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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #250 on: February 25, 2025, 05:44:59 pm »
Poll King, a daily polling service asked the following question today:

If the 2024 presidential election were re-run today, would the result be the same?

Now, if the sentiment of the country was so damn positive right now, would they really ask this question? 

Trump has nothing to lose in terms of elections, but incumbent Republicans in Congress have everything to lose, and they will lose big with this idiotic approach being leveled against federal employees.

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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #251 on: February 25, 2025, 05:50:54 pm »
Musk has folks working for him bailing out after just 4 weeks.  What does that spell?

No sane person wants to be around a sinking ship, or one captained by a lunatic.  Musk is out of his element.  He is a genius engineer and businessman, but he is like a fish out of water on all this.  Use him properly or watch him ruin everything you all want.

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Are you even watching the DOGE Twitter account?   Full transparency, very systematic, very methodical.  Very much like and how a corporation would conduct a reorganization.  I understand you might be a little upset having skin in the game, and with and like all corporate reorganizations, there will be some mistakes made, but the team will adjust nimbly on the fly.

As much as you slam Musk, this is the guy behind Nueral-link, Space Link, Tesla, Sapce-X, Pay Pal, etc.  He's the biggest visonary in our lifetime.  Rather than going bat shit ballistic after a few weeks, give the guy a chance.  His USAID discoveries alone should give everyone an idea, that business as usual was going to sink us into bankruptcy. And that our government for decades has been criminally corrupt and inept.

I am thankful and grateful that Musk has shown the patriotism to put his other businesses generally "on hold" until helping right the financial  direction of the country. 
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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #252 on: February 25, 2025, 05:52:02 pm »
Poll King, a daily polling service asked the following question today:

If the 2024 presidential election were re-run today, would the result be the same?

Now, if the sentiment of the country was so damn positive right now, would they really ask this question? 

Trump has nothing to lose in terms of elections, but incumbent Republicans in Congress have everything to lose, and they will lose big with this idiotic approach being leveled against federal employees.

YES! They would! And they also know who, when, and where to call in order to get the exact result they have been pid to produce!
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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #253 on: February 25, 2025, 05:52:43 pm »
Poll King, a daily polling service asked the following question today:

If the 2024 presidential election were re-run today, would the result be the same?

Now, if the sentiment of the country was so damn positive right now, would they really ask this question? 

Trump has nothing to lose in terms of elections, but incumbent Republicans in Congress have everything to lose, and they will lose big with this idiotic approach being leveled against federal employees.

I'm not much for polls, but perhaps the more appropriate poll would be to ask whether or not voters approve of the job that Congress is doing.

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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #254 on: February 25, 2025, 05:57:52 pm »
I'm not much for polls, but perhaps the more appropriate poll would be to ask whether or not voters approve of the job that Congress is doing.

Me either, but my anecdotal circle of who I know are thrilled, and wish Trump/Musk would accelerate the process.
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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #255 on: February 25, 2025, 06:00:28 pm »
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Who exactly did Musk terminate?  As far as future Agency and departmental cuts...   Fedzilla?  Gut it...  gut it hard

Well, he threatens daily to terminate federal employees.  DAILY!!!  And thousands have in fact been terminated to date. 

And factually, many of the folks being terminated are highly intelligent, hard to find resources that if we get in trouble, like another pandemic, they will not be available to be deployed to help save lives.  Yeah, save lives.  And the people that are protected are the low level intelligence folks, whose managers did what was necessary to protect their do nothing employees.

And yes, there is a sh*t ton of that, folks savvy about protecting resources that do little.  That is why a proper analysis is necessary, and this shoot from the hip nonsense will end badly.

Do you want a Dem as POTUS in two years?  I don't.  The edge for Republicans in Congress is a gnat's eyelash.  Trump/Musk antics are scaring the sh*t out of their own coalition.  How many defectors does it take to put a vote that results in impeachment in the not to distant future?  Really, they can declare Trump is a felon and jettison him in the blink of an eye.  When they decide to bail, should they elect that course, he will be gone.  And they might rationalize better Vance now then Jeffries in Jan, 2027.

