JUST IN: President Trump and Vice President JD Vance excoriate President Zelensky during heated meet

[Canuck Conservative]

Ukraine's aggression

Huh?

You mean like "America's aggression" during WWII?

Formerly known as "fighting back after being attacked"

[DefiantMassRINO]

Trump's goal is peace.  Throwing more $$ at Z is only going to feed Ukraine's aggression.  Keep in mind that the Russian people are suffering as well.

1.) Putin does not give a damn about the Russian people nor his North Korean cannon fodder.
2.) Putin invaded, occupied, annexed, or supported insurgency in territory within Ukraine's 1991 borders.

Putin is the aggressor.  If they didn't want their refineries, navy, and supply depots blown up by Ukrainian drones, Putin shouldn't have attacked Ukrainian sovereignty in 2014 (Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk), and should not have invaded and occupied Ukraine 2022-Present.

If the Japanese didn't want Hiroshima and Nagasaki to get nuked, maybe the Japanese Empire should not have attacked Pearl Harbor and should not have occupied Wake Island, Guam, and the Philippines.

Agressors/Bullies never consider that their mark/victim will punch back.

[MeganC]

And that's the rub.....   Your hate has jaded your judgement.   I don't like Russia either, but that boogey man thing kind of went away 60 years ago.

And I am continued to be  flabberghasted that none of this concern is being pointed at the Chicoms...   Madness, I tell ya..

Russia murdered some fifteen to thirty million Ukrainians and now they're back to do it again.

'Hate' is the correct feeling for those who wish to conquer and exterminate others.

The Germans and the Japanese had to be curbstomped to put an end to their evil empires and it is abundantly obvious that Russia likewise will not end their wicked ways until their entire country is reduced to rubble.

[bilo]

your ilk are abandoning an ally, turning your back on Europe. What’s going to happen when you come calling for help when you want to deal with china?

Your actions today are going to get Japan, Australia etc to start shifting away from American dependence, Europe is going to stop buying American arms, other countries are going to stop believing American exceptionalism, the bricks movement is going to increase.

Trump has just bleep off 80 years of history. It’s making America weaker.

What you are failing to see is the post WWII globalist order is being done away with. The countries that have benefited the most from our willingness to sacrifice so that they would be protected from a potential expansion of the USSR no longer need to be protected. The USSR is gone and now it is long past time for these countries to stand on their own. Europe can protect itself if it wants. It's not our job.

Other than wanting to help a country that was wrongfully invaded what does Ukraine offer us? Greenland, Panama, and the 51st state are of greater importance to our interests.

If Ukraine doesn't even want to enter into a ceasefire to see if there is any possibility of a lasting peace that's their business, just don't ask us for anymore help. We have plenty of problems close to home we need to deal with.

[bilo]

That's a joke right?  You  are equating Marshall plan Trillions of $ with friendship? Europe, the past 80 years has behaved more like a high dollar hooker, than any friend.  You think they'd been our friend without the massive and constant payola?

I didn't think naivety was that strong in your portfolio, but I guess it is.

A perfect summation of why the arrogant attitude of the Europeans is so grating. Let them send their armies and money to Ukraine.

[mountaineer]

Bonchie
@bonchieredstate
This is a must-read from Marc Thiessen, WaPo columnist and big supporter of Ukraine.
What Zelensky did was insane, unnecessary, and inexplicable. The sooner people admit that instead of creating their own alter-universe, the sooner a possible fix will arise.
12:27 PM · Mar 3, 2025

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/02/zelensky-trump-ukraine-clash-vance/

[bilo]

Zelensky Says He Is Ready for a Redo with Trump After Oval Office Fiasco

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Sunday he is willing to return to the White House to discuss “serious issues” if invited despite the collapse of talks with President Donald Trump during a meeting intended to conclude in the signing of a minerals agreement on Friday.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/03/03/zelensky-says-he-is-ready-for-a-redo-with-trump-after-oval-office-fiasco/

I know Pres. Trump is more gracious than I would be, but I pray if we keep dealing with this guy it's only at a sub-cabinet level. He's made it clear he can't be trusted and he should never be allowed in the White House again.

[Bigun]

I know Pres. Trump is more gracious than I would be, but I pray if we keep dealing with this guy it's only at a sub-cabinet level. He's made it clear he can't be trusted and he should never be allowed in the White House again.

 

[GtHawk]

A perfect summation of why the arrogant attitude of the Europeans is so grating. Let them send their armies and money to Ukraine.

Well good luck with them sending money and armies to Ukraine, German’s  economy is weak and none of them have spent enough to increase either weapons or soldiers, so just like WWI and WWII they will need America to keep them in the game. And if England and France sen their young men into the Ukraine war you can bet the muzzies won’t be going. I watched a YouTube of a young reporter asking men on the street in England if they would go to Ukraine if England sent soldiers and all the the ‘migrants’ she asked said that England wasn’t their country and they would just go home….to whatever toilet they came from.

[Bigun]

Well good luck with them sending money and armies to Ukraine, German’s  economy is weak and none of them have spent enough to increase either weapons or soldiers, so just like WWI and WWII they will need America to keep them in the game. And if England and France sen their young men into the Ukraine war you can bet the muzzies won’t be going. I watched a YouTube of a young reporter asking men on the street in England if they would go to Ukraine if England sent soldiers and all the the ‘migrants’ she asked said that England wasn’t their country and they would just go home….to whatever toilet they came from.

