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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #450 on: January 11, 2025, 03:54:42 pm »
Amazing.  The moment that Brentwood is threatened, a DC-10 loaded with flame retardant magically appears.  I hope OJ's house is OK.
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« Reply #451 on: January 11, 2025, 04:04:53 pm »
The words of a person deserving of blame:


https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1878161847238455404
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #452 on: January 11, 2025, 04:06:01 pm »
Don't most states have fire marshals? Why is this not the purview of a state agency?

The problem is this is their Fire Marshal.
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« Reply #453 on: January 11, 2025, 04:06:50 pm »
The problem is this is their Fire Marshal.
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« Reply #454 on: January 11, 2025, 04:08:07 pm »
The problem is this is their Fire Marshal.


Well played, sir.  Well played.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #455 on: January 11, 2025, 04:09:24 pm »
OJ’ s home is now in Hell and made of fire.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #456 on: January 11, 2025, 04:12:18 pm »
Well you knew it was coming

Khloe Kardashian rips LA mayor Karen Bass amid wildfire disaster: ‘You are a joke’


When you've lost the Kardashians, your career is over

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #457 on: January 11, 2025, 04:20:43 pm »
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BREAKING: @AzusaPD has arrested an arson suspect they say started a fire last night at Pioneer Park. Police say Jose Carranza-Escobar, a transient, admitted to starting the fire and was promptly arrested. @foxla
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"Transient."
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #458 on: January 11, 2025, 04:30:13 pm »
Well, Florida, now Texas ... notice that the states that have their schlitz together are the ones who continually pitch in and help.  How about the rest of the governors???

Texas governor sending firefighters, resources to California to help with wildfires

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Saturday announced he would be sending firefighters and firefighting resources to California to assist with the ongoing wildfires.

Along with more than 135 firefighters, it will include emergency management and medical personnel, more than 45 fire engines, ambulances, command vehicles, and equipment.

“Our hearts grieve with the entire Los Angeles community as they continue to respond to these destructive wildfires,” Abbott said.

He continued, “Texans know all too well the devastation wildfires can cause to our communities, and our country is stronger when we come together in times of crisis. I directed the Texas Division of Emergency Management to deploy firefighters, fire engines, and firefighting equipment to help our fellow Americans battle these wildfires. I thank all the brave firefighters and first responders who are answering the call to help Californians in need as these fires continue to burn. Cecilia and I pray for the victims who lost their lives and their families, the heroic men and women of CAL FIRE, the Los Angeles Fire Department, and the entire state of California during this difficult time.”...............

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #459 on: January 11, 2025, 04:30:27 pm »
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Newsom doubles California National Guard deployment to LA amid wildfires

California Governor Gavin Newsom announced on Saturday that he has activated 1,680 National Guard service members to battle the ongoing wildfires.

The new move "doubles the CalGuard boots on the ground," according to the governor's office.

“We are continuing to rush in resources to rapidly respond to the firestorm in Los Angeles fueled by hurricane-force winds," Newsom said in a statement. "The men and women of the California National Guard are working day and night to help Los Angeles residents during their greatest time of need. We are grateful for their continued bravery and commitment to be of service to others.”
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #460 on: January 11, 2025, 04:31:21 pm »
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BREAKING: @AzusaPD has arrested an arson suspect they say started a fire last night at Pioneer Park. Police say Jose Carranza-Escobar, a transient, admitted to starting the fire and was promptly arrested. @foxla
2:44 PM · Jan 11, 2025


"Transient."

"Transient" == "Gets away scot-free."
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #461 on: January 11, 2025, 04:32:50 pm »
Newsom responds to those angry over wildfire response by pointing finger at local leaders, Trump
'I’ll be candid with you, I wasn’t getting straight answers,' Newsom said about LA leaders during a recent podcast appearance
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Published January 11, 2025 2:30pm EST | Updated January 11, 2025 2:00pm EST

Gov. Gavin Newsom, D-Calif., appeared to deflect when he was confronted about Los Angeles residents being angry over his wildfire response, saying local leaders and people on his own team weren’t giving him a clear picture of the devastation.

In an interview with liberal podcast, "Pod Save America," released on Saturday, the governor said he has struggled to get "straight answers" about went wrong with the wildfire response from lower-level leaders, suggesting that it has hampered his response.

