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« Reply #200 on: March 29, 2025, 04:21:38 pm »
Reporting From Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/@RFU/videos

Excerpts from the transcript.


[ Major Scale-Up! Russians Brace For a Counteroffensive! ]

Today [ Mar 29, 8 pm ], there are a lot of interesting updates from the Borova direction ... the elite 3rd Assault Brigade underwent a massive upgrade, transforming into a full-fledged army corps, already leading to massively successful counterattacks and gains. This dramatic upgrade, bolstering its combined arms and offensive capabilities with up to 20,000 new soldiers, promises to reshape the balance in the Kupiansk and Borova directions. The Ukrainian General Staff recently completed the restructuring of the elite 3rd Assault Brigade into the new and improved Third Army Corps, which consists of 5 times as many troops and equipment, under the leadership of Andriy Biletsky. This will combine 5 existing brigades under a single command structure, where they all operate as one large body, with the 3rd Assault Brigade making up the core of the corps. Expanding the 3rd Assault Brigade into a Corps increases its force from 4,000 to up to 20,000 soldiers.

Each integrating intelligence, logistics, and specialized support units, the corps enhances firepower and flexibility by assigning dedicated artillery, air defense, reconnaissance, electronic warfare, and engineering units. With up to 20,000 personnel and 900 heavy vehicles, corps headquarters will be able to directly control front sectors and coordinate large-scale operations more effectively than independent brigades can. Now operating under a unified 3rd Army Corps command, 5 brigades will coordinate more effectively than they could as independent ones.

Specifically, this allowed the Ukrainian forces to eliminate several weaknesses Russians were exploiting to great effect ... in the Borova sector, Russians exploited the individualistic nature of the Ukrainian brigade structure to overwhelm 1 brigade, while launching attacks to pin down others and find gaps in the area of responsibility between 2 brigades. Now that the reorganization has been completed, Ukraine is fielding many more combat-ready army corps, which severely complicates any future Russian efforts. Further results of the restructuring will be visible in the future, as the new 3rd Assault Corps have yet to conduct more extensive operations. The new leadership will now first focus on integrating the existing other brigades into their doctrine, train them, and prepare for new, and much larger, operations than we have seen before.


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« Reply #201 on: March 29, 2025, 07:13:26 pm »
Can't vouch for this site, but they do seem to have a focus on net worth of notable people.

This source has his net worth @ $610M,  .  .  .

Did you read the article?  Forbes pegged his net worth at $20 million in 2022.  His main source of income was rental property which plummeted at the start of the 2022 invasion.

Here is the Forbes article: 

President Zelensky Is Not A Billionaire. So How Much Is He Worth?

Matt Durot Forbes Staff. I write about the world’s richest people and their businesses.


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Despite social media reports claiming he’s a billionaire, Volodymyr Zelensky doesn’t come close to making Forbes’ global wealth rankings.

A popular internet meme currently making the rounds claims without evidence that Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky is worth $1.4 billion – “more than Will Smith, Chris Rock, and Dave Chapelle combined.” The insinuation is clear. For Zelensky, a former comedian, to have accumulated a fortune of this size, there must be corruption involved. And while this claim has been parroted by its fair share of anonymous Twitter eggs, a number of blue checks have gotten in on the action.

Lee Stranahan, an American host on Kremlin-owned and controlled Radio Sputnik featured in the Oliver Stone documentary “Revealing Ukraine,” tweeted to his nearly 100,000 followers: “Why Is Zelensky a Billionaire?”

Forbes’ answer: he’s not. The Russian invasion has hit Ukraine’s billionaires hard. According to Forbes’ 36th annual World’s Billionaires List, there are only seven left in the country and Zelensky is not one of them (nor is former president and chocolate magnate Petro Poroshenko, who dropped from the rankings this year).

But unlike his predecessor, Zelensky never was a billionaire. He’s currently worth roughly $20 million, based on reporting by Forbes Ukraine. Additional reporting by Forbes US puts that number at less than $30 million.

His main asset: an estimated 25% stake in Kvartal 95, a group of companies that produce humorous shows, which he transferred to his partners after being elected president, though he’ll likely regain his shares after leaving office. Kvartal 95 produced and owns the Servant of the People series, a popular political comedy starring Zelensky as a Ukrainian high school teacher who is elected president. Netflix, which previously streamed the show between 2017 and 2021, snapped up the rights again in March. With estimated revenues of $30 million annually, Forbes Ukraine values Zelensky’s stake at $11 million.

While he does own a flat in one of Ukraine’s most expensive apartment buildings in the center of Kyiv, it’s relatively modest by Western standards. Forbes estimates Zelensky’s entire real estate portfolio is worth $4 million, including two more wholly owned apartments, two that he co-owns, a single commercial property and five parking spaces. Zelensky did own a $4.6 million villa in Forte dei Marmi, Italy as of December 2019, according to the most recent filing by his holding company. He apparently sold it during 2020  .  .  .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2022/04/20/president-zelensky-is-not-a-billionaire-so-how-much-is-he-worth/

So we have a reputable story from Forbes.  And we have 'other stories from unnamed websites' without citation.  So which one do you choose to believe?  And more importantly, where is the graft?


According to Finance Monthly:  As of 2025, Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s estimated net worth is between $20 million and $30 million.

According to this Pamfleti story from 2024

At that time his wealth was about 20 million dollars, according to Forbes Ukraine reports, while Forbes US says less than 30 million dollars.

His main asset: about a 25% stake in Kvartal 95, a group of companies that produce comedy shows, which he transferred to his partners after being elected president, although he is likely to regain his shares after he leaves office.

Kvartal 95 produced and owns the series Servant of the People, a popular political comedy starring Zelensky as a Ukrainian high school teacher who is elected president.

While he has an apartment in one of Ukraine's most expensive apartment buildings in central Kiev, it is relatively modest by Western standards.

