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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #225 on: March 30, 2025, 11:34:39 am »
You mean this article that I gave you?....

Sources of Zelensky’s Wealth

Even though Forbes reports that Zelensky’s net worth at just $20 million dollars, there are many conflicting reports about his actual net worth. For instance, as per the leaked Pandora Papers, Zelensky and his associates have many offshore accounts in millions of dollars. As per an estimate, the money in these offshore accounts exceeds $100 million.

Even though certain websites have quoted Zelensky’s net worth as upwards of $1 billion, this is not true. Most conservative estimates state that Zelensky is worth over $200 million.

As per a couple of other websites, Zelensky’s net worth is over $590 million dollars and has over $10 million in monthly income.

The Pandora Papers revealed that Zelenskyy and his chief aide and the head of the Security Service of Ukraine Ivan Bakanov operated a network of offshore companies in the British Virgin Islands, Cyprus, and Belize. These companies included some that owned expensive London property.

Zelensky-Net-Worth
Zelensky’s Net Worth Growth

Net Worth in 2022   $610 million
Net Worth in 2021   $570 million
Net Worth in 2020   $420 million
Net Worth in 2019   $190 million
Net Worth in 2018   $110 million
Before becoming the President of Ukraine, Zelensky is a huge celebrity, earning millions of dollars through television shows and royalty income. As per earlier estimates, Zelensky has earned over $20 million through his television shows.

At the time of becoming Ukraine’s President, Zelensky’s net worth is estimated to be $50 million. Since then, however, the net worth has grown tremendously.



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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #226 on: March 30, 2025, 11:44:56 am »
You mean this article that I gave you?....

Sources of Zelensky’s Wealth

Even though Forbes reports that Zelensky’s net worth at just $20 million dollars, there are many conflicting reports about his actual net worth. For instance, as per the leaked Pandora Papers, Zelensky and his associates have many offshore accounts in millions of dollars. As per an estimate, the money in these offshore accounts exceeds $100 million.

Even though certain websites have quoted Zelensky’s net worth as upwards of $1 billion, this is not true. Most conservative estimates state that Zelensky is worth over $200 million.

As per a couple of other websites, Zelensky’s net worth is over $590 million dollars and has over $10 million in monthly income.

The Pandora Papers revealed that Zelenskyy and his chief aide and the head of the Security Service of Ukraine Ivan Bakanov operated a network of offshore companies in the British Virgin Islands, Cyprus, and Belize. These companies included some that owned expensive London property.

Zelensky-Net-Worth
Zelensky’s Net Worth Growth

Net Worth in 2022   $610 million
Net Worth in 2021   $570 million
Net Worth in 2020   $420 million
Net Worth in 2019   $190 million
Net Worth in 2018   $110 million
Before becoming the President of Ukraine, Zelensky is a huge celebrity, earning millions of dollars through television shows and royalty income. As per earlier estimates, Zelensky has earned over $20 million through his television shows.

At the time of becoming Ukraine’s President, Zelensky’s net worth is estimated to be $50 million. Since then, however, the net worth has grown tremendously.


@Hoodat

The Pandora Papers are a series of investigations by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists.

https://www.icij.org/category/investigations/

Not only is there no such article about Zelensky on their site but in 2022 they complained about Russian propagandists making false claims about their site.

Catfish, you were duped by previously refuted Russian propaganda. I'm sorry. They fool me too sometimes.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #227 on: March 30, 2025, 11:57:02 am »
:bigsilly:

Truth hurts, don't it, particularly when it comes from someone you've been deriding.

One of these days you are going to post something that makes sense.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #228 on: March 30, 2025, 11:59:56 am »
One of these days you are going to post something that makes sense.

I already do; one of these days (hopefully) you'll come back to your senses enough to see at least a glimmer of the truth.  In the meantime, you'll continue to wallow in ignorance and hatred.  The image is true; Ronald Reagan would not have recognized you and would have disavowed your positions.

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« Reply #229 on: March 30, 2025, 12:23:14 pm »
I already do; one of these days (hopefully) you'll come back to your senses enough to see at least a glimmer of the truth.  In the meantime, you'll continue to wallow in ignorance and hatred.  The image is true; Ronald Reagan would not have recognized you and would have disavowed your positions.