This is foolish.  And as much as I know the federal government could be reduced by 40 or 50%+, this is NOT the way to do it so that it does not get reconstituted with the next Democommie.  Perhaps you did not pay attention when Biden undid almost everything Trump did in is 1st term.

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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #256 on: February 25, 2025, 06:04:00 pm »
And then there are the forest folks being terminated.  You know, those folks that fight fires.  Just wait for the next time there is one or more major fires that break out and fewer resources to fight the fires.  You don't think he is being set up with the elimination of those folks?  Hmmm!

Putin has escape tunnels when they come for him, to hang him on a meat hook.  Trump will just end up getting impeached, and removed this time.  Does not have to happen that way.

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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #257 on: February 25, 2025, 06:13:53 pm »
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Are you even watching the DOGE Twitter account?   Full transparency, very systematic, very methodical.  Very much like and how a corporation would conduct a reorganization.  I understand you might be a little upset having skin in the game, and with and like all corporate reorganizations, there will be some mistakes made, but the team will adjust nimbly on the fly.

As much as you slam Musk, this is the guy behind Nueral-link, Space Link, Tesla, Sapce-X, Pay Pal, etc.  He's the biggest visonary in our lifetime.  Rather than going bat shit ballistic after a few weeks, give the guy a chance.  His USAID discoveries alone should give everyone an idea, that business as usual was going to sink us into bankruptcy. And that our government for decades has been criminally corrupt and inept.

I am thankful and grateful that Musk has shown the patriotism to put his other businesses generally "on hold" until helping right the financial  direction of the country.
Actually, I am not upset because I have skin in the game.  Mine is protected such that no harm will come to her. 

And using th word nimble in reference to the federal government, that is indeed laughable. 

I know he is one of the most brilliant men in the world, and the richest with much success, but he has limited experience down sizing organizations, and you cannot admit the truth about it.  Going into one company that you own outright does not make one an expert about how to streamline operations.

Politics was NOT something he had to consider with Twitter.  It was his company, to do as he liked.  But stepping into government, it is a very different arena,, with stakeholders Musk is not accustomed to answering to,not at all.  Mark my words, when the chickensh*t Republicans in Congress summon the courage to face Trump, they will either bow before him and acquiesce or they will say, end this nonsense, or we will.

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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #258 on: February 25, 2025, 08:20:58 pm »
I guess we should have elected Haley or Harris.

Don't look at me.. I didn't vote for any of em.  :whistle:

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« Reply #259 on: February 26, 2025, 10:13:11 am »
Well, he threatens daily to terminate federal employees.  DAILY!!!  And thousands have in fact been terminated to date. 

And factually, many of the folks being terminated are highly intelligent, hard to find resources that if we get in trouble, like another pandemic, they will not be available to be deployed to help save lives.  Yeah, save lives.

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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #260 on: February 26, 2025, 10:15:06 am »
Don't look at me.. I didn't vote for any of em.  :whistle:

No one expected you to stop fiddling long enough.  Nice to know you didn't disappoint.

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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #261 on: February 26, 2025, 10:21:43 am »
No one expected you to stop fiddling long enough.  Nice to know you didn't disappoint.

I've been happy with Trump for about a year now...   NOW, how about Trump getting  Bondi to release that Epstein list!!!!!!!!

The longer he/she waits, hurts the cause.
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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #262 on: February 26, 2025, 12:01:17 pm »
I can see we need a poll of our own to see what the pulse of TBR is.
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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #263 on: February 26, 2025, 12:16:00 pm »
I can see we need a poll of our own to see what the pulse of TBR is.

Posted the poll here:

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,554483.new.html#new
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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #264 on: February 27, 2025, 04:12:30 pm »
  Contractors cost roughly twice what an employee cost.
That may a fabrication.  Sure they cost more during the short term, but no necessarily over the longer turn on a fluid organization, ie - one whose demand for services is not constant but fluctuates.

