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UK and France to Craft a ‘Coalition of the Willing’ Ukraine Peace Plan to Present to Trump, Says PM Starmer

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UK Prime Minister Sir Kier Starmer said ahead of a Lancaster House summit on Sunday that Britain and France will work to craft a Ukraine ceasefire deal that would be presented to the United States.

Echoing the language of former U.S. President George W. Bush, the Labour Party leader said that London and Paris will seek to build a “coalition of the willing” to enforce a peace in Ukraine.

The UK and France have already committed to sending troops into the former Eastern bloc nation to act as peacekeepers, but other European nations, notably Italy, Germany, and Poland, have so far shot down the idea.

“We’ve got to find those countries in Europe that are prepared to be a bit more forward-leaning,” Prime Minister Starmer said per The Telegraph.

“I’m not criticising anyone here, but rather than move at the pace of every single member, every single country in Europe, which would in the end be quite a slow pace, I do think we’ve got to probably get to a coalition of the willing now.”

The British leader said that he would work with French President Emmanuel Macron to craft a “plan” for peace in Ukraine that they would present to the United States.

Attempting to throw his weight around, President Macron appeared to demand that Europeans be given a voice at the negotiating table, saying per The Times: “If the United States settled a ceasefire solely with Russia, it would breach international law. For a permanent member of the UN Security Council, that would be a profound break.

“If they settled an accord with Russia without the Europeans at the table … that would be a rupture at the heart of the Atlantic alliance… We are in favour of peace but not of a capitulation that takes place against the backdrop of a rout or abandonment of the Ukrainians,” he added.

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While Trump retracts his balls, freedom loving europe finally drops theirs.

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While Trump retracts his balls, freedom loving europe finally drops theirs.

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While Trump retracts his balls, freedom loving europe finally drops theirs.

I fully understand the "Grow A Pair" saying.  It's the same one that the Neocons got us into on the WOT in Iraq and Afghanistan. How did that work out for us?   Don't get me wrong, I supported it as it unfolded, and now regret every showing an ounce of support for "W".

I hope you understand the anecdotal  definition of "insanity".  Because unless we stay the course with Trump, we are going to get it slapped back in our face in spades.
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Hmmmm....
Lemmmeeeesseeee here...

The title reads:
"UK and France to Craft a ‘Coalition of the Willing’ Ukraine Peace Plan to Present to Trump..."

Ummmm....
Why would they "present" their plan to Mr. Trump...?

Why not present it to both little z and putin instead...?

Won't THEIR signatures need to be on it...?
Aren't THEY the ones who would have to agree to it...?

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I am so happy both my son and husband has retired from the Army...I would be losing my mind right now.. :crying:

My husband's nephew is due to retire soon from the Army after 25 years; it's time.
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It's the same one that the Neocons got us into on the WOT in Iraq and Afghanistan. How did that work out for us? 

Iraq was bullshit I agree.  Afghanistan was justified but we didnt have enought support from the natives AND got distracted by Iraq.

No one is demanding the US get involved in combat.  I dont want that either.  We dont have to.  In Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam, the people we were supposedly trying to help didnt want to help themselves to the level that was required.  Ukraine is a different story. 

Yes insanity.  So lets try something different:  How about supply Ukraine with enough weapons to actually WIN instead of just enough to not LOSE.  And how about putting the fianancial screws even more tightly on Russia

Is the US now no longer the leader of the free world?  Is that what you want?  Does MAGA mean America first and bleep everybody else?  You realize if we ever need help from other countries God forbid, These countries can say bleep you right back?  If China gets belligerent with us, will these countries back us up?  Dont count on it.  Myopic, self centered, greedy is Trump.  Doesnt Vance know his Bible:  To whom much is given, much is expected?  I do think there are limits to what we can do.  But refusing to call Putin a dictator, but calling Z one, claiming Ukraine started the war, suggesting Russia should keep what they are trying to steal, refusing to say Russia is an aggressor....all to make a few bucks in a "deal"  is something I would expect out of the Roman  Empire, not the USA

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It's the same one that the Neocons got us into on the WOT in Iraq and Afghanistan. How did that work out for us? 

Iraq was bullshit I agree.  Afghanistan was justified but we didnt have enought support from the natives AND got distracted by Iraq.

No one is demanding the US get involved in combat.  I dont want that either.  We dont have to.  In Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam, the people we were supposedly trying to help didnt want to help themselves to the level that was required.  Ukraine is a different story. 

Yes insanity.  So lets try something different:  How about supply Ukraine with enough weapons to actually WIN instead of just enough to not LOSE.  And how about putting the fianancial screws even more tightly on Russia

Is the US now no longer the leader of the free world?  Is that what you want?  Does MAGA mean America first and bleep everybody else?  You realize if we ever need help from other countries God forbid, These countries can say bleep you right back?  If China gets belligerent with us, will these countries back us up?  Dont count on it.  Myopic, self centered, greedy is Trump.  Doesnt Vance know his Bible:  To whom much is given, much is expected?  I do think there are limits to what we can do.  But refusing to call Putin a dictator, but calling Z one, claiming Ukraine started the war, suggesting Russia should keep what they are trying to steal, refusing to say Russia is an aggressor....all to make a few bucks in a "deal"  is something I would expect out of the Roman  Empire, not the USA

You have things a little backasswards, but no worries.  He's made a deal with the UK and other EU nations.  We've spent BILLIONS.  Let them support the Ukrainian grifter.

The best to hopefully come out of all  of this is that the American people see Z for the grifter he is and the US gets the heck out of NATO.