Questioning my conservative credentials?  I have oft cited wanting to gut Fedzilla back to Defense, State, and Treasury.  Pro Life, Pro Defense, Anti climate scam, Fiscal Responsibility, Pro-border security. etc. etc. I am not going to let you smear my standing a conservative on bullshit.

Let me let you in on a little secret.  The Reagan position of the Evil Empire was true in the 1980's when the USSR was a powerhouse, and bloc that served as a threat to Europe.   Let's fast forward to 2025....   They are:

1. Now the 11th largest nation in the world in GDP, inferior to the EU on every economic and military parameter that matters.
2. Demographics that trend toward national demise
3. Have a currency that is at its all time low 1 Rouble = 1 US cent.
4. Stuck in quagmire for 2 1/2 years with no certain victory in sight

Your assertion that 1984 USSR and 2025 Russia is absurd.  Now add the fact that basically no GOP members, including Linzy Graham support Ukraine?  Do you think Reagan would support funding this money pit at our detriment while being $36T in debt. 

No....Reagan would be chiding you along with your allies Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer.  And that is the truth.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #230 on: March 30, 2025, 12:24:14 pm »
Questioning my conservative credentials?  I have oft cited wanting to gut Fedzilla back to Defense, State, and Treasury.  Pro Life, Pro Defense, Anti climate scam, Fiscal Responsibility, Pro-border security. etc. etc. I am not going to let you smear my standing a conservative on bullshit.

Let me let you in on a little secret.  The Reagan position of the Evil Empire was true in the 1980's when the USSR was a powerhouse, and bloc that served as a threat to Europe.   Let's fast forward to 2025....   They are:

1. Now the 11th largest nation in the world in GDP, inferior to the EU on every economic and military parameter that matters.
2. Demographics that trend toward national demise
3. Have a currency that is at its all time low 1 Rouble = 1 US cent.
4. Stuck in quagmire for 2 1/2 years with no certain victory in sight

Your assertion that 1984 USSR and 2025 Russia is absurd.  Now add the fact that basically no GOP members, including Linzy Graham support Ukraine?  Do you think Reagan would support funding this money pit at our detriment while being $36T in debt. 

No....Reagan would be chiding you along with your allies Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer

Reagan would not have recognized you or your willingness to appease tyranny for the sake of a false economy.  In fact, he would have repudiated you.

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #231 on: March 30, 2025, 12:32:21 pm »
Reagan would not have recognized you or your willingness to appease tyranny for the sake of a false economy.  In fact, he would have repudiated you.

You avoided substance in deference to silliness. And false economy?  What the hell are you talking about?
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« Reply #232 on: March 30, 2025, 12:41:34 pm »
You avoided substance in deference to silliness. And false economy?  What the hell are you talking about?

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #233 on: March 30, 2025, 12:42:16 pm »
There are literally 100's of X, and You Tube videos of Ukraine kidnapping 15 year olds on the street for conscription. With their mothers, screaming, pleading, and kicking at the perps, during the dirty deed. In fact, JD Vance was bringing that matter up at the WH visit, when Z went off on his tirade calling JD a "bitch".   Hoodat, you are a lock step ally with Biden, Schumer, Pelosi on Ukraine policy   Even Linzy Graham has seen the light.  I'd suggest you do too, before we start laughing at you.

Your hypocricy is staggering, disgenious, and disgusting.

The videos you cite are LNR/DNR troops under Russian command dragging their neighbors away. This was mostly during the first year or two of the invasion - after that, most of the Shanghaied civilians lay in mud, rotting and uncounted, by their Russian masters who sent them to their deaths in meat waves of 5-9 at a time, against well fortified UKR positions.

These actions earned the occupying Russians hatred of the first order, and inspired the partisan movement in the occupied territories. Most effective were teams of women baking treats for Russian troops, laced with warfarin.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #235 on: March 30, 2025, 01:42:46 pm »
The videos you cite are LNR/DNR troops under Russian command dragging their neighbors away. This was mostly during the first year or two of the invasion - after that, most of the Shanghaied civilians lay in mud, rotting and uncounted, by their Russian masters who sent them to their deaths in meat waves of 5-9 at a time, against well fortified UKR positions.

