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if they get caught up in the hostilities

What "hostilities"? Western countries aren't planning on attacking anybody.

Wait ... are you saying Putin is going to attack and invade again? So you don't think he really wants he peace?

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We have a huge problem on our hands.

NATO countries are now saying they'll bypass the U.S. and send their troops into Ukraine.

And then, if Russia attacks, they might invoke Article 5, which would basically start World War 3 by dragging in all of NATO and the U.S.

Bad things ahead if this keeps up. Bad things.
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And then, if Russia attacks

Why would Russia attack?

Didn't Putin say he wanted peace?

Guess he was lying to all of us.



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We have a huge problem on our hands.

NATO countries are now saying they'll bypass the U.S. and send their troops into Ukraine.

And then, if Russia attacks, they might invoke Article 5, which would basically start World War 3 by dragging in all of NATO and the U.S.

Bad things ahead if this keeps up. Bad things.

No.  The best thing that the U.S. could do right now is to pull us out of NATO.  I can foresee Trump doing that.  Time to consult the Secy of Defense Hegseth and Secy of State Rubio and joint chiefs of staff.  I have a feeling Trump may have already done so.


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What "hostilities"? Western countries aren't planning on attacking anybody.

Wait ... are you saying Putin is going to attack and invade again? So you don't think he really wants he peace?
????

HUh?  There are already Russian Troops in Ukraine.  Now add EU/NATO (and thank God, hopefully No US)   Peace Keepers there to mediate?  Nothing could go wrong there huh? :thud:
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Why would Russia attack?

Didn't Putin say he wanted peace?

Guess he was lying to all of us.

You may have missed it. If a NATO country has boots on the ground in Ukraine, there is the possibility, or probability, that NATO troops and Russian troops will be shooting at one another.
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You may have missed it. If a NATO country has boots on the ground in Ukraine, there is the possibility, or probability, that NATO troops and Russian troops will be shooting at one another.

Thanks...  you said better than I did.
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If a NATO country has boots on the ground in Ukraine, there is the possibility, or probability, that NATO troops and Russian troops will be shooting at one another.

Again, how would the conflict start?

The Western troops are there to keep the peace, so they won't be shooting at Russians.

So, then you're predicting Russia will break the peace they claim to want, and start shooting at Western troops?

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Again, how would the conflict start?

The Western troops are there to keep the peace, so they won't be shooting at Russians.

So, then you're predicting Russia will break the peace they claim to want, and start shooting at Western troops?

You aren't very old are you. Do conflicts like Korea, Bosnia, and ME among others ring a bell? 
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Why would Russia attack?

Didn't Putin say he wanted peace?

Guess he was lying to all of us.

??? Didn't Ukraine say they wanted peace?  Didn't Z state that he was coming to sign mineral rights documents?

Gee, I guess he's been lying to us.

The Russo-Ukraine wars and conflicts have been going on for decades.  Joe, Z and others made a bundle off of this war.  Z was given billions and billions of dollars not only from the U.S. but other countries.

Trump was absolutely 100% right in showing Z the door.  He realized Z truly didn't want peace, but more $$.

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Again, how would the conflict start?



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Again, how would the conflict start?

The Western troops are there to keep the peace, so they won't be shooting at Russians.

So, then you're predicting Russia will break the peace they claim to want, and start shooting at Western troops?

Um .... the conflict has already started.  What Trump wanted to accomplish was some sort of remedy towards peace.  Z wanted more money.  The longer the conflict lasts the more money he can pocket. 

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With a bang. (That’s the best I’ve got.)
With all the drones around, with a bang---and 'deniability'.

Would the Russians invent an incident??

Would Ukraine??

It seems no one is immune to that (Tonkin Gulf).
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Um .... the conflict has already started.  What Trump wanted to accomplish was some sort of remedy towards peace.  Z wanted more money.  The longer the conflict lasts the more money he can pocket.

Becoming painstakingly evident that Z realizes that continuance of hostilities is more profitable than talking peace.
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I pray Trump stands true to his word not to involve US troops...
What he just might do with the current EU attitude is he could significantly reduce American troops in Europe.  Let's see if the EU continues to treat us poorly then as it represents, besides a reduced military presence, would also be an enormous economic loss to those nations and is the first step toward the US leaving NATO.
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Cut/pasted real time Grok (Twitter) summary of the past few hours in Europe.

UK Announces Support for Ukraine with Missiles and Military Presence
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European leaders convened in London for a summit aimed at supporting Ukraine amidst its ongoing conflict. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced significant military and financial commitments, including a £1.6 billion deal for 5,000 air defense missiles and the readiness to deploy UK troops and aircraft to defend a peace deal in Ukraine. The summit emphasized continued military aid and economic pressure on Russia, with a focus on ensuring Ukraine's sovereignty and security.
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With all the drones around, with a bang---and 'deniability'.

Would the Russians invent an incident??

Would Ukraine??

It seems no one is immune to that (Tonkin Gulf).

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Cut/pasted real time Grok (Twitter) summary of the past few hours in Europe.

UK Announces Support for Ukraine with Missiles and Military Presence
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European leaders convened in London for a summit aimed at supporting Ukraine amidst its ongoing conflict. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced significant military and financial commitments, including a £1.6 billion deal for 5,000 air defense missiles and the readiness to deploy UK troops and aircraft to defend a peace deal in Ukraine. The summit emphasized continued military aid and economic pressure on Russia, with a focus on ensuring Ukraine's sovereignty and security.
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Just remember that the deal from the UK was a LOAN, not a grant, so the UK essentially wants a payback, just like Trump was proposing.
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Just remember that the deal from the UK was a LOAN, not a grant, so the UK essentially wants a payback, just like Trump was proposing.

I know...  Z was playing us like a MLB player does for the best free agent deal.  There is no problem with that, except the  difference is that Z supposedly had a hand shake agreement in hand with us, and then pulled the rug from underneath us.

Hope the UK understands that  he could do the same to them. 

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