Forbes estimates that Zelensky's entire real estate portfolio is worth $4 million, including two other fully owned apartments, two of which he co-owns, a single commercial property and five parking spaces.

Zelensky owned a $4.6 million villa in Forte dei Marmi, Italy as of December 2019.

What Forbes found out

He apparently sold it in 2020 along with 5 hotel rooms in Georgia.

The money from these sales was declared and included in the Forbes estimate, but since the amount is less than the estimated value of the real estate, there is a possibility that Zelensky remains the de facto beneficiary or the cash was invested elsewhere .

Russian propagandists believe Zelensky owns up to five luxury yachts and three private jets, in addition to $60 million in shares in companies including Saudi Aramco, Meta and Tesla.

Forbes found no evidence of such a fleet, and if Zelensky owns shares in these companies, it's hard to believe those shares would be worth anywhere near $60 million.

He and his wife Olena Zelenska have a bank account that has about $2 million in cash and government bonds.

Their other assets, consisting of two cars and some jewelry, do not exceed $1 million.

Again, a sourced story with a link.  How does that compare against uncited claims from uncited websites? 

So not only can you not vouch for your site, you can't vouch for a single claim made there since not one source is named other than Forbes (which soundly discredits the claim you are offering).

This guy doesn't have the busines acumen of DJT.

No one ever claimed he did.


I will take great joy when the entire details of the money trail of Z, the EU, and U.S, when it  finally comes to light.

Allow me to help you out here.  If you want to make a case that Zelenskiy is profiting off of US cash, then it would server your argument to provide an 'After' number to compare against your ridiculous $610 million 'Before' number.  If you can show some comparison showing how Zelenskiy's financial holdings have skyrocketed since the start of 2022, then you might have a case.  But the bullshit you are offering here today only proves to be an embarrassment to you.  Come on, @catfish1957 .  You're better than this.  If you are going to accuse someone of graft, at least come up with something showing it.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #202 on: March 29, 2025, 07:14:54 pm »
Want to compare net worth?  Look here:

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/compare-share/volodymyr-zelenskyy-329485/vladimir-putin-5252/

Zelenskiy - $25 million
Putin       - $70 billion
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #203 on: March 29, 2025, 09:25:18 pm »
Limo from Putin's fleet explodes and catches fire in Moscow amid assassination paranoia

A limousine from Vladimir Putin's official car fleet was engulfed in flames in Moscow amid the Kremlin's rising assassination concerns

Will Stewart  |  Mar 29, 2025  |  05:03 ET



The Aurus Senat was ablaze near Moscow’s FSB secret service Lubyanka headquarters
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Dramatic footage has captured the moment an Aurus limousine "from Vladimir Putin’s official car fleet" exploded and caught fire in Moscow.

Videos showed the $357,000 Aurus Senat ablaze on a street just north of Moscow’s FSB secret service Lubyanka headquarters.The engine fire spread to the interior of the vehicle. Flames could be seen erupting from the engine as witnesses franticaly worked to put the fire out.

Firefighters rushed to the scene and thick, dark, smoke billowed out of the car as they flooded the engine with water. Reports did not reveal who was using the car - believed to be owned by Putin’s Presidential Property Management Department - when the shocking incident occurred.

Nor was it reported what had caused the sudden blaze on Sretenka Street. Putin, 72, routinely uses the Russian-made cars and has previously gifted the limousines, for example to North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.

Reports say those in the car were not injured. The incident came amid acute paranoia over assassination attempts on Putin.

Seperate images from Russia show servicemen from a ceremonial guard in Murmansk being individually body searched by a Federal Protection Service [FSO] officer for hidden weapons or explosive devices as they stood waiting for the Kremlin dictator to lay a wreath by the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

Each member of the honour guard was searched.Reports say magazines were removed from their guns and plugs fitted into the chambers amid acute fears that Putin may be in danger of assassination from his own troops.  .  .  .

https://www.the-express.com/news/world-news/167643/moment-limo-putins-fleet-fire
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #204 on: March 29, 2025, 09:45:23 pm »
Putin and the «Children Army»

Andrey Pertsev  |  28 March 2025


Vladimir Putin spoke at the congress of the pro-government children’s «Movement of the First» and participated in a meeting of its supervisory board. This «new pioneer movement» was established in December 2022 and, according to its leaders, has recruited 11 million members in just a couple of years—more than a third of Russia’s underage population. The «Movement of the First» is one of the projects of the presidential administration’s political bloc, a Potemkin village of patriotic Russia. It is built according to the blueprints of other decorative schemes devised by Kremlin administrators.

Such projects always emphasize their record-breaking numbers. Numbers matter to Putin, which is why Kremlin officials fabricate new official records for him during elections. The membership of the «Movement of the First» is secured through the coercion typical of Putin’s power vertical. Complaints abound on most parenting forums, with class teachers reportedly pressuring children to join the «new pioneers.» Neither the students nor their parents typically want to clash with teachers, so they comply. School principals and deputies demand key performance indicators (KPIs) for enrollment in the «Movement» from teachers, while municipal and regional authorities pressure the administrators. As a result, Vladimir Putin sees impressive figures and proudly calls the movement «a whole army,» giving him yet another reason to praise the head of the political bloc, Sergey Kiriyenko, and his team.

Projects like this are managed by trusted careerist bureaucrats loyal to Kiriyenko, and the «Movement of the First» is no exception. It is led by Artem Metelev, a former functionary of United Russia’s «Young Guard,» a former official, and a participant in the Kremlin’s «Leaders of Russia» personnel competition. Metelev knows exactly what his bosses—both immediate and higher up—want and how to present the numbers to them. At the Movement’s council meeting, its leadership invited children whose families are somehow connected to the war or who are personally fascinated by it. War is Putin’s top priority  .  .  .

https://ridl.io/putin-and-the-children-army/
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #205 on: March 29, 2025, 09:53:04 pm »
Putin army disaster as Ukraine captures top commander and repels massive Russian attack

Russia has significantly stepped up its attacks on Ukrainian positions in March, despite ongoing peace talks with US officials in Saudi Arabia.