These actions earned the occupying Russians hatred of the first order, and inspired the partisan movement in the occupied territories. Most effective were teams of women baking treats for Russian troops, laced with warfarin.


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« Reply #236 on: March 30, 2025, 02:55:41 pm »
Most effective were teams of women baking treats for Russian troops, laced with warfarin.

Warfarin is rat poison. How appropriate.  :yowsa:
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« Reply #237 on: March 30, 2025, 03:27:22 pm »
Russia has nukes aimed at us. Therefore Russia should be treated as an enemy. Reagan would agree.

Questioning my conservative credentials?  I have oft cited wanting to gut Fedzilla back to Defense, State, and Treasury.  Pro Life, Pro Defense, Anti climate scam, Fiscal Responsibility, Pro-border security. etc. etc. I am not going to let you smear my standing a conservative on bullshit.

Let me let you in on a little secret.  The Reagan position of the Evil Empire was true in the 1980's when the USSR was a powerhouse, and bloc that served as a threat to Europe.   Let's fast forward to 2025....   They are:

1. Now the 11th largest nation in the world in GDP, inferior to the EU on every economic and military parameter that matters.
2. Demographics that trend toward national demise
3. Have a currency that is at its all time low 1 Rouble = 1 US cent.
4. Stuck in quagmire for 2 1/2 years with no certain victory in sight

Your assertion that 1984 USSR and 2025 Russia is absurd.  Now add the fact that basically no GOP members, including Linzy Graham support Ukraine?  Do you think Reagan would support funding this money pit at our detriment while being $36T in debt. 

No....Reagan would be chiding you along with your allies Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer.  And that is the truth.

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #238 on: March 30, 2025, 03:31:33 pm »
You mean this article that I gave you?....

Let's review, shall we?


Sources of Zelensky’s Wealth
Even though Forbes reports that Zelensky’s net worth at just $20 million dollars,  .  .  .


So your story begins by admitting the existence of a Forbes article that investigated Zelenskiy's net worth - an article that has since been provided to you to show their research.  An article that to this day Forbes continues to stand by.  It details property sold along with other 2019 divestments.


there are many conflicting reports about his actual net worth. For instance, as per the leaked Pandora Papers, Zelensky and his associates have many offshore accounts in millions of dollars.


Here is Zelenskiy's lone 'offshore' [sic] account.  Less than €400k in Union Bancaire Privee in Zurich.  You can translate it yourself since you need clearly practice in doing actual research:

Інша юридична особа
Юридична особа, зареєстрована за кордоном
Найменування (англійською): UNION BANCAIRE PRIVEE, UBP SA
Найменування (українською): ЮНІОН БАНКАІРЕ ПРІВЕЕ, ЮБП СА
Ідентифікаційний код: [Не відомо]
Місцезнаходження (англійською): Bahnhofstrasse 1,CH-8022, Zurich
Місцезнаходження (українською): Банхофштрассе 1. СЧ -8022, Цюріх
Кошти, розміщені на банківських рахунках
Розмір: 350272
Валюта: EUR
Власність
Прізвище: Зеленський
Ім'я: Володимир
По батькові (за наявності):Олександрович

https://public.nazk.gov.ua/documents/d8f5e4ed-0d3f-4781-8988-158d6aa0ae83#heading-11:~:text=entity%20registered%20abroad-,Name%20(in%20English)%3A%20UNION%20BANCAIRE%20PRIVEE%2C%20UBP%20SA,-Name%20(in%20Ukrainian


.  .  .  there are many conflicting reports about his actual net worth.  .  .


None of which you cited.  And neither did your 'source' [sic].


For instance, as per the leaked Pandora Papers, Zelensky and his associates have many offshore accounts in millions of dollars.


Key phrase - "and his associates".  A rather pathetic form of non-rational persuasion.  (See logical fallacies:  Association fallacy).


As per an estimate, the money in these offshore accounts exceeds $100 million.


"An estimate"?  Seriously?  This is what you have?  Not even Pandora's estimate.  But only "An estimate".

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So where did this estimate come from?  Vladimir Solovyov?


As per a couple of other websites, Zelensky’s net worth is over $590 million dollars and has over $10 million in monthly income.


