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Thankfully, I can't think of one thing that I absolutely have to have to have that is from Europe. As this unfolds, we need to relook at our spending habits, as it is increasingly evident that Europe is not our friend.
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Probably no one, hence why that list is likely a pipe dream.

Zelensky's only hope (and no, I'm not going to indulge that stupid double-y thing he's doing) is to wait it out until Putin dies, presumably of natural causes. But that could be many years.
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Thankfully, I can't think of one thing that I absolutely have to have to have that is from Europe. As this unfolds, we need to relook at our spending habits, as it is increasingly evident that Europe is not our friend.
I think we no longer need Paris to design outlandish and ugly clothes for us.
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BREAKING: Ukrainian President Zelensky says he is ready to sign the minerals deal with US President Trump.

??? What ??? I thought he had cozied up with the UK??? IF this is true, hopefully Trump will think this one through before he sticks his toes into the quicksand.
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BREAKING: Ukrainian President Zelensky says he is ready to sign the minerals deal with US President Trump.
Treat him as if he is from Tropoja

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BREAKING: Ukrainian President Zelensky says he is ready to sign the minerals deal with US President Trump.

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Who's going to push that button before Putin?

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BREAKING: Ukrainian President Zelensky says he is ready to sign the minerals deal with US President Trump.

With all the lies and double dealing that Zelenskyy has done does anyone believe he's going to honor any agreement?

What about the 100 year deal Zelenskyy signed with Britain?
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https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1896297506864242694
I note that no mention of Russia in this feel-good deal making statement.  How in the hell are the Europeans alone bring peace without dealing with Russia, which is what Trump was doing?

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The summit in London was dedicated to Ukraine and our shared European future.

We feel strong support for Ukraine, for our people – both soldiers and civilians, and our independence. Together, we are working in Europe to establish a solid foundation for cooperation with the United States in pursuit of true peace and guaranteed security.

Europe’s unity is at an exceptionally high level, one that has not been seen in a long time.

We are discussing with our partners security guarantees and the conditions for a just peace for Ukraine. A series of important meetings and decisions are being prepared for the near future.


I am grateful to all our friends and partners for their efforts in bringing about a stable and guaranteed peace in Ukraine. Joint strength can protect our future.
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I didn't put a whole lot of trust in Z before and after the other day I don't trust him one iota.  None.  Notta. 

IMHO Trump would be wise to tell him, he's no longer interested.

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Zelensky sold the mineral rights to the UK and he played Trump to try to get more money out of the US but Trump found out according to Tony Shaffer.
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I note that no mention of Russia in this feel-good deal making statement.  How in the hell are the Europeans alone bring peace without dealing with Russia, which is what Trump was doing?

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The summit in London was dedicated to Ukraine and our shared European future.

We feel strong support for Ukraine, for our people – both soldiers and civilians, and our independence. Together, we are working in Europe to establish a solid foundation for cooperation with the United States in pursuit of true peace and guaranteed security.

Europe’s unity is at an exceptionally high level, one that has not been seen in a long time.

We are discussing with our partners security guarantees and the conditions for a just peace for Ukraine. A series of important meetings and decisions are being prepared for the near future.


I am grateful to all our friends and partners for their efforts in bringing about a stable and guaranteed peace in Ukraine. Joint strength can protect our future.

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The axis of Weasles are all in now.  UK, France, Germany. I wish you luck.

Hey if they are all in they don't need us. Call Putin and work out your deal.

Good luck.
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Hey if they are all in they don't need us. Call Putin and work out your deal.

Good luck.

This might have been Trumps plan all along.  To show Trump up they had to pledge big buck to show they have big Bolz. 

Lets see if the will really pony up with the Shillings, Marks and Francs
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Zelensky sold the mineral rights to the UK and he played Trump to try to get more money out of the US but Trump found out according to Tony Shaffer.

That would be duplicity of the first order.
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That would be duplicity of the first order.

If this is true Trump needs to have a presser and out them all...
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Zelensky sold the mineral rights to the UK and he played Trump to try to get more money out of the US but Trump found out according to Tony Shaffer.

I think he came to the U.S. and didn't get what he wanted and then the UK found out and made Z an offer.  However, I believe Z has found that the highest bidder so far was the U.S. and is now willing to sell some metals to the U.S. as well.

Z's a grifter, no doubts about it.  He's been lining his pockets and now all know his game, including Putin.  Blood is now going to be on his hands.

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Anyone who now thinks that Z is just trying to help the people of Ukraine and has no personal monetary gain in this game is an utter and complete fool!

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That would be duplicity of the first order.

The UK promised loans/support, but no mineral deals that I can find. Fake crap mixed in with truth is a toxic stew.

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The UK promised loans/support, but no mineral deals that I can find. Fake crap mixed in with truth is a toxic stew.

Yes, could be misinformation. However, I've not trusted Z for awhile and the way things went down in the meeting with Trump, and then the UK calling him, the thought did cross my  mind that either Z had another deal on the table or the UK made Z a deal and now t's not enough and still wants whatever he can get out of the U.S.

Coming to the US after telling Rubio  he'd sign documents and then backing out was a pretty bold move.  He could have signed the documents when Rubio was there, meaning that his visit was for show.

We'll see what Trump's next move is.

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Tony Shaffer to Newsmax: Trump, Ukraine in 'Battle of Dueling Narratives'

 Sandy Fitzgerald    |   Sunday, 02 March 2025 10:08 AM EST

The White House and Ukraine are involved in a "battle of dueling narratives" over Ukraine's minerals deal, considering that three days before President Donald Trump's inauguration, the British signed an agreement with Ukraine that includes rights to the resources, retired U.S. Army Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer told Newsmax Sunday.

"This is on the British U.K. website,"  Shaffer, the president of Project Sentinel, told Newsmax's "Wake Up America Weekend." "Ukraine and the U.K. signed a 100-year deal over security guarantees and economic development."

Shaffer said he believes the strong words toward Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy Friday in the Oval Office were the result of President Donald Trump and his team finding out "they were being played."

"We, the United States, are trying to be signed up to a deal that we provide security guarantees for an economic development deal that [British Prime Minister] Keir Starmer has already signed them up to do," said Shaffer. "So the first thing it has to do is people have to take a step back and be honest with what's really going on."

He added that he believes Trump was trying to play a "straight line deal" to sign an agreement on mineral rights, "knowing full well that the British had already signed on this three days before his inauguration."

This means that if the Europeans want the United States to continue helping them support Ukraine, "they're going to have to take a step back and start being honest with the United States about what's going on here."

The deal Ukraine signed with the U.K. commits the two sides to cooperate on defense, economic, and technology projects, including "supporting development of a Ukrainian critical minerals strategy and necessary regulatory structures required to support the maximization of benefits from Ukraine’s natural resources."

Meanwhile, Trump has been "very clear" on the Europeans' involvement in supporting Ukraine, said Shaffer.

"The other day when Keir Starmer was in the office, he asked the prime minister, Gee, can you guys beat the Russians on your own? This is all about them finally stepping up and taking responsibility for their own backyard," Shaffer said.

Shaffer also noted that Starmer has reportedly said that the agreements have been made between Ukraine and the U.K., but "'they're not really worth anything unless the United States shows up to make it all real.'"

"They're used to us showing up and paying everything," said Shaffer. "We're not going to do that now. It's not our job, not in our interest.

"President Trump wants peace. He's got a path to peace. But that requires the Europeans essentially take upon themselves responsibility. He said he has no problem with French peacekeepers in Ukraine. He has no problem with the British with their 3,000-man army at this point. If they want to do that, fine. But it's not our job to back them up."

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