John Varga  |  Mar 29, 2025  |  15:07


Ukraine's army has captured a Russian commander and inflicted heavy losses on Vladimir Putin's army in fierce battles along the eastern front. Russia has significantly stepped up its attacks on Ukrainian positions in March, despite ongoing peace talks with US officials in Saudi Arabia.

According to analysts from the open-source intelligence group Deep State, Putin's forces have launched 17% more assaults in March than in the whole of February. The number of attacks in recent days has exceeded 200 per day, the highest since the beginning of 2025. Some of the worst affected areas include the Kupyansk, Limansk, Pokrovsk and Kursk fronts.

Ukraine's 12th Azov Special Forces Brigade captured a commander and 19 of his soldiers, after a fierce battle near Toretsk in the Donetsk region.

In a post to its Telegram channel, the brigade said: "They were lucky to survive.  .  .  .

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2034283/vladimir-putin-russian-army-donetsk-ukraine-war
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #206 on: March 30, 2025, 02:30:37 am »
Russia Doubles Number of Missile Carriers in the Black Sea

Ivan Khomenko  |  Mar 29, 2025  |  11:07


Russia has doubled the number of missile carriers stationed in the Black Sea, increasing the potential threat of Kalibr cruise missile strikes, according to the Ukrainian Navy.

On the morning of March 29, the Ukrainian Navy reported the presence of two Russian vessels equipped with Kalibr missiles in the Black Sea. The day before, only one such ship had been observed.

According to the Navy, these two vessels are capable of launching up to eight Kalibr cruise missiles in total, should an attack be carried out.

No Russian naval presence was recorded in the Sea of Azov as of Saturday morning.

In the Mediterranean Sea, however, four Russian ships were observed, including three equipped with Kalibr cruise missiles. These three vessels could collectively launch up to 26 missiles.

The Navy also reported that, over the past 24 hours, two vessels transited the Kerch Strait into the Black Sea, but neither proceeded toward the Bosporus. Meanwhile, 12 vessels entered the Sea of Azov, five of which had traveled from the Bosporus.

The Ukrainian Navy noted that the Russian Federation continues to violate the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea (SOLAS) by switching off their Automatic Identification Systems (AIS), obscuring vessel movements in the region.  .  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russia-doubles-number-of-missile-carriers-in-the-black-sea-7160




This comes only four days after Putin agreed to a Black Sea cease fire.
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« Reply #208 on: March 30, 2025, 06:17:15 am »
That pic is worth posting again ...

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« Reply #210 on: March 30, 2025, 08:43:59 am »
Кремлевская табакерка

The Central Bank has begun preparing for a “very severe crisis.” The Kremlin responded with a call to stop panicking and threatened martial law.

The Central Bank “has checked Russian banks for readiness for a collapse in oil prices and increased sanctions... Conducted stress testing of Russian banks in case of a “risk scenario” of economic development.” Such news is a harbinger of a serious crisis, our sources in the Central Bank claim.

“Everything is happening as I told you ( in mid-March , - ed.). If the SVO does not end by the summer, or at the latest in June, a terrible, very severe crisis will hit the Russian economy. The banking system will mostly withstand it, but overall the situation will be tragic in places,” noted the source, who had previously predicted serious problems in the near future in conversations with Tabakerka.

According to another source close to Elvira Nabiullina, “the SVO may well drag on. That is why we have begun preparing for the crisis. It would be extremely irresponsible not to start it, despite the fact that we are talking about something with the Americans.” At the same time, the Kremlin does not believe in the tragic scenarios from the Central Bank.

“Nobody knows how long the SVO will last. But Nabiullina’s people have been panicking and whining for months now. Stop panicking! Otherwise, we will deal with the panic-mongers according to the laws of wartime,” said a high-ranking interlocutor in the Presidential Administration.

The source did not explain what he meant. But he promised that “the panic-mongers will feel it on their own skin.”

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« Reply #212 on: March 30, 2025, 09:08:16 am »
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« Reply #214 on: March 30, 2025, 09:14:50 am »
Putin and the «Children Army»

Andrey Pertsev  |  28 March 2025


Vladimir Putin spoke at the congress of the pro-government children’s «Movement of the First» and participated in a meeting of its supervisory board. This «new pioneer movement» was established in December 2022 and, according to its leaders, has recruited 11 million members in just a couple of years—more than a third of Russia’s underage population. The «Movement of the First» is one of the projects of the presidential administration’s political bloc, a Potemkin village of patriotic Russia. It is built according to the blueprints of other decorative schemes devised by Kremlin administrators.

Such projects always emphasize their record-breaking numbers. Numbers matter to Putin, which is why Kremlin officials fabricate new official records for him during elections. The membership of the «Movement of the First» is secured through the coercion typical of Putin’s power vertical. Complaints abound on most parenting forums, with class teachers reportedly pressuring children to join the «new pioneers.» Neither the students nor their parents typically want to clash with teachers, so they comply. School principals and deputies demand key performance indicators (KPIs) for enrollment in the «Movement» from teachers, while municipal and regional authorities pressure the administrators. As a result, Vladimir Putin sees impressive figures and proudly calls the movement «a whole army,» giving him yet another reason to praise the head of the political bloc, Sergey Kiriyenko, and his team.