Can you please post those websites so that we can examine the basis of those claims?  Because you damn well know that in TBR world, providing citations such as "As per a couple of other websites" as the evidentiary basis for proving that Zelenskiy's net worth sits near $600 million simply doesn't cut it.   


The Pandora Papers revealed that Zelenskyy and his chief aide and the head of the Security Service of Ukraine Ivan Bakanov operated a network of offshore companies in the British Virgin Islands, Cyprus, and Belize.


That was in 2012.  Zelenskiy divested in 2019 before taking office.


Zelensky-Net-Worth
Zelensky’s Net Worth Growth

Net Worth in 2022   $610 million
Net Worth in 2021   $570 million
Net Worth in 2020   $420 million
Net Worth in 2019   $190 million
Net Worth in 2018   $110 million


Again, where did these numbers come from?  They certainly didn't come directly from the Pandora Papers.

And again, where is the grift?  It's been over three years now.  Let's see your hand.  Show us the grift, @catfish1957
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #239 on: March 30, 2025, 03:32:48 pm »
Russia has nukes aimed at us. Therefore Russia should be treated as an enemy. Reagan would agree.

I never discounted that aspect, or ever said that Russia was not our enemy. 

But launching nukes......wouldn't that be a bigger risk with our intervention or further escalation?
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #240 on: March 30, 2025, 03:35:48 pm »
Questioning my conservative credentials?

No.  Just your integrity.
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« Reply #241 on: March 30, 2025, 03:37:35 pm »
Let's review, shall we?


So your story begins by admitting the existence of a Forbes article that investigated Zelenskiy's net worth - an article that has since been provided to you to show their research.  An article that to this day Forbes continues to stand by.  It details property sold along with other 2019 divestments.


Here is Zelenskiy's lone 'offshore' [sic] account.  Less than €400k in Union Bancaire Privee in Zurich.  You can translate it yourself since you need clearly practice in doing actual research:

Інша юридична особа
Юридична особа, зареєстрована за кордоном
Найменування (англійською): UNION BANCAIRE PRIVEE, UBP SA
Найменування (українською): ЮНІОН БАНКАІРЕ ПРІВЕЕ, ЮБП СА
Ідентифікаційний код: [Не відомо]
Місцезнаходження (англійською): Bahnhofstrasse 1,CH-8022, Zurich
Місцезнаходження (українською): Банхофштрассе 1. СЧ -8022, Цюріх
Кошти, розміщені на банківських рахунках
Розмір: 350272
Валюта: EUR
Власність
Прізвище: Зеленський
Ім'я: Володимир
По батькові (за наявності):Олександрович

https://public.nazk.gov.ua/documents/d8f5e4ed-0d3f-4781-8988-158d6aa0ae83#heading-11:~:text=entity%20registered%20abroad-,Name%20(in%20English)%3A%20UNION%20BANCAIRE%20PRIVEE%2C%20UBP%20SA,-Name%20(in%20Ukrainian


None of which you cited.  And neither did your 'source' [sic].


Key phrase - "and his associates".  A rather pathetic form of non-rational persuasion.  (See logical fallacies:  Association fallacy).


"An estimate"?  Seriously?  This is what you have?  Not even Pandora's estimate.  But only "An estimate".

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So where did this estimate come from?  Vladimir Solovyov?


Can you please post those websites so that we can examine the basis of those claims?  Because you damn well know that in TBR world, providing citations such as "As per a couple of other websites" as the evidentiary basis for proving that Zelenskiy's net worth sits near $600 million simply doesn't cut it.   


That was in 2012.  Zelenskiy divested in 2019 before taking office.


Again, where did these numbers come from?  They certainly didn't come directly from the Pandora Papers.

And again, where is the grift?  It's been over three years now.  Let's see your hand.  Show us the grift, @catfish1957

My citation was from a site that covers the net worth of many famous and influential people.  Its up to believe what every you want.  But I'll add...
So, when you see financial accounts on the books of the Biden family, you believe it? 

I am through with you silly Zellinsky kneepadders.  All I need to know is that your are allied with the likes of Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi.

Own it.
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« Reply #242 on: March 30, 2025, 03:49:29 pm »
My citation was from a site that covers the net worth of many famous and influential people.  Its up to believe what every you want.  But I'll add...
So, when you see financial accounts on the books of the Biden family, you believe it? 

