JUST IN: President Trump and Vice President JD Vance excoriate President Zelensky during heated meet

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/RadioEuropes/status/1896211194362679418

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1896285093528043787

[Canuck Conservative]

if they get caught up in the hostilities

What "hostilities"? Western countries aren't planning on attacking anybody.

Wait ... are you saying Putin is going to attack and invade again? So you don't think he really wants he peace?

[mystery-ak]

Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
We have a huge problem on our hands.

NATO countries are now saying they'll bypass the U.S. and send their troops into Ukraine.

And then, if Russia attacks, they might invoke Article 5, which would basically start World War 3 by dragging in all of NATO and the U.S.

Bad things ahead if this keeps up. Bad things.

[Canuck Conservative]

Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh

And then, if Russia attacks

Why would Russia attack?

Didn't Putin say he wanted peace?

Guess he was lying to all of us.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/defense_civil25/status/1896252386437734585

[libertybele]

Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
We have a huge problem on our hands.

NATO countries are now saying they'll bypass the U.S. and send their troops into Ukraine.

And then, if Russia attacks, they might invoke Article 5, which would basically start World War 3 by dragging in all of NATO and the U.S.

Bad things ahead if this keeps up. Bad things.

No.  The best thing that the U.S. could do right now is to pull us out of NATO.  I can foresee Trump doing that.  Time to consult the Secy of Defense Hegseth and Secy of State Rubio and joint chiefs of staff.  I have a feeling Trump may have already done so.

[libertybele]

https://twitter.com/defense_civil25/status/1896252386437734585

 

[catfish1957]

What "hostilities"? Western countries aren't planning on attacking anybody.

Wait ... are you saying Putin is going to attack and invade again? So you don't think he really wants he peace?

????

HUh?  There are already Russian Troops in Ukraine.  Now add EU/NATO (and thank God, hopefully No US)   Peace Keepers there to mediate?  Nothing could go wrong there huh?

[Lando Lincoln]

Why would Russia attack?

Didn't Putin say he wanted peace?

Guess he was lying to all of us.

You may have missed it. If a NATO country has boots on the ground in Ukraine, there is the possibility, or probability, that NATO troops and Russian troops will be shooting at one another.

[catfish1957]

You may have missed it. If a NATO country has boots on the ground in Ukraine, there is the possibility, or probability, that NATO troops and Russian troops will be shooting at one another.

Thanks...  you said better than I did.

[Canuck Conservative]

If a NATO country has boots on the ground in Ukraine, there is the possibility, or probability, that NATO troops and Russian troops will be shooting at one another.

Again, how would the conflict start?

The Western troops are there to keep the peace, so they won't be shooting at Russians.

So, then you're predicting Russia will break the peace they claim to want, and start shooting at Western troops?

[catfish1957]

Again, how would the conflict start?

The Western troops are there to keep the peace, so they won't be shooting at Russians.

So, then you're predicting Russia will break the peace they claim to want, and start shooting at Western troops?

You aren't very old are you. Do conflicts like Korea, Bosnia, and ME among others ring a bell? 

[libertybele]

Why would Russia attack?

Didn't Putin say he wanted peace?

Guess he was lying to all of us.

??? Didn't Ukraine say they wanted peace?  Didn't Z state that he was coming to sign mineral rights documents?

Gee, I guess he's been lying to us.

The Russo-Ukraine wars and conflicts have been going on for decades.  Joe, Z and others made a bundle off of this war.  Z was given billions and billions of dollars not only from the U.S. but other countries.

Trump was absolutely 100% right in showing Z the door.  He realized Z truly didn't want peace, but more $$.

[Lando Lincoln]

Again, how would the conflict start?

…

With a bang. (That’s the best I’ve got.)

[libertybele]

Again, how would the conflict start?

The Western troops are there to keep the peace, so they won't be shooting at Russians.

So, then you're predicting Russia will break the peace they claim to want, and start shooting at Western troops?

Um .... the conflict has already started.  What Trump wanted to accomplish was some sort of remedy towards peace.  Z wanted more money.  The longer the conflict lasts the more money he can pocket. 

[Smokin Joe]

With a bang. (That’s the best I’ve got.)

With all the drones around, with a bang---and 'deniability'.

Would the Russians invent an incident??

Would Ukraine??

It seems no one is immune to that (Tonkin Gulf).

[catfish1957]

Um .... the conflict has already started.  What Trump wanted to accomplish was some sort of remedy towards peace.  Z wanted more money.  The longer the conflict lasts the more money he can pocket.

Becoming painstakingly evident that Z realizes that continuance of hostilities is more profitable than talking peace.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I pray Trump stands true to his word not to involve US troops...