"So, I’m the governor of California and wanna know the answer. I’ve got that question, I can’t tell you, by how many people, ‘What happened?’ – on my own team, ‘What happened?’… I’ll be candid with you, I wasn’t getting straight answers," Newsom told co-host Jon Favreau, referencing his conversations with local leaders.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #462 on: January 11, 2025, 04:33:02 pm »
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California Governor Gavin Newsom seems to be all about avoiding blame—except when it comes to pointing fingers at others. In a Friday appearance on the Pod Save America podcast, Newsom declared he’s “not interested in who’s to blame” for the devastating wildfires engulfing 29,000 acres, including some of Los Angeles’ wealthiest neighborhoods. But his actions tell a different story.




Oh, but your constituents are concerned with who is to blame. I hope they run your lying butt out of town on a rail…

Fingers NEED to be pointed. He, Bass and the fire chief need to be held accountable for these crimes.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #463 on: January 11, 2025, 04:38:09 pm »
For someone who doesn't want to "point fingers," he sure does like pointing a finger at Donald Trump.
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« Reply #464 on: January 11, 2025, 04:42:20 pm »
For someone who doesn't want to "point fingers," he sure does like pointing a finger at Donald Trump.

Regardless of his finger pointing I'd say his political career has taken a big hit.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #466 on: January 11, 2025, 04:56:26 pm »
Regardless of his finger pointing I'd say his political career has taken a big hit.

If he wants to be the President, he won't win any Primaries outside of Cali.  And we know that's his goal.
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« Reply #467 on: January 11, 2025, 05:15:07 pm »
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Newsom doubles California National Guard deployment to LA amid wildfires

California Governor Gavin Newsom announced on Saturday that he has activated 1,680 National Guard service members to battle the ongoing wildfires.

The new move "doubles the CalGuard boots on the ground," according to the governor's office.

“We are continuing to rush in resources to rapidly respond to the firestorm in Los Angeles fueled by hurricane-force winds," Newsom said in a statement. "The men and women of the California National Guard are working day and night to help Los Angeles residents during their greatest time of need. We are grateful for their continued bravery and commitment to be of service to others.”
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #469 on: January 11, 2025, 05:36:19 pm »
Why is California’s ‘More Water Now’ Ballot Initiative Already Under Attack?

The Legislature, Governor and unelected state water board officials are not doing what is best for California’s people

Katy Grimes  |  December 6, 2021  |  8:06 am


California has a long history of squandering its precious water.

In 2014, California voters approved $7.12 billion in bonds for state water supply infrastructure projects. Of that, $2.7 billion was designated for water storage projects. But nearly 8 years later, there are no new dams or reservoirs, or other water storage projects to collect and store California’s winter runoff. And California is in yet another drought.

The state officials in charge bow to environmentalists by allowing half of the state’s water to flow out to the ocean, leaving farmers and local governments to fight for the other 50%. The state uses about 47.5 percent of its developed water supply for the environment, including wild river flows, managed wetlands and wildlife preserves, habitat and water quality control for fish, and required Delta outflows, according to the Department of Water Resources. Water is diverted in times of drought and times of plenty to the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta, leaving much less for irrigation or for Californians to drink.

Approximately 10% of the remaining water is used by cities, and 40% is used by agriculture. Yet it is always urban use and agriculture forced to conserve.

This is why the Water Infrastructure Funding Act of 2022 was written and has begun to qualify as a state ballot proposition. “More Water Now,” as it is known, will be a nonpartisan initiative constitutional amendment.

When approved by voters, this initiative will accomplish the following objectives:

• Allocate two percent of the state’s general fund to use for projects that increase California’s annual supply of water to farms and cities.

• Permit up to half of the 2% allocation to pay principal and interest on construction bonds.

• Give priority to underfunded projects already approved by voters in Prop. 1 (2014).  .  .  .

https://californiaglobe.com/articles/why-is-californias-more-water-now-ballot-initiative-already-under-attack/




Two months ago, California voters passed this 'More Water Now' initiative, which essentially provides new funding for the same things they funded eight years ago but never built.
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« Reply #470 on: January 11, 2025, 05:37:29 pm »
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« Reply #471 on: January 11, 2025, 05:43:22 pm »
Newsom responds to those angry over wildfire response by pointing finger at local leaders, Trump
'I’ll be candid with you, I wasn’t getting straight answers,' Newsom said about LA leaders during a recent podcast appearance
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Published January 11, 2025 2:30pm EST | Updated January 11, 2025 2:00pm EST

Gov. Gavin Newsom, D-Calif., appeared to deflect when he was confronted about Los Angeles residents being angry over his wildfire response, saying local leaders and people on his own team weren’t giving him a clear picture of the devastation.

In an interview with liberal podcast, "Pod Save America," released on Saturday, the governor said he has struggled to get "straight answers" about went wrong with the wildfire response from lower-level leaders, suggesting that it has hampered his response.