I am through with you silly Zellinsky kneepadders.  All I need to know is that your are allied with the likes of Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi.

Own it.

Lost in all of this, is that the fact that  true more imminent threat are the Chicoms. 

Don't seem to sense much concern from the Uke support crowd around them.  :pondering:
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« Reply #243 on: March 30, 2025, 03:58:56 pm »
My citation was from a site that covers the net worth of many famous and influential people.

And here are your exact words:  "Can't vouch for this site"


Its up to believe what every you want.

It's up to me to determine a basis for my belief - a basis that includes evidence and citations, none of which can be found in your 'source' [sic] (which you can't vouch for).


But I'll add...
So, when you see financial accounts on the books of the Biden family, you believe it?

Seeing financial accounts on the books of the Biden family is certainly more than you have offered on Zelenskiy (which for the last three years has been zero).


I am through with you silly Zellinsky kneepadders.

I am through with you repeatedly accusing Zelenskiy of being a grifter and then placing the burden of proof on others to show that he isn't.  If I wanted to see arguments like that, I would go to DU.


All I need to know is that your are allied with the likes of Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi.

Uh, no.  There are five previous threads that prove me to be a very harsh critic of Biden/Shumer/Pelosi's policies on Zelenskiy.  But then you knew that already.  Yet here you are again pushing a false narrative.

Why not just simply own up to the fact that you can't find a single example of Zelenskiy grift, and that maybe your emotions got the best of you.  Acknowledge your mistake and move on.
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« Reply #244 on: March 30, 2025, 04:02:41 pm »
And here are your exact words:  "Can't vouch for this site"


It's up to me to determine a basis for my belief - a basis that includes evidence and citations, none of which can be found in your 'source' [sic] (which you can't vouch for).


Seeing financial accounts on the books of the Biden family is certainly more than you have offered on Zelenskiy (which for the last three years has been zero).


I am through with you repeatedly accusing Zelenskiy of being a grifter and then placing the burden of proof on others to show that he isn't.  If I wanted to see arguments like that, I would go to DU.


Uh, no.  There are five previous threads that prove me to be a very harsh critic of Biden/Shumer/Pelosi's policies on Zelenskiy.  But then you knew that already.  Yet here you are again pushing a false narrative.

Why not just simply own up to the fact that you can't find a single example of Zelenskiy grift, and that maybe your emotions got the best of you.  Acknowledge your mistake and move on.

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« Reply #245 on: March 30, 2025, 04:06:30 pm »
Trump says he’s ‘very angry’ and ‘pissed off’ at Putin during an NBC News interview

Trump said in an early-morning phone call that if he believes Russia is at fault for a ceasefire not being reached with Ukraine, he may impose secondary tariffs on Russian oil.

Kristen Welker and Megan Lebowitz  |  March 30, 2025  |  9:47 AM EDT


WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said he was “very angry” and “pissed off” when Russian President Vladimir Putin criticized the credibility of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s leadership, adding that the comments were “not going in the right location.”

Agence France-Presse reported that Putin on Friday called for a transitional government to be put in place in Ukraine, which could effectively push out Zelenskyy.

“If Russia and I are unable to make a deal on stopping the bloodshed in Ukraine, and if I think it was Russia’s fault — which it might not be — but if I think it was Russia’s fault, I am going to put secondary tariffs on oil, on all oil coming out of Russia,” Trump said in an early-morning phone call with NBC News on Sunday.

“That would be that if you buy oil from Russia, you can’t do business in the United States,” Trump said. “There will be a 25% tariff on all oil, a 25- to 50-point tariff on all oil.”

The president’s comments come after he had previously criticized Zelenskyy  .  .  .

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-angry-putin-zelenskyy-iran-sanctions-rcna198729
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« Reply #246 on: March 30, 2025, 04:11:18 pm »
Russia Strikes Gas Facilities in Overnight Attack on Ukraine, Disregarding Ceasefire Agreement

Amira Barkhush  |  Mar 28, 2025  |  13:30


During a large-scale overnight attack on March 28, Russian forces damaged gas production facilities belonging to Ukraine’s state energy company Naftogaz, the company reported on March 28 on its website.

This marks the 18th combined attack on Naftogaz Group infrastructure since the start of the full-scale war and the eighth such incident in 2025 alone.