Too many federal agencies do not see themselves as being nimble, ie - perhaps needing less people as technology improves, or value creation lelsewhere rather than what they happen to be working on over the years.

It is obvious that that is the problem being unearthed by DOGE - no anxiety whatsover to within the government to better their processes; instead, it is chug along with what they have been doing on 'addon' for any additional work.

Do you incorporate within that analysis the benefits a federal employee gets, as well as the fact that a contractor can get laid off much easier than a contractor?

Contractors are performance-based, whereas federal employees are much less likely to be.  How to prove?

How many federal employees over the years have been shoved out the door?  Tiny compare to contractors.

We need both federal employees and contractors cut, and  there is a lot more meat on the bone to cut contractor count more right now, as they should ONLY be used to provide temporary resources and/or resources not available within the federal government.

I have worked for the federal government several years in an agency, and have worked in private industry both as an employee and as a contractor.
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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #265 on: February 27, 2025, 05:17:23 pm »
That is a fabrication.

Do you incorporate within that analysis the benefits a federal employee gets, as well as the fact that a contractor can get laid off much easier than a contractor?

Contractors are performance-based, whereas federal employees are much less likely to be.  How to prove?

How many federal employees over the years have been shoved out the door?  Tiny compare to contractors.

We need both federal employees and contractors cut, and  there is a lot more meat on the bone to cut contractors more right now, as they should ONLY be used to provide temporary resources and/or resources not available within the federal government.

@jafo2010  is lying.  I managed 1000's of employees and contractors for tht 30 year period.  I remember the exact stinking number for planning purposes.

.672 cost of contractor to employee cost ratio. Anyone thinking a contractor is paid the same as a regular employee considering labor buden of benefits, accured pensions, medical, life insurance, workman's comp.....  has no idea of the business world.

For the contractor direct cost...  it was 1.15 for the exact same parameters. 
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« Reply #266 on: February 27, 2025, 05:28:50 pm »
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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #267 on: February 27, 2025, 05:43:57 pm »
I can see we need a poll of our own to see what the pulse of TBR is.

Awww...baloney!   

It's becoming a sick joke!

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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #268 on: February 27, 2025, 05:50:53 pm »
Awww...baloney!   

It's becoming a sick joke!

We have less than 45 active posters among the registered membership.


I'm not polling everyone, just those who respond.
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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #269 on: February 28, 2025, 10:48:15 am »
I can see we need a poll of our own to see what the pulse of TBR is.

Are you sure a poll is necessary @MeganC ?   When the first cabinet meeting (all on video) visits and press conferences with Macron and Starmer ---- and a visit, possible trade deal with Zelensky--- all in the same week go unnoticed;  I think there's prescious little interest in the President and his administration.  This speaks louder than any poll.







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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #270 on: February 28, 2025, 10:49:13 am »
Are you sure a poll is necessary @MeganC ?   I think there's precious little interest in the President and his administration when the first cabinet meeting (all on film), visits and press conferences with Macron and Starmer ---- and a visit, possible trade deal with Zelensky--- all in the same week go unnoticed.

You sure have been quiet on this Bondi situation.....   Care to share your thoughts?
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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #271 on: February 28, 2025, 10:54:50 am »
You sure have been quiet on this Bondi situation.....   Care to share your thoughts?

You've proved my point.  Here's your poll result   Anybody and anything but Trump garners attention.


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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #272 on: February 28, 2025, 10:55:49 am »
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Re: I Was Wrong About Trump
« Reply #273 on: February 28, 2025, 10:56:44 am »
You've proved my point.

That you are the "Queen of Deflection"?. Bingo...

All and everything Trump desires for success (and I am rooting for him) hinges on being able to administer the rule of law to root out the swamp.  And right now, they are thumbing their nose and her, and laughing at her while at it.
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« Reply #274 on: February 28, 2025, 11:04:17 am »
That you are the "Queen of Deflection"?. Bingo...

Says the "Jester of Change the Subject".

Bondi and Patel will take care of the Epstein papers. I'm more interested in watching the world bend toward peace and President Trump.