the incursions, while reports indicated that the Russian high command had begun shifting forces from Kursk to Belgorod, precisely the outcome Ukraine sought. Ukraine’s Belgorod incursion quickly achieved its primary objective, diverting Russian attention and resources away from Kursk. By forcing the enemy to react, Ukraine ensured that its withdrawal in Kursk continued in an organized manner, while also demonstrating its ability to strike deep into Russian territory repeatedly. Whether this operation expands further remains uncertain, but its immediate effect is undeniable: Russia is now on the defensive, scrambling to create a task force in another direction to contain yet another Ukrainian breakthrough.


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« Reply #175 on: March 29, 2025, 08:20:38 am »
Time and again in this long war, Ukraine has shown the ability to execute smart and disciplined operations in a professional manner.

No wonder Russia can't defeat them! lol
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« Reply #176 on: March 29, 2025, 08:21:35 am »
Reporting From Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/@RFU/videos

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[ Russians Devastated! Lose Months of Progress! ]

Today [ Mar 28, 8 pm ], there are a lot of interesting updates from the Toretsk direction.

Here, with Russian forces weakened and stretched thin, Ukraine is pressing forward in Toretsk with a coordinated and relentless assault. Using precision airstrikes, artillery, and elite ground units, they are systematically dismantling Russian defenses, paving the way for the next phase of their offensive. This would disrupt Russian plans, forcing them to prematurely commit reserves that are being gathered for a summer offensive on Kostyantynivka. By drawing Russian forces into another costly battle for Toretsk, similar to their previous failed attempts, Ukraine could drain Russian manpower and resources, effectively resetting their progress. If successful, this would indefinitely delay Russian offensive plans for Kostyantynivka, keeping them locked in a stalemate while Ukraine maintains momentum in other sectors of the front. To keep Russian forces at bay in the Toretsk area, Ukraine is deploying some of its most elite assault units, including the Azov Brigade, in a coordinated combined arms warfare strategy.

This means Ukrainian forces are not only conducting infantry assaults but also integrating air support, artillery, and drone strikes to maximize their battlefield effectiveness. By using guided bombs to demolish fortified Russian positions, Ukraine has managed to inflict heavy casualties and disrupt enemy assault plans. Even when some Russian troops survive these strikes, they are left scattered and disorganized, and their defensive positions are rendered useless, making it significantly harder for them to launch counterattacks.

Overall, the Ukrainian forces managed to suppress the Russian forces in the Toretsk area through aggressive and well-coordinated combined arms warfare, using aviation and artillery combined with ground raids by stormtroopers and demolition squads. These actions are disrupting Russian preparations for their planned summer offensive on Kostiantynivka, as complete control of Toretsk is necessary for them to consolidate forces and equipment. Instead, Russian commanders are being forced to divert more reserves into the ongoing battle for Toretsk, risking a complete loss of the city under increasing Ukrainian pressure.


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« Reply #177 on: March 29, 2025, 08:30:30 am »
Russia’s Shadow Fleet: A Masterclass in Sanctions Evasion

https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/russias-shadow-fleet-a-masterclass-in-sanctions-evasion/

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In the wake of Western sanctions surrounding the Ukraine war, Russia developed a network of clandestine oil tankers to ensure the continuity of its energy exports – the so-called “shadow fleet.” This system of tanker ships, through various deceptive practices, has been successful in evading international monitoring and restrictions. The vessels, often registered under flags of convenience, are Moscow’s primary tool for circumventing the oil price cap and maintaining supply to global energy markets. And despite international efforts to counter such activities, the shadow fleet has significantly expanded, becoming a major revenue source for Russia.

In fact, Russia’s shadow fleet has been so successful that similar strategies are sure to arise in the future as other states seek to evade sanctions.

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To circumvent these restrictions, Russia developed an extensive network of clandestine oil tankers. It consists of often obsolete vessels (15-20+ years), registered under flags of convenience, which are used to transport oil and refined products primarily to China, India, and Turkey.

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The Kremlin has adopted various strategies to avoid international controls and ensure the operational continuity of its shadow fleet. One of the most common tactics is the registration of oil tankers under the flags of convenience, mainly Panama, Liberia, the Marshall Islands, the Cook Islands, and Gabon. These vessels are not subject to the same regulations applied in countries that adhere to sanctions, allowing them to operate without the risk of seizure or interdiction of ports.