"So, I’m the governor of California and wanna know the answer. I’ve got that question, I can’t tell you, by how many people, ‘What happened?’ – on my own team, ‘What happened?’… I’ll be candid with you, I wasn’t getting straight answers," Newsom told co-host Jon Favreau, referencing his conversations with local leaders.

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« Reply #472 on: January 11, 2025, 05:57:20 pm »
Governor Greaseball may not be interested in pointing fingers but there sure are a lot of Californians and others who don’t share his attitude, and he is the target of their attention. I just hope everyone remembers that he didn’t manage this level of incompetence and destruction on his own.

I am sure all those ‘wealthy’ people targeted for more taxes by Mad Max Waters will be supporting her and other democrats.

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« Reply #474 on: January 11, 2025, 06:09:17 pm »
I live some 400 miles from The Land of LA, but even I can see the potential benefits of the heads of idiot department chiefs, bureaucrats, @#$tty council critters, and a certain mayor rolling down The Grapevine toward Bakersfield ... and don't much care if they have a "D" or "R" after their name so long as they had contributed to this debacle..
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« Reply #479 on: January 11, 2025, 08:21:23 pm »
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Former child star Rory Sykes, who was blind and had cerebral palsy, passed away in the LA fires, told his mom to leave him so she could save herself.

Horrific.

"Horrific" doesn't even begin to describe it.
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« Reply #481 on: January 11, 2025, 08:27:18 pm »
"Horrific" doesn't even begin to describe it.

How does a mother leave her son to die like that?  I would have pulled him onto a blanket or curtain and dragged him out of the house, or at least made that effort.  My God.
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« Reply #483 on: January 11, 2025, 08:45:05 pm »
How does a mother leave her son to die like that?  I would have pulled him onto a blanket or curtain and dragged him out of the house, or at least made that effort.  My God.

Hard not to judge, but as a Mom, I think an adrenaline rush would have hit me and I would have tried to pull him out -- but on the flip side, who knows how long she spent trying to reach 9-1-1, and perhaps the fire had already reached the house?? 

With his health issues, my first question was didn't he have a wheelchair? But perhaps she couldn't even lift him onto the wheelchair. 

My guess is by the time she tried to do what she could it was too late and he told her to save herself.  So she did.  This is something that she will always have to live with. She lost her son and couldn't save him.  Very heartbreaking.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #487 on: January 12, 2025, 06:46:04 am »

 Internal Docs Show 2 of LA Fire Dept's Top 3 Goals Were DEI, While Disaster Recovery Ranked Dead Last
Story by Ben Zeisloft • 16h

As California firefighters struggle to control multiple wildfires destroying thousands of homes and forcing more than 100,000 to flee, more information is coming to light about the priorities of Los Angeles Fire Department.

In particular, the city's department seems to have emphasized the skin color and sexual preferences of firefighters rather than whether those firefighters were skilled at, you know, putting out fires.
 
Manhattan Institute senior fellow Christopher Rufo revealed on Thursday that the LAFD authorities, in the department's "Strategic Plan 2023-2026," have seven stated goals for the organization.

The first is delivering “exceptional public safety and emergency services.” The second and third are promoting a “progressive work environment” and committing to "an organizational culture that embraces diversity, equity, and inclusion.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-safety-and-emergencies/fire-and-rescue/internal-docs-show-2-of-la-fire-dept-s-top-3-goals-were-dei-while-disaster-recovery-ranked-dead-last/ar-BB1rhTKN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=81c77541d029401ead5976c0eff072f5&ei=99
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« Reply #488 on: January 12, 2025, 06:47:27 am »
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« Reply #489 on: January 12, 2025, 06:50:58 am »

 Dem senator warns 'LA fires are preview of coming atrocities,' claims Trump bought off by 'Big Oil'
Story by Alex Nitzberg • 10h

As fires wreak havoc in California, Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., claimed in a post on X the catastrophe is "what a climate emergency looks like." He took aim at President-elect Trump, asserting the incoming president has been bought off by the oil industry.

"Trump has been bought for $1 billion by Big Oil. Just a payoff to kill the IRA and the Green New Deal. We know what will happen. More fires, more climate disasters, more death. The LA fires are preview of coming atrocities," Markey declared in a post on X.