Projects like this are managed by trusted careerist bureaucrats loyal to Kiriyenko, and the «Movement of the First» is no exception. It is led by Artem Metelev, a former functionary of United Russia’s «Young Guard,» a former official, and a participant in the Kremlin’s «Leaders of Russia» personnel competition. Metelev knows exactly what his bosses—both immediate and higher up—want and how to present the numbers to them. At the Movement’s council meeting, its leadership invited children whose families are somehow connected to the war or who are personally fascinated by it. War is Putin’s top priority  .  .  .

https://ridl.io/putin-and-the-children-army/

There are literally 100's of X, and You Tube videos of Ukraine kidnapping 15 year olds on the street for conscription. With their mothers, screaming, pleading, and kicking at the perps, during the dirty deed. In fact, JD Vance was bringing that matter up at the WH visit, when Z went off on his tirade calling JD a "bitch".   Hoodat, you are a lock step ally with Biden, Schumer, Pelosi on Ukraine policy   Even Linzy Graham has seen the light.  I'd suggest you do too, before we start laughing at you.

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« Reply #215 on: March 30, 2025, 09:18:51 am »
Did you read the article?  Forbes pegged his net worth at $20 million in 2022.  His main source of income was rental property which plummeted at the start of the 2022 invasion.



You mean this article that I gave you?....

Sources of Zelensky’s Wealth

Even though Forbes reports that Zelensky’s net worth at just $20 million dollars, there are many conflicting reports about his actual net worth. For instance, as per the leaked Pandora Papers, Zelensky and his associates have many offshore accounts in millions of dollars. As per an estimate, the money in these offshore accounts exceeds $100 million.

Even though certain websites have quoted Zelensky’s net worth as upwards of $1 billion, this is not true. Most conservative estimates state that Zelensky is worth over $200 million.

As per a couple of other websites, Zelensky’s net worth is over $590 million dollars and has over $10 million in monthly income.

The Pandora Papers revealed that Zelenskyy and his chief aide and the head of the Security Service of Ukraine Ivan Bakanov operated a network of offshore companies in the British Virgin Islands, Cyprus, and Belize. These companies included some that owned expensive London property.

Zelensky-Net-Worth
Zelensky’s Net Worth Growth

Net Worth in 2022   $610 million
Net Worth in 2021   $570 million
Net Worth in 2020   $420 million
Net Worth in 2019   $190 million
Net Worth in 2018   $110 million
Before becoming the President of Ukraine, Zelensky is a huge celebrity, earning millions of dollars through television shows and royalty income. As per earlier estimates, Zelensky has earned over $20 million through his television shows.

At the time of becoming Ukraine’s President, Zelensky’s net worth is estimated to be $50 million. Since then, however, the net worth has grown tremendously.

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« Reply #222 on: March 30, 2025, 11:17:54 am »
Trump says he’s ‘very angry’ and ‘pissed off’ at Putin during an NBC News interview

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-angry-putin-zelenskyy-iran-sanctions-rcna198729

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President Donald Trump said he was “very angry” and “pissed off” when Russian President Vladimir Putin criticized the credibility of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s leadership, adding that the comments were “not going in the right location.”

Agence France-Presse reported that Putin on Friday called for a transitional government to be put in place in Ukraine, which could effectively push out Zelenskyy.

“If Russia and I are unable to make a deal on stopping the bloodshed in Ukraine, and if I think it was Russia’s fault — which it might not be — but if I think it was Russia’s fault, I am going to put secondary tariffs on oil, on all oil coming out of Russia,” Trump said in an early-morning phone call with NBC News on Sunday.

“That would be that if you buy oil from Russia, you can’t do business in the United States,” Trump said. “There will be a 25% tariff on all oil, a 25- to 50-point tariff on all oil.”

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« Reply #223 on: March 30, 2025, 11:25:03 am »
Putin has zero legitimacy to call for a new Government in Ukraine.

Putin has jailed and killed political opponents (both in Russia and abroad), held the Donetsk referendums at gunpoint without a secret ballot (so everybody can see how you're voting), even tracked own and killed anyone who voted the wrong way.

Putin has zero cred in anything related to "elections".
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« Reply #224 on: March 30, 2025, 11:32:46 am »
You as a Canadian just equated up to 80M of us as communist? That's insulting.   

I am not MAGA, but list one GOP candidate who would have or been able to hire Musk, and face our debt crisis in earnest, for really the first time in my life time.   He's done a great job, and silly shit like this is utter garbage and a  distraction.

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Truth hurts, don't it, particularly when it comes from someone you've been deriding.

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« Reply #225 on: March 30, 2025, 11:34:39 am »
You mean this article that I gave you?....

Sources of Zelensky’s Wealth

Even though Forbes reports that Zelensky’s net worth at just $20 million dollars, there are many conflicting reports about his actual net worth. For instance, as per the leaked Pandora Papers, Zelensky and his associates have many offshore accounts in millions of dollars. As per an estimate, the money in these offshore accounts exceeds $100 million.

Even though certain websites have quoted Zelensky’s net worth as upwards of $1 billion, this is not true. Most conservative estimates state that Zelensky is worth over $200 million.

As per a couple of other websites, Zelensky’s net worth is over $590 million dollars and has over $10 million in monthly income.

The Pandora Papers revealed that Zelenskyy and his chief aide and the head of the Security Service of Ukraine Ivan Bakanov operated a network of offshore companies in the British Virgin Islands, Cyprus, and Belize. These companies included some that owned expensive London property.

Zelensky-Net-Worth
Zelensky’s Net Worth Growth

Net Worth in 2022   $610 million
Net Worth in 2021   $570 million
Net Worth in 2020   $420 million
Net Worth in 2019   $190 million
Net Worth in 2018   $110 million
Before becoming the President of Ukraine, Zelensky is a huge celebrity, earning millions of dollars through television shows and royalty income. As per earlier estimates, Zelensky has earned over $20 million through his television shows.

At the time of becoming Ukraine’s President, Zelensky’s net worth is estimated to be $50 million. Since then, however, the net worth has grown tremendously.



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« Reply #226 on: March 30, 2025, 11:44:56 am »
You mean this article that I gave you?....

Sources of Zelensky’s Wealth

Even though Forbes reports that Zelensky’s net worth at just $20 million dollars, there are many conflicting reports about his actual net worth. For instance, as per the leaked Pandora Papers, Zelensky and his associates have many offshore accounts in millions of dollars. As per an estimate, the money in these offshore accounts exceeds $100 million.