What he just might do with the current EU attitude is he could significantly reduce American troops in Europe.  Let's see if the EU continues to treat us poorly then as it represents, besides a reduced military presence, would also be an enormous economic loss to those nations and is the first step toward the US leaving NATO.

[catfish1957]

Cut/pasted real time Grok (Twitter) summary of the past few hours in Europe.

UK Announces Support for Ukraine with Missiles and Military Presence
Last updated
42 minutes ago
European leaders convened in London for a summit aimed at supporting Ukraine amidst its ongoing conflict. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced significant military and financial commitments, including a £1.6 billion deal for 5,000 air defense missiles and the readiness to deploy UK troops and aircraft to defend a peace deal in Ukraine. The summit emphasized continued military aid and economic pressure on Russia, with a focus on ensuring Ukraine's sovereignty and security.
This story is a summary of posts on X and may evolve over time. Grok can make mistakes, verify its outputs.

[bigheadfred]

With all the drones around, with a bang---and 'deniability'.

Would the Russians invent an incident??

Would Ukraine??

It seems no one is immune to that (Tonkin Gulf).

See the Shelling of Mainila

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/LangmanVince/status/1896191530446237717

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Cut/pasted real time Grok (Twitter) summary of the past few hours in Europe.

UK Announces Support for Ukraine with Missiles and Military Presence
Last updated
42 minutes ago
European leaders convened in London for a summit aimed at supporting Ukraine amidst its ongoing conflict. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced significant military and financial commitments, including a £1.6 billion deal for 5,000 air defense missiles and the readiness to deploy UK troops and aircraft to defend a peace deal in Ukraine. The summit emphasized continued military aid and economic pressure on Russia, with a focus on ensuring Ukraine's sovereignty and security.
This story is a summary of posts on X and may evolve over time. Grok can make mistakes, verify its outputs.

Just remember that the deal from the UK was a LOAN, not a grant, so the UK essentially wants a payback, just like Trump was proposing.

[catfish1957]

Just remember that the deal from the UK was a LOAN, not a grant, so the UK essentially wants a payback, just like Trump was proposing.

I know...  Z was playing us like a MLB player does for the best free agent deal.  There is no problem with that, except the  difference is that Z supposedly had a hand shake agreement in hand with us, and then pulled the rug from underneath us.

Hope the UK understands that  he could do the same to them. 

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/1896267384153161880

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1896252837136564316

[DB]

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1896252837136564316

When did Canada become European???

[catfish1957]

https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/1896267384153161880

I'm always a little skeptical of anything Alex Jones puts out there, but if this is true, it's the best ad campaign yet for us to immediately withdraw from NATO.

[catfish1957]

When did Canada become European???

He probably served coffee.   Eh?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

He probably served coffee.   Eh?

Furnished the cigars he got from his fatherland.

[libertybele]

I'm always a little skeptical of anything Alex Jones puts out there, but if this is true, it's the best ad campaign yet for us to immediately withdraw from NATO.

Absolutely.

[bilo]

Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
We have a huge problem on our hands.

NATO countries are now saying they'll bypass the U.S. and send their troops into Ukraine.

And then, if Russia attacks, they might invoke Article 5, which would basically start World War 3 by dragging in all of NATO and the U.S.

Bad things ahead if this keeps up. Bad things.

Not to worry. Pres. Trump is not going to get the USA mixed up in a never ending war. We are not sending troops to the border of Russia.

It's more likely that we are going to see our troops pulled from Europe and an end of our membership in NATO. Not to long ago that idea was considered crazy, but now a very conventional  Senator, Mike Lee is suggesting that's what we should do.

We are watching the winding down of the post WWII globalist order and the emergence of a Nationalist centered, or hemispheric, order. I'm happy to see this. The globalist order was maintained at the expense of American citizens. Lets focus on getting our fiscal house in order and improving the lives of our citizens. The countries who seem to be squawking the most are those that are dependent on the USA for their lifestyle, to heck with them.

[bilo]

When did Canada become European???

When they realized the USA would not continue giving them hundreds of Billions of dollars every year and will be charging tariffs on their goods.

[libertybele]

When they realized the USA would not continue giving them hundreds of Billions of dollars every year and will be charging tariffs on their goods.

Truth be known, I think Z's snub was an excuse for EU and Canada to snub the U.S. because of the pending tariffs.

However, it needs to happen.  The U.S. can't continue to keep the printing presses rolling and expect to survive.

[libertybele]

Not to worry. Pres. Trump is not going to get the USA mixed up in a never ending war. We are not sending troops to the border of Russia.

It's more likely that we are going to see our troops pulled from Europe and an end of our membership in NATO. Not to long ago that idea was considered crazy, but now a very conventional  Senator, Mike Lee is suggesting that's what we should do.