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UK and France to Craft a ‘Coalition of the Willing’ Ukraine Peace Plan to Present to Trump, Says PM Starmer

UK Prime Minister Sir Kier Starmer said ahead of a Lancaster House summit on Sunday that Britain and France will work to craft a Ukraine ceasefire deal that would be presented to the United States.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/03/02/britain-and-france-to-craft-a-coalition-of-the-willing-ukraine-ceasefire-plan-to-present-to-trump/

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Is the US now no longer the leader of the free world?  Is that what you want?  Does MAGA mean America first and bleep everybody else?  You realize if we ever need help from other countries God forbid, These countries can say bleep you right back?  If China gets belligerent with us, will these countries back us up?  Dont count on it.  Myopic, self centered, greedy is Trump.  Doesnt Vance know his Bible:  To whom much is given, much is expected?  I do think there are limits to what we can do.  But refusing to call Putin a dictator, but calling Z one, claiming Ukraine started the war, suggesting Russia should keep what they are trying to steal, refusing to say Russia is an aggressor....all to make a few bucks in a "deal"  is something I would expect out of the Roman  Empire, not the USA

You made a lot of good points...but say if China is belligerent with the US don't the other countries know they would be next and it would be in their interest to help us out.
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While Trump retracts his balls, freedom loving europe finally drops theirs.

Yup.  Pretty scary that Europeans are more interested in preserving freedom than is the President of the United States.

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Is the US now no longer the leader of the free world?

How is being Europe's bi!ch the same as being the "leader of the free world"?

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Does MAGA mean America first and bleep everybody else?

Nope.  "Make America Great Again" means exactly what it says --- and "America First" is the pathway.

A great America is economically, militarily, spiritually, and socially strong. A great America is independent --- beholden to no one and hitched to no other star or captive to any threat.

A great America is able to act on her own values and interests ---- able to decline an invitation to war when the battle does not rise to the level of our blood and treasure; able to win the battle when it does.    *This* is global leadership.





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You made a lot of good points...but say if China is belligerent with the US don't the other countries know they would be next and it would be in their interest to help us out.
The way the world is moving, it will be China vs their opponents.

Little doubt that the US and Europe will be their opponents.  Best to have also have Russia in the opponent category to combat China, but it may be 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' for them
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Is the US now no longer the leader of the free world?  Is that what you want?  Does MAGA mean America first and bleep everybody else?  You realize if we ever need help from other countries God forbid, These countries can say bleep you right back?  If China gets belligerent with us, will these countries back us up?  Dont count on it.  Myopic, self centered, greedy is Trump.  Doesnt Vance know his Bible:  To whom much is given, much is expected?  I do think there are limits to what we can do.  But refusing to call Putin a dictator, but calling Z one, claiming Ukraine started the war, suggesting Russia should keep what they are trying to steal, refusing to say Russia is an aggressor....all to make a few bucks in a "deal"  is something I would expect out of the Roman  Empire, not the USA
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It's the same one that the Neocons got us into on the WOT in Iraq and Afghanistan. How did that work out for us? 

Iraq was bullshit I agree.  Afghanistan was justified but we didnt have enought support from the natives AND got distracted by Iraq.

No one is demanding the US get involved in combat.  I dont want that either.  We dont have to.  In Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam, the people we were supposedly trying to help didnt want to help themselves to the level that was required.  Ukraine is a different story. 

Yes insanity.  So lets try something different:  How about supply Ukraine with enough weapons to actually WIN instead of just enough to not LOSE.  And how about putting the fianancial screws even more tightly on Russia

Is the US now no longer the leader of the free world?  Is that what you want?  Does MAGA mean America first and bleep everybody else?  You realize if we ever need help from other countries God forbid, These countries can say bleep you right back?  If China gets belligerent with us, will these countries back us up?  Dont count on it.  Myopic, self centered, greedy is Trump.  Doesnt Vance know his Bible:  To whom much is given, much is expected?  I do think there are limits to what we can do.  But refusing to call Putin a dictator, but calling Z one, claiming Ukraine started the war, suggesting Russia should keep what they are trying to steal, refusing to say Russia is an aggressor....all to make a few bucks in a "deal"  is something I would expect out of the Roman  Empire, not the USA


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You made a lot of good points...but say if China is belligerent with the US don't the other countries know they would be next and it would be in their interest to help us out.

Nope.  The world doesn't work that way.  And that argument also cuts both ways, as I've been saying over and over again.
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The British leader said that he would work with French President Emmanuel Macron to craft a “plan” for peace in Ukraine that they would present to the United States.

“There is absolutely no way that the European nations without American support can provide any form of security guarantee for Ukraine.”

Polish President Andrzej Duda also joined the chorus in Europe calling for Zelensky to mend ties with Trump, saying Saturday: “You have to go back to the talk table, sit down to negotiate… If anyone is able to achieve an end to the war, then the United States has that potential, no one else.”

Europe is now openly begging for U.S. involvement in the 'peace process'. Everything Europe says they are going to do, is to be presented before Trump for approval. I honestly thought that Europe would welcome the opportunity to present themselves as an independent global military power. But the opposite has arisen, they are terrified of the idea.
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Polish President Andrzej Duda also joined the chorus in Europe calling for Zelensky to mend ties with Trump, saying Saturday: “You have to go back to the talk table, sit down to negotiate… If anyone is able to achieve an end to the war, then the United States has that potential, no one else.”
 

Zelenskyy has to listen to Poland.  They have the most to lose if there is war, and there are millions of Ukrainians in Poland who have worn out their welcome and need to go back home.

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Zelenskyy has to listen to Poland.  They have the most to lose if there is war, and there are millions of Ukrainians in Poland who have worn out their welcome and need to go back home.

You often don't make a lot of profound statements here, or make much sense.  But you are not wrong on Poland's problem. @dfwgator
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