Even though certain websites have quoted Zelensky’s net worth as upwards of $1 billion, this is not true. Most conservative estimates state that Zelensky is worth over $200 million.

As per a couple of other websites, Zelensky’s net worth is over $590 million dollars and has over $10 million in monthly income.

The Pandora Papers revealed that Zelenskyy and his chief aide and the head of the Security Service of Ukraine Ivan Bakanov operated a network of offshore companies in the British Virgin Islands, Cyprus, and Belize. These companies included some that owned expensive London property.

Zelensky-Net-Worth
Zelensky’s Net Worth Growth

Net Worth in 2022   $610 million
Net Worth in 2021   $570 million
Net Worth in 2020   $420 million
Net Worth in 2019   $190 million
Net Worth in 2018   $110 million
Before becoming the President of Ukraine, Zelensky is a huge celebrity, earning millions of dollars through television shows and royalty income. As per earlier estimates, Zelensky has earned over $20 million through his television shows.

At the time of becoming Ukraine’s President, Zelensky’s net worth is estimated to be $50 million. Since then, however, the net worth has grown tremendously.


@Hoodat

The Pandora Papers are a series of investigations by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists.

https://www.icij.org/category/investigations/

Not only is there no such article about Zelensky on their site but in 2022 they complained about Russian propagandists making false claims about their site.

Catfish, you were duped by previously refuted Russian propaganda. I'm sorry. They fool me too sometimes.
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« Reply #227 on: March 30, 2025, 11:57:02 am »
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Truth hurts, don't it, particularly when it comes from someone you've been deriding.

One of these days you are going to post something that makes sense.
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« Reply #228 on: March 30, 2025, 11:59:56 am »
One of these days you are going to post something that makes sense.

I already do; one of these days (hopefully) you'll come back to your senses enough to see at least a glimmer of the truth.  In the meantime, you'll continue to wallow in ignorance and hatred.  The image is true; Ronald Reagan would not have recognized you and would have disavowed your positions.

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« Reply #229 on: March 30, 2025, 12:23:14 pm »
I already do; one of these days (hopefully) you'll come back to your senses enough to see at least a glimmer of the truth.  In the meantime, you'll continue to wallow in ignorance and hatred.  The image is true; Ronald Reagan would not have recognized you and would have disavowed your positions.

Questioning my conservative credentials?  I have oft cited wanting to gut Fedzilla back to Defense, State, and Treasury.  Pro Life, Pro Defense, Anti climate scam, Fiscal Responsibility, Pro-border security. etc. etc. I am not going to let you smear my standing a conservative on bullshit.

Let me let you in on a little secret.  The Reagan position of the Evil Empire was true in the 1980's when the USSR was a powerhouse, and bloc that served as a threat to Europe.   Let's fast forward to 2025....   They are:

1. Now the 11th largest nation in the world in GDP, inferior to the EU on every economic and military parameter that matters.
2. Demographics that trend toward national demise
3. Have a currency that is at its all time low 1 Rouble = 1 US cent.
4. Stuck in quagmire for 2 1/2 years with no certain victory in sight

Your assertion that 1984 USSR and 2025 Russia is absurd.  Now add the fact that basically no GOP members, including Linzy Graham support Ukraine?  Do you think Reagan would support funding this money pit at our detriment while being $36T in debt. 

No....Reagan would be chiding you along with your allies Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer.  And that is the truth.
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« Reply #230 on: March 30, 2025, 12:24:14 pm »
Questioning my conservative credentials?  I have oft cited wanting to gut Fedzilla back to Defense, State, and Treasury.  Pro Life, Pro Defense, Anti climate scam, Fiscal Responsibility, Pro-border security. etc. etc. I am not going to let you smear my standing a conservative on bullshit.

Let me let you in on a little secret.  The Reagan position of the Evil Empire was true in the 1980's when the USSR was a powerhouse, and bloc that served as a threat to Europe.   Let's fast forward to 2025....   They are:

1. Now the 11th largest nation in the world in GDP, inferior to the EU on every economic and military parameter that matters.
2. Demographics that trend toward national demise
3. Have a currency that is at its all time low 1 Rouble = 1 US cent.
4. Stuck in quagmire for 2 1/2 years with no certain victory in sight

Your assertion that 1984 USSR and 2025 Russia is absurd.  Now add the fact that basically no GOP members, including Linzy Graham support Ukraine?  Do you think Reagan would support funding this money pit at our detriment while being $36T in debt. 

No....Reagan would be chiding you along with your allies Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer

Reagan would not have recognized you or your willingness to appease tyranny for the sake of a false economy.  In fact, he would have repudiated you.

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« Reply #231 on: March 30, 2025, 12:32:21 pm »
Reagan would not have recognized you or your willingness to appease tyranny for the sake of a false economy.  In fact, he would have repudiated you.

You avoided substance in deference to silliness. And false economy?  What the hell are you talking about?
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« Reply #232 on: March 30, 2025, 12:41:34 pm »
You avoided substance in deference to silliness. And false economy?  What the hell are you talking about?

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« Reply #233 on: March 30, 2025, 12:42:16 pm »
There are literally 100's of X, and You Tube videos of Ukraine kidnapping 15 year olds on the street for conscription. With their mothers, screaming, pleading, and kicking at the perps, during the dirty deed. In fact, JD Vance was bringing that matter up at the WH visit, when Z went off on his tirade calling JD a "bitch".   Hoodat, you are a lock step ally with Biden, Schumer, Pelosi on Ukraine policy   Even Linzy Graham has seen the light.  I'd suggest you do too, before we start laughing at you.

Your hypocricy is staggering, disgenious, and disgusting.