You mean to say that the residents of Londonistan and Parisistan aren't full of willing recruits?

 

[bilo]

Well good luck with them sending money and armies to Ukraine, German’s  economy is weak and none of them have spent enough to increase either weapons or soldiers, so just like WWI and WWII they will need America to keep them in the game. And if England and France sen their young men into the Ukraine war you can bet the muzzies won’t be going. I watched a YouTube of a young reporter asking men on the street in England if they would go to Ukraine if England sent soldiers and all the the ‘migrants’ she asked said that England wasn’t their country and they would just go home….to whatever toilet they came from.

Great points!

I only sort of feel bad for them (IOW, not really), but that's their problems. We can't carry them on our backs any longer. We are just getting started with a financial restructuring and need to focus on our people for a change. The Cold War is over.

[GtHawk]

You mean to say that the residents of Londonistan and Parisistan aren't full of willing recruits?

 

Oh they are loaded with willing recruits…..to murder the infidels after raping the women and children.

[Bigun]

Oh they are loaded with willing recruits…..to murder the infidels after raping the women and children.

Yeah! That's what I thought.

[jmyrlefuller]

Bonchie
@bonchieredstate
This is a must-read from Marc Thiessen, WaPo columnist and big supporter of Ukraine.
What Zelensky did was insane, unnecessary, and inexplicable. The sooner people admit that instead of creating their own alter-universe, the sooner a possible fix will arise.
12:27 PM · Mar 3, 2025

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/02/zelensky-trump-ukraine-clash-vance/

The fever pitch to which Zelensky worship has escalated on the left has practically turned into a fetish.

[libertybele]

I know Pres. Trump is more gracious than I would be, but I pray if we keep dealing with this guy it's only at a sub-cabinet level. He's made it clear he can't be trusted and he should never be allowed in the White House again.

I agree. Z has made it very clear that he can't be trusted, nor should he be allowed into the WH again.  Someone stated in here that he's become unhinged and I agree.

True or not, I listened to Hannity in the car on the way home, and this is Z's 3rd time that he was supposed to sign an agreement with the U.S.A. and backed out.

Time for him to go home and face the music.  He's created the catastrophe he now has on his hands and unfortunately, he's also created this catastrophe for his entire country.;

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Trump's not trapped in the 1940s; he is living and governing in this century against today's global threat.  That threat is not Rissia, it's China.

bingo. We have a winner.

My belief is the Chinese will take on its opponents eventually, that is the Western world of US and EU, and Russia will be on our side.

[bigheadfred]

bingo. We have a winner.

My belief is the Chinese will take on its opponents eventually, that is the Western world of US and EU, and Russia will be on our side.

Yep. China will take eastern Russia and be a bigger threat to Alaska than Russia ever was.

[Canuck Conservative]

and Russia will be on our side

Russia will never be on America's side, Russia is an enemy of the US.

The Trump Admin seem to have trouble seeing that.

[Bigun]

Russia will never be on America's side, Russia is an enemy of the US.

The Trump Admin seem to have trouble seeing that.

Russia, pre Soviet Union, was one of America's premier trading partners.

[Wingnut]

I'd partner with Russia before those slant-eyed ChiComs.  Those are the ones to worry about.

[mystery-ak]

President Trump pausing all US military aid to Ukraine following clash with Zelenskyy
The move follows a fiery meeting last week between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and President Donald Trump in the White House

By Louis Casiano Fox News
Published March 3, 2025 7:13pm EST

The Trump administration is pausing all aid to Ukraine, including weapons in transit or in Poland.

The pause comes days after a contentious meeting between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and President Donald Trump in the White House.

This story is breaking, please check back for updates.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-pauses-aid-ukraine-fiery-meeting-zelenskyy

[DB]

President Trump pausing all US military aid to Ukraine following clash with Zelenskyy
The move follows a fiery meeting last week between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and President Donald Trump in the White House

By Louis Casiano Fox News
Published March 3, 2025 7:13pm EST

The Trump administration is pausing all aid to Ukraine, including weapons in transit or in Poland.

The pause comes days after a contentious meeting between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and President Donald Trump in the White House.

This story is breaking, please check back for updates.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-pauses-aid-ukraine-fiery-meeting-zelenskyy

If Zelenskyy won't step down, this will provide some major incentive. He screwed up big time and has doubled down on it. He's got to go.

[bilo]

President Trump pausing all US military aid to Ukraine following clash with Zelenskyy
The move follows a fiery meeting last week between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and President Donald Trump in the White House

By Louis Casiano Fox News
Published March 3, 2025 7:13pm EST

The Trump administration is pausing all aid to Ukraine, including weapons in transit or in Poland.

The pause comes days after a contentious meeting between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and President Donald Trump in the White House.

This story is breaking, please check back for updates.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-pauses-aid-ukraine-fiery-meeting-zelenskyy

Now Zelenskyy is going to find out what kind of allies the EU nations really are, especially Britain.

[Bigun]

If Zelenskyy won't step down, this will provide some major incentive. He screwed up big time and has doubled down on it. He's got to go.

 

[jmyrlefuller]

Russia will never be on America's side, Russia is an enemy of the US.

The Trump Admin seem to have trouble seeing that.

Yeltsin seemed to disagree with that notion, but he's gone now.