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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #479 on: January 11, 2025, 08:21:23 pm »
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Former child star Rory Sykes, who was blind and had cerebral palsy, passed away in the LA fires, told his mom to leave him so she could save herself.

Horrific.

"Horrific" doesn't even begin to describe it.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #481 on: January 11, 2025, 08:27:18 pm »
"Horrific" doesn't even begin to describe it.

How does a mother leave her son to die like that?  I would have pulled him onto a blanket or curtain and dragged him out of the house, or at least made that effort.  My God.
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« Reply #483 on: January 11, 2025, 08:45:05 pm »
How does a mother leave her son to die like that?  I would have pulled him onto a blanket or curtain and dragged him out of the house, or at least made that effort.  My God.

Hard not to judge, but as a Mom, I think an adrenaline rush would have hit me and I would have tried to pull him out -- but on the flip side, who knows how long she spent trying to reach 9-1-1, and perhaps the fire had already reached the house?? 

With his health issues, my first question was didn't he have a wheelchair? But perhaps she couldn't even lift him onto the wheelchair. 

My guess is by the time she tried to do what she could it was too late and he told her to save herself.  So she did.  This is something that she will always have to live with. She lost her son and couldn't save him.  Very heartbreaking.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #487 on: January 12, 2025, 06:46:04 am »

 Internal Docs Show 2 of LA Fire Dept's Top 3 Goals Were DEI, While Disaster Recovery Ranked Dead Last
Story by Ben Zeisloft • 16h

As California firefighters struggle to control multiple wildfires destroying thousands of homes and forcing more than 100,000 to flee, more information is coming to light about the priorities of Los Angeles Fire Department.

In particular, the city's department seems to have emphasized the skin color and sexual preferences of firefighters rather than whether those firefighters were skilled at, you know, putting out fires.
 
Manhattan Institute senior fellow Christopher Rufo revealed on Thursday that the LAFD authorities, in the department's "Strategic Plan 2023-2026," have seven stated goals for the organization.

The first is delivering “exceptional public safety and emergency services.” The second and third are promoting a “progressive work environment” and committing to "an organizational culture that embraces diversity, equity, and inclusion.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-safety-and-emergencies/fire-and-rescue/internal-docs-show-2-of-la-fire-dept-s-top-3-goals-were-dei-while-disaster-recovery-ranked-dead-last/ar-BB1rhTKN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=81c77541d029401ead5976c0eff072f5&ei=99
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #488 on: January 12, 2025, 06:47:27 am »
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #489 on: January 12, 2025, 06:50:58 am »

 Dem senator warns 'LA fires are preview of coming atrocities,' claims Trump bought off by 'Big Oil'
Story by Alex Nitzberg • 10h

As fires wreak havoc in California, Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., claimed in a post on X the catastrophe is "what a climate emergency looks like." He took aim at President-elect Trump, asserting the incoming president has been bought off by the oil industry.

"Trump has been bought for $1 billion by Big Oil. Just a payoff to kill the IRA and the Green New Deal. We know what will happen. More fires, more climate disasters, more death. The LA fires are preview of coming atrocities," Markey declared in a post on X.

Markey, who claims there is a "climate crisis," has also warned about the potential effects of artificial intelligence (AI).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/dem-senator-warns-la-fires-are-preview-of-coming-atrocities-claims-trump-bought-off-by-big-oil/ar-BB1riCqP?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=81c77541d029401ead5976c0eff072f5&ei=107
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #490 on: January 12, 2025, 06:53:45 am »
Of course, Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass being democrats, are pure as the driven snow when it comes  to blame for the horrid preparedness and response. *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #491 on: January 12, 2025, 07:24:41 am »
Climate Expert: Media Are Falsely Blaming Climate Change For Calif. Wildfires
by Anthony Watts  Jan 9, 2025 

The devastating wildfires in Los Angeles have once again become a rallying cry for those blaming climate change for natural disasters. [emphasis, links added]

Recent coverage, such as stories in Axios and by the BBC  hastily and falsely connect these wildfires to a “rare confluence of climate factors,” a narrative that has become all too familiar.


However, any such connection is unsupported by data.

As is often the case, linking individual wildfires or even a single year’s wildfires to long-term climate change oversimplifies complex natural events, failing to address the broader context.

To truly understand these fires, we must consider history, meteorology, and land management—not just the latest climate narrative.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #492 on: January 12, 2025, 07:26:02 am »
Blaming climate change when they should be blaming Trump?  Naughty, naughty. :nono:
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #493 on: January 12, 2025, 07:41:54 am »
The California fires are not climate
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To Senator Sanders:

Hi there Colonel Sanders.

Do you like facts?

I hope you do, because you’re about to be sacked with some.

Here we go. . . First, climate change does not cause forest fires. That isn’t how this works. Fires require an ignition source and fuel.

Ignition sources may be natural (e.g., lightning) or it can be man-made (e.g., by accident from improperly disposed cigarette butts, improperly discarded pellet / wood stove ash, an out-of-control campfire or fallen power lines, or perhaps even intentionally by arson). But, climate change is not one of them.

The origin of the Pacific Palisades fire hasn’t been determined. But, what is known is that it is being fueled by dried out vegetation and is being stoked by Santa Ana Winds (SAWs) with hurricane-force wind gusts. These winds are a byproduct of a tight horizontal pressure gradient between a tropospheric ridge situated over the Great Basin and a cut-off low spinning over Baja California. Southwesterly downslope flow accelerated by a tight gradient can easily dry out vegetation, especially small-diameter fuels like twigs and leaves, priming a forest for a fire should one be ignited.

While the warming atmosphere — and, for sake of argument, we will assume that it is entirely due to mankind’s greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions — might make weather conditions more conducive for forest fires in Southern California, there is yet to be an established “consensus” on exactly how fires will change in the region with increased global warming. The reason for this is because air temperature during the event and precipitation deficits over the preceding weeks and/or months aren’t the only — or necessarily even the most important — factors in fire burn area (e.g., Keeley et al., 2021).

https://www.cfact.org/2025/01/09/the-california-fires-are-not-climate/
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #494 on: January 12, 2025, 07:50:47 am »
IRA?? Irish Republican Army? Individual Retirement Account?

How about WTF???

Neither Trump nor "Big Oil" had squat to do with the fires.

Sheesh!

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« Reply #495 on: January 12, 2025, 07:55:09 am »
Dems always throw the "Climate Card".  No one is buying it anymore.
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« Reply #496 on: January 12, 2025, 08:06:25 am »
On a side note, I notice all the emergency vehicles involved in this inferno are fossil-fuel-powered ... NO electrics to be seen

Bulldozers, fire trucks, ambulances, helicopters ... whenever there's a crisis, fossil fuels come to the rescue!!

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« Reply #497 on: January 12, 2025, 08:11:30 am »
On a side note, I notice all the emergency vehicles involved in this inferno are fossil-fuel-powered ... NO electrics to be seen
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« Reply #498 on: January 12, 2025, 08:38:30 am »
Cannot muster even an ounce of virtuous "thoughts and prayers" for the Los Angeles region.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #499 on: January 12, 2025, 09:07:05 am »
L.A. Fires Death Toll Rises as Heavy Winds Forecast to Return

The death toll from the wildfires tearing through Los Angeles stood at 16 on Sunday morning as crews battled to cut off the spreading blazes. The emergency response continues as potentially strong Santa Ana winds up to 45 mph are forecast to return and push flames toward some of the city’s most famous landmarks.

https://www.breitbart.com/weather/2025/01/12/l-a-fires-death-toll-rises-as-heavy-winds-forecast-to-return/
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