The videos you cite are LNR/DNR troops under Russian command dragging their neighbors away. This was mostly during the first year or two of the invasion - after that, most of the Shanghaied civilians lay in mud, rotting and uncounted, by their Russian masters who sent them to their deaths in meat waves of 5-9 at a time, against well fortified UKR positions.

These actions earned the occupying Russians hatred of the first order, and inspired the partisan movement in the occupied territories. Most effective were teams of women baking treats for Russian troops, laced with warfarin.
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« Reply #235 on: March 30, 2025, 01:42:46 pm »
The videos you cite are LNR/DNR troops under Russian command dragging their neighbors away. This was mostly during the first year or two of the invasion - after that, most of the Shanghaied civilians lay in mud, rotting and uncounted, by their Russian masters who sent them to their deaths in meat waves of 5-9 at a time, against well fortified UKR positions.

These actions earned the occupying Russians hatred of the first order, and inspired the partisan movement in the occupied territories. Most effective were teams of women baking treats for Russian troops, laced with warfarin.


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« Reply #236 on: March 30, 2025, 02:55:41 pm »
Most effective were teams of women baking treats for Russian troops, laced with warfarin.

Warfarin is rat poison. How appropriate.  :yowsa:
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« Reply #237 on: March 30, 2025, 03:27:22 pm »
Russia has nukes aimed at us. Therefore Russia should be treated as an enemy. Reagan would agree.

Questioning my conservative credentials?  I have oft cited wanting to gut Fedzilla back to Defense, State, and Treasury.  Pro Life, Pro Defense, Anti climate scam, Fiscal Responsibility, Pro-border security. etc. etc. I am not going to let you smear my standing a conservative on bullshit.

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1. Now the 11th largest nation in the world in GDP, inferior to the EU on every economic and military parameter that matters.
2. Demographics that trend toward national demise
3. Have a currency that is at its all time low 1 Rouble = 1 US cent.
4. Stuck in quagmire for 2 1/2 years with no certain victory in sight

Your assertion that 1984 USSR and 2025 Russia is absurd.  Now add the fact that basically no GOP members, including Linzy Graham support Ukraine?  Do you think Reagan would support funding this money pit at our detriment while being $36T in debt. 

No....Reagan would be chiding you along with your allies Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer.  And that is the truth.

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« Reply #238 on: March 30, 2025, 03:31:33 pm »
You mean this article that I gave you?....

Let's review, shall we?


Sources of Zelensky’s Wealth
Even though Forbes reports that Zelensky’s net worth at just $20 million dollars,  .  .  .


So your story begins by admitting the existence of a Forbes article that investigated Zelenskiy's net worth - an article that has since been provided to you to show their research.  An article that to this day Forbes continues to stand by.  It details property sold along with other 2019 divestments.


there are many conflicting reports about his actual net worth. For instance, as per the leaked Pandora Papers, Zelensky and his associates have many offshore accounts in millions of dollars.


Here is Zelenskiy's lone 'offshore' [sic] account.  Less than €400k in Union Bancaire Privee in Zurich.  You can translate it yourself since you need clearly practice in doing actual research:

Інша юридична особа
Юридична особа, зареєстрована за кордоном
Найменування (англійською): UNION BANCAIRE PRIVEE, UBP SA
Найменування (українською): ЮНІОН БАНКАІРЕ ПРІВЕЕ, ЮБП СА
Ідентифікаційний код: [Не відомо]
Місцезнаходження (англійською): Bahnhofstrasse 1,CH-8022, Zurich
Місцезнаходження (українською): Банхофштрассе 1. СЧ -8022, Цюріх
Кошти, розміщені на банківських рахунках
Розмір: 350272
Валюта: EUR
Власність
Прізвище: Зеленський
Ім'я: Володимир
По батькові (за наявності):Олександрович

https://public.nazk.gov.ua/documents/d8f5e4ed-0d3f-4781-8988-158d6aa0ae83#heading-11:~:text=entity%20registered%20abroad-,Name%20(in%20English)%3A%20UNION%20BANCAIRE%20PRIVEE%2C%20UBP%20SA,-Name%20(in%20Ukrainian


.  .  .  there are many conflicting reports about his actual net worth.  .  .


None of which you cited.  And neither did your 'source' [sic].


For instance, as per the leaked Pandora Papers, Zelensky and his associates have many offshore accounts in millions of dollars.


Key phrase - "and his associates".  A rather pathetic form of non-rational persuasion.  (See logical fallacies:  Association fallacy).


As per an estimate, the money in these offshore accounts exceeds $100 million.


"An estimate"?  Seriously?  This is what you have?  Not even Pandora's estimate.  But only "An estimate".

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So where did this estimate come from?  Vladimir Solovyov?


As per a couple of other websites, Zelensky’s net worth is over $590 million dollars and has over $10 million in monthly income.


Can you please post those websites so that we can examine the basis of those claims?  Because you damn well know that in TBR world, providing citations such as "As per a couple of other websites" as the evidentiary basis for proving that Zelenskiy's net worth sits near $600 million simply doesn't cut it.   


The Pandora Papers revealed that Zelenskyy and his chief aide and the head of the Security Service of Ukraine Ivan Bakanov operated a network of offshore companies in the British Virgin Islands, Cyprus, and Belize.


That was in 2012.  Zelenskiy divested in 2019 before taking office.


Zelensky-Net-Worth
Zelensky’s Net Worth Growth

Net Worth in 2022   $610 million
Net Worth in 2021   $570 million
Net Worth in 2020   $420 million
Net Worth in 2019   $190 million
Net Worth in 2018   $110 million


Again, where did these numbers come from?  They certainly didn't come directly from the Pandora Papers.

And again, where is the grift?  It's been over three years now.  Let's see your hand.  Show us the grift, @catfish1957
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« Reply #239 on: March 30, 2025, 03:32:48 pm »
Russia has nukes aimed at us. Therefore Russia should be treated as an enemy. Reagan would agree.

I never discounted that aspect, or ever said that Russia was not our enemy. 