We are watching the winding down of the post WWII globalist order and the emergence of a Nationalist centered, or hemispheric, order. I'm happy to see this. The globalist order was maintained at the expense of American citizens. Lets focus on getting our fiscal house in order and improving the lives of our citizens. The countries who seem to be squawking the most are those that are dependent on the USA for their lifestyle, to heck with them.

You are likely correct.

[catfish1957]

Truth be known, I think Z's snub was an excuse for EU and Canada to snub the U.S. because of the pending tariffs.

However, it needs to happen.  The U.S. can't continue to keep the printing presses rolling and expect to survive.

Thankfully, I can't think of one thing that I absolutely have to have to have that is from Europe. As this unfolds, we need to relook at our spending habits, as it is increasingly evident that Europe is not our friend. 

[bilo]

Truth be known, I think Z's snub was an excuse for EU and Canada to snub the U.S. because of the pending tariffs.

However, it needs to happen. The U.S. can't continue to keep the printing presses rolling and expect to survive.

I think that's a part of it.

If you notice the "new tough Europe" that is putting together a "peace" plan always include the need for USA security guarantees. Guess what, we aren't going to do it.

Pres. Trump came up with a brilliant idea to get a ceasefire and a good business deal done. I suspect he was also proposing similar incentives to Putin. It might have worked, Europe sticking their nose in pretty much guarantees we will probably never know. I feel bad for the Ukrainian people, but their war is not our fight.

[jmyrlefuller]

We must have been watching different events because the one I saw had him escorted out without his dinner or hotel room.

Remember when Xi locked George W. Bush into that room in Beijing?

Surely there is a prison dungeon somewhere in that White House where that grifter Zelensky can be held until the Ukrainians replace him with someone who will actually know how to handle the Russian problem in ways that don't involve begging for money and cosplaying in fatigues everywhere he goes.

The first three words that conman should've heard when he walked in were "You're under arrest."

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/defense_civil25/status/1896257089195987325

[jmyrlefuller]

https://twitter.com/defense_civil25/status/1896257089195987325

The only way that happens is if the Kremlin disappears under a mushroom cloud.

[bilo]

Thankfully, I can't think of one thing that I absolutely have to have to have that is from Europe. As this unfolds, we need to relook at our spending habits, as it is increasingly evident that Europe is not our friend.

I think you are right. They only "tolerate" the USA as long as they can take advantage of us. They certainly have no right to dictate to us what we should or shouldn't do.

[libertybele]

Thankfully, I can't think of one thing that I absolutely have to have to have that is from Europe. As this unfolds, we need to relook at our spending habits, as it is increasingly evident that Europe is not our friend.

Just another consideration with EU; they've become 'less friendly' over the years and not only that but there is concern for their growing Muslim population (concern for the U.S. now as well).

The number of Muslims in European countries is estimated at 45 million, or 6% of the total population. In 2023, 10% of the adult population in France identified as Muslim, making Islam the second most practiced religion in the country.

Islam in Europe

95–100%   Azerbaijan Turkey
10–20%   France Georgia Montenegro Russia
5–10%   Austria Bulgaria Sweden Belgium Germany Greece Liechtenstein Netherlands Switzerland United Kingdom Norway Denmark
4–5%   Italy Serbia
2–4%   Luxembourg Malta Slovenia Spain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_France

[catfish1957]

https://twitter.com/defense_civil25/status/1896257089195987325

Well...  Zellgrift's earlier gig was a comic.  I'd say this set "bombed"

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/defense_civil25/status/1895937371377701343

[catfish1957]

https://twitter.com/defense_civil25/status/1895937371377701343

 


And I would buy a 100 national prime time spots giving Z's just recent speech that US troops must die.

Then  have a congressional vote on a NATO exit.

[libertybele]

Well...  Zellgrift's earlier gig was a comic.  I'd say this set "bombed"

IF he thinks he's going to get Putin to budge because he's now backed by NATO countries, I think Z is in for a surprise. The threat of Ukraine being accepted into NATO was supposedly one spark that was set under Putin encouraging him to up the attacks on Ukraine.  IMHO  Z just invited Putin to WWIII. Russia may very well now use nukes to defend itself; especially if Putin feels he's backed into a corner.

Z needs to go home and deal with the people of Ukraine -- what he's preaching the Ukranians may not be buying.

[libertybele]

The only way that happens is if the Kremlin disappears under a mushroom cloud.

Who's going to push that button before Putin?

[bilo]

https://twitter.com/defense_civil25/status/1895937371377701343

I can see this sentiment growing.

Why should we protect Europe. The cold war is over. They can stand on their own.

[Smokin Joe]

When did Canada become European???

In some ways, it never quit.

[bigheadfred]

 


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