A significant part of the fleet involves tankers that previously belonged to the Russian state-owned company Sovcomflot, which were subsequently transferred to companies based in the United Arab Emirates. The move served to conceal Russian ownership, facilitating their ongoing use in international markets. Such shell companies, often just a desk in a Dubai free-trade zone or an address in the Seychelles, tend to obscure links to the Russian state​.

Another popular tactic is manipulating or hiding ship data: tankers turn off their AIS transponders (Automatic Identification System) and go dark while at sea, making them invisible to satellite and tracking systems. Moreover, there is the ship-to-ship transfer technique, which consists of transferring loads between two ships in open sea, concealing the shipment’s actual origin.

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« Reply #186 on: March 29, 2025, 02:28:14 pm »
Anyone else needing convincing that Z is more interested in the Grift than in any lasting peace?


https://twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1905984584824627266
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« Reply #187 on: March 29, 2025, 02:29:16 pm »
Anyone else needing convincing that Z is more interested in the Grift than in any lasting peace?


https://twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1905984584824627266

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B.S.   he just isn’t interested in being sold down the river by the chamberlainesque Trump

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« Reply #188 on: March 29, 2025, 02:33:01 pm »
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B.S.   he just isn’t interested in being sold down the river by the chamberlainesque Trump

Okay....  I want you to go on direct record saying....   I want to send Ukraine another $200B in aid.  DO IT!!!  I f'ing dare you. 

Sick of that grifting son of a bitch.  We got Musk working his ass off, and you want to bleed it over the Z....    Nice move.
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« Reply #189 on: March 29, 2025, 02:44:04 pm »
Anyone else needing convincing that Z is more interested in the Grift than in any lasting peace?

So where's the grift?
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« Reply #190 on: March 29, 2025, 02:48:03 pm »
Okay....  I want you to go on direct record saying....   I want to send Ukraine another $200B in aid.  DO IT!!!  I f'ing dare you.

Another $200B?  You say that like we've already done that.

And no, giving USAID $40 billion and calling it "Ukraine aid" doesn't cut it.
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« Reply #191 on: March 29, 2025, 02:52:09 pm »
Another $200B?  You say that like we've already done that.

And no, giving USAID $40 billion and calling it "Ukraine aid" doesn't cut it.

You have proof Z isn't skimming?  Lots of anecdotal evidence says otherwise.  In any case I'll leave you and your hero alone.  :silly:
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« Reply #192 on: March 29, 2025, 03:03:25 pm »
You have proof Z isn't skimming?

You're asking me to prove a negative?  Seriously?


Lots of anecdotal evidence says otherwise.

Let's see it.  It's been three years now since I first started asking this question.  Still waiting.
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« Reply #193 on: March 29, 2025, 03:20:42 pm »
You're asking me to prove a negative?  Seriously?


Let's see it.  It's been three years now since I first started asking this question.  Still waiting.

Can't vouch for this site, but they do seem to have a focus on net worth of notable people.

This source has his net worth @ $610M, despite he making only $20M in his TV Career, and <$12K annually as Ukraine leader.  Stock tips from Nancy?  Which don't forget that she and Biden, and Schumer were his biggest allies.    Offshore businesses?  But think about it.  Why is Zellinsky resisting peace and the end of the death of his people so adamantly?   I am dying to know that one.

This guy doesn't have the busines acumen of DJT.  I will take great joy when the entire details of the money trail of Z, the EU, and U.S, when it  finally comes to light.

p.s.  Psssssst.....   Hint Hint....   It's 2025...  no one is donning blue and teal, uses pronouns, or believes in the climate change scam anymore.

https://www.greatandhra.com/wealth/zelensky-net-worth/
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FR is a cesspool and shockingly with real pro-Russia zealots.  Here at TBR, even us in the anti-Zellinsky faction want to see Putin hanging from a light pole.
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« Reply #197 on: March 29, 2025, 03:51:02 pm »
Okay....  I want you to go on direct record saying....   I want to send Ukraine another $200B in aid.  DO IT!!! 

How about we just send them everything that was appropriated for them like the USAF retired F-16s, the old Tomahawk missiles, the 3 million 155mm shells that were slated for disposal, and then send the money the Democrats grifted that never left the USA?
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FR is a cesspool and shockingly with real pro-Russia zealots.  Here at TBR, even us in the anti-Zellinsky faction want to see Putin hanging from a light pole.

I want Putin impaled on a light pole. Hanging is too nice for the murderous POS.

Not that I have any strong opinions about the question.  tri22
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