But launching nukes......wouldn't that be a bigger risk with our intervention or further escalation?
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« Reply #240 on: March 30, 2025, 03:35:48 pm »
Questioning my conservative credentials?

No.  Just your integrity.
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« Reply #241 on: March 30, 2025, 03:37:35 pm »
Let's review, shall we?


So your story begins by admitting the existence of a Forbes article that investigated Zelenskiy's net worth - an article that has since been provided to you to show their research.  An article that to this day Forbes continues to stand by.  It details property sold along with other 2019 divestments.


Here is Zelenskiy's lone 'offshore' [sic] account.  Less than €400k in Union Bancaire Privee in Zurich.  You can translate it yourself since you need clearly practice in doing actual research:

Інша юридична особа
Юридична особа, зареєстрована за кордоном
Найменування (англійською): UNION BANCAIRE PRIVEE, UBP SA
Найменування (українською): ЮНІОН БАНКАІРЕ ПРІВЕЕ, ЮБП СА
Ідентифікаційний код: [Не відомо]
Місцезнаходження (англійською): Bahnhofstrasse 1,CH-8022, Zurich
Місцезнаходження (українською): Банхофштрассе 1. СЧ -8022, Цюріх
Кошти, розміщені на банківських рахунках
Розмір: 350272
Валюта: EUR
Власність
Прізвище: Зеленський
Ім'я: Володимир
По батькові (за наявності):Олександрович

https://public.nazk.gov.ua/documents/d8f5e4ed-0d3f-4781-8988-158d6aa0ae83#heading-11:~:text=entity%20registered%20abroad-,Name%20(in%20English)%3A%20UNION%20BANCAIRE%20PRIVEE%2C%20UBP%20SA,-Name%20(in%20Ukrainian


None of which you cited.  And neither did your 'source' [sic].


Key phrase - "and his associates".  A rather pathetic form of non-rational persuasion.  (See logical fallacies:  Association fallacy).


"An estimate"?  Seriously?  This is what you have?  Not even Pandora's estimate.  But only "An estimate".

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So where did this estimate come from?  Vladimir Solovyov?


Can you please post those websites so that we can examine the basis of those claims?  Because you damn well know that in TBR world, providing citations such as "As per a couple of other websites" as the evidentiary basis for proving that Zelenskiy's net worth sits near $600 million simply doesn't cut it.   


That was in 2012.  Zelenskiy divested in 2019 before taking office.


Again, where did these numbers come from?  They certainly didn't come directly from the Pandora Papers.

And again, where is the grift?  It's been over three years now.  Let's see your hand.  Show us the grift, @catfish1957

My citation was from a site that covers the net worth of many famous and influential people.  Its up to believe what every you want.  But I'll add...
So, when you see financial accounts on the books of the Biden family, you believe it? 

I am through with you silly Zellinsky kneepadders.  All I need to know is that your are allied with the likes of Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi.

Own it.
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« Reply #242 on: March 30, 2025, 03:49:29 pm »
My citation was from a site that covers the net worth of many famous and influential people.  Its up to believe what every you want.  But I'll add...
So, when you see financial accounts on the books of the Biden family, you believe it? 

I am through with you silly Zellinsky kneepadders.  All I need to know is that your are allied with the likes of Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi.

Own it.

Lost in all of this, is that the fact that  true more imminent threat are the Chicoms. 

Don't seem to sense much concern from the Uke support crowd around them.  :pondering:
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« Reply #243 on: March 30, 2025, 03:58:56 pm »
My citation was from a site that covers the net worth of many famous and influential people.

And here are your exact words:  "Can't vouch for this site"


Its up to believe what every you want.

It's up to me to determine a basis for my belief - a basis that includes evidence and citations, none of which can be found in your 'source' [sic] (which you can't vouch for).


But I'll add...
So, when you see financial accounts on the books of the Biden family, you believe it?

Seeing financial accounts on the books of the Biden family is certainly more than you have offered on Zelenskiy (which for the last three years has been zero).


I am through with you silly Zellinsky kneepadders.

I am through with you repeatedly accusing Zelenskiy of being a grifter and then placing the burden of proof on others to show that he isn't.  If I wanted to see arguments like that, I would go to DU.


All I need to know is that your are allied with the likes of Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi.

Uh, no.  There are five previous threads that prove me to be a very harsh critic of Biden/Shumer/Pelosi's policies on Zelenskiy.  But then you knew that already.  Yet here you are again pushing a false narrative.

Why not just simply own up to the fact that you can't find a single example of Zelenskiy grift, and that maybe your emotions got the best of you.  Acknowledge your mistake and move on.
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« Reply #244 on: March 30, 2025, 04:02:41 pm »
And here are your exact words:  "Can't vouch for this site"


It's up to me to determine a basis for my belief - a basis that includes evidence and citations, none of which can be found in your 'source' [sic] (which you can't vouch for).


Seeing financial accounts on the books of the Biden family is certainly more than you have offered on Zelenskiy (which for the last three years has been zero).


I am through with you repeatedly accusing Zelenskiy of being a grifter and then placing the burden of proof on others to show that he isn't.  If I wanted to see arguments like that, I would go to DU.


Uh, no.  There are five previous threads that prove me to be a very harsh critic of Biden/Shumer/Pelosi's policies on Zelenskiy.  But then you knew that already.  Yet here you are again pushing a false narrative.

Why not just simply own up to the fact that you can't find a single example of Zelenskiy grift, and that maybe your emotions got the best of you.  Acknowledge your mistake and move on.

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« Reply #245 on: March 30, 2025, 04:06:30 pm »
Trump says he’s ‘very angry’ and ‘pissed off’ at Putin during an NBC News interview

Trump said in an early-morning phone call that if he believes Russia is at fault for a ceasefire not being reached with Ukraine, he may impose secondary tariffs on Russian oil.