Markey, who claims there is a "climate crisis," has also warned about the potential effects of artificial intelligence (AI).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/dem-senator-warns-la-fires-are-preview-of-coming-atrocities-claims-trump-bought-off-by-big-oil/ar-BB1riCqP?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=81c77541d029401ead5976c0eff072f5&ei=107
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« Reply #490 on: January 12, 2025, 06:53:45 am »
Of course, Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass being democrats, are pure as the driven snow when it comes  to blame for the horrid preparedness and response. *****rollingeyes*****
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« Reply #491 on: January 12, 2025, 07:24:41 am »
Climate Expert: Media Are Falsely Blaming Climate Change For Calif. Wildfires
by Anthony Watts  Jan 9, 2025 

The devastating wildfires in Los Angeles have once again become a rallying cry for those blaming climate change for natural disasters. [emphasis, links added]

Recent coverage, such as stories in Axios and by the BBC  hastily and falsely connect these wildfires to a “rare confluence of climate factors,” a narrative that has become all too familiar.


However, any such connection is unsupported by data.

As is often the case, linking individual wildfires or even a single year’s wildfires to long-term climate change oversimplifies complex natural events, failing to address the broader context.

To truly understand these fires, we must consider history, meteorology, and land management—not just the latest climate narrative.

https://climatechangedispatch.com/climate-expert-media-are-falsely-blaming-climate-change-for-calif-wildfires/
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« Reply #492 on: January 12, 2025, 07:26:02 am »
Blaming climate change when they should be blaming Trump?  Naughty, naughty. :nono:
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« Reply #493 on: January 12, 2025, 07:41:54 am »
The California fires are not climate
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January 9th, 2025
 
To Senator Sanders:

Hi there Colonel Sanders.

Do you like facts?

I hope you do, because you’re about to be sacked with some.

Here we go. . . First, climate change does not cause forest fires. That isn’t how this works. Fires require an ignition source and fuel.

Ignition sources may be natural (e.g., lightning) or it can be man-made (e.g., by accident from improperly disposed cigarette butts, improperly discarded pellet / wood stove ash, an out-of-control campfire or fallen power lines, or perhaps even intentionally by arson). But, climate change is not one of them.

The origin of the Pacific Palisades fire hasn’t been determined. But, what is known is that it is being fueled by dried out vegetation and is being stoked by Santa Ana Winds (SAWs) with hurricane-force wind gusts. These winds are a byproduct of a tight horizontal pressure gradient between a tropospheric ridge situated over the Great Basin and a cut-off low spinning over Baja California. Southwesterly downslope flow accelerated by a tight gradient can easily dry out vegetation, especially small-diameter fuels like twigs and leaves, priming a forest for a fire should one be ignited.

While the warming atmosphere — and, for sake of argument, we will assume that it is entirely due to mankind’s greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions — might make weather conditions more conducive for forest fires in Southern California, there is yet to be an established “consensus” on exactly how fires will change in the region with increased global warming. The reason for this is because air temperature during the event and precipitation deficits over the preceding weeks and/or months aren’t the only — or necessarily even the most important — factors in fire burn area (e.g., Keeley et al., 2021).

https://www.cfact.org/2025/01/09/the-california-fires-are-not-climate/
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #494 on: January 12, 2025, 07:50:47 am »
IRA?? Irish Republican Army? Individual Retirement Account?

How about WTF???

Neither Trump nor "Big Oil" had squat to do with the fires.

Sheesh!

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« Reply #495 on: January 12, 2025, 07:55:09 am »
Dems always throw the "Climate Card".  No one is buying it anymore.
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« Reply #496 on: January 12, 2025, 08:06:25 am »
On a side note, I notice all the emergency vehicles involved in this inferno are fossil-fuel-powered ... NO electrics to be seen

Bulldozers, fire trucks, ambulances, helicopters ... whenever there's a crisis, fossil fuels come to the rescue!!

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« Reply #497 on: January 12, 2025, 08:11:30 am »
On a side note, I notice all the emergency vehicles involved in this inferno are fossil-fuel-powered ... NO electrics to be seen
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« Reply #498 on: January 12, 2025, 08:38:30 am »
Cannot muster even an ounce of virtuous "thoughts and prayers" for the Los Angeles region.

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« Reply #499 on: January 12, 2025, 09:07:05 am »
L.A. Fires Death Toll Rises as Heavy Winds Forecast to Return

The death toll from the wildfires tearing through Los Angeles stood at 16 on Sunday morning as crews battled to cut off the spreading blazes. The emergency response continues as potentially strong Santa Ana winds up to 45 mph are forecast to return and push flames toward some of the city’s most famous landmarks.

https://www.breitbart.com/weather/2025/01/12/l-a-fires-death-toll-rises-as-heavy-winds-forecast-to-return/
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