Naftogaz specialists are currently assessing the damage and working to mitigate the consequences of the strike. According to the company, no injuries were reported as a result of the shelling.

“This new strike is not just an attack on our infrastructure — it’s an attempt to undermine the country’s energy stability. Our specialists are already working to assess the damage and address the consequences. Restoration will begin immediately to ensure uninterrupted gas supply, ‘ the company wrote.

On March 28, Russia launched a large-scale UAV strike on industrial zones in Poltava, damaging civilian and energy infrastructure at six sites.  .  .  .

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« Reply #247 on: March 30, 2025, 05:43:27 pm »
Lost in all of this, is that the fact that  true more imminent threat are the Chicoms. 

Don't seem to sense much concern from the Uke support crowd around them.  :pondering:

China is a different thread - this thread is about the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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« Reply #248 on: March 30, 2025, 05:49:33 pm »
Reporting From Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/@RFU/videos

Excerpts from the video transcript.
[ It's on Now! Ukrainians Surge Forward and Take Ground!  Fresh APC's Arrive! ]

Today [ Mar 30, 8 pm ], there are a lot of interesting updates from the Kupiansk direction ... in the northern Kupiansk sector, Ukrainian forces are deploying their latest reinforcements, combining mobility and firepower to reshape the battlefield. With fresh deliveries of Bucephalus APC's, they tighten the noose around a key Russian foothold, setting the stage for a decisive turn in the fight along the Oskil River. Ukraine aims to eliminate the Russian bridgehead west of the Oskil River and push Russian forces back from Kupiansk, neutralizing the combined threat to the town. Kupiansk serves as a critical logistics hub and a key crossing point supporting Ukraine’s eastern bridgehead, since the 2022 Kharkiv counteroffensive.

... the Ukrainian high command reinforced the 14th Mechanized Brigade, veterans of the Kharkiv counteroffensive, with BTR-4E Bucephalus armored personnel carriers, among Ukraine’s best domestically produced armored vehicles. With a top speed of 110 km per hour, and amphibious capabilities, the BTR-4E is ideal for combat along the Oskil riverbank's difficult terrain. It enables rapid advances, maneuverability across marshes and muddy terrain, and safe river crossings, ensuring Ukrainian forces can outmaneuver and overwhelm Russian positions. The BTR-4E is armed with a 30mm autocannon, enabling it to suppress Russian infantry while transporting up to 8 fully equipped soldiers. Its armor protects against small arms fire, grenades, and even RPG's, making it ideal for assault operations in this sector.

Furthermore, Ukrainian intelligence reports that Russians have only around 500 soldiers along the entirety of the 20 km foothold across the river, amounting to just 25 soldiers per km of the frontline. This allowed the Ukrainian Bucephalus vehicles to drive through the weakest and most vulnerable points of the Russian defenses to dismount their infantry squads. Subsequently, the Ukrainian fighters used these gaps to go around the main Russian defenses, moving through cover, and then ambushing the Russians from behind, ultimately eliminating them. This allowed the Ukrainian forces to retake several key positions near the settlements of Fyholivka and Zapadne, effectively containing the Russians to a handful of tree lines, while they continued to press on with their assaults.

Overall, the Ukrainians successfully exploited the weaknesses in the Russian Oskil river bridgehead, utilizing high-quality, domestically produced equipment, with the standout being the BTR-4E Bucephalus armored personnel carriers, providing an effective combination of firepower, protection, and mobility.  Further intensification of the Ukrainian mechanized assaults in this area, against the overstretched Russian positions, will allow them to eliminate the Russian bridgehead for as long as the Russians are unable to reinforce their forces there. Additionally, as the main Russian supply hub in Svatove is approximately 75 km away from their efforts here, Russians are unlikely to receive the rapid reinforcements they need to stabilize the front and continue their offensive, as Ukrainians will continue to dismantle the Russian effort and push them back into the river.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTR-4


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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #249 on: March 30, 2025, 07:18:13 pm »
Lost in all of this, is that the fact that  true more imminent threat are the Chicoms. 

Don't seem to sense much concern from the Uke support crowd around them.  :pondering:


And the Russians are allied with the Chicoms.

And lost in this is that Russia invaded a sovereign country. Dislike for Z doesn't change that.