Kristen Welker and Megan Lebowitz  |  March 30, 2025  |  9:47 AM EDT


WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said he was “very angry” and “pissed off” when Russian President Vladimir Putin criticized the credibility of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s leadership, adding that the comments were “not going in the right location.”

Agence France-Presse reported that Putin on Friday called for a transitional government to be put in place in Ukraine, which could effectively push out Zelenskyy.

“If Russia and I are unable to make a deal on stopping the bloodshed in Ukraine, and if I think it was Russia’s fault — which it might not be — but if I think it was Russia’s fault, I am going to put secondary tariffs on oil, on all oil coming out of Russia,” Trump said in an early-morning phone call with NBC News on Sunday.

“That would be that if you buy oil from Russia, you can’t do business in the United States,” Trump said. “There will be a 25% tariff on all oil, a 25- to 50-point tariff on all oil.”

The president’s comments come after he had previously criticized Zelenskyy  .  .  .

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-angry-putin-zelenskyy-iran-sanctions-rcna198729
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« Reply #246 on: March 30, 2025, 04:11:18 pm »
Russia Strikes Gas Facilities in Overnight Attack on Ukraine, Disregarding Ceasefire Agreement

Amira Barkhush  |  Mar 28, 2025  |  13:30


During a large-scale overnight attack on March 28, Russian forces damaged gas production facilities belonging to Ukraine’s state energy company Naftogaz, the company reported on March 28 on its website.

This marks the 18th combined attack on Naftogaz Group infrastructure since the start of the full-scale war and the eighth such incident in 2025 alone.

Naftogaz specialists are currently assessing the damage and working to mitigate the consequences of the strike. According to the company, no injuries were reported as a result of the shelling.

“This new strike is not just an attack on our infrastructure — it’s an attempt to undermine the country’s energy stability. Our specialists are already working to assess the damage and address the consequences. Restoration will begin immediately to ensure uninterrupted gas supply, ‘ the company wrote.

On March 28, Russia launched a large-scale UAV strike on industrial zones in Poltava, damaging civilian and energy infrastructure at six sites.  .  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russia-strikes-gas-facilities-in-overnight-attack-on-ukraine-disregarding-ceasefire-agreement-7139
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #247 on: March 30, 2025, 05:43:27 pm »
Lost in all of this, is that the fact that  true more imminent threat are the Chicoms. 

Don't seem to sense much concern from the Uke support crowd around them.  :pondering:

China is a different thread - this thread is about the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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« Reply #248 on: March 30, 2025, 05:49:33 pm »
Reporting From Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/@RFU/videos

Excerpts from the video transcript.
[ It's on Now! Ukrainians Surge Forward and Take Ground!  Fresh APC's Arrive! ]

Today [ Mar 30, 8 pm ], there are a lot of interesting updates from the Kupiansk direction ... in the northern Kupiansk sector, Ukrainian forces are deploying their latest reinforcements, combining mobility and firepower to reshape the battlefield. With fresh deliveries of Bucephalus APC's, they tighten the noose around a key Russian foothold, setting the stage for a decisive turn in the fight along the Oskil River. Ukraine aims to eliminate the Russian bridgehead west of the Oskil River and push Russian forces back from Kupiansk, neutralizing the combined threat to the town. Kupiansk serves as a critical logistics hub and a key crossing point supporting Ukraine’s eastern bridgehead, since the 2022 Kharkiv counteroffensive.

... the Ukrainian high command reinforced the 14th Mechanized Brigade, veterans of the Kharkiv counteroffensive, with BTR-4E Bucephalus armored personnel carriers, among Ukraine’s best domestically produced armored vehicles. With a top speed of 110 km per hour, and amphibious capabilities, the BTR-4E is ideal for combat along the Oskil riverbank's difficult terrain. It enables rapid advances, maneuverability across marshes and muddy terrain, and safe river crossings, ensuring Ukrainian forces can outmaneuver and overwhelm Russian positions. The BTR-4E is armed with a 30mm autocannon, enabling it to suppress Russian infantry while transporting up to 8 fully equipped soldiers. Its armor protects against small arms fire, grenades, and even RPG's, making it ideal for assault operations in this sector.

Furthermore, Ukrainian intelligence reports that Russians have only around 500 soldiers along the entirety of the 20 km foothold across the river, amounting to just 25 soldiers per km of the frontline. This allowed the Ukrainian Bucephalus vehicles to drive through the weakest and most vulnerable points of the Russian defenses to dismount their infantry squads. Subsequently, the Ukrainian fighters used these gaps to go around the main Russian defenses, moving through cover, and then ambushing the Russians from behind, ultimately eliminating them. This allowed the Ukrainian forces to retake several key positions near the settlements of Fyholivka and Zapadne, effectively containing the Russians to a handful of tree lines, while they continued to press on with their assaults.

Overall, the Ukrainians successfully exploited the weaknesses in the Russian Oskil river bridgehead, utilizing high-quality, domestically produced equipment, with the standout being the BTR-4E Bucephalus armored personnel carriers, providing an effective combination of firepower, protection, and mobility.  Further intensification of the Ukrainian mechanized assaults in this area, against the overstretched Russian positions, will allow them to eliminate the Russian bridgehead for as long as the Russians are unable to reinforce their forces there. Additionally, as the main Russian supply hub in Svatove is approximately 75 km away from their efforts here, Russians are unlikely to receive the rapid reinforcements they need to stabilize the front and continue their offensive, as Ukrainians will continue to dismantle the Russian effort and push them back into the river.

BTR-4E Bucephalus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTR-4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vln5TSIxtOE
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #249 on: March 30, 2025, 07:18:13 pm »
Lost in all of this, is that the fact that  true more imminent threat are the Chicoms. 

Don't seem to sense much concern from the Uke support crowd around them.  :pondering:


And the Russians are allied with the Chicoms.

And lost in this is that Russia invaded a sovereign country. Dislike for Z doesn't change that.